WEBVTT - Dear Banya: In Our Game Era

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<v Speaker 1>Scrubbing In with Becka Tilly and Tanya rad and iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 1>and two times People's Choice Award winning podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in full shaky, What hard Buddy?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Rato? Any new songs you're listening to right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I've just been listening to the new Grazy Gabrahms album

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<v Speaker 1>A lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Which songs do you love?

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<v Speaker 1>I love them all? Honestly, I don't skip. I love

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<v Speaker 1>MIDI Bar well, Yeah, I mean that's like the standout

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<v Speaker 1>Star and look at My Life and hit the Wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are like the standouts. But I really don't skip,

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<v Speaker 1>weirdly because a lot of them are slow and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really I'm not like my ballad Era, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>all really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ballad Era have you. So there's a trend right

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<v Speaker 2>now where people will take they're taking photos of the

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<v Speaker 2>fall of like twenty twenty two, and they're like, I

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<v Speaker 2>took this on my walk back from class listening and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like during the mid Night's release.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that was a great fall twenty twenty two when.

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<v Speaker 2>Midnights came out, Just like I love a Taylor Swush release.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a trend right now.

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<v Speaker 2>What a weird thing, just like people sick with nostalgia

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<v Speaker 2>for like a specific time, place and feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>My trend I'm seeing right now this is probably old,

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<v Speaker 1>but like the picture of yourself that could be a

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah going around. Oh so it's still current.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I just see it on stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Just maybe in a few months maybe maybe maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, this podcast is going to turn

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<v Speaker 1>nine years old in September, and I think we need

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<v Speaker 1>to have like some sort of something, okay, like like

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<v Speaker 1>a party, like a party, perhaps like a revam. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>we should do a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know how long. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>have like a month to figure this out. But if

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<v Speaker 2>we did, like a little mini live show rent the

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<v Speaker 2>Roxy again.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you out of your mind? What? First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>those things take so much time to prepare, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>just whittle it away in a month. And second of all.

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<v Speaker 2>You're overestimating a little live show that that's not even

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<v Speaker 2>a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think the whole reason why we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do any more live shows is because they didn't do well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, No need to squash my dreams. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so sorry, just because I'm a dreamer.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm gonna let you plan it then, So in September, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not gonna plan it, but I would be down to

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<v Speaker 2>do something to celebrate. Yeah, almost a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally almost a decade, Like that's crazy. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll look into something. Maybe just have a little

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<v Speaker 1>party that day for the podcast. I'm not sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling the vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking of something that involves scrubbers, as they

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<v Speaker 2>are the reason we have had nine years of scrubbing it.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe this is I was pitching if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>plan it, but all me, No, I'm not a planner.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I know, but I do think we could.

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<v Speaker 2>Put a little something, a little podcast in the park

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<v Speaker 2>or something that'd be.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is, maybe we just do like an

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<v Speaker 1>unofficial like Oh okay, okay, yeah, oh I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>got like a whole full ticketed like thing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was joking about the roxy that was just.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a podcast in the park is super cute. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a little Sunday soire. Let's get the dates, get the

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<v Speaker 1>date of our actual thing anniversary, and then we can yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>chill do like a little chill something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll do a little uh session.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it called Sunday session?

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<v Speaker 2>No, what's it called when you make plans in your brainstorm?

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<v Speaker 2>A brainstorm session?

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<v Speaker 1>Brainstorm session.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, we have a Dear Bonnie episode where.

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<v Speaker 1>She just wants to get straight in. We're to fun

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<v Speaker 1>fodder for Becca.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to decide if we wanted to do a

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<v Speaker 2>game at the end, and Tanya last week or on Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well, some people don't like it, some like it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, you know what, We're going to do

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<v Speaker 2>it for those who like it, and if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>like it, then we'll just tell you when we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do it and you can just.

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<v Speaker 1>In the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's just how life works sometimes, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to give you the option. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say it's starting now if you want to play along.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you, love to have you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm listening to the notes, you know, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is if you listen too much to

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<v Speaker 2>the notes, then you have fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Year Oh no, But I think the notes are helping.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're guiding this game into a path. Like

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<v Speaker 1>people did enjoy the one by one, but because it

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<v Speaker 1>was like.

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<v Speaker 2>I hated this format, So you're going to have people

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<v Speaker 2>who it said that someone commented I hated this format.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that person I saw more appreciation for the one

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<v Speaker 1>on one.

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<v Speaker 2>All I'm saying is we'll just do it. What what

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<v Speaker 2>the majority ones, and then if they want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a part of it, great and if not, the it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just in our game era.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we are. Games are fun and light.

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<v Speaker 2>They're really fun. They're light. Tanya needs light, so y'all

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<v Speaker 2>quit dampening Tanya's lightness.

