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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweetl and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duels, Wednesday, May sixth, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skeetz here in the Classic Factory and alongside

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Speaker 1: Hello to everybody on YouTube podcast listeners, Hello as well,

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Speaker 1: five star ratings and reviews. Got some NBA news to

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Speaker 1: dig into on today's pod, talking Jayalen Brown, We're talking

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Speaker 1: Missiu Jeri and a whole lot more. But we had

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Speaker 1: two more game ones of the semifinals to dissect here.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the first one that was the more

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Speaker 1: entertaining of the two games last night, Kate Cunningham scoring

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Speaker 1: twenty three points, Tobias Harris adding twenty solid Toby as

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Speaker 1: the Pistons beat the Cavaliers one to eleven, one oh

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Speaker 1: one in game one of their second round series. Where

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Speaker 1: do you want to start with this one?

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Speaker 3: TKH, This is just a nice game, one nice game

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Speaker 3: of runs between our two Midwestern teams. Here turns out

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Speaker 3: Detroit was the team that had the last run in

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Speaker 3: their pocket, because I felt like, especially in the second half,

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Speaker 3: this was like six zero run, eight to two run,

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Speaker 3: back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. It

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Speaker 3: definitely looked like the Cavs had taken control of things

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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, stretching out a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a lead, but great resilience by the Pistons. Cad Cunningham

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Speaker 3: finding Jalen Duran for three straight dunks pretty impressive. He

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Speaker 3: had Noah Eagles screaming.

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Speaker 1: He's got a vendetta against that rim.

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Speaker 3: A couple of drop offs from Caid, really nice play,

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Speaker 3: and then that lefty that he threw from I don't

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Speaker 3: know thirty feet away finds Duran again. That was pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: But to me, felt like a very competitive game. Both

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Speaker 3: teams played well enough to win, but Detroit deserved to win.

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Speaker 3: They were crisper, they were a little bit more physical,

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Speaker 3: and that put them over the top in the end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great finish. I thought the Calves kind of gave

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Speaker 2: the Pistons their flow in the first quarter. They stun

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Speaker 2: in that first quarter. They were not playing with fight

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Speaker 2: and scrappiness. They allowed thirty seven points to get going.

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Speaker 2: There's a bunch of guys. I just didn't recognize that

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Speaker 2: they were a playoff ready and on the Cleveland side.

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Speaker 2: Like the first time Duncan Robinson got his first three

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Speaker 2: to go, it was a wide open three because James

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Speaker 2: Harden and Dean Wade miss miscommunicated. Aren't you ready? I

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Speaker 2: mean there was a wide open three. Is a practice

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Speaker 2: three that got him going. That's why Duncan Robinson had

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Speaker 2: five threes. Jared Allen, he barely recognized him out there

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Speaker 2: a lot of the time. There was a time where

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Speaker 2: he got the ball, he let Tobias Harris just strip them,

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Speaker 2: just wasn't ready to hold on to it. Or when

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Speaker 2: he had a pick and roll with Mitchell Mitchell tossed

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Speaker 2: it to him, Jared Allen kind of just didn't go

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Speaker 2: to it. So they're miscommunicated, kind of had his head down,

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Speaker 2: went to the bench with three fouls. Was that third

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Speaker 2: foul questionable? Sure it was, It was questionable, but I

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Speaker 2: thought across Mitchell, uh, Darren Mitchell. Mitchell caught another ball

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Speaker 2: like on the baseline, just standing out at bounds. He

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Speaker 2: just wasn't in the flow. So they allowed thirty seven points.

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Speaker 2: Then they came back. Denn Shrewder was great off the bench.

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Speaker 2: I thought, just to get the flow going. Max Struce

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Speaker 2: great off the bench. They lose Sam Merrill because of

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Speaker 2: injury off the bench, but that sort of leads me

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Speaker 2: into the game too. If they're going to start game

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Speaker 2: two way better, do they consider throwing Max Struce out

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Speaker 2: there instead of Dean Wade. I think that's a good

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Speaker 2: question with the energy level he played out there. Although

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Speaker 2: I thought Dean Wade played pretty good against Kate Cunningham

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Speaker 2: for the most part. Just using that height, top blocking,

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Speaker 2: doing a good job as Strutz was awesome. Shrewder was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knew that that second unit coming through was important.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if this this Sam Merrill injury is kind

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Speaker 2: of a little bit of a blessing, Like this is

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Speaker 2: Atkinson did. He played a lot of guys in this game.

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Speaker 1: You just didn't like how they came out ready for

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Speaker 1: Game one, though, like you said, there were no other

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Speaker 1: mistakes too. Sam Merril had his pocket picked at half

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Speaker 1: Streu's traveled. You brought up that one where I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty turnovers for Cleveland, which is like, you can't

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Speaker 3: win a playoff game with twenty turnovers. For the most part,

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Speaker 3: they were better in the second half. A lot of

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Speaker 3: it was Detroit pressure, like they were picking their pocket

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Speaker 1: Oops. I did it again. Believing in James Harden seven

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Speaker 3: I think he will be better, you know, I just

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Speaker 3: they just seemed a little bit out of sorts. You know,

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Speaker 3: both teams are coming off a tough seven game series,

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Speaker 3: and the Calves have a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Things that they could definitely clean up going forward.

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Speaker 3: So if I'm a Cleveland fan, I'm telling myself, we

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Speaker 3: played terrible and we still almost won that game. But

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Speaker 3: you gotta be a little concerned because round one of

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Speaker 3: the most disappointing big Men draft. This one goes to

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Speaker 3: Jalen Duran, who definitely handed it to Jared Allen got

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Speaker 3: him in foul trouble right away. Alan basically a non factor,

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Speaker 3: but I still would have rather gone with Alan in

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter over Avan Mobley, who was given up

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Speaker 3: offensive rebound after offensive rebound, barely boarding on himself, hardly

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Speaker 3: looking at the rim. The only shot I remember him

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if Allen has any sort of

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Speaker 3: impact on Duran in the fourth quarter, but Duran was

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess the entirety of this game, but

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Speaker 3: certainly in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, eleven points, twelve boards for Duran, seven on the

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Speaker 1: offensive glass, four assists, two two blocks, game high plus

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Speaker 1: seventeen and thirty five minutes he contested at game high

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Speaker 1: twenty one shots. He was much much better, even if

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Speaker 1: you're not seeing a twenty there in the point column

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Speaker 1: of the box score, much more of an impact. I'm

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Speaker 1: with you on that Mobili three. That was when all

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Speaker 1: those dunks were happening, because there was two dunks, little

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Speaker 1: they drew up or that was the play. It was

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Speaker 1: Mobley bricking of three. Jill and Durant was contesting that

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Speaker 1: that's when jillan Duran sprinted down the other end, sealed them,

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Speaker 1: Detroit to get the lead back after it was tied.

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Speaker 1: After it was tied, and Jialan Duran had a big

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Speaker 1: James Harden, man, what a weird what a weird player

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Speaker 1: like he has, Like he just looks like complete garbage

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Speaker 1: a big reason why they got back into this game

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Speaker 1: was the James Harden sort of run he had in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. But once again having more turnovers than

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Speaker 1: made baskets, third time in eight games for Harden in

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Speaker 1: these playoffs where that's occurred. He's got forty three turnovers

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Speaker 1: through eight games. He's asked about it after and he's like, look,

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Speaker 1: look at my turnovers. A lot of them are just

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Speaker 1: on me. Yep, a lot of them are A lot

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Speaker 1: mean Caid he had bad like feel on the ball

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Speaker 1: have to clean up, like you said, the twenty turnovers,

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Speaker 1: even though they're in the game, and then go, oh,

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Speaker 1: we had a chance to win this. But yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: gotta get so much better just getting shot like, you'll

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Speaker 1: felt like after one of those hard and turnovers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kad was good defensively to get in front of

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Speaker 2: Harden a couple of times and use his hands, but

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Speaker 2: Harden was just yeae in odd spots A lot of

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Speaker 2: the time. I mentioned that Duncan three. He just didn't

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Speaker 2: seem like he had it at times. But then here

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Speaker 2: he comes and he looked really good offensively, but too many,

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Speaker 2: too many turnovers. That's that's a James hard and special.

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Speaker 2: well against the Reps, but overall in that whole series,

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Speaker 2: that tends to be Dona Mitchell's special. So he's just

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Speaker 2: not getting into the lane a lot. I wouldn't say special,

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Speaker 2: but he's got to get into the lane and drive more,

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Speaker 2: but I don't We'll see if the Pistons can take

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Speaker 2: an odd way to start a series. I thought, just again,

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Speaker 2: too many guys stinking in that first quarter. They needed

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Speaker 1: Was a bit of a spark for them, whereas for

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Speaker 1: Duran Kaid's going to be Kaid, but like Dannis Jenkins, fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they got like to me, the Pistons got

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Speaker 1: either Kad who was hitting his threes, getting that pick

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Speaker 1: him right. And then when Danis Jenkins came in, he

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Speaker 1: had was like eight points right away. He had a

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Speaker 1: can obviously he's speedy, can get to his spot around

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Speaker 1: the free throw line. Hit a couple of those, but

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Speaker 1: he was good. Duncan Robinson hitting threes. Sar Thompson obviously

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Speaker 1: Cad and Tobias Harris as we started this, chipping in

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Speaker 1: his twenty I thought everybody played pretty good for Detroit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they looked like the home team.

