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Speaker 1: Oh, there's bad news of fans of living because Health

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Speaker 1: Secretary RFK Junior just pulled five hundred million dollars in

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Speaker 1: of this show, and I want to give a measured,

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Speaker 2: Here you you royd addled nepocon.

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Speaker 3: Well specifically, specifically, specifically, Bobby Jr.

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Speaker 1: Is nixing twenty two projects that use mRNA technology. But

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Speaker 1: that's the latest vaccine technology. That's like saying, kids, I'm

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Speaker 1: turning off the GPS. We're going to make our way

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Speaker 2: By using the stars. And Daddy the.

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Speaker 4: Sextant, yes, crank down windows and died his car.

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Speaker 2: The Colbert has no talent. I mean I could take

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Speaker 2: anybody here, I could go outside on the beautiful streets

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Speaker 2: and pick up a couple of people. They do just

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Speaker 5: He's got no talent.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, yesterday, RFK Junior tried to defend the ends defensible.

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Speaker 1: Mostly shots are for flu or covid, but as the

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Speaker 1: pandemic showed us, mRNA vaccines don't perform well against viruses

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Speaker 1: that in fact the upper respiratory track. Counterpoint, you you

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Speaker 3: What eyed tune and slim gym.

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Speaker 2: You're willing to kill people? Why?

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Speaker 1: Why would you say that mRNA vaccines don't perform well

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Speaker 1: against upper ropatory infections. The National Institutes of Health said

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Speaker 1: they prevented an estimated fourteen zero point.

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Speaker 2: Four million in debts.

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Speaker 1: Why on earth is RFK Junior so anxious to fill

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Speaker 5: Shut it up?

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Speaker 2: Okay, welcome back. It's Saturday, nine August. You're of our Lord.

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Speaker 2: Doctor j Baktaria joins us. The director of the National

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Speaker 2: Institute of Health. Got a little little heated this past week, doctor,

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Speaker 2: particularly with people like Colbert. Totally obviously crude and unacceptable,

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Speaker 2: but it is what it is. Can you explain to us, really,

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Speaker 2: exactly what happened this week, what brought it about, what

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Speaker 6: Sir sure So? What Secretor Kennedy did is he ordered that.

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Speaker 7: BARTA, which is an agency in HHS Health and Human Services,

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Speaker 7: cancel a whole bunch of contracts for the mRNA platform

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Speaker 7: The reason that he did that, and I think it's

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Speaker 7: The only way forward is to is to be honest

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Speaker 2: Now that's what we played from years ago when he

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Speaker 2: What is actually the science tell us, What does the

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Speaker 7: And so as far as like the COVID vaccine itself,

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Speaker 6: It's just it's kind of a library.

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Speaker 2: What led What you're saying is that hey could be promising,

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Speaker 2: I agree perfect Where do people go to get to

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Speaker 7: So I have a site called NIH Director Underscore j

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Speaker 2: Really appreciate you taking time. On the Saturday, We'll make

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Speaker 2: sure we'll push out all your information.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Steve. Really grateful to have you have me on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. Wow, very refreshing. I've got the great name.

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Speaker 2: And in fact, can we boot that add up for

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Speaker 2: the for the break. I want to play it afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Naomi Wolf joins us. H Naomi, many years in the

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Speaker 2: vineyard you you fought and warned people, and and and

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Speaker 2: and put together the UH the Pfiser papers and had

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Speaker 2: thousands of warm posse under your n Amy Kelly's great direction.

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Speaker 2: Do all this work? What are your thoughts when you

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Speaker 2: heard the when you heard the announcement this week and

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Speaker 2: also the firestorm that came back from the cold Bears

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Speaker 2: of the world and the mocking and and all that.

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Speaker 8: Man, well, it was it was an important announcement.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I've been critical of HGHS into the leadership

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Speaker 11: of Secretary Kennedy falling short, you know, so many times

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Speaker 11: in so many ways of the centerpiece of why the

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Speaker 11: MAHA movement aligned with MAGA for this historic union of

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Speaker 11: voters and the centerpiece of that was getting rid of

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Speaker 11: the mRNA injection that moms knew and dad's knew by

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Speaker 11: now has been so devastating and damaging. So I've got

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Speaker 11: a credit Secretary Kennedy for a considerable amount of boldness.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we know what he's facing.