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<v Speaker 1>I need light and I need levity.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're taking away Tanya's levity when we just need games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes for our non competitive queen. Yes, so many years

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<v Speaker 2>ago as she said she's not competitive.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I lose every week and yet I'm coming

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<v Speaker 1>back here.

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<v Speaker 2>But you care?

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<v Speaker 1>I do care.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's good. It's growth. If we're not growing, what

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<v Speaker 2>are we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>My point exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>I know? Okay, shall we get started?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>You want to start? Do you want me to?

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't I start? Now? Why don't you start?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to do the third one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I'm in my forties and have been on and

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<v Speaker 2>off the dating apps for years since my last serious relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>I recently met a guy on Hinge who was married

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty years and has been divorced for about a

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<v Speaker 2>year and a half. We've only been seeing each other

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<v Speaker 2>for three three weeks, but he's very secure, knows he

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<v Speaker 2>wants a relationship and isn't afraid to show it. Dating

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<v Speaker 2>in my forties has made me more of an overthinker

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<v Speaker 2>and cautiously optimistic. We agree on all the big things

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<v Speaker 2>and everything feels so easy. But he's definitely more confident

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<v Speaker 2>about us than I am. At this point, I'm curious

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<v Speaker 2>how Becca let her guard down with Hailey. We're either

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<v Speaker 2>of you ever in a relationship where one person fell

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<v Speaker 2>all the way in while the other needed more time

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<v Speaker 2>even though they were really interested. Also, I'm definitely not

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<v Speaker 2>a Tanya. Oh but he is. He's already brought me flowers,

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<v Speaker 2>cute cards, and even dog treats for my two dogs. Tanya,

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<v Speaker 2>what are some of the little things you did earlier

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<v Speaker 2>on that Robbie really appreciated you. Both are such a

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<v Speaker 2>refreshing break in my week. Thank you so nice, so nice, Gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I just never had my guard up with Haley, I

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<v Speaker 2>was just so in, so fast, so scary. But I

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<v Speaker 2>also think like sometimes it's a I think for some

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<v Speaker 2>people sometimes it's a slow burn. It wasn't for me

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<v Speaker 2>with my relationship or Falie, and it wasn't for you either,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think I get it. I think the older

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<v Speaker 2>you get, the more you have your way of doing things,

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<v Speaker 2>the more you're cautious about who you let in. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think the more time that goes by where you're

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<v Speaker 2>not opening yourself up and opening your heart, the more

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<v Speaker 2>inward you go. I think that's just the natural thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think people can get very comfortable being

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<v Speaker 1>single totally.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. Yeah, so having someone coming in

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<v Speaker 2>and doing nice things for you but also kind of

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<v Speaker 2>taking up your time and space probably does feel almost

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<v Speaker 2>like threatening in a way to this like version of

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<v Speaker 2>yourself that you've gotten so used to. So I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be super hard on yourself. But I also feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you really like him and you're interested in him,

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<v Speaker 2>I wantn't necessarily let it scare you off. But I

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<v Speaker 2>also don't want you to get love bombed like that

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<v Speaker 2>happens too.

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<v Speaker 1>So does it sound like he's of bombing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, like there's a fine line, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>of doing all the nice things and then it being

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<v Speaker 2>loved bombing. But what were some of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>you did for Robbie that he appreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>I always like had This is like so silly because

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<v Speaker 1>like he doesn't eat Reese's pieces like you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>like I always took notes on the things that he liked.

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<v Speaker 1>So Reeseist pieces, those little like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, almost like an eminem b yes pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>Those were like his favorite candy, So I always like

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<v Speaker 1>had those in my apartment. There was like a green

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<v Speaker 1>juice he got from Creation, Like I would have like

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<v Speaker 1>the green juice there for him. I knew his favorite

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<v Speaker 1>type of apple, so I would always have like his

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<v Speaker 1>favorite type of apple there. I knew if he was

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<v Speaker 1>coming over, like on a Friday afternoon, and I knew

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<v Speaker 1>we were like going to get drinks or something, I

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<v Speaker 1>would always have or we were like going out, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have his favorite like drink ready for him when

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<v Speaker 1>he got to my apartment. I would leave him like

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<v Speaker 1>little notes. One night one time he came over and

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<v Speaker 1>I like left a bunch of different like notes, like

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<v Speaker 1>like one card in the kitchen and then like then

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<v Speaker 1>your next one is upstairs on the bed, and then

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<v Speaker 1>like I left him like little things and we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>like a paint, little paint thing upstairs, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, quite romantic, very thoughtful.

