Speaker 1: Before listening, ask good doctor, if your heart is healthy
Speaker 1: enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's hanging with the Boys,
Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star
Speaker 1: in Frisco. Now your host Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross good Man Monday. Wow. Wow, Kurt sounds like crap,
Speaker 1: but he looks good, I hope, so it don't feel
Speaker 1: too bad. Boys a little frog, he's got his he's
Speaker 1: got a strip club DJ Boys James rynnolds Uh sent
Speaker 1: me a Twitter message last week, why because the Eagle needed?
Speaker 1: What's up, Nate? You demand Nate's writing something. We are
Speaker 1: We got a new setup here. This is weird because
Speaker 1: now on that monitor in the corner, look it's delayed.
Speaker 1: Who I don't know if I like the monitor in
Speaker 1: the corner that shows the show. And then we're getting fancy.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna show some video clips now starting
Speaker 1: on some of our shows, and we'll be able to
Speaker 1: see those over in the corner. So we get we're
Speaker 1: getting high tech. We're getting produced, right Douglas. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the good people in our TV production department, I know,
Speaker 1: Dave and Kent, Dave, Ernest and Kent is back there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who who? Who will be? Caden is going to provide
Speaker 1: us with some highlights so they Cayden in searched the videos.
Speaker 1: He does as far as I know. And there are
Speaker 1: others back there, and I'll get a complete list so
Speaker 1: that we can thank them appropriately. Yeah, that'd be great. Wow, man,
Speaker 1: I'd be great. No, No, I'm to do the credits
Speaker 1: at the end of the show. The show I should have. Wow. Man,
Speaker 1: how did y'all feel first weekend without football? You guys? Okay?
Speaker 1: The Olympics help ease the football angst. I watched little Olympics,
Speaker 1: actually went to the man. The game you got out
Speaker 1: in public? Wow? No, whether you're sick for once? Nice?
Speaker 1: You go the Lakers game? Yeah yeah? Or saw the
Speaker 1: Nate's favorite player, Isaiah Thomas playing there. Let me say this,
Speaker 1: my friend. Uh, but I enjoyed my weekend without football. Man.
Speaker 1: I watched basketball on TV. Now I'm gonna get more
Speaker 1: into the college scene of basketball, and I enjoyed. Man.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's all about the draft now. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: can look forward to the draft. Now we can look
Speaker 1: at the draft. I don't know if we can look
Speaker 1: forward to it. I just want to know who we're
Speaker 1: gonna get. We have a we have a special treat today.
Speaker 1: We have a toll free phone line now here at
Speaker 1: the Star. Will you answer it? I mean, for three
Speaker 1: weeks you've been talking about now. I don't think anybody's called.
Speaker 1: It's a little early for our normal crowd. I don't
Speaker 1: think they're used to us being on a way. No,
Speaker 1: they're not awake, but we'll try to call us. Eight
Speaker 1: eight eight what's the show? Two two nine secs. Look
Speaker 1: at that and they can read it on the screen.
Speaker 1: About that, call us, it's on the screen. We would
Speaker 1: love to hear what's on your mind hanging with the
Speaker 1: boys this offseason? So we have we got a little
Speaker 1: bit of little little bit of bad news over the weekend.
Speaker 1: What was that Coach Garrett's father passed away. Jim Garrett,
Speaker 1: a long time scout for the Cowboys. Kurt. Uh, you
Speaker 1: guys had a little bit to do help? Uh, you
Speaker 1: had an article on it or something. Yeah, we actually
Speaker 1: ran a documentary about Jim and Jason just a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. It's back up on the site now,
Speaker 1: or it's featured on the site now if you want
Speaker 1: to check it out. It's very cool. Um. We also,
Speaker 1: Jeff Sullivan, one of our long time freelance guys here,
Speaker 1: had been up to interview Jim. He went up there
Speaker 1: once and interviewed him in person a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago when Jim's health was already kind of failing, had
Speaker 1: a chance to sit down him down with him, talk
Speaker 1: to him for quite a while, and then it's also
Speaker 1: had a few phone conversations with him. He wrote a
Speaker 1: great kind of tribute to Jim on the website. I
Speaker 1: would definitely check that out, Jeff Sullivan's article on it,
Speaker 1: so it's very nice. And Jim had an amazing life.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how much, Nate, if you
Speaker 1: guys crossed path much here when in the nineties, but
Speaker 1: Jim was a scout here for thirty something years and
Speaker 1: I had some pretty interesting stories. It sounds like, yeah,
Speaker 1: scouted scout Troy or Emmett one of those guys, right,
Speaker 1: because if you do the tour up here and right
Speaker 1: outside of scouting, they have the actual original handwritten sheets.
Speaker 1: And I believe Jim Garrett was on I know one
Speaker 1: of those guys. Yeah, I think it was aikman, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean he scouted everybody but that was one
Speaker 1: of his big ones, was Aikman, but he was. One
Speaker 1: of his famous stories was he was big on Randy
Speaker 1: Moss and in the scouting uh, you know, guys get
Speaker 1: together and talk about players. I think at the time
Speaker 1: head coach chan Gailey didn't want the potential headaches and
Speaker 1: Moss you might remember Nate and I think mister Jones
Speaker 1: didn't really want to go down that road either because, uh,
Speaker 1: some of the things with Michael Irvin going on at
Speaker 1: the time. But Jim supposedly got on the table and said,
Speaker 1: you know, this is the NFL, this is not the
Speaker 1: Boy Scouts, and it was like demanding that we draft Moss,
Speaker 1: and obviously we didn't and the rest is history show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame now, So, um, that was one we
Speaker 1: kind of wished Jim had been right on, but he
Speaker 1: was right. We wish he'd been able to talk him
Speaker 1: into it. So yeah, that documentary is the documentary in
Speaker 1: the article as well. Um, I don't believe it's part
Speaker 1: of the documentaries on the front page of the of
Speaker 1: the website. Yeah, that's an interesting, interesting watch. You know
Speaker 1: how he mentored kids even even after he got out
Speaker 1: of got out of scouting. Yeah, bring him to his
Speaker 1: house and yeah, the Miles Awesome was Miles Awesome was
Speaker 1: from the area up there in New Jersey where Jim
Speaker 1: Garrett was, and Jim Garrett actually worked him out in
Speaker 1: his backyard basically, and uh, it was kind of the
Speaker 1: key person to get Miles signed. So that turned up
Speaker 1: pretty well. You know what's amazing. I tell people all
Speaker 1: the football stuff, that's that's great, you know, and I
Speaker 1: tell people that all of that. But when I when
Speaker 1: I ran across mister Garrett, he was always a gentleman.