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Speaker 11: We can conjecture, you know, the headwinds internally, the you know.

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Speaker 12: Many.

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Speaker 11: Forces, lobbyists, different camps internally that would want to prevent

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Speaker 11: an announcement such as his, which defunded about half a

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Speaker 11: billion dollars in funding for twenty two mRNA programs. So

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Speaker 11: that was I want to credit him for that, right,

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Speaker 11: That took a lot of courage, that said, like my

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Speaker 11: headline today especially you know now always but listening to

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Speaker 11: doctor Batitaria.

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Speaker 8: Whom I admire so much, you know, whom.

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Speaker 11: I've known and respected since twenty twenty two when I

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Speaker 11: first interviewed him, I feel like they're such a huge amount, right.

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Speaker 11: And the predictable mockery because you analyze the the battlefield

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Speaker 11: so accurately. The predictable mockery from legacy media is largely

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Speaker 11: because pharma pays for seventy to eighty percent of legacy media,

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Speaker 11: so make banning at you know, pharma ads in America

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Speaker 11: the way every country but New Zealand bans pharma ads

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Speaker 11: will indeed shake out the tree and leave you know,

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Speaker 11: guarantee journalists prison. But I was just going to say,

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Speaker 11: you know, my headline is that ATTS doesn't have.

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Speaker 8: A working comms apparatus.

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Speaker 11: And you see Secretary Kennedy and my view, struggling much

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Speaker 11: harder than he should have to Jay Baicharia, even not

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Speaker 11: being equipped with, you know, by a comms team with

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Speaker 11: simple points and action steps that everyone can understand.

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Speaker 2: Naomi, hang on one second, We're just gonna take a

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Speaker 2: commercial breakround. I want to get into all this and

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Speaker 2: give you plenty of runway. Next in the war.

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Speaker 6: Room about how I'm so tired of these ads?

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Speaker 2: Who are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm Big Pharma.

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Speaker 2: We spend a lot to get into your living room,

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Speaker 2: over eighteen billion a year selling medicine you can't even.

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Speaker 5: Get without a prescription.

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Speaker 2: All that spending buys off the media and drives up

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Speaker 2: prescription costs for you. And that's why there are only

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Speaker 2: two countries that allow us to advertise. Cheers. Learn more

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Speaker 2: Nameo me. I want you to continue on, but I

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Speaker 2: also want about the accountability. You know, We started with

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Speaker 2: a package with doctor Jay about Colbert, who was on

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Speaker 2: a tear this week, but also went back to the

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Speaker 2: time he had the dancing needles, and you know, he

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Speaker 2: just said that he thought that people like Colbert did

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Speaker 2: an immense damage to public health in the United States, and

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Speaker 2: nobody would know that better than you, who they tried

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Speaker 6: Rid of it, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: So walk me through exactly where you think we think

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Speaker 2: you think we are promulgating this information One to the

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Speaker 2: American people, so people have a full understanding of exactly

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Speaker 2: where we are in this. And number two, what is

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Speaker 2: your recommendation on how we hold people accountable that really

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Speaker 2: damaged and hurt so many of our fellow citizens.

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Speaker 11: Ma'am sure, Well, I love that trailer or that clip

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Speaker 11: you just aired. How necessary to have a group pressing

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Speaker 11: and it shouldn't be a difficult legislative solution to simply

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Speaker 11: make it unlawful as.

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Speaker 8: Everywhere else but one country for pharmat advertise.

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Speaker 11: And I think what we're going to find it's so

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Speaker 11: fantastic an approach is that you know, just like we're

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Speaker 11: seeing legacy DA collapse without usci D money. It may

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Speaker 11: simply fall apart completely without the combination of us AID

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Speaker 11: money and farmer money. And that'll leave independent media to

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Speaker 11: tell the truth. It's a fabulous approach and it's necessary.

