WEBVTT - JUSTIN FORSETT 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.640 This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.920 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.480 Steve Smith Senior and I'm ger a little John and 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:16.000 this is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:19.479 Let's get down to do it. Good do it. We 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.920 asked the questions you always want to know, but no 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:28.800 one ever asked, let's cut to it. If you ain't 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:31.880 heard about it, then we're about to let you now 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:42.640 it's all you may want to walk on. One of 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:47.320 my good friends didn't play with him on the football 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:54.000 team for very long, but we instantly uh bonded. Nine 0:00:54.080 --> 0:01:03.400 year vet, one time pro bowler, right, but but a 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:09.920 lifetime friend. Justin Forcett. Welcome to the Cut to a Podcast. Yeah, 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.280 I appreciate. I'm honored, man. This means a lot to 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:13.960 be to be on the show. So thank you for 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.800 having me on. Man, that's my dog, so appreciate. We 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.320 appreciate you. Pull it up. You know. Obviously we got 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:23.400 the co host Gerard Little Johan, you're a good friend. 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.360 And then we got a backstage Joe. Um, I'm still 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:28.920 trying to figure out, what the hell do you do? 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:37.400 Joe better questions No, no, no, no, everything. Remember, well, 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.440 it's good to have you on there. You know, we 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.360 we we're just gonna jump right into it. There's um 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:43.920 a lot of a lot of my a lot of 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:47.039 my guys that I played with on the football teams. 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.280 They're always like, well, you're gonna have me on the podcast. 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.680 I don't have the guys asked in my phone on 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:57.160 the podcast because I it comes across the wrong way. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:58.480 But I mean it when I say this is the 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:02.080 low hanging fruit is it's the easy route. Right when 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:06.400 you're do trying to do something that's that with with sustainability, 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:13.000 long term future, you normally want to go to your 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.840 easy ask the guys that you could depend on. But 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.880 that doesn't really push me. It doesn't like it doesn't 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:24.560 make me uncomfortable, second and third and fourth moving forward, 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.120 I want to get the guys there on my phone. 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.560 But the guys who aren't in my phone, I gotta 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:32.000 stretch myself. I gotta reach out to them. I gotta 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.120 I gotta accept no, we've we we received a lot 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:39.600 of nose from people are like, what why is he Steve? 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.079 He was talking about me on the NFL network or 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.160 or when I was when I played he you know 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.040 he did this, so he did that and so not you. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.880 That's the wrong guy. Thank you, thank you. That's what 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:56.640 I'm talking about. But you know it's so it's um. 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:00.519 But I always always wanted this guy on here right 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.359 when we have a lot of conversations. I always wanted 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:04.080 to guy on it. But I just needed to, you know, 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.560 to show we got to show people it's not just 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.600 a one hit wonder and we don't want to just 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.120 be here one year and just you know, kind of 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.160 have all the easy easy ask because we have a 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:17.120 real good friendship. So that's an easy ask, you know. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:21.639 I mean, Hey, I'm still waiting for my my Hustle 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:25.840 Clean UH check. We're not gett my investment check, getting 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:27.360 the mail. You ain't got it yet. I feel like 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.839 maybe it's fed ags, you know, ups and we don't 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:32.880 we don't mean. We don't mean that y'all cause you 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:37.200 want to sponsor here as an investor. Hustle Clean is 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:42.400 not sponsoring this uh podcast, which should be we should 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.960 be y'all gonna pay. Hey, what what you need? Man? 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:54.720 I don't want to build you can I can I 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.120 find this a trap? Like if Hustle clean is sponsor 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.760 in my podcast, I think as an investor and then 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.440 show a podcast. I don't know, I'll get an invoice 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.760 at some point. No, no, you're not. It's all good 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.400 over here. I'm just teasing. We'll talk the financials, like, yeah, 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.040 we're talking. You know, we need talking to financials. Every 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.480 time I go to the store, I'm seeing hustle clean. Yeah, 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.920 I'm on. Now that's some new stuff popping too, you 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.520 got yeah, we gotta talk about all right, so listen, 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:20.760 let's get into it. We got the first, we got 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.640 some icebreakers. All right. If you were a pair of shoes, 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:30.360 what brand new shoes would you be? Oh, she's Air 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.680 Force Ones Classic, you know, verst until you can wear 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.200 with anything. The white ones are the black ones, though, 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:42.560 that's the key question you put on the scheme. Man. 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.240 You run a block on somebody with the black ones, 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.240 you can roll. You ain't go. No black ones too, though, 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.000 you pull up with the black air Force ones, I 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.320 know you didn't rob somebody before. No, no, no, just 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:57.599 the white ones. Yeah, the white ones. All right, what's 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:04.400 your favorite? Uh? Just favorite snack? O favorite snack? Oh? 