Speaker 1: I always had nice things to say. And I tell
Speaker 1: people this ain't always the case. And I told Douglas
Speaker 1: to send it back. It ain't always the case. But
Speaker 1: I said, if you really want to know what a
Speaker 1: man and a woman about, look at the kids. Look
Speaker 1: at the kids. And it ain't always the case. But
Speaker 1: look at look at look at the kids. And you
Speaker 1: look at John. I mean you look at it one
Speaker 1: in scout and you look at Jason, gentleman all he speak,
Speaker 1: always got a kind We're always with the proper etiquets.
Speaker 1: Thank you, no, sir, yes, sir, Just look at the kids. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of which they him and his wife were married
Speaker 1: sixty something years. I think they had eight kids in
Speaker 1: eight years, with no twins. Busy, busy, really cold winners
Speaker 1: come back home. He waste no time. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: An interesting tidbit I didn't know until probably a year
Speaker 1: or two ago. I think it might have been when
Speaker 1: I was watching the Deep Blue documentary. Was Jason and
Speaker 1: Judd Judd that's in scouting now, played in an NFL
Speaker 1: game together? Right? Yes? Yeah, he played fullback? I think,
Speaker 1: is that right? He was a running back. It might
Speaker 1: have been fullback, might have been tailback, yep. I think now.
Speaker 1: Was it a preseason game or was it a regular
Speaker 1: ship It may have been pre I think it was
Speaker 1: preseason because I think Judd never was on the active roster.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, Nate may know Nah, yeah, to play? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I don't know. You know, sorry,
Speaker 1: do Water mean the other night we did something for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys up at the other night. Dude Waters send
Speaker 1: me talking about you know, said said, play backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: I see Jason, nah, say, riding to Pete Nah. He
Speaker 1: kept giving me his name. I said, let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. This is this is the quickest way to
Speaker 1: know something. I said, man, you know the guys you
Speaker 1: a cowboy? Yeah, I know everybody sor right, So I
Speaker 1: mentioned the names had never heard of. I told him,
Speaker 1: do I see that's the end of that. Oh man,
Speaker 1: Well Jim Garrett passed away over what was it Saturday night?
Speaker 1: I think it was Friday, Friday night? And uh he
Speaker 1: lived a great life. I mean, yeah, talk about a
Speaker 1: life well spent. He was pitomized that. Yeah, go check
Speaker 1: out that. Definitely check out the article and if you
Speaker 1: get you get thirty minutes or so to watch the
Speaker 1: that Deep Blue documentary. It's it's it's really interesting. So
Speaker 1: you know, I look at people, man every day and
Speaker 1: I watch folks and I feel bad for people that
Speaker 1: just wake up every morning looking to see the world
Speaker 1: be bad. Final read this, dude never did that. Every
Speaker 1: time I summons to Garrett upbeat and that got to be.
Speaker 1: Everybody had problems, but you never certain people. You never know.
Speaker 1: Here you go make gul wow, wow, wow wow, here's
Speaker 1: someone that can actually speak to the subject we're talking
Speaker 1: about with a lot of knowledge. We would like to
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Yes, the one put the one
Speaker 1: that has the L on it on your left ear. No,
Speaker 1: you're not used to wearing headsets. Wow, why you messing
Speaker 1: with a girl? Man who would like to Welcome to
Speaker 1: the show, Rocks the Fox medina. I told you no. Applause, Rosanne,
Speaker 1: what's up? Nate has been wanting to get you on
Speaker 1: this show. Simp believe she came on. Thank you asked me.
Speaker 1: I did not want to, Okay, I was about to
Speaker 1: kill Douglas. We know you're We know you're busy. Especially
Speaker 1: even everybody asked what we do during the off season,
Speaker 1: and they don't understand. We really don't, especially you guys
Speaker 1: don't have an off season. So Rosanne, Nate's been trying
Speaker 1: to get her on since ever. So she sits right
Speaker 1: outside of our podcast studio. She is what is what
Speaker 1: is your title? And tell people exactly what you do.
Speaker 1: I am the senior editor and producer for the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys Broadcast Department, and I produce an edit the Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett Show, and I do all the team highlight videos
Speaker 1: and motivational videos for the team during the season UM
Speaker 1: and then I produce with Kurt Um some Deep Blue documentaries.
Speaker 1: UM also do some preseason pregame shows produced those and
Speaker 1: on game day I'm actually doing the videography for our
Speaker 1: highlights for our broadcast. So on game day, you're on
Speaker 1: the field. I'm on the field with the campus hurt
Speaker 1: your back. Rocks may have more access than anybody in
Speaker 1: the Yeah, she does every team meeting everything Shannon on
Speaker 1: game days on the sideline, I suspect a lot. We
Speaker 1: talk a lot on the sideline, distract her, I try
Speaker 1: to get I have missed a couple of shots because
Speaker 1: we was talking about mister Garrett. Jim Garrett. Do you
Speaker 1: have any I mean, you know him, tell us something
Speaker 1: about him to touch you. Um. I met mister Garrett
Speaker 1: years ago when he was a scout here, and honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't think he met anyone that was a stranger
Speaker 1: to him. I mean, my first day I was an
Speaker 1: intern in our little office area was a little closet
Speaker 1: around the corner from the scouting department. So he sees
Speaker 1: me walk in and he was like I was his
Speaker 1: best friend on the first day of work. I mean
Speaker 1: saying hi, asking about me, asking about my family, asking
Speaker 1: where I was from, and then he'd tell a story
Speaker 1: about his time in Ohio. I mean, he was a
Speaker 1: really really special man and to this, you know, shortly
Speaker 1: before he got ill. I was still in communication with
Speaker 1: him because I had done a Deep Blue on him
Speaker 1: and how Jason got to where he was today. So
Speaker 1: we spent a lot of time at his house doing
Speaker 1: interviews and with him and his family. So he was
Speaker 1: a really really special man. Yes, you know when they
Speaker 1: did break the mold, when they made him. You know,
Speaker 1: he was one of a kind and he loved everyone
Speaker 1: he came in contact with. Yeah, so if you go
Speaker 1: watch the video we were talking about, I'd forgotten you
Speaker 1: were the Yeah. Yeah, and his son jud was the
Speaker 1: writer on it. So for some reason we just said,
Speaker 1: why don't we just do the story. You write it,
Speaker 1: I'll I'll edit it and we'll come up with something great.
Speaker 1: And I made him narrate it too, So it was
Speaker 1: it was a It was a special It was a
Speaker 1: special project, and it was one that probably my favorite
Speaker 1: project that I was a part of because the day
Speaker 1: we went to interview him, Um, we went to New Jersey.
Speaker 1: We flew up there. Um we went there for a game.
