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He's recognized as the first artist to have 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: an album hit the charts at number one for both 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: the Billboard two hundred and the Gospel Charts simultaneously, a 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: multi Grammary Award winning platinum All this New York Times 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: bestselling author interviewed him on that book, Tremendous The Crazy Workers, 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: fueled by building bridges, changing narrative, empowering a different franchise, 30 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: and restoring the dignity of those who are lost. We 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: were discussing his gospel career, mental health in the black community, 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: which we don't talk about enough, his controversial collaboration with 33 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: Blessings with my man Ti Dollar sign cause I'm trying 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: to figure that out because I've heard it so many times, 35 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: trying to figure that out. His new single, Your Power Will 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: Charts Tasha Cobbs, was released in time for May Mental 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: Health Awareness Month to create dialogue around depression therapy and 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: talk about the pressure of being an ideal role model. 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: We have a lot to unpack. Please Welcome to the Money 40 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: Making Conversations masterclass. Look, Cret, how you down, my brother? 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: What's going on? It's all good man, All well, I 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: can't complain. I'm grateful to be here, appreciate you having me. 43 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: All we know. 44 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: Just about the fourth or fifth interview, I say a 45 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: fourth and every time I always go back to when 46 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: I first saw you and in Houston and there was 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: a Joel Osteen's church. It was a think the Super 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 2: Bowl gospel celebration that was taping it and you came 49 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: down that and I've never seen you and all I 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: can remember, and I would probably every time I interview, 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: I always bringing up because you know, when you see 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: something and I'm just telling you, look, gret, when you 53 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: see something special, you have to keep reminding people because 54 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: you get hit all the time and we kind of 55 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: get wolled down and we kind of like, I'm not 56 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: saying you've lost focus, but you know you tend to 57 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: like get to sway from what you your purpose. Your 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: purpose is the impact people like me. I'm not an 59 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: everyday church goer. You know, I'm probably close I go 60 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: to church with When my wife she says grace and 61 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: I say Amen' that's my regular going to church, you know, 62 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: and and when I do other church, I understand the 63 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: value of going to church when I'm in that church. 64 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: And you affected me, brother, with your talents, with your 65 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: gifts and every word. I hung on it and it 66 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: still impacts me today when I when I see you 67 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: and I hear you talking these interviews, it's always not 68 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: just you rapping, but you are about the community and 69 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: you're about uplift. Tell everybody about La Craze. 70 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, I can only be authentically me, 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: and you know I wasn't raised in the church. That's 72 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 4: not my background, you know. So I wanted to create 73 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: tools and music and experiences for people like myself. You know, 74 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: what was what would raise my eyebrows and help me 75 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: realize that, you know, my faith is is bigger than 76 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 4: four walls. My faith is bigger than you know, white 77 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: gloves and hats, and so I really wanted to create 78 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: something for folks like that, and that's kind of what 79 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 4: has been driving me ever since. So I want to 80 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 4: be in different realms. You know, you see me in 81 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 4: the prisons, the detention centers. You see me on the 82 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: court side, you know, talking to my NBA players or 83 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: my NFL players, You'll see me, you know, mixing it up, 84 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 4: you know, at different environments. But again I'm gonna be 85 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 4: in the church as well because I'm trying to be 86 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: well rounded. 87 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: We know, it's really interesting. I always tell people that, 88 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: you know, when you meet somebody special, sometimes you don't 89 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: even know how to talk to. The very first time 90 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: I interview Lacraye was probably the most difficult interview because 91 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: I didn't really know how comfortable I could be with 92 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: him because he was you know, he's like, you know, 93 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a fan of hip hop, I'm a 94 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: fan of godspe was the first time I interviewed a 95 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: Christian rapper, a rapper of hip hop. So my whole 96 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: conversation like, okay, because you know, because rap has that 97 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: that the history of you know, a tough uh violence, 98 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: uh uh, getting that bank, getting that bag, you know, 99 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: women in video, that's what that That's what when you 100 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: say the word rapper, you said the word hip hop, 101 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: that's what it entails. Do you fight that? Is that? 102 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: Is that something that you did that when people when 103 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: you say you're a Christian rapper, that you have to 104 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 2: that you have to deal with as far as being stereotyped. 