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Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 2: Wins in the Trenches. Welcome to another edition of Around

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Speaker 2: the NFL. My name is Dan Hansis. I come to

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Speaker 2: you from a virtual room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal. We are remote because California had some scary

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Speaker 2: weather over the weekend and we were told to bunker up.

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Speaker 2: Even though it's sunny out right now, we are bunkered in.

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Speaker 1: It was a wild weekend. You know. We had a

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Speaker 1: little hurricane, little tropical storm, little earthquake. I was out

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Speaker 1: in the garage and felt everything swaying there for a second.

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Speaker 1: That was kind of fun. Walker was out here, and

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Speaker 1: I have a live studio audience here for the show,

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Speaker 1: so you know, I'm gonna keep my mouth cleaner than

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Speaker 1: the Raiders fans who are sitting behind me at the

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Speaker 1: Rams Raiders preseason game on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I gotta say, though this storm, now, look, I didn't

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Speaker 3: scan the whole city. I don't know if other places

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Speaker 3: were more affected than where I am. But you know,

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Speaker 3: watch some local news yesterday to find out what Hillary

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Speaker 3: was up to, and they're asked, they're acting like al

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Speaker 3: Qaeda is coming to the takeover Los Angeles, and I thought.

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Speaker 3: The storm sort of came and went, and it was like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, have you ever lived in another part

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Speaker 3: zero pop and it was, you know, rough day. Rough

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Speaker 3: day depends where you were.

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Speaker 1: If you were in the mountains, you got ten inches

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Speaker 1: and you got crazy flooding. We had flooding here, but

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Speaker 1: it wasn't any I think it La is so massive.

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Speaker 1: It's almost silly to call La like one city. It

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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. You should mention that about the game you

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Speaker 2: were at, because my weekend was annoying. I drove down

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Speaker 2: the hurricane obviously was bearing down on San Diego, so

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Speaker 2: good timing on that. There was like four bros, like

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Speaker 2: thirty one year old bros sitting right behind us, all

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Speaker 2: just like and one guy just like going nuts with

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Speaker 2: the F bomb, and just like, do I have to

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Speaker 2: Do I have to turn around and do the thing

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Speaker 2: you can't be saying that. You can't be just screaming

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Speaker 2: out f bombs. There's just so many idiots in the world.

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Speaker 2: And then I was in San Diego. I was at

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Speaker 2: the Padres game, and I can only imagine so Daniel Jeremiah,

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Speaker 2: you know, move the sticks, longtime enemy of the show.

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Speaker 2: He and what can only to me seem like an

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Speaker 2: effort to pin every unsolved murder in greater San Diego

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Speaker 2: on the old Zeusser offers up three tickets, beautiful seats

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Speaker 2: to this Padres game to me two sons, like can

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Speaker 2: you can you get a load of this guy? And

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Speaker 2: like whatever he's trying to do, I'm back in La

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Speaker 2: deal with it. You didn't get me. I get a

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Speaker 2: hotel to stay the night. I get back from the

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Speaker 2: And now I have to decide, as the dad, am

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Speaker 2: want to take a bad beat at the Marguerita Aville

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Speaker 2: want to get banged on that three point fifty that

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Speaker 2: I paid for this hotel room. So I left in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the night, and I got banged in

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Speaker 2: a big spot. And then you're in the weird spot

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Speaker 2: of like you kind of want the storm to hit hard.

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Speaker 2: So it makes sense that you you didn't leave the

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Speaker 2: just a very uh, you know, it was a size

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, you're pulled in many directions there, Dan, But I

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Speaker 3: think that you know, your your kids see the effort

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Speaker 3: you put in a big effort to get to the game.

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Speaker 3: Hillary said, no, Hillary got in the way of some

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Speaker 2: A lot of people were concerned about Hillary. That's how

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Speaker 3: It feels like psychological warfare on a deeper level than

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Speaker 1: Well he is, you know, the wholesome mesass, a god

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Speaker 1: around at the Raiders fans either. These these were not gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: I think that you would have wanted to. One did

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Speaker 1: my daughter's sweatshirt. But other than that, they were freely

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Speaker 1: saying whatever they wanted. And after the game, the kids

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Speaker 1: were just like, I like it much better when we

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Speaker 1: go to the games against the Chargers. Their fans are

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Speaker 2: They don't exist all right. So last week, coming out

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Speaker 2: of the first round full round of preseasons game games,

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Speaker 2: we had who Popped and Who flopped? And Mark, bless

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Speaker 2: his heart, always behind the scenes saying how could we

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Speaker 2: come up with names and things that make take the

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Speaker 2: show to the next level. He came up with a banger.

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Speaker 2: So an honor of Mark Sessler, Today's rundown of preseason

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Speaker 2: week two is who Popped and Who pooped? Congratulations Mark,

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Speaker 2: and thank you for your help.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I like to contribute, you know, in multiple ways.

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Speaker 3: To the show, and that was something that came to

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Speaker 3: me while driving to work to SOFI when you suggested

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Speaker 3: the initial title we had from a week ago. Thought,

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna make a little little, uh little adjustment

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Speaker 3: to that and bring the maturity level of the show

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Speaker 3: back to where it needs to be.

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Speaker 1: It's good eleven years in that we're not just coasting,

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Speaker 1: We're not just resting on our lures. We're always trying

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Speaker 1: to push, push it further, push the envelope.

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Speaker 2: GC GC, all right, So what we're gonna do is, uh,

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Speaker 2: we all even with all the distractions of Tropical Storm Hillary,

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Speaker 2: whatever Daniel Jeremiah was up to behind the scenes, and

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Speaker 2: the fact that we couldn't go into the office today

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Speaker 2: because the sunlight was too glaring on our windshields, we

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Speaker 2: did study the games that were played this week, not

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Speaker 2: because the games matter, because, let me remind you, they

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Speaker 2: do not. And almost impossibly, the games were worse this

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Speaker 2: week than last week. I shudder to think how bad

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Speaker 2: looking forward to it to see how much I hate it.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm not allowed to say this, but I

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Speaker 2: my life. We're gonna talk about this because this is

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Speaker 2: At the end of my robe Sessler, this is.

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Speaker 1: The exact week you say that every year. Everyone feels

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Speaker 1: that way. It is the week where it's like, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well, it used to be like such a sort of

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Speaker 3: a code to what teams did week to week in

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Speaker 3: the preseason. I think what we're seeing now is that

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Speaker 3: guess these coaches are gonna go and take their own

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Speaker 3: There isn't even that typical Week three where all the

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Speaker 1: No, you need to go into those joint practice reports

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Speaker 1: winners and losers right up. So that's all we got.

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Speaker 2: That's the new thing or the newish thing. So and

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Speaker 2: doesn't play in the second preseason game because of the

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Speaker 2: joint practice explanation, which just drives me crazy because you

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Speaker 2: feel like that guy more than any other QB just

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Speaker 2: about entering the league as a starter in week one,

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Speaker 2: should be on the field and getting reps all three

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Speaker 2: don't matter. The coaches and teams are telling us that.

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Speaker 2: I'll say no more, let's talk about it. Let's get

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Speaker 2: into it. Greg, give me some enthusiasm, give me some pop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I like these because you're right, it's try. We'll

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Speaker 1: try to hit as many as we can. I got.

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Speaker 1: I still scraped out eighty eight nuggets on this week's preseason.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of them aren't from the preseason.

