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Speaker 1: tis twenty Bay today and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback,
Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's. It's a
Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys from the SWBC Mortgage studios
Speaker 1: here at the Star in Frisco. It is the morning
Speaker 1: after a thirty four seventeen loss at the hands of
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. The Cowboys now at three and nine
Speaker 1: on the twenty twenty season, and all of our weekly
Speaker 1: routines and schedules are also It's a messed up because
Speaker 1: we had Tuesday Night football, but hey, we've got three
Speaker 1: days to put this one in the rearview mirror and
Speaker 1: get ready for the battle for Pina Seul, a battle
Speaker 1: for the third overall pick going into this weekend with
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals coming to town. Kyle Yeoman's alongside Isaiah Standback,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and heck My Harrison, We're gonna break things
Speaker 1: down for you as to what happened in that Ravens game.
Speaker 1: But first I want to give a little credit where
Speaker 1: credit is due and start off with some positivity this
Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. Isaiah Standback made a call the other day,
Speaker 1: and I just want to get this out of the
Speaker 1: way early. I'm bringing positivity, but also I just don't
Speaker 1: want to hear it all show long, so I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna attack it up front, Rob and Heckma. But Isaiah
Speaker 1: came out and said thirty four seventeen was his prediction
Speaker 1: and the final score. He used those Laura lenses to
Speaker 1: look ahead and see exactly what was going on. So Isaiah,
Speaker 1: you've got ten seconds to gloat starting now. I just
Speaker 1: want to thank my support system, you know, Kyle, Rob Pie,
Speaker 1: you know, saying hey, I appreciate you guys for being
Speaker 1: here for me. You know, I think to my sponsor,
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Speaker 1: now that we've got that out of the way, I
Speaker 1: wanted to get that out of the way, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: losing thirty four seventeen. But the point of the matter
Speaker 1: is is this really anything other than what we expected?
Speaker 1: And I think that's the most frustrating part about this
Speaker 1: loss is that it's pretty much exactly what we expected.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you look at it
Speaker 1: and you say, all right, Mike McCarthy, all right, Cowboys,
Speaker 1: even though you're banged up, I want to see what
Speaker 1: you've got. I want to see some sort of energy.
Speaker 1: I want to see some sort of execution, because I
Speaker 1: think that was the word of the day, rob But
Speaker 1: whenever you look back at this game, mister Phillips, how
Speaker 1: do you categorize it for the Dallas Cowboys? Because I
Speaker 1: thought it was frustrating and I thought it was just
Speaker 1: a poor lack of execution all the way through. Can
Speaker 1: I throw out one more positivity before we get to
Speaker 1: all the negativity? Why not? Reddy Robinson was active? Man,
Speaker 1: he was active. He had three snaps special team snapps.
Speaker 1: All right, we got that. Okay, now onto the bad stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I would say I was surprised about the
Speaker 1: run defense, and maybe we shouldn't be, but I I
Speaker 1: thought they had turned a corner in terms of let's
Speaker 1: not allow three hundred yards rushing in a game anymore.
Speaker 1: That that was a repeat of Cleveland a few weeks back.
Speaker 1: I thought they turned a corner. Turned out that corner
Speaker 1: is like a cul de sac where you kind of
Speaker 1: just do a right back to where you were, and uh,
Speaker 1: that's that's where we are at three and nined. And
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Irvan's on the NFL network this morning
Speaker 1: saying it's over. Math says it's not over. But it
Speaker 1: felt like that, like, you know, psychologically, you're down basically
Speaker 1: two and a half three games to Washington with four
Speaker 1: to play, and if this was the game that cost
Speaker 1: them a chance of the division, it's the type of
Speaker 1: game they've had for most of the season where you
Speaker 1: can't stop the run, you beat yourself with turnovers, you
Speaker 1: allow points off turnovers. They're up to one twenty points
Speaker 1: off turnovers allowed this season, and uh, you know, to me,
Speaker 1: it was just representative of a lot of the losses
Speaker 1: they had. I didn't expect it to be this bad
Speaker 1: defensively after some strides they made, but there it was there.
Speaker 1: It was Lamar Jackson did his thing the Kota second right.
Speaker 1: You might like, No, I didn't like that, like a
Speaker 1: little round about I like that. I like that with
Speaker 1: a lot. Uh yeah, no, I mean Rogers hit it.
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are they are what we thought
Speaker 1: they were. Unfortunately, we knew Baltimore was a strong team.
Speaker 1: We knew Baltimore had all their dogs back, you know,
Speaker 1: fresh legs, you know, twelve days off, whatever it may be,
Speaker 1: for majority of their premier players. Come to find out
Speaker 1: it wasn't even their premier players that killed us. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know, these guys are just a better team than us.
Speaker 1: I don't think any of us, I know, none of
Speaker 1: any of us. None of us projected the Cowboys to
Speaker 1: win this game, unfortunately. But you know, we're realists on
Speaker 1: this show. We don't we don't say what feels good.