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<v Speaker 1>It was also the pandemic, so I would go all

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<v Speaker 1>out for these things.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, your dates were in the house. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's like I definitely feel like I was in

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<v Speaker 2>uh like I felt like with Robert, my guard was

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<v Speaker 2>very much up. I felt very prideful of my almost

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<v Speaker 2>like stoicism towards relationships. Like I felt almost like you

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<v Speaker 2>can't break down my wall. Yeah, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why he was so patient, and what a what a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful patient man he was, because I was is yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well I haven't seen him in a long time, but

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<v Speaker 2>at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine him, I'm he's still patient.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's I think it's okay to let

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<v Speaker 2>your guard down, because even if this isn't your person,

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<v Speaker 2>and even if it's like he ends up not being

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<v Speaker 2>the guy or being not as wonderful as you think

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<v Speaker 2>he is, you don't even you're you're not even gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give yourself a chance to experience something great if you're

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<v Speaker 2>so closed off so I think it can feel scary,

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<v Speaker 2>but the worst that can happen is you move on.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how to put my guard up.

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<v Speaker 2>Your guard is like locked, and it's like locked on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Down my guard. My guard doesn't even know how to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the cage. So I can't I can't

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<v Speaker 1>help there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think just just enjoy it. And also, you've only

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<v Speaker 2>been dating for three weeks, and I don't think you

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<v Speaker 2>should close if you're like not one hundred percent in

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<v Speaker 2>on this guy. I don't think you should close yourself

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<v Speaker 2>off to meeting other people. You don't have to spread

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<v Speaker 2>your seed, but I think you can not put all

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<v Speaker 2>your eggs in one basket. Yes, disperse your eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but not figure not literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, your not your eggs. Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It always goes back there for me. Anyways, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do Janelle next, just because I want to do that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you can do the honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're skipping around, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm picking and choosing, all right. This is from Jenelle.

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<v Speaker 1>This is mainly for Tanya, my fellow fair skin queen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm extremely pale with dark hair, similar to Sophia Carson.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been using self tanner and getting spray tan since

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<v Speaker 1>I was eighteen and I'm thirty six now. It's exhausting,

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly, I hate feeling like I have to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>My pale skin keeps me from wearing dresses, shorts, and swimsuits,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really affects my confidence. When I skip the

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<v Speaker 1>self tanner, people always comment on how white I look.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so discouraging. I'm actually in tears writing this because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get ready for date night and I

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<v Speaker 1>hate how I look without a tan. I'm working through

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<v Speaker 1>this in therapy, but I'm hoping Tanya might have some

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<v Speaker 1>encouraging words. So it's so crazy because I who used

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<v Speaker 1>to get ray tans all the time, and then once

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<v Speaker 1>I realized how toxic they were, I stopped getting them.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to say I won't dabble. I might even get

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<v Speaker 1>one this week, that's right. So I don't like swear

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<v Speaker 1>them off. I'm just doing them, not as often as

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<v Speaker 1>I used to. In moderation, if you will, but me too.

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<v Speaker 1>My skin is like the color of milk. My legs

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<v Speaker 1>are the color of milk. Sometimes tanner, well, I am

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<v Speaker 1>a little tann right now. It's still from Cabo and

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<v Speaker 1>I also like walk outside, it's like a bazillion degree,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have a little bit of a tan. But

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<v Speaker 1>my legs, no, no, no, my legs are as white

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<v Speaker 1>as as white as a cloud. I mean, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying I don't it's pretty white anyways, Janelle,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. Who cares what people think about your legs?

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<v Speaker 1>We all have different Like if your legs aren't too white,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have viicos veins. If you don't have vericose veins,

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<v Speaker 1>then your skin is blotchy. If your skin's not blotchy,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have razor burn. If you don't have razor burn,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have ingrown hairs on your bikini line. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like everybody has something, I

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<v Speaker 1>can guarantee you, even people that you look at and

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<v Speaker 1>you think, oh my gosh, they're probably so confident they

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<v Speaker 1>have whatever in their head, you know, cell you light,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it may be. And I just think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sound so silly, but I think you should practice doing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff with like shorts on, like going to the things

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<v Speaker 1>that are like low stakes, not going on dates with

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<v Speaker 1>shorts on, but like going to the store with shorts on.

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<v Speaker 1>Good doing exposure therapy, because and then you're gonna just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, why have I been wearing pants? Or like

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<v Speaker 1>why do I I just think the more you do something,

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<v Speaker 1>the more it becomes just like a habit.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when someone if someone makes a clummet, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you should just own it and be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I take really good care of my skin so that

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<v Speaker 2>I stay looking younger longer.

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<v Speaker 1>People tell me all the time, WHOA, you're so white?

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<v Speaker 1>This all the time my friends. I'm like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>your legs are so pale.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'd like to clarify I've never.

