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Speaker 1: Here comes resident GM Jim Bowden on FT and it

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Speaker 1: is let's call it JB manager movement Monday. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just making stuff up on the fly here, but

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Speaker 1: great to have you on. And let's start with Bob

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Speaker 1: Melvin being fired by Buster Posey. Do you think it

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Speaker 1: was the right move and what do you think's next

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Speaker 1: for the Giants?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it was the right move.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, you know, Bob Melvin basically had the

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Speaker 3: Giants as a five hundred team last year, five hundred

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Speaker 3: team again this year. Buster Posey in the offseason went

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Speaker 3: out and signed Willia Domas, gave him the big money,

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Speaker 3: and Damas ended up hitting the thirty homers.

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Speaker 2: Giants got off to a good start. Buster went out.

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Speaker 3: There and got Rafael Devers in June to continue to

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Speaker 3: try to improve the offense here, and the team kind

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Speaker 3: of sputtered it at the end of the day. I

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Speaker 3: think Buster's sitting up there looking at his team saying,

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Speaker 3: if the Reds made the playoffs, we could have made

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. And so I think there's that aspect of it.

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Speaker 3: Although look, Bob Melvin's had a great career. He was

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Speaker 3: executive the year in both leagues. Did a great job

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Speaker 3: with the Athletics when he was there. So look, I

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Speaker 3: understand his long career. I'm not taking anything away from him.

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Speaker 3: But here's the most important part of that firing. Right

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Speaker 3: when you head of baseball operations, you want to have

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Speaker 3: a manager in that seat that you get along with,

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Speaker 3: that you respect, that is on the same page with you,

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Speaker 3: and you'd like to have your guy in there if

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Speaker 3: it works out. Now, sometimes you inherit a manager and

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Speaker 3: it works and it's fine and you can go on

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Speaker 3: and win. That happens quite a bit as well. But

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Speaker 3: I think if you're Buster posey, you want your guy

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Speaker 3: in there. I think that's the case. And so you know,

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Speaker 3: I think for him, he's got a couple of options.

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Speaker 3: Number One, he could see if Bruce Bouchie wants to

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Speaker 3: come back. A lot of rumors around San Francisco that

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Speaker 3: that's a possibility, But he.

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Speaker 2: Is seventy years old.

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Speaker 3: So does Buster want to do that and just try

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Speaker 3: to go for it in the next couple of years,

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Speaker 3: or the other idea is Buster ends up higher a

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Speaker 3: younger manager that can be the long term solution with

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Speaker 3: him building a team together, which is probably the right

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Speaker 3: decision at this point, just because I think the Dodgers

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Speaker 3: and Padres their window of winning is going to continue

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Speaker 3: the next couple of years, and I think the Giants

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Speaker 3: are a few years away of being where they want

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Speaker 3: to get to. But the firing I think was kind

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Speaker 3: of expected, at least from my perspective.

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Speaker 4: Did bou Mel do bad enough? Had Buster been the

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Speaker 4: one hiring him, and let's say this was his second

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Speaker 4: year of a three year contract and Buster I brought

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Speaker 4: him in? Did he do bad enough with this roster

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Speaker 4: the way I was constructed to deserve to be fired.

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Speaker 4: I get it what you're saying. You bring in your

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Speaker 4: own guy, he wasn't your guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't think so. I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: this team was around a five hundred team. I think

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Speaker 3: is what you're trying.

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Speaker 2: To get at. But I think there's more to it

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Speaker 2: than that.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you're sitting in the seat, it's not

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Speaker 3: just about wins and losses, right, It's about you know,

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Speaker 3: you're getting the most out of the players that you have,

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Speaker 3: but you're developing the guys you need to develop. And

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Speaker 3: then the other thing is, you know, when you're sitting

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Speaker 3: up there in the box, Unfortunately for a manager. GMS

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Speaker 3: are absolutely watching every single pitch, every single decision that

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Speaker 3: a manager makes, first guessing everything that they do. It's

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Speaker 3: difficult to sit in that seat. So I think it's

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Speaker 3: sometimes it's more important than that. And the other thing

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Speaker 3: is different manager styles work with different teams. You know,

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Speaker 3: I don't spend enough time in the Giants clubhouse to

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Speaker 3: really get the vibe if Bob was the right guy

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Speaker 3: for that particular team. But you know, there are some

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Speaker 3: teams that need a different voice to to reach the

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 3: Was just the reason here, but I think if you're

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Speaker 3: running baseball ops, make sure you have the guy in

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Speaker 3: that seat that you want in that seat, because at

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Speaker 3: the end of the day, you're both gonna win or

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Speaker 3: you're both gonna fail together. And if you're not on

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Speaker 3: the same page, if you're not watching and seeing the

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Speaker 3: game and watching the development the same way, it can.

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Speaker 2: Be frustrating and difficult.

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Speaker 3: So look, a lot of times managers get fired mostly

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Speaker 3: because of the players. I think we all get that.