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Speaker 11: Uh So, doctor Vaicharia, you know, didn't just face opposition

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Speaker 11: from legacy media. He actually faced, as he mentioned, internal

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Speaker 11: opposition from the highest levels of AGHS and the NIH.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's so unconstitutional. But we know that story

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Speaker 8: right and now.

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Speaker 11: Our people, our friends, our electeds are in charge, especially

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Speaker 11: directly at HHS, NIH and so on. So what I

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Speaker 11: want to encourage, you know, our wonderful allies in those

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Speaker 11: agencies to consider, is that the time is over for

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Speaker 11: the reaction to be How do we tell this story?

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Speaker 11: How do we combat legacy media? You know, they're so

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Speaker 11: full of falsehood, they are so mean to us. You

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Speaker 11: know enough of that. We're in charge now, you guys

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Speaker 11: are in now. Yes, they're going to try to tear

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Speaker 11: your story apart. That's their job, certainly for as long

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Speaker 11: as they're funded by pharma. But what AHHS needs to have,

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Speaker 11: and NIH needs to have, and the FDA needs to

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Speaker 11: have is a really functioning comms apparatus and that's not

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Speaker 11: rocket science, and they don't have it right now. So

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Speaker 11: let's just take the mRNA rollout of big announcement. I

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Speaker 11: think it was kind of botched and it shouldn't have been.

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Speaker 11: They should have gotten nothing but good political capital out.

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Speaker 8: Of that announcement. It didn't come with links to the

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Speaker 8: original science right.

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Speaker 11: And Stephen Hatfill, an advisor to AHHS, as I understand,

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Speaker 11: was on your show. He was on Emerald Robinson's show

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Speaker 11: and he said the quiet part out loud, you know,

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Speaker 11: great journalism from Emily Robinson, from you, but he said,

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Speaker 11: there are five hundred studies showing the damage outweighs the

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Speaker 11: benefit of these in, but Stephanie Spear is sitting on

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Speaker 11: them essentially. I mean his words were more diplomatic.

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Speaker 8: And then you.

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Speaker 11: Know Gray Delaney, who is my former editor, a really

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Speaker 11: serious young man who had a role advising. He was fired,

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Speaker 11: you know, subsequent to the mr and A roll out.

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Speaker 11: He actually knew how to run you know, comms better

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Speaker 11: than it seems the existing infrastructure. So I can tell you,

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Speaker 11: as a sympathetic journalist, Steve, that when I run a

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Speaker 11: critical essay about AHHS, I don't have anyone to call

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Speaker 11: to get a quote. There's no one to reach, right,

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Speaker 11: you can go to the AHHS website, there's press person.

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Speaker 11: It goes into a black hole. I don't get emails

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Speaker 11: from EHHS. I'm a reporter with two million people listening

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Speaker 11: a month, right, I'm sympathetic. I don't get press releases

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Speaker 11: from AHHS. When you look at the press release for

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Speaker 11: the mRNA, and I'm talking now so people will understand

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Speaker 11: that a press release from a communications shop, right, which

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Speaker 11: every agency is supposed to have, is the DNA of

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Speaker 11: messaging from any successful administration.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 11: You know, there isn't a database of journalists that's getting

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Speaker 11: press releases. And when you get the press release, say

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Speaker 11: for the mri NA rollout, it's so convoluted, so bureaucratically

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Speaker 11: written and kind of sneakily.

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Speaker 8: Phrased, which I wish they would stop doing that.

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Speaker 11: You end up noticing, Okay, well they're defunding twenty two programs,

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Speaker 11: but they're reinvesting, you know, in something over there. And

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Speaker 11: meanwhile they're acknowledging there are still programs that they're not

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Speaker 11: going to pull. Putting this MRN injection people's bodies because

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Speaker 11: it's already taxpayer funded. So anyone with common sense who

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Speaker 11: can make it through the language is going to be

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Speaker 11: going what I can't even write about this? And you know,

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Speaker 11: also with a role out of that important which is

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Speaker 11: going to get news coverage from certainly all the financial press,

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Speaker 11: all the legacy media. Why isn't there an obed penned

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Speaker 11: by someone.

