Speaker 1: This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at
Speaker 1: production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior and I'm ger a little John and
Speaker 1: this is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it.
Speaker 1: Let's get down to do it. Good do it. We
Speaker 1: asked the questions you always want to know, but no
Speaker 1: one ever asked, let's cut to it. If you ain't
Speaker 1: heard about it, then we're about to let you now
Speaker 1: it's all you may want to walk on. One of
Speaker 1: my good friends didn't play with him on the football
Speaker 1: team for very long, but we instantly uh bonded. Nine
Speaker 1: year vet, one time pro bowler, right, but but a
Speaker 1: lifetime friend. Justin Forcett. Welcome to the Cut to a Podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate. I'm honored, man. This means a lot to
Speaker 1: be to be on the show. So thank you for
Speaker 1: having me on. Man, that's my dog, so appreciate. We
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Pull it up. You know. Obviously we got
Speaker 1: the co host Gerard Little Johan, you're a good friend.
Speaker 1: And then we got a backstage Joe. Um, I'm still
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, what the hell do you do?
Speaker 1: Joe better questions No, no, no, no, everything. Remember, well,
Speaker 1: it's good to have you on there. You know, we
Speaker 1: we we're just gonna jump right into it. There's um
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of my a lot of
Speaker 1: my guys that I played with on the football teams.
Speaker 1: They're always like, well, you're gonna have me on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I don't have the guys asked in my phone on
Speaker 1: the podcast because I it comes across the wrong way.
Speaker 1: But I mean it when I say this is the
Speaker 1: low hanging fruit is it's the easy route. Right when
Speaker 1: you're do trying to do something that's that with with sustainability,
Speaker 1: long term future, you normally want to go to your
Speaker 1: easy ask the guys that you could depend on. But
Speaker 1: that doesn't really push me. It doesn't like it doesn't
Speaker 1: make me uncomfortable, second and third and fourth moving forward,
Speaker 1: I want to get the guys there on my phone.
Speaker 1: But the guys who aren't in my phone, I gotta
Speaker 1: stretch myself. I gotta reach out to them. I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta accept no, we've we we received a lot
Speaker 1: of nose from people are like, what why is he Steve?
Speaker 1: He was talking about me on the NFL network or
Speaker 1: or when I was when I played he you know
Speaker 1: he did this, so he did that and so not you.
Speaker 1: That's the wrong guy. Thank you, thank you. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. But you know it's so it's um.
Speaker 1: But I always always wanted this guy on here right
Speaker 1: when we have a lot of conversations. I always wanted
Speaker 1: to guy on it. But I just needed to, you know,
Speaker 1: to show we got to show people it's not just
Speaker 1: a one hit wonder and we don't want to just
Speaker 1: be here one year and just you know, kind of
Speaker 1: have all the easy easy ask because we have a
Speaker 1: real good friendship. So that's an easy ask, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, Hey, I'm still waiting for my my Hustle
Speaker 1: Clean UH check. We're not gett my investment check, getting
Speaker 1: the mail. You ain't got it yet. I feel like
Speaker 1: maybe it's fed ags, you know, ups and we don't
Speaker 1: we don't mean. We don't mean that y'all cause you
Speaker 1: want to sponsor here as an investor. Hustle Clean is
Speaker 1: not sponsoring this uh podcast, which should be we should
Speaker 1: be y'all gonna pay. Hey, what what you need? Man?
Speaker 1: I don't want to build you can I can I
Speaker 1: find this a trap? Like if Hustle clean is sponsor
Speaker 1: in my podcast, I think as an investor and then
Speaker 1: show a podcast. I don't know, I'll get an invoice
Speaker 1: at some point. No, no, you're not. It's all good
Speaker 1: over here. I'm just teasing. We'll talk the financials, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking. You know, we need talking to financials. Every
Speaker 1: time I go to the store, I'm seeing hustle clean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm on. Now that's some new stuff popping too, you
Speaker 1: got yeah, we gotta talk about all right, so listen,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. We got the first, we got
Speaker 1: some icebreakers. All right. If you were a pair of shoes,
Speaker 1: what brand new shoes would you be? Oh, she's Air
Speaker 1: Force Ones Classic, you know, verst until you can wear
Speaker 1: with anything. The white ones are the black ones, though,
Speaker 1: that's the key question you put on the scheme. Man.
Speaker 1: You run a block on somebody with the black ones,
Speaker 1: you can roll. You ain't go. No black ones too, though,
Speaker 1: you pull up with the black air Force ones, I
Speaker 1: know you didn't rob somebody before. No, no, no, just
Speaker 1: the white ones. Yeah, the white ones. All right, what's
Speaker 1: your favorite? Uh? Just favorite snack? O favorite snack? Oh?
Speaker 1: I know the next question because we've had this debate.
Speaker 1: Go continue favorite snack. That's a that's a tough one. Um.
Speaker 1: I was. I like smoothies, So if I canna make
Speaker 1: a nice smoothie, that's a cool snack for me. So
Speaker 1: we've had this debate in the locker room in the cafeteria. Cereal,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite? What's your favorite cereal? Ugly face? Hey, uh,
Speaker 1: speak to me with some respect while I'm on the show. Uh,
Speaker 1: honey nut cheerios. That's a classic too. He just goes
Speaker 1: to the classics. I'm a class I'm a classic man.
Speaker 1: So I will say like, I'll be like, oh uh captain, yeah,
Speaker 1: Captain crustfoot, that's not still he would go yeah, he
Speaker 1: would go candy. He's like, I'm like, and what is
Speaker 1: honey nut CEOs? He's like, man, it helps kill your
Speaker 1: helps keep your co strong. Justin how you feel about
Speaker 1: a shredded wheat? Oh terrible, terrible, shat is terrible? Uh,
Speaker 1: Steve Smith another favorite his raising brand Cereal, which is terrible.
