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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Aeron, Torris,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. Busy weekend across the world of sports. NBA Playoffs,

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Speaker 2: as de Seger told you, the Golden State Warriors a

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Speaker 2: six point lead under four minutes to go, Game three

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Speaker 2: in Golden State, No Jimmy Butler, Warriors looking to go

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Speaker 2: up two to one in that series. We'll talk about

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Speaker 2: the wild finish with the Lakers and Clippers or the

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Speaker 2: Clippers and Nuggets later on in the show. But Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: first off, how are you? I know you were filling

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Speaker 2: in for Chris Plank last night. The story that I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you spent the inordinate amount of time on the

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Speaker 2: most amount of time on last night will be the

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Speaker 2: story that we lead with tonight. It is shad Or Sanders.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, my man?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well. I sent you a message earlier today

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Speaker 3: and said, you know, it was in for Plank and

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Speaker 3: I actually at some point towards the end of the show,

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Speaker 3: I thought to myself, I may have overdone it a

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Speaker 3: little bit with Shadoor Sanders maybe it talked a little

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Speaker 3: bit too much about it. There were other things going on,

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Speaker 3: but I had several different things I wanted to say

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Speaker 3: and ended up pushing a few things that I was

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Speaker 3: planning on doing because I just kept talking about Shador.

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Speaker 3: And then around the time that he got picked this afternoon,

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Speaker 3: I realized I didn't do enough because I did talk

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Speaker 3: about other things, and I'm not sure I should have

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Speaker 3: like I'd like. It was such, it was so insane,

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Speaker 3: and we're about to break it all down over this

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Speaker 3: next three hours. Of course, it's we have seen over

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Speaker 3: the last three months two of the biggest sports stories

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Speaker 3: of the century, one of them being the Lucas situation

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Speaker 3: in Dallas and then this situation with Shadoor Sanders. We

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Speaker 3: could have I could have easily just talked about that

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Speaker 3: one thing and still really not even have had to

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Speaker 3: repeat myself because there's so many different places to take

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Speaker 3: it well.

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Speaker 2: And I agree one hundred percent. And you know, it

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Speaker 2: is funny because I remember the night we were on.

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Speaker 2: I know, I say it every single time we talk Luca,

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Speaker 2: maybe from now until the end of time, but being

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Speaker 2: on air with Luca, you know, we were on for

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Speaker 2: about an hour and a half. We threw to Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fratto and I felt like we were just starting to

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Speaker 2: scratch the surface of Luca. And then I woke up

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Speaker 2: next day and consumed every piece of content that I could,

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Speaker 2: And it felt the same with Shador. It just felt,

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Speaker 2: you know, it was one of those and I think

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Speaker 2: you and I were texting. I've been part of so

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Speaker 2: many shadeour text threads and Twitter message it whatever, but

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Speaker 2: it felt like, if you are a sports fan, you

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Speaker 2: have an opinion on what happened with Shador, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's hyperbole. What you said is this

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Speaker 2: is one of the biggest sports stories that I think

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Speaker 2: we've seen. I think it's gonna go down as one

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Speaker 2: of the two or three. And when we look back,

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Speaker 2: when we're doing our end of year reviews in December

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Speaker 2: as one of the biggest stories of the year because listen,

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Speaker 2: we've had guys fall in the draft, We've had weird

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Speaker 2: stuff happen, but it's funny, right like, like you know,

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Speaker 2: every year around this time they show the Jets fans

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Speaker 2: we want SAP. We want SAP because you know, Warren

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Speaker 2: Sap was falling and he might go number one, and

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Speaker 2: you look up he ended up going twelfth overall in

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Speaker 2: that draft. Okay, Like, and there's been guys, you know,

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Speaker 2: we've seen Will Levis. Whether you believed in him or not,

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Speaker 2: goes early second, Gino Smith, early second. I'm just setting

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Speaker 2: this up for the audience. I don't know, maybe there

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Speaker 2: is an example that I can't think of of a

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Speaker 2: guy that we thought could legitimately go in the top five.

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Speaker 2: Like there were people, maybe you didn't think it was

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Speaker 2: gonna happen, but there was a scenario where everybody thought

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Speaker 2: he could go number three to New York. Some people

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Speaker 2: thought he was gonna fall maybe to the New Orleans

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Speaker 2: first round. And then, as somebody who was sitting at home,

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Speaker 2: it was funny. I was telling Brandon Deutsch r Rap

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Speaker 2: night that I try to put away the phone. You know,

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Speaker 2: whatever's going on in sports just you know, spend time

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Speaker 2: make sure to make her priority. And it was like

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Speaker 2: I was on my phone like everybody else, riveted of Oh,

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Speaker 2: the Browns have the first pick in the second round,

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Speaker 2: And then the Steelers have another pick. They didn't take them.

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Speaker 2: And all of a sudden you look up and oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Dylan Gabrielle goes to the Browns, and

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Speaker 2: then Jaylen Milroe goes to the Seahawks, and then the

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Speaker 2: night's over at Chaudor is still on the board, So

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Speaker 2: everybody knows what happened. By now, j mart Let's let

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Speaker 2: me just get to you. We have all night to

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Speaker 2: talk about the fit with the Browns. We now know,

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Speaker 2: of course, that he is officially a Cleveland Brown, as

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Speaker 2: Desager told you, fifth round pick one hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: fourth overall, let me just Jason Martin, floor is yours.

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Speaker 2: Why do you believe that that schador felt? Because again

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Speaker 2: I think the harshest critics that thought he's not a

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Speaker 2: first round talent or he's whatever. I think everybody thought

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Speaker 2: he was coming off the board early second. So what

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Speaker 2: is it in your opinion that led to the situation

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Speaker 2: that we saw unfold the last two or three days.

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Speaker 3: Apparently he's the worst guy ever. I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 3: the only explanation for it. Because and I sent you

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Speaker 3: this yesterday also, and this is kind of the first

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Speaker 3: thing that I talked about when I was in for Plank.

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Speaker 3: Was on April the twenty ninth, two thousand and twenty four,

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Speaker 3: right after last year's draft, the odds came out from

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Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty five draft, and spoiler alert, it

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Speaker 3: was Shedor Sanders. He was five to two odds but

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Speaker 3: plus two fifty to be the first overall pick in

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Speaker 3: by the way, we also heard I promised that I

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Speaker 3: heard this discourse. This didn't just happen in dreams and fantasies,

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Speaker 3: stuff like who's gonna have the opportunity to draft Shadeur Sanders?

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Speaker 3: Like the teams that were struggling late, well, they're gonna

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Speaker 3: have an opportunity to draft shador I was hearing that

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Speaker 3: And then I've actually even heard this argument out there

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Speaker 3: that mock drafters were only including him in the first

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Speaker 3: care if they're on the wrong side of Dion. Their

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Speaker 3: job is to be as accurate in their predictions as

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Speaker 3: humanly possible. Now their real job is to put out

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Speaker 3: mock after mock and create different talking points over and

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Speaker 3: over again. But like people were saying mel Kiper was

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Speaker 3: in the tank for Shadur, It's like, what for what reason?