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<v Speaker 1>Once I think you have one. I have never said that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not offended by it. I'm my legs haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen the light of days since like January twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when you go, should I do a spray tin?

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't want to, but my legs look so pale.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, do what you want if you feel good

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<v Speaker 2>with your legs looking all Like.

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<v Speaker 1>All I'm saying is people comment on how white I

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<v Speaker 1>look often, and I don't care, Like I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like I know I haven't like, I haven't gone

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<v Speaker 1>my legs haven't seen the light of day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jane, this is like one of those things where

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about this on the podcast before, but like

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<v Speaker 2>when someone has kids and they are going on dates

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<v Speaker 2>and they feel like they have to, they almost are

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<v Speaker 2>like ashamed to say that they have kids instead of

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<v Speaker 2>being confident about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's like play it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I are you Janelle? Or am I? No? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No not?

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<v Speaker 1>You know like what the kids saying, Well, let's do

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<v Speaker 1>let's do you know? Okay? Fine, fine, fine, you know

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bet you know? Okay, no you okay? Because this

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<v Speaker 1>is your the guy on the date.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, how do you know? Hi? Am I supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, like, wow, you you're like your legs are so pale?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I do you know you look beautiful? Whoa, your

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<v Speaker 2>legs are really pale?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, tell me about I haven't been on vacation

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think vacation is the no, well no, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think she needs to be on vacation in

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<v Speaker 2>the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>The only time my skin sees the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think she like I think she's protective of

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<v Speaker 2>her skin, is what I'm sensing. Oh, or maybe she

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<v Speaker 2>just doesn't tand maybe she just burns, so maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>It is harder. Yeah, this is harder than I thought. Jane,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad we're playing this out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, you know you look beautiful. Oh your legs

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<v Speaker 2>are really pale.

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<v Speaker 1>I know is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. That that's one way to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. I watched me in thirty years without the

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<v Speaker 1>wrinkly wrinkles over my knees, wondering.

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<v Speaker 2>If okay, I'm really trying to play that. I want

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<v Speaker 2>I want her to know what to say if someone

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<v Speaker 2>ever says.

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<v Speaker 1>That again, is on a date. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just she's more self conscious about it. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>the guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not saying that's I'm saying. But she said people

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<v Speaker 2>have said it, and so have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Oh my gosh, I've heard it

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<v Speaker 1>time and time again.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you should just say, yeah, you should see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens when I go in the sun. I burn

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<v Speaker 2>like crazy and I'm just I'm rocking it, just like

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<v Speaker 2>own what you're doing, Like own the fact that you're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always done spray TNDS and I'm I'm this is

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<v Speaker 2>my exposure therapy, and I want to like feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>in my skin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the whole thing. And it's so much

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<v Speaker 2>easier said than done. I know, like when confidence about something,

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<v Speaker 2>but just know that you are protecting your skin. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's other people who are just like worship the sun

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<v Speaker 2>and their skin does not look good. And I I

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<v Speaker 2>bet your beautiful light skin looks so healthy and fresh

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<v Speaker 2>and you're taking care of yourself, which is important. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think on special occasions, like if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to put self tanner on, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a bad thing, like makeup on because I

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<v Speaker 2>want to feel better. Yeah, it's like make up for

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<v Speaker 2>your body. But I think if you're tired of doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>I also think it's important to love who you are

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<v Speaker 2>without that. And I think that's the practice of like

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<v Speaker 2>leaning into the confidence of the journey of getting confident

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<v Speaker 2>about your skin tone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like you said, she said she's working on

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<v Speaker 1>it in therapy. I think that's like a huge that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be huge for you. Just like talking it

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<v Speaker 1>out because at the end of the day, it really

0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.920
<v Speaker 1>is your mindset. Your mindset is everything in life, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you aren't insecure about how pale you are, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually wish Easton was here today because Alison is

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<v Speaker 2>really protective of her skin. She's really light skin and

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<v Speaker 2>won't go in the sun, and she has the most

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<v Speaker 2>she looks like a porcelain doll. Like Allison is the

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<v Speaker 2>most beautiful skin and she's so protective of it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's also changing your mindset of how you

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<v Speaker 2>view lighter skin and pale skin, because like when I

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<v Speaker 2>see people with light skin, I'm like, wow, they really

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<v Speaker 2>take care of themselves. Like I'm never like oh my god,

0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like wow, they really care about their skin

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<v Speaker 2>health and you know what they're doing for it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's reshifting your brain chemistry. And I also

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<v Speaker 2>think doing therapy is great. And I also think go

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<v Speaker 2>outside with a short sleeve shirt or or shorts on,

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<v Speaker 2>and like Tanya said, go to the store, go run

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<v Speaker 2>an errand and if someone says anything, be like totally.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I see it every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. So I think you are on a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>journey and I'm proud of you because being confident in

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<v Speaker 2>something takes vulnerability.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a journey and you're gonna feel empowered

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<v Speaker 2>through it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so true though, It's like everybody has something,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, everybody has something. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even do a spraytann for my wedding. I was very

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<v Speaker 1>pale at my wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't remember you being pale at your wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look back some of the photos. My skin and

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<v Speaker 1>my dress very similar.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you just had a long dressold. What I

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<v Speaker 2>thought you just had a long dressold thinking about your reception.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had my wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't even str legs in your wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>My arms, my arms, my arms, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're quite like blow stuff on you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's fine. I'm not worried about it.