Speaker 1: That tells me that your palette is terrible. If it
Speaker 1: tastes like the cardboard that it's in, that's exactly eat
Speaker 1: it quick. You gotta take a shot of cereal like
Speaker 1: it's like first of all, if first of all, if
Speaker 1: you pour like me and you ain't letting that thing
Speaker 1: sit alone, that's why she Yeah, no, he we had
Speaker 1: this debate. I would ask him, you see me in
Speaker 1: the stadium in the counter here, I will eat I
Speaker 1: will eat some razors. N I'm talking about market like.
Speaker 1: But I ain't letting it sit a long now, because
Speaker 1: that's that. But when I was growing up, though, I
Speaker 1: didn't have some shredded wheat that tastes like corrible. He
Speaker 1: has a bad palaque here in case General Mills wants
Speaker 1: a we apologize. So that's you get that shredderway for free.
Speaker 1: And you so and how you and that's all you have.
Speaker 1: So you have to switch it up. You go hot milk,
Speaker 1: cold milk, a little little butter and some sugar that
Speaker 1: shrewd to eat delicious. You gotta add butter and sugar
Speaker 1: to the serial. I don't want it. That's why I
Speaker 1: don't like grits. Oh yeah, all right, Well that's that.
Speaker 1: That was it, what we got. That's it. Now we're
Speaker 1: about to get into it. You want to know about you? Okay,
Speaker 1: I thought just this icebreaker. You want some more rapid fires.
Speaker 1: What you want all right, I got one. Uh what what? Uh?
Speaker 1: Tell me a dog that doesn't bite? A dog that
Speaker 1: doesn't bite me? You said you're talking about like you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a dog. I'm a dog. Right, it's a hot dog.
Speaker 1: Stupid Okay, like that. I'm gonna use that. I bet
Speaker 1: you are. Alright, Hey, how many how many months? Have
Speaker 1: twenty eight days? All of them have twenty eight days?
Speaker 1: You and cues? No, you're on his cues. I don't
Speaker 1: know abody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you know I had
Speaker 1: my my degree in the background' u ce Berkeleys got
Speaker 1: packed twelve. Let's go, y'all still in the pack twelve?
Speaker 1: Come on, man, were down, we're rebuilding. He meant you
Speaker 1: mentioned it, not me? Ten your rebuilding? Hal they only
Speaker 1: came to fame and Rogers. Come on now, de Sean Jackson,
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch. I'm just telling you what I've been there.
Speaker 1: That's all they claimed. Wasn't Marshaw in your roommate. That's
Speaker 1: that's funny. You're talking about hilarious. That's gotta bell me
Speaker 1: and him in the same I'm gonna say, I'm like
Speaker 1: were you you and I like you? With Steve Smith,
Speaker 1: that's like, what is that like? You know, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: our first encounter with one another was interesting because we're
Speaker 1: talked about we're at the conference where the uh PO
Speaker 1: conference is like, uh, you know, couples Conference Christians couple
Speaker 1: couple of conference that we do every year and ministry
Speaker 1: and workshop and all those things, and doing the workshops
Speaker 1: throughout the day. We have time to play basketball, just
Speaker 1: like some free time, downtime to hang out. And uh,
Speaker 1: me and Steve regarding each other. I didn't. I wasn't
Speaker 1: regarding me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well he couldn't. That was
Speaker 1: the issue, Like he couldn't. He can he can hold
Speaker 1: me out? That's right, I couldn't, So so I guess
Speaker 1: I may have kind of. I may have kind of
Speaker 1: I was a little aggressive. Uh. That was the first
Speaker 1: time he's told the truth of the story. How many
Speaker 1: years we've been friends. It's the first time the Lord
Speaker 1: is working on them. God bless you. Go ahead. I
Speaker 1: may have been a little bit of aggressive and uh
Speaker 1: one of the times he just like he had to
Speaker 1: stop playing, just like let them me and say, hey man,
Speaker 1: you gotta ease up a little bit. And Uh, I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'm gonna he's up in respect because
Speaker 1: Steve Smithsterley, so I backed up a little bit, but
Speaker 1: I ever since then I felt like, Okay, Steve Smith,
Speaker 1: I mean he's a turd. And then he got it
Speaker 1: against Steve Smith. He's a turd. I think that's the
Speaker 1: name of this episode. Stop aggress because he's that kind
Speaker 1: of party Steve smithter turd. Continue that's gonna be. That's
Speaker 1: what I rtanalized. So yeah, just use this face, yea.
Speaker 1: The so long story short, we ended up playing on
Speaker 1: the same team in Baltimore in two thousand and thirteen
Speaker 1: fourteen I believe, no. Fourteen and fifteen um and a
Speaker 1: little bit of sixth team. We got a chance to
Speaker 1: when our lockers were right next to each other. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, right off the bat, I could tell that
Speaker 1: this one, this guy's, you know, as advertised, crazy competitor,
Speaker 1: like just every day bringing energy. His work ethic was crazy,
Speaker 1: and at this time he had to be at least
Speaker 1: you know, at the time we were playing for one another,
Speaker 1: and since since you're a spring chicken, yeah he he
Speaker 1: would know serious. Like it was like to see his
Speaker 1: work ethic in his grind every day. It was impressive.
Speaker 1: But it was more impressive was just seeing the man
Speaker 1: behind the helmet, like you see like Steve Smith. You
Speaker 1: know you see these cut ups, you know, highlights on
Speaker 1: NFL network, and um, to see the heart of the
Speaker 1: man like that was what drew me in. Was like, man,
Speaker 1: this guy like really cares for his family. This guy
Speaker 1: has a unique story and back line and and uh
Speaker 1: he cares for his teammates in a real way. And
Speaker 1: he will you know, he'll give you the shirt off
Speaker 1: his back. So I mean, I think at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, just like my relationship with Marshawn and
Speaker 1: anybody else, like it's all about authenticity and real and
Speaker 1: that that's usually the connecting point. I think that because
Speaker 1: I was a hundred myself and he was himself. Uh,
Speaker 1: were connected and he had a bond in the friendship brotherhood.