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Speaker 8: With you know, r F. K. Junior's name on it,

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Speaker 8: doctor Banachara's name on it. Well it maybe r F. K.

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Speaker 8: Junior's name on it, you know, in the Washington Post,

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Speaker 8: the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times.

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Speaker 11: I mean, maybe the case for this was made and

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Speaker 11: I just overlooked it. But really, a functional comms team

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Speaker 11: should have op eds USA Today, regional newspapers, you know,

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Speaker 11: and they should have a battery of surrogates, right, who

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Speaker 11: are equipped and trained again with these three message points

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Speaker 11: and an action step so that they're all on the

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Speaker 11: same page, which I will tell you Democrats do it.

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Speaker 11: You know, we're awful people, or you know, I'm a

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Speaker 11: former Democrat, but you know the opposition are awful, but

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Speaker 11: they know how to get in line and send everyone

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Speaker 11: talking points right, and literally I don't see surrogates, and

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Speaker 11: there are many who would be willing going out and

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Speaker 11: carrying RFK Junior's message. He took half a billion dollars

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Speaker 11: away from mRNA. Lastly, I just want to say, there's

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Speaker 11: no one.

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Speaker 8: It seems, thinking through the emotional impact of what they're doing.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 11: So, you know, seventy to eighty percent of the American

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Speaker 11: public Steve has taken this mr Anda injection into their

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Speaker 11: bodies once, twice, three times a booster, and they were

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Speaker 11: told for four years safe and effective, safe and effective,

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Speaker 11: you know, the dancing syringes, etc.

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Speaker 8: On Stephen Colbert.

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Speaker 11: Now Secretary Kennedy, who already has been branded a lunatic

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Speaker 11: by legacy media, stands up and tells them something very

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Speaker 11: very emotionally charged, right, very difficult to hear.

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Speaker 8: There's more risk than benefit.

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Speaker 11: That is scientifically and medically correct, and everyone who got

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Speaker 11: that message should have been directed to all the studies

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Speaker 11: that show that. So he's not standing out there by

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Speaker 11: himself unsupported, but it's emotionally traumatic to hear that. So

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Speaker 11: they need someone in the commons shop needs to think through.

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Speaker 11: This is going to be very difficult for people to hear.

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Speaker 11: We need to be patient, we need to be informative.

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Speaker 8: We need to have OpEd after OpEd, after our.

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Speaker 11: Ed explaining you know, this is how we're going to

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Speaker 11: help this.

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Speaker 8: We're now we're going to work on fascinating injury compensation issues.

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Speaker 8: So that's not a morasque. You know, we're going to

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna have you on. I'll work out with

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Speaker 2: your schedule. That comment because I want to have back

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Speaker 2: It's not just the five hundred million dollars that's kind

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Speaker 2: of the bar to part of it. It's so much

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Speaker 2: deeper than that. The five or a million is like okay,

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Speaker 2: They wanted it to work. A lot of the scientists

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Speaker 2: lost their scientific you know, not just credibility, but their moorings.

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Speaker 2: And of course people like Fauci and others in the

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Speaker 2: pharmaceutic with investent interests went over the top. But this

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Speaker 2: thing is so deep. This gets to the whole situation

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Speaker 2: with the pandemic. This gets to the situation of public

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Speaker 2: health going forward. And the Colbert stuff can't be unanswered.

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Speaker 2: It has to be answered, and people eventually have to

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Speaker 2: be held accountable. So this is what and I do

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Speaker 2: agree with you. I'm so blown away that it was

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Speaker 2: just like a read the press leaves and like I said,

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Speaker 2: you know me, I'm not a doctor. When I read that, go,

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Speaker 2: Holy mackerel, does this say what I think it says.