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Speaker 3: All he is is a meteorologist, folks. His job is

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Speaker 3: to be as accurate with the forecast as possible. That's

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Speaker 3: how he puts food on the table. That's how he's

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Speaker 3: done this forever. There's no reason for him to be

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Speaker 3: draft spot. But here would be my question if he

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Speaker 3: remember the way people were talking about Shadoor Sanders. They

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Speaker 3: weren't talking about cam Ward this way before the season.

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Speaker 3: The way that they were talking about Shdoor Sanders. Here's

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Speaker 3: my question for you, Aerin. Did shaduor Sanders forget how

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Speaker 3: to play football over the course of the last year

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Speaker 3: because somebody that was favored to be the overall number

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Speaker 3: one pick. This makes absolutely zero sense from a football perspective,

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Speaker 3: because all he did was win a lot of games,

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Speaker 3: go to a bowl game, and perform Like what exactly

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Speaker 3: did you need him to do? So that's why I'm

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Speaker 3: left thinking he must be the worst guy ever, Like

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Speaker 3: he must have bodies in the closet somewhere that we

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Speaker 3: have no idea about. There must be skeletons falling out

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Speaker 3: of multiple closets with false bottoms to explore what is

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Speaker 3: going on here, because otherwise it is completely ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Well, and so it's funny because you said, did he

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Speaker 2: forget how to play football? And this is the part

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Speaker 2: forget how to play football? He was significantly better this

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Speaker 2: because you know, I think people, and it's so funny

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Speaker 2: because I have been a Shador defender throughout this process.

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Speaker 2: By the way, not a perfect quarterback takes too many sacks,

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Speaker 2: holds on the ball too long. Hey, that's what this

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Speaker 2: thing called coaching is for coach it out of them. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: But I think because people don't like Dion, they forget

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Speaker 2: how freaking good shador. These are not Aaron Torres's opinions.

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Speaker 2: These are not Jason Martin's opinions. These are just facts.

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Speaker 2: Seventy four percent completion percentage this year, thirty seven touchdown

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Speaker 2: Uh big twelve, First Team All Quarterback this year. Oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, for a guy who is believed to

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Speaker 2: not be an elite at he's not an elite athete,

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Speaker 2: but a good athlete. Four rushing touchdowns on top of

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Speaker 2: he did not forget how to play football. And I

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Speaker 2: I think, to me, I think there's a few variables here,

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Speaker 2: and I think he touched on a few of them.

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Speaker 2: Is one. I don't think Dion helped the process. No,

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Speaker 2: But I'll say this though, I think it's being a

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Speaker 2: like like, and I do agree, like if Dion's going

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Speaker 2: I remember very early. It must have been around the

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Speaker 2: Combine I was filling in. It must have been Doug Gottlie.

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Speaker 2: We had Mark Dominic on the on the show, and

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Speaker 2: it was around the time that he was at the Combine.

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Speaker 2: I remember, and I remember asking him. I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: Shador and Dion made a big stink about you know,

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Speaker 2: there's certain teams that he wouldn't play for. Now that

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Speaker 2: we're in this process, do you get the sense that

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Speaker 2: there is a team that he would refuse to play

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Speaker 2: for if they were interested in drafting him? And Mark

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Speaker 2: Dominic said no. So it wasn't that long ago that

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Speaker 2: we were still having those conversations. So I don't think

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Speaker 2: Dion helped him. By all reports, Shadoor was a was

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Speaker 2: a terrible interview. And I think the other thing too, is,

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Speaker 2: like you said, he just might not have been as

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Speaker 2: good of a prospect as we expected. Now why you

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Speaker 2: know why that never came out until the last couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks or so. I just think it's it's it

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Speaker 2: was almost, in my opinion, a perfect storm of reasons

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Speaker 2: why he fell is I think maybe he wasn't the

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Speaker 2: prospect that he thought that we thought he was during

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Speaker 2: the season, fair or not, whatever, Why whyever people think

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Speaker 2: that he's not the prospect? I don't know. I think

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Speaker 2: Dion's comments didn't help him. I think shadore some of

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Speaker 2: his public comments about his team and about his this

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Speaker 2: he's tweeting at his former teammates whatever. The other thing

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Speaker 2: doing it on a purpose? Did you do?

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Speaker 6: I would never like publicly go on and like you

433
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Speaker 6: know you guys know like Sadar Sanders is my man.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I was. I thought I thought about you.

435
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Speaker 2: This is gonna sound creepy. I was gonna say I

436
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Speaker 2: thought about you late last night. Not like that, but

437
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Speaker 2: I thought about No. She she is uh, you know,

438
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Speaker 2: the unofficial head of the Shadoor Sanders fan club.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: There may be ir restraining orner involved. I don't really

441
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Speaker 2: know too many. No, I'm kidding, but I did think

442
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Speaker 2: I was almost gonna text you like I'm so sorry

443
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Speaker 2: about about shador. I knew how how how heartbroken you were.

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Speaker 6: Throughout I mentioned say, how was it Chris Goodwin Krik

445
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Speaker 6: Godwin one time and Sam texted me when.

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Speaker 2: He, like, you know, when he had that injury.

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Speaker 6: And Sam texted me, so I think I'm just I

448
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Speaker 6: think I'm cool of mentioning like any guys anymore.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well we got it. Yeah, Well, did you do

450
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Speaker 2: that on purpose though nobody likes you when you're twenty three?

451
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Speaker 7: That was me.

452
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Speaker 3: But did you think that you do it on purpose?

453
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Speaker 2: I did?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Bro, wow, I like, there's no way that was

455
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Speaker 3: going to be just luck, like that had to be. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 3: that's just great.

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Speaker 2: Producing Well. George Sanders is twenty three years old as

458
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Speaker 2: of February seventh. He is now officially a Cleveland Brown

459
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Speaker 2: as well. So we talked about why he did and

460
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Speaker 2: did not fall in the first round and the first segment,

461
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Speaker 2: and he is officially a Cleveland Brown fifth round pick,

462
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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty fourth pick overall, second quarterback drafted

463
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Speaker 2: by the Cleveland Browns. But I'll tell you this, Jay Mart,

464
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Speaker 2: you look at that depth chart. You know, Deshaun Watson

465
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Speaker 2: out with the Achilles injury, Joe Flacco, who is on

466
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Speaker 2: the other side of forty, and I liked Joe Flacco,

467
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Speaker 2: but I think it's going to be hard for a

468
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Speaker 2: forty soon to be forty one year old to be,

469
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Speaker 2: you know, a seventeen game starter. They have Kenny Pickett

470
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Speaker 2: and they have Dylan Gabriel. And my big takeaway is, listen,

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Speaker 2: if you're Shore Sanders, did you hope this happened four

472
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Speaker 2: rounds earlier in round one? Yeah you did, But there

473
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Speaker 2: are much worse landing spots if you are Shedore Sanders

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Speaker 2: in the Cleveland Browns, Oh for sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is one of the places that you

476
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Speaker 3: want to go if you're him, because let's just be

477
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Speaker 3: real here, he's gonna be QB one by Christmas, if

478
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Speaker 3: not earlier. I think mid season, I think is what

479
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Speaker 3: I said to you, and then you sent me the

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Speaker 3: tweek that you had put out that was basically identical.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: To my point, I just I don't see a universe

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Speaker 3: where it's not going to be his gig. And I mean,

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Speaker 3: if you consider where he was supposed to be drafted,

485
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Speaker 3: any eyes of most up until the pre draft process,

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Speaker 3: I think Ben Maher said he had cooties. That's a

487
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Speaker 3: pretty good line. Actually likes that's pretty good. I saw

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Speaker 3: that like before that point, like you look at you

489
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Speaker 3: just laid it out. I mean, I know Deshaun wat

490
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Speaker 3: is on his revenge tour. At least that's what he

491
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Speaker 3: has said, that he wants to shut all the haters down.