Speaker 1: So man, I got nothing but positive things to say
Speaker 1: about Steve Smith, sr. Man. He's good. We man, we
Speaker 1: had some we had some interesting conversations on and off
Speaker 1: the field, but hell, we had a lot of interesting
Speaker 1: conversations in the huddle too. On the field, like he'll
Speaker 1: be trying to talk like like first, shut up dog,
Speaker 1: he's holding him back and trying to get him kicked
Speaker 1: out of a game, like fortunately, Like come on, stay
Speaker 1: like bro, if you don't get off of me, Like, bro,
Speaker 1: get out of the way. Do you want He's trying
Speaker 1: to get Samaritan here trying to get but let somebody
Speaker 1: do something though to him, all right, Steve, go get
Speaker 1: That wasn't the case, wen't. We didn't have we didn't
Speaker 1: have much of that going on, but it was it
Speaker 1: was It was fun. I mean, you've had a lot
Speaker 1: of encounters with a lot of players and justin how
Speaker 1: how easy or difficult is it to have those authentic
Speaker 1: relationships uh in the league? Man, Um, It's it's how
Speaker 1: you make it right. I feel like because I was
Speaker 1: on seven teams, Um, I got a chance to meet
Speaker 1: a lot of different people, and I invested my time
Speaker 1: and you know energy, and like I wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure that I just didn't stop a place and it
Speaker 1: was transactional, but it is actually you know, transformative where
Speaker 1: I can have you know, these lifeline bonds that I have,
Speaker 1: So whether it's somebody that needed help on their charity
Speaker 1: or camp football camp, I was gonna be there to
Speaker 1: serve Like my mission inside the locker room in our
Speaker 1: football field was to try to you know, have impact
Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully somebody can see the light inside
Speaker 1: of me and uh inspire them to be better and
Speaker 1: do better. And so I spent time with those relationships.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't that hard for me, honestly to have
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Speaker 1: I got all my answers, questions. Uh yeah, I got
Speaker 1: all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother,
Speaker 1: cut to a podcast dot com being on seven teams. Though, psychologically,
Speaker 1: what what what did that do to you? And I said,
Speaker 1: I asked with such a broad spectrum because I I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I mean, I kind of can assume,
Speaker 1: but I want to make a idiot out of myself.
Speaker 1: But I'm just wondering, you know, I did not. I'm
Speaker 1: not not saying it the wrong way. I didn't have
Speaker 1: that right. So I can't imagine that I remember at
Speaker 1: that little small moment you know, gee, you know is
Speaker 1: that when you get released, there's a you know, or
Speaker 1: you get fired, whatever the case may be, the transition
Speaker 1: of jobs, it's you know it it does something to you.
Speaker 1: But you got that seven times? Yeah what that do
Speaker 1: to you? Man? And put a chip on my shoulder.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm already I was already undersized coming into
Speaker 1: the league, right, wasn't supposed to make it long as
Speaker 1: you know, a five eight hundred running back. Hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, so you finally said your real height five
Speaker 1: eight okay, fluctuates. Um. So what it did was it
Speaker 1: was kind of one It told me that, you know,
Speaker 1: the league is not loyal, Like there's no team that lloyal.
Speaker 1: That's that's loyal, right, um the Loyd to a degree.
Speaker 1: And for me, it was kind of like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: if you've ever been step in the friend zone. Maybe
Speaker 1: you guys never had that that problem, right, It was
Speaker 1: like these teams were like completely yeah, ever ever ever
Speaker 1: stuck in the friend zone. It was like that, man,
Speaker 1: it was like like they liked my service, they like
Speaker 1: what I provided to the team, but it wasn't enough
Speaker 1: for an investment, a long term committed you know, with
Speaker 1: partnership or relationship with me, And that built up a
Speaker 1: callous right and it feels like at times like, man,
Speaker 1: when am I going to find that like one true
Speaker 1: spot or eam that say? Man, I'm gonna bet on
Speaker 1: Justin I want I love what he brings to the
Speaker 1: table when he's worth it. So I was just like
Speaker 1: really fighting every year to have like, you know, that
Speaker 1: place where I could call home and have stability for
Speaker 1: my family. And uh, you know, until I found that place,
Speaker 1: you know, you know at the telling of my career
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, where I got a chance to have that
Speaker 1: commitment and you know, have a place where I at
Speaker 1: least feel side for a few years. Um, it felt good,
Speaker 1: But up until that point it was it was a
Speaker 1: dog fight. So take us backwards. You know, where are
Speaker 1: you from in the place you call your hometown hometown Moreburry, Florida,
Speaker 1: three thousand people right in the center uh central central Florida,
Speaker 1: right between Tampa and Orlando. Uh, false fate minding is big.
Speaker 1: They're not a lot of people make it out to
Speaker 1: accomplish their dreams, goals and aspirations in life, but hard
Speaker 1: working people humble beginnings. UM. Family financially unstable for most
Speaker 1: of my life, bounce around from place to place, never
Speaker 1: owned a home. Remember time when I had to take
Speaker 1: baths with bottle waters zephy Hills water bottles down in Florida.
Speaker 1: I remember doing my homework by candle light because our
Speaker 1: power bills light bill, we couldn't pay us, so we
Speaker 1: shut off. I remember running from repo man and you know,
Speaker 1: my parents put me on the call on the phone
Speaker 1: to answer repo man and tell them that we're not
Speaker 1: here or we're parking a car down the street in
Speaker 1: order to and walk home. Um. And then at our
Speaker 1: very lowest being homeless living out of a motel at
Speaker 1: the age of twelve thirteen, where you know, all five
Speaker 1: of us his family of three boys, I was the
Speaker 1: middle child and living in this moach other edge of town.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, just at that moment in my life,
Speaker 1: was trying to make a decision declaring that I was
Speaker 1: gonna have more for myself and for my family and
Speaker 1: my future family. So yeah, that was that, that was
Speaker 1: me going up but faith driven home. That was a pastor.