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Speaker 2: So this is why it has to be a massive effort.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I believe it's the most important thing that

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Speaker 2: that Secretary Kennedy has done. It will have the most

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Speaker 2: profound implications if properly managed, not just in the messaging side,

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Speaker 2: but the action side. Uh Naomi, we got to bounce,

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Speaker 2: but I want everybody to go to your your thing,

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Speaker 2: but we'll have you back on. This thing is so

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Speaker 2: massive that we're at the very top. And I want

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Speaker 2: people to understand just because just because Bobby Kennedy and

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Speaker 2: and all these came together with the science of Hatfield

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Speaker 2: and put this out and made a decision. This fight's

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Speaker 2: far from over. Don't think the farmer thinks that they're

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Speaker 2: going to lose this, they look at us as just

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Speaker 2: a collect They still look at this as a collection

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Speaker 2: of just kind of marginalia. This fight is in and

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Speaker 2: if we want to win this and do what's right

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Speaker 2: for science and do what's right for public health. Hey,

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Speaker 2: this is the opening salvo. This is so far from over.

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Speaker 2: And people think you just put out a pressure release.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's done, that's holy writ it's not. That's not

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Speaker 2: the way the imperial capital works. And that's not the

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Speaker 2: way modern capitalism works, particularly when you talking about the

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Speaker 2: concentration of power that big farmer has. Naomi Wolf An

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Speaker 2: amazing job you did over the years. We'll get more

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Speaker 2: to that about the Pfizer papers and what led to this.

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Speaker 2: Where do people go over the weekend to get your man?

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Speaker 11: Well, they should come on August twenty first at six

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Speaker 11: pm to the Republican Club, the Donald J.

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Speaker 8: Trump Republican Club. That's me at the Republican Club.

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Speaker 11: Everyone this day has come and they can meet the candidates,

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Speaker 11: this ground swell of amazing young candidates, former Democrats who

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Speaker 11: have walked away, who are now running as Republicans to

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Speaker 11: save broken and save New York.

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Speaker 2: So everyone comes say hi, then wow, wow, Wow, I

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Speaker 2: want to talk about that next week. Also, it's good

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Speaker 2: on you because that is another fight that is horrific

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Speaker 2: right there. The Working People's Party of the DSA, they've

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Speaker 2: got ground game. I'm telling you this is going to

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Speaker 2: be a battle. Royale Naomi Wolf social media. Where do

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Speaker 2: people get your man at.

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Speaker 11: Your wolf on x and on daily cloud, dot io

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Speaker 11: and over on substack.

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Speaker 8: I am outspoken substeck.

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Speaker 2: And thank you, thank you, thank you man, you are

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Speaker 2: outspoken on that. I can guarantee you name me Wolf. Wow,

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Speaker 2: this thing is huge. The director of the I r

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Speaker 2: S was made or nominated for to be the ambassador

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Speaker 2: for Iceland. So he's stepping down after two months. That

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Speaker 2: would be sixty days. Scott Besson's currently got it. I've

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Speaker 2: strongly recommended on Ghetter and pushed out on social media.

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Speaker 2: Grace has helped me. Jason Smith, the congressman, I think

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Speaker 2: it's Missouri eight. It's a plus twenty seven district, MAGA district.

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Speaker 2: He's the head of ways and means. I think they

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Speaker 2: need immediately to get someone like Jason Smith. They got

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Speaker 2: to take the burden off. Scott bessent. It has to happen,

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Speaker 2: and it has to happen immediately short break back in a moment.

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Speaker 2: Excuse your Stephen k back Tax Network USA eight hundred

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Speaker 2: they're looking for, they need to find every piece of

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Speaker 2: revenue they can. Hey, I realized we want to take

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Speaker 2: apart the IRS. But right now they are quite active.

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Speaker 2: If you have a letter from them, if you fail

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Speaker 2: to a file, if you're late filing, stop the anxiety.

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Speaker 2: Call eight hundred ninety five, eight one thousand. Right now,

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Speaker 2: the folks that they are solved over a billion dollars

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Speaker 2: of tax issues, and I believe they can solve yours,

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Speaker 2: but you don't know until you actually call. You get

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Speaker 2: a free consultation eight hundred nine five eight one thousand.