Speaker 1: I don't remember what week it was in New York,
Speaker 1: but Scott Purcell and I drove from the airport the
Speaker 1: charter site to New Jersey And when we knocked on
Speaker 1: the door, there was like six guys that had worked
Speaker 1: out in his backyard sitting there waiting to watch him
Speaker 1: get interviewed and then to do an interview with us afterwards. Wow.
Speaker 1: So it was I mean, they came from all over,
Speaker 1: not from just New Jersey. They were coming from New York,
Speaker 1: they were coming from Connecticut. They were coming from all
Speaker 1: over to come and participate in the story of his life.
Speaker 1: So that's what kind of man he was. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: So how long have you been with the Cowboys since
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five? Wow? So you started when you were twelve? Yes,
Speaker 1: all right. So and you have and like Kurt said,
Speaker 1: you probably have more access than probably anyone in the building.
Speaker 1: So you've become really close to Coach Garrett from being
Speaker 1: in all the you shoot all the team meetings, you
Speaker 1: shoot all the pregame speeches, you're in the locker room
Speaker 1: for the postgame speeches, you do special projects, so you've
Speaker 1: become really close to Coach Garrett. So you have Rocks
Speaker 1: has Rocks has things that she cannot speak about you
Speaker 1: things I have seen. I've been in every meeting for
Speaker 1: the last four years. I believe, and it's it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would think I know a little bit
Speaker 1: more about the xs and os and the routes and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but I still don't understand what they're
Speaker 1: talking about. But you know, what's amazing if I've seen
Speaker 1: some of her work that she's done behind closed doors
Speaker 1: and some of the speeches and some of the things
Speaker 1: that Coach Garrett has said, you know, like you said,
Speaker 1: she can't talk about it, you know, and it's just amazing.
Speaker 1: It's amazing that you know, one day, you know, whether
Speaker 1: things trying out good for Coach Garrett a bad or whatever,
Speaker 1: and he gonna he gonna have you, he gonna have
Speaker 1: to come here, say do my book right, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: she knows right, you know, and An has it documented. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I have to get Kurt to actually write it
Speaker 1: for But let me tell you what's amazing and what
Speaker 1: really well just really outsided pushing big when we had
Speaker 1: my man was my guy, Todd Todd Williams. Todd Williams,
Speaker 1: and you told you told everybody, hey, be ready to
Speaker 1: do anything if you asked to be a part of
Speaker 1: this program. Tell them how you had, how you got
Speaker 1: to your car and drove to film the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: when you first started. Yeah, I see, I don't even know.
Speaker 1: How did you remember that? Yeah? Yeah, how did you
Speaker 1: get your start with the Yeah? It was actually pretty
Speaker 1: interesting and it goes around to publications. The publications department
Speaker 1: was looking for part time data entry people, and I was,
Speaker 1: you know, looking for any job I could. Back in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, I'm just trying to get I'm not
Speaker 1: from Texas, I'm from Ohio. So I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: get work and work or work in sports or just work. Okay,
Speaker 1: M huge Dallas Cowboys fan. Coming from Ohio, huge Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan. I thought, why not? You know, all they
Speaker 1: can do is say no. So um my resume unfortunately
Speaker 1: didn't reflect data entry. It reflected broadcast. So I had done,
Speaker 1: you know, I'd gone to an art school. I had,
Speaker 1: you know, done all these internships during school. I've done
Speaker 1: all these broadcast projects and I was, you know, everything
Speaker 1: on there said you know television, this broadcast, that camera worked,
Speaker 1: this and all that. Well, they called me and said,
Speaker 1: we can give you this data entry job, but we
Speaker 1: have this internship. It's free, you don't get paid, but
Speaker 1: it's experienced you know, get you you know, in the
Speaker 1: door here if you'd like it. And I was like, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I don't need money. I'll sleep on this couch for
Speaker 1: another six months. I can do that. And I came
Speaker 1: in and interviewed with John Chang, who was the boss
Speaker 1: at that time, and you know, he let me come
Speaker 1: in the door and he he didn't have to teach
Speaker 1: me much editing or you know, anything about the cameras
Speaker 1: because I had come from a pretty intensive on hand
Speaker 1: you know, in you know, hands on program and I
Speaker 1: didn't have to worry about, you know, asking a lot
Speaker 1: of questions. So he appreciated that. My first, you know,
Speaker 1: first week, I was you know, on a sideline in
Speaker 1: the game and I was just in shock that I
Speaker 1: was there. And the first person I had to follow
Speaker 1: around to get to his proper spot in the postgame
Speaker 1: show was Troy Aikman. So after that, you know what
Speaker 1: what's left Nate Newton. So we had you know, some
Speaker 1: pretty good year, you know, pretty good year and you know,
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs and you know, I'm sorry, you're
Speaker 1: an intern. You can't really come with us. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: what if I drove there? If you drive there, you
Speaker 1: can come well, you know, I don't need a place
Speaker 1: to stay. My uncle lives there. I was like, well, then,
Speaker 1: come on, So I drove. I started probably two days before,
Speaker 1: and you know, made a little visit to my uncle
Speaker 1: and Bowl. No it was not the Super Bowl. Was
Speaker 1: a playoff game in Carolina. Yeah. Yeah, playoff game in Carolina,
Speaker 1: and I didn't get to go to the Super Bowl. Hey,
Speaker 1: hey we got knocked out. They broke Beyon I that's right,
Speaker 1: Michael got injured in Yeah, they broke up our best players.
Speaker 1: But Nate's a huge road trip fan, and so that
Speaker 1: forever endeared Rocks in his heart. Yeah, well did it
Speaker 1: for you? Like I knew that? But no, I totally
Speaker 1: didn't know. I just wanted to because I didn't know
Speaker 1: if I was going to be here again next year.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to take the opportunity and you know,
Speaker 1: get myself there if I could, and you know, experience
Speaker 1: a playoff football game on the road. Yeah. So who knew.
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was going to be there next year.
Speaker 1: And the only reason why I was was because the
Speaker 1: intern they had they needed more help. Ye not saying
Speaker 1: anything bad about that intern that they had the year after,
Speaker 1: but they needed more help, so they called me back
Speaker 1: and that was the only reason I was there. So
Speaker 1: another case of for all of you people that asked
Speaker 1: how we get into sports, we do what we do
Speaker 1: because we love it, and we do it whenever we
Speaker 1: can and do whatever you can to to just chip in,
Speaker 1: like you have to drive. You know. We were talking
Speaker 1: about how Todd was an intern and he was putting
Speaker 1: tenfold on windows and training camp to here. Then we
Speaker 1: started at the same time. Did you really this job's
Speaker 1: a little bit better and more. Yeah, we started at
Speaker 1: the same time. That's debatable, Rocks. I don't, Oh, well,
Speaker 1: this is true. I guess it depends on who you ask.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. So you since you
Speaker 1: do so much with the team and the behind the
Speaker 1: scenes thing. I think the one thing, one thing that
Speaker 1: surprises me most about Coach Garrett is how awesome of
Speaker 1: a speaker he is, Oh incredible, And we've we've been
Speaker 1: fortunate enough when he'll speak at our State of the
Speaker 1: Union that we have to all the employees like once
Speaker 1: a year, and we've been in a couple of meetings
Speaker 1: that have been like just team functions where he tells
Speaker 1: he tells the most amazing stories and it's people think
Speaker 1: he's a robot, but yeah, but he's. Yeah. So what's
Speaker 1: something that you can talk about and that surprises you
Speaker 1: or that people you think will be surprised to know about?
