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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl,

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Speaker 2: all about them high school queens. We'll take you for

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Speaker 2: a ride, and our comic girl sharing for the Rights

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Speaker 2: Drama Queens.

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Speaker 3: Jlie, my girl of girl Fashion, but your tough girl.

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Speaker 1: You could sit with us, Girl Drama, Queen Drama, Queens Drama,

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Speaker 1: Queens Drama, John the Queens Drama Queens.

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Speaker 4: Uh. Pretty cool, all three of us in the house

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Speaker 4: to talk about a banger of an episode.

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Speaker 5: OI.

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Speaker 6: God, hey, everybody, wasn't it though? This was a heavy episode.

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Speaker 3: This was heavy. I just want to say thank you

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Speaker 3: to you both, and also to all of our listeners

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Speaker 3: who've been just like reaching out and so kind while

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Speaker 3: we are scrambling in LA this week, you know, trying

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Speaker 3: to like support our people and figure out how to

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Speaker 3: get things to our friends who've like literally lost everything.

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Speaker 3: And also I'm like, wow, we had to come back

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Speaker 3: in at eight oh three, Like I just cried through

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Speaker 3: this whole episode. I was like, I am a runner,

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Speaker 3: I'm so emotional and I sobbed, and I can't wait

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Speaker 3: to talk to you guys about it and cry for

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Speaker 3: the next hour. Everything's going to be great.

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Speaker 6: We unpacked a lot in this episode and tied a

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Speaker 6: lot of loose ends and opened up a lot of wounds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess before we dive in, let's uh,

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Speaker 4: let's everyone know what we watched. Season eight, episode three,

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Speaker 4: The Space in Between, aired September twenty eighth, twenty ten.

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Speaker 4: Synopsis reads as a situation at the hospital worsens, Nathan

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Speaker 4: makes a huge decision regarding his career. Does he ever?

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Speaker 4: Brooke and Julian take Jamie for the day, while Victoria

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Speaker 4: and Millicent hatch a plan directed by Greg Prange. And

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Speaker 4: it was written, Yes, this episode was written. Was so good.

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Speaker 4: And I also I have some like I have some

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Speaker 6: I love the intro, the narrative intro that we've you know,

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Speaker 6: we brought in season one heavy and it kind of

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Speaker 6: that return me too.

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Speaker 3: And it felt really nice to watch it, particularly through

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Speaker 3: your eyes, like all the things Haley's been processing, to

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Speaker 3: see this great kind of self care practice, to watch

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Speaker 3: you journaling and you know, feeling your feelings in this

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Speaker 3: really healthy way and bringing back that season one nostalgia.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, I was like, Oh, this feels

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Speaker 3: like a really nice moment to be it.

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Speaker 4: It's a clever device for emotional exposition. It's the type

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Speaker 4: of exposition I don't mind at all because it's allowing

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Speaker 4: us a peek inside Haley's head in a very organic,

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Speaker 4: believable way.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because it's just when they try and write that

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Speaker 6: stuff into dialogue usually feels pretty canned. So it's nice.

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Speaker 6: It's nice when it feels organic, you know. I like that.

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Speaker 6: And it wasn't just from Haley too. We got Mouth

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Speaker 6: doing his narration throughout as he was talking about the

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Speaker 6: different sports movies, and that felt really good and it

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Speaker 3: And it was really cool too that Mouth's podcast feels again,

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Speaker 3: so nostalgic for early high school days of him, you know,

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Speaker 3: commentating and calling games. And it's this really beautiful mirror

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Speaker 3: this story that he's telling, mirroring what's happening to Clay

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Speaker 3: though this is such a specific experience our characters are

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Speaker 3: going through, that it's sort of a tale as old

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Speaker 3: as time, right, Like someone is on the razor's edge

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Speaker 3: of will they live or will they die? And everyone

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Speaker 3: in their own way can understand that kind in a pain.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know the whole thing. I loved hearing

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Speaker 3: the narration, whether it was your journaling or his storytelling.

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Speaker 4: Also, kudos to Mouth for being way ahead of the

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Speaker 4: podcast curve. Yeah, I was so surprised. I watched that

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Speaker 4: this was great fifteen years ago. He was way ahead

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Speaker 6: Millie's reactions like, oh, you have a podcast now, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I sure do. Did fall Out Boy seeing us sing

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Speaker 4: this episode's theme song, Oh, I was wondering.

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Speaker 6: Who it was that might be it.

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Speaker 3: I was too.

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Speaker 4: I thought because we have a relationship or the show

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Speaker 4: had a relationship with Pete, maybe that was the case. Wait, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: The booth Patrick Stump, So says our producer.

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Speaker 6: A lot of shows at this time were doing this

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Speaker 3: We'll never know, never know, I will say, and this

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Speaker 6: I thought Michelle Featherstone did one coming up too that

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Speaker 6: it was much more like piano balladi could we not

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Speaker 3: I was like, maybe we should have saved this for

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Speaker 3: in this moment when we're listening to Haley's innermost emotional thoughts. No,

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Speaker 3: it felt like a really sort of disassociative choice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you're gonna make this all out boys episode,

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Speaker 4: bury it twelve minutes in.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was odd.

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Speaker 3: It was a weird choice. I want to know what

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Speaker 3: your funny questions are roun.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I bet one of them is the same.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this. This episode for me nailed everything

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Speaker 3: Okay, like, first of all.

