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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at advocuslaw dot com. Michayla is on the phone

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Speaker 1: today for a first day follow up and she's getting

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Speaker 1: ghosted by a dude named Jason. So in a few minutes,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna call him and see if you'll tell us

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Speaker 1: why he's ghostinger and maybe get her another date. But first, Mikayla,

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Speaker 1: how long has it been since you heard from Jason.

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Speaker 2: It's been two weeks.

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Speaker 3: We had been like talking very regularly before that, so

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Speaker 3: this is not common for us to go days without like.

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Speaker 2: Talking like this.

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Speaker 1: Did you try to talk to me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean so I texted him after a date and

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Speaker 3: he sent me a one word response and then nothing.

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Speaker 2: I was like, how is your day? And he was

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Speaker 2: like good, and I was like sick.

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Speaker 3: That always feels like a middle finger, like after you

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Speaker 3: asked me a question and all you get back is good.

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Speaker 1: Well, how is the date?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 1: Was the date good?

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Speaker 2: Amazing?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, it lasted for like ever.

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Speaker 1: It lasted for. It was a long date, it was

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Speaker 1: it was We.

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Speaker 3: Did like a lot of different things, so we like

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Speaker 3: we met the mall, which I at first I was like,

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Speaker 3: this is a little weird, but it was because he'd

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Speaker 3: coordinated with the pet store to let us play with

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Speaker 3: the puppies.

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Speaker 1: That's so sweet.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they like never do that, but I guess he

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Speaker 3: like knows the owner or the manager or something and

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Speaker 3: so and I was like, oh, okay, So I felt

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Speaker 3: very special and I got to play with the puppies

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Speaker 3: and I love puppies, and so that was wonderful. And

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Speaker 3: we just like cuddled with puppies and like talked for

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Speaker 3: like the longest time, and yeah, and he is like

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Speaker 3: so cute with the puppies. And then like we went

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Speaker 3: to the cheesecake Factory, which is like one of my

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Speaker 3: egg rolls, like genuinely. Then like we were, you know,

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Speaker 3: like we'd finished eating, and he was like, I really

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Speaker 3: don't want like to say goodbye yet, like I'm not

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Speaker 3: really ready for it to end. And he's like, I

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Speaker 3: have a couple of like aaronst run O. We're at Target,

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Speaker 3: like there's a few things I need to get, Like

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Speaker 3: would you want.

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Speaker 2: To go with me? Is that weird? And I was like,

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Speaker 2: oh no, I would love to go with you. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Wait, so you hit puppies the cheesecake factory in all

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Speaker 3: day one day.

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Speaker 2: Right, I was like, this is beautiful.

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Speaker 3: I'm like you can tell a lot by beruson like

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Speaker 3: what they get when they go to Target and like

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Speaker 3: how they do the Target experience. And I was very

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Speaker 3: impressed by like what he got, Like he was getting

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Speaker 3: like method surface cleaner, so I like, obviously he likes

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Speaker 3: to keep things really clean, and like that's important, you know,

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Speaker 3: because like a lot of guys don't clean. And he

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Speaker 3: bought toilet paper, you know, Like I was like, okay,

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Speaker 3: so he feels comfortable around me, and he like he

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Speaker 3: I feel like, get really cheap, scratchy toilet paper, and

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Speaker 3: when I'm over at your house. And he got really nice,

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Speaker 3: like very soft toilet paper, and so okay, okay, he

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: But then like after Target, it kind of felt like

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Speaker 3: he was rushed. He was like, oh I really got

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Speaker 3: but then it kind of felt like he was like

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Speaker 2: Was like ready to, like I don't know, get out

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Speaker 3: Made me feel like maybe I did something wrong, like

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Speaker 2: Like I was kind of like ribbing him and.

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Speaker 3: Like teasing him a bit, and like, you know, when

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Speaker 3: it like came across like demeaning or like weird or.

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Speaker 1: Mean or well what did you say, like how did

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Speaker 1: it become demeaning?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: I was just like Sweety needs extra saft for his

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Speaker 2: And I was trying to be cutesy, and I you know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes I hit some sometimes miss the mark.

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Speaker 3: And now I'm like and then that was kind of

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Speaker 2: Check on my dog. And I was like, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: Maybe, but I don't feel like that more is like

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Speaker 3: completely good. Yeah, like you know, obviously, I know. I

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Speaker 3: we had so much funt for such a long time.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, Okay, so I said one stupid thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say a lot of stupid things. There was

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Speaker 3: the one stupid thing ruin it.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if we can figure it out for you.

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Speaker 1: We'll play a song come Back, and then call him

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Speaker 1: and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you

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Speaker 1: and maybe get you another date. Okay, Okay, thank you, Okay,

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Speaker 1: play song come back your first day follow up next.

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Speaker 1: Right in the middle of your first date follow up,

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Speaker 1: if you're just joining us, Mikayla is on the phone

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Speaker 1: and she's getting ghosted by Jason. So we're about to

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Speaker 1: ghostinger and maybe get her another date. But first, MICHAELA,

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Speaker 1: why don't you refresh our memory on your date with Jason.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we had an amazing date.

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Speaker 3: We played with puppy, We had amazing avocado egg rolls

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Speaker 3: at the FUSEEA factory, and then we went and wandered

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Speaker 3: the streets or the streets the aisles of Target, and

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Speaker 3: I mean, like it doesn't get better than that.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and the only thing you can think of

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Speaker 1: that he's not calling you back is because of what I.