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Speaker 1: They're from news, they're from the week and whatnot. But

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Speaker 1: let's start with a double banger in Denver, just because

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting to see Gavonte Williams back

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Speaker 1: He's out there. He got seven touches in a brief

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. That like Sean Payton was saying, it was

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Speaker 1: So that is something where you get eyes on a

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Speaker 1: when watching Devonte Williams, I just think for fantasy and

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Speaker 1: just for life, like I don't necessarily expect him to

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Speaker 1: better and it would make total sense if he's better

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Speaker 2: This is no longer a trope alert with Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: because now we really see it. The man who's called

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Speaker 2: the sack of Potatoes in December, he looks lighter, he

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Speaker 2: looks like it's twenty thirteen. Not saying he's gonna be

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Speaker 2: anybody in the league was more humbled and is coming

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Speaker 2: into the season with more to prove. It's Wilson, and

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Speaker 2: you know Mark, He's a maniac in terms of how

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Speaker 2: life revolves around ball. Like, are we kind of maybe

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Speaker 2: is it time to start buying into the Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: renaissance season.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to buy into it at all yet,

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Speaker 3: but I will say this like quiet and husher tones

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Speaker 3: on his demise, just because I think that the addition

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Speaker 3: of Sean Payton is massive. You know. I think when

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Speaker 3: you come back from the summer and you see that

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Speaker 3: these players' bodies have been transformed, I think running backs,

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Speaker 3: you can see it. You're right up on that. On

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Speaker 3: that scramble with Wilson, he just looked out of it

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Speaker 3: last year and so arrow up. But I mean, I

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Speaker 3: get too excited, because I think what we saw last

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Speaker 3: year was an absolute collapse of an athlete, and I

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Speaker 3: don't really trust the rebound situation in those situations. Some

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Speaker 3: I also, like I thought brock Purty looked pretty good,

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Speaker 3: that game, I don't even know if Trey Lance even

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Speaker 2: finally time to fade the big dog, you know, entering

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Speaker 2: Remember TYJ Spears third round pick out of Greg.

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Speaker 2: Tank Bigsby and it looks like it might be a

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Speaker 2: think Travis Atien is somebody who could still take his

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him, and I always keep in mind,

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Speaker 3: They're really deep at running back because I think people

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Speaker 2: Uh, somebody who pooped Mark Well.

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Speaker 3: I've been waiting to see the felt No, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: like a fifteen play drive. They didn't score because it

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Speaker 3: There's no NFC team I'm more interested in right now.

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Speaker 1: M Yeah. I didn't need to see Bejon break four

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Speaker 2: I missed out on Bijon by one pick in my

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Speaker 3: Suremiah, Well, that's on.

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess you had the top pick then, so

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Speaker 2: That one hurt. But yeah, that's it's gonna be fun

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Speaker 2: Like exciting times. How about Greg pop poop? What do

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Speaker 1: I hate to put poop on?

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Speaker 1: Stroud's played I think five drives and they have They've

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Speaker 2: has a little bit more around him. I really worry

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Speaker 2: about Bryce Young being in a tough situation and this

435
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Speaker 2: season because he doesn't really have any anything proven around

436
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Speaker 2: him in terms of weapons. And then an offensive line

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Speaker 2: that's a work in progress. It's it's so far not

438
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Speaker 2: so good, but it's preseason. Same thing with I just

439
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Speaker 2: said about defense. You got to give the offense the

440
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Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt that they're going to be showing

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Speaker 2: up differently come week one. But there are some red

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Speaker 2: flags here for sure.

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Speaker 1: It's a little hesitant just holding the ball, just like,

444
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Speaker 1: not not reacting quick yet.

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Speaker 2: Looks like a rookie in the second preseason game.

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Speaker 1: That's what happens.

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Speaker 2: Let's see. Let's go with oh my favorite, the most

448
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Speaker 2: preseason summary thing I've ever read in the in the

449
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Speaker 2: follow up to one of these games, let's talk about

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Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins who played the Texans. This is from

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Speaker 2: Marcel Luis Jacquez of ESPN. I'll read it in full.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps perhaps the biggest relief for fans and coaches came

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Speaker 2: when Tongue of Iloa took a hit from Texans defensive

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Speaker 2: tackle Sheldon Rankings after an incomplete pass, possibly tapping into

455
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Speaker 2: his off season jiu jitsu training, Tago taga Iloa rotated

456
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Speaker 2: his body on the way to the ground to avoid

457
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Speaker 2: hitting his head on the turf. It's been a big

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Speaker 2: where yet week one.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine why that's tiresome to you.

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Speaker 1: This has been all month. There was like a practice

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Speaker 1: where he did like a roll off of a sack,

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Speaker 1: like he sort of went into like a flip or something,

463
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Speaker 1: and people were going nuts about the h the jiu jitsu. Hey, whatever,

464
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Speaker 1: keeps to a healthy I'm happy.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just saying the speed of the game

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Speaker 2: is probably gonna overwhelm this. Uh trading camp notebook lead.

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Speaker 2: That's all. That's all I'm gonna say. I'm my concern

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Speaker 2: there is that this probably in real speed games won't matter.

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Speaker 2: So I guess I would say that I'm pooping on

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Speaker 2: that is something to worry about.

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Speaker 1: I'll uh, I'll put three a pick on his very

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Speaker 1: first throw, so like, uh, this season last year ended

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Speaker 1: on a pick and then you know, bad one.

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Speaker 2: Mark, I'll tee you up on this one. The Steelers

475
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 2: popped again on offense. We can get juiced up about

476
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Speaker 2: this if we choose. It's against the Bills, who, by

477
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Speaker 2: the way, saw their ten game preseason winning streak snapped.

478
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Speaker 2: Nailed it, so you have Kenny Pickett looking good with

479
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Speaker 2: the first team offense, Jalen Warren looking hot, and you

480
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: know Nase Harris is officially I think I noticed another

481
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Speaker 2: guy who I think is going to be in some

482
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Speaker 2: danger of losing substantial touches, another former first round pick.

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Speaker 2: Keep an eye on that situation, because the Steelers seem

484
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Speaker 2: like they're ready to really rotate in and and make

485
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Speaker 2: that a different situation. So Picket's still looking good, the

486
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Speaker 2: backfield looking good, Pittsburgh's offense two weeks in a row

487
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Speaker 2: looking good. Not a real defense, not real scheming, not

488
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Speaker 2: a real game, but it's worth noting well.

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Speaker 3: I will say this though, I mean I like it

490
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Speaker 3: when a team has these like glowing practice reports, and

491
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Speaker 3: specifically Kenny Pickett. That's been the case since back to

492
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Speaker 3: OTA's and it's like, do you really see Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 3: as a quarterback that like physically a physical specimen is

494
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Speaker 3: gonna make this giant leap And it was like, I

495
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Speaker 3: don't know. That sort of sounded like he probably is

496
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Speaker 3: who he is, but there's these like symbols and signs

497
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Speaker 3: that suggest he is and he has grown, and like

498
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Speaker 3: it went from practices to two very clean games, and

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Speaker 3: the Bills had their starters in them defense for a

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Speaker 3: big chunk of that first half, and Pittsburgh just dominated them.

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Speaker 3: At one point, Tom was just like, let's get the

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Speaker 3: starters out of here. That's two weeks in a row

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Speaker 3: where they're making my multiple, you know, double digit, potentially

504
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Speaker 3: twelve win prediction for this season look more and more solidified.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're August champs. I don't think anyone's

506
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Speaker 1: gotten more offseason slash preseason hype than Pick and then

507
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Speaker 1: for him to realize it, and in people who are

508
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: usually a little crusty the Steelers beat writers and stuff

509
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Speaker 1: who usually don't want to I don't feel like they're

510
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Speaker 1: cheerleaders there. If anything, they're kind of hard on them.

511
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Speaker 1: And they've just been saying since the first day of camp,

512
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Speaker 1: like he has been incredible, and then he does in

513
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Speaker 1: the preseason. I'm falling for it a little bit, and

514
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Speaker 1: I do like me some Jalen Warren as a as

515
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Speaker 1: a third down back. Like his numbers, he was an

516
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Speaker 1: undrafted guy a year ago, but his like numbers, some

517
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Speaker 1: of his advanced metrics says when he was on the field,

518
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Speaker 1: he was one of the most effective third down guys

519
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Speaker 1: in the league. You've learned some things from the Steelers

520
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: this preseason, like they're not starting progerc Jones their first

521
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: round pick, and then this kid, it happened again. Someone

522
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Speaker 1: let the Steelers get like a great edge rusher in

523
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Speaker 1: the middle rounds if this always freaking happens. Nick Herbig,

524
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Speaker 1: he's in my mix for Defensive Player of the Year

525
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: for the preseason. He's got to be in the mix.

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Speaker 1: Two and a half sacks and Forrest Fumble. It's a

527
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Speaker 1: big honor. But Nick Herbig has been lighting it up

528
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Speaker 1: and he's gonna be it. They have, like Kim Highsmith,

529
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Speaker 1: they have what, they got a lot. They're just good upfront, Mark,

530
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: what do you got?