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Speaker 4: Why is he eating pudding? And how is he eating pudding?

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Speaker 4: Clay's friend? Right, I have his name written down here,

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Speaker 4: so Will thank you. It's this odd thing right well,

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Speaker 6: First person he's mating.

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Speaker 3: It's actually really interesting because I liked that it started light.

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Speaker 3: My first note was that I really like seeing Clay

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Speaker 3: It felt really fun and upbeat, and what it did

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Speaker 3: And then I mean side note, not you know, for

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Speaker 3: so excited to see Edwin because he's like, you know,

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Speaker 6: I just was like, oh my god, my angel, and

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Speaker 3: Like it's so I don't know, it was just so

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Speaker 6: I agree with you. So if I bought it, I

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I feel like you would be so stripped of your

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Speaker 6: I mean, yes, conceptually gross, but like the essence of

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Speaker 4: And I think also Edwin was great. We only had

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Speaker 4: So please tell him I say hello, because we did.

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Speaker 4: We had fun. It was a really fun thing to

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Speaker 4: you know when you're just super lonely, like I remember.

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Speaker 4: I think it was like during COVID at one point I

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Speaker 4: interact with another human being that that poor cashier got

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Speaker 4: a thousand questions from It's like, do you like gum?

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Speaker 4: What have you been up to? How are you? Do

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Speaker 6: Fifteenth person that day who had done that too, by

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So to that end, I completely understand, Like Clayton's

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Speaker 4: was just so confused. In a later scene, why Will

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you did great, Rob. I could tell that

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Speaker 4: Day our show. I think this is probably all TV

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Speaker 4: like my hair is clearly just fresh out of hair

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00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 4: and make ye like it is. It's teased, it's feathered.

438
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,239
Speaker 6: You got the wolfman feather over your ears going on

439
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 6: during that. I mean it was a really precise.

440
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 4: Quite long sideburns as well this season. But but yeah,

441
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 4: my tube, it's just pulling on my mouth. I'm like, oh,

442
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 4: why she got the good tube? Meanwhile I looked like

443
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 4: a mess. Did you also notice when the moment when

444
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 4: Clay is finally standing in his hospital room watching himself,

445
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 4: that the obvious stand in or double that they got

446
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 4: for me had hair that did not look like mine

447
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 4: at all?

448
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 9: Yeah?

449
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 6: I missed it completely.

450
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh no, it's it's it looks like it's James's

451
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 4: stand in. Like it's very just like normal sort of

452
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,959
Speaker 4: combed over hair. It's not the bad boy, you know,

453
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Speaker 4: t z PC.

454
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Speaker 3: There really are times when going back and watching our show,

455
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, did you was the assumption just that you

456
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 3: thought no one was going to notice? Like your stand

457
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: in clearly is not even adjacent to you, and it

458
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: reminds me of that early episode Rob. This is before

459
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: you joined us with there's an early episode where I

460
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 3: don't remember what season it is now because we are

461
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 3: obviously eight years in, but James and Chad are in

462
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: a convertible together and there is a white shot of

463
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 3: the two stunt drivers and Chad stunt driver is like

464
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: a forty year old man in a wig and they

465
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: just love wigs. And we all were like, hold on,

466
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: who are those people? But particularly who is that man

467
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: who does not look anything like a teenage boy?

468
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

469
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 3: Like what, I don't know.

470
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Speaker 6: We've had a.

471
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Speaker 3: Couple of these over the years, and I'm like, guys,

472
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Speaker 3: people do people who watch shows generally watch them with

473
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 3: their eyes, so they see these mistakes you're making very

474
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 3: clearly on the camera.

475
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 4: Well, listen that the convertible bit. That's egregious like that

476
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 4: you got to get right, I will say in defense

477
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 4: of the show, Yeah, I think the average viewer is

478
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 4: so on board with the storytelling in that moment that

479
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 4: their focus isn't the silhouette of the standards, but it's

480
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 4: yeah again, because we're looking at you, yes, yes, So

481
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 4: I mean like we're nitpicking a bit. I mean, like,

482
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 4: but that convertible bit. Come on, that's the only thing

483
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 4: happening in that scene.

484
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Speaker 3: It was so bad.

485
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 4: Speaking of hospitals, how long ago did viewing windows in

486
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 4: the maternity section stop being a thing.

487
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Speaker 6: I'm so glad we're talking about this.

488
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 4: Because when I watched that, I thought, first of all,

489
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Speaker 4: I've never seen that in my lifetime that I recall. No,

490
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 4: it's wow, that's definitely anyways.

491
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Speaker 6: Yes, it was made for fathers who were not allowed

492
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Speaker 6: in the delivery rooms to go be able to look

493
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Speaker 6: at their newborn babies.

494
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but was that still happening fifteen years ago?

495
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Speaker 6: I don't think so.

496
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 3: I don't think so. But TV shows love it. Like

497
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: any TV show where there's a hospital.

498
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Speaker 6: They probably still have it on Grays right.

499
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know actually if there is one there,

500
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 3: But maybe if I think about it, I don't overlap.

501
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm that show with like maternity at all.