492
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Speaker 3: I just don't think he's good anymore. I think that's

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Speaker 3: the biggest problem for him. So I guess you can

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Speaker 3: call me a hater at this point, but I need

495
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Speaker 3: to see him actually do things that are positive as

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Speaker 3: a quarterback in back to back weeks in a Cleveland

497
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Speaker 3: Brown's uniform before I really care. And then you mentioned

498
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Speaker 3: Flacco and then Dylan Gabriel unfortunately, is just never going

499
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Speaker 3: to have an opportunity. I don't think not there. So

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Speaker 3: I just I don't see a universe where should door.

501
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Speaker 3: By the time they get out of Camp Stefanski and

502
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Speaker 3: people were like, oh man, like they literally fell backwards

503
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Speaker 3: into a fifth round pick that most people had in

504
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Speaker 3: the top five six months ago, Like that's that's absolute insanity.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, the biggest example that I think

506
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Speaker 3: you could point to of this in history, like you mentioned,

507
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Speaker 3: you know, Aaron Rodgers was twenty fourth. Our partner Brady

508
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Speaker 3: Quinn was twenty ish somewhere in that neighborhood. I think

509
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Speaker 3: we have seen it. You talked about Levis, you talked

510
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Speaker 3: about Gino Smith. But the closest example I think happened

511
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Speaker 3: right here in Nashville a couple of years ago, and

512
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Speaker 3: it was Malik Willis. Malik Willis, who we were being

513
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Speaker 3: told was top five, top ten potential, and then he

514
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: slips out of the first round. He ends up going

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Speaker 3: I think it was eighty six to Tennessee after all

516
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Speaker 3: of that. But the difference is that's Malik Willis and

517
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Speaker 3: this is shud Or Sanders. Malik Willis, you could talk

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Speaker 3: about where he was coming from and where he had

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Speaker 3: played and all this. You can't really say that about

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Speaker 3: Shadu or Sanders based on Colorado and what they went

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Speaker 3: through last year, the schedule that they had, all of that,

522
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Speaker 3: and what they did in the Big twelve, Like, you

523
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Speaker 3: can't even make the same argument from that. So there's

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Speaker 3: again there's a I just look at Browns fans may

525
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Speaker 3: actually end up with the greatest story maybe in their

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Speaker 3: franchise's history or certainly in recent memory for them because

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Speaker 3: they fell into Shadoor Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me, let me ask you this real quick.

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Speaker 2: I want to get back to shore in a minute.

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Speaker 2: Why explain to me the Dylan Gabriel and then the

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Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders thing or is there no explanation?

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Speaker 3: There's not. They they took Dylan Gabriel because they didn't

533
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Speaker 3: I guess they didn't want to take Shador because again,

534
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: like apparently he's the worst guy in the history of Earth.

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Speaker 3: And then they ended up like eventually they said, look,

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Speaker 3: we're just gonna take him. And I even heard them

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Speaker 3: trying to explain it on TV after he was picked

538
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 3: and saying, you know, there's a there's a long time

539
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 3: time between Dion and Jimmy hatslum, so you know this,

540
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Speaker 3: there's a great relationship here that made this happen. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: we're talking about the fifth round, yep, Like what is

542
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Speaker 3: the description? Like what are we talking about at this

543
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Speaker 3: stage in this Like, why are you trying to explain

544
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Speaker 3: why this dude was taken in the fifth round? He

545
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 3: was taken in the fifth round because eventually somebody decided

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Speaker 3: to order the code red against the collusion that was

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Speaker 3: happening in the league. Now I'm just throwing that out there.

548
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that that actually happened. But there was

549
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Speaker 3: a moment there where I was just like, did the

550
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Speaker 3: league just get together and say we're just not gonna

551
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 3: draft this guy? No one can draft him? And then

552
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: eventually somebody just kind of broke through and said, now

553
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna We're finally gonna take him, or maybe like

554
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: the only way this works is the Browns say, look,

555
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: we're planning on taking him early. We're gonna take him

556
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Speaker 3: at five. We're gonna we're gonna trade down. We're gonna

557
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: take him at five. And then they're like, you know

558
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: what if you wait, we'll let you take him in

559
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: the fifth round after we've humbled him properly. No one

560
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: will take him prior to you, but you don't take

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Speaker 3: him until midway through the fifth round. Like there's I

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Speaker 3: don't even there's no I can't wait to read the

563
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: stories about this after a lot of it is broken

564
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Speaker 3: down and people start talking about what went down here,

565
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 3: because there's some stuff we don't know that went on

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Speaker 3: over the last forty eight hours.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I first of all, the Dylan Gabriel thing, I

568
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Speaker 2: have no real answer on now. I will say I

569
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Speaker 2: have no fundamental issue with just taking both and saying, hey,

570
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Speaker 2: if either of you is good enough, go win the job,

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Speaker 2: which I think Shador will do. But yeah, no, the

572
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Speaker 2: whole thing is strange.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Again, it goes to the Lukadancich stuff that we talked about,

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Speaker 2: you know, to lead the show, not to lead the show,

576
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Speaker 2: but in the first segment, and what we've talked about

577
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Speaker 2: the last month is that I just I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's a great reason. I think that unless the interviews

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Speaker 2: were way worse than we thought. But even then, to

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Speaker 2: your point, you get to the second, third, fourth round

581
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Speaker 2: and it's just a value proposition. It's just, dude, this

582
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: might be the most talented quarterback. Like that was something

583
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Speaker 2: I was thinking about on on Friday night, is like

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00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: he must have been really bad in those interviews because

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Speaker 2: there isn't a coach in the league, because there isn't

586
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Speaker 2: a person in America that if you had to win

587
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: one game tomorrow, would Jalen Milroe over Shador Sanders you

588
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: just won it. Probably the same with Dylan Gabriel. So anyway,

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00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: it remains astonishing. Shadoor Sanders is officially a member of

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns, and trust me, we're gonna continue this

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Speaker 2: conversation throughout the night because it is fascinating, but it

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Speaker 2: is official. Chadoor to the Browns. Fox Sports Radio aer

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Speaker 2: towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios,

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Speaker 2: come back, talk about some of the other news and

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Speaker 2: notes over the course of the last couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Before we do, though, let's get it over the news

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Speaker 2: desk first time on our show this evening. Steve de Sager,

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Speaker 2: what is trending? My friend?

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Speaker 3: Hello, gentlemen.

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Speaker 8: We will get to the playoff victory of the Golden

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Speaker 8: State Warriors in a moment. There are two laid ballgames.