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Speaker 2: They got.

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Speaker 3: Ron Holland hit a buzzer beater, Javonte Green hit a

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Speaker 3: buzzer beater. You'd count that out. We're talking about a

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Speaker 3: five point game for Cleveland. Like, I can't be too

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Speaker 3: disappointed if I'm the Calves. Both teams are playing after

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Speaker 3: exhausting series. Detroit should win Game one, but you look

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Speaker 3: at twenty turnovers for the Calves.

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Speaker 1: Got to clean that up.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about how many of them were self inflicted.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen offensive rebounds, way too many. They gave up way

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Speaker 3: too many free throws. These are all effort areas where

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Speaker 3: they can be a little bit better. I also think

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Speaker 3: he should get more Dennis Shreuder on the court, Like

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Speaker 3: his ball handling was really important. I thought in them

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Speaker 3: But like that, it was when they would put Mitchell

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Speaker 3: He gets everybody involved. That's the role he plays for

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe he had twenty three points in Game one,

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Speaker 2: They're doing a good job at times of picking Asar

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Speaker 2: He was not taking advantage of that. It's an odd

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Speaker 2: don't think the Cavs change their starting lineup and go

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Speaker 2: see Donovan mitchelliyah he should be in the on the

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Speaker 2: ball more. I totally agree, and listen, the playoffs are

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Speaker 2: handsy defensively. Guys are getting hands all over them and

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Speaker 2: every single game. We'll get to Shay Gillis Alexander not

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Speaker 2: I just it's such it's so different for the Pistons

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Speaker 1: Cleveland at some point has to win a road game

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Speaker 3: And Game one was winnable. It was, it was stealable

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Speaker 3: it for them. They played better. I thought Cleveland was

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Speaker 3: if you want, I would personally start Max Strus. I

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Speaker 3: So Game two not technically a must win for Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, So you kept bringing up like the

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Speaker 1: But I thought he was great and I brought him up. Remember,

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Speaker 1: do he hit five last night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean, who's his five out of ten

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Speaker 1: Five of their ten thrace last night?

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Speaker 2: Oh five of their ten ths? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he

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Speaker 2: was hot that it was five to eight again, that

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Speaker 2: that wasn't a great start for them. I think Jared

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Speaker 2: I thought he gave a decent effort all across the board,

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Speaker 2: a couple of blocks, you know, fourteen nine and five

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Speaker 1: Don't play Jared Allen.

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Speaker 3: They just came off a seventh grade series, seven game series,

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Speaker 3: like that's that's the why they played eleven guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, they won't play as many going forward, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But I'm also like, you can play a guy when

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Speaker 1: he has fouls too. He didn't foul out. He had

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Thomas Bryant was playing because Jared Allen was

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Speaker 2: bunch of reasons why they played so many guys. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure Kenny Atkinson didn't like the way Jared Allen looked

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Speaker 1: That is true. In his eighteen minutes where he was playing,

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Speaker 1: It's not like he was dominating. He was.

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Speaker 2: No, he's bad. Yeah, he was bad.

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Speaker 1: He was a ton in the second half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when they made the run, sure he was. Was

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Speaker 2: when Jalen Duran grabbed that offensive rebound on a free

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Speaker 2: I was going back. I was wondering Thomas Bryan was

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Speaker 2: And yeah, this question of the Cavs winning on the road,

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What else any other random notes or any other observations

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Speaker 3: If I'm going to be quite honest, from this game,

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Speaker 1: Well, was that all that was weird?

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Speaker 3: I was like in Mighty Ducks two when Kenny Wu

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Speaker 1: We didn't know you had it in Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 3: But uh, you know, I think cool if you're the

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Speaker 1: That wants to fight. Yeah, that's more concernative.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if he wanted to fight. That

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Speaker 2: video review to see if it should be elevated to

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Speaker 2: pretty vocal guy. He talks him trash. It's good stuff

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Speaker 1: Does he still have a podcast?

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the man.

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Speaker 2: Dennis Shruder's headband. I was surprised. Yeah, no, no headband. I

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Speaker 2: went back to last year thinking, okay, maybe here in

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Speaker 2: He did wear it, so I don't know that was

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Speaker 1: Because he got a haircut too, right. I think I

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Speaker 1: Brown who's now been bounced. Oh man, I wish there

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Speaker 1: was money or points for getting fine on twitch. I'd

434
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Speaker 1: be laughing right now. But yeah, you you and I

435
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,119
Speaker 1: were tired because you have a couple of points with

436
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Speaker 1: be stew In from the first round series.

437
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Speaker 2: So I'm done. Yeah, Isaiah, you mean you got beef

438
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 2: ste on your team? He could do so he needs

439
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Speaker 2: to get suspended or something. I mean down one right, Well,

440
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,760
Speaker 2: I made a big am I lost in the third

441
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Speaker 2: round when I picked Donovan Clinging over Mitchell Robinson. I

442
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,639
Speaker 2: debated it here. I was too busy watching you paint.

443
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 2: I just want I just I was like Clinging, I

444
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 2: should have gone with Mitchie.

445
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Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. And Trey you have you definitely

446
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 1: have one point. That's right, Okay, so you obviously it's

447
00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,800
Speaker 1: gonna play it a lot. Yeah, A man is got Yeah.

448
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,399
Speaker 1: Thompson there last night taking into the durance uh Sar

449
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,119
Speaker 1: Thompson had the chase down block on Kells. Did you

450
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 1: like the human eraser call on the broadcast? Not bad.

451
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 1: It could be a good nickname for him. It's not bad. Yeah, sure,

452
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, I like this moment. I think you got

453
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Speaker 1: the clip here JD Kenny Atkinson during intros, because these

454
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Speaker 1: broadcasts now show us the intros. Well, here's Kenny Atkinson,

455
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Speaker 1: trust me, that's Kenny Atkinson. Yeah he's there, trust me.

456
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: Just you know the light show they got going on

457
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 1: there in Detroit for the visiting team. Here are getting

458
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Speaker 1: the crowd hype for their team. But this is Kenny

459
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 1: Atkinson at the club, just sitting there, just waiting to

460
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Speaker 1: go home.

461
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

462
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Speaker 1: I'm probably doing Irish goodbye real soon. Here made me laugh.

463
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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I was stretching to find some random notes,

464
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Speaker 1: but I want to get your opinion on this. I

465
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Speaker 1: saw our guy Dave DeFore tweet last night. I don't

466
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Speaker 1: understand the broadcast discussing the free throw disparity in a

467
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Speaker 1: game without explaining it. The Pistons have been the aggressor

468
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Speaker 1: and that is often the reward. And again Dave brought

469
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Speaker 1: this up because there was you know, at the end

470
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Speaker 1: of the game as well, but early on, Piston's a

471
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Speaker 1: lot more free throw attempts than the Cavaliers. But if

472
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Speaker 1: you're watching the game, then you're sort of seeing why.

473
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Speaker 1: I thought, you think the broadcast should do a better

474
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Speaker 1: job of explaining why instead of just sort of just

475
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Speaker 1: like they throw it out there, like it's like, oh,

476
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Speaker 1: the Caves are getting a brutal call here tonight.

477
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Speaker 2: I heard that? Is that? All they said was Thatnston

478
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Speaker 2: said more.

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this isn't just that broadcast crew. You

480
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Speaker 1: hear this a lot. You know, he bring it up,

481
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Speaker 1: but you're like, okay, well what's the context a little

482
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Speaker 1: bit here?

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they should say, Yeah, Detroit was the more aggressive team.

484
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Speaker 2: That's why Kenny Atkinson said post game he said, yeah,

485
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Speaker 2: they were the aggressor. I think I think he rated

486
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Speaker 2: it out of ten. He said an energy level Detroit

487
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Speaker 2: nine point five US seven point three years it was

488
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Speaker 2: like a seven, And he's right, it was accurate. It

489
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Speaker 2: was either nine point five to seven. It's like, well,

490
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Speaker 2: how lower you go? I can couldn't wait, And I

491
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Speaker 2: think it was a really weird one, but that was accurate.

492
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Speaker 2: Detroit had the energy they had.

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Speaker 1: If you got the energy, it's probably gonna result more

494
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Speaker 1: free throws. It was just going to give them to you.

495
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I go out and get them, you know, yeah.

496
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Speaker 1: But I mean same points in the paint. Like, if

497
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Speaker 1: I'm the Cavs, I'm complaining about it too. If I'm

498
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Speaker 1: done with the Mitchell I think I should be getting

499
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Speaker 1: some calls. H for sure. Forty four points in the

500
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Speaker 1: paint both ways.

501
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, Jimmy, James Harden went to the free throw

502
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Speaker 2: line nine times. It's a good amount for him. That's

503
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Speaker 2: what That's what he should be expecting.

504
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Speaker 1: Anything else.

505
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: Nothing.