Speaker 1: We say what it is. And that's what it was,
Speaker 1: you know, thirty four seventeen. I honestly thought that it
Speaker 1: should have been a larger margin. You know, I felt
Speaker 1: like that was gonna be the final score, obviously because
Speaker 1: I guessed it, but I thought it should have been
Speaker 1: a larger margin based upon how the game flowed. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, the missfield goals unacceptable, just unacceptable. I mean,
Speaker 1: we were in position to to be in the game, honestly,
Speaker 1: and that just killed your drives m. Defensive, you know,
Speaker 1: run defense just not there. We haven't seen it all
Speaker 1: year long. I think it might have been one game
Speaker 1: where we felt somewhat good about it, and this team
Speaker 1: just just lacks confidence. That one of the one positive though,
Speaker 1: I know we said the one positive already. Any Dalton
Speaker 1: played the heck of a game. Any Dalton played the
Speaker 1: heck of a game. Any Dalton looked like any likes
Speaker 1: look like any Dalton and I was boasted about as
Speaker 1: soon as he got got in the game. But you know,
Speaker 1: he was throwing that thing around. I think he threw
Speaker 1: it over eight I think by eight receivers in the
Speaker 1: first half of eight different guys. I mean, so, I
Speaker 1: mean he looked confident and he was rolling the interception.
Speaker 1: It was just a heck of a play. It happens
Speaker 1: tip ball m. But that's the one positive thing. But
Speaker 1: everything else, man, the officsive line played pretty well, you know,
Speaker 1: officsive line played pretty well. I mean they didn't have
Speaker 1: any pressure with all these guys on their defensive line
Speaker 1: that they have over there in Baltimore, So there were
Speaker 1: there were definitely some positives. But Baltimore is just a
Speaker 1: much better team than we are. You guys are so nice.
Speaker 1: Um uh uh. This game, this game was a complete embarrassment,
Speaker 1: uh for for our defense when you go into the game,
Speaker 1: and we talked about this all week leading up to
Speaker 1: to this game, knowing what the Baltimore Ravens were going
Speaker 1: to bring to the table, a running game. They had
Speaker 1: no other choice even if they started their backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: They had a running game that they were going to
Speaker 1: bring to the stadium. What did we do to all
Speaker 1: week scheme wise to stop the run? We did nothing.
Speaker 1: This is the same two hundred and ninety four yards
Speaker 1: is unacceptable for a three hansion stop. I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: that they were six yards away from hitting that mark.
Speaker 1: But there you are, Isaiah. I mean, it's dog it's embarrassing.
Speaker 1: It's embarrassing to see that. And then they put up
Speaker 1: the graphic of Jalen standing there, you know, got his
Speaker 1: arms all shaped butter down, and they got the number
Speaker 1: thirty two thirty two, thirty two thirty two. I can
Speaker 1: guess that that's last NFL. Okay, there's only thirty two
Speaker 1: teams in the league, Thank you very much, But do
Speaker 1: you have to show us like that? And then they
Speaker 1: cut right before they go to a commercial break and
Speaker 1: they show our sideline with our dB sitting there. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is it's embarrassing to see, but it's also embarrassing
Speaker 1: to see these guys just completely quit on themselves be
Speaker 1: in a position to win the game. Third down, third
Speaker 1: and ten, third and seven, you can get off the field,
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson it's just like, oh, oh, you're gonna
Speaker 1: give me that. I'll take those fourteen yards for a
Speaker 1: first down, Thank you very much, Cowboys. And on that touchdown, guys,
Speaker 1: that Lamar Jackson the thirty seven yard he could have
Speaker 1: hit his head on the goal post twice. What how
Speaker 1: how do you how do you prepare a team that
Speaker 1: goes into a game they completely just with the band.
Speaker 1: There's there's no leadership, there's the come on, man, come on,
Speaker 1: give you what that you mentioned? I mean that set
Speaker 1: the tone. The thirty seven yard touchdown by Lamar set
Speaker 1: the tone. But what I kept thinking about was there
Speaker 1: was more than one play like that where nobody's around him.
Speaker 1: I think the boy can touchdown as well. And what
Speaker 1: I kept thinking was in the Seattle game in Week three,
Speaker 1: everybody was just astonished by it and and like my god,
Speaker 1: I can't believe guys are run and wide open free,
Speaker 1: and it's reached a point this season where like you
Speaker 1: just kind of not expected, but it doesn't surprise you
Speaker 1: when it happens these bus, whether it's the run game
Speaker 1: or the pass game. It's been all year long, just
Speaker 1: about every game, there's been at least one of those,
Speaker 1: and I mean it does. It takes away everything they
Speaker 1: did in the first half. I think Baltimore was only
Speaker 1: one of five on third down, Like that's pretty good
Speaker 1: for your defense, but when you're given up four plays
Speaker 1: of thirty plus yards, it doesn't matter, you know. And
Speaker 1: that's been the story all year long. I kind of
Speaker 1: want to go into that that thirty seven yard touchdown
Speaker 1: run because there was so much frustration with it. It
Speaker 1: looked like a Madden glitch, like it really did. It
Speaker 1: looked like a Madden glitch where it's just wide open
Speaker 1: spaces in between the hash marks, and Lamar Jackson takes
Speaker 1: it for thirty seven yards, by the way, longest touchdown
Speaker 1: run I think for a quarterback in Cowboys history. But
Speaker 1: you kind of compound that with the fact that you
Speaker 1: have two hundred and ninety four total yards one hundred
Speaker 1: and one of those coming from Gus Edwards mark Ingram,
Speaker 1: not JK. Dobbins. Gus Edwards went seven of one oh one. So,
Speaker 1: like Rob said, exactly, it's Gus Edwards. He's on the
Speaker 1: bench of every fantasy team in the world because JK.