502
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm doing trauma surgery, so I never see

503
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 3: that side of the hospital. I'll ask Camilla shall know. Yeah,

504
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 3: but it is really it's so funny to me that,

505
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: like anytime there's any version of a family show at

506
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Speaker 3: a hospital. You gotta look through the glass at the babies.

507
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Speaker 6: All the babies that were silicone babies, except for like

508
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 6: the three that were alive, which was cute, and then

509
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 6: the one they did the close up on, who was

510
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 6: clearly like a six month old child, like not.

511
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Speaker 4: A newborn trying to crawl out.

512
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Speaker 6: That was funny.

513
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, having just recently been in a maternity ward,

514
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Speaker 4: I mean they are under a lie lockdown. Yeah, a

515
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 4: key of hospitals. Okay, so we're hearing from the booth

516
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 4: that hospitals phased out these viewing windows in the early

517
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 4: two thousands. So okay, so just before the buzzer feasible.

518
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 6: The Tree Hill one could have been. You know, it's

519
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 6: a smaller it's a small town.

520
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 3: Sure, older, older facility buy it.

521
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I buy it. But nowadays, I mean you've it's

522
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 4: it's you're not like slipping in. It's it's a process

523
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 4: to get in. All the babies were kept switched.

524
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 6: This was like a real thing. There were a lot

525
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 6: of kids that got switched at birth.

526
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: Yes, did you guys see the dateline about it?

527
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 6: How many of them?

528
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: I mean, there's probably multiple, but there's one that I

529
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: watched actually to prep for the movie that I shot

530
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: last year, because there's that's essentially what the whole story

531
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 3: revolves around. Oh and it this, I mean the stories.

532
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: It's so crazy that this used to happen to people.

533
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: Can you imagine? I mean, I guess you had to imagine.

534
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Oh dude, the amount of unpacking you have

535
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 4: to do to wrap your head around that.

536
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: What and like do you want to know or not?

537
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: Like that's such a question in the in the premise

538
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 3: of this film, because it's like, well, why would you

539
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: you know, the kids are essentially like why would you

540
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 3: tell me this? But you know now because of genetic

541
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 3: testing and all the things. It's like, it's about your health.

542
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 3: It's about your health history. And oh man, it is

543
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: just such a mind Well that took a turn.

544
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Speaker 4: Well, if you're just joining us, welcome back to Switched

545
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 4: at Birth.

546
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 6: And Ghost Pudding.

547
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 4: Nathan was awesome. This episode was I love to see,

548
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 4: like I said, I'd love to see a vulnerable dude.

549
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: I like to see a guy feeling all of his feelings.

550
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 4: It was great all of it. I love that he

551
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: wanted to volunteer for his buddy. I was confused though,

552
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 4: at when he says, I want to donate if I'm

553
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 4: you know, a good candidate, and the doctor says, if

554
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: you give him your kidney, your basketball career will be over.

555
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 6: You had no explanation on that.

556
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 4: The only thing I could think of did it have

557
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 4: to do with his degenerative back condition that he mentions

558
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 4: to you later in the episode. But the doctor doesn't

559
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 4: know about that. No, So this is the recovery from

560
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 4: a kidney just so long that.

561
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 6: It might just like take him out of the game

562
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 6: because by the time he got ready to play again,

563
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 6: he'd be too old maybe or do.

564
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: We think it's because he was in that terrible accident

565
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: and got sidelined as a player, like because he's a

566
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: hometown Here is the doctor basically like you've made it

567
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: back into the NBA once, you won't make it back

568
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: into the NBA twice. It felt like a dangle of

569
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: a carrot that really I was like, no, no, no,

570
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 3: what but what like I need more information? And it

571
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: just never came.

572
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 6: Even if Nathan had, if it was in the script

573
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Speaker 6: for him to like give the doctor a quizzical look

574
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 6: like what do you mean you know? And then we

575
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 6: could see him explaining it to Haley in the next

576
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 6: scene or something, just something would have been nice.

577
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 7: A little explanation or a very easy fix would be

578
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 7: have the doctor say instead of if you if you

579
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 7: do this, your career is over, have the doctor just say,

580
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 7: if you do this, there's a good chance your career

581
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 7: is over. Like you know what I mean, Because it

582
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 7: was just it was so definitive, and because this is

583
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 7: a doctor we've never seen on the show. It was

584
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 7: so it's like, I don't believe he's intimately aware of

585
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 7: all of Nathan's health stuff. So it was just odd

586
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 7: to me, like how definitive it was. It's also like,

587
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 7: look how young and healthy James looks. He's not a

588
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 7: forty year old still grinding it out in the league.

589
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 7: Like he's so young and in such good shape. So

590
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 7: that's what I would just confuse, Like, is it is

591
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 7: it that.

592
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: Really of a recovery.

593
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 6: Could have brought in his old doctor who also works

594
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 6: in the maternity ward. Apparently he also could work in

595
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 6: the trauma ward. I mean, this guy's just all over

596
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 6: the hospital.

597
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: I was everywhere.

598
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 6: I would have bought that too, But James.

599
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 4: Was great when we got to when there's the storyline

600
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: where James is injured and he grows the Lieutenant Dan Beard.

601
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 4: Did you guys just have a field day talking about that?

602
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: Yes?

603
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 4: That as a viewer, that was incredible.

604
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 6: That was fun.

605
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 4: We need to bring back the Beard.

606
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god, was it odd?