506
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Speaker 1: You feel confident, you guys, still in your Cavaliers pick though,

507
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: you know it's just one game. Fine, okay, okay, oh yeah,

508
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: all right, James Harden's going to come through.

509
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Speaker 2: Just watch.

510
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Speaker 1: Just you watched skates to watch all right, Let's go

511
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Speaker 1: to the other game from last night. Check Holmgren twenty

512
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Speaker 1: four points, twelve boards. Thunder routed the Lakers one eight

513
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Speaker 1: ninety in Game one of the Western Conference semifinal series.

514
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Speaker 1: The defending champs. They are perfect here in the playoffs.

515
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Speaker 1: Five and oh uh, let me start with this task.

516
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: This feels like a bit of a sobering defeat here

517
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Speaker 1: for the Lakers. And here's why they got off to

518
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Speaker 1: a good start. They brought the energy from the jump

519
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 1: that you were looking for. Maybe in Cleveland, Lebron shot

520
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: was falling twenty seven points, twelve to seventeen, shooting very,

521
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Speaker 1: very solid. The Lakers did a great job limiting the

522
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Speaker 1: reigning MVP and shake Gildos Alexander. You know, they were

523
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: forcing him to second guest things. He turned the ball

524
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Speaker 1: over seven times, and you know, you add all this

525
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Speaker 1: up and they still get waxed in this game. In

526
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Speaker 1: the end, it was close. It was like a four

527
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Speaker 1: point game, I think in the third quarter. But obviously

528
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Speaker 1: the Thunder went on their run. That's got to be

529
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Speaker 1: a little disheartening, is my point here. You know, things

530
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Speaker 1: went okay for you. If you're a Lakers fan, then

531
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Speaker 1: you still lose by eighteen would I say, oh yeah, yeah,

532
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Speaker 1: eighteen points? And so they covered. Hey, but Jake Laaravia

533
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Speaker 1: did hit a three.

534
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Speaker 3: Shot of the game cut it from twenty one to

535
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Speaker 3: eighteen to fourteen.

536
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Speaker 1: Tough, But what do you what do you think here?

537
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Speaker 2: Well, a couple of things that went wrong for the Lakers.

538
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves didn't have a good night. He shot poorly,

539
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: that stunk. They were extremely physical with him and it

540
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 2: kind of threw him off a little bit. They did

541
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Speaker 2: a really good job on him. They also allowed a

542
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: lot of second chance points and a lot of offensive

543
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 2: rebound so the second chance points can't be won by

544
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: the thunder twenty one to eleven. That's too many. And

545
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 2: I thought Chet was awesome, We know that. I thought

546
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Speaker 2: he took his sweet time. You know, he missed his

547
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: first shot. I think he missed the second shot, and

548
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 2: he took a sweet time getting a pass from aj

549
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 2: Mitchell underneath the hoop that wasn't an incredible pass when

550
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: under his crotch. He took us time, he slowed it

551
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: down and he scored, and that was the beginning of

552
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: a great night for Chet.

553
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 1: Over first of six dunks. I believe that.

554
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Speaker 2: One six dunkers. Yeah, that's a good amount. So the

555
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 2: Lakers have to be perfect blocking out Chet and Isaiah Hartenstein,

556
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 2: who was really really good as well, and Austin Reis

557
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: has to be better because Shay not a terrific night

558
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: for his seven turnovers the season and they still somehow

559
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Speaker 2: get by seven turnovers only three free throws. And he

560
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: was trying to sell it too, but he wasn't flopping

561
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 2: all that hard. But he thought he was getting his

562
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: first two turnovers he thought he was getting the call

563
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: when he went up, he thought Austin Rivers was going

564
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 2: to bang his arm. Did not happen, and then he

565
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: did a whoop woop woop woo, fell down almost he

566
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: should have sold it and fell down on another one

567
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: he just threw back. So yeah, all in all, bad,

568
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 2: bad to give up boards and Austin Reeves. Maybe he'll

569
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Speaker 2: have a good night.

570
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Speaker 1: Three to sixteen from the floor, four turnovers. His one

571
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: shot that wasn't right at the rim was like a

572
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Speaker 1: jumper around the free throw line and that was it.

573
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Speaker 1: But this is also a like the guy's coming back

574
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Speaker 1: from injury. So there's that part, okay, like he's played

575
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Speaker 1: in a handful of games here coming back from the

576
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: grade too oblique strain. But he also is for a

577
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: long time now not being able to play well against

578
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Speaker 1: the Thunder because of the guards that they can chuck

579
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Speaker 1: at this guy and they make it very difficult. I

580
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Speaker 1: thought A. J. Mitchell was awesome defensively when he was

581
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Speaker 1: matched on Reeves. I mean, he did his thing on

582
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: the other end as well, but he was great. So

583
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: this is, yeah, this is tough here. TK. There's a

584
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Speaker 1: big reason why everybody was saying sweet like you, or

585
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: maybe at most five, not a lot of other things.

586
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: I saw where it Thunder and six or seven of

587
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: the Lakers winning because they're just I just don't think

588
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: they can without Luca.

589
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna have to get lucky to win one

590
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: game because they had a perfect game plan for Shay.

591
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: He came out, he said, I'm a little bit rusty postgame.

592
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: They were doubling him all the time. He was throwing

593
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 3: passes to where guys weren't expecting to be I think

594
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: Check kind of said, yeah, he's the one who eats

595
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 3: all the turnovers, but there were times when we weren't

596
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: in the right spots either.

597
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: But the Lakers got ninety points. They can't score.

598
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have been under one hundred and their last

599
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: four games, and they're playing against an even better defensive

600
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: team in the Thunder than the Rockets were. So heading

601
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: into the series, JJ said, I gotta be careful with

602
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: my timeouts. I called timeouts too fast to stop runs.

603
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: And he called three timeouts in the second quarter and

604
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: had none left for the entirety of the second half

605
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 3: of the game, and it didn't even really matter. So

606
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, you just look at the rosters and

607
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 3: you see the team that the Thunder put out in

608
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: garbage time, and you're like, oh, Isaiah Joe would be

609
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: the seventh man for the Lakers, and he's running around

610
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 3: here with two seconds left on the clock.

611
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they needed that Isaiah Joe help off the bench.

612
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 2: One thing that has hurt Luke going to the bench

613
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 2: is that he was flowing in that in the starting

614
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: lineup in the first series, and he hasn't been good

615
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: since having to go to the bench. When Reeves came back,

616
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: there's that. You know, you can hope for a better

617
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: backcourt performance from the Lakers with Austin Reeves and Marcus Smart,

618
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: who had a bad night shooting the ball, Why I

619
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 2: have a couple more of those threes go down for him.

620
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: He shot four or fifteen overall. But you got a

621
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: great Lebron game. It looked spectacular from the tip.

622
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: He was great.

623
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: Damn it was. It was pretty stuff from that guy.

624
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: And again, like this was a four point game. In

625
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: the third quarter, I think Reeves had a good look

626
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: at a three and you know, it cuts it to

627
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: one and he hit whatever. But then that's where the

628
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: Thunder rattled off like a seven straight points. It was

629
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: a low door three. It's caseon Wallace with a steal

630
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: in a layup. It's Aj Mitchell having a four point

631
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: play there in the corner at the end to push

632
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: it back to twelve as they entered the fourth quarter,

633
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: to give them more breathing room. But I mean it

634
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: was they were there, they were close, but you never

635
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: ever in watching it felt like, oh god, there they

636
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: figured something out here. Yeah, they're doing a good job

637
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: on SGA, But but what about all the other guys

638
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: because chet Holmgren was a beast and then they were

639
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: like taking advantages of mismatches all night with him early on,

640
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: and he did. He was always in the right spot,

641
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: all the dunks, like we said, and then in addition

642
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: all the great defense from him, three blocks, a steal.

643
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: They scored the Lakers forty points in the paint. You know,

644
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: that's probably not going to cut it either. So this

645
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: is a tough team. This is a very very good team.

646
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jared McCain played five minutes per game in a

647
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: blowout sweep in the first round. So this round, you know,

648
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: Jalen Williams is hurt. They say, okay, well we can

649
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Speaker 3: play this series four threes. Yeah, he would start for

650
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: the Lakers. Yeah, I mean Lukenard awesome couple of games.

651
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: He's not going to have a good game in this series.

652
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: Too one dimensional for this series. Probably the layer of

653
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: competition is just it's crazy like this is. You know,

654
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: the the Lakers had the closest sweep in NBA history

655
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: against the Nuggets a couple of years ago.

656
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be this.

657
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: No, No, it's very different. The Rockets and Thunder are

658
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: very different scoring wise.

659
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: Period of yew the Thunder reserves outscored the Lakers bench

660
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 1: thirty four to fifteen. You brought up Jared McCain hit

661
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: all of his three pointers, checking his nails when he's

662
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: hitting those threes. Isaiah Joe scored nine. Alex Cruso did

663
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: his you know, normal wrecking ball stuff on both sides.

664
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Speaker 1: Injury that's right, Yes, in the nose, that's right. That

665
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: was the first injury. When we had another one. We'll

666
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: get to in a second though. And Cason Wallace also contributed.

667
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean he five points, four boards, three steals, two dimes.

