1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Here we go on a Tuesday Herd hierarchy. One hour 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: from now, Nick RD. An hour from now, we are live. 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: We're in Chicago. It's the Herd. Steelers do what they 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: usually do on Monday night where they're at home. 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: They win. 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: It is great to have you in pull me up 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: her twenties in Chicago. If you're like walking around with 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: my shirt off, absolutely fantastic. So let's let's start with positive. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: Uncle Kalma. Aaron Rodgers comes to Pittsburgh. Took a tone 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: deaf and mostly dead offense for the last seven years, 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: and he's made it competent, not great, not elite. But 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: they were atrocious in the red zone last year. Now 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: they're top three time of possession yards per play. It's 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: a competent offense. But as I'm watching them beat lifeless Miami, 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: the downside is they're currently drafting twentieth and they have 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: a stop gap at quarterback, no long term solution, and 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: they don't have any assets to trade up. TJ. Watt Old, 25 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: Cam Hayward Old, Jalen Ramsey Old. They let go of Pickens, 26 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: Aaron's Old. So how many first round picks do you 27 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: want to give up to go get Mendoza or maybe 28 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: a Dante more So, again, it feels good, it's a 29 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: candy rush, but it's groundhog day. Stop gap at quarterback 30 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: barely above five hundred, rinse and repeat, and that's where 31 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: we are. And they also are dominant at home on 32 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Monday Night football. They just don't lose. So I feel 33 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: like the Steeler model is what I have a problem with. 34 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: They care about two things that just don't matter to 35 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: people with high standards. One of them is, hey, we've 36 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: got a winning record. Sean Payton never talks about that. 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: In Denver. It's it's not a thing. Sixty teams since 38 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and three have had winning records and missed 39 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs. If you have high standards, winning record is 40 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: not a top three or fourth thing. Winning division, winning playoff, 41 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: winning conference championships, winning Super Bowls, winning, a big free agency, 42 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: and a star quarterback in his prime. That's the stuff 43 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: people care about winning. The other thing is winning on 44 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: winning on Monday Night football? Yepee? How about winning in January? 45 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: Been a while? So I think again, Aaron Rodgers deserves 46 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: to meet a ton of praise. He's a forty two 47 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: year old guy and he was much better. I mean, 48 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: he's a different class a quarterback than Tua. The Dolphin's 49 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: got to cut bait with Tua. That thing's over a 50 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: backup quarterback in this league. But I think this one 51 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: stat about the Steelers really sums up the organization. Seventeen 52 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, slightly more than half have a 53 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: positive point differential. Where are the Steelers seventeenth just tread 54 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: and water, just barely just got their chin above it, 55 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: and that's what they are. Aaron has turned their red 56 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: zone woes into red zone wins at forty two. Not 57 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: a great on line, not a dependable run game OC, 58 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: so Aaron deserves all sorts of praise and short term 59 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: it feels really good. But I look at last night. 60 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there in the third quarter and I think 61 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: they had like a twenty one to three lead, and 62 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, what does it mean? It feels like Aaron 63 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: is one of those consultants that used to come by 64 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: local TV stations or radio stations. I would work for 65 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: and it was a fresh set of eyes, and you'd 66 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: bring them in and they could solve some little problems 67 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: in the building. But consultants always left pretty soon, and 68 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: all the big stuff, like bad ownership or a bad 69 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: GM or you know, not very good content. They couldn't 70 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: solve the big stuff. Aaron can't solve the fact they 71 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: spend way too much money on defense. And Aaron can't 72 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: solve the fact they still just love bragging about winning 73 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: on Monday Night football. So Aaron's gonna leave here pretty quick, 74 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: maybe comes back for one more year. So congratulations. Aaron 75 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: deserves a lot of praise. I've been critical. He's done 76 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: a good job. They were a mess in the red zone. 77 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: They're now good in the red zone, top three in 78 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: the league. They were bottom four last year. And Aaron's 79 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: always played well in these cold, harsh environments. He was 80 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: a California kid, but Green Bay, Pittsburgh, he's good in 81 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: these spots. Here's here's Mike Tomlin after another Monday night, win. 82 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: Man. 83 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: We love Monday night football. 84 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: Mission accomplished certainly. 85 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: We wanted to engineer victory, but we wanted to do 86 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: it in a certain way. 87 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: We believe in the strength of the pack and and 88 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: a lot of guys stepped up certainly and made that 89 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: a truism about the imports and playing well in December. 90 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: Do you feel like your team for getting there? You know, 91 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: see you next week. 92 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: Keep watching. 