105 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you dealt with it a lot early on, 106 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 4: but then you realize, you know what, let me just 107 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 4: change the narrative. If people think, you know, all black 108 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 4: people are criminals, I'm not gonna walk around saying well, 109 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: I'm not black. You know, I'm gonna change your perspective. 110 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: You know, I'm gonna change your perspective of what a 111 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 4: black person is. And so when you come across me, uh, 112 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 4: you know, you're gonna say, well, what I thought that 113 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 4: they were all, Well, yeah, you thought wrong, you know, 114 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 4: and so, uh, you may have some perceptions about what 115 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: it is, what what a rapper who's a Christian looks 116 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 4: like or a Christian rapper, and how they move and 117 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 4: how they get down. Uh, but allow me to reintroduce myself. 118 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: And so so with that, you know, I had Tasha 119 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: Page Lockhart early on the earlier part of the show, 120 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: and you know, it's got like my church day to 121 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: day and my gospel day to day because y'all have 122 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: different styles, you know, which is really awesome. And you 123 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: know she grew up in the church. You know, her 124 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: mom was a church you know, so it was no 125 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: options for you for her to go in that direction. 126 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 2: How did you get in this direction? First of all, 127 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: I can understand the hip hop game, but how did 128 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: the Christian part of it get get played into the 129 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 2: hip hop game with you? Lakray? 130 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, I was always a free thinking individual. 131 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: You know. My mother was was raised in the church, 132 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: and she was a face some abuse, you know, some churches. 133 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: So she didn't want me to experience that. So she 134 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 4: raised me to think freely to philosophy, you know, philosophy, 135 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 4: and I started just exploring different views and and and 136 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: I knew that I had purpose, you know. And so 137 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: if you know you got purpose, that means, you know, 138 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 4: purposes that must come from somewhere. You can't just be 139 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: a cosmic accident, just a product of a big bang, 140 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 4: and you think you got purpose. So purpose had to 141 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: be given to me from somewhere. So I started just 142 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: investigating where that was and what that looked like. And 143 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: so I was on a college campus and decided to, uh, 144 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: you know, it was a young lady. It's always a 145 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: young lady. Uh, you know, hey, but she uh, she 146 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: invited me to a Bible study. I said, you know, 147 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 4: I let me go in and check it out. And 148 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 4: and you know, they blew my mind because they did. 149 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 4: They looked like me, they dressed like me, they talked 150 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: like me, and I did not expect that. And so 151 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: I hung around a little longer, and before long, you know, 152 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 4: I met God in that group of people. And and 153 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: then it would turned into like, well man, you know 154 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 4: I can express myself through rap music amongst these folks 155 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 4: because they were people just like me, and they loved it. 156 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, now now that that's that's God. You know, went 157 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: to the meeting. That's what I loved talking to you, 158 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 2: did you? And Kirk? I love talking because you just 159 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: really kind of like talk at least say, you know, 160 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: it's a like woman, that was a girl. You know, 161 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: because so many people in the in the church game 162 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: don't want to tell the truth. They don't want to 163 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: tell you that journey all the time. And the journey 164 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: is everyday life journey. Like you know, like Steve Harvey 165 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: used to always say, you know, uh, act like church 166 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: people don't have sex. They got some church kids from somewhere. Okay, 167 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: they came from somewhere. And now so let's go and 168 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: be honest. Now when we're talking about you and this 169 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: whole part of the process. Now you you're around these 170 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: group of people. Now you wrapping on them, you're breaking 171 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: lyrics off. Now when did the when did somebody come 172 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: and you go, brother, you got something here, you gotta 173 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: got you you can step this up to the next 174 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: level here, you know, because we all know that that 175 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: this this industry is tied to money. Look great, and 176 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: we know that the direction you were going ain't the 177 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: big money maker in the hip hop game. You know, 178 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: they you know, they're not saying that you broke. But 179 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: you know what a hip hop game. It's the number 180 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: one streaming format in the world is hip hop music. 