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Speaker 8: Great game at Dodger Stadium. The Pirates were leading LA

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Speaker 8: in the top of the seventh with a run four

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Speaker 8: to three. Bottom of the seventh show Hey O Tani

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Speaker 8: RBI doubled a tie bottom of the eighth, te Oscar

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Speaker 8: Hernandez solo homer for the lead five four Dodgers in

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Speaker 8: the bottom of the eighth. Meanwhile, it's Seattle. It's ten

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Speaker 8: nothing Mariners over the Marlins attom of the six. Just

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Speaker 8: one hit for the Marlins, and Tampa Bay has just

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Speaker 8: won four to one at San Diego at Arizona four

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Speaker 8: home runs tonight for the Diamondbacks, a Henny O Suarez

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Speaker 8: and the Braves still won the game in ten innings,

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Speaker 8: eight to seven at Arizona. Detroit swept a doubleheader from Baltimore,

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Speaker 8: Saint Louis and Cincinnati with wins Toronto at the Yankees

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Speaker 8: reigned out. All the NBA playoff games on the Saturday

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Speaker 8: schedule are now final. Golden State up two games to

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Speaker 8: one in its first round series after beating Houston one

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Speaker 8: oh four to ninety three. Steph Curry with thirty six

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Speaker 8: points nine assists. Jimmy Butler of the Warriors was out

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Speaker 8: after a fall. What an ending to Denver's win in

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Speaker 8: La over the Clippers on a dunk at the buzzer

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Speaker 8: one oh one ninety nine is the final series tied

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Speaker 8: at two. Aaron Gordon, the late Hero Clippers were down

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Speaker 8: twenty to start the fourth. It did not go overtime, though.

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Speaker 8: Oklahoma City sweeps its series four to oh over Memphis

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Speaker 8: one seventeen one fifteen. Cleveland won again, this time at

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Speaker 8: Miami won twenty four eighty, having its three games to none.

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Speaker 8: Caves in the NHL's late playoff game the Avalanche at

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Speaker 8: home through two lead three to nothing against Dallas. Overtime

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Speaker 8: wins for Ottawa and Vegas. Tampa Bay a five to

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Speaker 8: one winner at Florida. Today, the Minnesota Vikings acquired quarterback

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Speaker 8: Sam Howell from Seattle. The NFL draft concluded with rounds

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Speaker 8: four through seven today. In round four, Arizona State running

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Speaker 8: back Cam Scatibow went to the Giants. The Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 8: in round five did select Colorado quarterback Shduer Sanders. Undrafted

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Speaker 8: was Colorado defensive back Shiloh Sanders. He is signing with

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Speaker 8: Tampa Bay. Among those in round six, quarterback from Syracuse

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Speaker 8: Kyle McCord, a Philadelphia native, goes to the Eagles, and

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Speaker 8: Will Howard, who finished up at Ohio State at QB,

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Speaker 8: goes to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ohio State had fourteen players drafted.

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Speaker 8: Georgia had thirteen. In the seventh round. Among those taken,

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Speaker 8: Texas quarterback Quinn Ewers to the Miami Dolphins. MLS Nashville

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Speaker 8: seven to two over Chicago. Tonight, and NASCAR is back

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Speaker 8: on Fox TV Sunday from Talladega three pm Eastern time,

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Speaker 8: Austin Hill one Today's Infinity Race. There back to you

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: and I'll be real the one pick that I just

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Speaker 2: Bears conversation. I want to save that for later in

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Speaker 2: the show. Give me another just takeaway from non Shador

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Speaker 2: non Brown's non non Dylan Gabriel. Give me a take

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Speaker 2: from the from the NFL Draft that we haven't hit

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Speaker 2: on yet.

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Speaker 3: Hmmm, Well, I do think that the Giants end up

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Speaker 3: getting Abdul Carter and then a quarterback that a lot

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Speaker 3: of people like. I'm they're a lot higher on. Those

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Speaker 3: people are higher on Jackson Dart than I am. But

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Speaker 3: Abdul Carter I am very high on, as are just

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Speaker 3: about anybody else. So you end up with this, Maybe

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Speaker 3: you get your Micah Parsons here, and then you get

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Speaker 3: a quarterback, which you desperately needed if you're Brian Dable,

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Speaker 3: And whether I think that should have been Shador Sanders

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Speaker 3: or not, Jackson Dart is somebody that was going to

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Speaker 3: be picked pretty early in the second round if he

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Speaker 3: didn't get picked in the first. Most had him going

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Speaker 3: in the first by the end of this thing. So

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Speaker 3: that I think that the Giants actually did a nice job.

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Speaker 3: They played this well because they easily could have taken

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Speaker 3: a quarterback at three, but instead they took somebody it's

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Speaker 3: going to be, you know, one of those kind of

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Speaker 3: defenders I believe for that franchise for a very long

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Speaker 3: time and then still end up with a quarterback by

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Speaker 3: the end of the first round. So I think that

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Speaker 3: Giants fans probably pretty happy about how that played out

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Speaker 3: for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that's that's a good angle. I'm

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Speaker 2: not a Jackson Dart guy, but ultimately, if you didn't

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Speaker 2: like Shador and you felt like you needed a quarterback, hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: you know it's a roll of the dice. You don't

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Speaker 2: need him to play this this year anyway. I will

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Speaker 2: point out with Jackson Dart twenty nine touchdown passes this year,

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Speaker 2: nineteen of them came against Duke Arkansas, one of the

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Speaker 2: worst teams in the SEC, Georgia Southern and Furman, so

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Speaker 2: not putting a wet blanket on the Giants pick. A

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Speaker 2: lot of people liked him. I thought he was more

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Speaker 2: of a second, third round guy. I think you did too.

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Speaker 2: I think we talked about that last week. Is that

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Speaker 2: you know whatever, But hey, listen, you need a long

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Speaker 2: term answer. Maybe he's the guy, maybe he isn't. I'll

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Speaker 2: give you mine. And we talked about this last week.

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Speaker 2: I think Jason I said before the break the pick

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Speaker 2: that I just don't understand. Well, I'll be honest, that's

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Speaker 2: what we call tea's in the business. I do understand

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Speaker 2: the pick. I just don't like it. It's Ashton Genty

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Speaker 2: to the Raiders. I get it, I get it right.

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Speaker 2: You think Geno Smith is the guy, Pete Carroll's a defense,

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Speaker 2: run game head coach. I get it. But I also

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Speaker 2: know that at some point you're gonna have to put

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Speaker 2: up points in that division with freaking Patrick Mahomes justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: You know the Broncos are getting there with bow Knick's

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00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: playoff team a year ago. I just to me, I

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Speaker 2: just I just think the Raiders have way too many

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Speaker 2: holes to be using these sixth pick on a running

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Speaker 2: back and what we all to be a great running

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Speaker 2: back draft. Quinn shot jud Kids in the second round,

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Speaker 2: Trevion Henderson in the second round. I understand why it

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Speaker 2: was done. I just fundamentally disagree with a team drafting

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Speaker 2: that high, with that many holes, using the number six

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Speaker 2: overall pick on a quarterback at a running back.