Speaker 1: So um, you know I got a kind of that
Speaker 1: that that foundation laid earlier. Just like knowing that, you know,
Speaker 1: I had to have extreme faith, um, not only myself
Speaker 1: but God, but also Um, I got to put the
Speaker 1: work in and it's gonna take a lot of discipline
Speaker 1: and commitment. And I saw that from my parents, whether
Speaker 1: he was my dad was having a restaurant, he was
Speaker 1: preaching and driving trucks my mom Like, I just saw
Speaker 1: him do a lot of different jobs and to make
Speaker 1: way for us. So um, just that guys working. It
Speaker 1: wasn't still in me early, so it really pushed me
Speaker 1: to be more for me for myself. What do you
Speaker 1: think you're your family heirlooms are what did your what's
Speaker 1: your folks hand down to you that you're now handing
Speaker 1: down to your children. I would say just that I
Speaker 1: was nothing like physical right, but it was just like
Speaker 1: that my faith like it was one at an early
Speaker 1: age I was instilled still in me. Um that I
Speaker 1: passed down to my kids. Uh. That work ethic right, Um,
Speaker 1: that I just talked about, like that is something that's
Speaker 1: been ingrained to me. Like nothing comes nothing nothing, Uh
Speaker 1: there's no substitute for hard work. Right. If you're not
Speaker 1: putting in the work in you know, nothing good is
Speaker 1: gonna come from it. So I tried to passed down
Speaker 1: to my kids. And then also just being um not
Speaker 1: afraid of being different, right, just walking into my like
Speaker 1: authenticity and um not being okay with not fitting in
Speaker 1: the things that you know. I try to pass on
Speaker 1: that my parents and still at me that I tried
Speaker 1: stealing instill them to my my kids. I mean speaking
Speaker 1: of that, you you mentioned you a minister's child, and
Speaker 1: there's always kind of the stereotypical label of of being
Speaker 1: a p K, being a preacher's child. Do you feel
Speaker 1: like you were that stereotypical? How did that affect your
Speaker 1: not only your childhood but now looking back on how
Speaker 1: to affect your career and ultimately life. No, I mean
Speaker 1: for me, I think a lot of people. You know,
Speaker 1: when you talk about the p k's going wild or no,
Speaker 1: you're not a PK wild. You're a p K like
Speaker 1: he is. He's a like knowing knowing, not knowing of
Speaker 1: him and his history, observing them and seeing them, seeing
Speaker 1: this authenticity, hearing him speak, and then when he says
Speaker 1: you know. Then when I found out he's a preacher's kid,
Speaker 1: then I go, oh, it connected the dots. But now
Speaker 1: as a parent, I think I'd rather have a p
Speaker 1: K kid to connect those dots than having someone else
Speaker 1: that isn't you know what I mean, like because what
Speaker 1: I said, what I mean by that is being a
Speaker 1: father of four kids, two of them at the house,
Speaker 1: one on his way out bam, and six one by
Speaker 1: the way, just letting you know, um and seeing that
Speaker 1: I was talking to a buddy at the event and
Speaker 1: he said that his he said, Man, all these guys
Speaker 1: kids that we know that are well off, he said, Man,
Speaker 1: every single one of their kids, it's not living life
Speaker 1: the way he was he raised them. And so just
Speaker 1: looking at that, like me and and you are very
Speaker 1: thankful that, you know, we got some of the kids
Speaker 1: that we have. But then looking at you know, just
Speaker 1: knowing justin and what he experienced as his friend, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, looking at the highsight, I really have a
Speaker 1: peak kid, you know, a preacher's kid, and someone who
Speaker 1: has no home training, who has no guidelines, because it's
Speaker 1: almost you going backwards and just watching them and seeing
Speaker 1: them and his his foundation is so strong it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, he has the he does have the innate
Speaker 1: ability to um identify and and and socialize with every
Speaker 1: every every type. It created boundaries for me, honestly, you know,
Speaker 1: throughout out my journey, like I knew that I was different,
Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of people say, when you
Speaker 1: especially going up in like fake community, a lot of
Speaker 1: people say, when you go to college, people lose their religion, right,
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't believe that. I believe that.
Speaker 1: You know, kids go to college and they lose their
Speaker 1: parents religion, so they never owned it for themselves. So
Speaker 1: for me, I owned it for myself, like I had
Speaker 1: a relationship, like I felt like I was doing, like
Speaker 1: I was trying to do as much as I could
Speaker 1: to get close to God, to have my own personal relationship,
Speaker 1: my own journey with them, and I had that early on.
Speaker 1: So so knowing that and walking in that, I was
Speaker 1: okay and confident and bold in my faith and not
Speaker 1: afraid to be different. And there's some places I couldn't go,
Speaker 1: things I couldn't do, and I was and I was
Speaker 1: okay with that. Right I might have been made fun
Speaker 1: of or you know, I was known as the guy
Speaker 1: in the locker room. I was like, especially going up
Speaker 1: to college and even part early on in my career,
Speaker 1: like I I waited to have sex until I got married,
Speaker 1: you know. So I was that guy in the locker
Speaker 1: room where like you were going to the club or
Speaker 1: you know, you know, people wanted to do certain things,
Speaker 1: and I was just like I can't. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not doing I don't know. It's not that
Speaker 1: I I can't, it's just like I just don't want
Speaker 1: to choose not to. Yeah, I chose not to be
Speaker 1: a locker to you like Steve Ke, you just not
Speaker 1: cussing at him. Yeah, and then here's the challenge he
Speaker 1: say you can't doing In some days I've been like, no,
Speaker 1: I can't. And it's it's all about And for me,
Speaker 1: every situation was like you know, how can I have impact?
Speaker 1: Like anything that happened to me, I wasn't gonna allow
Speaker 1: it to define me. I was gonna allow it to
Speaker 1: refine me. So I always had like this spiritual like
Speaker 1: connection that drew me in Like, Okay, I've been rejected here.