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Speaker 3: To answer your question, clearly, was this about a five

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Speaker 3: hundred team?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Do I think another manager would have won more games,

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Speaker 3: maybe two or three at the most, but that's about it.

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Speaker 4: Two or three gets you in the playoffs, but that's

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Speaker 4: not gonna be my next question. My next question is

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Speaker 4: you look at a guy like Buster Posey, he was

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Speaker 4: a superstar from the jump, can he, and this is

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Speaker 4: just your opinion, work with somebody, a younger manager like

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Speaker 4: you said, to build this up who's not a superstar,

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Speaker 4: because if that's the case, you almost have to go

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Speaker 4: to somebody who's managed before. You almost have to go

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Speaker 4: to somebody who's got that pedigree of winning at other places.

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Speaker 4: And then you come in and the expectation of winning

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Speaker 4: is on Buster Posey putting that down to his manager,

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Speaker 4: who then puts it down to the players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Eric, great points all the way across the board. And

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Speaker 3: so I would say for Buster it would probably be

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Speaker 3: just because of his inexperience in the front office. Do

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Speaker 3: I think it would be beneficial to bring in a

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Speaker 3: manager that has won before? I mean I would say yes,

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Speaker 3: only because with my young experience when I had the job,

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Speaker 3: I needed to go get someone that had won. I

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Speaker 3: hired Davey Johnson, who had won ninety games five different times.

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Speaker 3: He came in and together we finished in first place

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Speaker 3: two years in a row and made it to the LCS.

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Speaker 2: I go back and I look at that higher.

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Speaker 3: That was huge, not just for the Reds, but it

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Speaker 3: was huge for me personally at the time. Do I

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Speaker 3: think it would benefit Buster to bring in Bruce Bochi,

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Speaker 3: who he knows, who he won three World championships with. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: for the short term, I think it would be great.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, I think I trust that Buster

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Speaker 3: Posey knows this game so well, has learned it so

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Speaker 3: well that if he wanted to bring in an inexperienced

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Speaker 5: Hey, Jim, is there another move that should be made

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Speaker 5: somewhere else? This is the first one we see Don

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Speaker 5: Kelly get extended, which is the most Pirates move of

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Speaker 5: all time, and get the guy we know. We don't

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Speaker 5: need to go outside the organization and listen, Don Kelly

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Speaker 5: did a great job while he was there for the

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Speaker 5: second half, and yes they improved. But is there another

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Speaker 5: organization that needs to make a move out there that

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Speaker 5: you can see besides the Giants that Tory Lavello had

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Speaker 5: some interesting comments the other day about what he does,

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Speaker 5: and I was saying he should be the one to

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Speaker 5: let go, But it's just a different way managers are

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Speaker 5: chosen now. So is there a team out there you

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Speaker 5: think that could make a move and say, hey, this

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Speaker 5: team could help this move could help us be a

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Speaker 5: better team next year.

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Speaker 3: I think the Baltimore Orioles could make a change, and

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Speaker 3: I think it could be significant. I think they've done

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Speaker 3: things a certain way, and I think for Michaelias to

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Speaker 3: hire a GM under him and to get the right

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Speaker 3: manager to run that organization, I think is huge. Someone

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Speaker 3: love with their own players, I think would be helpful.

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Speaker 3: So I would say the Oriels. You know, I don't

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Speaker 3: know what Brian Snitker is going to do in Atlanta,

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Speaker 3: but I think we're all kind of watching and seeing

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Speaker 3: if he's going to retire. Same thing with Bruce Bochi

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Speaker 3: in Texas, and I think if he does retire or

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Speaker 3: does go back to San Francisco, I think Skip Schumacher

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Speaker 3: will end up taking that position. But I would say

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Speaker 3: those were the biggest teams that I'm kind of watching

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Speaker 4: All the playoff teams just pop champagne, so they got

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Speaker 4: a bunch of crap in their locker that smells like champagne.

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Speaker 4: Is there any manager that smells like champagne that goes

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Speaker 4: into the GM's office and gets fired of the managers

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Speaker 4: that are there right now if something goes haywire and

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Speaker 4: wrong here, is there anybody in your mind that could

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Speaker 4: be fired?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so, not this particular year. I don't

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Speaker 3: think there's anyone out there. And we don't have Georgia

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I think the media in the big markets will ask

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Speaker 3: for their managers to be fired if they don't win,

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Speaker 3: if they don't win the World Series, and that's just normal.

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Speaker 3: But I personally don't believe that any of the playoff

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Speaker 2: I don't think any of those managers will end up

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Speaker 2: So JB.

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Speaker 1: I listened to your Front Office show, as you know

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Speaker 1: on Sirius every week, and you had John Mozzelock on

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Speaker 1: and he's stepping down.