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Speaker 2: You got some poop?

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Speaker 3: I Well, I would say that the Arizona Cardinals represent

533
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: a giant pile of excrement after what we saw this week.

534
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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. I get it's the Cardinals, but I

535
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Speaker 3: really my takeaway though, was that the Chiefs. I think

536
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Speaker 3: Andy Reid has been trying to find a way and

537
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Speaker 3: you know, this is just what he's you know, this

538
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: is an annual thing. But to kind of flip the

539
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Speaker 3: switch on saying goodbye to last year coming in and

540
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Speaker 3: having everyone just kind of dial into their intensity. And

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Speaker 3: I'm just watching this like they other starters in for

542
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Speaker 3: a bunch of time, and their offensive line is utterly

543
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 3: dominated Arizona. They're just so dominant. And they had eighteen

544
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Speaker 3: different players caught a pass in this game. Rashi Rice,

545
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Speaker 3: their rookie who they traded up into round two to get,

546
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Speaker 3: had eight catches for ninety six yards. Mahomes completed a

547
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Speaker 3: pass to nine different teammates. And it's like, I'm not

548
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 3: trying to break news here, but like Shane, it may

549
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 3: be a better backup than blaying Gabbert. Like I mean,

550
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: this is like, this is sort of what we'd expect

551
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: from the Chiefs ro at a little bit, but to

552
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Speaker 3: see how dominant they are and how organized they are,

553
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Speaker 3: and it just seems like there's an intensity level that

554
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: suggests to me that it's like there's gonna be no

555
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 3: hangover from the Super Bowl. I think that Reid has

556
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Speaker 3: found a way to get to the heart of this

557
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 3: club and they just looked utterly, insanely, wildly better than

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Just like you seg the poop right back into a pop.

560
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a verse. You know you can't have one

561
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Speaker 3: without the other.

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Speaker 1: Here much about the Cardinals there, And if the takeaway

563
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Speaker 1: is the Chiefs are better than the Cardinals.

564
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Speaker 3: Well no, I think the Chiefs are better than every

565
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: anyone and the Cardinal like it's confirmation that the Cardinals

566
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Speaker 3: looked to me about as floating as law and lost.

567
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Speaker 3: I mean, as you could have expected.

568
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Speaker 2: You came up with this the segment name when your

569
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: first poop comes and we just say, oh, the Cardinals suck.

570
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: But how about the Chiefs. People want it, People want

571
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: some real excrement from the mark I give time around.

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Speaker 1: Well, I do think they got caught. I somehow sometimes

573
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Speaker 1: see in the preseason, like if one team is a

574
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Speaker 1: disappointment one week, especially a good team like the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: they always come out the next week, especially if their

576
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Speaker 1: starters play when we used to play starters in the preseason,

577
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Speaker 1: then they come out extra fired up the next week.

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Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals were in a tough spot there,

579
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: but they lost Dennis Gardock, who's one of the few

580
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Speaker 1: decent air rushers. They lost Marco Wilson, who's supposedly their

581
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: number one cornerback in this game injury wise, and Colt McCoy,

582
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Speaker 1: who I guess is the starter had three drives and

583
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Speaker 1: I think only one of them had a first down.

584
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 1: I don't they didn't score any points. And listening to

585
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: the people there in the Cardinals website like Clayton Tune,

586
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: our guy, the fifth round rookie, I wouldn't say he's

587
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: lit it up in the preseason. He's just like, okay,

588
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: some of these late round rookies have looked great, but

589
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: he's looked okay. He's ran for a little bit. He

590
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: scored some points and McCoy didn't. It seems like they

591
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: haven't even given the job to Colt McCoy yet. They're

592
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: kind of leaving that open still. That Clayton Tune could

593
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: be a Week one starter against the Commandos.

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00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: Colt McCoy's gonna get you too many wins, and you're

595
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: trying to get the first overall picks, so he's too

596
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: dangerous to put in there.

597
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: Let's take a break right here and come back with

598
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: more pops and poops. All right, we are bad, Greg,

599
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: Where do you want to go? Where? What directs you

600
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 2: want to go? Positive? Negative? Do it?

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Speaker 1: Buddy, Let's go positive.

602
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: Let's go with kind of a ballroom or the bathroom.

603
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: Where are we going.

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Speaker 1: We're making it positive. Lots of positive things happen there. Okay,

605
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: it's important this one. You guys could take it and

606
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: run with it too, because it's more than just one story.

607
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: But it's it's the backup quarterback situations going on, but

608
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: especially these late round rookies. But I'm just going to

609
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: combine them all together because it's kind of weird. Aid

610
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: and O'Connell. I watched them in person pitch a perfect game.

611
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: It was eight o' O'Connell versus Stetson Bennett. That was

612
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, a ko in the third round by Aidan O'Connell.

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Speaker 1: He is your preseason MVP through two weeks. Tanner mc key,

614
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Speaker 1: he's got the radio station's buzzing in Philadelphia, looking way

615
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: better than Marcus Mariota. That's a six round pick. Doria

616
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Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson, We've talked about him. He's been good. Malik

617
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Speaker 1: Willis appears to have beat out Uh he's not a rookie,

618
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Speaker 1: but he appears to beat out a rookie. Will Levis.

619
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Speaker 1: We got this kid from Shepherd University, Dan that's a

620
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: D two school. His name is Tyson Badgin and he's

621
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Speaker 1: been lighting it up in the preseason. All these these

622
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: rookie late round rookies have been the story of the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it means. They're playing against third stringers,

624
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Speaker 1: they're playing with third stringers, but they might be winning

625
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: these backup jobs against some veterans. I think Brian Hoyer's

626
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: career might end because of Aidan O'Connell. I think Mariota

627
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: might be the third stringer if Hurts actually got hurt.

628
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Speaker 1: I don't think they'll cut him. But like, these are

629
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Speaker 1: things happening, and it's kind of fun to watch.

630
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Speaker 2: The Malik Willis thing is interesting just because he was

631
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: he was so bad and limited play last year that

632
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: they were bringing a guy off the street late in

633
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: the season with everything on the line for Tennessee last January,

634
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: will Levis did injure himself in the joint practices leading

635
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: into that game, which led to Malik getting all that

636
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: playing time. But obviously it's setting up well for him

637
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: to be the number two. And you know, whenever you're

638
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: backing up a guy, it's getting up there in age

639
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: and it's a bad offensive line. Potentially in Tennessee, we

640
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: might see these guys or if the season doesn't go well,

641
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: and like Zeuser hits on that under which I'm not

642
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: feeling good about from Thursday's episode, You're probably gonna want

643
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: to get these guys in the lineup in the second

644
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: half of the season to get a look at what

645
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: you have. So I think that's a backup quarterback situation

646
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: that's more intriguing to me than others. You were at

647
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: the Rams game, Greg, you said, so I got we're

648
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: gonna head to the bathroom the Rams defense. I know,

649
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald's not in the mix, but over two hundred

650
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: yards on the ground by the Chargers week and then

651
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: Jimmy g and the Raiders roll over them early in

652
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 2: this game. They put up thirty four points. You know,

653
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: it's a reminder that Donald and this team have little

654
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: hope unless some of these guys become guys. Did you

655
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: see anybody that kind of jumped out at you for

656
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: the Rams?

657
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I like this kid, Trey Tomlinson because he's

658
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: Ladanian Tomlinson's nephew, and he's wearing a number six, and

659
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: my son Walker's got a number six Rams jersey too.

660
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: But when we're talking about like sixth round, you know,

661
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: five seven cornerbacks that are popping. It's not great, and

662
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: they were playing a lot of guys who will contribute

663
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: for them. They are a mystery. But on defense they

664
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: are as underpowered other than Donald as any team in

665
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: the league.

666
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: I mean, and I was at the Chargers Rams game,

667
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: and I mean that was the first test for this defense,

668
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: this Rams defense, and they up like two hundred yards

669
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: rushing and had no answers for what was coming at them.

670
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: So it's like, it's a really nice story to have

671
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: all these young players, but in you know, in real life,

672
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: the variance is massive because it's very possible that eight

673
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: or nine of them are like a year away from

674
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: being serviceable defenders.

675
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: And since since I mentioned him, I'll go with a pop.