93 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 5: Been a while since been a part of stuff like this. 94 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 5: Nothing changes, It's just you know, I feel real comfortable 95 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 5: in this environment. Obviously, the crowd was really good to night, 96 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 5: but I feel comfortable in the cold weather and voice 97 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 5: been will throw a pretty good in the cold over 98 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 5: the years in Green Bay, and it can be an 99 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 5: advantage if you, you know, if you embrace it. 100 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean between Philip Rivers Kirk Cousins on Thursday 101 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers, old guys are crushing in December in 102 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: the NFL. So Kansas City has been a really well 103 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: run organization for a long time. I mean, the Hunt 104 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: family does it right. They're going to miss the playoffs 105 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: for the first time in eleven years. Not Jess Mahomes, 106 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: Pre Mahomes, Alex Smith they make the playoffs, and my 107 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: interpretation of this is missing the playoffs is perfect. It's 108 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: a cold glass of water to the face because sometimes 109 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: you make the playoffs. Pittsburgh's a great example, and you're like, 110 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: you know what, we're inches away. This is a rebuild, 111 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: not a reboot. I'll give you an example. The last 112 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: three years Kansas City with Andy Reid and Mahomes and 113 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey Hall of Famer are sixteenth in points per game, 114 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: eighteenth in yards per play, and twenty fourth in big plays. 115 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: Does that sound like a tweak in an offensive league. 116 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: Here's Albert Breer on what the Patriots Belichick decided to do. 117 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 6: Interestingly enough, was almost at the same juncture of Brady's 118 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 6: careers has happened with Mahomes now look back right. So 119 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 6: two thousand and eight, Brady goes down Matt Castle wins 120 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 6: eleven games. That causes the Patriots to say, Okay, we're 121 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 6: going to lean in and try to win with this 122 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 6: aging roster one more time. It doesn't work in two 123 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 6: thousand and nine. Then the beginning of twenty ten, Belichick 124 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 6: goes in and literally tears all sorts of evidence of 125 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 6: any championship football off the walls and says we're starting 126 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 6: over again, and then they really got on a heater. 127 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: From a draft perspective, I honestly think that's what Kansas 128 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: City needs. I've been asking every guest rebuild or retool, 129 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: who's their fourth best player, Trent McDuffie, Mahomes who may 130 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: not be available next year, Creed Humphrey, who's their fourth 131 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: best player in their prime? Does the Rams have about twelve? 132 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Eagles have twelve, Lions have nine. Started looking around, Baltimore's 133 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: got eight. So the Chargers, by the way, in division, 134 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: are getting both their offensive tackles back, and Harbaugh's going 135 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: to ace his third straight draft like they've done really 136 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,119 Speaker 1: well drafting because Harbaugh Ortiz, they know that college game, 137 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: by the way, bow Knicks is getting really good and 138 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson dead cap hit. It's off the books 139 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: that they're going to get better when you've got a Harbaugh, 140 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, bow Nicks, Herbert in division. Tweaking is not 141 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: their issue twenty fourth on big plays. They have offensive issues, 142 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: and that's with Andy Reid, the best offensive play designer 143 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: arguably we've had since like Bill Walsh right. 144 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 7: Like. 145 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: It's not a tweak. You got to take this boat 146 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: back to port and rebuild it. Think about this, The 147 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: NFL allows forty percent of the teams in this league 148 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Jacksonville's getting in, Houston's getting in. Not 149 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: historically well run franchises getting in. If Miami would have 150 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: one last night, they've still have a life. The tone 151 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: deaf to offense Steelers are probably going to get in 152 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: Baltimore offense is broken, completely broken. Still may it in 153 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: Kansas City, won't With reading Mahomes, I don't buy that. 154 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: It's just a it's a retool again. Boat back to port, 155 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: rebuild it. Good stuff today. Nick right drew bledsoe stops 156 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: by the Miami situation with Tua. It's you know, I 157 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: don't mean to beat a dead horse. But small quarterbacks. 158 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: Remember when Russell Wilson regressed badly, like in a year 159 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: and a half, we were like, what what is it? 160 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: If you watch TWOA today and two years ago, he 161 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: is a backup and not a great backup. Small quarterbacks 162 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: age really quickly. Kyler Murray do only even want to 163 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: plan them anymore. 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All that 188 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: torque and horsepower, not a lot of mistakes, and I 189 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: wish he completed more than fifty eight and a half 190 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: percent of his throws. I do think that's a little low. 191 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: But there are three quarterbacks in this league, Josh Allen, 192 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, and Caleb Williams. I can't lose that much 193 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: sleep on it. I'll give you an example. Let's say 194 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: you had a child seven eight years old that had 195 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: been tested and you had what they call a gifted child. 196 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: Top one of one percent was playing Beethoven at eight 197 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: years old. You're really going to lose sleep that three 198 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: four times a week. He puts his pajama Amazon backwards. 199 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: You got Beethoven down the hall. Get over it. Not 200 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: every kid ages grows the same way. Not every quarterback's 201 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: the same Okay, I'm not losing a ton of sleep. 202 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: I think sixty one percent probably where you're going to go. 203 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: But everybody's talking about how accurate Josh Allen is this year. 204 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: That's because he throws the tight ends. He never throws 205 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: the ball down the field. Aaron Judge one season led 206 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: baseball in strikeouts. I'm okay with it. Brett Farr most 207 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: interceptions ever, Kobe second most missed field goals in league history. 