Speaker 1: Coach Garrett He's funny. I know that people don't see
Speaker 1: a lot of that, but he's he's really funny. And
Speaker 1: the most the most amazing times are on Friday afternoons
Speaker 1: doing the team videos together. It's you know, me, his assistant,
Speaker 1: Steve Brown, and Chad Bowing, the mental conditioning coach. We
Speaker 1: we all sit in my little edit suite for four
Speaker 1: hours on Fridays and just you know, go through whatever
Speaker 1: it is to try to get this video to go
Speaker 1: with along with the speech that he has in mind.
Speaker 1: And coaches in there with you. Coach is in there
Speaker 1: with us. So the four of you sitting there at
Speaker 1: your workstation and putting together a video. Yeah, and he'll
Speaker 1: go off on the most random things. It's like we're
Speaker 1: sitting there and we'll have this piece in there about
Speaker 1: you know, you know, maybe Derek Jeter is talking about
Speaker 1: this great motivational part of his life and he'll say,
Speaker 1: was Derek Jeter the best player ever? And you know,
Speaker 1: the history of baseball, and then and then he'll go off,
Speaker 1: and then they'll go on again and again again, and
Speaker 1: then he'll go who is who's the best picture of
Speaker 1: this time? I mean, we're trying to finish this video
Speaker 1: on a Friday afternoon. I want to go home. As
Speaker 1: four o'clock, we're still you know, he's he you know,
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna and then it will start get so
Speaker 1: and so on the phone. See who he thinks is
Speaker 1: like what I mean, and so he's he's a pretty
Speaker 1: fun guy. But his speech is you know, to the
Speaker 1: team day before, I mean, I want to go out
Speaker 1: there and hit somebody. I mean, they're they're really good
Speaker 1: and and it's amazing to me how we do these
Speaker 1: random videos that we have these you know, we'll start
Speaker 1: on a Monday, We'll get him to prove it on
Speaker 1: a Friday, and we'll make the changes on that day.
Speaker 1: And then you know, the speech that he gives right
Speaker 1: before he shows it, you know, is seamless to it.
Speaker 1: And it could start he could start talking about Kurt
Speaker 1: at the beginning of it in a story that he did,
Speaker 1: and it will come out and it's, you know, the
Speaker 1: most amazing thing and you want to go out and
Speaker 1: hit somebody. So he is. He presents himself in each
Speaker 1: environment appropriately. So when he's doing a press conference, he
Speaker 1: presents himself as sort of a corporate representative of the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But when he's a football coach in the locker room,
Speaker 1: he's as football of a football coach, dripping with everything
Speaker 1: you think about as there would be, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's profanity, there's he doesn't cuss. Yeah, come on, this
Speaker 1: is football. They don't cuss in football. Yeah yeah, but
Speaker 1: like you said, he lets his hair down, so to
Speaker 1: speak for a guy what it was. And I've never
Speaker 1: seen anybody love his team as much as he does.
Speaker 1: You know, he has true compassion and love for his
Speaker 1: players and the people around him. I mean he's the
Speaker 1: guy that wants to go and shake hands with everyone
Speaker 1: in the training table. He wants to do his little
Speaker 1: walk around the building to say hi to people. So
Speaker 1: that's his dad. Yeah, that that is definitely his dad. Dad,
Speaker 1: same way. Always had a kind where it always has
Speaker 1: something to say. Like you said, when he first met Rocks,
Speaker 1: he wanted to know everything cause years down the road
Speaker 1: he gonna hey, I remember, yeah, absolutely yeah, And he
Speaker 1: says hi to everyone he passes by. And I believe
Speaker 1: I heard that he learned that from he learned that
Speaker 1: from somebody that to always think Jimmy. Think it was Jimmy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Jimmy told him to. As the head coach
Speaker 1: of an organization, you need to be highly aware of
Speaker 1: how people perceive you, and you need to you know,
Speaker 1: reach out your hand towards them in you know, in
Speaker 1: any situation in the hallway, stuff like that. Yep, yep,
Speaker 1: I bet he does it more than Jimmy did it.
Speaker 1: You think probably, Well, Rocks, this was awesome. When to
Speaker 1: get them more often? Because I'm just finding dog my
Speaker 1: coach man, you off there, can't you? Dog coach Johnson?
Speaker 1: Man you off there? You kicking Dougles off the show?
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, I got that, little sad Rocks. How
Speaker 1: are your producing skills because we need a producer because
Speaker 1: they just fired Douglas. I can I can get some money?
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. We're gonna take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll be back with more hanging with the boys.
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Speaker 1: Back to hang in with the boards back at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. It is Monday. It's Monday. Thanks again
Speaker 1: to Rosam Medita. That was awesome, very cool. Yeah. Ro
Speaker 1: And for those of you guys that don't know. Rock
Speaker 1: sand does not like to talk. Oh, I'm shocked, you
Speaker 1: guys got her own. She does not like to leave
Speaker 1: her office and for Nate to actually talk for you off.
Speaker 1: I think we bombarded her, Douglas, I just wanted us
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Speaker 1: the head coach. She got a bud with the head coach.
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Speaker 1: he says, And he can be himself totally let their buddy. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: trying to get her to say that, he cusses, No way,
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett cusses, Douglas. Could you kidding me? I could
Speaker 1: be wrong? Maybe I misheard. Rocks has been nominated for
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Speaker 1: actually win one. But it's just to be in the
Speaker 1: final three or four is I mean that's amazing. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like in that preseason stuff, you know when she reducing
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Speaker 1: a nice job, Herd dave Man. They do a great
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Speaker 1: and in Rockx's case, to work for free. So it's
Speaker 1: it's that's so interesting to hear how everybody got started
Speaker 1: because everybody, like Rocks was applying for a data entry job.
Speaker 1: And now she's, you know, one of the best video
Speaker 1: videographers and editors that we have. She she does coach
Speaker 1: Garrett's you know, locker room speech, and now she's working
Speaker 1: on Deep Blue documentaries and things. So, like we said,
Speaker 1: do what you do, what you gotta do to get
Speaker 1: your foot in the door, and everything else takes care
Speaker 1: of itself with hard work. Speaking of hard work, I
Speaker 1: did some hard work for this segment. No way I did.