Speaker 1: Dobbins and mark Ingram could have potentially been out this week.
Speaker 1: That's the only reason people know who this guy is.
Speaker 1: And he goes for one hundred and one yards against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but big plays continue to gash at Isaiah.
Speaker 1: Why was that the case? And why can't the Cowboys
Speaker 1: somehow stop the run because it looked like they could
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago against Pittsburgh and Philly. Well,
Speaker 1: I think I had my slors on last week on
Speaker 1: the show as well, whenever I talked about the misdirection
Speaker 1: and how misdirection kills this defense, the Cowboys defense, especially
Speaker 1: at a second level. Who that's your that's your job
Speaker 1: is to be able to control that aspect of the game.
Speaker 1: These guys get confused, they get days, they confused. Obviously, specifically,
Speaker 1: you know lbe and Jalen Smith, those are the two
Speaker 1: guys that are in the game for the most part,
Speaker 1: all the time, and Lbe, I think he came in
Speaker 1: the post game and admitted it. You know that that
Speaker 1: he screwed up. I mean, he was completely lost. He
Speaker 1: took a bad step. He totally consumed himself on the
Speaker 1: offensive line, Um with with the offensive alignement or actually
Speaker 1: in the back of his defensive line to the point
Speaker 1: where he couldn't see Um. And at the corner, at
Speaker 1: the corner of his eye, he saw his guy, his responsibility,
Speaker 1: running back go the opposite direction. So what does he do. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna follow him. I don't know where the ball
Speaker 1: is at, but I'm following this guy. And then he's
Speaker 1: literally running away from the ball. Um he realizes it's
Speaker 1: too late, and you know, you got one of the
Speaker 1: fastest guys in the league running with the ball down
Speaker 1: the middle. Um, this defense continues to get gashed. There's
Speaker 1: no there's no solid answer asida from the fact that
Speaker 1: you have to point to the coaches. Um, it's not
Speaker 1: just the coaches. Don't let me. Don't be bamboozled by
Speaker 1: what I'm telling you. It's not just the coaches, but
Speaker 1: it definitely starts with the coaches, and they have to
Speaker 1: instill some form of what we always talk about culture
Speaker 1: within this defense, and if guys are not getting get
Speaker 1: done again, I already alluded to it, if Lvee, if
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, if these guys are getting done, then go
Speaker 1: find some other dudes that are hungry. They want to
Speaker 1: do it because you did the same thing with the
Speaker 1: defensive line. You got rid of Polled, you got rid
Speaker 1: of a Griffin, right, But all of a sudden, now
Speaker 1: these linebackers, oh, these are guys. He were committed to.
Speaker 1: These guys. If they're not figuring it out, fellas, make
Speaker 1: it competitive. I don't give a dog on what I'm
Speaker 1: paying you. Carson Bey sure don't care what Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: is getting paid over in Philly, right, sit his butt down,
Speaker 1: Get somebody else in there that's going to compete. And
Speaker 1: that's what they need to happen on this defense, and
Speaker 1: that's the only way that they're going to find a
Speaker 1: resolution in these last four games. Hey asaid, we talked
Speaker 1: at halftime about that play, and I think vander Esch
Speaker 1: said after the game too, he thought Lamar handed the
Speaker 1: ball off and that's where he was going. He just
Speaker 1: read the play completely wrong, you thought, And I think
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy spoke it after the game that they were
Speaker 1: in the right play to stop it. You said at
Speaker 1: halftime you didn't really have a problem with the way
Speaker 1: they were they were lined up, even though they went nickel.
Speaker 1: They had they had I believe Darian Thompson as a
Speaker 1: safety in that situation. So you were okay with that
Speaker 1: look though. I was okay with that look, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't okay with the actual call. Right. I was okay
Speaker 1: with the alignment at guys. I was okay. I was
Speaker 1: okay with the personnel. But one thing you don't do,
Speaker 1: and I talked to you about it a hand of time,
Speaker 1: is you know I was a quote unquote running quarterback. Right,
Speaker 1: I was a running quarterback, so I faced similar defenses
Speaker 1: a lot, and teams had to scheme against me, had
Speaker 1: a scheme against other guys. Right, Um that they had
Speaker 1: those same kind of assets in terms of the ability
Speaker 1: to run. And what happens is they went man to man.
Speaker 1: And when you go man to man against a quarterback
Speaker 1: who can gash you with that kind of speed, you
Speaker 1: have to have two guys spying. You cannot spy a
Speaker 1: running quarterback, a quarterback that has four three speed like
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Okay, you can't spy him with one person.
Speaker 1: The reason why because the first person is never going
Speaker 1: to make the play on him, never a right Harley
Speaker 1: ever with the one guy to make the play on him.
Speaker 1: So what do you have to do. You have to
Speaker 1: spy with two guys, and you have to trust that
Speaker 1: the rest of the guys on your defense and your
Speaker 1: secondary can guard these the rest of their receivers and
Speaker 1: tire the ends and running backs, and you just have
Speaker 1: to trust that. But the moment that you'd say, one guy,
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Thompson, I don't care if
Speaker 1: it's l Ve whoever. It is the moment that you say,
Speaker 1: you know what he got he has Lamar, You're kidding yourself.