668
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: You know, it just fills the box scoring. It's all

669
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: this pressure defense. These guys can just keep coming in

670
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: waves here. That's the thing. You survive. You survive the

671
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: team for a quarter sixteen minutes and then you're like, ah,

672
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: you're trying to catch your breath. If you're the Lakers,

673
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: then here comes another wave of guys like they can

674
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: play full tilt all the time because they have so

675
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: many guys that they can go to. And that's missing

676
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: one of their own NBA guys who would obviously probably

677
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: have a bit of an impact on slowing, like a

678
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 1: Lebron James or something like that. I'm talking about JDub

679
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: the other jail Wiam. So yeah, they have an unbelievble

680
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: squad here. It's gonna be very difficult. The other injury, though,

681
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: was Lakers forward Jared Vanderbilt injuring his pinky finger off

682
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: the backboard. I can't ever recall seeing this, but we

683
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: have the clip of the OKC bench seeing his pinky

684
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: after he smashed it off the glass. Look at them

685
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: all turning in disgust, looking oh no, and uh yeah,

686
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: that's that's a bone sticking out of that little pinky there.

687
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: That's what's happening here. Yeah, And you can see in

688
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: the slow mo his pinky hitting the glass and it

689
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: looks gross. He's gonna have a Lionel Hollins on his

690
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: hands here, Oh my god. Gross, And just like again,

691
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: weird the amount of force to like smack the backboard

692
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: with your finger to have it the bone pop out

693
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: of it. Apparently they were looking for the other part

694
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: of his finger at first, like the skin part, because

695
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was like hanging under it and

696
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: it's still attached.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: Sorry it's a little graphic here, but like there was

699
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: a couple of people looking for it. But oh, it's

700
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 1: it's just hanging on by a thread, I guess, And yeah,

701
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: it was right. I've shared this story before, but I

702
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: was at a volleyball tournament once and we were we

703
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: were just coming in. It was a bunch of teams

704
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: playing and all these games are going on, and our

705
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: team was coming into the gym like in the hallway,

706
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: and suddenly there was like from one of the gym's

707
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: like just this crazy, crazy reaction and we're like, oh

708
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: my god, what just happened in this game? And like

709
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: three beats later, a kid came running out of the

710
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: gym in the hallway right by us with holding like

711
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: his arm and his bone was sticking out through his

712
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: like wrist. I guess he had fallen on it. We

713
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: didn't see it, but when he came and it was

714
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: we oh my god. We reacted like the thunder did.

715
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: When you see a bone outside of the body, go,

716
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm not a surgeon, man, so keep your bones in

717
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: your body.

718
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the place them.

719
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right. Anyway sort of reminded me

720
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: of so you know, it's it's his offhand, it's his pinky.

721
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: I guess you could play through it. I think tape

722
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: it up, but he would play through itez. It's not

723
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: gonna mess with a shot. No it isn't. There's non

724
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: shooting hand. He can't shoot anyways, So I would risk it.

725
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean, not my fingers, I'd risk it. I don't

726
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: think it's gonna matter whether their Jared vendor Bill plays

727
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: really at all.

728
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: But anyway, this is the the smallest body part. I

729
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: think that we're where we've seen such a reaction.

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00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:35,239
Speaker 3: Right.

731
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: This is a pinky, literally a pinky, and so that

732
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: we didn't see any bones, I mean, the best angle

733
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: of any camera. As I was trying to go through it,

734
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: I was wondering how gross am I getting what are

735
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: these guys looking at? I gotta see And I tried

736
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: to get into it was yeah, the finger off the

737
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: side of the backboard, and it's a wiggler, you know,

738
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: it's it's one of that.

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00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: It looks too I've seen the Getty image where there's bone.

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00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, already.

741
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: But he did that, and it was a quick photoshop work.

742
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: Unless I just got duped, it would look like that

743
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: they were reacting to a bone, his pinky bone coming

744
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: out of his finger. I believe that's what they were

745
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: reacting to. They weren't reacting to a bent finger, Alonel

746
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: Hollands finger. They weren't doing that. They were like, oh

747
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: my god. They were disgusted yea, and he and they

748
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: were covering it. They were doing all the things that

749
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that bone was sticking up. Yeah, this one,

750
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: this one just looks like a very close crop of

751
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: a photo. To me, Okay, that's bone, babe, that's a

752
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: little bone sticking OUTSSA. Tuck it, tuck it in, tape

753
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: it up.

754
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: Surprise. With a thousand cameras, I thought maybe one would

755
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: get something, just a quick shot that everybody on the bench,

756
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: including the assistant coaches back there like, I'm not looking

757
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: at that.

758
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: No one wanted to see that anything else. From Thunder

759
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: over Lakers Game one.

760
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: Isaiah Hartenstein hit one of his floaters in the second half,

761
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: and I love the celebration from everybody.

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00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: It's the little angel wings and I thought Jalen Williams

763
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: kind of sold it the most in his pink jacket.

764
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah he was. He was really floating, and

765
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: of course everybody doing like I said that Jared McCain

766
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: celebration when he hits the three and he throws out yeah, exactly,

767
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: though I've wanted him to add like him nails. I

768
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: don't see why I had to do that.

769
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: But it's a short jacket from Jalen Williams. Sorry cropped yeah,

770
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: waist not barely at the waist.

771
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: Mike Rico was loving it was he said he was

772
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: on his met gala ish.

773
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: Mike Rico said that on the broadcast, me galla ish

774
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 3: going a little too far with that jacket. You can't

775
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: wear jeans to the met Gala. Give me a break,

776
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: Mike me a break. Did you not see Jimmy Butler?

777
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 3: Did you not see Dwayne Wade? Did you not see

778
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: Steph Curry at the met Gala.

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00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: I think those are the only NBA guys. There's a

780
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: bunch of w NBA stars. Ben Stiller was there at

781
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: one point.

782
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: Shay Gild with Alexander I think there's a pretty late

783
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, like the dead ball. He recovers

784
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: the ball with his foot and does like the soccer dribbling,

785
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: bouncing up and down on his two feet. And there's

786
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: a woman in the first row who's like, could.

787
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: Not believe that he had the skills to while this off.

788
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: Look at him do that, and he's a basketball player school.

789
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: These guys got skills's excited for the World Cup. She

790
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: must be right around the corner, all right.

791
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: And my last note, a minute forty five left in

792
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: the game. Okaysee is up by seventeen and the arena

793
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: is playing I Don't Care, I Love It, And you

794
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 3: could see sixty four year old Chip England standing behind

795
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: the bench for the thunder.

796
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: Bob in his head.

797
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Yeah, that's how much they were stressed in

798
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: this game. Chip England's dancing to I Don't Care, I

799
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: Love It.

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00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

801
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: I think they always play that. I think it's part

802
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: of the when they win. Yeah, run it they're a

803
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: titanium David Getta going into the fourth quarter every single game.

804
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: But yeah, they got the same same oldies.

805
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: Well that's a perfect way to wrap up the conversation

806
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: with this game, like that idea, because that's how I felt.

807
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: It's like they didn't seem to be taking the Lakers

808
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: all that seriously. You know, even when it was close

809
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: early and Shay having a bad game, there was no

810
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: sweat from this team at all, because I truly believe

811
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, they can't score enough to beat us,

812
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: don't worry, and they're gonna have to take their guys

813
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: off and give them a rest. You don't worry. We

814
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: have an entire second unit that could maybe half of

815
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: them could start for this team right now with them

816
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: all banged up. So yeah, they were not they were

817
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: not concerned. I'll say that about the Lakers in Game

818
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: one is they're a good team. Yeah, they're quite good.

819
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, and then we got a bunch

820
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,920
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Speaker 1: we have talked so much about the playoffs and obviously

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Speaker 1: the games and doing the series previews and all that,

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Speaker 1: there's other things happening here in the NBA world, and

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00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: we're going to tackle them here today. First one, NBA

840
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: find Celtics forward Jill and Brown fifty thousand dollars on

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00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: Tuesday after he accused officials of having an agenda against

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00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: him in Boston's first round loss to the seventy six ers.

843
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: The league announced it ad find him for public criticism

844
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: of the officiating. Two days after, Brown, in an appearance

845
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: on his Twitch stream wearing what I believe we're Oakley's,

846
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: took issue with the officials. Jillan Brown was wearing the

847
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: sunglasses and every other person on that stream in the

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00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: back that we're wearing these again, I think Oakley's definitely

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00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: orange mirrored phrase.

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Speaker 2: Yeah sponsor, Yeah, yeah, I guess so.

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00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: Anyway, fifty k second time he's been fined this season.

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00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: You got thirty five thousand dollars fine for you know,

853
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: same sort of idea calling out the officials. Any reaction

854
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: to this from Brown, This is a sad state of affairs.

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00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: NBA players can't go on Twitch and complain about referees anymore.

856
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 3: What does our world come to? Back in my day,

857
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: we can do this. This is just funny, man. The

858
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: guy went on Twitch and complained about referees and got

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00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: fined fifty thousand dollars, So he should retitle that stream

860
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: world's most expensive Twitch stream, and then he should do

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00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: a follow up. I got fined fifty thousand dollars for streaming.