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Speaker 3: Exeason, Yeah, I get it. I mean Ashton Genty just

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Speaker 3: kind of started rockinging up the boards. I remember just

729
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Speaker 3: a handful of months ago he was being mocked in

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Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of drafts for my Broncos

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Speaker 3: to take it twenty. And then of course after that,

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Speaker 3: there was no way he was going to be available,

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Speaker 3: So you didn't see that anymore unless the Broncos are

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Speaker 3: going to trade up to try and get him. But

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Speaker 3: I started hearing discourse like, you know, after what Sakwon

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Speaker 3: did and all this stuff, he can come in and

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Speaker 3: be one of the top five running backs in the league,

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Speaker 3: and that you know, yeah, you don't want to take

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Speaker 3: a running back this high, but he's different that. I

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Speaker 3: heard that from a number of different places. And then

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Speaker 3: the arguments out there, you know, well, the Flkins don't

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Speaker 3: regret b John Robinson, for example, I felt like it

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Speaker 3: was a little high, just because I want to see

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Speaker 3: what he did at Boise State translate on the NFL level, right,

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to. I don't know, like it's

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Speaker 3: just there's something, there's something about it that I didn't love.

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Speaker 3: But I'm definitely not as low on it as you are.

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Speaker 3: Like I didn't think that, I definitely didn't hate it.

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Speaker 3: I understood it, and especially for that team only because

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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll wants to run the ball on five downs

751
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Speaker 3: out of four if he can like that was that

752
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: was the knock for a long time was Russell. I

753
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 3: felt bad for Russell Wilson a lot of the time

754
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Speaker 3: when he was in the Steelers or in the Seahawks uniform,

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Speaker 3: because it would be run the ball on first down,

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Speaker 3: run the ball on second down, Russ, it's third and fifteen,

757
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: get us out of this and so but everybody said, look,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna go get this Marshawn Lynch, and that's exactly

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Speaker 3: what he did. And the new GM there is somebody

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Speaker 3: believes in the idea of a running back early, especially

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Speaker 3: if it's a special talent. So if they had him

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Speaker 3: that high and they believe he's a difference maker, who

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Speaker 3: am I to disagree with that? The only thing I

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Speaker 3: will say is you're looking at a team that had

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Speaker 3: Jacobi Myers and Brock Bauers but still have had a

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Speaker 3: lot of pass catching needs, had some other needs, certainly,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know that this should have been the

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Speaker 3: top of the list. But because of the offense and

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Speaker 3: the way that Pete Carroll has coached throughout his NFL career.

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Speaker 3: Perhaps this makes more sense than it would have for

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Speaker 3: just about any other team to have done it this early.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it makes sense given the team, the coach, whatever.

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Speaker 2: I guess. I just have my questions. I will say

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Speaker 2: in the Raiders defense, statistically, their defense was maybe a

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Speaker 2: little little bit better than I gave a credit for

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Speaker 2: middle of the pack, you know, in total yards allowed, scoring,

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Speaker 2: all of that. Part of it was defensive head coach

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Speaker 2: last year. And you know, listen, it wasn't a great

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Speaker 2: edge rusher class, so maybe there wasn't that guy that

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Speaker 2: you felt like was a game wrecker. I just like

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Speaker 2: I said, I just feel like there had to be

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Speaker 2: better value in that pick. But listen, if Ashona Genty

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Speaker 2: is really good and he could control the clock. The

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Speaker 2: other thing too, by the way, really quick and you

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Speaker 2: mentioned it, great story, but there is a difference between

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Speaker 2: running in the Mountain West and running in the you know,

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Speaker 2: AFC West. So we'll see what happens there. That was

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Speaker 2: the pick I didn't understand. Tell you what, j Mart,

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Speaker 2: we got two more hours. We're taking you till two

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Speaker 2: am Eastern time. We have plenty of time to talk

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft. But what I want to do now. I

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Speaker 2: want to go ahead and switch gears. We got to

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Speaker 2: talk a little bit of NBA and the biggest story

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Speaker 2: in my opinion and maybe yours too in the league

795
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: didn't come in the playoffs this week. It came off

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Speaker 2: the court where Nico Harrison. Every time he speaks, it

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Speaker 2: gets worse. We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to talk a little NBA?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 2: NBA playoff slate for Saturday is complete four games our final.

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Speaker 2: The Memphis Grizzlies have been eliminated from the playoffs. They

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Speaker 2: lost earlier in the day of the Oklahoma City Thunder

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder a clean sweep. They have advanced the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Cavaliers a win over the Miami Heat, Cleveland up

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Speaker 2: three to nothing in that series. We had a thrilling

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Speaker 2: finish in Denver Clippers that we'll get to in just

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Speaker 2: a minute. And Houston loses in Golden State on Saturday

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Speaker 2: night thirty six points. As the Taker just told you

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Speaker 2: for Steph Curry. Golden State without Jimmy Butler goes up

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Speaker 2: two to one in that series. We'll get to some

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Speaker 2: of the games on the court in a minute. Tell

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Speaker 2: you what, though, j mart I think the most interesting

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Speaker 2: story at the NBA this weekend came off the court

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Speaker 2: this week excuse me, came off the court. The story

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Speaker 2: that won't go away, But it's certainly not helped by

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Speaker 2: the fact that the principle or one of the principles

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Speaker 2: our old buddy, Nico Harrison. Okay, So Nico Harrison is

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks GM, relatively innocuous guy for most of

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00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,839
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Speaker 2: just not a guy that anybody knew much about then.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the Luka Doncich trade happens about six eight

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Speaker 2: weeks ago. Now, you and I were on air. As

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00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: I say, every single time we bring it up, just

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Speaker 2: one of the wildest things. You know, I think throughout

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00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: our careers it's going to go down as one of

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Speaker 2: the wildest stories to be on air live for. But

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, every single time Nico Harrison tries

848
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Speaker 2: to explain this thing, it just keeps getting worse and

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Speaker 2: Earlier this week, he was asked about the Luka Doncis

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Speaker 2: trade yet again. Dallas, of course losing in the playing round.

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Speaker 2: So Dallas this season is over. Here was Nico Harrison

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Speaker 2: earlier in the week, trying to explain what about the

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Speaker 9: I did know that Luca was important to the fan base.

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Speaker 9: I didn't quite know it to what level. But the

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Speaker 9: way we looked at it is, if you're putting the

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Speaker 9: and Lively, we filled that's a championship caliber team, and

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00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 9: we would have been winning at a high level, and

860
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 9: that would have quieted some of the outrage.

861
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: So, J Mart, I've talked plenty. I'm gonna throw it

862
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: over to you in just half a second. The only

863
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: thing that I will say I have been since the

864
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: night we were on air. I'm not a big conspiracy

865
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: theory guy, but I thought there was just something fishy

866
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: about this. There had to be something. Did Adam Silver

867
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: make a call? Did Lebron James make a call? How

868
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: did the Lakers end up with this superstar in his

869
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: prime that apparently wasn't really shocked anywhere else? There has

870
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: to be something deeper that we don't know about. I've

871
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: started to come to the conclusion that maybe Nico Harrison

872
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: is just really bad at his job. Jmart, what'd you

873
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 2: make of the news and the noise this week out

874
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: of Dallas.

875
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: So the audio cut that we just play, if it's genuine,

876
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 3: he should be removed from power immediately. He should be

877
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 3: taken completely out of his job because if you don't

878
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: recognize that Luca matters to your franchise, that that city

879
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: cares about him deeply, if you don't understand the lengths,

880
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: like I'm not expecting you to understand how important you

881
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: know the dude sitting on the bench that's like the

882
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: eleventh guy on the team. You know what his value

883
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: is to the city of Dallas. But if you can't

884
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: figure that out about Luka Doncic, I don't believe that

885
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: you're qualified to be in an executive role for the

886
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks. Like I feel like, and I said this

887
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 3: last night, I feel like ninety five and this might

888
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 3: be undercutting it. Ninety five percent of our listeners right now,

889
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: wherever you are in the country, probably had a good

890
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 3: sense that Luca was very important in the city of Dallas.