607
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 4: When James excuse me and Nathan Is he goes and

608
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 4: he washes Clay's car. I was like, awesome, very sweet move.

609
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: And then he's driving it and then he pulls over

610
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 4: and he walks up to Yeah, he walks over to

611
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 4: the fence to watch horses run and that's where he

612
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: breaks down.

613
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 6: I totally bought that too. I loved it. Didn't bump

614
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 6: on it for one second because it's something I would do.

615
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 6: Like you're just try you're stuck in your body when

616
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 6: you feel that kind of pain, And when I do anyway,

617
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 6: it's like, I feel like this pain that's like I

618
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 6: don't know how to get it out. Maybe I'll I'll

619
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 6: run and maybe I'll yell. That doesn't work. Maybe I'll

620
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 6: get in my car and just drive and that's not working.

621
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 6: And then I see something that's so beautiful, And often

622
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 6: it's something that's it's often beauty that will break me

623
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 6: and allow me to release the pain. Not activity or

624
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 6: being aggressive or thinking my way out of it, but

625
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 6: just standing in front of something beautiful will crack me

626
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 6: and then I'm just like a puddle. So I've I

627
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 6: related to that.

628
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 4: I love I love your explanation. That that's great. I

629
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 4: was my confusion was I felt in my head. I

630
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 4: was going, he's he's like stuffing these feelings down and

631
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: there right there simmering below the surface. And he rather

632
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 4: than just pull over and cry, He's like, I'm gonna

633
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 4: hold it together for ten more seconds so I can

634
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 4: walk over to those horses and cry while I watched

635
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 4: them run. That's why I went like this it's a

636
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 4: little TV that he was instead of just crying in

637
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: the car, He's like, nah, I want to go watch

638
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 4: these majestic creatures gallop and weep.

639
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 6: I would.

640
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: I liked it.

641
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 6: I know.

642
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: That's the thing. Like I'm such a horse girl that

643
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: when he started, when the horses started, I was like,

644
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: here it comes. It's like when you know the dog

645
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: is going to die in the in like the disaster movie.

646
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: You're just like it's gonna happen, and it's going to

647
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: ruin my whole day. Like he got out and saw

648
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: the horses and I was I was a puddle. I

649
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: was like, and there it is.

650
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

651
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 4: It would have been great if someone walked up and

652
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 4: was like, hey, mister, are you okay, and he was

653
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: just like, sir, I just love horses so much, man,

654
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 4: They're just so beautiful.

655
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 6: Oh. I did love that. I kind of wish that

656
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 6: scene would have lasted a little bit longer. I just

657
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 6: needed a little little more of a of a break

658
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 6: in it. There was because it was good for me

659
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 6: as a viewer too. I felt like I got to

660
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 6: release a little bit pain a little just watching nature

661
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 6: take its course, watching like thinking about what a cog

662
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 6: in the wheel we all are, how nothing is certain

663
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 6: and for us any more than it is for wild

664
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 6: horses in a fields.

665
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you really have to feel your helplessness. Yeah,

666
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: it's so confronting to realize that all these things that

667
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: we just think will work, we don't know, Like we

668
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: don't know anything moment to moment, and you know it,

669
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 3: I don't know the sort of respite as a viewer

670
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: getting to be with Nathan in his solitude, in his

671
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: break from it all, like getting outside and going for

672
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: a drive and realizing he wanted to be in the car,

673
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: but he didn't want to be in the car. It's

674
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 3: exactly that thing you're talking about, joy, like nothing's quite

675
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: making you feel better and you don't know which way

676
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 3: to turn next. Yeah, and getting to be quiet with

677
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: him was really nice for me in an episode that

678
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 3: was so emotional, with so much talking and so much

679
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: crying and so much information. It was like I felt

680
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: like I kind of got to take a deep breath

681
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: with him, and I thought it was a cool. Yeah,

682
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 3: it was kind of a cool device.

683
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 6: He's been holding it together for everybody for so long, Yeah,

684
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 6: since since Lydia's death.

685
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 4: Another nice counterbalance was the Brook Julian Jamie stuff. Yeah,

686
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 4: there's such a fun ease with the three of you.

687
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 4: And also, you know, because we're sort of feeling like, oh,

688
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 4: there's they're not going to be able to have kids together,

689
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 4: to see you like what natural good parents you are

690
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: to him is just and just it's just fun. You know.

691
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 4: That lightness is great.

692
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, and dialogue felt so natural too, There was nothing forced.

693
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 6: It all felt really good.

694
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was all so sweet And one of the

695
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: things I really like about it is, you know, it's

696
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: exactly what happens people go through something and you know,

697
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: it's what we talked about it when we got on

698
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: you know, at the beginning of the show, Like it's

699
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: what everyone's doing in La right now. It's like can

700
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 3: I pick up your kids? Can I bring you a meal?

701
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: Do you need me to bring you a change of clothes?

702
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 3: Like everybody needs to help when you're in crisis in

703
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 3: different ways, and even just you know, you being able

704
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: to say to me like will you just take him

705
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: for the day, Like get the kids some joy. He

706
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 3: needs some happiness. He's got to get out of here.

707
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: It's dark here. And being able to take a kid

708
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: to play and just giving him a normal day. It's

709
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 3: it's like all these different expressions of this group of

710
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 3: friends being so kind to each other and taking care

711
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: of each other. It's so sweet.

