WEBVTT - Hangin' With The 'Boys: Remembering Jim Garrett 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:05.000 Before listening, ask good doctor, if your heart is healthy 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:09.400 enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's hanging with the Boys, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:13.800 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:18.880 in Frisco. Now your host Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:28.600 Shannon Gross good Man Monday. Wow. Wow, Kurt sounds like crap, 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.600 but he looks good, I hope, so it don't feel 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.360 too bad. Boys a little frog, he's got his he's 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:41.240 got a strip club DJ Boys James rynnolds Uh sent 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:46.000 me a Twitter message last week, why because the Eagle needed? 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:51.720 What's up, Nate? You demand Nate's writing something. We are 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.560 We got a new setup here. This is weird because 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:58.800 now on that monitor in the corner, look it's delayed. 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.480 Who I don't know if I like the monitor in 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:06.279 the corner that shows the show. And then we're getting fancy. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.200 I think we're gonna show some video clips now starting 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:11.920 on some of our shows, and we'll be able to 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.000 see those over in the corner. So we get we're 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.880 getting high tech. We're getting produced, right Douglas. Oh yeah, 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.480 the good people in our TV production department, I know, 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:24.399 Dave and Kent, Dave, Ernest and Kent is back there. Yeah, 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.920 who who? Who will be? Caden is going to provide 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.080 us with some highlights so they Cayden in searched the videos. 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.640 He does as far as I know. And there are 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.360 others back there, and I'll get a complete list so 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.920 that we can thank them appropriately. Yeah, that'd be great. Wow, man, 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.240 I'd be great. No, No, I'm to do the credits 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:47.520 at the end of the show. The show I should have. Wow. Man, 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:53.240 how did y'all feel first weekend without football? You guys? Okay? 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:58.800 The Olympics help ease the football angst. I watched little Olympics, 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.440 actually went to the man. The game you got out 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:09.720 in public? Wow? No, whether you're sick for once? Nice? 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.840 You go the Lakers game? Yeah yeah? Or saw the 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:19.360 Nate's favorite player, Isaiah Thomas playing there. Let me say this, 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:25.200 my friend. Uh, but I enjoyed my weekend without football. Man. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.959 I watched basketball on TV. Now I'm gonna get more 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.680 into the college scene of basketball, and I enjoyed. Man. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:36.280 And uh, it's all about the draft now. Yeah, we 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.680 can look forward to the draft. Now we can look 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:40.040 at the draft. I don't know if we can look 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.520 forward to it. I just want to know who we're 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:48.360 gonna get. We have a we have a special treat today. 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:53.000 We have a toll free phone line now here at 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.720 the Star. Will you answer it? I mean, for three 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.520 weeks you've been talking about now. I don't think anybody's called. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.720 It's a little early for our normal crowd. I don't 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:03.840 think they're used to us being on a way. No, 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.000 they're not awake, but we'll try to call us. Eight 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:11.919 eight eight what's the show? Two two nine secs. Look 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:13.360 at that and they can read it on the screen. 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:17.400 About that, call us, it's on the screen. We would 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.200 love to hear what's on your mind hanging with the 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.520 boys this offseason? So we have we got a little 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:29.240 bit of little little bit of bad news over the weekend. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:33.880 What was that Coach Garrett's father passed away. Jim Garrett, 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:39.000 a long time scout for the Cowboys. Kurt. Uh, you 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.240 guys had a little bit to do help? Uh, you 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.040 had an article on it or something. Yeah, we actually 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:48.320 ran a documentary about Jim and Jason just a couple 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.280 of years ago. It's back up on the site now, 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:52.400 or it's featured on the site now if you want 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:56.120 to check it out. It's very cool. Um. We also, 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.520 Jeff Sullivan, one of our long time freelance guys here, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.240 had been up to interview Jim. He went up there 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.680 once and interviewed him in person a couple of years 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.800 ago when Jim's health was already kind of failing, had 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:10.840 a chance to sit down him down with him, talk 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:12.760 to him for quite a while, and then it's also 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:14.920 had a few phone conversations with him. He wrote a 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.919 great kind of tribute to Jim on the website. I 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:21.160 would definitely check that out, Jeff Sullivan's article on it, 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.560 so it's very nice. And Jim had an amazing life. 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:25.520 I mean, I don't know how much, Nate, if you 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.080 guys crossed path much here when in the nineties, but 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.440 Jim was a scout here for thirty something years and 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.360 I had some pretty interesting stories. It sounds like, yeah, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.720 scouted scout Troy or Emmett one of those guys, right, 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.040 because if you do the tour up here and right 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:44.560 outside of scouting, they have the actual original handwritten sheets. 