891
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 3: So all of you, in my opinion, are more qualified

892
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: than Nico if this is true, because this has got

893
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: to be the just this is just dumb, like this

894
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: is you have to be just complete, we blind and

895
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: just totally like out of the box on a beach

896
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: somewhere to have any like semblance of understanding that this

897
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: guy didn't matter. It's like I understood that he mattered.

898
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: I just didn't know to what level. What are you

899
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: talking about? Like, what did you not notice as you

900
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: walked around the city of Dallas? How many Luca jerseys

901
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: you were running into? Did you not see? Have you

902
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: not heard the MVP chants all the way through the

903
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 3: NBA Finals and every time he steps on the floor.

904
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: Have you like this is not difficult, Like this is

905
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: not rocket science. We're not talking about things that are subjective.

906
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: We all could have said this, and so you know,

907
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,479
Speaker 3: I think every time he opens his mouth that's worse.

908
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: And he's a general manager than honestly at this point,

909
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,959
Speaker 3: just take the l and go away, like, go into

910
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 3: the background, go home. I don't know what your hobby is, Nico.

911
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if you play katan, I don't know

912
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 3: if you fish. Maybe you've got putting green in your backyard.

913
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is you do, man, but

914
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 3: what you need to not do anymore is sit in

915
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 3: front of a microphone and try to explain the unexplainable,

916
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: like there's no it's over. The history has been written here,

917
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: the gavel has dropped. There is no fix here. There

918
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 3: is no win here. There is no there there, like

919
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: stop like right now, just cease all communication as it

920
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: relates to this. There is no answer that is gonna

921
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: fix this. There is no answer that's gonna make it

922
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: better or magically make it all make sense, like there

923
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: is nothing here at all, which is why when you

924
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: really look at it, it's just like he's either as bad

925
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 3: as you could possibly be at this job, or there's

926
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: more to this than meets the eye. And the only

927
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 3: other thing I'll say is, and I sent you this article,

928
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: and I'm sure you read it too. But ESPN put

929
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 3: out that long article about you know, where it went

930
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: started to go wrong with Luca and what was happening

931
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: with the MAVs behind the scene, and you found out

932
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: sort of he alienated Dirk, did Nico not Luca. Nico did,

933
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 3: and got rid of their strength and conditioning staff that

934
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 3: had been you know with Dirk, and we're friends with

935
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 3: Dirk and friends with Luca and all this stuff. Like

936
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: that piece was so well sourced in terms of like

937
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 3: how detailed the information was that it's almost as if

938
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: it came from the team, Like there was so much

939
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: in that that it was like they had a spreadsheet

940
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: with a bunch of bullet points on it to make

941
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 3: sure everybody got it all right. Like he is the

942
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: easiest target that you can possibly find right now because

943
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: everything is against him. There's almost nothing that you can

944
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: find that actually defends him in any way. And usually

945
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 3: when that happens, that does make your spidy sense start tangling,

946
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 3: like is it really this simple or is something really

947
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: nefarious going on behind the scenes and the snake is

948
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: never going to be revealed. I'm not saying that that's true.

949
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that it almost feels like it would

950
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: have to be true for Nico Harrison to be this

951
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: like tone deaf and bad day after day, week after week.

952
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: So a couple things. First of all, the only smart

953
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: thing he's ever done is that that previous press conference

954
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: where he write video or whatever. I think they had

955
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: a court stenographer there, I don't know, but anyway, so

956
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: a couple things is one, So I really have a

957
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: bunch of thoughts. The first one is yeah, and I

958
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: just first of all, I will pseudo defend him on

959
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: one thing. I don't agree with them, and I don't

960
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 2: even believe that he fully believes it. But I will

961
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: say the part where he said Kyrie, Anthony Davis, PJ. Washington,

962
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: Derek Lively, and I forget who the fifth guys like

963
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: yes in theory Clay, So okay.

964
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good that's a good.

965
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: Yes, I will say that, and I'll defend him on

966
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: that because that was you remember this, but the night

967
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: that the story broke, details were very limited, but one

968
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 2: of the things that they were adamant about from the

969
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: Dallas side of things was, you know, defense wins championships

970
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: and this improves our And I will say, like, that

971
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: is an interesting starting five if you can keep everybody healthy.

972
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: The problem is Anthony Davis has a nickname of street clothes.

973
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving, although he has been better over the last

974
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: couple of years, is not mister reliable. You know, He's

975
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: not exactly lou Garry or cal Ripkin. Here Khlay Thompson

976
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: is thirty five years old with two major surgeries, So

977
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: I get that. But all it comes back to to

978
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 2: me is everything that you said is he's either crazy,

979
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: tone deaf, crazy unaware, and I just I sit there

980
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: and say, j mart and you know you've been in

981
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: this as long as I have. Is I do think

982
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: the public thinks that if somebody gets a job as

983
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 2: important as NBA GM or NFL GM or NFL head

984
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: coach or NBA head coach or Major League manager, right,

985
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: I think there's this understand there's this belief that everybody

986
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: is actually really good, and everybody is Eric Spolstra and

987
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 2: everybody is you know whatever, and sometimes really bad people

988
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: just get really important jobs. I was joking with Brion

989
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: Brandon in the back, is there was once upon a

990
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: time that Brandon Staley was an NFL head coach. Okay, like,

991
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: like at some point there's only thirty two of those jobs,

992
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: and Brandon Staley occupied one of them. And so that's

993
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 2: just an example of the fact that there are guys

994
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: and girls I'm sure in you know, WNBA or whatever,

995
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 2: but like, there are guys and girls that get jobs

996
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: that they're just not good enough to do. And I

997
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 2: don't know how you can take this as anything other

998
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 2: than that from Nico Harrison. And by the way, part

999
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: of being a very public facing person, whether it is

1000
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: not just a play but someone in a management position

1001
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: is having the awareness of what to say and what

1002
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: not to say. And so even if somehow someway in

1003
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 2: your heart of hearts, you really didn't realize just how

1004
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 2: important Luca is to the community.

1005
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: No way, I don't buy that one for a minute.

1006
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't say it. Yeah, don't say it publicly. Oh,

1007
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: this is a twenty five year old that we drafted

1008
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: that just led us to an NBA Finals one. I'm sorry,

1009
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: but if you really feel that way, you're an idiot

1010
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: and unqualified to do the job. But also, just don't

1011
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 2: say it publicly because there's no win there. So anyway,

1012
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: I'm going on and on. But the point I'm trying

1013
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 2: to make guy whatever. I'm sure he's a wonderful person.

1014
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 2: He's just really bad at his job.