181 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: And I've talked to enough gospel artists to know what 182 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: is a what is a big seller in the gospel game. 183 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: Did that come into play? Did people tell you, man, 184 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: you need to take your skills over to the hip 185 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: hop side instead of the Christian side? What was what 186 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: was your people telling you and why did you stand 187 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: strong in the Christian rap side? 188 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? So I had some individuals, you know, I obviously 189 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 4: had the producers and the DJs who said, hey, I 190 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 4: like what you're doing and I think, you know, you 191 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: might want to try this on the mainstream side. You know, 192 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 4: that may be a better look for you, right. But 193 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 4: but there was a young man, you know, he was 194 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: older than me at the time, and he was into 195 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: uh ironically, he was in the money management. He was 196 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 4: a financial advisor, and I really respected him because I 197 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: had never met, you know, a young black financial advisor before. 198 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: It was it was new to me, and I really 199 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 4: respected him. And he he told me, he said, hey, man, 200 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 4: you really have a talent, and you know, I think 201 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 4: God can use you if you really, you know, put 202 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 4: some structure around this and begin to build on it. 203 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: And so, man, that lit a fire on me because 204 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 4: he was somebody I respected. You know, he had the 205 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: stuff together. Because I was nervous, you know, I was like, man, 206 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 4: I should I pursue this rap thing? I don't know, 207 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: but he gave me the encouragement to do it. Well. 208 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: You know, it's really interesting because the whole thing that 209 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: people need to understand is that, you know, I always 210 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: telling people that's a forking roll and anything. You know, 211 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: there are a lot of people in jail because they 212 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: took the wrong fork in the roll. We all make 213 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: these decisions and whether you can walk that decision back, 214 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. But when you make the decision. I 215 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: always say, give one hundred percent, and that's what you did. 216 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: You gave one hundred percent when you start breaking through 217 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: those walls and started realizing that you can have a 218 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: career out of this, because that's the next step in it. 219 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: And I remember when I started doing stand up comedy. 220 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: I was just doing stand up comedy for fun. Look great, 221 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: and then I realized, you know, some people paying me 222 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: a check do this. And I realize, you know something, 223 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: I on TV doing this, and I realized, you know 224 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: something showing up to see me tell jokes. I can 225 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: make a crowd of this. But before that, it was 226 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: a lot of it was a lot of dollars. Look great, boy, 227 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: you're gonna leave. I'll be able to do what You 228 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: better lead that good job. You better lead that good job. 229 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: You ain't that funny, You ain't that funny? You know 230 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 2: those daughters, man, And that's that's when I started wondering 231 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: in the whole process. That's when faith come in it. 232 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: You know your belief, you know that you have to 233 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: that you have to lock in and otherwise what are 234 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 2: you what are you fighting? Because it's so many people 235 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: can like jump into your lane and say like you said, 236 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 2: DJ talking about hey man, money over here, bag over here, 237 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: over here, Yeah, but money over here. You know, those 238 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: type of people are really dangerous because in the end, 239 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: we all know we're gonna fall. Will they be there 240 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: to help you stand up? That's what you have to realize, 241 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: am I right? That's right. 