Speaker 1: But I don't really I don't even understand what I'm
Speaker 1: about to read. I'm going to read. So Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: was named number one in something that if you would
Speaker 1: have given me a list of about fifty things this year,
Speaker 1: this probably would have been the bottom five of my
Speaker 1: list that he would have been ranked number one. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to make sense of this, and then
Speaker 1: you guys jump in and tell me how I explained
Speaker 1: it wrong. So next Gen Stats came out with a
Speaker 1: a ranking UM that the qualifiers for this ranking were
Speaker 1: UM they define a it's a tight window throw ranking,
Speaker 1: so they define a tight window throw as a throw
Speaker 1: where the intended receiver had less than a yard of
Speaker 1: separation from the defender. Um Also, to qualify for this,
Speaker 1: the average quarterback through eighteen points six percent of his
Speaker 1: passes into a tight window over the last two seasons,
Speaker 1: and only quarterbacks with over two hundred pass attempts seven
Speaker 1: plus games played in twenty seventeen qualified for this list,
Speaker 1: which is a total of thirty five players. The ranking
Speaker 1: was established by the quarterbacks among the thirty five qualifiers
Speaker 1: who had the best rankings in the following three categories,
Speaker 1: completion rate on tight window throws, passer rating on tight
Speaker 1: window throws, and adjusted yards per attempt on tight window throws.
Speaker 1: So your number one ranked tight window throw quarterback. Let
Speaker 1: me let me you know. Let me give you the
Speaker 1: top five. Number five was Ben Roethlisberger. His score was
Speaker 1: twenty four, and the lower of the score the better.
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger was five with a score of twenty four with
Speaker 1: a score of twenty one. At four was Alex Smith.
Speaker 1: At number three with a score of ten was case
Speaker 1: keenum Number two was Matthew Stafford with the seven and
Speaker 1: your Dak Prescott of the Dallas Cowboys scored a six.
Speaker 1: I was shocked, saw her. I was shocked too. Here's
Speaker 1: what NFL dot Com had to say. His completion percentage
Speaker 1: in tight window throws was forty five point eight, which
Speaker 1: was first, his passer rating was eighty two point one,
Speaker 1: which was first, and his adjusted yards per attempt were
Speaker 1: six point two three, which was fourth. The Cowboys floundered
Speaker 1: to a nine and seven record and missed the playoffs
Speaker 1: one year after looking like a franchise on the brink
Speaker 1: of sustained greatness. A pair of rookies where the catalyst
Speaker 1: to Dallas's thirteen and three run in twenty sixteen. While
Speaker 1: one of those players, running back Ezekiel Elliott, last six
Speaker 1: games to suspension, the other, Prescott, took a step back
Speaker 1: on the field after a marvelously efficient inaugural NFL campaign. However,
Speaker 1: Prescott's placement at the top of these rankings should help
Speaker 1: the Cowboys faith will retain some optimism. He was hyper
Speaker 1: accurate when thrown into tight windows in twenty seventeen, leading
Speaker 1: qualifying passers in completion percentage and passer rating. Prescott actually
Speaker 1: proved his completion rate from his rookie year forty two
Speaker 1: point seven percent on a similar number of attempts ninety
Speaker 1: to ninety six. Wow, what do you guys think about that?
Speaker 1: What does that tell you anything? Or is this just
Speaker 1: like it's football becoming baseball to where they're making up
Speaker 1: stats for everything, or is this like a useful, useful
Speaker 1: stat you know, I just being honest with you, man,
Speaker 1: it sounds better if you if you make the playoffs down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I uh, you know, I used to be
Speaker 1: one of them. Got a little. Uh stats are for
Speaker 1: los his nose. Stats can tell you a lot, and
Speaker 1: it tells you a lot that this kid, Uh tight situations,
Speaker 1: he throws the ball better than most people think. You know,
Speaker 1: when when when this a tight window, a tight situation,
Speaker 1: he can throw the ball, He throws the ball. You know. Uh,
Speaker 1: I just want him to continue to get better. You
Speaker 1: know a lot of times, Uh we go to blaming.
Speaker 1: Uh it's the footwork that we just and it ain't
Speaker 1: about footwork all the time. It's about people just catching balls.
Speaker 1: It's about guys putting the ball where they need to be,
Speaker 1: whether it's flipping the end over end or wobbling or
Speaker 1: the wind blowing and the nose, go down, catch the ball,
Speaker 1: throw the ball, and that's what it's all about. Another
Speaker 1: way to refer to a tight window throw is throwing
Speaker 1: to a guy who's barely open. So that I know,
Speaker 1: Nate talked about that all season. The guys weren't as
Speaker 1: open as they had become accustomed to it. Well, if
Speaker 1: you notice, go and I'll give you a plan example.
Speaker 1: Name the five guys. Roethlisberger was five, Alex Smith was four,
Speaker 1: and the only guy keen them, and then Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: and the only guy would just out of all of
Speaker 1: them guys you name was Big Ben. He's got a
Speaker 1: ton of your brown that with that super big play capabilities.
Speaker 1: The Stephan guy for Minnesota. But a lot of these
Speaker 1: guys don't have what you call that great receiver from
Speaker 1: or receiver. Yeah, if you look at the next five
Speaker 1: through the top ten, you wouldn't say they're just loaded
Speaker 1: with Yeah. You see guys who with Drew Red, they
Speaker 1: running a wide open all of the scene, like all
Speaker 1: the same of the Eagles. You see them, guy running wild.
Speaker 1: It's like wow, It's like wow, Tom Brady. This is
Speaker 1: the amazing thing is Tom Brady does not have the
Speaker 1: elite receiver. But they do so many different routes and
Speaker 1: scheme combinations to you see guys running why open? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but this is what surprised me and Nate, maybe you
Speaker 1: can tell me the difference here on this. But Dak
Speaker 1: has gotten criticism because he can't throw guys open. I
Speaker 1: know Romo said that in the game about Dez. He
Speaker 1: can't throw guys open, but yet he seems in tight windows,
Speaker 1: he's he's rating pretty high? Is that? Are we talking
Speaker 1: two different things here? Let me let me tell you,
Speaker 1: let me see this, tell me something, Nate. They they Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually just right here, you answer the question.
Speaker 1: You y'all know football. If I'm running down the right
Speaker 1: sideline on a on a on a fly pattern, just
Speaker 1: a straight nine take off, okay, And in the cornerback
Speaker 1: is running with me, where's the place? And I'm running
Speaker 1: down the right sideline, where's the only place I can
Speaker 1: throw the ball out? Okay? Oh he threw him open?