208 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: Shack Shack a fifty two percent career free throw shooter, 209 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: Michael Dell, the late Paul Allen, Bill Gates all dropped 210 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: out of college. Not everybody in society is played by 211 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: the same rules. Aaron Rodgers had pretty good old lines 212 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: in Green Bay consistently. He's the most sacked quarterback in 213 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: league history. Held the ball a little longer because he 214 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: wanted to try something spectacular. So Caleb Williams, the horsepower 215 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: the torque. He's making about two throws, three throws every Sunday. 216 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: They look like optical illusions, like like next Gen stats 217 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: is like, oh, that had sixteen percent chance of being 218 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: completed and it was so again, if your kid is 219 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: doing Beethove of to eight, all right, he wets the 220 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: bed more than you're happy with, Okay, whatever, He's different 221 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: that like, not everybody's planned by the same rules. Caleb 222 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: Josh Allen Mahomes. It looks different. It's it's not ideal. 223 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: I want I want a higher percentage. But I watched 224 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: him against the Browns. I'm like, he made two throws 225 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: in that game. This one's one of them. 226 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: How did he see that? 227 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: Like in the stock market, I've been in it since 228 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, the gains outweigh the losses. You can't 229 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: lose your you know what because of a bad earnings 230 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: report with the upside is so great. I wish he 231 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: completed sixty one word fifty eight and a half. And 232 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear by Josh Allen. He's really 233 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: gotten accurate. He never throws the ball down the field. 234 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: They don't have a wide receiver in Buffalo that could 235 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: crack Chicago's starting lineup. Luther Burden would be their best receiver. 236 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: He's the Bear's third. DJ Moore would be their best receiver. 237 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: Roma Dunze would be their best receiver. Even the Bears 238 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: tight ends are great, so are Buffalo. But Josh. I 239 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: would rather Josh complete sixty four percent of his throws 240 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: and throw the ball down the field more. Here's Ben 241 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: Johnson on where Caleb is with his accuracy. 242 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: He was comfortable. 243 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 9: He did a great job, you know, And that's it's 244 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 9: a hard thing to do, is be comfortable one of 245 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 9: pass rushes like that. 246 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was a good week. 247 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 9: Forms step in the right direction, and you know, I 248 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 9: told him this afternoon. I said, whatever he ate for 249 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 9: breakfast yesterday, we just need to keep doing that on 250 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 9: game day from here on out. 251 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: Take a deep breath. He is spectacular. And there's only 252 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: two other guys in the league to me that feel 253 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: the same way when they take the snap, Josh and Patrick. 254 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: J Mack with the news. 255 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: Turn on the news. This is the herd Line News. 256 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 7: All right, let's get started with that Broncos win over 257 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 7: the Packers on Sunday. 258 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: It was a big one. 259 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 7: A lot of people crowning Denver as a potential Super 260 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 7: Bowl team now. 261 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 10: I mean they're in. 262 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 7: The discussion for sure if bo Knicks plays like that again. 263 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 7: One of the big plays in that game was Patrick 264 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 7: Sirtan's diving interception of Jordan Love. 265 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 10: I mean it literally flipped the game. 266 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 7: Packers could do nothing after Watson left, and Sirtana is 267 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 7: now saying that this team showed what they're capable of 268 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 7: in the. 269 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: Postseason means a lot. 270 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 11: I mean, we just kept talking about it the whole week, 271 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 11: you know how big of a game it was. But 272 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 11: we always say, man, we're gonna playing bigger, bigger games 273 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 11: down the road, down the stretch, and you know, I mean, 274 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 11: we we not have finished product at all, you know, 275 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 11: I mean, We've still got a lot. 276 00:15:58,880 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: More work to do. 277 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 11: That's the scary part about it, you know what I 278 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 11: mean going into this run, you know, I mean going 279 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 11: on to these last three game, going into the playoffs. Man, 280 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 11: I just feel like we still got a lot more 281 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 11: work to do, and you know, we just correct some things. 282 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: But man, you know this team's going on in places and 283 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson dead cap money off. The Bucks roster's 284 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: going to have space. J Mack right now looks like peepe. 285 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: It is such an interesting year. Sometimes you get breaks 286 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: in life. No Mahomes, no Borough, maybe no Lamar Jackson. 287 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: You say, well, what about bo Nicks, Well he'll be 288 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: facing potentially at home Trevor Lawrence, old Aaron Rodgers, young 289 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: Drake May Herbert with a horrible old line. I mean, again, 290 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: Houston's offense, you don't know what you're getting. The defense 291 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: is great if you're because Mahomes in Kansas City are 292 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: going to be back eventually. Burrow's actually eventually going to 293 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: make the playoffs again. Baltimore is never down for long. 294 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: So if there's a year to win it with a 295 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: young quarterback Drake Mayor Bo Nicks. This is the year 296 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: to win the AFC. 297 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, interesting game against the Jags this weekend. I started 298 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 7: to dig into. 299 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 10: This a little bit. 300 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 301 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 7: This this Denver defense, I don't want to say overrated. 