242 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 4: You you nailed it. That's a big piece of it. 243 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 4: And you know, even my mother was a little nervous, 244 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 4: you know. And and because of the fact that I 245 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: had a nine to five and I, you know, was 246 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 4: getting a severance check. But like you said, I started 247 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 4: doing show after show and I knew, you know, I 248 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 4: had a budget and I knew, okay, let me see 249 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: how much is rent? Okay, this show pay for rent? 250 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 4: This can take care okay, all right? And now you 251 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 4: know I planned it out a little bit and then 252 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 4: I made it. I made that leap of faith, like you. 253 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: Said, and it's a powerful leap, ladies, Jill, you know, 254 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: I love bringing on individuals who, you know, because of 255 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: the fact that when I when I talked to little 256 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: Crape because he's younger than me, I always I loved 257 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 2: because he's gonna walk in my shoes, He's gonna he 258 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: gonna make some mistakes I made, and he's gonna live 259 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: through those mistakes and he's gonna learn that he's a 260 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,239 Speaker 2: better man for it. Always it ought to be successful, 261 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: you gotta make a mistake, because that way, you won't 262 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: make that mistake. Right now, you make it two or 263 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: three times, you're not a successful person anymore. But as 264 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: you go that path and that process, the arrows and 265 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: the slings that come at you. And because the last 266 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: time we talked about we talked about money. The last 267 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: time I interviewed him, he was doing a web series 268 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: called Protect the Bag m So that means that he 269 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 2: understands money. With all people were telling him, no man, 270 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: you're taking the risk. No man, don't leave that job, 271 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 2: No man, go hip hop. Years later you've been you're 272 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: getting paid to talk about money and financial literacy. 273 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 4: Wow, right, that's right, that's right, you nailed it. And again, 274 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: you know, that's why you got to stay on the 275 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 4: pathway that you believe he's supposed to be on, because, 276 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 4: like you said, those people who are doubting you, they're 277 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 4: not gonna pay your bills and they're not gonna be 278 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: there for you. You know, Uh, to celebrate the wins 279 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 4: with you. So you know, it's kind of like, hey man, 280 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 4: you at the end of the day, you got to 281 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 4: make a choice. And that's what I tell a lot 282 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: of my my youngins. I tell him, I say, hey, 283 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 4: you know nothing, and at some point in time, you're 284 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 4: gonna have to take a risk, you know, make it 285 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 4: a calculated risk and make it worth while. But don't 286 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: put too much pressure on yourself, especially if you're in 287 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: your early mid twenties. You know, if you can make 288 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 4: a couple of mistakes at twenty two, if you make 289 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: mistakes for three years or twenty two years old, you're 290 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 4: still gonna be in your twenties by the time. You know, 291 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 4: you realize what's going on. So you know, keep trying. 292 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: You know, that's so powerful. That's so powerful. When we 293 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: come back, I got to talk to him. There's a 294 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: press release that hit the wire that may be called 295 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: his PR person and involve the song Your Power and 296 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: involve Tasha Cobb. When we come back and go talk 297 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: about that. And it was the funny story. I called 298 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: Jackie Old that's his PR person. I said, I got 299 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: to interview my boy La Crage. She said, he don't 300 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: do nothing at the five thirty. I said, wow, I said, 301 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: asking She called me back to the Crill do your show. 302 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: This is my boy right here. This is my boy. 303 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: That's why he's on the show. If you're right back 304 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: for more from my man La Craig. 305 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 306 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: with Rashawn McDonald. You are now tuned into the Money 307 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashawn McDonald. 308 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: This week, I sat down with media mobile Hollywood executive 309 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: and philanthropist Nick Cannon. Although the former child star has 310 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: experienced a long career of success with no signs of 311 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: slowing down, he explains why he's so passionate about creating 312 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: opportunities for others. 313 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 5: It's all about the community. For me, It's about giving 314 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 5: other people opportunities. It's about opening doors and sharing their knowledge, 315 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 5: wealth and wisdom that I've obtained with everyone else. I mean, 316 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 5: you know, obviously I'm still in school. Hopefully you know, 317 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 5: I'll be able to you know, Hu Howard University. I 318 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 5: want to go all the way I'm getting my masters, 319 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 5: want to go to my doctorate and eventually be a 320 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 5: professor and teach the things that I've picked up along 321 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 5: the way. But it's all about the community, whether it's teaching, 322 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 5: whether it's entertaining, whether it's investing into us. 323 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: If you want to listen to this for interview with 324 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: Nick Cannon, it's available on Money Making Conversations dot com. 325 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: Now let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashaan McDonald. 