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.280 And I believe Jim Garrett was on I know one 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.560 of those guys. Yeah, I think it was aikman, yeah, 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.640 And I mean he scouted everybody but that was one 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.280 of his big ones, was Aikman, but he was. One 0:04:54.320 --> 0:05:00.799 of his famous stories was he was big on Randy 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:05.320 Moss and in the scouting uh, you know, guys get 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.600 together and talk about players. I think at the time 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.840 head coach chan Gailey didn't want the potential headaches and 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.360 Moss you might remember Nate and I think mister Jones 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.880 didn't really want to go down that road either because, uh, 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:19.840 some of the things with Michael Irvin going on at 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.559 the time. But Jim supposedly got on the table and said, 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.359 you know, this is the NFL, this is not the 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:29.839 Boy Scouts, and it was like demanding that we draft Moss, 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:36.640 and obviously we didn't and the rest is history show. Yeah, 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.920 Hall of Fame now, So, um, that was one we 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.120 kind of wished Jim had been right on, but he 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.280 was right. We wish he'd been able to talk him 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.440 into it. So yeah, that documentary is the documentary in 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:51.240 the article as well. Um, I don't believe it's part 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.040 of the documentaries on the front page of the of 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:57.880 the website. Yeah, that's an interesting, interesting watch. You know 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:01.320 how he mentored kids even even after he got out 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.359 of got out of scouting. Yeah, bring him to his 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.680 house and yeah, the Miles Awesome was Miles Awesome was 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.520 from the area up there in New Jersey where Jim 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.720 Garrett was, and Jim Garrett actually worked him out in 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.600 his backyard basically, and uh, it was kind of the 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.279 key person to get Miles signed. So that turned up 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.040 pretty well. You know what's amazing. I tell people all 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:24.000 the football stuff, that's that's great, you know, and I 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.000 tell people that all of that. But when I when 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.279 I ran across mister Garrett, he was always a gentleman. 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.600 I always had nice things to say. And I tell 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.800 people this ain't always the case. And I told Douglas 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.800 to send it back. It ain't always the case. But 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:41.040 I said, if you really want to know what a 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:46.200 man and a woman about, look at the kids. Look 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:50.240 at the kids. And it ain't always the case. But 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.359 look at look at look at the kids. And you 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.279 look at John. I mean you look at it one 0:06:55.360 --> 0:07:00.440 in scout and you look at Jason, gentleman all he speak, 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:04.160 always got a kind We're always with the proper etiquets. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:09.560 Thank you, no, sir, yes, sir, Just look at the kids. Man. Yeah, 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.360 speaking of which they him and his wife were married 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.680 sixty something years. I think they had eight kids in 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:25.920 eight years, with no twins. Busy, busy, really cold winners 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:31.960 come back home. He waste no time. Yeah, you know. 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.760 An interesting tidbit I didn't know until probably a year 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.360 or two ago. I think it might have been when 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:40.240 I was watching the Deep Blue documentary. Was Jason and 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:44.320 Judd Judd that's in scouting now, played in an NFL 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:48.800 game together? Right? Yes? Yeah, he played fullback? I think, 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.280 is that right? He was a running back. It might 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.360 have been fullback, might have been tailback, yep. I think now. 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.280 Was it a preseason game or was it a regular 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:57.880 ship It may have been pre I think it was 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.040 preseason because I think Judd never was on the active roster. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:06.480 Yeah again, Nate may know Nah, yeah, to play? I mean, 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.840 you know, I don't know. I don't know. You know, sorry, 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.160 do Water mean the other night we did something for 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.480 the Cowboys up at the other night. Dude Waters send 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.040 me talking about you know, said said, play backup quarterback. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:24.440 I see Jason, nah, say, riding to Pete Nah. He 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.960 kept giving me his name. I said, let me tell 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:28.800 you something. This is this is the quickest way to 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.120 know something. I said, man, you know the guys you 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.120 a cowboy? Yeah, I know everybody sor right, So I 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.240 mentioned the names had never heard of. I told him, 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:42.240 do I see that's the end of that. Oh man, 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.760 Well Jim Garrett passed away over what was it Saturday night? 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.320 I think it was Friday, Friday night? And uh he 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.160 lived a great life. I mean, yeah, talk about a 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:55.520 life well spent. He was pitomized that. Yeah, go check 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.680 out that. Definitely check out the article and if you 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.719 get you get thirty minutes or so to watch the 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.240 that Deep Blue documentary. It's it's it's really interesting. So 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:09.960 you know, I look at people, man every day and 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.800 I watch folks and I feel bad for people that 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.400 just wake up every morning looking to see the world 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.960 be bad. Final read this, dude never did that. Every 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:26.440 time I summons to Garrett upbeat and that got to be. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.840 Everybody had problems, but you never certain people. You never know. 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:37.080 Here you go make gul wow, wow, wow wow, here's 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.640 someone that can actually speak to the subject we're talking 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:45.120 about with a lot of knowledge. We would like to 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:49.800 welcome to the show. Yes, the one put the one 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:53.360 that has the L on it on your left ear. No, 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.959 you're not used to wearing headsets. Wow, why you messing 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.080 with a girl? Man who would like to Welcome to 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:08.120 the show, Rocks the Fox medina. I told you no. Applause, Rosanne, 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.320 what's up? Nate has been wanting to get you on 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:15.480 this show. Simp believe she came on. Thank you asked me. 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.920 I did not want to, Okay, I was about to 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.840 kill Douglas. We know you're We know you're busy. Especially 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.600 even everybody asked what we do during the off season, 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.760 and they don't understand. We really don't, especially you guys 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.719 don't have an off season. So Rosanne, Nate's been trying 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:34.959 to get her on since ever. So she sits right 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.400 outside of our podcast studio. She is what is what 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.280 is your title? And tell people exactly what you do. 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.920 I am the senior editor and producer for the Dallas 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:49.000 Cowboys Broadcast Department, and I produce an edit the Jason 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:53.360 Garrett Show, and I do all the team highlight videos 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:57.280 and motivational videos for the team during the season UM 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:03.160 and then I produce with Kurt Um some Deep Blue documentaries. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:09.840 UM also do some preseason pregame shows produced those and 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.360 on game day I'm actually doing the videography for our 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.240 highlights for our broadcast. So on game day, you're on 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.680 the field. I'm on the field with the campus hurt 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.520 your back. Rocks may have more access than anybody in 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:27.679 the Yeah, she does every team meeting everything Shannon on 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.960 game days on the sideline, I suspect a lot. We 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.880 talk a lot on the sideline, distract her, I try 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.600 to get I have missed a couple of shots because 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.560 we was talking about mister Garrett. Jim Garrett. Do you 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:45.160 have any I mean, you know him, tell us something 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.640 about him to touch you. Um. I met mister Garrett 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:52.760 years ago when he was a scout here, and honestly, 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.840 I don't think he met anyone that was a stranger 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.839 to him. I mean, my first day I was an 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:04.600 intern in our little office area was a little closet 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.960 around the corner from the scouting department. So he sees 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.600 me walk in and he was like I was his 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.040 best friend on the first day of work. I mean 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:19.000 saying hi, asking about me, asking about my family, asking 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.280 where I was from, and then he'd tell a story 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:26.160 about his time in Ohio. I mean, he was a 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:31.280 really really special man and to this, you know, shortly 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.760 before he got ill. I was still in communication with 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.800 him because I had done a Deep Blue on him 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:42.760 and how Jason got to where he was today. So 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.640 we spent a lot of time at his house doing 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:50.000 interviews and with him and his family. So he was 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:54.520 a really really special man. Yes, you know when they 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.880 did break the mold, when they made him. You know, 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.120 he was one of a kind and he loved everyone 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.240 he came in contact with. Yeah, so if you go 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.599 watch the video we were talking about, I'd forgotten you 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.880 were the Yeah. Yeah, and his son jud was the 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.640 writer on it. So for some reason we just said, 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.640 why don't we just do the story. You write it, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:18.600 I'll I'll edit it and we'll come up with something great. 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.360 And I made him narrate it too, So it was 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.120 it was a It was a special It was a 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:27.400 special project, and it was one that probably my favorite 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.920 project that I was a part of because the day 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.280 we went to interview him, Um, we went to New Jersey. 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.480 We flew up there. Um we went there for a game. 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.680 I don't remember what week it was in New York, 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:45.280 but Scott Purcell and I drove from the airport the 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:49.400 charter site to New Jersey And when we knocked on 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.480 the door, there was like six guys that had worked 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.839 out in his backyard sitting there waiting to watch him 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:59.520 get interviewed and then to do an interview with us afterwards. Wow. 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.400 So it was I mean, they came from all over, 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.000 not from just New Jersey. They were coming from New York, 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.320 they were coming from Connecticut. They were coming from all 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:11.120 over to come and participate in the story of his life. 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.800 So that's what kind of man he was. It's awesome. 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:17.360 So how long have you been with the Cowboys since 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:22.760 nineteen ninety five? Wow? So you started when you were twelve? Yes, 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.400 all right. So and you have and like Kurt said, 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:30.320 you probably have more access than probably anyone in the building. 