302 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 7: Some of the analytics like them, but a lot of it. 303 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 7: They got fat and happy off bad teams. Colin, we 304 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 7: watch the Packers. I think they scored on five straight 305 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 7: possessions in the game this past week, the Giants, the Colts, 306 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 7: lots of teams have moved the ball on them. 307 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 10: I'm very curious where you land on this game, because. 308 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: Yet Jacksonville, if I got the hook, I would take them. 309 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: It's three right now. If it went to three and 310 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: a half, I would take Jacksonville. I would. 311 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, it is a tough one. Who's a better quarterback 312 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 7: in this game? This season? 313 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: Bow Knicks? Bo Knicks doesn't make the mistakes. Bo Knicks 314 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: doesn't take the sacks. I mean, I'm watching Tua last night. 315 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: You had to see this, and you're like Tua, you're 316 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: taking like rookie quarterback sacks, like throw the ball out 317 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: of bounds, like you can't figure out the little stuff 318 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: like Tua. First of all, he's a small guy. He 319 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: doesn't have the arm, the size, but he's taking like 320 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: these bad rookie quarterback sacks. So it's a Bonnicks durable 321 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: never get sacked. Trevor Lawrence gets sacked, ugly picks, negative plays, 322 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: and I like Trevor. I think Bo's better than people think. 323 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 7: Interesting thing that emerged. So he's starting to run a 324 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 7: little bit more, Trevor Lawrence. You remember at a Clemson 325 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 7: that I'll never forget that Ohio State game. 326 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: Right, I got on the sideline. 327 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was like sixty yard touchdown round, Like, who 328 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 7: is this guy? And he's starting to run a little 329 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 7: more this year. Liam Cohen remember had Baker Mayfield doing 330 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 7: a lot of scrambling, keeping. 331 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 10: Drives alive with his legs. This is a new album. 332 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 7: I think Jacksonville is a little dangerous colin their wide 333 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 7: receiving group after getting Jacoby Myers. 334 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 10: You know, the earth of thing well is a fun 335 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 10: team to watch. 336 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: The other thing is Travis They've done this. When Travis 337 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: Hunter left there was a little bit of a and 338 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: it's not against Travis, good kid, but he was a 339 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: bit of a distraction. Who he's a star? What to 340 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: do offense defense. He's left. They caught fire, like they 341 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: had this kind of weird thing in the building. Well, 342 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: he's our best athlete. What are we gonna do with it? Now? 343 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: Everybody's got there to find roles. That's not a topic. 344 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm not blaming Travis Hunter, but they're a very It's 345 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: always felt like a distracted franchise. They've had about a 346 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: six week run, totally focused. Run the ball, stop the run. 347 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Quarterback plays better, no noise. Jacksonville's a real team. 348 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 7: A lot of points in this one. Jacksonville and Denver 349 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 7: both can move the ball here all right. Next up 350 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 7: is the Thursday night match up here out West. It 351 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 7: is the Rams at the Seahawks. It's essentially for the 352 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 7: number one seed certainly for the division. If the Rams 353 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 7: win it, they will lock it up. Kyron Williams talked 354 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 7: about the big win over the Lions and how good 355 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 7: the offense is right now. 356 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: Can't stop us, You can't stop us. You know where 357 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 4: the ball is going, you still can't stop us. It's 358 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: like for me, that's just is so cool seeing being 359 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 4: out there on the field, and you know, with great 360 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 4: guys like Poka and Devonte and all the tight ends 361 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: and offensive linemen and it's fourth down anything that they 362 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 4: got us and then we you know, we get to 363 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 4: first down. 364 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: So to me, that. 365 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 4: Feeling is like, ha haha, you can't stop us. We 366 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: gonna keep doing what we're doing well. 367 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: I will say Blake Korum has now emerged as a 368 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: legitimate number two back Terrence ferguson the Oregon rookie tight end. 369 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: He's getting snaps and they're gonna need both because DeVonta 370 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: Adams has the hammy issue. He may not play in 371 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: the regular season again, so they don't. I would say 372 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: this their flaw is Stafford's lack of mobility. If the 373 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: pocket gets devoured, he he's not picking up stuff with 374 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: his feet. But it is about as deep their Their 375 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: hole is the back end of their secondary. You can 376 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: you can throw the ball on this team, and you 377 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: can go over the top on him offensively, not a 378 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: lot of flaws. 379 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, uh huh. 380 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 7: You see that Seahawks favored in this What come on, really, 381 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 7: we get some numbers on Seattle. We'll save him for 382 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 7: later in the show. They're not good, right, Colin. They 383 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 7: have not been a good football team for about a months. 384 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 10: Loss where Darnold. 385 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 7: Through four picks kind of mess with them. They have 386 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 7: not been the same team since I don't want to 387 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 7: hear about beaten old man rivers on a fifty six 388 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 7: yard field goal. 389 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: With I'm gonna give you. I can give you Sam 390 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: Donald's stats. I'll do it last hour of the show 391 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: today that you will not believe. And I'll go all 392 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: the way back to Carolina, not Minnesota. I'll go all 393 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: the way back to Carolina. 