Speaker 1: You're completely kidding yourself. And you saw that happen right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a problem with that. I have a problem
Speaker 1: when you go man in the situation like that, knowing
Speaker 1: that Lamar Jackson wants to tuck and run it. And
Speaker 1: if you're gonna have Darian Thompson up at the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage or in a linebacker set, at least give
Speaker 1: him an opportunity, give himself an opportunity to make a
Speaker 1: play on the ball. This guy doesn't know when he
Speaker 1: is in that position. It is a fatal flaw for
Speaker 1: our defense because he can't jam, He can't do anything
Speaker 1: as far as stopping offensive lineman from getting on him
Speaker 1: and pushing him out of the way, and obviously lvee
Speaker 1: when he makes that many false steps, there's no way
Speaker 1: that he can recover from that, whether it's defensive lineman
Speaker 1: in this face or not. But you talk about the
Speaker 1: miscommunication on the backside for the defense, just look no
Speaker 1: further than the mouse bnken thirty eight yard touchdown. Are
Speaker 1: we in zone? Are we in? Man? What are we in?
Speaker 1: Because a guy should not be able to go across
Speaker 1: the backside of your defense that easily untouched and there
Speaker 1: are no cowboys even in the vicinity to stop it.
Speaker 1: So I mean, defensively, man, we're lost all over the place.
Speaker 1: And I don't understand that. You know, it's enough to
Speaker 1: keep talking about scheme, but I just don't understand what
Speaker 1: it is that we're trying to accomplish on defense. Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy said after the game, Hack like, we're we're past
Speaker 1: talking about scheme. You know. I don't blame him, you know,
Speaker 1: And I mean he wasn't taking a shot at the players,
Speaker 1: But what he didn't that question was about, you know,
Speaker 1: where are you with your scheme this late in the season.
Speaker 1: And it's He's right, like, you can't talk about, oh,
Speaker 1: we didn't have an off season when you're you know,
Speaker 1: it's two weeks to Christmas. Yep, I mean it's too
Speaker 1: late for that. How does that still make sense? Though? Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing is why is there still
Speaker 1: these kinds of lapses of breakdowns? And I know, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: you said you don't want to blame it on the
Speaker 1: coaching staff. Ultimately it comes down to the players. But
Speaker 1: there's got to be a little bit for the coaching
Speaker 1: staff of that blame to be placed on him. Right, No, absolutely, no,
Speaker 1: nobody is is exempt from fault here. Um, the guys
Speaker 1: that call the players, the guys that run the plays.
Speaker 1: At some point in time, you have to go out
Speaker 1: there and take over no matter what position you're playing
Speaker 1: in this organization, and we're not seeing any of it.
Speaker 1: We're not seeing much ownership. I think Lbe stepped up
Speaker 1: and obviously took some ownership there, but the guys just
Speaker 1: it's not good. It said, you know, we can talk
Speaker 1: about it to we're blue the face. It's just not good.
Speaker 1: That defensive coordinator doesn't need to be here. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm not wanting to call for a man a man's job,
Speaker 1: but this is not it. You know, maybe there's a
Speaker 1: reason why he why he wasn't on a you know,
Speaker 1: on a coaching staff. He's this scheme is not working. Um,
Speaker 1: you know he's he's he's made alterations to this scheme.
Speaker 1: You know, with personnel changes. Guess what it is still
Speaker 1: not working. Um. And you could look at the players
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, they need to be barried or better,
Speaker 1: but guess what whose jobs are to ensure that they're better?
Speaker 1: Is your job? So you know, somebody has to make
Speaker 1: some move, whether it's players or or coaches. Um. But
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some moving, some moving other chairs. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can almost guarantee that following the season, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of changes with the personnel. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of free agents in the secondary
Speaker 1: and don't I mean, you can't rebuild entirely through the
Speaker 1: draft this year. But it's there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of changes on defense, There's no question about it. And
Speaker 1: you know, the other thing too, is and Jerry was
Speaker 1: asked about this on the Fan the Morning yesterday morning
Speaker 1: about you know, two teams in your division that are
Speaker 1: leading the division right now, Washington and New York have
Speaker 1: new coaching staffs and and he said, it's fair to compare.