326 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm back in this. Rashaan McDonald speaking to a 327 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: lot Craig. He's recognized as the first artist to have 328 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: an album to hit the charts at number one in 329 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: both Billboard two hundred and The Gospel Charice. That's right. 330 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: He's a multi multi Grammy Award winning platinum artist, New 331 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: York Times bestselling author. But it was a press release 332 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: that I saw that came across my wire talking about 333 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: the song Your Power, which is fantastic by the way, 334 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: I listened to it several times and with Tasha Cobbs 335 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: and was talking about the church community, dealing with stereotypes, 336 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: dealing with people expecting certain things to be a certain way, 337 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: and burning gospel church people act a certain way. Can 338 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: you break it down and can in details. It's your show, 339 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: it's your forum, but I just want to understand what's 340 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: going on in the world and why there was a 341 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: need for you and Tasha to get together. 342 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, Kasha and I are very vocal 343 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 4: about mental health. We both had struggles with mental health 344 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 4: that we wanted to be public about because black folks 345 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 4: don't talk about it as much as we need to. 346 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 4: And and then, you know, some of the blowback that 347 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 4: both of us have received from you know, certain church 348 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 4: folk about our collaborations, hers with Nicki Minaj and mine 349 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 4: with Todd Dollar Sign, you know, created some unnecessary tension 350 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 4: and pressure. And you know, you don't realize that that 351 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 4: stuff just keeps piling up and piling up, and no 352 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 4: public figure deserves to be as celebrated or criticized as 353 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 4: we are. And so that stuff can tend to mess 354 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: with your psyche. And so we just decided to take 355 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 4: control of that and to take you know, our mental 356 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 4: health back into our own hands. 357 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: Interesting now, because I do it. I do a lot 358 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 2: of episodes on mental health and anxiety and stress and depression, 359 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: and and on the show, my wife was listening and 360 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: I said something I told her, and I said on 361 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 2: the show, I deal with depression, and she and she 362 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: and Justice. Last week she said I never know you 363 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: dealt with any depression. And this is where this is 364 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: the problem with the black community. And you know, and 365 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 2: I've been with my wife since eighty two, okay, and 366 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 2: she's never heard me say depression or anything. And I 367 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: and she and she and I explained her. I said, well, 368 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: I just deal with it. I just I said, I'm 369 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: gonna tell you I've been black all my life. I said, 370 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 2: when I get out the car, I still get nervous 371 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: of the police officer. So just say hello to me. 372 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: Because I have doubts. I said, there's a natural lane 373 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: of stress that I'm going to deal with. And I said, 374 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: and when you're in entertainment business, explained it. Depression is 375 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 2: part of that because there's no guarantees. And entertainment business 376 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: is the worst because you can be riding high, walk 377 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 2: in the room if somebody can tell you you're not 378 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: the one, and boy, that wild not cure. You don't 379 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: know where to go to recover from that. And so 380 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: I said, it's something about entertainment. I said, when you're 381 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: doing a regular job, forty hour week job, that's different. 382 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: I said, when you're entertainment, your hides and lows can 383 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 2: be extreme you can be you can walk off the 384 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: stage to a standing ovation and go to the next 385 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 2: city and they're not even looking They looking like you 386 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: that they've never seen you tell a joke, a singer 387 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: or a rap song. And I said, that is what 388 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: I dealt with all my life. And so and also 389 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: when you're dealing in a in a in a lifestyle 390 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: that so many people question your decisions, so many people, 391 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: you know, question what you do because you know what 392 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: you can say, this look crazy. I can't tell people 393 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do tomorrow. If somebody asked me, okay, Rishane, 394 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: what you're gonna do tomorrow, I know I got a 395 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: lot of things I'm gonna do, but I can't tell you. 396 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 2: Like if you he was a bank teller, you could 397 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 2: tell us what you're gonna do. If you drove trucks, 398 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: you could tell us what you can do. If you 399 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: were a scientist, you can tell us we won't do. 400 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: But as an entrepreneur in the entertainment business, there's no 401 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 2: lines of description that you can say, when I wake up, 402 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: this is my day, right. 