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:34.440 So you've become really close to Coach Garrett from being 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.360 in all the you shoot all the team meetings, you 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.440 shoot all the pregame speeches, you're in the locker room 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:43.640 for the postgame speeches, you do special projects, so you've 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:47.640 become really close to Coach Garrett. So you have Rocks 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:53.120 has Rocks has things that she cannot speak about you 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.320 things I have seen. I've been in every meeting for 0:14:56.360 --> 0:15:02.400 the last four years. I believe, and it's it's pretty interesting. 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.440 I mean, I would think I know a little bit 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.440 more about the xs and os and the routes and 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:09.000 stuff like that, but I still don't understand what they're 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.800 talking about. But you know, what's amazing if I've seen 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.640 some of her work that she's done behind closed doors 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:17.400 and some of the speeches and some of the things 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.000 that Coach Garrett has said, you know, like you said, 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.360 she can't talk about it, you know, and it's just amazing. 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.560 It's amazing that you know, one day, you know, whether 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.200 things trying out good for Coach Garrett a bad or whatever, 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.600 and he gonna he gonna have you, he gonna have 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.240 to come here, say do my book right, Yeah, because 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:41.120 she knows right, you know, and An has it documented. Yeah, 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.360 and I have to get Kurt to actually write it 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.280 for But let me tell you what's amazing and what 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:51.200 really well just really outsided pushing big when we had 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:55.440 my man was my guy, Todd Todd Williams. Todd Williams, 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:00.880 and you told you told everybody, hey, be ready to 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:02.640 do anything if you asked to be a part of 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.200 this program. Tell them how you had, how you got 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:09.440 to your car and drove to film the Dallas Cowboys 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.560 when you first started. Yeah, I see, I don't even know. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.960 How did you remember that? Yeah? Yeah, how did you 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.200 get your start with the Yeah? It was actually pretty 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:23.920 interesting and it goes around to publications. The publications department 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:28.160 was looking for part time data entry people, and I was, 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.640 you know, looking for any job I could. Back in 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.080 nineteen ninety five, I'm just trying to get I'm not 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.080 from Texas, I'm from Ohio. So I'm just trying to 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:41.120 get work and work or work in sports or just work. Okay, 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.920 M huge Dallas Cowboys fan. Coming from Ohio, huge Dallas 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:48.280 Cowboys fan. I thought, why not? You know, all they 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:52.560 can do is say no. So um my resume unfortunately 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:59.120 didn't reflect data entry. It reflected broadcast. So I had done, 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.840 you know, I'd gone to an art school. I had, 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.880 you know, done all these internships during school. I've done 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:10.480 all these broadcast projects and I was, you know, everything 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:14.080 on there said you know television, this broadcast, that camera worked, 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.879 this and all that. Well, they called me and said, 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.639 we can give you this data entry job, but we 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:25.439 have this internship. It's free, you don't get paid, but 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.760 it's experienced you know, get you you know, in the 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.000 door here if you'd like it. And I was like, absolutely, 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.280 I don't need money. I'll sleep on this couch for 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.360 another six months. I can do that. And I came 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.119 in and interviewed with John Chang, who was the boss 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:46.000 at that time, and you know, he let me come 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.440 in the door and he he didn't have to teach 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.399 me much editing or you know, anything about the cameras 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.240 because I had come from a pretty intensive on hand 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:59.119 you know, in you know, hands on program and I 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:02.000 didn't have to worry about, you know, asking a lot 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.840 of questions. So he appreciated that. My first, you know, 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.240 first week, I was you know, on a sideline in 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.000 the game and I was just in shock that I 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.439 was there. And the first person I had to follow 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.400 around to get to his proper spot in the postgame 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.080 show was Troy Aikman. So after that, you know what 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:26.399 what's left Nate Newton. So we had you know, some 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.520 pretty good year, you know, pretty good year and you know, 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.200 going to the playoffs and you know, I'm sorry, you're 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.120 an intern. You can't really come with us. Okay, Um, 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.320 what if I drove there? If you drive there, you 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.359 can come well, you know, I don't need a place 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.000 to stay. My uncle lives there. I was like, well, then, 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:49.159 come on, So I drove. I started probably two days before, 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.720 and you know, made a little visit to my uncle 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.960 and Bowl. No it was not the Super Bowl. Was 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.879 a playoff game in Carolina. Yeah. Yeah, playoff game in Carolina, 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.200 and I didn't get to go to the Super Bowl. Hey, 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:07.880 hey we got knocked out. They broke Beyon I that's right, 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.840 Michael got injured in Yeah, they broke up our best players. 