862
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: He's like, right, right, right, crazy man?

863
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: Nice, Yeah, just keep it going exactly.

864
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has been keeping it going this entire season

865
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: in that he shows up to Twitch every single time.

866
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 2: He has been very consistent. He mentioned that he patted

867
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: himself on the back, just like we pat ourselves on

868
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: the back head. We show up every day and we

869
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: do our podcast. He does that, he said, calls himself

870
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: the only regular twitcher. You know, he pointed out Kyrie

871
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: he used to do it. I don't know if he

872
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: still does it. As I was catching up on some

873
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: clips here, I cut up on some clips. I don't

874
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: watch the whole thing, and that he made that clear

875
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: that if you listen to the whole thing, but nobody does.

876
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: I did give praise to the Philadelphia seventy six ers

877
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: for playing awesome, and they're coaching staff for playing awesome.

878
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not what the fine is for. Oh,

879
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: it's not about him be flopping. It's about him calling

880
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: out the officials. Well, he was literally looking at clips going, uh, hey,

881
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: I got a call for a Paul Georgian.

882
00:39:59,719 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: He was.

883
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: He was giving what he said he was gave price

884
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: to the entire coaching staff of the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

885
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: Now I saw as I was trying to go through

886
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: the clips. I saw t mac and Vince Carter. They

887
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: do their podcast also sponsored by FanDuel. I saw him

888
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: basically saying, I've been hearing that he's just not happy

889
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: with the coaching staff in bosson. I shouldn't say I

890
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: shouldn't say that. He said the coaching staff, he just said,

891
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: like the entire organization. Yeah, the whole thing in a jig,

892
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: and that maybe he just ain't happy with that. So

893
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: there's you know, that plant to see. But yeah, when

894
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: we went through the potential worst things that he said,

895
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: it was, yeah, the refs, that was the Hey, this

896
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: was my favorite year when I won an NBA Finals MVP.

897
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: So he said, you know, a lot of stuff. And

898
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: then he also shut down the chat for subscribers only

899
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: because he didn't like what people were saying in the chat.

900
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: So a lot of stuff happening, a lot of stuff

901
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: happening on Twitch.

902
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: Celtics fans definitely feel like this was kind of the

903
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: soft launch of a trade quests yep from Jalen Brown.

904
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean definitely when McGrady starts saying that McGrady has

905
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: been sort of his uh, I don't know, mouth piece

906
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: is the right word, but sort of linked with Jayleen

907
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: Brown over the last little bit here. So if he

908
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: is saying that there might be some truth to that,

909
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: this idea that there's some butting of heads between Jillen

910
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: Brown and the organization and this is new ownership and

911
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: all that coming in, you know, Jalen Brown for you honest,

912
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: there's something there.

913
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: M hmm.

914
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: Sounds great for the Celtics. It does, indeed, doesn't it

915
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: Not bad? Not a bad return for a great player

916
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: if you're Milwaukee Bucks.

917
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was laughing a lot at Bill Simmons saying

918
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 3: that obviously the only logical trade is that the Celtics

919
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 3: trade away Jalen Brown and get Yannis back. Why would

920
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 3: the Hawks possibly be involved in a three team trade

921
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: where they don't get yonest?

922
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: Hey man, he's got to try and get you honest

923
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: to his team.

924
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

925
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: But this whole like the fifty thousand dollars fine for

926
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: the again calling out the officials, This is a vicious

927
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: cycle that Brown is doing here, right, because yeah, yes,

928
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: he was called for a lot of offensive fouls in

929
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: the first round. I think it was called for ten total,

930
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: just like more than double anyone else, like your Cats

931
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: and a couple other guys. But he says on Twitch

932
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: here he goes, I don't know if it's because I

933
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: pissed the rest off. I've been critical about them and

934
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: I called them out a bunch of times, so they

935
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: were like, you know what I got you in the playoffs?

936
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: Watch this because that's exactly what they did. So he

937
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: is he's actually saying, because I called them out before,

938
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: now they're coming in with this, you know, vendetta against me.

939
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he called it an agenda basically, yeah, to go

940
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: get me.

941
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: But then doing this is just more of that, and

942
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: then it's still your fear theory is right then aren't

943
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: you just gonna be screwed even more? It's like, what

944
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: are you doing man with that? With the whole calling

945
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: the fouls on the offensive fil I just sort of

946
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: calling out the officials.

947
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 2: I guess, yes I can, Yeah, yeah, yeah. It could

948
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: definitely be a point of conversation with the referees and

949
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: that they see these clips in general, because they ain't

950
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: watching all the clips, but they hear. I'm sure they

951
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: hear about this all the referees in general. I don't

952
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 2: know about these three in per articular, because he's keeping.

953
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: He went at these three called them all out. Yes,

954
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 2: that's all three of them.

955
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

956
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

957
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: He also after the fine jumped on I guess ex Twitter,

958
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown here quote clickbait is like flopping for the media,

959
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: exaggerating contact, you'll be safe here?

960
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay.

961
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: I I had a really hard time understand what he

962
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 3: was talking about here. Yeah, is the should there be

963
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: a period after media? Like That's That's two separate parts

964
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: of a sentence, right, I'm clippings like clickbait is like

965
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 3: flopping for the media period and thought, because it's exaggerating

966
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: contact another period, perhaps you'll be safe out here. That

967
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 3: part I get from, yeah, the media into exaggerating kind

968
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 3: of a lip here.

969
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: And this is why he said he started his twitch man.

970
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of his stream and basically he

971
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: said why he started this whole thing was because he's

972
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: tied tired of media's media in general just clickbaiting and

973
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: just going for whatever gets you more dollar slash clicks slash.

974
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: And I understand that. I get that, But there's some

975
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: good media out there too, Jalen Brown. I'm not trying

976
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: to pat us on the back, but I mean there

977
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: are people who do look for journalism as well. Congrats

978
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: to Pablovatory and his award. People do good people do

979
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: good work out there, that's all. But I understand where

980
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: he's coming from. Clickbater's out there, that's all. That's all.

981
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: Hold on. So he is saying, in order to U

982
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: just negate the media, who are going to twist what

983
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: I say and obviously parse out parts and make these

984
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: tweets and make these posts and all that. In order

985
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: to combat that, I am going to do a full

986
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: blown twitch stream where I'm going to say everything I

987
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: want to say, and then they will then be forced

988
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: to quote every single word I say on the twitch

989
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: stream and not parse out those parts, which is exactly

990
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: what everybody is doing where we just find the juicy parts.

991
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: Where people find the juicy parts, you're actually again making

992
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: it worse. He's just making all these things worse. In mind,

993
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: the officials this idea of that, they're spinning the narrative.

994
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: You're giving them more fuel here to do. They're not

995
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: going to stop. So the only way I guess to

996
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: stop it is just not twitch stream at all. It's

997
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: simply a possibility. I guess there's no way he could

998
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: do that. He's got one of the biggest chips on

999
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: his shoulder in the entire league. Whose job is it

1000
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: at the league office to watch this whole stream? Money

1001
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: Mac twitchin twitch it all right, We'll see what else

1002
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: comes of the jail and Brown, whether it's going to

1003
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: be more smoke to this fire or this idea of

1004
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: like him wanting to be traded or not. You know

1005
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: that that that's us implying that or people the media

1006
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: saying that. Right now, he didn't say that on you

1007
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: watch the twitch stream. He didn't say trade me from

1008
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: the Celtics, Didy.

1009
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: I highly doubt it. Okay, again, I didn't watch every minute.

1010
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: I gotta be completely honest.

1011
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: But well, if he did, he get fined for a

1012
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: public trade request. Yeah, all right, next piece of news here.

1013
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: According to our guy Michael Grange, the Toronto Raptors made

1014
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: a serious push to acquire Jaron Jackson Junior from the

1015
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: Grizzlies before the trade deadline, but were unable to complete

1016
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: a deal due to the burden of Yaka Pearl's remaining contract.

1017
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: There was a lot in this article from Michael Grange

1018
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: at Sportsnet. You know, it was sort of like a

1019
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: deep dive after the season here for the Raptors and

1020
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: what's next and where do they go with this expensive

1021
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: roster where a lot of guys were injured or coming

1022
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: up short in the case of Yaka Purl and where

1023
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: do they go from here? But that was slipped in

1024
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: here to ask this idea of that. They did try

1025
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: and get Jaron Jackson Junior but couldn't get it done

1026
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: and big part of it's not allowed demand for Yaka

1027
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: Pearl's contract and he was hurt at the time and

1028
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: all that.

1029
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Raptors got to get rid of money if

1030
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: they were to get Jared Jackson junior, and Pearl's contract

1031
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 2: is the heaviest of the burden amongst all those contracts.

1032
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: There's four years left on Yaka Pearl.

1033
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: Four million.