676
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: I feel like expectations are so low for Jimmy Garoppolo

677
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: that maybe he'll end up surprising people and the Raiders

678
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: will be more proficient, at least on offense. Also, Josh McDaniels,

679
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: I feel like his stock is pretty low in general

680
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: entering this league, so there's just a general idea that

681
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: it's not going to work, and certainly that's within the

682
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: range of outcomes here. But a Garoppolo did look good

683
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: in the Driva he was in and if he stays healthy,

684
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: remember he does have DeVante Adams. The idea is that

685
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs is going to report at some point, even

686
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: if it's sitting out the entire preseason in training camp,

687
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: and be back on the field. Uh, Michael Mayer, they

688
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: go and get that tight end, so maybe he contributes

689
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: in year one. Are Jacobe Meyers who you know a

690
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: lot of Patriots fans which was still up in New England.

691
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: He's there now? Is it possible? And again not reading

692
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: too much into this game, but it did look nice

693
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: while they were all together that we're sleeping on the

694
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: Raiders being proficient and maybe even frisky on offense.

695
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 3: Well, okay, because I think I think I get annoyed

696
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: when I see these lists. Were like Jimmy G is

697
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: just sort of casually shoved down as like the thirtieth

698
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: best quarterback in the league.

699
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: Like the veras Jimmy What. Let me just say, I

700
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: just did that fantasy draft in a two quarterback league

701
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: and a ten team league, and Jimmy G doesn't even

702
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 2: get drafted in my league. Just to back up your point,

703
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: go on there, people are just like out on.

704
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: Him come up as a third. Don't you want another

705
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: quarterback on your bench?

706
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 2: Or you can't do that three max three max.

707
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: I think part of it is, you know, it's like, oh,

708
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: you're in Shanahan's system, so anything that you do is

709
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: going to get downgraded.

710
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

711
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 3: You know, he's one playoff, he's been to a Super Bowl.

712
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 3: Like when he's good, he's really good. I thought he

713
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: looked sharp in that opening drive. So I'm with you

714
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 3: in the sense that, like the I I write off

715
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: the Raiders as a team with with severe confidence, But

716
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: I don't. I think that, like Jimmy g is not

717
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 3: the reason, and that is that does peak my annoyance

718
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: when I hear that. I'll I'll tell you something though,

719
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 3: because like I think one thing about this preseason, it's

720
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: like I want to see I wanted to see more

721
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: of Jordan Love and like, uh, I'm kind of impressed

722
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: with with what he's done over two weeks. You know,

723
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: there are some moments where he's kind of like I

724
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: think of anything, he's had some tough moments where he's

725
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: had to like work his way out of it and

726
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: put together a good drive, and he did that. He

727
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 3: did it against New England. I know that game was,

728
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: you know, canceled early because of the situation with the

729
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: Isaiah Bolden. He's out of the hospital. That's great to know.

730
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: But Jordan Love had a couple of lasers in that game.

731
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: And I just look at this whole offense because it's like,

732
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: we don't know what the Packers are gonna look like

733
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: this year. It could go south and maybe these players

734
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: are too young, but like Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs, Jayden

735
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: Reely looks good to me. Luke Musgrave is already essentially

736
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: a starter at tight end and Love has had these

737
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: moments where I'm like, I think sitting for a while

738
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: like he did, did have some positive impact on him.

739
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: Now he's got to play, and it's like I kind

740
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 3: of could just see this offense growing more formidable as

741
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 3: the year goes along. And I mean, I don't have

742
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: a problem with the idea of Green Bay winning ten games.

743
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: If Love can play the guitars, you'd say, yeah.

744
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: I agree, I'm with you. I don't have strong takes

745
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: on Jordan Love yet, Yeah, but I would say, what

746
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 2: would Lee how would we rank? Like, what grade would

747
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: we give Jordan Love? Greg based on camp reports and

748
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: what we've seen on the field so far. B. Yeah,

749
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: that sounds right. That's why I feel I almost feel

750
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: muted in how to feel because you're kind of seeing

751
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: both sides reporting in both ends, and it's like one

752
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: of those guys I really want to see when he's

753
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: the man Capital T Capitol LM week one.

754
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: But no, I don't have a problem with that. I

755
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: think I'm sort of saying that the overall Green Bay offense,

756
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of young players here, but I

757
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: kind of just excited more than I've been about the

758
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 3: Packers on a long They were the same thing for

759
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 3: so long, and it's like, this is interesting.

760
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: To get rid of the whole fire to Rogers dynasty.

761
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: I always annoyed you. Yes, I'm with you though, because

762
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: their preseason. Think I would give their offense though, like

763
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: an A minus or A for this preseason in camp

764
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: because you don't really know if Musgrave and Jadeen Reed

765
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: Jdane Reed is a rookie who's gonna be their starting

766
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: slot receiver. You don't really know how they're gonna look

767
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: in their first camp in preseason, they went out and

768
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: earned those jobs and they've looked quite good. So they're rookies,

769
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: so we don't know how it's gonna translate. In the preseason.

770
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: Dobbs is making plays love. We've seen him in a

771
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: bunch of preseasons. He makes really bad plays and he

772
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: makes awesome throws. To me, he's gonna be a very

773
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: entertaining player. Like his big time throw rate will be

774
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: through the roof. His turnover worthy play rate, I have

775
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: a feeling will be through the roof. And so it's

776
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: gonna just be like huge ups and downs. But I

777
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: think they've had a nice, a nice little month Unlike like,

778
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: let's say, like I do kind of pay attention to

779
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: who's getting hyping out, Like I kind of expected justin

780
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: fields to have more hype this preseason. I'm not giving

781
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: them a pooped or anything, but it's just like second

782
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: year and in this offense, they built all this stuff

783
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: around them, and that the vibe you get from the

784
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: Bears is incremental growth. If that it hasn't been a

785
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett big big jump at least in terms of camp.

786
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: Pipe cycling back raiders six and a half over under. Hmmm,

787
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 2: that's in a good spot.

788
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 1: You know What's interesting? Throughout camp, they've been saying their

789
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: defense has really been a surprise, like surprisingly good. They

790
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: really think the defense is better. It's been kind of

791
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: beating up the offense. And then when they went to

792
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: have those joint practices with the Rams, that continued. They

793
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: beat up the Rams offense, but the offense was starting

794
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: to get better. Maybe the Rams just stink, but it

795
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: was a good week I think for the rout.

796
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: Just like I would do anything to pivot out of

797
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: my Titans under. I just I wish I could go

798
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: back and and change time Packers at seven and a half. Hmm, Well,

799
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: I want to be banging the over there.

800
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: I want to get my fifth choice into the show.

801
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: I know that after the fact you guys beeped it out.

802
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: I just want to let you guys know all the

803
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: all the greg heads out there who really want this

804
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 1: for the money, you know that they could potentially get

805
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: into in our season preview episode, we could circle back

806
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: because we can tell you what we what we really

807
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: like a team that we like. Just see just see.

808
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: Sure that seems it seems fair unfair? Was you trying

809
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: to cram in another over under?

810
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: You asked, I didn't say anything. I left the time,

811
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: and you were like you got more time to fill.

812
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: You got more time to fill.

813
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 2: I didn't say to give another over under. I just said,

814
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: if you wanted to have anything else to say, not,

815
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: I mean, just you kind of get take it to

816
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: Planet Greg and we're not gonna We're not getting on

817
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: the spaceship and going to Planet Greg with you every time, Gregy.

818
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: I I have regrets. I wish I had made that

819
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: my my fourth pick too. I'm gonna go poop. Let's

820
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: send some some poop. What are we doing here with

821
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: the poop? I don't know.

822
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: Let's uh take it to the Sessler department. I like it, Mark,

823
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: not the sanitis.

824
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 1: I like it. I just don't know how to phrase

825
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: it or introduce it. I'm gonna give this for Todd

826
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: Bowles's press conferences talking about these quarterback battles. It's over.

827
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 1: He picked Baker Mayfield, but he won't say it. Thank you.

828
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 2: I was. I have this written down, Todd Earth to Todd.

829
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: We don't need to be you know, we don't need

830
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: to be tricky about this one. It's not as if

831
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: this idea that Todd Bowles can go and not play

832
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield in this game this weekend, even after the

833
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: third string quarterback hurts his neck, and then after the game,

834
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: all the reporters want is just general confirmation, and you

835
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: can't give us that. We don't have any more time

836
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 2: for these games.