Speaker 1: People tell me I couldn't make it here, but I
Speaker 1: know what, Like God, uh, that's about me? Who I
Speaker 1: am and I know I had that Like it's like
Speaker 1: the superpower is like this equalizer that I had within me.
Speaker 1: It's like in any situation, I can have peace, UM,
Speaker 1: and I can overcome because of it. So that's that's
Speaker 1: kind of take me through this superpower, boy, take me
Speaker 1: through this um. On signing day in college back in
Speaker 1: fifteen seventy five, Notre Dame pulls their scholarship offer from
Speaker 1: from you man. Walk us through that. It was hard
Speaker 1: breaking man, And yeah, I tell the story often is that, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, as a seventh year old kid, you know,
Speaker 1: feeling that you're going to know there Dame and family
Speaker 1: is excited. You're excited, and then a week before signing
Speaker 1: day they told me they didn't need me anymore. I
Speaker 1: was crushed. I remember going out into it was the
Speaker 1: head coach. No, it was TYD Willingham, dag black On
Speaker 1: black Crow continue. Yeah, so it was difficult, but it
Speaker 1: was that that was like a pivotal point within my
Speaker 1: my journey as a man and as a you know,
Speaker 1: a young man at the time, because at that point
Speaker 1: I went down to a basement, I was crying, I
Speaker 1: was praying. I remember doing that. Noting vividly where I
Speaker 1: just like, God, you gotta show me something. I'm the
Speaker 1: guy that's going to Bible staying, I'm going praying every
Speaker 1: night like I'm doing all the things I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: be doing, right, But it seems like you're blessing everybody
Speaker 1: else but be And I said, God, you gotta show
Speaker 1: me something. And at that moment, I'll just flipped up
Speaker 1: in the Bible and it took me the Proverbs three
Speaker 1: five through six. And I know this is not like
Speaker 1: a you know, faith based podcast, but I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get this off. Um. It was probably three were talked about.
Speaker 1: Hold on, excuse me, I'll get this verse off. Okay,
Speaker 1: Proverbs three five. Chill man, I don't gonna go Ah.
Speaker 1: You said, you know it's not the faith based podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh we faith based. We just you're gonna we we
Speaker 1: it just we sprinkling in so to keep keep hiding on.
Speaker 1: It's all. It's all. We're on a slab our slap
Speaker 1: is built on on on on the solid rock. Last
Speaker 1: time I check. I mean, Joe is Catholic, but other
Speaker 1: than that, we're good not a practice of Catholic, but
Speaker 1: he's still all of a sudden, I'm dancing with snakes.
Speaker 1: Alle I continue ugly. But the first, the first proverb
Speaker 1: to talks about trust the little guy with all your
Speaker 1: heart and lean out on your own understanding, acknowledging in
Speaker 1: all your ways, and help that your path. And at
Speaker 1: that point, as I was reading that text, it was
Speaker 1: as if like I felt this warm senstation come over
Speaker 1: my body. It felt like God was wrapping his arms
Speaker 1: around me. And I never felt anything like that in
Speaker 1: my life. And at the moment after I got down
Speaker 1: praying like nothing in externally ever, like my situation hadn't changed,
Speaker 1: but internally felt like everything had changed. So was that
Speaker 1: first perspective perspective I was going to excel at what
Speaker 1: I could control and I do got had a plan
Speaker 1: for me. And then you know, months down the road,
Speaker 1: Kyle uc Berkeley, you know called an offer scholarship in May,
Speaker 1: when signed it is in February, and when I'm off
Speaker 1: to college. I mean, what do they what what a
Speaker 1: note that they aim saying other than you know that
Speaker 1: they said they need you anymore? What explanation did they
Speaker 1: have or did they have in it? It wasn't much
Speaker 1: other than you know they had um. You know, some
Speaker 1: backs that signed, uh that they didn't think was going
Speaker 1: to sign. So what I'm going through that process, you know,
Speaker 1: just really looking at it, What do you think of
Speaker 1: the state of college sports and and and and and
Speaker 1: the NFL? Just from your perspective of a of a
Speaker 1: of a guy, how does college sports hurt the no names?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because we look on television,
Speaker 1: we see all these people they get to choose to hat.
Speaker 1: But what about all the kids who don't get to
Speaker 1: choose to have? What about the kids who like yourself,
Speaker 1: like myself, where we're hoping to dream and a prayer
Speaker 1: that somebody gives us an opportunity, because that's the only
Speaker 1: way we can get to college is by someone offering
Speaker 1: a scholarship. Because how much it costs and and and
Speaker 1: the you know, and the lack of resources. Hell, we
Speaker 1: could barely keep the lights on, let alone go off
Speaker 1: to out of state colleges. Yeah, no, it's tough. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't get a scholarship. You know, it's really hard
Speaker 1: from people to serve communities. And then if you're from
Speaker 1: a small town, it can be even harder right to
Speaker 1: to shine and you know, get that exposure but I
Speaker 1: feel like it's just there's a lot of different opportunities
Speaker 1: now for kids, um, even more so than I had
Speaker 1: as far as technology and getting your tape out there,
Speaker 1: that if in social media. That it's it's a lot
Speaker 1: better than when we had UM coming up. But there's
Speaker 1: still a lot of work to be done. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're still gonna get kids, gonna go overlooked. They're still
Speaker 1: stories like mine that are happening, um, you know, over
Speaker 1: and over again, year after year, year and year again
Speaker 1: after signing day. So man, honestly, I don't know what
Speaker 1: can be done to you know, help that just because
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's just it's only a couple of colleges,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a couple of thousand colleges and millions
Speaker 1: of kids want to play this game that we love,
Speaker 1: and you know, so I don't I don't know, man.
Speaker 1: I just say, guys can excel at what they can control,
Speaker 1: um and just focus on, you know, being the best
Speaker 1: version of yourself. And you know, you lize in the
Speaker 1: leveraging the technology that they have out there. Now it's
Speaker 1: really it's a it's a better opportunity for you to
Speaker 1: be seen, even if you're small. Good do it, good,
Speaker 1: do it. Let's getting down to do it good. Hey Gerard,
Speaker 1: why did you get that T shirt? You mean this thing?