712
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 4: I left this episode feeling like, oh, this is what

713
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: the show's about. There's a lot of things happening, but

714
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 4: this is a show about friendship.

715
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

716
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, in this episode it was just very very clear,

717
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 4: front and center. But yeah, that moment we said can

718
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 4: you just take him to uh when Haley says that

719
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 4: to Brooke, I just thought, oh, like, what what a

720
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 4: luxury it is to have someone that you trust and

721
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 4: love enough to just take your kid for a day

722
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 4: and to ask that of them and have them go

723
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 4: I got you. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be great.

724
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: And it was really sweet too, to get out, you know,

725
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: on the baseball field, Like I remember that day. I

726
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: remember the temperature.

727
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 6: Sports attire on brook Is like a favorite I didn't

728
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 6: know that I needed in my life. I'm like, why

729
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 6: has she not been designing sports attire? This was such

730
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 6: a good look for you beside the point, but go ahead, No,

731
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 6: it was so fun.

732
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: And the funny part is we only had one of

733
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: those hats the coverbe orange chats. We made one and

734
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: when we wrapped, I kept it. And then during the

735
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: early days of the pandemic, when I was fostering dogs

736
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: trying to just like help the city, one of the

737
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: puppies chewed up the bill of my hat and I

738
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 3: was like, no, like, I've kept this hat pristine for

739
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: ten years, and then it wound up in a in

740
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: a puppy's mouth and got shredded, and I.

741
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 6: Was like, there would still wear it? Yeah?

742
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 3: I was like, I mean I still have it, and

743
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: you know me, I'm so like emotionally attached to things.

744
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: But I I was definitely like, oh, look at look

745
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: at my hat before it got destroyed. It was cute.

746
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: I liked it. I also like that Jamie has baseball skills,

747
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: but he's like, no, I want to I want to

748
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: play basketball like my dad. The one thing I thought

749
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: we didn't do that we should have was like, be like,

750
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: but buddy, you're like you're short like your mom, baseball

751
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 3: might have to be your thing. Kid, Like, be realistic, kid,

752
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 3: I just I just don't know if it's in the

753
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: cards for you to be in the NBA.

754
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 6: Buddy, Yeah, that would have been fun to see Julian

755
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 6: just sort of take him into his wing.

756
00:38:59,640 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: There.

757
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 6: Let me give you a little practical advice. I'm young

758
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 6: one speaking of friendship and just the modeling of what

759
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 6: that looks like. I mean, Nathan making being willing to

760
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 6: make such a huge sacrifice. That's a massive sacrifice to

761
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 6: be willing to give up the potential of your dream,

762
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 6: even though his dream seemed like it was waning and

763
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 6: you know, had a ceiling on it, time limit on it.

764
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 6: To still do that for a friend, To save a

765
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 6: friend's life is an incredible statement of character. And so

766
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 6: many other things and Victoria taking on the sacrifice of responsibility,

767
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 6: I guess, or not not passing the buck and making

768
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 6: sure that she says to Brook and the diner in

769
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 6: the beginning, uh, somebody who spoke to somebody else who

770
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 6: spoke to half of the federal government wrote out there like,

771
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,479
Speaker 6: you know, we we've just dealt with it. We've talked

772
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 6: to everybody in the government, just everyone out there in

773
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 6: the government. All of them solved it all.

774
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, all of her stuff was great, but my favorite

775
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: was the last shot of her walking into the big.

776
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 6: Yes.

777
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: I wrote it down to. I was like, it's pure

778
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: poetry for Victoria.

779
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 6: I'll tell you who I'm not worried about in prison,

780
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 6: Victoria Davis absolutely be just fine.

781
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: And her laughing that it's like, you know, it's it's

782
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 3: essentially what did she say, It's essentially a country club.

783
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, Martha Stewart, it's prison mother.

784
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 6: I wrote that one down to so good, it's essentially

785
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 6: a country club.

786
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: It's so funny. What I would have given, not that

787
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: she probably would have wanted to do it, but she's

788
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: also so cool. Maybe she would have what I would

789
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 3: have given for them to have gotten a scene between

790
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: Victoria Davis and Martha Stewart in their fancy, high end

791
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: white collar prison.

792
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 6: Like I would give anything that would have been worth

793
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 6: every amount of money that they would have put onto Yeah,

794
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 6: like just.

795
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: Take the budget of season nine, Martha take it.

796
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, please for one cameo.

797
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: Give Victoria the prison tips because clearly Martha Stewart like

798
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 3: crushed her prison's.

799
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: Day for sure.

800
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 6: What would oh man, what would the lines have been

801
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 6: like the dialogue would have been Victoria walking in and

802
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 6: seeing her like the just the hattiness between the two

803
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 6: of them. They would have come out bff.

804
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she prison changed certain well air quotes, prison

805
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 4: changed her for the better. I mean she came out

806
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 4: and then did a cooking show with Snoop Dogg.

807
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh they're best friends. Oh yeah, it's adorable

808
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 3: when this is going to be like the weirdest thing

809
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: I've ever said. But you guys know, I'm a nerdy

810
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: climate science person and years ago I got to visit

811
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: the Global Seed Vault in Norway and it was like

812
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 3: the coolest thing I've ever done. And of course, like

813
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: in this group of fifty people who got to sit

814
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 3: with all these experts and talk about the future of food.