Speaker 1: If I got Let me get another example. If I'm
Speaker 1: running the seam route. If I'm running the seam route
Speaker 1: and y'all have a safety over the top and a
Speaker 1: corner trailing underneath, Okay, Well, I'm gonna throw the ball
Speaker 1: at and I'm going down to the left seam. Where
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw the ball at. The safest place to
Speaker 1: throw the ball is kind of on the outside of
Speaker 1: that left shoulder. You know, that's the only place I
Speaker 1: can throw the ball. Okay, Okay, now you threw him
Speaker 1: open again. No, that's just common sense. Now I run
Speaker 1: a I'm down. I'm down in the red zone, and
Speaker 1: I got basically the same route. The only way I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get that safety over there is to drop back,
Speaker 1: look over to my right, hope that I can pull
Speaker 1: him over there just two steps. Because good quarterbacks like that,
Speaker 1: like the top five I say in the league, They'll
Speaker 1: just dropped back. They look over there and look over
Speaker 1: the boom boom. They got a clock in their heads
Speaker 1: called timing. Then people all of a sudden, he talks
Speaker 1: over there, barely beat it. Oh he threw him up.
Speaker 1: Now he ain't throwing him open. Now, where you truly
Speaker 1: throw somebody open is when you gotta slamt route where
Speaker 1: you gotta safety. They dropping down in the box, and
Speaker 1: you see it at the last minute, you see a
Speaker 1: a linebacker easing over there. You get what I'm saying. Now,
Speaker 1: he's gonna take a big hit, you know. And sometimes
Speaker 1: some quarterbacks are gonnah to read that and put it
Speaker 1: on your body so you can stop and make a move.
Speaker 1: You know. H Drew Brees is good at throwing back shoulder.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to really started his back shoulder stuff
Speaker 1: by throwing balls to guys. Okwaway, can't nobody to get it.
Speaker 1: But then as you get experience, you get to know
Speaker 1: where the open areas are for your guys, either for
Speaker 1: them not to get knocked out, for them the only
Speaker 1: one to be able to get the ball. You saw
Speaker 1: it in the playoffs where Drew Brees and doing I'm
Speaker 1: exhuming Brady through one real load of dude didn't catch it,
Speaker 1: but you just saw how he threw it. He was
Speaker 1: hoping to do and get down then get it. But
Speaker 1: nobody else was gonna get that ball, right, So this
Speaker 1: throwing guys open, sooner we find something like this type
Speaker 1: window thing. Oh my god, I hope they don't catch five,
Speaker 1: because now we're gonna have a pro football focus or
Speaker 1: Jack Joe Lewis, whoever you know this, let me tell
Speaker 1: you about analytics is good because it can tell you basically,
Speaker 1: if you got the right gallup stairs doing the analytics
Speaker 1: and not overdoing it, he can make it work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the Patriots. Yeah, but they got a thing in
Speaker 1: the NBA called crunch time and the Mavericks are losing that.
Speaker 1: You know, they thirty two and six and crunch time games.
Speaker 1: And so I said, what is a crunchtime game? Where
Speaker 1: if you within the last listen to me, the last
Speaker 1: five minutes in the fourth quarter, if you come within
Speaker 1: five points, that's crunchtime. So at the beginning of five
Speaker 1: minutes it says four fifty nine, you come with than
Speaker 1: five minutes, but then the next four minutes you get
Speaker 1: beat by twenty points. That's called a crunch time game. Okay,
Speaker 1: when you can simply say crunch sign can be two
Speaker 1: minutes within three points at any point, again, that's more
Speaker 1: of a crunch time than five minutes. I'm watching the
Speaker 1: marter like, Okay, they got within five points with four
Speaker 1: forty nine, and they ain't swing normal light after that.
Speaker 1: It's like they got ripped. I'm saying, you're really gonna
Speaker 1: call this crunch sign? Really do you like this? It's
Speaker 1: just over you overdo things. You know that that that
Speaker 1: throwing guys open. Let's see this year has Dak grown?
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is, what if they
Speaker 1: don't change the schemes. What if they keep everything the
Speaker 1: same and Dak throws for four thousand yards five tds
Speaker 1: mean's thirty five tds and ten interceptions and they go
Speaker 1: to the playoffs? What changes? Well, what's gonna change for Dak?
Speaker 1: And this is what I've been preaching for the last
Speaker 1: year now it's two years, is what changes for Dak
Speaker 1: is he see things he can and go back and
Speaker 1: look at Nick Folds from the day Carson Wentzcott hurt
Speaker 1: and and look at how he was stowing the ball.
Speaker 1: It's like, man, it's nowhere in the world. Then take
Speaker 1: and keep watching it, and watch it all the way
Speaker 1: to halftime with the with the Falcons, where then when
Speaker 1: he run versus passed and all of a sudden boom.
Speaker 1: Then by the end of that Atlanta game, you see
Speaker 1: him just dropping back and ain't no faking handing the
Speaker 1: ball off and reading something. Now he dropping back and
Speaker 1: he's starting to see the field again. Then we take
Speaker 1: the Minnesota game where it was no game really at
Speaker 1: a certain point of seeing it wasn't no game, but
Speaker 1: it was some plays in there where if Minnesota would
Speaker 1: have did the right thing, you would have been the
Speaker 1: other way. Yeah. Well, you see this quarterback just just
Speaker 1: peppering it. Now there comes to the Super Bowl where
Speaker 1: big bad in New England coming and this dude didn't
Speaker 1: even blink an eye. He was seeing the field. That's
Speaker 1: what quarterbacks, as they get experienced and they don't get
Speaker 1: the crap beat out of them, and they gained that
Speaker 1: confidence that they can stand back there. They begin to
Speaker 1: see the field. They snored that single high safety me.
Speaker 1: They know what the two safetists deep me. They know
Speaker 1: what when the safetists go to play, they know what
Speaker 1: it means. And I get you a perfect example, Mimer
Speaker 1: San Diego coming in here and just oh okay, come
Speaker 1: on up. Your fake too late, come on up because
Speaker 1: I got this guy Keenan Allen coming right here behind you.
Speaker 1: Now you're act like you're gonna stay back there, but
Speaker 1: you coming up. It's just reading. Yeah, that's one of
Speaker 1: the things about quarterback It's like by the time they
Speaker 1: mentally know everything, physically, they're starting to kind of break up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what happened to that's what happened to Tony? And
Speaker 1: then I'm listening to these well you know they're gonna
Speaker 1: let the markets Way and Tony Romo get in the
Speaker 1: ring of honor. I want to say, I just want
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Speaker 1: ring of MoMA. Yeah, dummy. You know, I mean, we
Speaker 1: try to make a discussion on what things that I
Speaker 1: don't think make sense, you know, But that throwing open, yes,
Speaker 1: some quarterbacks can because they're good, like you say, once
Speaker 1: they see it, they know it and they know how
Speaker 1: to place the ball number one to keep their guy
Speaker 1: to harms way. See, people don't understand what throwing or
Speaker 1: guy open is. First of all, you gotta be able
Speaker 1: to keep your guy out of harm's way. We over
Speaker 1: half the penalties that safeties get is because bad quarterback play.