1015
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 3: Though. I mean, I think your point is right that

1016
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: when you see somebody get a high ranking position, you

1017
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 3: immediately assume they're qualified immediately. But if that were true,

1018
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: then so many decisions that we know are bad in

1019
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 3: the moment wouldn't be made in the moment. And you know,

1020
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: it doesn't take hindsight in a lot of these cases

1021
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 3: to know when things have gone wrong. It is still

1022
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: though at the same time, it's just like can he

1023
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 3: be this bad? Like is it possible to be this

1024
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: wrong and to have just just to be completely unqualified

1025
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 3: to this degree and to have actually managed to make

1026
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 3: this decision, Like I just I am blown away by it. Like,

1027
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: but the bigger thing is just like, dude, most general

1028
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: managers in the NBA don't talk very much. Sure, just

1029
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 3: go away, like just stop talking, like, hey man, Nintendo

1030
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 3: Switch is coming out on June six, Go ahead and

1031
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: pre order, and go ahead and sit home, play Mario

1032
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 3: Kart all summer long, like do something else. You don't

1033
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: have to keep doing this. This is like ten Cup. Yeah,

1034
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 3: h McAvoy won't stop going for the green and Ken

1035
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 3: Van Toury says, somebody telling me he doesn't have to

1036
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: hit it from there, like because he just keeps on

1037
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 3: knocking it into the water like, man, like, you're you're

1038
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 3: about to run out of balls, And I'm not saying

1039
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 3: that in a in a unfortunate way on the radio.

1040
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying, you're about to run out of balls in

1041
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 3: your bag, man, Like there's there's You're about to hit

1042
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 3: the last one into the water and not be able

1043
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 3: to sign your scorecard like, there's not there's there's nothing

1044
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 3: that you can do to soften this blow. The best

1045
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: thing you can do is hope that this blows over

1046
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 3: a little bit, or at least you're not seen as

1047
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 3: like villain number one. Like I mean, we're to the

1048
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 3: point where Dallas Mavericks fans are saying idiocracy has clearly

1049
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 3: come true based on the fact that Nico Harrison had

1050
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 3: a job to make a decision like this in the

1051
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 3: first place. So yes, I definitely think though that it

1052
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 3: is true that we overvalue the fact that just because

1053
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: someone has a job, they deserve that job, or somehow

1054
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 3: earn that job, or somehow was going to magically be

1055
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 3: very good at that job, because we see way too

1056
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 3: many instances, not just in sports, where that is just

1057
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 3: flat out.

1058
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: On true, flat out on true. And it appears to

1059
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: be the case with Nico Harrison, who, of course, you know,

1060
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: is the GM of the Dallas Mavericks. Dallas Mavericks, of

1061
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: course we're eliminated in the play in their season is over,

1062
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: and as you said, Jay Marta might just want to

1063
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: go into hiding there for a little bit because it

1064
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: did not end well for the Dallas Mavericks. Fox Sports

1065
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

1066
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: Radio Studios. We'll come back. When we do, we will

1067
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: look at a busy Saturday in the NBA, including oh,

1068
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 2: by the way, one of the wildest finishes we've ever seen.

1069
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: We'll discuss it all next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: know You can stream this show and all of our

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Speaker 2: your screen. Busy day in the Association Four Games, our

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Speaker 2: Final four results are final. OKC has swept Memphis out

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Speaker 2: of the first round of the playoffs. Okasee advances Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: They take care of business against Miami. Don't think we

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Speaker 2: need to spend too much time on those, Jay mart

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Speaker 2: So I want to go straight to the third game

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Speaker 2: of the day. Tell you what, Mary Mack, I think

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Speaker 2: we have the sound ready to go. But Clippers Denver

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00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: wild game. The Clippers were trailing by basically about twenty

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Speaker 2: points going into the fourth order. You think that the

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00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: game is over. They make a wild run, then Jokic

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Speaker 2: makes a shot to take a two point lead. By

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Speaker 2: the way, Clippers come all the way back tied up.

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Speaker 2: Jokic HiT's a crazy shot to take a two point lead.

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Speaker 2: Then the Clippers tie it back up at ninety nine

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Speaker 2: a piece. Then final play of the game. Here's what happened.

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Speaker 7: Sub is on him Gordon.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna take a look at it.

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00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: If you have not seen the highlights. By now, tie

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00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: game under five seconds to go. A Yokic step back,

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00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: three air ball, Aaron Gordon out of nowhere, grabs it,

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Speaker 2: dunks it. Did he get it off in time?

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Speaker 3: He did?

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00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: The shot is called good on the floor. The Denver

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00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: Nuggets essentially a must win game trailing two to one

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Speaker 2: coming into this one, survive j Mart. First of all,

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Speaker 2: did you have any issue with the call on the

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Speaker 2: floor at the he knew at Dome in Los Angeles?

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00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I think it would have been impossible

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00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: to see it in real time, so the referee just

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Speaker 3: had to make a call. I'd be fine they have

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Speaker 3: made a call and just went straight there to see

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Speaker 3: on the replay. I still think they got it right.

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00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 3: But like listening to the audio, as great as that is,

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Speaker 3: doesn't do it justice. You have to see it if

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Speaker 3: you haven't seen it, because we're talking about one hundredth

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Speaker 3: of a second, Like it's as close as close gets.

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Speaker 3: There's one angle that we weren't shown live that we

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Speaker 3: were shown later on that the definitive angle that the

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Speaker 3: NBA used, where it is clear that the ball's out

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Speaker 3: of his hands just before the red light turns on,

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Speaker 3: like you can see it from the reverse side, and

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Speaker 3: the ball is separated from all the fingers of Aaron Gordon.

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Speaker 3: But it's the closest play you'll ever see. It's the

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Speaker 3: closest play I've ever seen in a history of basketball.

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Speaker 3: It's the first ever dunk as a game winner to

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Speaker 3: win an NBA playoff game in the history of the league.

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Speaker 3: And there will never be anything closer that you could see.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this was it was just it was just

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Speaker 3: a perfect It was perfect imperfection. Because Jokic was defended

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Speaker 3: pretty well. He threw something up that really was more

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Speaker 3: like a prayer, and there was Gordon to you know,

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Speaker 3: make amends for well, not make amends, but to just

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Speaker 3: kind of recall that he should have beaten Zach Lavine

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Speaker 3: years ago in that dunk contest. Gets it done here

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs with a big time dunk and it

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Speaker 3: had to have been like one hundredth two hundreds of

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Speaker 3: a second. It's it's hard, it's hard to describe it

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Speaker 3: if you haven't seen it. Just how close this actually was.

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Speaker 2: It made me like reevaluate do I know the rules?

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00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: Because I was sitting there, like, okay, if the ball

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Speaker 2: is in the basket but his fingertips are still on it,

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Speaker 2: like is that good? Like has he released the ball?

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Speaker 2: Does he need to release the ball if it's in

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Speaker 2: the basket. That is how close it was. The Denver

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Speaker 2: Nuggets do survive two to two. That series is tied,

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Speaker 2: and again the Clippers were trailing by twenty at various

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Speaker 2: points in the second half and could not close it out.

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Speaker 2: It's a game that you know, listen, the Clippers have

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Speaker 2: enough tortured history that you don't need. This doesn't need

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Speaker 2: to be added to the list, but it is one

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00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: like if they don't win this series, it's like, well,

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00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 2: they could have gone up three to one and literally

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Speaker 2: let it get through their fingertips really quickly. Do you

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Speaker 2: want to ask you just about the I do want

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Speaker 2: to ask you about I want to ask you about

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Speaker 2: the last game, the one that went final while we

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Speaker 2: were on air. Golden State does get a victory over Houston.

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Speaker 2: Golden State has a two to one advantage in that series.