1034
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then you know, we all debated going into this season,

1035
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: does the combination of Pearl and especially Ingram, Barnes and

1036
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: Barrett on the perimeter makes sense to go along with

1037
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: quickly in the backcourt? Quickly it's got three years left

1038
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: and Ingram's got too. Bart just the one now, so

1039
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 2: there's yeah, they couldn't outbid the Utah Jazz essentially, is

1040
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: what it came down to. The Jazz were able to

1041
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: get Kyle Anderson, Walter Clayton, Junior, Taylor Hendrix, George Yang

1042
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: in three first round picks. That's the couldn't outbid part

1043
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: of it. The Raptors do have all their picks in

1044
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: the majority of them, so they could have. But you

1045
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: know those three first round picks weren't just the Memphis

1046
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: Grizzlies picks. There was a Lakers pick, there was a

1047
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: Phoenix Sun's pick. So yeah, they had to give get

1048
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: rid of money and they couldn't do it. So I

1049
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: understand them, Colin, let's try and make this happen. That

1050
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't make sense. That's why this Demonta Sabonis possibility is

1051
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: a possibility. They want to get a big who could

1052
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 2: help out. But the Pearl contract that was signed and

1053
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: after messiou Jeri, who was fired by Bobby Webster, is

1054
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: the worst of them all. Let's be completely honest when

1055
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 2: looking at that entire landscape of the next four years.

1056
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, you're going to have to on a draft

1057
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: compensation to even have a chance of getting off of

1058
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: Pearl's contract. Right here, The biggest concern to me is

1059
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: on Monday, Pearl said, yeah, my back isssue, It's all good.

1060
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't a problem. After the All Star break. It

1061
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: was like, oh, at least we had that excuse when

1062
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: you were not maybe playing up to your standard. But

1063
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: now you're saying you're healthy. It's like, oh, okay, go

1064
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: back to saying your back hurts. Maybe, but yeah, this

1065
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: is there are big decisions here for the raps here,

1066
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: who had a good, good run, good season, maybe exceeded

1067
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: some expectations for some people, and then obviously put up

1068
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: a fight in the first round. But the quickly obviously

1069
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: a Barrett to consider here Ingram obviously he has a

1070
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: big deal, and then Pearl TK You're.

1071
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 3: Thought, well, I think that's the question that's basically set

1072
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: up by Michael Grange here because obviously the Raptors didn't

1073
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: get Jared Jackson Junior. This is a cool story, bro

1074
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 3: like it would have cost them for first round picks minimum,

1075
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: because if it costs three first round picks to actually

1076
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 3: get him from Memphis, you got to pay up at

1077
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: least a pick to get off Perle for first round picks.

1078
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: It's not worth it for Jared Jackson Junior.

1079
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 3: So maybe a bullet dodged there, But they're gonna have

1080
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: to pay to get off the quickly contract At this point,

1081
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a huge market probably for brandon

1082
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 3: ingram er Go.

1083
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: Would you trade r J. Barrett?

1084
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 3: He's got one year remaining on his deal, but he

1085
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: just had an awesome season. He's a Toronto guy. He

1086
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: had an awesome shot in Game six, he showed up

1087
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 3: in the playoffs.

1088
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: He's just hitting his prime, right, He's not old. But

1089
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: if you want to remake the team in any sort

1090
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: of way, he's the obvious trade candidate.

1091
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the most tradeable of all those contracts. I do

1092
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: wonder what the market is for quickly and three years left.

1093
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: I think they want to keep him around. They want

1094
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 2: to keep the hometown boy and RJ. Barrett around. They

1095
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: need a big that's the that's the problem.

1096
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: They also got to clear some space if they want

1097
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: to sign Mamu back again.

1098
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then so would you trade r J Barrett? Like, yeah,

1099
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: that's that's a fair question.

1100
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: Or do you want to run it back? That those

1101
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: seem like the two main options. Yeah, yeah, you run

1102
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: it back and either build up trade value in these

1103
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: guys were saying, you're trying to trade be it quickly?

1104
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: Ingram or Pertol even maybe suddenly, you know, bounce with

1105
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: back whatever. I think that's more likely. I don't think

1106
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: they're trading RJ. Barrett after what he did bring in

1107
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: the in the postseason here and and his age, Like

1108
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: I think I saw Raptors Republic. I thought they put

1109
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: it well for a long time, half a decade. The

1110
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: Raptors have just been wandering in the desert here, and

1111
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: they've just been watching all their champions leave, like one

1112
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: by one or two at a time, right, Kawhi, Danny Green, Surge, Marcasol,

1113
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry, Norman Powell all gone. Then Van Vliet, then

1114
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: og and Siakam, so they're all gone, and now it

1115
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: looks like they finally have an idea of like what

1116
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: they want to be and who they are going forward,

1117
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: and is under Darko and led by Scottie Barnes, this

1118
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: sort of defensive identity that they have here and these

1119
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: young guys and Culin Murray Boyles, Kobe Walter, Jamal Shad.

1120
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying she is like a starting point guard.

1121
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but like there's something there and

1122
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: r Ja even thought held up defensively.

1123
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: For his shortcomings.

1124
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: So all those guys are under the age of twenty five.

1125
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: There is a direction, it feels like, but they are

1126
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: just like unfortunately handcuffed with all these huge contracts. Like

1127
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: if we just removed one of these big contracts on

1128
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: one of these three guys were saying, you're feeling a

1129
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: lot better, but they I feel like they have to

1130
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: they do have to probably just take a bath on

1131
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: one of them in trying to get off it. So

1132
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: you would include picks on tracking, I think, like I

1133
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: mean Perl, yes, I would, I would, but I think

1134
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm more likely hoping he bounces back and it's like

1135
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: write it off wash of a season and then he

1136
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: plays a little bit better to then convince somebody is

1137
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: taken off.

1138
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: But man, four years, holy crap.

1139
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the worrisome part is and they's getting more expensive.

1140
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: Goes down at the end, doesn't It does dip at

1141
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: the end. It does dip at the end. Good, it's

1142
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: getting more twenty thirty trade deadline.

1143
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: He out of the Yeah, the worst part with the

1144
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: Eco purdle is the back. IDEA guy's back is not

1145
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: going to get better. I understand these he said it

1146
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: that it got better, but in the playoffs, it was

1147
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: unplayable at times. He had some good minutes, There's no doubt,

1148
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 2: but at the same time.

1149
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: Good not even exaggerated. I think he had like six

1150
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: good minutes.

1151
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: So well, they're super happy that Colin Murray Boyles can

1152
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 2: come in and be a backup center and be awesome

1153
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 2: at it. But he is undersized. He's not a starting

1154
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: center for a long period of time. So there's that

1155
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: if you're hopeful and going to next year, and I

1156
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: think they're just hopeful that Emmanuel quickly can come back

1157
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 2: and play. He played seventy games this season, so going

1158
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: forward into the playoffs, if they if they think if hey,

1159
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: we got the same team and quick as playing a

1160
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: guy who can stretch the floor, I say they need

1161
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: a big but they also just need somebody who can

1162
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: hit some shots. That's what they're gonna go for. That's

1163
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 2: what they're going to do this season.

1164
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: Let me throw it to trade proposal from our guy,

1165
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: Ben Gulliver. He texted me this brandon Ingram Grady Dick

1166
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: tj D and draft assets for Kevin Durant. Here's his thinking.

1167
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: Katie will respect Toronto's young guys. Unlike Houston. He'll embrace

1168
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: the six gives the Raps a shot at the East Finals.

1169
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: They're already expensive, so it's not a huge deal. Ingram

1170
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: younger and cheaper, removes the Katie poison from the Rockets,

1171
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: fills a positional need. Again, that's Ben.

1172
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: Gulliver hold on Ingram Dick picks.

1173
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically it's basically Ingram, Dick and draft assets. I

1174
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: don't I can't imagine it'd be a lot at Katie's age,

1175
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: but for uh, basically swap Ingram and Katie and it's

1176
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: gonna take cost you Grady Dick and whatever draft capital.

1177
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the draft capitol part is important, but.

1178
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's four first round picks, saying yeah.

1179
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I considered the Ingram as the primary

1180
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: part of an Ingram and for Sabonis, so this is definitely, Yes,

1181
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 2: it's doable. I would do it. Sure. I think Dick

1182
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: is going to be moving on from the Toronto Raptors

1183
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: very soon.

1184
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. That was also in Grange's article here, that they're

1185
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: going to likely free up some more money by trading

1186
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: him Grady Dick into maybe another team's cap space.

1187
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: Yea seven mil, and then they can resign ma'am oh,

1188
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, who's got a player option? Mamukelish Philly

1189
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 2: ain't taking that play at option. His agent ain't saying

1190
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 2: two point eight panks. I'm better than that. So yeah,

1191
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: I think Grady Dick would probably be the only one

1192
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 2: to go. I don't know if I'm the Raptor's front

1193
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: office of course, a Durant or Sabonis, I know it's yes,

1194
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: you got to do it right.

1195
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: Well, I dropped Ben Goliver with three of these thinking emojis.

1196
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: Let me think them, Let me think, let me think.

1197
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: What did you come up with? I mean I would

1198
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: do that?

1199
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1200
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Ingram if it's like very low draft capital, yeah,

1201
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: let's go.

1202
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: Maybe.

1203
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder how much it would cost. Probably only

1204
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: one pick.

1205
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 2: That's one pick.

1206
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: That's personally what I think, because guy is old, come on,

1207
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: and who knows what he's going to tweet about your team?