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Speaker 1: can go on, buy you a T shirt, subscribe to
Speaker 1: us wherever you listen to podcasts. You're going to Florida,
Speaker 1: you know, being raised a little bit in Texas, so
Speaker 1: you've had a lot of both for us. But man,
Speaker 1: you act like and you want to be from the
Speaker 1: West coast. Man, how was that experience for you? Just
Speaker 1: being coming far south then in Texas and then going
Speaker 1: to going to cow State Berkeley is a It's interesting
Speaker 1: because at that time, I mean, it's it is like,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, this is cal State Berkeley is everything hippie,
Speaker 1: like all the hippie stuff. You think it's time. It's
Speaker 1: times that put some respect on our name. It is you.
Speaker 1: There is no state in our y'all. Y'all, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry your sports play like it's a state schooled because
Speaker 1: we are public school. No, no, no state. But it
Speaker 1: was definitely a y'all play football. Y'all playing football currently
Speaker 1: right now, like cal State Fullerton. I can not I
Speaker 1: can not knock you there, Um I think. I mean
Speaker 1: for us, it was a culture. It was a culture
Speaker 1: shock for me because I come from Bible Bell. I
Speaker 1: came from the South and then going to the West
Speaker 1: Coast and I'm out hanging out with folks, you know,
Speaker 1: my uh first people I'm meeting, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: to run up a young kid out of Oakland, California
Speaker 1: named Marshall LANCHI were, you know, roommates together and we're
Speaker 1: going to hanging out and people talking about this hype
Speaker 1: movement and Matt Dre all this stuff. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm from I don't know. I mean, I know Kurt
Speaker 1: Franklin grints, so price is what you do. It was
Speaker 1: over that. He was over that pray and watch out
Speaker 1: that now you know. Yeah, we had in Florida, you know,
Speaker 1: tricked that. He was huge a little Wayne is still
Speaker 1: like throing the South. So I had no like it
Speaker 1: was just a whole different culture from me. But again,
Speaker 1: like I talked about earlier with us, like like people
Speaker 1: really respect authenticity. So I was just a hundred percent myself,
Speaker 1: like I had good enough heavy accent coming in and uh,
Speaker 1: you know they came in, they embraced embraced me because
Speaker 1: I worked hard. Um, I was a good teammate and
Speaker 1: uh I enjoyed it. Like I met my wife there.
Speaker 1: The people of great food was great, the school was amazing.
Speaker 1: So you know, I just tried to make my mark,
Speaker 1: you know, not didn't conform to the to the culture,
Speaker 1: but I was gonna have the impact. Yeah. Boy, it's funny,
Speaker 1: you know for Shad is it it's funny? Is it? Good? Dude?
Speaker 1: But it's it's a lot of the relationship I love
Speaker 1: aforesaid that we have is we can talk about anything.
Speaker 1: We gonna argue over cereal, but just he's engaging and
Speaker 1: he he more than anything, he meets you where you're at.
Speaker 1: And you don't get a lot of people like that,
Speaker 1: especially in the league. You don't get a lot of people.
Speaker 1: So you say he meets you where you had, what
Speaker 1: do you mean by we've had? Me and force that
Speaker 1: have had a lot of I mean I struggle with
Speaker 1: my faith, just straight up. And it's not that I struggle.
Speaker 1: My faith isn't like I don't believe in God. I struggle.
Speaker 1: My faith is is in and me and Force had
Speaker 1: to have this conversation too. It's it's so many, so
Speaker 1: many Christians who try to like, you know, they try
Speaker 1: to say things sometimes, Oh are you asking, man, how
Speaker 1: are you doing? I'm blessed, Yeah, blessing Holly Favor. And
Speaker 1: there's been times where we've been injured and he's like, man,
Speaker 1: how do you really feel? Yeah, and he and there's
Speaker 1: no judgment and like Blessing Holly Favor. It's like, man,
Speaker 1: but I just got my foot cut off. So I'm
Speaker 1: struggling to that and to have that, you know. And
Speaker 1: there's some people like Bro, I guess the he's he's
Speaker 1: not always on. He's just foreset where you can talk
Speaker 1: and you can question, you can ask, and we can
Speaker 1: talk about anything. And it's different versus blessed in Holy Favor.
Speaker 1: And then it's like, but okay, yeah, I know we
Speaker 1: all are. But some days it's a tough day and
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? Right? Like you, you're not
Speaker 1: going to Notre Dame and going down the basement crying
Speaker 1: and asking God, you know, why are you blessing all
Speaker 1: these other of people? But me and I've done this
Speaker 1: and that like, that's true transparency. That's what I think.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people forget that Christ did that when he was like,
Speaker 1: I cannot can I find another way other than this
Speaker 1: way that you're saying that I have to go? And
Speaker 1: sometimes people forget that in the people want to be job,
Speaker 1: they forget that Christ even cried and I'm Joe, man,
Speaker 1: you ain't job stopped acting like you Daniel too, ain't
Speaker 1: no lions, Dan, no round there here, right, It's just
Speaker 1: just some of that. So it's just really cool too
Speaker 1: that like I just said who he is who he is, right,
Speaker 1: and and it's and it's you don't have to hide
Speaker 1: who you are, and you had you know what you say,
Speaker 1: I say, I appreciate you man. That that's that's that's
Speaker 1: kind words man. You had your authentic right and not
Speaker 1: saying that that other people aren't. But sometimes it's you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's it's it's different and forced us the same way, right,
Speaker 1: Like we could joke people listen to this and they
Speaker 1: be like, man, them dude is calling each other ugly
Speaker 1: and turn like but we a joke around. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we got each other's back, right,
Speaker 1: you know, that's do that's do justin what are some
Speaker 1: things you've cleaned from from your relationship with Steve oh
Speaker 1: oh Man? So much? Um And, And that's why I
Speaker 1: find it's important for us to, uh to connect and
Speaker 1: build relationship with people that you know, that are you know,
Speaker 1: opposite of us in a in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: because there's so much that we can get from learn
Speaker 1: from anybody out there. Right. So Steve, for me, he
Speaker 1: really challenged me to get out of my comfort zone.