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.280 But Nate's a huge road trip fan, and so that 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:19.239 forever endeared Rocks in his heart. Yeah, well did it 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.800 for you? Like I knew that? But no, I totally 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:24.560 didn't know. I just wanted to because I didn't know 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:26.120 if I was going to be here again next year. 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.119 So I wanted to take the opportunity and you know, 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.920 get myself there if I could, and you know, experience 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:37.240 a playoff football game on the road. Yeah. So who knew. 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:39.120 I didn't know I was going to be there next year. 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.119 And the only reason why I was was because the 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:45.320 intern they had they needed more help. Ye not saying 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.840 anything bad about that intern that they had the year after, 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:49.879 but they needed more help, so they called me back 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:52.800 and that was the only reason I was there. So 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:55.920 another case of for all of you people that asked 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.840 how we get into sports, we do what we do 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:02.919 because we love it, and we do it whenever we 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.440 can and do whatever you can to to just chip in, 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:08.680 like you have to drive. You know. We were talking 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.720 about how Todd was an intern and he was putting 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.600 tenfold on windows and training camp to here. Then we 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:18.280 started at the same time. Did you really this job's 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.680 a little bit better and more. Yeah, we started at 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.760 the same time. That's debatable, Rocks. I don't, Oh, well, 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:26.640 this is true. I guess it depends on who you ask. 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:28.720 So let me ask you this. So you since you 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.000 do so much with the team and the behind the 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.879 scenes thing. I think the one thing, one thing that 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:38.439 surprises me most about Coach Garrett is how awesome of 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.200 a speaker he is, Oh incredible, And we've we've been 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:43.159 fortunate enough when he'll speak at our State of the 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.280 Union that we have to all the employees like once 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:47.920 a year, and we've been in a couple of meetings 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.359 that have been like just team functions where he tells 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:55.800 he tells the most amazing stories and it's people think 0:20:55.840 --> 0:21:00.280 he's a robot, but yeah, but he's. Yeah. So what's 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:04.119 something that you can talk about and that surprises you 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:06.240 or that people you think will be surprised to know about? 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.160 Coach Garrett He's funny. I know that people don't see 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.840 a lot of that, but he's he's really funny. And 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.400 the most the most amazing times are on Friday afternoons 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:22.879 doing the team videos together. It's you know, me, his assistant, 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:27.359 Steve Brown, and Chad Bowing, the mental conditioning coach. We 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.160 we all sit in my little edit suite for four 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:36.520 hours on Fridays and just you know, go through whatever 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:39.640 it is to try to get this video to go 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.720 with along with the speech that he has in mind. 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:43.400 And coaches in there with you. Coach is in there 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:45.360 with us. So the four of you sitting there at 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.359 your workstation and putting together a video. Yeah, and he'll 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.360 go off on the most random things. It's like we're 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.399 sitting there and we'll have this piece in there about 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:58.320 you know, you know, maybe Derek Jeter is talking about 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:03.720 this great motivational part of his life and he'll say, 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.480 was Derek Jeter the best player ever? And you know, 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:11.280 the history of baseball, and then and then he'll go off, 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:13.080 and then they'll go on again and again again, and 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.560 then he'll go who is who's the best picture of 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:18.080 this time? I mean, we're trying to finish this video 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:22.199 on a Friday afternoon. I want to go home. As 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:24.560 four o'clock, we're still you know, he's he you know, 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.960 he's probably gonna and then it will start get so 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:29.879 and so on the phone. See who he thinks is 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:35.159 like what I mean, and so he's he's a pretty 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:37.600 fun guy. But his speech is you know, to the 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:40.480 team day before, I mean, I want to go out 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:43.399 there and hit somebody. I mean, they're they're really good 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:47.680 and and it's amazing to me how we do these 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:51.000 random videos that we have these you know, we'll start 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:53.119 on a Monday, We'll get him to prove it on 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.080 a Friday, and we'll make the changes on that day. 0:22:56.400 --> 0:23:00.159 And then you know, the speech that he gives right 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:03.280 before he shows it, you know, is seamless to it. 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:06.200 And it could start he could start talking about Kurt 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.800 at the beginning of it in a story that he did, 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:11.439 and it will come out and it's, you know, the 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:13.280 most amazing thing and you want to go out and 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:19.240 hit somebody. So he is. He presents himself in each 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:24.960