403 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. No, yeah, I mean it fluctuates 404 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 4: from from day to day, and you know, you can 405 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: try to build in some kind of consistency, but at 406 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 4: the end of the day, you know, different things come 407 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 4: up and different things happening, so you got to make 408 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: amends and you got to you know, move accordingly, and 409 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 4: so yeah, that can create stress. And again, you know, 410 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 4: we we were talk not to talk about those types 411 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 4: of things. I mean, once upon a time we weren't 412 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 4: even allowed to talk about the right things. They tapped 413 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 4: in Martin Luther King's phone so he couldn't tell better 414 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 4: let anybody know what he was going through. And so 415 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: you know, that stuff just goes on and on down 416 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 4: the line, where today we know it's kind of like 417 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 4: we got so many things to deal with. We don't 418 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 4: talk about what's going on mentally and emotionally, and you know, 419 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 4: it hinders us from being healthy. So so music has 420 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 4: been a part of our healing regiment. And that's why 421 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 4: I'm grateful to be able to be a musician, because 422 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: I can create some medicine for some folks. I mean, 423 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 4: you still might need to go to. 424 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: The doctor right right, because because that's really the problem 425 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: in our community. Because we I always tell people this 426 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: in the first of all, I don't jump hard on 427 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: people who who are slow in understanding that you need 428 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: to go to a doctor because of the fact that 429 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 2: we know we're the first hired, last fire, you know, 430 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: first first, last hired, first fire. Okay, so we always 431 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 2: I remember when I look crazy when I had cancer. 432 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't even know if I could reveal 433 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: that because it might cost me my career, might cost 434 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: me a job. People might look at my age and 435 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: cancer and think I'm not hiring that dude anymore. So, 436 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: so as a person of color, there's so many things 437 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: that we have to consider before we tell somebody I 438 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: need help. It's so many things we can before we 439 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: tell somebody that, and it might become across as a 440 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: sign of weakness. Of people who you consider your friends 441 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 2: might shy away from you because they don't know how 442 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: to deal with you. And they might use the word, 443 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: you know, the street word. He crazy, He crazy, I 444 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: don't know, he acting strange. And so those are the 445 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 2: things that before I jump down there and go hey man, 446 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: black people, they're the worst black people. They got mental problem. 447 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: They don't want to talk about it. People need to 448 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: step back. As a black man, I'm just talking for 449 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: myself now, this a black woman. Brother, I've been dealing 450 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: with a lot. I know I've had jobs I should 451 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 2: have gotten. I know they are better comedy writers out 452 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 2: there that I were better there, and I should they 453 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 2: got a development deal, but they got it. I know 454 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: they were comedy shows. I should have been the headline 455 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: and I was the middle act. I know they are 456 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: checks that should have been bigger for me, but I 457 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: didn't get it. All those things I have to just 458 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 2: as they say, suck it up and move on. That 459 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: is entertainment and that can lead you to depression. 460 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 4: That's right. And you nailed the hammer on the head 461 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 4: and we got to do a better job at navigating 462 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 4: things and and uh and and helping other people find freedom. 463 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 4: And so that's you know, exactly what I aim to do. 464 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: That's what I make it my mission to do is 465 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 4: to help people find freedom. Whether that's music, whether that 466 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 4: is you know, conversation, whatever it is, that's what I 467 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 4: want to do. 468 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: What you know the thing about is that when we 469 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: talk to create, I'm not trying to depress anybody. I 470 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: have energy in my voice, and when I'm talking to 471 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: you have energy because we've we've had so many conversations 472 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: when I when I had you on the show about 473 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: your book. You can't get any more honest than that book? 474 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: Was that which became a New York Times bestseller? Well, 475 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 2: we talked that was a different conversation. We talked about, 476 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: you know, protect the bag. That was a different conversation. 