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<v Speaker 2>A bad example, not worried about it. Okay, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take a break. But we have an ex husband, ex

0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:39.119
<v Speaker 2>husband's now X message someone I don't even understand. That

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<v Speaker 2>feels like drama. Stay tuned, we're back, We're back, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of days ago, I got a random DM

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram from a woman who told me she's been

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<v Speaker 2>dating my ex husband for the past two years. She

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<v Speaker 2>said she had a lot of questions and asked if

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<v Speaker 2>i'd meet her for coffee. I wasn't comfortable meeting, but

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<v Speaker 2>I did agree to message with her. As we talked,

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<v Speaker 2>I realized he told her a completely different version of

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<v Speaker 2>why our marriage ended. He told her we divorced because

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<v Speaker 2>our work schedules weren't compatible. The truth is he cheated

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<v Speaker 2>on me. She also shared that he cheated on her

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<v Speaker 2>and that she experienced emotional manipulation throughout their relationship. It

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<v Speaker 2>was honestly surreal comparing notes and realizing we had lived

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<v Speaker 2>through so many of the same things. I told her.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was healthiest for us to stop talking

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<v Speaker 2>and wish her the best, but she's still asking if

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<v Speaker 2>we can meet in person. Part of me feels for

0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:48.080
<v Speaker 2>her because I know exactly what she's going through. The

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<v Speaker 2>other part of me feels like I've already said everything

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<v Speaker 2>I needed to say and don't want to reopen a

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<v Speaker 2>chapter of my life I've worked really hard to close.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I owe her a coffee or is it okay

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<v Speaker 2>to kindly say no and protect my own peace?

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<v Speaker 1>Very strong opinion on this, Yeah, listen, you're universal board.

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<v Speaker 2>She seems seems like she's not in the relationship anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems like they also broke up, so she's processing what

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<v Speaker 2>you've already been through and you don't need to be

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<v Speaker 2>her guiding light. Is my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero. This person is not your friend, that this person

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<v Speaker 1>is not your family. This person is if you want to,

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to talk to her to get to

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<v Speaker 1>feel better about the situation or to get clarity or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>then by all means, but you protecting your piece is

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a way of saying it to where

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't feel like alone and dismissed. But you can

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<v Speaker 2>just say, hey, like, I don't really have anything else

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<v Speaker 2>to say. I don't see a need for us to

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<v Speaker 2>meet in person, and I don't really want to just

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<v Speaker 2>like what you said, I don't really want to open

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<v Speaker 2>a chapter that I've worked really hard to close. But

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<v Speaker 2>I wish you the best and I hope you're able

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<v Speaker 2>to find closure like I have. Yeah, and just you know,

0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.200
<v Speaker 2>let her know that simple support her from afar. But

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<v Speaker 2>you don't need to meet up with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's easy for me. Bye bye, And.

0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that you have moved on because tutors.

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Are just the worst. Yeah, they're just they're just lack

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<v Speaker 1>of character. Really and that's not what we want for

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:24.440
<v Speaker 1>our Scrubby and Queen. No, okay, this is from Alyssa

0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 1>issues with step mother in law. My in laws live

0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:29.119
<v Speaker 1>about an hour and a half away from my husband,

0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:32.320
<v Speaker 1>our two year old son, and me. My husband has

0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 1>never been very close with his stepmom, even though she's

0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:37.760
<v Speaker 1>been in his life for almost thirty years. She has

0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:41.159
<v Speaker 1>three kids who live nearby, and they've all been and

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.080
<v Speaker 1>they've always been the priority. I hope things would change

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:46.320
<v Speaker 1>once we had our son, but they really haven't. They've

0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:49.120
<v Speaker 1>only driven to see him once for his first birthday party,

0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 1>while they see her kids all the time. A few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, I finally told my step mother in law

0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:57.639
<v Speaker 1>that I really wanted them to be more involved in

0:22:57.680 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 1>our son's life. I also pointed out that he is

0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:03.200
<v Speaker 1>my father in law's only biological grandson, and that really

0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 1>upset her. Looking back, I realized that was probably triggering

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<v Speaker 1>and I regret saying it in that way. We talked

0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it through and she insists that we're fine, but it

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel that way. We haven't really spoken since she

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.879
<v Speaker 1>stopped liking my posts about my son on Facebook and

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't even wish my husband a happy birthday. My son's

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 1>second birthday party is coming up, and I'm nervous since

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:22.960
<v Speaker 1>she says we're good. Do I just let it go

0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>or do I bring it up again?