1208
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1209
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 3: The concern, Yeah, the biggest question mark with Ben's proposal

1210
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 3: is that Kevin Durant would take the Raptors young guy

1211
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: seriously and like like him more right?

1212
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh. Twitter burner accounts operate different in Canada. They

1213
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 2: they can block his ass from having somehow I don't

1214
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 2: know how, but yeah, I would do it. Yeah, yes, Purtle,

1215
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. He just signed that literally just signed that.

1216
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 3: Extension thirty years old and they traded first round pick

1217
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 3: for him. That's that's a crazy move and that's why

1218
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 3: Masis got a new team.

1219
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: Oh, let's speak.

1220
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: So I didn't sign that extension.

1221
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: Did you do the trade?

1222
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure he did, but he didn't sign that monster,

1223
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 2: monster deal.

1224
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: The Dallas Mavericks have hired Messagerie as their president and

1225
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: alternate governor. Uh Massijery spent twelve years as the Raptors

1226
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: lead basketball executive before agreeing to come to Dallas. Very

1227
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: successful tenure with Toronto, eight playoff appearances and of course,

1228
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: the Raptors title in twenty nineteen. He did speak to

1229
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: the media yesterday TK he was asked about the Luca trade.

1230
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: I thought his response was both honest and hilarious. Is

1231
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: what Messi said. Quote, Luca is a future Hall of Famer.

1232
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: That's the past. In Africa, we say when kings go,

1233
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: kings come, and the king went, we have a little

1234
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: prince here that we're going to turn into a king.

1235
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: We have to start thinking that way here. We can't

1236
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: cry forever. He went on to say end quote Messia Jerry,

1237
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: which I mean, the guy's damn good at a press conference.

1238
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: I'll give him that totally. He's like, good, look it up, fans,

1239
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: that's old.

1240
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: I'm here now.

1241
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 3: We got the little Prince. Definitely call it Cooper fly

1242
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 3: the little Prince. But yeah, I mean cool. I means

1243
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 3: the Mads are ponying up for a big name in

1244
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 3: the front office. Massi did a great job helping build

1245
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 3: a competitive Nuggets team, obviously built a Raptors' championship team,

1246
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 3: and he's got his work cut out for him on

1247
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 3: the Dallas Mavericks because they've got some weird stuff coming up.

1248
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: They did keep their twenty twenty six first rounder by

1249
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: having a poor season this year, trading Anthony Davis at

1250
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 3: the deadline.

1251
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: No Kyrie Irving.

1252
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 3: They also have Okac's twenty twenty six first round pick

1253
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 3: that's number thirty, but at least it's something because they

1254
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 3: do not have control of their twenty seven, twenty eight,

1255
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 3: twenty nine, and thirty first rounders. But they do have

1256
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 3: the Lakers twenty nine and the Warriors thirty, which could

1257
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 3: both be decent depending on how things go for those

1258
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 3: aging squads.

1259
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: Out West.

1260
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean a guy that won a championship,

1261
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 3: that's awesome. Who else would you want to have a

1262
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 3: guy you've never heard of, not if you're the Mavericks.

1263
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, looks one thing he can do

1264
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: is build a strong culture and obviously he has communication

1265
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: skills and you know, I think players and people respect Messiyushieri.

1266
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: There's like this level of commitment. So yeah, this this

1267
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: makes sense as a hiring and I'm sure they paid

1268
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: a lot of money to get him there. I mean,

1269
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of other things going on. He's

1270
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: one of the principal owners of the Toronto Temple, the

1271
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: WNBA team that's going to start on Friday. So yeah,

1272
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: your thoughts on massi Jeri now in control of the Mavericks.

1273
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 2: The guy wants to win championships and that's what he's

1274
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: all about. I loved him building up Cooper Flag. Not

1275
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: only the Prince statement, but he also when talking about

1276
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: how he was approached by Patrick Dumont, he basically said

1277
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 2: he was right for this line. He basically said, look,

1278
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: there's another five to ten years of Shay out there,

1279
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: There's another five to ten years of Luca out there.

1280
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: Five ten years of Anthony Edwards. He shortened it for

1281
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 2: Nikoli Jokic, like, you know, like three to five of him.

1282
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,479
Speaker 2: Whatever he said, he shortened it. But we got Cooper

1283
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: Flag and so he's already building that up, which is

1284
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: fantastic for them. But he only takes that job because

1285
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: there is Cooper Flag there, because there is a potential

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00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 2: for a championship. Of course, the money is a part

1287
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: of it, but he wants to win. He's all about winning.

1288
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: That's all he does. He said to Ramona Shelburne a

1289
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: couple months ago that he wants to win somewhere else

1290
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 2: because the way the Toronto Raptors Championship happened where he

1291
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: confronted that police officer in Golden State's arena before jumping

1292
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: up there on the podium, has left him with the

1293
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: salty taste in his mouth. So there's that. I mean,

1294
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: he needs to celebrate another way, and I think he's

1295
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: going to have the power and authority to do that

1296
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: in Dallas because listening to Mark Cuban, I always wanted

1297
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 2: to hear Mark Cuban and how he regretted the way

1298
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 2: he sold the team to Patrick Dumont. So having listened

1299
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: to all those interviews. He talked about Patrick Dumont and

1300
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: he says, listen, that guy sort of knows that the

1301
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 2: basketball part is above his head. He's trying to learn.

1302
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: And listening to that, I think it's clear Patrick Dumont

1303
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: number one one, had a big name to come, but

1304
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: also somebody that he could assigned to just do the

1305
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: stuff and not be involved, not be a Mark Cuban,

1306
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: And so I think Miside's going to have the authority

1307
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: and the freedom to just let it run. And hearing

1308
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: Tim McMahon, who's very in touch with that, he said

1309
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: the same thing. So Massie's got a great job here

1310
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: and lots of lots of dollars to play with, and

1311
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 2: he'll obviously use those to help out as you mentioned

1312
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: Africa and the philanthropy he does. Sosie likes this job.

1313
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: I think.

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01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: I think by all reports, they were looking for a

1315
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: big name. I think Bob Myers trying to get him

1316
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: sort of out of retirement to maybe run the Mavericks,

1317
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: and then when he said he wasn't going to do that,

1318
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: I think there was talk about Tim connolly, but it's

1319
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: looking more and more likely he's going to stay with

1320
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: Minnesota so I guess you know, as they went down,

1321
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: they're like, well, what about what about MASSI Geril, Let's

1322
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: get him on the horn and talk to him. So

1323
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: he takes this role. I'm interested to see how much

1324
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: Massila does strip this team down and maybe trade away

1325
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: older guys or more vets because you talk about this

1326
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: idea of building around Cooper though Kyrie should return, but like,

1327
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: what about Klay Thompson and PJ. Washington and Gafford and

1328
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: Najie Marshall. Will he try and recoup some assets in

1329
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: potentially moving some of those guys because they don't control

1330
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: a lot of their draft capital in the near future

1331
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: twenty seven to thirty like tre Sid So we'll see, Hey,

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01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: maybe they'll win the number one pick this weekend. Six

1333
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: point seven percent chance, they got a chance, They got

1334
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: a chance, twenty nine percent chance moving in the top

1335
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: four the Maticks have. Maybe Messia will be the good

1336
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: luck charm all right, final piece of news here. The

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01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls have hired Atlanta Hawk's senior vice president Bryson

1338
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: Graham as their new executive VP of basketball operations. Before

1339
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: moving to Atlanta last year, Graham spent fifty fifteen fifty.

1340
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: Graham spent fifteen seasons with the Pelicans, and there he

1341
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: worked his way from an intern all the way up

1342
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: to GM. He had five roles in between. So young guy.

1343
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: I think he's only thirty nine years old. GK your

1344
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: thoughts on on Bryce and Graham balls are back, just

1345
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: like that, Just like that.

1346
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 3: Ye like it?

1347
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: You hire an unknown GM, I gotta support it. Who knows?

1348
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right?

1349
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,919
Speaker 1: Like this guy, you're like, you're saying his career path

1350
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: is pretty crazy.

1351
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 3: He started as an intern and worked his way up

1352
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 3: to being the lead decision maker for an NBA team.

1353
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: You know, they say he's a good scout. He's outside of.

1354
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 3: The Bulls family. These are two things I like. These

1355
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 3: are two things I liked about our tourist cartnership US

1356
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 3: as well. That didn't go so well, but you know, cool.

1357
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 3: They got a new guy and he's got a lot

1358
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 3: of work to do. First order of business, win the

1359
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 3: draft lottery on what kind of luck you got Bryson?

1360
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 3: Second higher coach. Both do not have a coach right now.

1361
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 3: Sam Amick reporting to Tom Thibodeaux, interested in a return

1362
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 3: to Chicago. Hello, he's one of the top two Bulls

1363
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: coaches of all time. I don't know if they'll be

1364
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 3: the guy. I think they should go with the younger guy.

1365
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 3: And the roster is a very very blank slave.

1366
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: Who do you have?

1367
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 3: You have?

1368
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: Bill? Of course?