477 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 2: Now we're talking about mental health. How can we get 478 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: our black community to start raising their hand? How can 479 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: we help them out? 480 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 4: La Craig, Well, we you know, we got to follow 481 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 4: follow some of our leaders, Taraji p Henson, the Rock 482 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 4: Uh uh, you know, Michelle Williams, you know myself. 483 00:23:59,240 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 5: Uh. 484 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 4: You know, these are weird individuals who are being vocal 485 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 4: about this because we're letting you know that you're not alone. 486 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 4: And so what do you have to be ashamed? But 487 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: what can you lose? You know, by being honest with 488 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 4: yourself about getting from healing. You know, I'm not telling 489 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 4: you to tell the world. I'm telling you to tell 490 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 4: your doctor. You know what I mean. And so, you know, 491 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 4: what do you have to lose? You have everything to gain. 492 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 4: And I can tell you on this side of Grammys 493 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 4: and billboards and all these awards in Adelaide that I'm 494 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 4: better for it. No, you got nothing to lose and 495 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 4: everything the game. 496 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: Now that the single power? How did that come about? 497 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: Did you deal with Tasha Cobb? 498 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 4: So? So, Tasha heard some of my music and historically 499 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 4: and we talked about doing something together, and I thought, man, 500 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 4: that's gonna be an interesting mashup, you know what, you 501 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: being traditional gospel and me being rapped. But we found 502 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 4: the right music in the right you know, kind of 503 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 4: combination and it became something special. 504 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 2: Wow. Now now I'm trying to get some some clarity 505 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: on this, this this controversy with Blessings that you deal 506 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 2: with Todd Dollars side. That was twenty seventeen, right, yeah, man, 507 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: twenty sevent I'll tell you something. I'm telling because I 508 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 2: do this song back then because I loved it. Now 509 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: I went did he do a remix? Did he what? 510 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: Because I went before the before the All day to day, 511 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: I've been going through Google. I've been going through all 512 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: the search engines trying to find why are they hanging 513 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: on this song? Why Blessings? 514 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 4: You know, I wish I knew, I wish I knew. 515 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 4: You know, they just keep trying to find But that's 516 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 4: how that's how it is. You know, you must be 517 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 4: doing something right if people looking for something wrong with 518 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 4: what you got going on, so you know, just you know, 519 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 4: for me, I just keep pushing. 520 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna tell you something. Brother, Listen to me. Man, 521 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: you are one of my favorite people of Creamy and 522 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: last time we talked, we talked. I was supposed to 523 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: come by your building and you supposed to come by 524 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: my building. Now this time we gotta make it happen. 525 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: And then every time I talk to you, man, we 526 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: gotta do something together, man for the community event together. 527 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: And I'm just I'm just telling everybody right now because 528 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 2: every time I talk to him, I get closer and 529 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: closer to his brother to understand that he's just a 530 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: younger version of me. Y'all. He's just a younger version 531 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: of me, and Lord have mercy, we gotta do something 532 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: about that. I gotta meet the younger version of me. 533 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: I'm calling my young twin, and let's make a difference 534 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: because your special brother, and I love you for that. 535 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 4: Man, I appreciate you. It's an honor and a pleasure. 536 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: Just the one and on it look cray, thank you 537 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: for thank you for making time, thank you for giving 538 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 2: me a little time out after five thirty look crag 539 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: five thirty to talk to me, man, but you stay 540 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: blessed brother, and we'll talk soon. 541 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 4: Man. 542 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 2: I'm very serious. I owe you a visit to your building. 543 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, let's do it. 544 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: Talk to your own that's look Cray. Everybody an incredible 545 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: guy single I call Your Power with Tasha Cobs. And 546 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: if you want to hear a great song, listen to Blessing. 547 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: It's a really, really great song by Todd dollad Sign 548 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 2: came out in twenty seventeen. There's no controversy at all. 549 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 2: This is Rashan McDonald. I love you. I love everybody 550 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: who listened to my show, and I hope you guys 551 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: see the growth. Hope you guys understand this show is 552 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 2: about you. 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