394 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 10: You can go back to. 395 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 7: Like November on Sam Donald and there's some bad stats. 396 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 10: Listen. 397 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 7: I'm not selling the Seahawks. I'm just saying I don't 398 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 7: see how you pick against the Rams here. I mean, 399 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 7: whether it's the three tight ends, the dual running backs. 400 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: Hookah. 401 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 7: They've scored over thirty four points six of their last 402 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 7: eight games. This is the best offense in the league. 403 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 7: You're not taking the Seahawks? 404 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 4: Are you? 405 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 10: You going back to your Seattle roots. 406 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't give all my spice out. I saved some 407 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: of the spices for Thursday. 408 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 10: Hey, okay, all right. 409 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 7: The final story is the Rams. They are coming off 410 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 7: that loss. I'm sorry the Lions. They're coming off the 411 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 7: loss to the Rams. The Lions had a good, good 412 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 7: start to that game twenty four to fourteen lead late 413 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 7: first half and then collapsed. The Lions have not won 414 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 7: consecutive games Week's four and five. Somehow, Jared Goff is 415 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 7: confident and a bounce back against the Steelers this week. 416 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 12: We're resilient, you know. I hope I can give you 417 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 12: a really good answer in a few weeks. But we're resilient, 418 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 12: we really are. And I expect us to bounce back 419 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 12: from this. And we still have plenty of stuff in 420 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 12: front of us. We do, and we've got a great 421 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 12: group that can win a championship here and we know that, 422 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 12: and we just have to stick together and not allow 423 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 12: some of the narratives to pull anything apart. And our 424 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 12: captains need to step up. Our leaders need to step 425 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 12: up and be vocal and have energy and not anything 426 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 12: that I don't expect us to do. But yeah, we 427 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 12: got to show that resilience a few more times. 428 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 11: Here. 429 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 7: One of the good stats here this last couple of 430 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 7: years under Dan Campbell, after a loss, the Lions have 431 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 7: been the best team in the league. 432 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 10: Yep, colent, They've won twelve. 433 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 7: Straight after a loss, not just straight up against the 434 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 7: spread too. They're a machine that's why this line has 435 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 7: ballooned out to seven. 436 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is my This is my second favorite beat 437 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: of the week. The Lions home covering by the way. 438 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: Steelers generally struggle against the run, especially on the road, 439 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: and here comes Jamiir Gibbs Montgomery and that old line. 440 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: Love Detroit this week. Number. I think the number will 441 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: get to like seven and a half and then it's 442 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: not as betable. But at six and a half, seven, 443 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: I love the Lions this week. 444 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 445 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 7: The Steelers cannot get stopped. Their defense is not very good. 446 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 7: I don't know if Watt's back, But offensively, I'll say this, 447 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers showed me some things last night throwing the ball. 448 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: It was twenty three at twenty seven, listen in the 449 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: red zone. The Steelers were a true they were like 450 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: bottom four. Now they're top three or four. Aaron's been great. Basically, 451 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: he's been the exclamation point to the offense, which last 452 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: several years has been great. Between the thirties and can't 453 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: finish drives. Aaron's IQ, his accuracy, his quick release. Suddenly 454 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: they're very good finishing drives. That isn't Tomlin, That isn't 455 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: the OC, That isn't the run game. None of those 456 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: we know any we don't trust. That's Aaron, great quarterbacks, 457 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: great and congested areas. Aaron is the difference for this 458 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: offense in Pittsburgh in the red zone specifically. 459 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 7: And now we know that Detroit defense is hemorrhaging stuff 460 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 7: back end cannot stop anybody. So I think there's points. 461 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 7: I bet the over this one over fifty one. I 462 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 7: think the Steelers could probably get to twenty four and 463 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 7: like you said, Detroit, they're gonna probably hit forty. 464 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and 465 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. So I 466 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: always say, new information, new opinion. I mean, you're a 467 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: pilot and you get handed the latest storm which has 468 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: moved into your area, should you just fly through it? 469 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: New information, new opinion? George Pickens earlier this year, I believed, Yeah, 470 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: I think they found their number two receiver. I don't 471 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: feel like that. First eleven games with Dak Prescott and 472 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: George Pickens were absolutely remark arkable. Dak completed seventy two 473 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: percent of his throat and had a passer rating of 474 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty four. But in the last three games, 475 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: George Pickens is pouting thirty seven passer rating for Dak 476 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: to Pickens, and it's not on Dak. Dak's been spectacular. 