837
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Speaker 5: Todd, just just be real about it. Do you really think,

838
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 5: Todd that the Vikings are on the edges of their

839
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 5: seats worried about how they're gonna prepare for two qbs

840
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 5: ahead of week one because they can't discern where Todd

841
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 5: is gonna go on this enough.

842
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: Also, wasn't Kyle Trass played twenty one for forty one

843
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: in this game? You don't see that too often. Obviously

844
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: it's Baker.

845
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: Garnet, Arder.

846
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't even Understan. It's like

847
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: a nineteen ninety six, you know, dueling with the media.

848
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: I'm with you, it's tiresome. Fast forward fourteen days, please earth.

849
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they made their choice, and Trass played like pretty

850
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: well in that game. But yeah, when Wolford went out

851
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: and they and he even said, he's like, I didn't

852
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: want to risk Baker behind the second string offensive life.

853
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: We didn't mind risking Kyle Trast. There was one other

854
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: nugget there that I put in the in the article

855
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: that I think has been under the raider, Like, I

856
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: don't know if Ryan Jensen, who was an All Pro

857
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: a few years ago Pro Bowl with Brady, Like I

858
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: don't know if he's I know he's not gonna play

859
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: Week one. I I'm wondering if he's gonna play football again.

860
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: He like rushed back to play in that Brady playoff game.

861
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: He tore his ACL MCL and dislocated his knee, then

862
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: rushed back to play eighty snaps in that doomed playoff game.

863
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: And now just the vibes, the vibes coming out, like

864
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if you hear this announcement that

865
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: he's retiring or he's missing half the season, and they've

866
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: got a lot of offensive line issues. They move Tristan

867
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: Wurf's to the left side, that's supposedly not going great.

868
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: They've got rookies, so it's a tough situation there. We

869
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: talked about Russell Gage, like I feel, you know, out

870
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: for the season.

871
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: I think I hope you're wrong about that, because if

872
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: that's a failure of the team, if he somehow aggravated

873
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: or put himself in a worse spot by playing and

874
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: again a terrible Bucks team that wasn't even over five

875
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: hundred in the playoffs, and credit to him as a

876
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: warrior that wanted to protect Brady and what looked it

877
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 2: was his final game. But I hope he didn't further

878
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 2: hurt himself or a mess himself up. He's thirty two

879
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 2: years old. I know these guys age in different ways

880
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: on the line, but you know he should have good

881
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 2: football ahead of him. But yeah, that's scary.

882
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: I've got two quick pops happened in the same game.

883
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: The more I see from Jackson Smith and Jigba, just like, Okay,

884
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: this guy's going to be extremely productive. From the first

885
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: quarter of the first game, he looks the part. He

886
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 3: just looks. You don't like a rookie to be completely comfortable.

887
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: And you know they played the Cowboys and Jalen Tolbert

888
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: has been getting tons of buzz at camp from Mike

889
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: McCarthy on down.

890
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 4: Uh.

891
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: You know they they were short at wide receiver a

892
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: year ago, and like someone like this could be a

893
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: big help, A like he just he's an exciting player.

894
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: So I think the two of the best like offensive

895
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 3: skill position teams in the league, like Seattle looks for

896
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: real to me and Dallas, I'm I struggled to I'm

897
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: not putting in the NFC title game ever in my life.

898
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: But it's hard to figure out who they're like, who

899
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 3: has more talent than them right now?

900
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: The JSN, he was an interesting one. You know, we

901
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: just did the fantasy extravaganza last week because he does

902
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: look like he's for real. But Pete Carroll loves to

903
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: run the football. He's got a lot of guys to

904
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: do it. He's got a very locked and loaded one

905
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: to two at wide receiver. I think JSN can have

906
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: an impact in a team way, but will he get

907
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: enough touches to be really kind of jumping off the

908
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: page in year one? That would be my only hesitation

909
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: from a fantasy standpoint, or even like in a bullish

910
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: on JSN standpoint.

911
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: Right, and you mentioned Tolbert. We saw him catch a

912
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: nice pass. I remember on Stefan Gilmour Well contested that

913
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: day we were at camp. And he's kind of someone

914
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: who the preseason's for in training camps for a very

915
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: disappointing rookie season from him, but has come out and

916
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: looked like a different player. And now watching him when

917
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: on the outside, You think, Okay, the Cowboys have at

918
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: least three or four wide receivers. He might end up

919
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: taking some time from Michael Gallup if he can't play

920
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: on the outside, but they're pretty loaded there at that position.

921
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: I should have I should have connected this one boys

922
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: when we were talking about the Cardinals. But I read

923
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 2: that Isaiah Simmons, former first round pick who came into

924
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: the league with did he did you bring him up?

925
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: Gregory no came into the league with just a ton

926
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: of buzz. I remember Cynthia coming on our show and

927
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: pumping them up. And it was always a little weird

928
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: because it was like, oh, yeah, he's a linebacker. I

929
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe he's on the edge, Maybe maybe he's this,

930
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: maybe he's that. And then true to form, like Isaiah

931
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: Simmons has never really found a home and now they're

932
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 2: trying to make him a safety in Arizona and they're

933
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: trying to find a way to make this work. And

934
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: this is not something I was studying closely personally, but

935
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 2: a report from ESPN that he really struggled against Kansas

936
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: City in that role. So it's just like, for this

937
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: is such a transition role, transition year for Arizona, they're

938
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: trying to find this might be the last gasp of

939
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: trying to make the Isaiah Simmons situation work. Could he

940
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 2: be somebody that you know, I'm sure he'll make the team, obviously,

941
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: but could he Is there another team that if this

942
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: safety thing doesn't work, would they trade him for a

943
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: low draft pick? I don't know, We'll see.

944
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: Doesn't it feel like the kind of story where like

945
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 3: he does end up on another team and tells essentially

946
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 3: the horror story that's occurred here over the past couple

947
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: of years in Arizona, Because like you'll talk about negligence

948
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: with like a Ryan Jensen, He's had how many coaches

949
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: Simmons and how many times have they moved him around

950
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: and tried different things with Part of it is like

951
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 3: he's not he hasn't been dominant editing those things. But

952
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: it's like he was always drafted as someone that's the

953
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 3: right coach would need to find the right way to

954
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: use him. And now it just feels desperate. And I

955
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: could see him going somewhere else and going right back

956
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: to linebacker with a better coaching staff and some consistency,

957
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 3: and maybe we get a different version of him.

958
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 2: And this one is neither a pop nor a poop.

959
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: So whatever is in the middle, it's like in the

960
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 2: hallway between the ballroom and the bathroom. McKay Beckton has

961
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: finally entered the starting lineup conversation for the Jets. He

962
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: saw some significant snaps against the Bucks in the preseason game.

963
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: He got out of it, okay, twenty five snaps in

964
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: his debut at right tackle, and it looks like he's

965
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: gonna get some first team reps. I mean, it's just

966
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: it's alarming that a team in the Jets that really

967
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: is unsettled at offensive line, that we're this deep into

968
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: training camp in the preseason and Beckden is only now

969
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: being kind of introduced to the possibility of being a starter.

970
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: I think it tells a story. I also wonder, why

971
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: do I keep on reading about Beckton like he'll be

972
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: able to play a full round of snaps and with

973
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: the first team when his body is right. I mean,

974
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 2: at what point does the body get right? He hasn't

975
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: played in two years and had the surgery before last

976
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: season really even got going. But he is gonna, I think,

977
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: in a best case scenario, play really well the rest

978
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: of the summer and he will be there right tackle,

979
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 2: and then you cross your fingers that Dwayne Brown gets

980
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 2: healthy on the left side for a Jets offensive line

981
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 2: that is by far the biggest question mark for this team.

982
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 2: And read into it, It's okay to read into it.

983
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers does not play in the preseason. He's open

984
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: that it doesn't matter. He's with a zeuser on that one,

985
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: and yet he will be seeing snaps against the Giants

986
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: next week. Why that's the Jets telling you they're noivous

987
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 2: about this line. They feel like they need to get

988
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: some live reps ahead of Week one, So hopefully Rogers

989
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: gets out of that safe and sound. But the fact

990
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: that he's playing, I think has everything to do with

991
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: not him throwing the football around, but feeling comfortable in

992
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: the offensive line getting more reps together. Is they try

993
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 2: to square this away before a very tough beginning of

994
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 2: the season.