Speaker 1: You know, those teams are really or being led by
Speaker 1: their defenses. So at this point you ought to be
Speaker 1: talking about progress, even though I think personnel wise they
Speaker 1: don't have the personnel, certainly at Washington does. But you
Speaker 1: should be talking about progress. And we were for a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but it was like they took five
Speaker 1: steps back last night. It's just there's a lot to
Speaker 1: go to or whenever it comes to that defense, I mean,
Speaker 1: you could talk about the secondary, you could talk about
Speaker 1: the front seven. Honestly, I thought we saw we saw
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle worse than than Dontaripo for the first
Speaker 1: time all year, and he was wearing his number. And
Speaker 1: I want to talk about that when we come back
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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Second segment here of Talking Cowboys the Wednesday
Speaker 1: after a Cowboys thirty four to seventeen lost to the
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Speaker 1: that that Isaiah standback sponsorship. So yesterday was the second
Speaker 1: time that a NFL team has rushed for over two
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety yards this season. Out of the two
Speaker 1: hundred games that have been played in the NFL, it's
Speaker 1: only happened twice. What anybody like to take just to
Speaker 1: go out on a limb here and talk about who
Speaker 1: the defense was in both of those games. Oh wait,
Speaker 1: it's to Dallas Cowboys. The three hundred and seven yards
Speaker 1: against Cleveland in Week four, two hundred and ninety four
Speaker 1: on Wednesday against the Baltimore Ravens. That's where we stand
Speaker 1: in terms of the rush defense, and at first it
Speaker 1: was the defensive struggles. Is it fair to say that
Speaker 1: we that we got better, oh Man silver Linings, I
Speaker 1: like it. Hey, our defense got better, man, I mean
Speaker 1: just six? But well, well yeah six? Three? Okay, Well jokingly,
Speaker 1: I know you're saying that jokingly, but I do want
Speaker 1: to ask this question, Isaiah, and I'll start with you
Speaker 1: on this, since you're so eager to talk about it.
Speaker 1: But we're the Cowboys defense better against teams like Philly
Speaker 1: or Pittsburgh or did Pittsburgh just not want to run
Speaker 1: the ball? And it's Philly just downright terrible and they
Speaker 1: gave us a sense of false hope before you get
Speaker 1: gashed by Minnesota and then you get gashed by Washington
Speaker 1: and then again last night by Baltimore. Yeah, Philly is
Speaker 1: just not a good team. In Pittsburgh is no longer
Speaker 1: a running team, nor did they did they show up
Speaker 1: to play that day? So there's your two answers. That is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh just is a running period. I mean, and you
Speaker 1: saw that, and they're lost to the football team. They
Speaker 1: can't they can't run the ball. I think they finished
Speaker 1: that game with like twenty thirty yards rushing UM and
Speaker 1: and so yeah, and Philly, Philly is just a dumpster
Speaker 1: fire in the nfcas just like us. So that's just
Speaker 1: what it is. Defensively, man, we don't we don't have it.
Speaker 1: I mean when a guy like Gus Edwards, who no
Speaker 1: one had on the radar to do what he did.
Speaker 1: And Isaiah made a point before the show about the
Speaker 1: Cleveland game and it was their third string running back
Speaker 1: that gashed us as well. And so it seems like
Speaker 1: we are we are we make you better. We are
Speaker 1: the RNs, we are the RX. If you have a problem,
Speaker 1: yes it is. And so we're like ELpH on the
Speaker 1: shelf for your running game you need it, we can
Speaker 1: give it to you. I think we talked about Baltimore
Speaker 1: coming into this game and all the problems that they
Speaker 1: were having on offense rolling, and it's what he's trying
Speaker 1: to change, um, trying to change what Lamar jack doesn't.
Speaker 1: You saw this game. Lamar Jackson really needs to work
Speaker 1: on this mechanics because a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: those balls sailed on him in the one and that
Speaker 1: one throw, and I think even Xavier Woods didn't even
Speaker 1: know how to attack it, which was one of the
Speaker 1: most awkward safety closings that I've seen in a while.
Speaker 1: But you know, I just think that defensively, you knew
Speaker 1: that this running game was going to present a challenge,
Speaker 1: and they just kept doing they can't. They stayed true
Speaker 1: to it. I think Lamar Jackson finished with what one
Speaker 1: hundred and one yards passing, So that's I mean, those
Speaker 1: are the kind of statistics that we're gonna get versus
Speaker 1: teams next week when we go to Cincinnati. They're gonna
Speaker 1: do the same thing. They're gonna load up. They gotta
Speaker 1: run that thing. You know, why what, why would you
Speaker 1: have any other game playing versus the Dallas Cowboys. I
Speaker 1: just googled the slogan we make you Better to see
Speaker 1: if I thought it maybe a company had that title
Speaker 1: slogan and I could I couldn't find it, but we
Speaker 1: can trade market. Yeah, I think it's trademarked by some
Speaker 1: elevator company. Unfortunately, anyway, the run defense, like I think
Speaker 1: you guys are right, Like, you know, looking back maybe
Speaker 1: it was fool's gold, but I didn't think in those
Speaker 1: games they were better just alignment wise. Assignment wise, because
Speaker 1: you know, some of the runs that the Ravens had
Speaker 1: last night nothing special. You know, they just didn't they
Speaker 1: didn't diagnose it right, they didn't make the play, you know.
Speaker 1: I think I think it was the drive after Lamar's
Speaker 1: big touchdown early it was Gus Edwards for thirty six yards,
Speaker 1: and it was just kind of what we saw early
Speaker 1: in the season, where you know, off the line just
Speaker 1: getting pushed out of the way and creating a crease.
Speaker 1: And that's all it was, you know, just kind of
Speaker 1: simple and and so they reverted back to that, right
Speaker 1: Am I the only one that thinks that we ran
Speaker 1: the ball well with Zeke last night? Yeah? I thought so.
Speaker 1: I thought he ran really good early and he more
Speaker 1: just took it out his hands, right. Yeah. He kind
Speaker 1: of went to Pollard after that, which surprised me. Um.