1369
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 3: Yep, and is now apparently seven feet tall. The French

1370
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: Gian is confirmed. They also got two first rounders. They

1371
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 3: got sixty million dollars in cap space. Sounds like this

1372
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 3: is a team that might have Grady Dick on the roster.

1373
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 3: You want to offload a Dick, send him to Chicago,

1374
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. Until he messes up.

1375
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: I like it.

1376
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: Anything, Dad, not much.

1377
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 2: He has draft history. As you said, there's two picks

1378
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: in this first round, you know, one sort of a

1379
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 2: teen pick. I think that second was like fifteen. So

1380
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: he did really well in New Orleans for those deeper picks. Yeah,

1381
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: like Dyson Daniels.

1382
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: I was gonna say his drafting track record is Trey

1383
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: Murphy the third drafted seventeenth, Herbert Jones drafted thirty fifth,

1384
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: Dyson Daniels that's more of a top ten pick. I

1385
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: think he went eighth, and then Nikhil Alexander Walker went seventeenth,

1386
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: So that is good. Those are two mips right there,

1387
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: back to back and obviously some talented guys ahead of

1388
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: them as well.

1389
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that fifteen pick, you'll get more of a

1390
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 2: Dyson Daniels I think in this draft in that it's

1391
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: very top heavy. You know, somebody's not a Polish player. Anyway.

1392
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: If Auntie Sale here in Atlanta plucked Bryce and Graham

1393
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: to bring him here, that's a good sign. Okay, Ancey

1394
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: Sally knows what he's doing. I like that.

1395
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 3: It's too bad that the Bulls didn't hire him last

1396
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 3: summer because Graham is apparently the guy who realized how

1397
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 3: good the Pelicans pick could be. That they were offering

1398
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 3: it unprotected, and allegedly they offered it to the Bulls

1399
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 3: as well, and they're like, I don't know, I don't

1400
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 3: know how that would work.

1401
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: He knew how it worked.

1402
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: It worked pretty good at this point.

1403
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 3: Well see, I mean, when the Bulls get the number

1404
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 3: one pick, it won't look quite as good for the Hawks,

1405
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 3: but still, well, he comes to it. It's honestly time

1406
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 3: to rig it for They brigged it for so many

1407
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 3: other teams.

1408
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: You already had it rig for you once exactly, but

1409
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: that was ago. Yeah, they had a chance. He blew

1410
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,479
Speaker 1: out his knee. Now it's time to rig it again.

1411
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: That's the wheel in tray Herby's mind. The bulls fair enough,

1412
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. I can't believe that's this weekend

1413
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: stuck up on me. Yeah, on a Sunday?

1414
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 2: Is that normally?

1415
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: I think it isn't a Tuesday.

1416
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe used to be Tuesday.

1417
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: I feel like we've had it Sunday though, too.

1418
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: Was it last year when they changed it? Maybe they

1419
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: do think, I do think they changed.

1420
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: Are we doing any sort of predictions? I know last

1421
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: year we did pick a ball. Oh that was awesome. Yeah,

1422
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: it was good. Pick a ball, shot the twilet. Yeah,

1423
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: we were wrong. I think we had the I think

1424
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: the jazz ball was hit up. I remember correctly. They

1425
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: did not win the number one pick. So don't family

1426
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: has a suggestion for how we should try and predict

1427
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: the draft lottery by basically tomorrow or Friday, let us

1428
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: know otherwise, I don't know. We'll just guess.

1429
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: Just live stream, just livestream reactions. The internet just wants reactions.

1430
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 2: Just put on the cameras, just a ah, there you

1431
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: just did. You're right.

1432
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: Just clip that, play it, clip that, and post it

1433
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: immediately after the number one pick is announced, you go

1434
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: and do it.

1435
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: That clicks John Brown's all you got to do. Just

1436
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 2: go on your twitch and just yell.

1437
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: Let's react.

1438
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: React.

1439
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that team just won the number one pick.

1440
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, rigged there, that's mine.

1441
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 2: Good one, good one.

1442
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: You do yours now first there done. Everybody takes Sunday off,

1443
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: so he just future posts that by the time they

1444
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: announce it. Let's just record one for every team and that.

1445
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's good. Roll it out. We'll send all

1446
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: the other ones overseas to somebody. Let's go, that's a

1447
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: great idea.

1448
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 2: Let's don't even have Why wouldn't we just save it

1449
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 2: for next year?

1450
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why why wouldn't we just record us? I think

1451
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers are going to win this draft lottery.

1452
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: They are due to win. Like, we should do it

1453
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: for every team and then we can do the Oh

1454
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: my god, we called it right. Lots of ideas here

1455
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:43,200
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01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: chet Holmgren gets will Boy team high twenty four points

1473
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: in Game one's victory, nine to seventeen from the field,

1474
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: hit both of his threes, only took two, splashed him both,

1475
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: hit all of his free throws, twelve boards, one assists,

1476
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: one steal, three blocks in thirty one minutes. For check,

1477
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: that is his name? Apparently his name is not Chester.

1478
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: I select to ask are you a chesswack? Okay, Andrew

1479
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: schleckt find out because we have for some reason been

1480
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: talking about this here in the office a lot. Is

1481
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: his name just Chet and not Chester like many other Chets.

1482
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 3: Every other NBA chat is a Chester. So it's crazy

1483
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 3: Chet a Chester as well as he a crazy Chester.

1484
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: Let us know. But I like this photo you chose

1485
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: up in.

1486
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 3: He's got a very like playful look on his face,

1487
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 3: and I thought Chet was like surprisingly giddy last night.

1488
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: He was smiling a lot.

1489
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 3: He was laughing with Shay Yill just Alexander, like you're saying,

1490
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 3: Skeets not a lot of sweat for the thunder with

1491
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 3: regards to the Lakers, and it really showed on Chest's face.

1492
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 1: They started Round two this year better than last year.

1493
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: They lost Game one to the Nuggets. Okay, of course

1494
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: different teams here and the Nuggets and Lakers, But yeah,

1495
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: got the streak still going five and oh here in

1496
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 1: the postseason so far. All right, Two more games on

1497
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: tonight six Ers Nicks seven pm start, Timberwolf Spurs nine

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Speaker 1: to thirty pm start. Look at that they can do it.

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Speaker 1: Not much overlapped their tests. By the time that second

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Speaker 1: game starts, that first one should be over. Yeah, any

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Speaker 1: predictions here tonight, guys, do you see the Knicks and

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Speaker 1: or Wolves extending their lead to two to zero in

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Speaker 1: the series, or any of these series being tied up?

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Speaker 1: Which one more likely? I guess you're I assume you're

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Speaker 1: gonna go san Antonio.

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Speaker 2: But I assume so. I assume san Antonio will play better.

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Speaker 2: I assume Wemby will play better. I assume Daron Fox

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Speaker 2: will play better. So there's that. We shall We shall

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Speaker 2: see how Chris Finch plays at all. I assume I

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Speaker 2: would assume it will also be out. I assume that

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Speaker 2: going into the fourth quarter, Chris Finch will play it

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Speaker 2: potentially the same with Rudy sitting primarily in the fourth

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Speaker 2: quarter to try and get Wemby having to move all

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Speaker 2: over defensively. It's a great question. This is a very

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Speaker 2: important basketball game. But at the same time, Anton Edward,

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Speaker 2: who had eleven in the fourth quarter, was really great

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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, could have a better game.

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Speaker 1: QUI game, QUI game limited minutes of course, Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: that gets ramped up here a bit. We'll see. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna be tough. I mean it feels, yeah, you don't

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Speaker 1: want to go down two. Oh. Well, with both games

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Speaker 1: at home, you do not know out against a very

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Speaker 1: good Wolf team and their thoughts on the Knick sixers

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Speaker 1: or that one.

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Speaker 3: I think the Knicks still win. But we have a

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Speaker 3: real game today between these two teams. Better effort from Philadelphia,

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Speaker 3: I have to expect.

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Speaker 1: You don't think the nixt extend their streak of crushing

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Speaker 1: teams by twenty five plus continues. This one's under twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, all right, Well, those are on tonight.

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Speaker 1: We will be back tomorrow to break them down. New

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Speaker 1: anonymous player poll dropped down the Athletic might talk about

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Speaker 1: that tomorrow. Call it out underrated and overrated players and

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Speaker 1: good coaches and bad coaches. I think there's some spicy

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Speaker 1: things in there to sink our teeth into. And if

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Speaker 1: you have an idea of how you want us to

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Speaker 1: try and predict the NBA Draft Lottery, which is this weekend,

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Speaker 1: let us know. If it's not too too intense, we

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Speaker 1: can maybe pull it off here. And I don't want

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Speaker 1: to hear the moving pieces. The King's no way, yeah,

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Speaker 1: or we just do what we said yeah, or we

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Speaker 1: just hit tankathon, we just do one little I'll give

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Speaker 1: you a spin real quick right here. Okay, just a

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Speaker 1: quick spin the kings away.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, congrats to the King. Waity to go and do

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Speaker 1: some mo king went in the dry off lottery. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you guys tomorrow. Until the end, Clipper bros. You

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Speaker 1: heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 1: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us and remember see you next time.

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Speaker 1: Praise the name people,