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Man? Yeah? Also sorry, But like she seems very pettious

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.879
<v Speaker 1>if she's going to stop liking your photos on Facebook, and.

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Like I always say, like, don't put that much weight

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 2>into social media stuff, because like, at the end of

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 2>the day, it is social media. But if she if

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 2>you had a conversation, then there was a clear stop

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:49.160
<v Speaker 2>in engagement with you, It's like, that's just petty behavior. Yeah,

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I also don't think it's I don't think what you

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:56.840
<v Speaker 2>said was wrong. Like I think pointing out that you

0:23:57.040 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 2>have a biological grandson that it's important for y'all to

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 2>have an equal time with him just as much, you

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:03.920
<v Speaker 2>know what.

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<v Speaker 1>It's making me realize, though, I feel like so much

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of our angst in life, and so much of our

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>anxiety comes from expectation from others. And I think that

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 1>when you really lower that bar, like when you just

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 1>don't like, of course, obviously you want your in laws

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>to have a relationship with your son, that's very obvious,

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:29.639
<v Speaker 1>but for some reason they're not putting in the effort.

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Who knows why, we don't know why, but you just

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 1>can't force people to care or be involved. And I

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:42.879
<v Speaker 1>feel like if you just let that go, it's going

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to bring you more peace. I feel like if you

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:47.119
<v Speaker 1>keep forcing the issue, it's just going to create more tension.

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 1>She's clearly already stopped liking your photos, so she's pissed off.

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:53.159
<v Speaker 1>And I just feel like the more you try and

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>force it, the worse it's going to get. So I

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 1>think the best that you can do is you yourself

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 1>can try to see them more. Maybe you know, you

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 1>arrange things and if they don't bite, like I don't

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 1>even bite, but like, if they're not wanting to take

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you up on those offers, then I think you have

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>to like leave a bee.

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I also think I was rereading this and you said

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 2>that your husband has never been close with this stepmom,

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 2>and so I think expecting someone's behavior to change just

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 2>because you have a kid, like the effort doesn't. Unfortunately,

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't always change just due to having a baby,

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Like sometimes a baby doesn't change the effort that someone's

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 2>willing to be put to put in. And I agree,

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:33.639
<v Speaker 2>I think at some point, maybe you just need to

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 2>accept that her she is low effort in y'all's life,

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 2>and you see her when you see her, and don't

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 2>put pressure or expectations on it just because you had

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 2>a baby to expect her to change. It sounds like

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 2>this is who she is and who she's been, and

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 2>see her when you see her, and focus on the

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 2>people who do show up totally, and you don't have

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 2>to beg to show up. And it doesn't have to

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:57.920
<v Speaker 2>be family totally totally.

0:25:58.040 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Becca amen to that.

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's chosen family.

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's chosen family.

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 2>So it just do you be like, sorry, you're navigating that.

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.359
<v Speaker 2>So it's so hard when you want people to show up.

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's just don't it's so disappointing. But I

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 1>think you just have to accept people as they are.

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>That's like one of the things Robbie taught me this

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago, and it like, I know, it's

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>very simple, but like the way he said it to

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>me was like so groundbreaking. Like I was like, oh

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, Yes, just accept people for who they are

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 1>and that's it. Don't expect more.

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, either have them in your life or don't. Yeah,

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 3>but some people are just in your life and that.

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 3>But that just accept them for who they are and

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 3>how they are. Yeah, it's good stuff, man, not going

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:46.400
<v Speaker 3>to get that anywhere else.

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>It's good stuff. Okay, so we have one more. Do

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 2>you want me to read the friend hasn't met my baby?

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Or overstepping mother in law?

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we just did a mother in law one. So

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe dew friend hasn't met my baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Day one, Scrubber, first time writing in. I'm really

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 2>confused about a situation with one of my closest friends.

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 2>We've been friends for over fifteen years, where bridesmaids in

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 2>each other's weddings, and have always talked about our never

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 2>ending bucket list of things to do together. I had

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 2>my first baby last fall, and somehow she still hasn't

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 2>met my daughter. We only live about forty minutes apart.

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Throughout my maternity leave, she kept texting me as saying

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 2>she couldn't wait to meet the baby and couldn't believe

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 2>how much she'd grown. I told her my schedule was

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 2>completely flexible and gave her every opportunity to come over,

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 2>but she never made plans. The other day, I sent

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 2>her some new pictures of my daughter, and she never responded,

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 2>She's always on social media, so I know she saw them.