Speaker 1: I give Kellen credit for like trying to stick to
Speaker 1: the run he got. He went past a couple of
Speaker 1: times where I thought, okay, just stick with it. But
Speaker 1: that's funny you brought that up, isaih, Because I was
Speaker 1: gonna say that at the top of the show. Like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys plan offensively was to shorten the game and
Speaker 1: try to uh, you know, help the defense, keep the
Speaker 1: defense off the field, you know, and and for large stretches.
Speaker 1: I mean they were able to do that. You know,
Speaker 1: they were able to move the ball. I forget what
Speaker 1: the time of possession was they won. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they've won. I don't know if they've won time
Speaker 1: of possession all year long. Maybe a couple of times. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know that that game plan doesn't work when
Speaker 1: your defense can't stop anything in the run game. And
Speaker 1: that's that's the story of the game, story of the
Speaker 1: season for a lot of these games. Now, yeah, go
Speaker 1: for it to heck one, no, you know, it's pedestrian.
Speaker 1: And we got to the point and you know, trying
Speaker 1: to run the ball, and I talked about it just
Speaker 1: you know, some of the weird calls that that Kellen
Speaker 1: was making. He came into this, and I thought that
Speaker 1: it was really vanilla. He didn't get into anything weird.
Speaker 1: But towards the end of the game, we just became predictable.
Speaker 1: And that's what happens when you get down by that
Speaker 1: many points. But I thought that Zeke was giving us
Speaker 1: a lot in the running game, but they tried to
Speaker 1: do the thunder and lightning tandem of those two and
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't blame him for that. I just
Speaker 1: think that once Zeke starts to get on the roll
Speaker 1: and he has a hot end, stay with him, don't stop,
Speaker 1: you know, get keep getting him that because statistics show
Speaker 1: that once he has those carris and he gets over
Speaker 1: one hundred yards, the Cowboys typically win. And so you know, look,
Speaker 1: you said it to Isaiah that Tony Pollard had to
Speaker 1: have a good game, and for a lot of those
Speaker 1: stretches he was getting us some chunk yards. But you know,
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is that kind of running back where he'll
Speaker 1: go negative two, negative three and then get your seven.
Speaker 1: You know. So we just were not in the position
Speaker 1: last night to have that kind of flow be you know,
Speaker 1: the defense disrupt our flow that way, and it happened
Speaker 1: a lot to us where we were behind his third
Speaker 1: and fifteen and penalties at that just took us out
Speaker 1: of any kind of rhythm offensively, are you right? I mean,
Speaker 1: but Zeke was getting four point three yards per carry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: four point three yards per carry. Ninety million dollar Man
Speaker 1: and you take it out of his hands. Why I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised, you know, and there was a play
Speaker 1: in this I was gonna say, I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys show or if Ezekiel Elliott shows up
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys injury report this week with maybe like
Speaker 1: a nagging thing, something that kept him out for a
Speaker 1: bit of for just a bit of time. It's easier
Speaker 1: to hide that kind of thing in COVID nineteen whenever
Speaker 1: you don't have as many media personnel around the field
Speaker 1: and watching every single movement, especially when they're on the road.
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't necessarily be surprised if something comes out there.
Speaker 1: But that's really kind of also just me looking for
Speaker 1: an explanation. Rob Well, I think Heck said it. I
Speaker 1: mean they tried kind of the thunder and lightning thing
Speaker 1: they want. They've been wanting to get Tony more involved.
Speaker 1: His biggest play was the kickoff return. That was a
Speaker 1: great kickoff return off but but he only got two
Speaker 1: point eight yards of carry. And there was one play
Speaker 1: in the second half I forget which drive where he
Speaker 1: hesitated to hit the hole and I think he got
Speaker 1: hit for a loss and they brought Zeke right in.
Speaker 1: You know, so Zeke, that was one of Zeke's best
Speaker 1: just I don't know the rhythm, the way he was running.
Speaker 1: It was good. Yeah, he did, he did. And the
Speaker 1: problem was they didn't. They weren't able to set that
Speaker 1: up with any chunk plays in the passing game. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't think they got an explosive pass play till
Speaker 1: late in the game. For a long stretch. It was
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz for like fifteen yards, So you know, some
Speaker 1: of that was probably trying to get the ball out
Speaker 1: quick to protect the offensive line. Um, but they just
Speaker 1: never really made him pay, you know. And um. And
Speaker 1: you know when you miss the thing when you only
Speaker 1: can settle for three field goals and you miss them all, Uh,
Speaker 1: you're you're really putting stress on your defense. And they weren't.
Speaker 1: They were not going to bail you out last night.
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Speaker 1: Isaiah Stanback, Rob Phillips at Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeomans and
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. I was asked this this morning on the fan,
Speaker 1: and I think it's an interesting question because I think
Speaker 1: so a couple others in the media, national media. I've
Speaker 1: said so. Jimmy Johnson was the most recent to say it.
Speaker 1: But is Mike McCarthy the right man for the job
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys, because right now we're sitting at
Speaker 1: week fourteen in the NFL season, he is three and
Speaker 1: nine as a head coach. It's a losing season for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. The Cowboys not really in the spot right
Speaker 1: now anyways to win the division because of the recent
Speaker 1: wins from New York and from Washington, but also if
Speaker 1: you want to go all the way back to October
Speaker 1: of twenty seventeen, since Mike McCarthy defeated the Cowboys in
Speaker 1: October twenty seventeen, he is seven and twenty one as
Speaker 1: a head coach. So it hasn't been good for Mike lately.