Speaker 1: You just run your guy right into a s. You know,
Speaker 1: take one more break. Since we started late, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go a little bit over when we come back. We'll
Speaker 1: hold on man. Douglas don't have anything to say. Boy
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Speaker 1: little bit. So we'll go over a few minutes we'll
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Speaker 1: never takes notes, and at the beginning of the show
Speaker 1: he started writing something down, so I was like, oh no, no,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, I hope I'm pronouncing your name right, because brothers,
Speaker 1: this brother Finna getting ninety million dollars and three today.
Speaker 1: He don't care what you call him. Problem. So my
Speaker 1: first question is you get Jimmy signed, you get a
Speaker 1: man to the Redskins? Uh, Cousins, No, Alex Smith to
Speaker 1: the Redskins. He gonna get in the next three years,
Speaker 1: seventy one meal a littit. I'm the seventy mial. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's a Brandon car deal. But let me say this,
Speaker 1: hill Man. Now, these guys ain't did nothing. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about that Smith. He's had some success. Uh, but
Speaker 1: I'm tingbout Jimmy. He gratulation, bro, and I hope it
Speaker 1: works out. But now Kirk Cousins, Drew Brees is free,
Speaker 1: and you got Teddy Bridgewater, you got case Keenum and Bradford,
Speaker 1: all from Minnesota free. What is the market gonna be
Speaker 1: like for these guys? Cousins and Breeze gotta be, Oh man,
Speaker 1: they gotta be. I know, Breeze probably, I know Cousins
Speaker 1: saying you know what, I know, y'all may not look
Speaker 1: at me as though when the forty Niners look at
Speaker 1: whatever his name. Yeah, but can I at least get
Speaker 1: twenty three. Man, let me ask you this, With all
Speaker 1: those guys flooding the market all of a sudden, is
Speaker 1: that bad for them? Does that mean any other year
Speaker 1: one or two of these guys comes out, everybody's going
Speaker 1: after him. With all these guys coming out, is that
Speaker 1: bad man? Drew gonna go back? Drew gonna go back
Speaker 1: to the Saints. Saints? But Kirk Cousins, you got the Jets,
Speaker 1: you got Denver? Who else we got? We got? Uh? Jacksonville, man,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville maybe looking at him because they didn't matter. I
Speaker 1: want to get what you call nineteen point five meal
Speaker 1: they man, I want to get they got nineteen point
Speaker 1: you know. And see you can say Bradford is a
Speaker 1: continue to get hurt, but who knows? And Teddy b
Speaker 1: case Keenum, we know who he is. If he get
Speaker 1: in the right system, he'll manage the team. He he
Speaker 1: to me. And I hate to say this, he's a
Speaker 1: poor man's Alex Smith. I was gonna say him and
Speaker 1: as Smith, Yeah, I think the poor man Alex Smith.
Speaker 1: You know. So I think Cousins will get stupid money,
Speaker 1: but I'm not so sure about the others. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: get paid. But that's what I'm saying. And see, Teddy Bridgewater,
Speaker 1: you still a quite you. You're still out of all
Speaker 1: of these guys. You are the question mark ed the Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: It's the question mark now, Bradford, maybe a question mark
Speaker 1: for us being hurt. But get him in the right system.
Speaker 1: I think he can, he can flourish. But case Keenham,
Speaker 1: you know, take it, take your twelve and come home. Bro.
Speaker 1: That about the most you're gonna get it, twelve, and
Speaker 1: abody may give your twelve a year, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe maybe twelve year if you do more than that.
Speaker 1: Right now, you you you setting your franchise up. Let
Speaker 1: me ask out a question because somebody asked me this
Speaker 1: over the weekend. I didn't know the answer to this,
Speaker 1: and we'll I think we'll talk about this probably next
Speaker 1: show or or a little bit closer to to March
Speaker 1: when when free agency gets going. But somebody asked me
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys would franchise Tag DeMarcus Lawrence this year.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, that's a great question.
Speaker 1: I really don't know the answer to that. He could
Speaker 1: be I mean, oh yeah, he can go for you know,
Speaker 1: everybody can go for stupid money now you you you
Speaker 1: know you can just scare them. You can scare the
Speaker 1: negotiations right out of the window. You know, Hey, man,
Speaker 1: we he gonna he's gonna need nineteen. Yeah, we need that.
Speaker 1: And Miss Jones were like, hey, just franchise, man, We
Speaker 1: didn't fine discussed. Yeah. I don't think you see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They want to sign him to a long
Speaker 1: term Yeah, yeah, help their cap and all that, but
Speaker 1: they're not gonna let him go. Who do you think
Speaker 1: are free agents coming up? The top two priorities have
Speaker 1: to be Hitchings in tank right, because because Zach still
Speaker 1: got a fifth year, man, Zach plea, don't hate me, man,
Speaker 1: but I have to use that fifth year on you.
Speaker 1: Let him play. Yeah, I will have to use Zach
Speaker 1: don't hate me, bro, but I would have to use
Speaker 1: it on you Zeke. Yeah. I mean it's those two
Speaker 1: that are this year unless you I mean, David Irving's there,
Speaker 1: he's restricted. Let me tell you something, bro. Unless I
Speaker 1: miss my guests. Ebra Flus is the coordinator for the
Speaker 1: for the Colts. I think he's gonna be dearly missed.
Speaker 1: You better better hope the Cowboys off for Hitchings A
Speaker 1: decent contract. He's going you don't offer him a decent
Speaker 1: when I know ebra Flus the least he gonna have
Speaker 1: that horse. Yeah, hey, man, run around, horse run. You
Speaker 1: know what, we didn't talk about that. What a crappy
Speaker 1: deal that went down out there, man and and Ebraflus.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine you take a job for a guy now,
Speaker 1: Frank Wright is is you have? And then one it
Speaker 1: was classy moved by the Colts to keep those guys,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know now, but no, once they
Speaker 1: signed them, contrary with day you fire them. That's true.
Speaker 1: What you're gonna pay, it's gonna be for four years.