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Speaker 2: He's had a great run with the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Check the track record and He's done a lot with

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Speaker 1: that team for a long period of time. I know

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Speaker 1: it wasn't as good lately. Heim Bloom takes over. The

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Speaker 1: part that I thought stood out to me was that

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Speaker 1: he mentioned he's going to take a little time and

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Speaker 1: then we'll see what happens. I thought that he was

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Speaker 1: semi retiring, but from the conversation, it sounds like he's

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Speaker 1: open to stepping into another front office role, whether it

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Speaker 1: be next year or in the future. Did you get

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Speaker 1: that inclination or know any info about that?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, Scott.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I think this was pre planned because

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals were going to move on, and I think

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Speaker 3: the DeWitt family was very respectful because of what you

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Speaker 3: just talked about. John Moseylac won a world championship in

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Speaker 3: twenty eleven. He finished with a winning record in thirteen

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Speaker 3: So I am with you Eric one hundred percent on

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Speaker 3: really don't. I don't think it proves the point of

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Speaker 1: The other thing, if we're really just picking at things,

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Speaker 1: So if I were commissioner for a day, I would

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So for me, Scott, this one is pretty simple, right.

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Speaker 3: You know, you've got Soto, you live in, you got Alonzo,

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Speaker 2: And then they.

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Speaker 3: Started off really hot and you got the June, you

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Speaker 2: They're just gonna win. That's what they did.

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Speaker 3: And so I kept looking at the Mets the whole year,

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Speaker 2: Kind of look at this as, yeah, it was expected.

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Speaker 3: And then when you take a deep breath today and

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Speaker 2: The Mets finished at four to one.

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Speaker 2: There you go. That's it, Goodbye, time to go home.

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Speaker 2: That's it. You got to build the rotation.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: The good news is Nolan McLain has shown he could

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Speaker 3: it doesn't always work.

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Speaker 2: Right. The Yankees went and signed Max Freed. It worked.

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Speaker 2: Said, you know what, it's just better than the Braves.

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I mean probably makes a run at Shane

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have to go back to it. Look,

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Speaker 2: But you will see.

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Speaker 3: David Stearns having to adjust because Steve Cohen. We saw

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Speaker 2: That's pretty embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: So that means everyone has to adjust, and you have

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Speaker 2: He agreed to a one year deal.

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Speaker 3: He opted out today or said he was going to

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Speaker 3: stop it. Okay, he's going to get his five year

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Speaker 3: All he does is play one hundred and sixty two

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Speaker 2: Every year.

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Speaker 3: He hits around forty home runs every single year. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a franchise player that you need to

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Speaker 1: there too, which they know it's short term in long

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Speaker 1: term value. Last one here, we gotta finish with the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds getting their way into October Baseball. Last time

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Speaker 1: the Reds won a postseason series, JB.

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Speaker 2: Was Yeah, nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 3: Five, we get it to the NLCS. I was actually

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Speaker 3: the GM back then. And by the way, they're not

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Speaker 3: going to win a series here either, So I'll be

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Speaker 3: able to say that again next year as well. But

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Speaker 3: let's give Terry Francona Scotty all the credit in the world, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a future Hall of Fame manager for

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Speaker 3: a reason.

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Speaker 2: How did he get that lineup into the playoffs? Look,

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Speaker 2: I know they have good young starting pitching. I like it.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big la Daia Cruz fan. I love the

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Speaker 3: development of Marte. You know, he shows you flashes.

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Speaker 2: TJ. Friedel, you know, gets this team going. I love

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Speaker 2: his energy.

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Speaker 3: Steers a really good you know extra player here can

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Speaker 3: play all over the field.

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, has this line

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Speaker 2: up in the playoffs come on? Really?

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Speaker 3: So anyway, I'm looking forward to the series. Anyway, we

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Speaker 3: all know anything can happen in baseball. The Rockies did

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Speaker 3: not go oh in one sixty two for a reason.

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Speaker 3: The White Sox didn't go oh in one sixty two

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Speaker 3: for a reason. So perhaps maybe we can have a

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Speaker 3: miracle and something can happen on the mound. Dodgers haven't

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Speaker 3: treated him great over the years. Nick Lodolo will pitch

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Speaker 3: Game two of this series, and Ludolo's had success. Remember

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Speaker 3: that game in July when he punched out eleven Dodgers

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Speaker 3: and five in the third inning. So he has had

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Speaker 3: some success against his lineup, which is good to watch.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad the Reds are there. I'm happy for Terry Francona,

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Speaker 3: Nick Krawl, Brad Meter. I love all three of those guys.

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Speaker 3: How they got here, I have no idea, but I'm

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Speaker 3: really happy for the Queen City, Scottie.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: As ken Rosenthal said, it's the Wildcard presented by, or

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Speaker 1: brought to you by, the New York Mets. That third

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Speaker 1: wildcard spot. But hey, look the Reds. They had some

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Speaker 1: big games down the stretch here.

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Speaker 2: JB. Goods, enjoy the Wildcard round.

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Speaker 1: I know you getting fired up for this time of year,

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Speaker 1: so do I.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for stopping the Bible see.

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Speaker 5: This, dude.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Scott, Thanks AJ, Thanks Eric. Appreciate you guys,