Speaker 1: But heck, we will start with you on this one.
Speaker 1: Do you still think Mike McCarthy's right man for the
Speaker 1: job and does he have the right staff around him
Speaker 1: as well. I may not agree with the staff, but
Speaker 1: I agree that Mike is and I just feel as
Speaker 1: though he's in a very peculiar situation when you look
Speaker 1: at what he has to deal with with the cap,
Speaker 1: the decisions that he has to make, whether he's to
Speaker 1: resign Dak, the guys that are making Bookoo money on
Speaker 1: this roster, and how to maneuver and get out of
Speaker 1: some of that. I mean, I think he really has
Speaker 1: to look at the totality totality of this and see
Speaker 1: how he can make this roster better. He's gonna be limited.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be limited in that, especially with some of
Speaker 1: the wrong guys getting paid. But I just feel like
Speaker 1: it feel as though it's gonna be it's the job
Speaker 1: that he's gonna have to do to get that under
Speaker 1: wraps and get the talent that we need on this roster.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be scientific job by this coach. And so
Speaker 1: if you know, if his past is any indicator of
Speaker 1: future performance, let's just hope that he's passed at seven
Speaker 1: and twenty two or whatever the record that you just said,
Speaker 1: because he's gonna need to conjure up something. Because the
Speaker 1: other teams in your division, to walk the football team
Speaker 1: and New York based off of their salary cap, they're
Speaker 1: going to be a lot better than what they are
Speaker 1: right now because they're going to have the money to
Speaker 1: pay players. And so maybe Philadelphia is not in that
Speaker 1: situation because of where they are with Carson Wentz, but
Speaker 1: Dallas is in a real tricky situation right now. They're
Speaker 1: in a deal pickle. Yeah, it's a pickle. I don't
Speaker 1: I wish I can comment on this with a full,
Speaker 1: full head of confidence. The reason why I can't it's
Speaker 1: because I haven't been able to see practice. I haven't
Speaker 1: been able to see how he coaches in practice. I
Speaker 1: haven't been able to see his facial expressions, reader's lips,
Speaker 1: haven't been to be able to see any of that stuff.
Speaker 1: All I can see is the decisions that he allows
Speaker 1: to happen. He allows, He's allowed bad coaching decisions this year.
Speaker 1: He's allowed bad schemes defensively, He's allowed bad offensive calls
Speaker 1: early on in the season, specifically in the first half
Speaker 1: of the season. He's allowed bad special teams calls to
Speaker 1: get pushed through or you gonna pass him all the
Speaker 1: way to the field. So, based upon those things that
Speaker 1: I can see, I don't believe that he's the right
Speaker 1: person for this job right now. But again, I don't
Speaker 1: know how he coaches. I have been able to witness
Speaker 1: that personally, to be able to get my full scope.
Speaker 1: But based upon the things that I've seen this year,
Speaker 1: performance wise, it doesn't appear like it. There hasn't been
Speaker 1: a culture change. Things haven't gotten better in any regard.
Speaker 1: I don't feel I think I know Roule alluded to
Speaker 1: the defense getting a little bit better there for a second,
Speaker 1: But in terms of overall overarching effort, overarching efficiency, overarching wins,
Speaker 1: we haven't seen any of that. We haven't seen any
Speaker 1: seismic change in that nor expectation levels this season, so
Speaker 1: as of right now, based upon that information, the answers, No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good point, Like it's it's such a weird
Speaker 1: year and that it's really hard to get a feel
Speaker 1: for like the culture that he's brought in with the
Speaker 1: player because you're you're not around the players, you know,
Speaker 1: even in kind of a casual setting to talk more
Speaker 1: about stuff like that. You know, you're just on these calls.
Speaker 1: And I mean I said this during the bye week,
Speaker 1: I think when we were all doing different shows, like
Speaker 1: I think you we're gonna have a much better idea
Speaker 1: by mid season twenty twenty one where they're at because
Speaker 1: I'm I'm willing to give I've said this over and
Speaker 1: over again. You know, it's got to be somewhat of
Speaker 1: a mulligan here. I know that sounds probably like an excuse,
Speaker 1: but I mean the bottom line is, like, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: the offense is going to be should be miles better
Speaker 1: next year when you get some healthy guys back and
Speaker 1: run it back defensively. They've got to figure something out. Ye,
Speaker 1: whether it's scheme, it's probably it's a combination of scheme
Speaker 1: and personnel they're gonna have that change is there, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if if, if Mike's staff
Speaker 1: will come back fully intact. We'll see. But I think
Speaker 1: on at least one side of the ball, I think
Speaker 1: you come back next year and you feel much better
Speaker 1: about the situation with Dak healthy and all that. Defensively, though,
Speaker 1: they've got to find a way to make more plays
Speaker 1: and just make sound plays, make make just plays that
Speaker 1: don't lose your games. If they can find a way
Speaker 1: to do that and have a better offense, they're going
Speaker 1: to be much more competitive this year, regardless of you know,
Speaker 1: talking about fit with Mike and all that. I just
Speaker 1: think they'll have better players. So that's a start. And
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier there is going to be personnel changes,
Speaker 1: and I agree with you in that standpoint. But with
Speaker 1: what you're saying, there is Mike Nolan still kind of
Speaker 1: on the hot seat here over the last four weeks
Speaker 1: of the season. If this defense doesn't see some kind
Speaker 1: of improvement, I don't know that. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: Mike has been very you know, defensive, but been a
Speaker 1: staunch defender of his all year long that you know,
Speaker 1: they've I think they feel pretty good about what they've
Speaker 1: done scheme wise and when and trying to tail things
Speaker 1: back when they feel like it was I think two
Speaker 1: weeks in they said we scaled back, you know, But
Speaker 1: I think ultimately when you have to look at it
Speaker 1: and say it's it's never just one thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: what is causing players not to succeed in what you're
Speaker 1: trying to ask them to do? I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: coach's job. So they've they've got to evaluate that heavily
Speaker 1: in the offseason. Figure out what's you know, beyond personnel.