Speaker 1: And I feel like even now, just my time with
Speaker 1: him allowed me to be a better CEO because like
Speaker 1: for me, like my my past, like I'm non confrontational. Uh,
Speaker 1: my disposition is like you know, I'm coming to make
Speaker 1: you know peace in the situation. And I feel like
Speaker 1: even in the h it reminds me of just like Jesus.
Speaker 1: Jesus was tender and tough, and I feel like in
Speaker 1: that side, like Steve, Steve really pushed me to be
Speaker 1: more outspoken, to be more bold and it being okay,
Speaker 1: like for a conflict and and if things aren't okay,
Speaker 1: it's okay to say that. Um And as a man,
Speaker 1: as a as a husband, as a CEO, as now
Speaker 1: being more mature than even I was then like I
Speaker 1: really embraced that, like because there's just such a thing
Speaker 1: as healthy conflict and things do need to be addressed
Speaker 1: and things aren't going right, you need to voice your
Speaker 1: opinion and say so right. And uh, I just feel
Speaker 1: like the way he lived his life is like it was.
Speaker 1: It's bold, um, it's passionate, and I aspire to to
Speaker 1: be more like that in a lot of in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways. So but people think also I'm reckless though,
Speaker 1: Like people you know what I'm saying, Like people think
Speaker 1: that I'm just like just reckless, and it's and I
Speaker 1: do admit I do sometimes give people the perception of
Speaker 1: what they what I can read off them, what they
Speaker 1: believe I am. But one that's calculating. Man, I'll play
Speaker 1: to the audience and and and and play them straight
Speaker 1: up into dumb dumb mode because then and then flip
Speaker 1: the script of the and then it's like, oh, Steve
Speaker 1: is very smart and it's very into like the minute
Speaker 1: details of things, like if you want to go granular
Speaker 1: about any type of subject, he's going he can go
Speaker 1: there with you. I watched them handling business cars, uh,
Speaker 1: doing you know, physical therapy in the in the training room,
Speaker 1: and I watch them whole people accountable, and I watched
Speaker 1: them being a behold conversations with people in other industries
Speaker 1: and be there and be at the same level. So
Speaker 1: UH just as well rounded this. Of course everybody sees
Speaker 1: the passion, but there's a real in behind. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not none of none of the things that at
Speaker 1: least I've been around or have been anything that wasn't
Speaker 1: UM you know that was frivolous. So will you tell
Speaker 1: us about your entrepreneur endeavors. You mentioned your CEO being
Speaker 1: able to take away? What do your CEO of? So
Speaker 1: I'm a CEO of a mission driven self care brand
Speaker 1: called Hustle Clean. What we do is we create convenient
Speaker 1: products with clean ingredients for the everyday athlete UH and
Speaker 1: fitness enthusiasts. And it's really a spend like UH to
Speaker 1: really empower and give resources to the community that UM
Speaker 1: that wants to be more out of life without compromising
Speaker 1: their health. So there's this hustle culture out there where
Speaker 1: people feel like man in order to be successful, you
Speaker 1: gotta work yourself to the bone and you gotta be
Speaker 1: you you. You don't have time for yourself to like
Speaker 1: refuel and recharge, and like we're trying to you know,
Speaker 1: debunk that narrative by providing this uh continued of like
Speaker 1: self care where people can recharge and regroup and then
Speaker 1: go attack life. But if you don't put your oxygen
Speaker 1: mask on before you put you know, on your kids
Speaker 1: or the people around you, then what good are you?
Speaker 1: You know, if you're gone. So that's what we try
Speaker 1: to be. We try to be that oxygen mask for
Speaker 1: that that hustler out there that's trying to go after
Speaker 1: life and uh, you know, a very impactful way, but
Speaker 1: do it, you know, in a productive way, in a
Speaker 1: healthy safety way. What have you learned in your business
Speaker 1: that you wish you would applied while you're a player.
Speaker 1: Uh it's that uh um. I say, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of similarities, um um, between sports and business. And one
Speaker 1: of the things that I see similar and I posted
Speaker 1: this today, is that entrepreneurs um they just like sports
Speaker 1: and football athletes, they they a lot of times placed
Speaker 1: their identity in what they do. And for me, at
Speaker 1: one point it was it was changing hats. Right. I
Speaker 1: went into one profession and I got consumed by everything.
Speaker 1: You know, put my football helmet down and I got
Speaker 1: consumed by everything that is entrepreneurship and the neglecting a
Speaker 1: lot of things that mean most well as family. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna At one point, I was seventy flights in
Speaker 1: the air in a year and traveling a lot, and
Speaker 1: for me, what I wish I could go back and
Speaker 1: you know, apply it's just making sure that um, I'm
Speaker 1: prioritizing and um and I'm spending more time in those
Speaker 1: things that matter most for me, like I'm doing now,
Speaker 1: so I create my own schedule, like I don't have
Speaker 1: somebody else creating creating a schedule for me for football,
Speaker 1: so I'm able to get my family time and when
Speaker 1: I'm coaching my sons in flat football, whether I'm doing
Speaker 1: date night with my wife, whether you know, playing in
Speaker 1: the activity uh for our community or my church. Like
Speaker 1: I'm able to do that because UM, I think that
Speaker 1: there's there's something um special about us pausing in life
Speaker 1: and uh spending time on those things that really matter
Speaker 1: the most, which you know, like your family and your
Speaker 1: kids and your loved ones. Because I can make all
Speaker 1: the money, like I'm trying to make money. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not in a nonprofit space, right, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: make money for my investors and for my team here
Speaker 1: here for my family. But but I value the way
Speaker 1: I to go about it, like I'm not Like purpose
Speaker 1: is just as important to me as profit. So the
Speaker 1: way in which I go about success is different. Then
Speaker 1: you're probably your other conentrepreneurs that you may may see
Speaker 1: out there on your Forbes and your LinkedIn, Like I
Speaker 1: want to make sure that I'm doing it the right way.