477 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: It's why they always say business deals get done on 478 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: a golf course, because it's hard to play golf. You're 479 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: playing for four hours, three and a half in a 480 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: private after a couple of bad five woods. How's the 481 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: guy act, how's a woman act? Throwing their clubs, swearing, 482 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: blaming somebody else beyond themselves. Golf unveils the truth. And 483 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: the NFL season is long, and it's cold and players 484 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: are banged up. This goes back to something I've always 485 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: said about pro football. Two rules in a contract, pay 486 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: big money very infrequently in the NFL, certain positions and 487 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: certain guys, and it's got to be the mature guys 488 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: and the team guys, the we guys over the me guys. 489 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: At Georgia Pittsburgh in now Dallas, George Pickens is really immature. 490 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of the des Bryant thing. Remember 491 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: des Bryant. You saw a video of him hard knocks 492 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: in that room and you're like, he never got a 493 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: big contract. After that, it's like, wow, this stuff is 494 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: bad with Pickens in the last three games, and that's 495 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: what we see. I've always used the argument if you 496 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: go to a if you go to a party and 497 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: you see a couple arguing, that's what's I like in 498 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: the drive home. So Pickens, this isn't it. And so 499 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: much of GMing is the landmine you don't step on. 500 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: The contract, the big one you don't sign. So I 501 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: think he's a unique talent, but he's into a pouting stage. 502 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: And Mike Tomlin, who is about as player friendly with 503 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: talented people as you know, he kept ab around for 504 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: a long time and finally said okay, and ab unraveled. 505 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: So now Jerry, Jerry, you know, Jerry the deal maker. 506 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: Jerry hasn't sold the stock yet. 507 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: They did a good job of mitigating him and it 508 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: was effected. As far as his effort, I would have 509 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: liked to see him like a few of those outstanding 510 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 3: catches that he makes. But I'd like to have seen 511 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: Dak with more time to get him the ball. 512 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 9: Has anything changed in the last two weeks regarding your 513 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 9: desire to bring him back next year in the future. 514 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: No, a reminder, Dallas is projected and these things can change, certainly, 515 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: But Dallas has projected to be forty eight million over 516 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: the cap. Be very careful about a player that you 517 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: thought was a diamond in the rough pivoting the diva, 518 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: especially since we've seen it before. It's not about your stars. 519 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: It's about what kind of guy your stars are. Are 520 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: they build around you guys? Are they we guys or 521 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: me guys? I've said many times on this show, and 522 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: nbagm told me twenty years ago, it's not about a star. 523 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: It's about getting the right star, obsessed about winning, willing 524 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: to be team first, Tim Duncan, It's not just about 525 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: the stars. Which star do you get? Because there's a 526 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: lot of stars in sports, especially at wide receiver. Is 527 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: there an argument heard hierarchy top of the Hour plus 528 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: Nick Right? Is there an argument? I thought about this 529 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: this morning to keep Mike McDaniel in Miami. I want 530 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: to throw this out to you because there's an example 531 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: of how it could work. 532 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: Next, be sure to catch live editions of The Herd 533 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: Weekdays and Noon Easter not a Empacific NFL doubleheader. 534 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 7: First, it's the Eagles versus the Commanders, Then the Packers. 535 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 10: Take on the Bears for control. 536 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 7: The NFC North pregame coverage begins at four pm Eastern 537 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 7: on BOT. 538 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: Listen. I don't have to love everybody I hire. In fact, 539 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: you can be pretty mid and because it's a headache 540 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: to replace you, there's no viable candidates, I can keep 541 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: you around for a couple of years. So Miami's not good. 542 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: They've already fired the GM and they should cut at 543 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: the end of the year to him. Here's my argument. 544 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a strong one, but to keep 545 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel for another year. And again, he's not my 546 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: kind of alpha guy. He's quirky even when doing halftime interviews. 547 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: What did the Broncos do? They were five and twelve 548 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: and the offense was broken. They got a offensive coach, 549 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, who found a young quarterback that nobody else loved. 550 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: Bo Nicks a lot of people at him as a 551 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: second round talent. Sean Payton loved him, and look what happened. Yes, 552 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: they had to deal with a dead cap issue, but 553 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: when you get that quarterback first few years, you mitigate 554 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: it because you're not paying him anything. So Mike McDaniel, again, 555 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: not my ideal candidate, but hear me out. Miami today 556 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: has the number eleven pick three games are the Bengals 557 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: the Bucks in New England. They'll lose the last two 558 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: because they just don't have the personnel. The Bengals have 559 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: announced that Joe Burrow is gonna play, well, well, well, 560 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're just gonna sit a couple of our 561 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: safeties and corners for that game. You lose all three, 562 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: six and eleven, and suddenly that eleventh pick becomes the 563 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: seventh or eighth. Well, now we can make a move. 564 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: Now we're gonna get, if not the first, the second 565 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: best quarterback. And I can make an argument the GM 566 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: extended to a that's not on Mike McDaniel. Tua, like 567 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: a lot of small quarterbacks. Russell Wilson has regressed badly 568 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: in the last year and a half, and there's an 569 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: argument to be made that Mike McDaniel did his job 570 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: and actually overachieved. Do you realize he got twa to 571 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: lead the league in completion percentage, one year, passing yards, 572 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: one year passer rating one year with Tua. You watched 573 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: it last night, So Sean Payton, you got a broken offense. 