815
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: Martha Stewart flew in for a day and walked in

816
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 3: and I was like, you're literally the most beautiful person

817
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: I've ever seen in my life. I want you to

818
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: tell me how to do everything, Like I have so

819
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 3: many questions that I froze. I don't think I spoke

820
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 3: for like the first half of the one day that

821
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: she was there with us, and we're in we're like

822
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: essentially in a glacier talking about the seeds being protected

823
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 3: for the global food supply, and I show you not.

824
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: Martha's Stewart looks at this scientist and goes, you know,

825
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: my friend Snoop Dog, if he were here, would ask

826
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: why you guys are not storing marijuana seeds yet It's

827
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 3: an incredibly important plant, not only for flora and fauna

828
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: but medicine. So what are your plans there? And I

829
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 3: was like, I've truly just witnessed probably the coolest thing

830
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: that will ever happen to me in my life, and

831
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: I will I will remember it forever, and I don't

832
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 3: think I'll ever see something this neat like ever again anywhere.

833
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 3: And I was like, Oh, it's like really a thing.

834
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: She's like asking expert scientists. She cares for information she

835
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: can take home and relate a snoop about how we're

836
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 3: going to protect marijuana plants ten out of ten, ten

837
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: out of ten. This is why I'm like, I need

838
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 3: a Victoria Davis Murtha Stewart crossover in my life. I

839
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: just actually think, I actually think I just need more

840
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: Mirtha Stewart.

841
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 6: Where is that show? Now? Could we just do that?

842
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 6: Like Victoria had to go to prison again and when

843
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 6: she came out, I mean, I guess it was too

844
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 6: long ago. Dang, but please, where is that show?

845
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 4: In my notes, say I have Victoria Goes to the

846
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 4: Big House. This is the spinoff I want?

847
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: Yes?

848
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so yeahbe guys, let's add it to me notes.

849
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 6: Let's Donny still looks exactly the same. We'll just pick

850
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 6: up right where we left off. Yeah.

851
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 3: I love it. It's also so sweet having this moment

852
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: between Brooke and Victoria. Yeah. The thing that kind of

853
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: made me go, oh, you know, I remember thinking, wait,

854
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: Victoria is going to go to prison. I forgot about this.

855
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: But the thing that really hit me was seeing how

856
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: far their relationship has come. When I get to look

857
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: at her and say, I don't want.

858
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 4: You to go.

859
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, like this girl who had no relationship with her

860
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: mom for so long, they're in such a wonderful place

861
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: that she doesn't want to lose her and it, you know,

862
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: to your point earlier, this the best of our show

863
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: is when it's about these friendships and these relationships, and

864
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: it's so cool to see the growth between these two

865
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: women and the fact that they genuinely like being together.

866
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 6: I felt that in uh when you were just saying

867
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 6: goodbye to her at the prison. You drove her to

868
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 6: the gate and you got out of your car, and

869
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 6: the way you were standing, you were like pigeon toed

870
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 6: and your arms are just straight down at your side.

871
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 6: It was such a normbal sweet little girl posture, like

872
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 6: a little girl losing her mom again.

873
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 9: So sad.

874
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: I've been loving Victoria this season and her becoming a

875
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 4: mom to you, but I found myself wondering. So it's

876
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 4: obviously it's landing and having an effect on me, but

877
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 4: I found myself wondering how the payoff must have been

878
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: even better for everyone that's watched the show at this point,

879
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 4: because what I've missed is how many seasons of her

880
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 4: not being a good mom to you? Yeah, so the

881
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 4: payoff must have been extraordinary for like proper fans from

882
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 4: day one, right.

883
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, legendarily the worst other than Dan Scott, like

884
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 6: the worst parent in tree Hill, just completely abandoned, didn't

885
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 6: show up, would float in, float out, drop her kid

886
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 6: off here like boardings. I don't think she ever went

887
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 6: to boarding school, but you know, like here on this vacation,

888
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 6: let me move in with families. Yeah, just like whatever,

889
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 6: I don't care. I mean, she just did not raise you.

890
00:45:59,360 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 7: Yeah.

891
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you're right, big huge payoffs. That's one of

892
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 6: the great benefits of a show that lasts this long.

893
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 6: You really can't stretch those out. So good.

894
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 4: How about honorable mention?

895
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Will Edwin's was just he was just so great.

896
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 6: His performance was so beautiful and really grounding, and I'm

897
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 6: so glad we had a space to let Clay talk

898
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 6: and not just to himself or to people who couldn't

899
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 6: hear him, but really have a dialogue with somebody. That

900
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,479
Speaker 6: was great. Yeah.

901
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 4: I co sign it's Edwin for me as well.

902
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 9: Yeah.

903
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 3: Okay, Well we've got a question and it reads Hello,

904
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: this is Vecer. My question for Joy and Sophia is

905
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: about the contest that phone company Vanage ran for season two.

906
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: Wait What Viewers got to vote via text message to

907
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: decide whether or not Nathan.

908
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 6: Would cheat on Haley with Taylor.

909
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: The question is, was there actually a scene filmed where

910
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 3: Nathan and Taylor kissed or were the votes tallied up

911
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 3: before the decision was made to film either of those scenes?

912
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: Do you remember this?

913
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 6: I do not remember this. I don't. I don't either,

914
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 6: And I wonder if maybe it.