Speaker 1: I get to two jacks. Yeah, a little tricky because
Speaker 1: you know, usually the head coach hires a coordinator. Now
Speaker 1: it's just you know, they hired Jason Garrett pretty much
Speaker 1: for the hired Wade Phillips, So you always kind of
Speaker 1: knew that was in the bat. But but the thing
Speaker 1: about who they okay, Abrafluce, is they Devon's a coordinate?
Speaker 1: Did they get up did they already signed off as
Speaker 1: a coordinator? I do not know. I just see because
Speaker 1: you can beat off as a coordinator. I'm told they're
Speaker 1: going after the Chargers quarterbacks coach. Okay, because I knew
Speaker 1: they had to dive as a coordinator. Even flu is
Speaker 1: supposed to be a pretty decent coach from what I understand.
Speaker 1: You know, it depends on who you talked to. But
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinated Frank Right is the is the head coach,
Speaker 1: and he may want to his first year, he may
Speaker 1: want to have hands on So who have your offens accordinated?
Speaker 1: Won't even matter because Frank Wright is a backup perennial
Speaker 1: coach that played quarterback, So he's gonna want to put
Speaker 1: his hands on this player. And we don't even know
Speaker 1: if that player is gonna be Andrew Luck for this
Speaker 1: next coming year. Right, I mean I saw this coming
Speaker 1: two three years ago when you you you drafted Andrew Luck,
Speaker 1: and I said, I said, man, you got to. You
Speaker 1: got to. I mean, even if you fail every year
Speaker 1: in your first two rounds, you got to be offensive linement.
Speaker 1: You got to because when his next contract come up,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay him and lord hole and
Speaker 1: let him get beat up, beat up, and you paid him.
Speaker 1: Now he got surgery. Now you had to go out
Speaker 1: and give a second first round pickle for the bisette
Speaker 1: kid or third round pickle, whatever you gave up for him.
Speaker 1: That don't make no sense, man, Yeah, it just don't
Speaker 1: make no sense. Talking about Flus leaving, how much as
Speaker 1: a player, as a former player, how much do position
Speaker 1: coaches matter in the grand scheme of game day and
Speaker 1: game If you got if you got a guy like
Speaker 1: Ebra Flus who was passed defensive coordinator and uh stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, so he connected in the front edge or
Speaker 1: the back end for as the linebackers and the safeties
Speaker 1: and corners and stuff. So he putting that scheme together.
Speaker 1: That's big and uh. But as far as like just
Speaker 1: a wide receivers coach or a corner you know, if
Speaker 1: you secondary coach, or if you managing or some guys
Speaker 1: just managers. You know, they managed their position. They they
Speaker 1: that you know, like Mike Irvin knew how to run routs,
Speaker 1: Kevin Martin knew to run routes. Uh, everybody when I asked,
Speaker 1: you know, Adam Harper knew how to run his routes.
Speaker 1: They knew what to do with Troy so uh, hubbad.
Speaker 1: Alexander was more just like a manager. He manages guys
Speaker 1: because they knew what to do. When you say manage.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by just mad sure things went
Speaker 1: right in practice? Major? Yeah, Eagles was in check and
Speaker 1: just kept a guy right. Because these guys were professionals.
Speaker 1: They knew their job. And some guys got to be teachers.
Speaker 1: Some guys got you know, like Tony Wis for me,
Speaker 1: was a teacher. You know. He helped me learn the game.
Speaker 1: He helped me understand what I needed to do. Some
Speaker 1: guys got to be teachers as well as manager. So
Speaker 1: you hit people. So I guess it just depends on
Speaker 1: where you're at in your career. Right, guys can't show
Speaker 1: him anything else. You guys need hands on Yah, his
Speaker 1: technico Christoph Shard's gonna be busy as a secondary coach.
Speaker 1: But Sanjay law May he's got guys there for the
Speaker 1: most part. Now, how to the thing? The thing is?
Speaker 1: The thing is if I'm if what our receiver's gotta
Speaker 1: do is become better route runners versus coverage whatever to
Speaker 1: cover because Dak that's how Dak is learning. He's not
Speaker 1: Tony Romo. Tony. And see that's another thing. When you're
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback. Tony knew how to buy time, look
Speaker 1: things off, work things to a certain way, and like
Speaker 1: Mike Irvin said when we was doing the show, he said,
Speaker 1: it wasn't always that I was a great route runner,
Speaker 1: but I knew where to be and when to be there.
Speaker 1: Everything is about timing. Everything's about getting to the area
Speaker 1: at the right time. I watched y'all show with you,
Speaker 1: Mike and Darryl, and that's one thing he really emphasized
Speaker 1: was I knew when to be open. Wasn't as much
Speaker 1: like being the fastest guy and how to run the route,
Speaker 1: but knowing at what point in the route. Look. He
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, yea. The only time he ever messed
Speaker 1: it up is when Alvin Harper caught that bomb gets
Speaker 1: the forty nine Huy switch. If you haven't seen Nate
Speaker 1: and Darryl Johnston and Michael they put a video up
Speaker 1: I think it was last week or the end of
Speaker 1: the week before, and they talk about all things cowboys
Speaker 1: for about forty five minutes and it is awesome. Good
Speaker 1: is that from the Year in Special? Thing separately? Yep, Nope,
Speaker 1: the Year in Special Okay, and it's it's awesome. If
Speaker 1: you hadn't If you hadn't seen it, go check it
Speaker 1: out on the website. By the way, fellas, I've got
Speaker 1: all the names of our TV crew, oh out of here.
Speaker 1: The name I'd forgotten Katie and she provides all the
Speaker 1: chiron graphics, all the descriptions. Uh. And then and then
Speaker 1: there's Dave and Caden and Kent and Kent. Well, awesome,
Speaker 1: the new stuff looks great, can't Garrison probably don't want
Speaker 1: to look at us. Yeah. The more you can get
Speaker 1: video on there, the better. Yeah, the more video the better.
Speaker 1: But it was good. It was It was a cool,
Speaker 1: cool show. So hopefully we'll be doing that every week.
Speaker 1: Huh Douglas. Yeah, yeah, in the off season. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: started the time Mexico stop it and we do need
Speaker 1: their help. Sp I'm going back to Mexico at some point.
Speaker 1: Might not come back to next February. No, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go before then. I need to get out of the
Speaker 1: country again before the season starts. We'll see. Maybe I'll
Speaker 1: bring you guys what you're out of the country and
Speaker 1: be done out of nothing. Sunshine, there's no sunshine here.
Speaker 1: It's thirty degrees on in man clos of them me.
Speaker 1: Getting in Mexico is New Mexico. Hey, we go there too. Yeah, Kurt,
Speaker 1: thanks for showing up, sir. All right, Nate, thanks for
Speaker 1: bringing it. Douglas, thanks for doing what you do. Kent,
Speaker 1: thanks for pushing the button. Jimmy, kayden is it Garoppolo,
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