995
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't imagine if you're Joe Douglas and

996
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: you've gone this far and acquired to all these players

997
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 3: that you aren't on the phone line NonStop looking around

998
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: the league for proven tackles. I just I can see

999
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 3: a trade going down at some point. They need depth,

1000
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: no matter what I want to bring up one other

1001
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: tackle who is a bit of a surprise. His name

1002
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 3: is Big Thanos. He's six foot eight, three hundred and

1003
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: seventy five pounds. A fourth round pick of the Cleveland Browns.

1004
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 3: He's been on the field for one hundred and eleven

1005
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 3: pass blocking snaps and not allowed a sack and has

1006
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 3: been pretty eye poppingly effective. I don't know you draft

1007
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 3: that player thinking that's a project. The size was there,

1008
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: and like he looks like he can play, and I

1009
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 3: kind of think that, you know, they get into a jam.

1010
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: He could start games for him down the stretch, Like

1011
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 3: that's the count. Get a fourth gat nickname. That's a

1012
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: great nickname. Yeah, Big Fanos.

1013
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: Circularly back on Rogers Cook, I did just want to

1014
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: throw a quote out from Rogers last week something and

1015
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: then he was talking about the offensive line. Some things

1016
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: are out of my control. Some things I have input

1017
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: on who's playing left and right tackle. I don't have

1018
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: imput input on At this point, I don't get concerned

1019
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: about things I don't have a huge draw on. Now

1020
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: that might change. At some point I might say I

1021
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: need the five who are going to be in there

1022
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: to be in there. With me for a solid week,

1023
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: which I think are reasonable things all to say. I

1024
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: feel like if in a previous generation or if he

1025
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: was in Green Bay and said those things, it actually

1026
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: might have gotten some heat of like, oh, there is

1027
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers trying to say he should be making the

1028
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: personnel decisions, and like, I actually applaud the New York

1029
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: media for not blowing those out. But I think I

1030
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: think it makes sense, like there hasn't been progress there

1031
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: and at some point he's gonna be like, look, guys,

1032
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: pick pick the guys. Let's go pick the guys. This

1033
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: might be the week.

1034
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: I think I hear you. Who else got something?

1035
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: Uh, let's let's just say some news to me. This

1036
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: is a pop because I've been on the Jdavian Clowney

1037
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: bandwagon for too long. He's on the Ravens. It's where,

1038
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: It's where he should be. That's all. It's they needed

1039
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: and he needed them. They're very thinn at cornerback. They're

1040
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: very thin in terms of their edge rusher production, you know,

1041
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: and just some young players and they'll probably squeeze a

1042
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: good season out of him because that's what they do

1043
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: with like mid thirties.

1044
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 2: Watch him finally get that ten sex season for the

1045
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: Ravens at age thirty one or whatever.

1046
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you basically quit on last team.

1047
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was not a great not a great look.

1048
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: But hopefully if you're the Ravens they could use him.

1049
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: It would be him a job oh away, Now that's

1050
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 1: maybe that's that's an okay group.

1051
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: All right.

1052
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw in one one where I guess the

1053
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: pop here would be Juwan Johnson, who's looked great. The

1054
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: Saints tit and a lot of hype dominated joint practices

1055
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: reportedly look good in the preseason. But that brings up

1056
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: the tight end position there, which it was just a

1057
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: strange story. It was hard to wrap your mind around

1058
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,479
Speaker 1: this one, but we should note it. It's newsworthy, which

1059
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: is that Jimmy Graham was was seen acting erradically at

1060
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: the resort they were staying at, and the police recalled

1061
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: and he was initially arrested, and then he was taken

1062
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: to the hospital, and the Saints released the statement that

1063
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: he had a medical condition, a Caesar seizure. And I

1064
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: believe that was known about Graham a little bit before that.

1065
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: He had had some issues with seizures and and they

1066
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: didn't really fill in the blanks of how this was

1067
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: all connected. Uh, but it's not great, and they're not

1068
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: saying anything about his football future. He obviously didn't play

1069
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: in the preseason game. But I don't know. You wish

1070
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: you wish the best for Jimmy Graham, and you're you're

1071
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 1: a little anxious if he was playing football.

1072
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: I think we were all like kind of stunned or

1073
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: at least surprised when Jimmy Graham resurfaced as a football player,

1074
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: back with a team where he really became a star.

1075
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, I would imagine, just from a pure football standpoint,

1076
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: he's not going to be on this team and maybe

1077
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: we're going to get some update on that in the

1078
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 2: next few days. And I hope he's okay, because that

1079
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 2: that sounds like, at least over the weekend he was

1080
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 2: very not okay. You know what else is not okay?

1081
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: Can we can you pull that up? Eric Roberts, how's

1082
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: the thumb? By the way, Eric Roberts, Before we get

1083
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: to that, check out his life little health his thumb

1084
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: now after a week yeah, one week later, after nearly

1085
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 2: or not even nearly, chopping off the tip of his

1086
00:52:54,840 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: thumb while cutting damn potatoes. It's okay yet, I'm are

1087
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: we doing? Does it hurt?

1088
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 4: It doesn't hurt that much anymore now, it's just kind

1089
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 4: of living with less of a thumb, so it no,

1090
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 4: I mean, the pain's pretty much subsided.

1091
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: You know.

1092
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 4: It's walking around without a bandage on it now. So

1093
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 4: that's fun to see. I see people kind of like

1094
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 4: catch a glimpse of it, and then I see their

1095
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 4: eyes following my hand around and let's try to have

1096
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 4: a nub over here. But it's all right.

1097
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 3: So that doctor told you that, you know, the thumb

1098
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 3: would grow back, which was sort of news to us

1099
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: from a ground level. What what is the growth? What

1100
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 3: is the what direction does it seem to be going in?

1101
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 4: It's a little this is the this is the decent

1102
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 4: side of it. This is not too gross to see

1103
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 4: the other sides.

1104
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: And then can you hold up your other thumb just

1105
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: so people can see what it looks like a normal thumb?

1106
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: Check it out on YouTube. You can subscribe to the

1107
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: around the NFL.

1108
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 4: The other sides a little little little gooey and more heally,

1109
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 4: but this is just like you know a little gumby

1110
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 4: look to it, you know, gum be the I think some.

1111
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 2: People would say, just spin it in a positive way

1112
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: to pop more than poop. It looks kind of metal,

1113
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: like it looks like you're kind of a bad dude,

1114
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: and they don't need to know the story, the backstory.

1115
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 2: You could give your own backstory and I'll and I'll

1116
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: spend it even further more pop more, ballroom less bathroom.

1117
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: A guy like Brian Baldinger turned his wonky ass finger

1118
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: into a part of his personality and like a hook,

1119
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: like there's something here. I think Eric, if you, if

1120
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: you from a creative standpoint in terms of whether it's

1121
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: a thumbs up you give in every photo, or there's

1122
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: a way to take this and and and take these

1123
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: lemons and makes the wall.

1124
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 4: I have started sending out emojis instead of the actual

1125
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 4: thumbs up e mooji. I've created my own little screenshot

1126
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 4: of one with half of a thumb missing. So I

1127
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 4: have kind of cycling in a joke, a Rea cream

1128
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 4: joke that I don't know. We'll see how long goes.

1129
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 3: You're you're a masterful self brander. And I think all

1130
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 3: this happened for a reason.

1131
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, our previous producer, Grave Digger, sometimes his

1132
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: cell branding would get on Sessler's radar. Where are you

1133
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: okay with this mark where Eric is trying to diversify

1134
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: his portfolio.

1135
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 3: I'm I'm over any tension I felt over what Justin

1136
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: was aiming to do back then, and I don't feel

1137
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 3: that tension with Eric. I think that, you know, if anything,

1138
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 3: if you were to pick ten people out of a

1139
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 3: lineup to have their their thumbs half chopped off, there'd

1140
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 3: be a freak out level with a big chunk of

1141
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 3: those people. I thought Eric kind of took it in

1142
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 3: stride and was back at work the next day, and

1143
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: it's like, sort of is a heroic, you know, turn

1144
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: of events for Eric.