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.880
<v Speaker 2>At this point, I just feel hurt. She's missed such

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 2>a big part of my life, and it feels like

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 2>she's made no effort. What would you do? Wait, what

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:51.360
<v Speaker 2>are you gonna say?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so glad she's saying this because I am

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>this friend. Like, I don't want to meet people's babies,

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>because I know how protect people are over their babies

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>and like when they're not vaccinated yet or like whatever

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>germs like. I just know how protective people are. So

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm never the person to initiate meeting somebody's baby because

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>I never want to put the other person in that

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.640
<v Speaker 1>position to be uncomfortable. Do you get a saying? She did?

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 2>She did give her permission, though, no, she didn't, she said.

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 4>She said.

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>I told her my schedule was completely flexible and gave

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 2>her every opportunity to come over.

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, but that's not she said. I told her

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that my schedule is completely flexible. Uh, come over whenever

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>you want. You have to, like point blank be like,

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I want you to meet my baby. Can you come

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>over Friday? It's so true.

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I texted Alley every day when can I went to

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>the hospital to meet the baby, and then I text

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 2>her after that to be like, Hey, do you want

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>me to come over? What can I help with? Even

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 2>if I'm not holding the baby, I can help with

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>laundry or spend time with my friend. You that needs

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 2>to change if that's how you handle that situation.

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I'm scared because I know how to.

0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Hold the baby. Though you could just go spend time

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 2>with your friend and see the baby and help with

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 2>things around the house show up for them. Well, I'm

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 2>stressed because I haven't gotten to meet JoJo's baby, and

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 2>she lives in Puerto Rico, so it's it's a little

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 2>harder than the forty minute drive. And we've had made

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 2>plans and then things shifted and it didn't work out.

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 2>So I'm but forty minutes away. There's no excuse, TONI.

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have to talk about this after the podcast

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:28.719
<v Speaker 2>because what we got to change that mindset for me personally,

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 2>because I don't know that that's happening.

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, like, here's the thing. I don't think it's not.

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>It hasn't been any of like my best friends. I

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, I think it's it must be different.

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Like if you had a baby, I would not feel

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>concerned about like having my germs on your baby. Well,

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, actually, I'm thinking of people that in my life,

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>that life, you know, like my co work, like when

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Sysney had her kids, or like people in my life

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>that like are in my life, but they're not my

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>best friends. Do you know what I mean.

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that it's weird like show up for

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>people without needing to expose them to your germs.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>A friend of mine again not, she's not like a

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>best friend by any means. She had a baby and

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I've like reach out a couple of times to like

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>catch up, and.

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 2>She didn't catch up. Right now she's.

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Offered like FaceTime like whatever, like just go help her, be.

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Like hey, can I bring food? Can I send you anything?

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Can I come help with laundry? Hold the baby while

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 2>you shower.

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she wants me to hold the baby.

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well then watch the baby, say Michelle.

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Coming from somebody, it's not. I don't think it's necessarily

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>coming from a bad place. I think it might be

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>be coming from somebody who just doesn't want to like

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>overstep or I.

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Don't think she's stepping. I don't even think she's stepping

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 2>to overstep, you know what, Michelle. I would reach out

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>and I would say, hey, I don't know if something's

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 2>happened and I missed out because my life has been

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 2>a whirlwin since having this baby, but I would love

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>for you to come over. I'd love to see you,

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 2>and I'd love for you to meet the baby. Is

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 2>there any time this week that you could come over?

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 2>If I haven't made it clear, i'd love to see you.

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying I think that's a way because my

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 2>feelings would be hurt. And I also think that maybe

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>you need to communicate a little. It seems like there

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 2>are people you need to be a little more direct with.

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>So yes, maybe just say like, I would love for

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>you to come over. We can have dinner and chat

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>and you can meet the baby. I'd love to catch up.

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>M And if she leaves you like hanging on that,

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>then I think you just need to reassess your friendship.

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, that's that's respectfully, Yeah, respectfully. Okay, So we're

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 2>going to take a break and when we come back,

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 2>we are going to be playing a gay am I?

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Who am I? And we're going to do the should

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 2>we should we tell people that we're like, should we

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 2>let people know who they are?

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>People like to know? And then somebody like to play

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a long so it's like, what do we do?

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Let's just not tell We're just gonna let people play along. Okay,

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>And so if you want to join us, we'll be back.

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 2>And if you're saying goodbye, we love we love you

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 2>so much and we'll be back next week. Okay, taking

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 2>a break, be very back.

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>We're back.

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 2>We're back in action.

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to go first? We're gonna ping ping pong.