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.040 I know the next question because we've had this debate. 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:13.320 Go continue favorite snack. That's a that's a tough one. Um. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.200 I was. I like smoothies, So if I canna make 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.720 a nice smoothie, that's a cool snack for me. So 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:22.000 we've had this debate in the locker room in the cafeteria. Cereal, 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:27.960 what's your favorite? What's your favorite cereal? Ugly face? Hey, uh, 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:33.040 speak to me with some respect while I'm on the show. Uh, 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:38.200 honey nut cheerios. That's a classic too. He just goes 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.440 to the classics. I'm a class I'm a classic man. 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:48.000 So I will say like, I'll be like, oh uh captain, yeah, 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:53.080 Captain crustfoot, that's not still he would go yeah, he 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.200 would go candy. He's like, I'm like, and what is 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.599 honey nut CEOs? He's like, man, it helps kill your 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:04.000 helps keep your co strong. Justin how you feel about 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:09.160 a shredded wheat? Oh terrible, terrible, shat is terrible? Uh, 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.799 Steve Smith another favorite his raising brand Cereal, which is terrible. 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.279 That tells me that your palette is terrible. If it 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.040 tastes like the cardboard that it's in, that's exactly eat 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.520 it quick. You gotta take a shot of cereal like 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.680 it's like first of all, if first of all, if 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:30.440 you pour like me and you ain't letting that thing 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:37.360 sit alone, that's why she Yeah, no, he we had 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.279 this debate. I would ask him, you see me in 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:45.120 the stadium in the counter here, I will eat I 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:50.400 will eat some razors. N I'm talking about market like. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.160 But I ain't letting it sit a long now, because 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.440 that's that. But when I was growing up, though, I 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:02.359 didn't have some shredded wheat that tastes like corrible. He 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:08.400 has a bad palaque here in case General Mills wants 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:13.120 a we apologize. So that's you get that shredderway for free. 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.560 And you so and how you and that's all you have. 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.440 So you have to switch it up. You go hot milk, 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.160 cold milk, a little little butter and some sugar that 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.920 shrewd to eat delicious. You gotta add butter and sugar 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.920 to the serial. I don't want it. That's why I 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:33.160 don't like grits. Oh yeah, all right, Well that's that. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.160 That was it, what we got. That's it. Now we're 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.080 about to get into it. You want to know about you? Okay, 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.239 I thought just this icebreaker. You want some more rapid fires. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.640 What you want all right, I got one. Uh what what? Uh? 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:49.880 Tell me a dog that doesn't bite? A dog that 0:07:49.960 --> 0:08:00.000 doesn't bite me? You said you're talking about like you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:05.080 I'm a dog. I'm a dog. Right, it's a hot dog. 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:15.960 Stupid Okay, like that. I'm gonna use that. I bet 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.720 you are. Alright, Hey, how many how many months? Have 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:24.120 twenty eight days? All of them have twenty eight days? 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.360 You and cues? No, you're on his cues. I don't 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.920 know abody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you know I had 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.040 my my degree in the background' u ce Berkeleys got 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.640 packed twelve. Let's go, y'all still in the pack twelve? 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:42.439 Come on, man, were down, we're rebuilding. He meant you 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:50.880 mentioned it, not me? Ten your rebuilding? Hal they only 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:56.800 came to fame and Rogers. Come on now, de Sean Jackson, 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.280 Marshawn Lynch. I'm just telling you what I've been there. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:04.880 That's all they claimed. Wasn't Marshaw in your roommate. That's 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:11.480 that's funny. You're talking about hilarious. That's gotta bell me 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.960 and him in the same I'm gonna say, I'm like 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.800 were you you and I like you? With Steve Smith, 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:24.880 that's like, what is that like? You know, uh, you know, 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.959 our first encounter with one another was interesting because we're 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:31.200 talked about we're at the conference where the uh PO 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:35.600 conference is like, uh, you know, couples Conference Christians couple 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.200 couple of conference that we do every year and ministry 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.599 and workshop and all those things, and doing the workshops 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.560 throughout the day. We have time to play basketball, just 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:47.800 like some free time, downtime to hang out. And uh, 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:52.480 me and Steve regarding each other. I didn't. I wasn't 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.360 regarding me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well he couldn't. That was 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.440 the issue, Like he couldn't. He can he can hold 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:01.360 me out? That's right, I couldn't, So so I guess 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.160 I may have kind of. I may have kind of 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.920 I was a little aggressive. Uh. That was the first 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:09.319 time he's told the truth of the story. How many 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:13.160 years we've been friends. It's the first time the Lord 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.559 is working on them. God bless you. Go ahead. I 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.320 may have been a little bit of aggressive and uh 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.400 one of the times he just like he had to 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.440 stop playing, just like let them me and say, hey man, 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.880 you gotta ease up a little bit. And Uh, I 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.640 was like, okay, I'm gonna he's up in respect because 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:30.920 Steve Smithsterley, so I backed up a little bit, but 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.840 I ever since then I felt like, Okay, Steve Smith, 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:35.880 I mean he's a turd. And then he got it 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:40.120 against Steve Smith. He's a turd. I think that's the 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:49.800 name of this episode. Stop aggress because he's that kind 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:55.360 of party Steve smithter turd. Continue that's gonna be. That's 0:10:55.400 --> 0:11:03.920 what I rtanalized. So yeah, just use this face, yea. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.160 The so long story short, we ended up playing on 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.760 the same team in Baltimore in two thousand and thirteen 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:16.600 fourteen I believe, no. Fourteen and fifteen um and a 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.559 little bit of sixth team. We got a chance to 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.839 when our lockers were right next to each other. So, 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.920 I mean, right off the bat, I could tell that 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:29.280 this one, this guy's, you know, as advertised, crazy competitor, 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:33.240 like just every day bringing energy. His work ethic was crazy, 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.040 and at this time he had to be at least 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:40.320 you know, at the time we were playing for one another, 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:46.480 and since since you're a spring chicken, yeah he he 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.080 would know serious. Like it was like to see his 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.520 work ethic in his grind every day. It was impressive. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.600 But it was more impressive was just seeing the man 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.440 behind the helmet, like you see like Steve Smith. You 0:11:57.440 --> 0:11:59.800 know you see these cut ups, you know, highlights on 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:04.000 NFL network, and um, to see the heart of the 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.000 man like that was what drew me in. Was like, man, 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.240 this guy like really cares for his family. This guy 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:14.200 has a unique story and back line and and uh 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.880 he cares for his teammates in a real way. And 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:18.439 he will you know, he'll give you the shirt off 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:20.679 his back. So I mean, I think at the end 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.440 of the day, just like my relationship with Marshawn and 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:27.000 anybody else, like it's all about authenticity and real and 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.960 that that's usually the connecting point. I think that because 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:34.600 I was a hundred myself and he was himself. Uh, 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.200 were connected and he had a bond in the friendship brotherhood. 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.360 So man, I got nothing but positive things to say 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:45.120 about Steve Smith, sr. Man. He's good. We man, we 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:50.000 had some we had some interesting conversations on and off 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.280 the field, but hell, we had a lot of interesting 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:57.200 conversations in the huddle too. On the field, like he'll 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:01.000 be trying to talk like like first, shut up dog, 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.280 he's holding him back and trying to get him kicked 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.720 out of a game, like fortunately, Like come on, stay 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.199 like bro, if you don't get off of me, Like, bro, 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.400 get out of the way. Do you want He's trying 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:18.319 to get Samaritan here trying to get but let somebody 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.600 do something though to him, all right, Steve, go get 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:28.200 That wasn't the case, wen't. We didn't have we didn't 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.520 have much of that going on, but it was it 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.640 was It was fun. I mean, you've had a lot 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.800 of encounters with a lot of players and justin how 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.040 how easy or difficult is it to have those authentic 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:44.480 relationships uh in the league? Man, Um, It's it's how 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.920 you make it right. I feel like because I was 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.800 on seven teams, Um, I got a chance to meet 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.720 a lot of different people, and I invested my time 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.480 and you know energy, and like I wanted to make 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.160 sure that I just didn't stop a place and it 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.040 was transactional, but it is actually you know, transformative where 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.520 I can have you know, these lifeline bonds that I have, 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.400 So whether it's somebody that needed help on their charity 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.000 or camp football camp, I was gonna be there to 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.160 serve Like my mission inside the locker room in our 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.800 football field was to try to you know, have impact 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.680 and you know, hopefully somebody can see the light inside 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.120 of me and uh inspire them to be better and 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.040 do better. And so I spent time with those relationships. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:27.640 So it wasn't that hard for me, honestly to have 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:34.720 those I love cut to It and I love it 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:39.280 even more when you download us and subscribe and you 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.960 can follow us on social media too, Smithie, where where at? 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:46.840 That's at? Cut to It on Instagram? What about Twitter? At? 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.960 Cut to It? Facebook? Cut to It featuring Steve Smith singr? 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.480 What about online? And you can follow us at cut 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.720 to It podcast dot com where you can buy merch 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.960 and you can subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts. 