1145
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: I'll take that.

1146
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 3: Not annoying.

1147
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 2: I mean, miss two days, but like we're not counting.

1148
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 4: You know, I was half sentenced and whatever.

1149
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: Hey can you can you throw it up? It's great

1150
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 2: Eric that you're going on. I can't wait to see

1151
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: how that thing grows back. I want a science fiction film.

1152
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, Eric, let's see flash it up there.

1153
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: This pooped. This is poop. This is way worse than

1154
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 2: I even thought it would be. Gosh darn Teddy Bridgewater

1155
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: the Forever Number five. He played his first game is

1156
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: number fifty and it couldn't look any worse. It actually

1157
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: was worse than I thought.

1158
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: Look at this.

1159
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 6: Check out the YouTube show Greg get the plug in.

1160
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 6: He looks insane wearing number fifty as a quarterback. He

1161
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 6: took a snap from center and it looked like a

1162
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 6: fan had won a contest to play a snap in

1163
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 6: the NFL.

1164
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 2: I am horrified. But with the Lions have done here

1165
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: because a running back on the roster has his number five.

1166
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 2: It should have never gotten to this point. Teddy Bridgewater

1167
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: should never wear number fifty again. It should already be over,

1168
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 2: and yet it's not. The nightmare continued.

1169
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: I love it. I mean Teddy in that Honolulu blue

1170
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: with the two gloves in Honolulu blue and the fifty.

1171
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: We've never seen anything like it. Don't now, don't don't

1172
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: worry about his performance.

1173
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 2: The field not too hot.

1174
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: It's the preseason. It's the preseason.

1175
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: I did notice we did not discuss what Teddy actually

1176
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 3: did as a football player, which was now well, thankfully

1177
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 3: your hype from last week up.

1178
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: If if he was worried about Nate Sudfield, Nate Stutfeld,

1179
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: I think is thrown like four interceptions and like sixteen

1180
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: passes in the preseason, so.

1181
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: Sety five of eleven, thirty four yards in the first quarter. Fumble.

1182
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: Huh no, biggie. Okay, guys, you guys want to throw

1183
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: out a couple more, I'll let you. I'll let you

1184
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: get it out. Go ahead, anything else in your little notebooks.

1185
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: The one that I wanted to get make sure we

1186
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: got in there was was a poop because I think

1187
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: most people, uh most teams have gotten through this month

1188
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: pretty unscathed. I think the Dolphins have had maybe one

1189
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,479
Speaker 1: of the worst months, maybe the worst month of any team.

1190
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is what started it. I know that was

1191
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: technically July. Toront Armstead. It's like, Okay, he doesn't have

1192
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: a serious injury, but we're back on this cycle of

1193
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: is he going to play this week? Is he not

1194
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: entering another season like that? We don't know if he'll

1195
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: be ready for Week one. Devin Atching look has looked

1196
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: great in the preseason, suffered a shoulder injury. Don't know

1197
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: if that's serious. And then I saw an interesting report

1198
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: on si dot com that Ogba Manuel Agba, who they

1199
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: gave a lot of money, who just has not look

1200
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: comfortable standing up in vic Fangio's scheme in that maybe

1201
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: they might even look around if someone wanted to give

1202
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: a trade a draft pick for a Manuagua, which would

1203
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: be surprising. He's very highly paid pick. I just feel

1204
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: like it's been has been a great month.

1205
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 2: But did you see the jiu jitsu stuff?

1206
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true too. A lot of a lot of

1207
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: injuries in the secondary. I think they've signed five defensive

1208
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: backs this month, and they might have to sign a

1209
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: six just because they've had so many injuries.

1210
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: What's that Dolphins over under at Eric?

1211
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: I think it's nine and a half.

1212
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nine and a half.

1213
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: It's like a skyscraper looking up at a skyscraper.

1214
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 3: I mean, you're loving, You're loving any drama attached to

1215
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 3: that team. We understand that. I love you, Dolphins fans.

1216
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 3: Let's have some fun this year. Let's get the rivalry

1217
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 3: back Jets Dolphins. Let's make it count, Let's make it matter.

1218
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: Wait, can I get one more? Can I give one more? Pop?

1219
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: Day?

1220
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: Almost forgot this is a big one. It's our friend

1221
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: Henry Hodson. He's popping. He's the father of the International

1222
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: Player Program. He's the only person you know he He's

1223
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: out in Africa, he's in Nigeria, he's all over Europe

1224
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: picking out these players. It's all because of Henry Hodson,

1225
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: you remember.

1226
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: Seasonally scouting them. I love it.

1227
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes he goes to these things. Actually, oc Uman,

1228
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: you are truly does that, which is pretty crazy, but okay.

1229
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: Cjoy made national news last week. The guy on the

1230
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: Chargers who got a sack in his first ever football

1231
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: game had never even played a football game before. Nigerian

1232
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: defensive end David Agoha, who just started playing football a

1233
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: year ago, recorded a sack on Saturday, and then Texans

1234
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: defensive end Outadeo Oda Lee, also an IPP player, has

1235
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: two sacks this pre season. Out of the eight players

1236
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: selected this year, six are from Nigeria. A lot of

1237
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: them are pass rushers, defensive linemen, and they're they're starting

1238
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: to pop. And these are guys who didn't even play

1239
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: football last year. Nice little job by the IPP in

1240
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: the preseason.

1241
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 3: It was always very American that we just assumed that

1242
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 3: only people from our country could play football, when like

1243
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 3: the span of the human body and what it looks

1244
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 3: like all over the world suggests that there would be

1245
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 3: football players as there are in other sports. Beyond American borders.

1246
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: It's good.

1247
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: I don't like that take.

1248
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: Why.

1249
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just like pointing to it as

1250
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: American hubris. I don't get the vibe that we never

1251
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: thought anyone could play football anywhere. Oh whenever practice it

1252
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: it was like a sport that was being played. I mean,

1253
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: so that's what Henry does. That's what we do with

1254
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 2: our UK reach and the surrounding territories, even beyond, in

1255
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 2: places like Germany and Australia and Ireland, which is not

1256
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 2: part of the UK. We're just doing We're doing the job.

1257
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: We're carrying that water mark.

1258
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 3: I think we're a little late to the to the

1259
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 3: to the whole effort. I mean, we could have started

1260
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 3: this a while ago. I'm not trying to I'm not

1261
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 3: trying to go anti American with my take. I just

1262
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 3: think it's like we comfortably shrouded the sport for so

1263
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 3: long until people like Henry came around, until our show

1264
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 3: can him around, until television changed. Yeah, I can do

1265
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 3: that song and dance just like Greg. You know, props

1266
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: someone up from across the company will do a favor

1267
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 3: for me at some point later. I get how it works.

1268
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: It's dark friend, what's wrong with you?

1269
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: The best thing, Greg is I wouldn't say I came

1270
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 2: at Mark there, but I just disagree with his take.

1271
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 2: But then you get you get the knife right in

1272
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: the spinal column.

1273
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: I know, whenever Mark gets a little annoyed, it comes

1274
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: out how much he clearly does not like me.

1275
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 3: It's not true at all.

1276
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: Damn what was that, Jeff Albrick, Damn, that is not true.

1277
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: I have that undred dark Mark does like you. Greg.

1278
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 3: I just lash out, and you know, everyone gets a

1279
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 3: little bit of a helping.

1280
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: I know, but when we're not talking about some like

1281
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: VP in a quarter office that we're talking about Henry

1282
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: and we're talking about football, you know, come on.

1283
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 3: I love Henry. But that wasn't in question. He already

1284
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 3: knows I love him.

1285
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: He thought there is a sense Mark, and I don't

1286
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: totally disagree that you're doing a little back scratching here

1287
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Speaker 2: for Henry to get. I think maybe an extra, maybe

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Speaker 2: a suite when it's time for us to go to

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Speaker 2: London again. Maybe Oh weird, Greg got the upgrade at

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Speaker 2: the hotel.