Speaker 1: Why can't we because you know, I mean there's defenses
Speaker 1: out there that I mean, I'm thinking back to Bill
Speaker 1: Parcel's first year that I covered in two thousand and three.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like a super talented team, but they just
Speaker 1: kind of did their job in one games ugly, and
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of what we thought this team
Speaker 1: could do without Dak at least some games, and they
Speaker 1: just haven't. They haven't played winning football nearly enough. Sorry,
Speaker 1: are you? Are you staying with your coaching staff? Rob
Speaker 1: or No? Well, I mean I don't, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know that it's certain that they're gonna make like
Speaker 1: coordinator changes because I just think he's he hasn't sounded
Speaker 1: like some guy that's really questioning the scheme side of it.
Speaker 1: But I think they have to look at that and say,
Speaker 1: you know, what's causing guys not to have success because
Speaker 1: they do have some talent on that side of the ball,
Speaker 1: especially up front. They've got guys who can make plays. Isaia,
Speaker 1: are you you can make every now? I already said
Speaker 1: what I already said based upon what I see right
Speaker 1: now and McCarthy and he's allowed I don't believe that
Speaker 1: he's the right guy right now. So that's how I'm
Speaker 1: able to see other things like I mentioned already, behind
Speaker 1: the scenes stuff practice. Um, I don't know how he
Speaker 1: facilitates practice any of those things. So I can't make
Speaker 1: a full statement, but based upon the information I have,
Speaker 1: the things that he's allowed, I'm not a believer. Em now,
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I don't know how I mean looking
Speaker 1: at let's just start from from the defensive side. I mean, uh,
Speaker 1: these these guys are teachers and this is you know,
Speaker 1: film study. Everything they're teaching this scheme and what they
Speaker 1: expect from this team from their players. In personnel and
Speaker 1: they get out there and they cannot execute it. And
Speaker 1: guys all the way up until this week seem to
Speaker 1: not know where they need to be position wise on
Speaker 1: the field. They've gone through all of the looks and
Speaker 1: this situational awareness all the time that's being taught. But
Speaker 1: if how does that not get conveyed to the field,
Speaker 1: is what I'm seeing, And so I don't know if like,
Speaker 1: like he said, let's give him a mulligan for this season,
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. But when you get into twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one, if we see any of these same things
Speaker 1: sought to happen, it's X name he gotta go. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's how much how much longer is this rope? And
Speaker 1: we can blame twenty twenty, we can say all that,
Speaker 1: but at some point your fan base and everybody around
Speaker 1: is not going to accept that. Right. You cannot continue
Speaker 1: to accept that, whether it's the guys, the personnel scheme,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's not being conveyed and bones fossil.
Speaker 1: It's probably one guy that definitely should be looked at
Speaker 1: immediately to find that what's going on with special teams.
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that the Cowboys will have
Speaker 1: to address this offseason or even the last four games
Speaker 1: of the year. I mean, this is evaluation time, not
Speaker 1: only for the players, but for the coaching staff who
Speaker 1: is going to be here in twenty twenty one to
Speaker 1: quote unquote run it back. That's what the decision making
Speaker 1: is going to come down to, is what we've seen
Speaker 1: so far and what we're going to see the next
Speaker 1: four weeks of the season. There was plenty of frustration
Speaker 1: around the special teams. We're gonna hit that tomorrow. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the three miss kicks some of
Speaker 1: the special teams they hit and misses from Bones, Fossil
Speaker 1: and that unit of the Dallas Cowboys. But that's gonna
Speaker 1: do it for us here today on Talking Cowboys. Tomorrow,
Speaker 1: we'll also preview the Cincinnati offense in the Dallas defense.
Speaker 1: Can the Cowboys not give up three hundred yards of rushing?
Speaker 1: Of course, like Isaiah said, they didn't give up three
Speaker 1: hundred yards of rushing? How about that? We got it
Speaker 1: underneath three hundred thank goodness, oh wow, two hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety four. Frustrating week after the thirty four or seventeen
Speaker 1: loss to the Baltimore Ravens, but for Rob Phil Loops,
Speaker 1: for hack My Harrison, Isaiah stand Back and the great
Speaker 1: Chris Beam as always doing work in the back. Um
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman saying so long from the star in Frisco.
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