915
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: Was just rus maybe they said it might happen, but

916
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: they never intended on it. I don't actually know, but

917
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 3: that wouldn't surprise me if they were like, oh, we're

918
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 3: going to do this big thing for press, and we'll

919
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 3: just say that the fans voted no, no matter what.

920
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 3: I don't know.

921
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah. Are they legally allowed to do that? I

922
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 6: don't know. I mean, if you as a business, if

923
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 6: you say that you're going to do if you're like

924
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 6: selling a product based on obviously it happens all the time.

925
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 6: But I don't know what. I don't know what the

926
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 6: rules are there. I don't know.

927
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 3: I don't either.

928
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 6: Well, but it's also not.

929
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: I mean, it's I guess, yes, we're filming the show.

930
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 3: The outcome potentials are real, but you know, it's not

931
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 3: like a Dancing with the Stars or something where you're

932
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 3: voting for people who make it based on the votes

933
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: in real time.

934
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean, we had to have the writer's room,

935
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 6: we had to schedule actors, we had to I wonder

936
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 6: if James will remember maybe they did film two scenes.

937
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: I think we should text him and ask, yeah, I

938
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: don't you guys have your phone on it.

939
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 4: But it's also pretty hollywood to like propose something like

940
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 4: that with no actual intention of falling through. Do you

941
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 4: remember the Yeah, George Clooney Batman is called Batman and Robin. Yeah,

942
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 4: there was a ton of press for it at the

943
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 4: time because they said, we don't we want an unknown

944
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 4: for Robin. So we are opening casting calls around the

945
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 4: nation in all the major cities to unearth our next Robin.

946
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 4: And do you know who ended up being Robin Chris O'Donnell.

947
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 3: Opposite of an unknown.

948
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 4: Yes, In fact, Marlon Wayne's was Robin first, and then

949
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 4: he went out for creative differences and then cryst O Donald.

950
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 4: So they had two cracks at it. After seeing the nation,

951
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: it went, nah, we're gonna stick with the known commodity.

952
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 3: Well, not a bad decision though. Chrys o'donald was.

953
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 4: Great, infinitely likable, infinitely should we spin a wheel, Let's

954
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 4: do it.

955
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: I like seeing them all go by, some of the

956
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 3: other spinning really funny.

957
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 4: Most likely to accidentally text the wrong group chat. I

958
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 4: tell you what, it's the kind of mistake you'll only

959
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 4: make once. Yeah, because it is. I did it once

960
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 4: and it was mortifying. Except it wasn't even a group.

961
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 4: I text the guy I.

962
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: Was texting about was talking about him.

963
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Oh my gosh, I called him out by name.

964
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 4: I was like, hey, so and so, Like I said

965
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 4: something like so and so is inviting himself so hard.

966
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 4: It's like he's organizing the event.

967
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 3: Oh my god, brother, I want to die.

968
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 4: This was a long time ago, but still, and I

969
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 4: had to are.

970
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 6: You guys still friends?

971
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 4: Uh no, no no, that wasn't what ended it, though,

972
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 4: But I immediately was like, hey, sorry, but I'll never forget.

973
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 4: I was standing in I was in Spain, studying abroad,

974
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 4: standing in a grocery store, trying to check out multitasking

975
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 4: and just wasn't thinking sent the text, and then immediately

976
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: was like all the blood dreamed from my body got Nope.

977
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 6: I've texted my ex love you babe. That was meant

978
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 6: for my current boyfriend at the time. Reply yeah, no,

979
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 6: I mean it was just like I followed up like, sorry,

980
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 6: that wasn't for you.

981
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 4: For you, He's like, take me out of your phone.

982
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 4: This is the tenth time you've done this. It hurts

983
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 4: every time. Oh no, you got to change that name

984
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 4: if they're too similar. Thrown emoji at front of the word.

985
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 6: It was just that I was I had to be

986
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 6: talking to both of them around the same on the

987
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 6: same day for different reasons, and just went have you

988
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 6: ever die?

989
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: I had someone do that with me, and I was like, oh,

990
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: And it was really interesting because it was someone who

991
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 3: was a friend for a while and then when our

992
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: show started, was not a friend anymore because you know,

993
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 3: I don't know, probably weird, and you know, we were

994
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: all in our early twenties. It's like, I think weird

995
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 3: when one of your friends like winds up on a

996
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: giant cult classic TV show whatever. But we had a

997
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 3: mutual friend for a long time who had invited this

998
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 3: person to a birthday that I also went to. And

999
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 3: since this person just like is not involved in our

1000
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 3: group of high school friends at all, because my friend

1001
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 3: who hosted the birthday was like she's a mean girl,

1002
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 3: Like why are we continuing to try to do this?

1003
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: Like we're just bad at boundaries. But at my friend's birthday,

1004
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 3: this like sort of ex friend got very inebriated and

1005
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 3: cried about feeling so horrible about like these things that

1006
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 3: had happened and whatever, and I was like, wow, that's

1007
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 3: really nice, Like we should maybe make a plan. Another

1008
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 3: friend was getting married, so I was like, we had

1009
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: this whole conversation about like maybe around so and so's

1010
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: bridal shower, we'll like get a coffee and talk and

1011
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: see if there's like salvaging to do here. So around

1012
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 3: the bridle shower, I texted her and was like, hey,

1013
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: like let's, you know, see if we're going to get

1014
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 3: the coffee. And she sent a screenshot of the text

1015
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 3: to me, meaning to obviously send it to someone else,

1016
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 3: being like I have no idea what she's talking about.