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Speaker 3: Teased him about his toilet paper selection, and I said

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Speaker 3: that he needed extra soft toilet paper for his extra

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Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying this.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to lose my mind. Yeah, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: told him you had to extra cute bum bum. You

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: And then now I can't believe that I've had to

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Speaker 3: repeat it for the world. I'm like, oh God, everybody knows.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for us to call him?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. Hello, Hi, maspeak to Jason please, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is him. Hey Jason, how are you? My name

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Speaker 1: is Jewbel. I'm calling from a radio show. It's called

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Speaker 1: The Jebel Show. Hi, Jason, the show's here. I'm Nina

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Speaker 1: also on it. Fine, I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 4: Hi. What can I do for you? Guys?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever listened to the show before?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: I have not. But you know what, Actually, I have

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Speaker 4: seen your clips on TikTok so I am love actually,

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Speaker 4: but I've seen a couple of clips.

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Speaker 1: That's dope. Okay, Well, congratulations you're on the show. We

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Speaker 1: do a segment on the show called the First Day

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Speaker 1: follow Up. That's where if you go out on a

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Speaker 1: day with somebody and you end up ghosting them, that

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Speaker 1: you're ghosting? So, are you ghosting anybody?

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I sure we're listening. Going look, yeah, I am,

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Speaker 4: I am. I'm ghosting a girl who is a she's

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Speaker 4: a bit of a cleptough. So that's kind of the

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Speaker 4: big crux of it, to be honest with ye.

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Speaker 1: Okay, are you talking about MICHAELA? Yeah, I was gonna.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I am, let me, let me just kind of explain.

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Speaker 4: So we went to Target and she only had a purse,

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Speaker 4: so you know, I saw what she was carrying, and

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Speaker 4: where did she get that from? And said, oh, I

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Speaker 4: And I'm not cool with that because I mean, how

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Speaker 4: do I know that you're not gonna, you know, give

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Speaker 4: me like stolen goods for my birthday or something. You know.

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Speaker 4: She she absolutely did. She absolutely took her with her,

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Speaker 4: but it seemed because she didn't she didn't pay for it.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, no, you didn't.

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Speaker 4: So listen, that was her explanation. And I don't like

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Speaker 4: people that lie. I don't want people that shoplift. I

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Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe feel weird. And you know, I

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Speaker 2: I can guarantee you that I did pay for that. Yes,

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Speaker 2: yes I did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's MICHAELA. She's actually on the phone listening and.

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Speaker 4: Great, great, great, great. You know what, I'm actually I'm

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Speaker 4: actually glad she's on the phone because I think that

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Speaker 4: this will probably steer her away from, you know, a

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Speaker 4: little bit more embarrassed about, you know, her conduct. The

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Speaker 4: first time you meet somebody, I'm kind of surprised you

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Speaker 4: didn't make off with a puppy when we were you know,

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Speaker 2: You should be embarrassed. By your conduct, you're just assuming

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Speaker 2: that I stole it.

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Speaker 3: But maybe you were just a little too busy paying

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Speaker 2: Mans you toole at paper and bought some gum.

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Speaker 4: No, no, I'm not. You were attached with the hips

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Speaker 4: to me basically the entire time, following me around like

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Speaker 4: a poppy. Actually, so I did not see you go

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Speaker 4: to a checkout.

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Speaker 2: Or anything, you know what, Let me see it.

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Speaker 3: Let me look sermon, I'm sure I have a receipt.

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Speaker 3: I have the freaking app. So even if I don't

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Speaker 3: have this physical copy, I know I.

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Speaker 4: Will have it.

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Speaker 2: It's the Target app.

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Speaker 4: You know. It Actually will be better if you just

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Speaker 4: admitted that you took it, because I think that it's

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Speaker 4: at this point you're kind of just denying denying, and

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Speaker 4: it's not really taking you any more feeling to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason, Hello, Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 3: I found it, and I found the physical copy, so

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Speaker 3: you don't think that I bought it on a different

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Speaker 3: day if I send you the app.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna send you this right now. Your twit.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yes, guys, I'm I'm so devastated to call me

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Speaker 4: a twit. I don't know how I'm ever going to

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Speaker 4: you call me a twit that Yes, I've never called

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Speaker 2: Right now, I'm waiting, uh.

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Speaker 1: Huh, you're gonna feel bad if.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look a look.

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Speaker 4: I am sorry about that. I really was convinced, obviously,

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Speaker 4: because you know when you're when you're convinced, you stick

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Speaker 1: Well why did you jump to that?

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Speaker 4: You know because I really did not remember a single

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Speaker 1: You don't think she's a thief? Now?

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Speaker 4: I no, No.

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Speaker 2: That was a little exciting.

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Speaker 1: Jason. Would you like to go on another date with MICHAELA?

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Speaker 1: Then we'll pay for it?

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't.

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Speaker 4: And I was definitely a miss step by me.

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Speaker 2: But I would like another chance because.

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Speaker 1: would you like to go on a date with him? Still?

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Speaker 3: Uh, I would like to see him again because I

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Speaker 3: did think he was really cool. But like, you have

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Speaker 3: like that is a very far week to make, especially

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Speaker 4: Great. Absolutely again, I really am sorry, and I really

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Speaker 4: appreciate the second chap. I really did, actually, so thank you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, great, Well you've got a second date. Congratulations Mikayla

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Speaker 1: and Jason. You know she's not a thief.

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Speaker 2: Now, yay? Oh good. Jule's first date fall up