574 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: Sean Payton comes in and says, you know what, there's 575 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: this quarterback. Nobody else likes I'm gonna get him at 576 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: like the eleventh or twelfth pick. Mike McDaniel does offense, 577 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel may look at one of these college quarterbacks 578 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: not named Fernando Mendoza and say, okay, I don't want 579 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: to go get that. We've got the seventh or eighth pick. 580 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: But I see my bow Nicks. And because you're watching 581 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: Tua last night, Tua is a mediocre backup, and that's 582 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: not a shot at Tua. Small quarterbacks age very fast. 583 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: It's like hyper athletic athletes age fast. So do small guys. Kyler, Tua, 584 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,239 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I mean, I think there's an argument if 585 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: you get the GM job, you're gonna be looking for 586 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: an offensive coach. Tell me the candidates right now. There 587 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: is no vaybel on the market. Jim Harbaugh, Sean Payton, 588 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: they're not on the market. There's no Ben Johnson on 589 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: the market. I can make the argument that last night 590 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: was obviously a mass Is that on Mike McDaniel. I mean, 591 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: Tua was awful. Here is Tua on his struggles last night. 592 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 13: I got to be better for our guys offensively. And two, 593 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 13: you know, I'm pretty disappointed in myself with how how 594 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 13: ready I got our receiver corps in terms of operation, 595 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 13: in terms of guys knowing where to line, in terms 596 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 13: of the communication when it comes to personnel, you know, 597 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 13: And that's something I harped to those guys when we're 598 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 13: in our own player led meetings, and you know, I 599 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 13: kind of felt like I let our guys down on 600 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 13: that aspect. 601 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he took a couple of sacks last 602 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: night that are rookie mistakes. Like he just taken bad 603 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean, why throw that ball? He's afraid to get hit, 604 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: So if you look at his numbers, have just I mean, 605 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: that's a terrible sack to take. It just doesn't work anymore. 606 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: I mean that throw, come on, what do you do? 607 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: He just don't want to get hit. He wants to 608 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: get rid of the ball, especially in a cold night, 609 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: hard hard turf. So there is an argument that the 610 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: GM was over his skis or at least not very 611 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: good to is regressed. There's plenty of good gms on 612 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: the market. There are good gms on the market. There's 613 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: a lot of sharp guys out there that know how 614 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: to run the draft. There's not a lot of great candidates. 615 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: It's not a great candidate year. Last year with Rabel, 616 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: it was year before with Hardball, it was all right. 617 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: Here's the current playoff picture. It's really really interesting this 618 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: year because you're not having many of the star quarterbacks. 619 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: You know, Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar Jackson may not be in. 620 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: Here are the current AFC playoff matchups for the radio audience. 621 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: We'll go slow here, so ded forget to buy. How 622 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: about this one? Houston a seven seed at New England 623 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: and two seed. I gotta tell you, I think I 624 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: take Houston and I like New England, but I still 625 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: contend the second half of that Bills game with the Patriots, 626 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: you saw the truth. They missed the left side of 627 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: their offensive line. They still don't have a ton of depth. 628 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: They need another draft class empower embolden the offensive line 629 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: and defensive line. I think I would take Houston there. 630 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo at Jacksonville, I'm telling you Jacksonville is a They'll 631 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: be Jacksonville maybe an underdog in that game. I think 632 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: i'd take Jacksonville at home. I think I would much 633 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: better defense, very good, consistent run game, good good team 634 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: to knock off, come in with a little chip on 635 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: your shoulder, Liam Cohen against Sean McDermott, the offensive, clever coach. 636 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: I think i'd take Jacksonville Chargers. Battle line at Pittsburgh 637 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: is a coin flip. Just one of those games. The 638 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: Chargers would come in favored by a point and a 639 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: half in Pittsburgh would win. But I think trying to 640 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: predict the AFC outcomes is tough. I don't know who 641 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: I like in Chargers Steelers. Let's go to the NFC, 642 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: where I think it's it's clearer in the NFC, so 643 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: rams get to buy. I would absolutely take the Seahawks 644 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: to beat Tampa in Tampa. I don't think that's a 645 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: good matchup for Tampa and Baker at all. San Francisco 646 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: at Philly, I would take Philly. If it was in 647 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: the Bay, I would take San Francisco, I would take Philly. 648 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about a patchwork defense and an 649 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: elite defense, and the elite defense is at home. Green 650 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: Bay at Chicago bears all day. This is not a 651 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: knock on Green Bay. I think about this this morning. 