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 2>All right, we decided that you can go first.

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're gonna recap every couple of questions. Am I

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>a man?

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 2>No Am I a woman?

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Am I a woman? Yes?

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Am I an actress?

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes Am I a singer?

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 2>No Am I a TV actress?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes am I an actress?

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<v Speaker 2>No Like, I feel like you've been in movies, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're not. I wouldn't say you're like, that's not what

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<v Speaker 2>you're known for.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I older than thirty?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes am I an influencer? Huh?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah in a way?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, am I white? No Am I a model?

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<v Speaker 2>No am I black.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, I'm gonna read. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna RecA.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a woman. I'm not a singer. I'm not an actress.

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<v Speaker 1>I in a way, i am an influencer. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a model. I am a.

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<v Speaker 2>Woman who is an actress. I'm a black woman who

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<v Speaker 2>is a TV actress. I'm older than thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we have. Okay. So if I'm not a singer,

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not an actress. I'm not a model. How do

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<v Speaker 1>people know me? How do people know me? Am I broadcaster?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Am I on a current TV show? No?

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<v Speaker 1>You are not okay? Okay, I'm not an actress. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I an EPO baby?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Have I been on a Shonda Rhyme show?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Am I a reality TV star?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 2>No? You're so so hard a.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn nice?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is just set up. Am I in a

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<v Speaker 2>show called scandal? No?

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 1>You're not okay? So I'm a woman, I'm not a singer,

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not an actress. I am in an away influencer.

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a model. I am not a broadcaster. I'm

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 1>not an EPO baby, and I'm not a reality TV star?

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Who am I am? I podcaster.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think, guys, this is a joke, like you're

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<v Speaker 3>very famous. Yeah, I'm a podcaster, right, Am I on

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<v Speaker 3>Gray's Anatomy?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh am I?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I white? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>No, way am I in? Oh my god? What is

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.439
<v Speaker 2>that show called something about murder? Is it a show

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<v Speaker 2>about murders?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Yes? Am I a comedian?

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 2>No? I think you're a comedian?

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Am I?

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<v Speaker 2>Viola Davis?

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<v Speaker 1>That's insane? I hate this game. We're done with this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yours is so hard. I don't even know who.

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what I do. I just know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a white lady.

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Think of the ultimate white lady. Think of someone when

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.839
<v Speaker 2>someone has a white lady, who could come to mind?

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Betty White, No, not her last name, not a Lott

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 2>name association.

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<v Speaker 1>Megan Markle getting in that direction.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not white, by the way. Oh yeah, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a similar direction.

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<v Speaker 1>What's her name? Uh, Princess whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Princess of No. No, go back in the other direction

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 2>of Mega Markle like her new Netflix show.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a new Netflix show.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I think you Martha stew.

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<v Speaker 1>That's insane. Wow, that's insane.

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:51.320
<v Speaker 2>N Martha Stewart was insane. Sam Sam said.

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<v Speaker 4>Game, let me screw her over even more because I

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.839
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't even even know what questions to ask for her either,

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 4>after you said after we said no to everybody, I

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<v Speaker 4>really don't know because celebrity chef and like homemaker when

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<v Speaker 4>it be no.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never think that. Wow, wow, Sam has now

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>lost her privileges picking.

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that was That was a tough one. Okay, all right,

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 2>another one bites the dust.

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Will I ever win this game? Is really the question

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>it should turn into will Tanya ever win this game?

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<v Speaker 2>So? Know, we thought Viola Davis would be harder. Yeah,

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought yours was gonna be hard well, I when

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 2>you I was narrowed down to Shonda Rhymes, I thought

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:36.760
<v Speaker 2>it was Kerry Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, once you said scam and then I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was Bailey Ah. Yes, yeah, Well isn't that nice your

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>third guess?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, I had. I had a bunch. All right, everybody,

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 2>thanks for playing along. We might take a break from

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:54.399
<v Speaker 2>that just so Tanya can well.

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I might not be here next week.

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so yeah, Tanya, she may or may not

0:37:58.960 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>be here next week. Stay.

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing about me in this this phase of life,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't really plan things because the last trip we

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 1>planned got really we were just out a lot of money,

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 1>and so we were like, we're not planning things, and

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 1>so whenever my period comes, we can plan a quick

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:19.919
<v Speaker 1>little jaunt. So we might plan a quick little johnt

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:20.359
<v Speaker 1>next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so Tanya might be out on a jaunt. And

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I think as of now, what's confirmed is that Ali's

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna come on and she's gonna talk about having a baby,

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.399
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna catch up and she's gonna either fill

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:34.840
<v Speaker 2>in for Tanya or be here with me and Tanya.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll be back next week, Tanya pending and we

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<v Speaker 2>love you all so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Wonderful b