1017
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, you literally don't remember that

1018
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 3: you like got drunk and cried at a bar and

1019
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 3: went on this like apology tour with me and a

1020
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 3: bunch of our other friends. You don't remember, And she

1021
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 3: had meant to text a friend being like what basically

1022
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 3: was like, what the fuck is she talking about? And

1023
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: I was like, well, I think this is talking about

1024
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 3: anything anymore. I was like, not nothing anymore, actually at all.

1025
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 4: Sophia has left the chat.

1026
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was just like, and I'm gonna I'm just

1027
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 3: gonna leave this there for you.

1028
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,479
Speaker 6: I'm gonna start using that wrong. Joy has left the chat.

1029
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1030
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 6: I just actually type it out.

1031
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 3: Yep, that's what you should send to your ex. Joy.

1032
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: Joy has left the chat.

1033
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 4: I mean like, in the world of texting the wrong person,

1034
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 4: she got off really easy.

1035
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1036
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 4: Like I heard a story recently of a of a

1037
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 4: woman who was wearing her Apple Watch. It was actually

1038
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 4: a post. It was a warning on instagramm or. She

1039
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 4: was saying, Hey, turn off Siria on your Apple Watch.

1040
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 4: She's crying. She's like, this just happened to me. I

1041
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 4: was talking to my husband about someone at my work,

1042
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 4: a colleague, and Siri heard me, dictated the entire thing

1043
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 4: and sent it to the person. No, She's like, so

1044
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 4: my colleague just got this lamethy text of me venting

1045
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: everything that annoys me about this person.

1046
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 6: Guys, we have to be careful with robots. They are

1047
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 6: taking over. We cannot underestimate the robots.

1048
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 4: What if this is what it is. What if it's

1049
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 4: not that the robots get guns and hunt us like

1050
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 4: a terminator. It's just the robots airing out all of our.

1051
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 6: Talking social jenocide, like just just murders all all of

1052
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 6: us socially. We have no social life anymore, totally incapable.

1053
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 3: And that's the thing, Like, even when you think about

1054
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 3: that woman's experience, oh my god, I'm devastated for her.

1055
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: Because of course you're going to vent to your spouse.

1056
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 3: You might just need to get it out. You might

1057
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 3: just need to say all the things in bitch and moan,

1058
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,959
Speaker 3: and then the next day you feel fine. No one's

1059
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: ever supposed to know about that stuff.

1060
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 4: No, And it's your partner that is your safest place,

1061
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 4: which means you were going to use the most heinous

1062
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 4: language and colorful words.

1063
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 6: It's it's all the things you don't mean. It's all

1064
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 6: the things you don't really mean. It's like you just

1065
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 6: have to get them out of your body, and you

1066
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 6: be like, okay, actually I can be more reasonable. I

1067
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 6: can see it from this perspective, I can whatever whatever.

1068
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 6: But you have to like, get it out for it's all.

1069
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 6: It's like acting. You got to get out the bad

1070
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 6: ideas first and then you arrive at something totally and

1071
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 6: that's okay.

1072
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: But it's not supposed to be broadcast.

1073
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 4: So this is our listeners.

1074
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, write us in and tell us your most embarrassing

1075
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 6: accidental text stories.

1076
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 4: Yes, apparently there's an automatically send messages button UNDERSERI in

1077
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 4: the Apple Watch. So if you have an Apple Watch off,

1078
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 4: turn that all the way off.

1079
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 6: Oh yeah yeah yeah. So officially our answer to this,

1080
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 6: to this wheel, though, is everyone, because we've all done

1081
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 6: it and it only happens once before you realize how

1082
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 6: careful you have to be, right, yeah, yes, yes, Oh.

1083
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 3: My god, you guys, the like icky feeling in my

1084
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 3: chest right now for every all of these stories, I

1085
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 3: just the stress. I feel awful.

1086
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 6: I have another one for you, but I can't say

1087
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 6: it on the air. I'm when we're done, i'll tell

1088
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 6: you guys.

1089
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, oh you just pissed off all the listeners,

1090
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 4: but I am so excited.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know what.

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Speaker 3: Our next episode is really appropriately titled Season eight, Episode four.

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00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 4: We all fall down by sending the wrong.

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Speaker 3: Text message exactly exactly stupid Siri.

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Speaker 6: Well, thanks for hanging out, everybody. See you next week. Love,

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Speaker 6: Let's see you next week. Hey, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also

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Speaker 3: follow us on Instagram at Drama Queens O t.

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Speaker 6: H or email us at Drama Queens at iHeartRadio dot com.

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Speaker 6: See you next time. We all about that.

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00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: High school drama. Girl, Drama Girl, all about them.

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00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 3: High school queens.

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Speaker 2: We'll take you for a ride at our comic Girl

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00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: Cheering for the right teams.

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Speaker 6: Drama Queens, My girl Fashion.

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00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: What's your tough girl?

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Speaker 1: You could sit with us Girl Drama Queens, Drama, Queense

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Speaker 1: Drama Queens Drama, Drama Queens Drama Queens