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Speaker 2: Just don't let the letters sit there in the desk.

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Speaker 2: It ain't going to go away. It's just going to

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Speaker 2: one thousand. They've solved a billion dollars worth of these

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Speaker 2: tax issues that are just like yours. There's nothing new

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Speaker 2: under the sun when it comes to IRS. Go call

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Speaker 2: them and check it out today. Texts Network USA Dave

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Speaker 2: Bratt tie it all together from brother.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, doctor Barbichari, just outstanding objectivity, honesty, the moral U

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Speaker 10: foundations come through Naomi, the same thing. More political. Let's

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Speaker 10: get it out there. Transparency matters, right, Let's get where's

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Speaker 10: the comms director? Where's all this ties into President Trump's

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Speaker 10: position on the universities, and he should stay at it, right,

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Speaker 10: I have people from the universities, right, everybody sees the

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Speaker 10: news clips. So the University of Chicago professor, she says,

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Speaker 10: you know, I hate this place. It's run by white men.

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Speaker 10: I hate white men. And I'm staying here to use

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Speaker 10: this as a platform. And that's what Badacharias said. Science

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Speaker 10: is not a platform. It should be you should be

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Speaker 10: able to reproduce your results if it's publicly funded. We

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Speaker 10: should demand all sciences put out publicly after they publish

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Speaker 10: the paper. Right, so you know it's competitive academically so,

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Speaker 10: but you should have to put your data and your

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Speaker 10: methodology out in public so people can replicate it. And

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Speaker 10: just a quick in closing the university, right, it's not

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Speaker 10: just science, which is way better than the rest of them.

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Speaker 5: The university is roughly.

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Speaker 10: A third hard science, a third social science, and.

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Speaker 5: A third humanities.

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Speaker 10: All three are supposed to explain the same reality the

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Speaker 10: real world. And I'll just leave you with a closing thought.

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Speaker 10: The most important thing or person for all of humanity

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Speaker 10: six billion people is God? And why can't a university

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Speaker 10: study God? The most important thing? Ethics and religion and

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Speaker 10: God are off limits to science, social science, the humanities.

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Speaker 10: That's got to be turned around. And Trump Trump should

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Speaker 10: explain that to our leaders in education.

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Speaker 2: Social media. Where do people get you over the weekend?

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Speaker 2: For you back here next week?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll put a little of that up from that

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Speaker 10: last little blurb there. Brad Economics on Getter and ex

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Speaker 10: Thanks Steve.

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Speaker 2: Thank you brother, thank you for co hosting taje Gil

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Speaker 2: Mike Lindell, No, Mike, Oh my gosh, I want to

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Speaker 2: an entire Saturday. No, Mike Lindell. We'll have to put

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Speaker 2: up my pillow dot com. But thanks for the heads up. Okay,

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Speaker 2: incredibly big. Next week, the redistrissing are going to start,

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Speaker 2: not just Texas, across the nation. We've got the summit

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Speaker 2: with Putin. We're gonna have special analysis every day and

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Speaker 2: guess what, I think a couple of three of our

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Speaker 2: own people may actually be up there in the press

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Speaker 2: pool to cover it. A historic week. President Trump understands

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Speaker 2: history fifteen August when the Japanese surrendered, finally surrendered in

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Speaker 2: World War Two, and that's why he's gonna do it,

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna do it right in Alaska's strategically important

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Speaker 2: for hemispheric defense. Also, I'm sure we're going to get

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Speaker 2: a couple of three updates on the entire situation in

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Speaker 2: Gaza and everything else in President Trump's doing here a domestically.

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Speaker 2: I'll be up on Ghetter all weekend. We're gonna leave

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Speaker 2: you with the right stuff. An absolute American classic historic book.

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Speaker 2: It's actually nonfiction movie that was classic from Philip Kaufman

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Speaker 2: in a magnificent score from Bill Conti. We'll see Monday

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Speaker 2: morning at ten am Eastern Daily Time.