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Speaker 1: Henry helps us out, as you guys know, regardless of

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Speaker 1: what we say. I think these are cool stories regardless

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the International Pathway Program. If you are an overseas listener,

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01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: this is right up your alley and is a huge

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Speaker 2: part of the NFL's attempts to grow the game. Do

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Speaker 2: some research, check it out, look it up. It's cool,

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Speaker 2: all right, that's it. Mark anything else.

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Speaker 3: But the only thing I'd say is that I think

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01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 3: it's the Giants were swatted down in the over under

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01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 3: contest we did. I think in general, people look at

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01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 3: what they did a year ago is slightly fraudulent, beyond

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01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 3: like a great coaching job, and they're expecting them to

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01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 3: come crashing back down to earth. They looked great on offense.

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01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones was totally on. Darren Waller was used over

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01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 3: and over. I just think that the Darren Waller story

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01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 3: has gone about as positively as you could.

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Speaker 2: Hope.

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Speaker 3: We'll see, you know, TVD on his health. But that

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01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 3: would be a big upgrade for that offense. And they

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01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 3: got about eight hundred wide receivers are sifting through. It

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01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 3: reminds me just a little bit of when they you know,

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01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 3: in Buffalo, the way they built that offense up quickly,

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01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 3: that the Giants have attacked all resources and if you get,

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01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 3: you know, the better version of Daniel Jones. I'm tired

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01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 3: of everyone, you know, just talking about one New York team.

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Speaker 3: There's another New York team that actually went to the

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Speaker 3: playoffs a year ago.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair, and I think I kind of

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01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: had it in my notes and was going to sit

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Speaker 2: on it. And maybe that's part of the problem here, Sessler,

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01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: because Daniel Jones signs that huge contract, and you know,

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01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: it was met with some sideways glances and light mocking

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01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: in general. And I think the general assumption here is

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01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 2: that the Giants will I don't want to general assumption,

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01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: but I think there's more than a few people that

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Speaker 2: follow the sport closely that think the Giants may live

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01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: to regret giving Jones that type of investment. But he

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01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: did take a big leap under dable in one year

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01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: in year one. Is if he does it in year two,

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01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be out of this realm. I don't think

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01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: a lot of you don't hear a lot of people saying, yeah,

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01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: Jones is gonna become a star this year. The Giants

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01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 2: certainly think that's possible based on how they paid him,

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01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 2: and maybe we should give him a little bit more

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01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: of a chance to continue to progress will be if

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01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: I'm a Giants fan, I'm I'm excited. I'm feeling good

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01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: about it. I'm feeling the Darren Waller thing. As far

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01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 2: as the summer has gone, it couldn't have gone better.

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01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: Like the worst case scenarios, you trade for this guy

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01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: who's been hurt constantly for two years and he pulls

1342
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 2: his hamstring in the first week of training camp and

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01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 2: it becomes one of those waiting games. No, he's healthy,

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01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 2: he's been effective. Okay, bring some juice to the g man.

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Speaker 2: I like it. Who even? I have one other thing

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01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: this year, that's the big announcement horn. But it's a

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01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 2: big announcement tease coming up later this week. We're gonna

1348
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 2: share our plans around the NFL, expanding our universe into

1349
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 2: the NFL plus realm. Okay, it's gonna be fun. It's exciting.

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01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 2: We're pumped about doing it. We successfully had conversations with

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01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: shadowy League figures about giving us runway and man hours

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01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 2: to make this fun and exciting, this new chapter for

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01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 2: our show, and we're gonna tell you all about it

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01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: on Thursday's show. How about that.

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Speaker 1: It's a professional tease. We weren't doing that in year one.

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Speaker 1: A veteran caster.

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Speaker 2: Now, my final thought on preseason football. Tonight, the Washington

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01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 2: DC area landover the Baltimore Ravens. They attempt to extend

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01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 2: their godlike preseason winning streak to a god damn quarter

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01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 2: hundred games. If they beat the Commanders twenty five consecutive

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01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 2: wins in the preseason. It is no surprise that the

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01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:36,439
Speaker 2: game is on ESPN nationally televised, because it's that big.

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01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 2: It matters. I just spent an hour telling you how

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01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 2: the preseason doesn't matter. This matters. This is the Magio

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01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,959
Speaker 2: fifty six. This is the type of record that people

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01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 2: will talk about in one hundred years. Can they get

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01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 2: to twenty five? That's a big number, GREGI, it's.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm thinking about all day today. By

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01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: the time people hear this, maybe they'll the result. Maybe

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01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: we'll have an emergency pod if down goes Frasier, you know,

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01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: if it happened, down goes Tyson. I guess in this

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01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: case would be a better example. You know, if the

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01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: upset happens, you guys gotta be ready. If the Commanders

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Speaker 1: pull off the unthinkable.

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Speaker 3: They won't lose the Ravens. If I'm them, though, I

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01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 3: take this so seriously because look at Buffalo has already

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01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 3: been asked the next second closest competitor. They're starting from

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01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 3: scratch all over again. I start Lamar Jackson and every

1379
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 3: first stringer for four quarters and devastate break Washington's conscious.

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Speaker 1: Just wait, I've got another streak that's almost as crazy

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01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: their consciousness. You know when the last time the Minnesota

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01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: Vikings have won a preseason game, Guys, I'll give you

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Speaker 1: a hint. It wasn't this decade. They've lost eleven straight.

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Speaker 1: You throw in the pandemic year. They have not won

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01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: a preseason game this decade. That's a travesty. Let's get

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Speaker 1: it going, Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: That's a poop. I get that. But you can lose.

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01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: It's easy to lose games essentially on purpose in the preseason.

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Speaker 2: To win twenty four straight without really trying, that is remarkable.

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Speaker 2: And I agree. The fact that it's on ESPN, the

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01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 2: fact that it's so stupid, it's so dumb, and yet

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01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh does care, and it's a big round number

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Speaker 2: twenty five. There is zero chance. I mean, I won't

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01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 2: say anything else. If you want to those desert folk.

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01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: There is zero chance that the Ravens lose this game.

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Speaker 2: And don't lay any wood. You lay out, they will

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01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 2: chop that wood. The Ravens are gonna roll over the Commanders,

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Speaker 2: and if they don't on Wednesday, I will apologize to you,

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01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:52,839
Speaker 2: but Raven's gonna chop wood. I'll leave it at that. Indeed,

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Speaker 2: let's get out of here. Oh shout out to El

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01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 2: Segundo Little League. They are in the Little League World

1402
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,560
Speaker 2: Series for the first time in town history. Little the

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 2: Elsegundo is on fire about this and they are playing

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01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: again today Monday. Hopefully they continue to roll. They beat

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01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 2: you know who they beat up. They beat Ohio, those

1406
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 2: chumps where the Westling Brothers hail from.

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01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 3: Well, and we were, you know, we're on a tech

1408
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 3: thread with the Westling brothers, and you know, you know,

1409
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 3: Nick Westling especially has taken shots left it right at

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01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 3: California Culture and just described the whole thing as like

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01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 3: a probably a bunch of soft kids that have never

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01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 3: even seen, you know, a cloudy day. And then they go, well,

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01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 3: what are you doing, Ohio? You just got taken out

1414
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 3: by Elsa Gundos Gundo.

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01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you should know that Ohio got sent home.

1416
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 2: Their next game, they're out. They go owned double elimination.

1417
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:48,759
Speaker 2: So uh, maybe the Westlings can watch the working class

1418
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 2: El Segundo little League grind their way and then to

1419
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 2: stick it to Rosenthal in company to take out Mother

1420
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 2: Japan in the finals. Let's do it. Let's show the world.

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01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm rooting El Segundo. There, I'm with you.

1422
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Walker's in like an adjacent little league,

1423
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: like let's go Soko. I'm a Socao guy after eleven years.

1424
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 2: There you go. I could guess who your wife's rooting

1425
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 2: for in such a game as well.

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01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 1: I mean probably not. Elsegundo is Japan even they don't

1427
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: get a bye to the finals. They got to make

1428
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: it there too, but that would be good if something.

1429
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,440
Speaker 2: Tells me they will. They're very good at baseball Japanese.

1430
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Speaker 2: That's it. Good show, good up, good talk. We'll be

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01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 2: back Wednesday as a group Tuesday Hard Knocks podcast with

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01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 2: me and Colleen Wolf recapping episode three, So be there

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01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 2: for that and until then, eat the call.