Speaker 1: Like for me to have success and have a billion
Speaker 1: dollar business and lose my family, um, it's not worth
Speaker 1: it for for me, right, So but I think you
Speaker 1: have success and take care of your family, um and uh,
Speaker 1: and then you can do it in a positive way.
Speaker 1: So what's your definition of success? I knew he was
Speaker 1: gonna have a go too. I saw you that wasn't
Speaker 1: you know your hamster was turned. I had like three
Speaker 1: I had like three spades, But when I saw him,
Speaker 1: when I saw him play that little, I know I
Speaker 1: had that big do it because I wasn't gonna I
Speaker 1: had to. I had that book. No, for me, it's
Speaker 1: walking in my purpose and calling like I feel like
Speaker 1: in my life, uh, like my gifts are to me
Speaker 1: inspiring encourage like so whichever vehicle wherever I had I'm wearing.
Speaker 1: At one point it was football, like that was my
Speaker 1: vehicle in which I can really inspire and encourage people.
Speaker 1: Now entrepreneurship, I'm able to inspire and encourage people. So
Speaker 1: as long as it's meeting those things, like I'm successful,
Speaker 1: I'm happy in my family, and my inspiring my family
Speaker 1: to new going to be better, and my encouraging them
Speaker 1: doing downtimes are helping people reach their potential in life.
Speaker 1: Like it has to fit that. So that's success to me.
Speaker 1: That's what I value most, is just me walking in
Speaker 1: I feel like my God give me call him. That's
Speaker 1: what man. So what have you learned? Well? This this
Speaker 1: will be the last question. I know you gotta get
Speaker 1: out of here. But what have you learned out early?
Speaker 1: You know, use late to us. What have you learned
Speaker 1: from What have you learned from any failure in life? Oh?
Speaker 1: I say this all the time. I say greatness grows
Speaker 1: best in the shadows. And what I mean by that
Speaker 1: is that we don't get our greatest games in life
Speaker 1: when we're at the top of the mountain. We'll get
Speaker 1: our greatest games in life on our climb and our
Speaker 1: pursuit to the top, those moments when we're constantly being
Speaker 1: pulled and stretched and we have to fight opposition and adversity,
Speaker 1: and we have to dig deeper than ourselves and put
Speaker 1: our things that we even know existed in order to
Speaker 1: take us to the next level in life. So we
Speaker 1: have to learn how to embrace the difficulty. We have
Speaker 1: to embrace the trial, because those things will push us
Speaker 1: closer to our dreams and our goals in life if
Speaker 1: we have the right perspective. You know, um, ease is
Speaker 1: a greater threat to progress, you know than hardship. So
Speaker 1: I would much rather embrace those moments of adversity UM
Speaker 1: at tough times UM than not, because that's what we
Speaker 1: get our greats though growth. Man. Well, we appreciate your time. Man,
Speaker 1: I know you know, um you gotta go. But it's
Speaker 1: cool talking to my brother. Man. It's cool talking to you.
Speaker 1: It's cool seeing what you the great things you're doing.
Speaker 1: I like mess with you because uh that's what we do.
Speaker 1: But we do. Man, It's I'm I appreciate you, man,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on the show, man and uh
Speaker 1: like even from Afar and uh, you know, I just
Speaker 1: want to give you your flowers Man for what you
Speaker 1: continue to do. And um um, I think that boxes
Speaker 1: over things, not people. So I love that what you
Speaker 1: keep expanding yourself as a man. Um As I see
Speaker 1: you on this podcast, as I see you on TV,
Speaker 1: you know you have not been limited by you know,
Speaker 1: your background and your platform or being a football player.
Speaker 1: To see you be a great father and a husband,
Speaker 1: it um, it's a Spartan is encouraging to me every day.
Speaker 1: So so thank you, man, Appreciate you. Man. He's one
Speaker 1: of those things. Man. You know, when I left Carolina
Speaker 1: come to Baltimore, I was wondering if I fit in,
Speaker 1: you know, not just in the I felt like I
Speaker 1: fit in the locker room, but I was wondering what
Speaker 1: I fit in just as a person. And I enjoyed
Speaker 1: my time in Carolina's thirteen years. But one of the
Speaker 1: things that was really cool and unique about Baltimore, and
Speaker 1: we both agree, is Baltimore cultivates this this brotherhood that
Speaker 1: it's not a lot of places. And I know Panther
Speaker 1: fans don't want to hear that, but it's not a
Speaker 1: lot of places. Justin has been on seven teams. He's
Speaker 1: seen a lot of people trying to play football. But Baltimore,
Speaker 1: even if they don't have success, they understand. They make
Speaker 1: you make some lifetime friends. And I there's some guys
Speaker 1: man that locker room when lose a draw. There's some
Speaker 1: dudes that like I would go down to dark Alley with.
Speaker 1: And I know everybody says that about me, but there's
Speaker 1: some dudes. And Justin one of those guys. Here you know,
Speaker 1: here strike you in the name of the Lord. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he's one of those guys.
Speaker 1: When you talk about having your back, it's not having
Speaker 1: your back to being a fistfight. It's having your back
Speaker 1: that somebody you can rely on. And I'm gonna tell you,
Speaker 1: not all football players are reliable. Not all of them
Speaker 1: are tough, not all of them are smart, not all
Speaker 1: of them are dumb, not all of them are shorter,
Speaker 1: out of shape, whatever the case may be. But Justin
Speaker 1: is one of those guys. He's reliable on and off
Speaker 1: the field. And I appreciate you. Man, oh man, you
Speaker 1: are a unique person. You are well worth it, you
Speaker 1: are competent, and most of all, you're lovable. I'm Steve
Speaker 1: Smith Senior, I'm Gerald Little John and this is cut
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