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.120 I got all my answers, questions. Uh yeah, I got 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.520 all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:16.160 cut to a podcast dot com being on seven teams. Though, psychologically, 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:20.880 what what what did that do to you? And I said, 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:26.840 I asked with such a broad spectrum because I I 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.360 don't know, you know, I mean, I kind of can assume, 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.400 but I want to make a idiot out of myself. 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:38.120 But I'm just wondering, you know, I did not. I'm 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.200 not not saying it the wrong way. I didn't have 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:44.840 that right. So I can't imagine that I remember at 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:48.200 that little small moment you know, gee, you know is 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.720 that when you get released, there's a you know, or 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.280 you get fired, whatever the case may be, the transition 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.880 of jobs, it's you know it it does something to you. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.680 But you got that seven times? Yeah what that do 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:06.040 to you? Man? And put a chip on my shoulder. 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.640 You know, I'm already I was already undersized coming into 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.440 the league, right, wasn't supposed to make it long as 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.520 you know, a five eight hundred running back. Hold on, 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.440 hold on, so you finally said your real height five 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:21.520 eight okay, fluctuates. Um. So what it did was it 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:23.800 was kind of one It told me that, you know, 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:25.840 the league is not loyal, Like there's no team that lloyal. 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.000 That's that's loyal, right, um the Loyd to a degree. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.200 And for me, it was kind of like, I don't know, 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:32.640 if you've ever been step in the friend zone. Maybe 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.720 you guys never had that that problem, right, It was 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:41.040 like these teams were like completely yeah, ever ever ever 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:42.600 stuck in the friend zone. It was like that, man, 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.880 it was like like they liked my service, they like 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.000 what I provided to the team, but it wasn't enough 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.680 for an investment, a long term committed you know, with 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.920 partnership or relationship with me, And that built up a 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.960 callous right and it feels like at times like, man, 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:58.880 when am I going to find that like one true 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.120 spot or eam that say? Man, I'm gonna bet on 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:02.960 Justin I want I love what he brings to the 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:04.800 table when he's worth it. So I was just like 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:09.359 really fighting every year to have like, you know, that 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.359 place where I could call home and have stability for 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.680 my family. And uh, you know, until I found that place, 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:16.560 you know, you know at the telling of my career 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:18.000 in Baltimore, where I got a chance to have that 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.280 commitment and you know, have a place where I at 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.760 least feel side for a few years. Um, it felt good, 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:25.800 But up until that point it was it was a 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.159 dog fight. So take us backwards. You know, where are 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:33.600 you from in the place you call your hometown hometown Moreburry, Florida, 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:38.479 three thousand people right in the center uh central central Florida, 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:42.440 right between Tampa and Orlando. Uh, false fate minding is big. 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:43.879 They're not a lot of people make it out to 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.960 accomplish their dreams, goals and aspirations in life, but hard 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:55.240 working people humble beginnings. UM. Family financially unstable for most 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.639 of my life, bounce around from place to place, never 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.560 owned a home. Remember time when I had to take 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:04.240 baths with bottle waters zephy Hills water bottles down in Florida. 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.119 I remember doing my homework by candle light because our 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.119 power bills light bill, we couldn't pay us, so we 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.359 shut off. I remember running from repo man and you know, 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.200 my parents put me on the call on the phone 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.600 to answer repo man and tell them that we're not 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.320 here or we're parking a car down the street in 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.960 order to and walk home. Um. And then at our 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.479 very lowest being homeless living out of a motel at 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.440 the age of twelve thirteen, where you know, all five 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.920 of us his family of three boys, I was the 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.760 middle child and living in this moach other edge of town. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.880 And uh, you know, just at that moment in my life, 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:40.960 was trying to make a decision declaring that I was 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:42.760 gonna have more for myself and for my family and 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:47.320 my future family. So yeah, that was that, that was 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:50.959 me going up but faith driven home. That was a pastor. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.000 So um, you know I got a kind of that 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.520 that that foundation laid earlier. Just like knowing that, you know, 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:00.960 I had to have extreme faith, um, not only myself 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.600 but God, but also Um, I got to put the 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.760 work in and it's gonna take a lot of discipline 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.560 and commitment. And I saw that from my parents, whether 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.399 he was my dad was having a restaurant, he was 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:14.160 preaching and driving trucks my mom Like, I just saw 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.400 him do a lot of different jobs and to make 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.359 way for us. So um, just that guys working. It 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:21.359 wasn't still in me early, so it really pushed me 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.399 to be more for me for myself. What do you 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:28.360 think you're your family heirlooms are what did your what's 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.560 your folks hand down to you that you're now handing 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.560 down to your children. I would say just that I 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:38.000 was nothing like physical right, but it was just like 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.400 that my faith like it was one at an early 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:44.159 age I was instilled still in me. Um that I 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:48.120 passed down to my kids. Uh. That work ethic right, Um, 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:50.520 that I just talked about, like that is something that's 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:54.640 been ingrained to me. Like nothing comes nothing nothing, Uh 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:56.720 there's no substitute for hard work. Right. If you're not 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:58.399 putting in the work in you know, nothing good is 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.359 gonna come from it. So I tried to passed down 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:03.800 to my kids. And then also just being um not 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:07.359 afraid of being different, right, just walking into my like 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:14.000 authenticity and um not being okay with not fitting in 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:16.720 the things that you know. I try to pass on 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:18.960 that my parents and still at me that I tried 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.840 stealing instill them to my my kids. I mean speaking 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:24.399 of that, you you mentioned you a minister's child, and 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.440 there's always kind of the stereotypical label of of being 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:31.120 a p K, being a preacher's child. Do you feel 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.920 like you were that stereotypical? How did that affect your 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:36.000 not only your childhood but now looking back on how 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:40.600 to affect your career and ultimately life. No, I mean 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:43.440 for me, I think a lot of people. You know, 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:47.000 when you talk about the p k's going wild or no, 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.159 you're not a PK wild. You're a p K like 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:54.399 he is. He's a like knowing knowing, not knowing of 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:58.920 him and his history, observing them and seeing them, seeing 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:03.080 this authenticity, hearing him speak, and then when he says 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.159 you know. Then when I found out he's a preacher's kid, 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.960 then I go, oh, it connected the dots. But now 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:12.879 as a parent, I think I'd rather have a p 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:18.440 K kid to connect those dots than having someone else 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.480 that isn't you know what I mean, like because what 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:23.600 I said, what I mean by that is being a 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:27.520 father of four kids, two of them at the house, 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.239 one on his way out bam, and six one by 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:36.280 the way, just letting you know, um and seeing that 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.320 I was talking to a buddy at the event and 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:44.040 he said that his he said, Man, all these guys 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:49.400 kids that we know that are well off, he said, Man, 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:54.000 every single one of their kids, it's not living life 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:57.560 the way he was he raised them. And so just 0:21:57.720 --> 0:21:59.479 looking at that, like me and and you are very 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:01.640 thankful that, you know, we got some of the kids 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.680 that we have. But then looking at you know, just 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:09.200 knowing justin and what he experienced as his friend, I'm like, 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.320 you know, looking at the highsight, I really have a 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:15.080 peak kid, you know, a preacher's kid, and someone who 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:21.280 has no home training, who has no guidelines, because it's 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:24.879 almost you going backwards and just watching them and seeing 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:28.240 them and his his foundation is so strong it's like, 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:31.280 you know, he has the he does have the innate 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:36.880 ability to um identify and and and socialize with every 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:41.600 every every type. It created boundaries for me, honestly, you know, 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:46.119 throughout out my journey, like I knew that I was different, 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:48.800 you know, because a lot of people say, when you 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:51.560 especially going up in like fake community, a lot of 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:54.199 people say, when you go to college, people lose their religion, right, 0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:56.480 you know, And I don't believe that. I believe that. 0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.000 You know, kids go to college and they lose their 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.040 parents religion, so they never owned it for themselves. So 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:04.320 for me, I owned it for myself, like I had 0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:06.760 a relationship, like I felt like I was doing, like 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:08.720 I was trying to do as much as I could 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:11.040 to get close to God, to have my own personal relationship, 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:13.119 my own journey with them, and I had that early on. 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.760 So so knowing that and walking in that, I was 0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:19.240 okay and confident and bold in my faith and not 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:22.359 afraid to be different. And there's some places I couldn't go, 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:24.920 things I couldn't do, and I was and I was 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:27.239 okay with that. Right I might have been made fun 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:29.840 of or you know, I was known as the guy 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:31.720 in the locker room. I was like, especially going up 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:34.040 to college and even part early on in my career, 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:36.960 like I I waited to have sex until I got married, 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:39.480