652 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: With Green Bay, They've not only lost Tucker Craft a 653 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: month ago, great tight end Christian Watson, their primary deep 654 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: threat They're not the same offense without Christian Watson and 655 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, their best pass rusher. They are also missing 656 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark in the Cowboy trade. So if you take 657 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: those four players Watson, Micah, Kenny Clark, and Tucker Kraft, 658 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: those are for their top six players. Green Bay is not. 659 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 1: And when I do hurt hierarchy, I'm based on your 660 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: current personnel. Green Bay has lost four of their top 661 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: six to seven players, maybe four of their top five. 662 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark's a good player, So any big disagreements, J Mack, 663 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: if you go AFC to NFC, I think the AFC 664 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: is really tough. I think Seattle at Tampa and Chicago 665 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: hosting green Bay. I mean, what's interesting is green Bay 666 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: and Chicago are playing this week in Chicago. I think 667 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: green Bay is a favorite. 668 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 10: Not for long. 669 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 9: I'm with you. 670 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 7: I think the Eagles are suddenly becoming more dangerous in 671 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 7: the NFC. I just think if the forty nine ers 672 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 7: have to go to the Bears or Bucks, the forty 673 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 7: nine ers win. But if the forty nine have to 674 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 7: go to the Eagles, I don't think they win that game. 675 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 4: Would you agree? 676 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 10: How do you handle San Fran at Chicago. 677 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 7: You've got an amazing coach and quarterback in San fran 678 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 7: they've gone to cold weather before and one okay, and 679 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 7: you got a first time playoff quarterback in Gama Williams 680 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 7: against Robert Solla. 681 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: So Peyton Manning has said this for years. There's preseason speed, 682 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: there's regular season speed, and then there's playoff speed. So 683 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 1: the teams that make the playoffs, even the worst team 684 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, they usually are very good. They have 685 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: a good coaching staff. Very few bad coaching staffs make 686 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So when you get to the playoffs, you're 687 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: facing the best coaching staffs, the top forty percent of 688 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: coaching staffs, and they're very good at exploiting your weaknesses. 689 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: A lot of these teams, like Tennessee, you know on 690 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: interim coach can't exploit what the Niners can do. McVeigh could, 691 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: right like Ben Johnson could. The Niners defense is just 692 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: not very very good in terms of personnel. I think 693 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: in the regular season, Jason, you're on a treadmill. A 694 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: team comes into town, they're banged up, you're banged up. 695 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: A lot of it's survival. If you score in the 696 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: first drive, you have a sixty sixty percent chance to win. 697 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: You're doing things in the regular season. It's it's a 698 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: treadmill like it's it's okay, we're gonna script twelve plays. 699 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: Let's take a lead, not turn the ball over. It's 700 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: like postseason baseball. Everything gets more circumstantial, more situational. You'll 701 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: use starters in the bullpen. You're gonna do stuff in 702 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: the postseason. The best forty percent of coaching staffs to 703 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: exploit holes, and those holes don't get exploited as regularly 704 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: in the regular season. The Niners defense will be a liability. 705 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: It won't be brought for it. He'll be fine. That 706 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: defense will be a liability. That's why I say there 707 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: are boxes to check. A lot of people look at 708 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: Seattle and go Sam Darnold's recklessness. It's not gonna cost 709 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: against most of the league. It did against the Rams, right, 710 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: So you do get to a point where I think 711 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: San Francisco been a great story. I don't think they're 712 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: a great roster or a great team. 713 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 10: Okay, can we go to the AFC real quick? 714 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 7: Because that Jacksonville matchup that you mentioned is interesting. I'm 715 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 7: not betting against Josh Allen in December till it's bit 716 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 7: me in the butt before against. 717 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 10: The Chiefs in the playoffs. 718 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 7: But I just I don't think you could go against 719 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 7: Josh Allen, none of those teams in the in the 720 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 7: AA who scares you the most in the AFC. 721 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,280 Speaker 10: The end because of the Houston defense. 722 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 7: They're the best unit of any unit cor profentral defense. 723 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, the best unit in the NFL is the 724 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: Houston Texans defense. I mean speed, length, rush ends. I 725 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: don't know what the number is. 726 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 7: If you go look at Rams offense versus Houston defense 727 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 7: is pretty much a touch and go, right, they're both 728 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 7: at full strength. 729 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 10: Rams offense is a truck right now. 730 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think Rams beat the Texans earlier this year. 731 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: And if that was the score fourteen to. 732 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 10: Nine, that's right early in the season. 733 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 7: The Texans were driving and then Landman with the peanut punch, 734 00:39:59,040 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 7: remember that one. 735 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the and Blake Krum and DeVante Adams weren't 736 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: quite rolling. 737 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 7: But you could argue the Houston defense it showed well 738 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 7: against that juggernaut Rams offense. 739 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 10: But you's like it was it was September. 740 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, that's I think the AFC is wide 741 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: open again. Even Denver is the number one seed, has 742 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 1: won a lot of close games at home, a lot 743 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: of them, Nick writes around the corner, heard hierarchy. If 744 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: you're watching FS one right now, Seasons greetings, even if 745 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: those are just graphics. Seasons greetings from our fake fireplace.