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Speaker 2: The note here, of course, Jimmy Butler, out with the

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Speaker 2: gluten injury, did not play. In his place. Steph Curry was,

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Speaker 2: as usually for usual phenomenal self, thirty six points for him,

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Speaker 2: sixteen points off the bench for Gary Payton, the second

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Speaker 2: seventeen for Buddy Healed. Any big picture takeaways for a

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Speaker 2: game that I think a lot of people, I mean,

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Speaker 2: even Steve Curse said after the Game two loss in

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Speaker 2: which Jimmy Butler got hurt, said, you know, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to reevaluate pretty much everything if Jimmy Butler's out available,

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Speaker 2: he was not, and it did not matter as the

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Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors survived and won on Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Steph was a big time especially in the last

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Speaker 3: probably twenty minutes, but I mean he was really good

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Speaker 3: much of the night. They needed all of it. Draymond

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Speaker 3: had a pretty solid game as well. This is one

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Speaker 3: if you're Houston, you feel like you really needed to

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Speaker 3: win with Butler not being in the game. Yes, it's

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01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 3: in a tough place to play. It's always gonna be

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01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 3: tough to play in that building. But at the same time,

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01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 3: this one slipped through your fingers, like this thing was

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01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 3: very close and then you just kind of didn't have

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01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 3: enough down the stretch to hold off steps outside shooting

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01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: and just them forcing the issue on the offensive end.

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01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 3: This one felt like, all right, this is when you needed.

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01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: I know it's a road game as well, but a

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Speaker 3: lot was taken out of both teams. You had them

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Speaker 3: shorthanded and could not get the job done. This to

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01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 3: me felt like, all right, Golden State's gonna win this series.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, And that's I think My takeaway as well

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01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: is that I think if they lose this one, we

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01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: don't know the status of Jimmy Butler. You fall down

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01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 2: two to one at home, you don't feel very good.

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Speaker 2: But Houston, as good as the regular season was, we

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01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 2: know the lack of experience for lack of a better term,

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01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: on that team in these moments. You know, most of

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Speaker 2: their best players playing in their first playoff series. And

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Speaker 2: so listen, I mean, these are all conversations that people

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01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: were having prior to the playoffs of you know, Golden

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01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 2: State about as battle tested as you can be. The

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01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 2: Houston Rockets, very talented regular season team, but still have

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Speaker 2: a lot of experience to gain in this situation. Well,

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01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 2: here we are Golden State in what was probably the

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01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,439
Speaker 2: must win game of the series. They get it, They're

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Speaker 2: up two to one as they get set for Game four.

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Speaker 2: That game will be on Monday night. Golden State takes

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Speaker 2: control of this series. Fox Sports It's Radio Air Tours.

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin, we are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. Come back, go back to Friday nights. Where

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01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: are the Lakers? Interesting developments with the Lakers, We'll discuss

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Speaker 2: that next. First, though news desk the SEGA. What is

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Speaker 2: trending my friend and as you guys talked about the

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01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 2: way Denver won that game in LA against the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: There is such a thing afterwards called the pool report

1217
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Speaker 2: where somebody in the media at the game is selected

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01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 2: to be the representative of all the media guys and

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01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 2: women and be the one person to have a private

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Speaker 2: interview with the official and get his comments and write

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Speaker 2: them down verbatim in detail and then disseminate them to

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Speaker 2: the rest of the press bogs.

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Speaker 8: So that pool report interview after the Clippers home loss

1224
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 8: to Denver was with the crew chief, Zach Zarbrough, who said, quote,

1225
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 8: the ruling on the floor from us the game officials

1226
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 8: was it was a good basket. And then it automatically

1227
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 8: goes to the replay center official, who, after taking a

1228
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 8: good look at it, found clear and conclusive evidence that

1229
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 8: the ball was out of Gordon's hands when the red

1230
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 8: light came on to end the game. It has to

1231
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 8: be out of his hand when the red light is on.

1232
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 8: That's what we were looking for. It's not the cylinder

1233
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 8: of the rim. It's whether it's in contact with his

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01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 8: hand or not when that red light comes on. Question.

1235
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 8: Then so the replay official outside of the arena, decided

1236
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 8: that it was out of his hand. Answer correct from

1237
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 8: all the angles and technology they have in the replay center.

1238
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 8: So Denver beat the Clippers in LA one oh one

1239
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 8: ninety nine on a dunk at the buzzer by Aaron Gordon.

1240
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 8: Series tied at two. Then Golden State came back for

1241
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 8: a home win against Houston to take a two games

1242
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 8: to one lead in their first round or one oh

1243
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 8: four to ninety three the final against the Rocket. Steph

1244
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 8: Curry thirty six points. Oklahoma City sweat Memphis four games

1245
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 8: to none. Cleveland now up three games to none after

1246
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 8: an easy win at Miami. Everything in the NHL tonight

1247
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 8: is done because Colorado is just tied up its first

1248
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 8: round series two games apiece, shutting out Dalla four nothing.

1249
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 8: Ottawa in overtime, stayed alive beating Toronto It's Leafs three

1250
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 8: games to one. Now Vegas in overtime one at Minnesota

1251
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 8: that first round are tied at two games apiece. Tampa

1252
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 8: Bay is down two games to one now after the

1253
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 8: Lightning one five to one at Florida Today to the

1254
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 8: NFL Draft, the Browns in the fifth round today selected

1255
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 8: quarterback from Colorado Shador Sanders and defensive back from Colorado.

1256
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 8: Shiloh Sanders signed with Tampa Bay. In Major League Soccer,

1257
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 8: Nashville won seven to two against Chicago. Bryson Deshambo leads

1258
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 8: the Livegulf Event in Mexico by one stroke. Austin Hill

1259
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,439
Speaker 8: took the Xfinity Race at Talladega. The Cup Series race

1260
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 8: is back on Fox TV Sunday, three pm Eastern Time,

1261
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 8: NASCAR on Fox Everything Final. In Major League Baseball, Seattle

1262
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 8: has shut out Miami fourteen to nothing, winning pitcher Luis

1263
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 8: Castillo with six innings of work. Mariner's pitcher Logan Gilbert

1264
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 8: goes on the injured list with an elbow flexer strain.

1265
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 8: The Dodgers are seven teen and ten, tied with the

1266
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 8: Padres after an LA win eight four over Pittsburgh with

1267
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 8: four runs in the bottom of the eighth and Dodger

1268
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 8: pitcher Tony Gonzolin will start Wednesday after nearly two years

1269
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 8: out due to injury. Dodger pitcher Blake Snell is out

1270
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 8: currently with shoulder inflammation. The Padres have a seventeen and

1271
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 8: ten record after a home loss to Tampa Bay tonight

1272
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 8: four to one, Rays beating Dylan Cease who had ninety

1273
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 8: five pitches in four and two thirds. And then there's

1274
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 8: the Atlanta Game Braves in ten innings, won at Arizona

1275
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 8: eight to seven, even though a Hennio Suarez of the

1276
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 8: Diamondbacks hit four home runs, including a leadoff homer in

1277
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 8: the bottom of the ninth to tie the game. Atlanta

1278
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 8: had trailed six to two after six innings. Wild Game

1279
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 8: Braves have won seven of eight. Suarez now up to

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Speaker 8: ten home runs already this season. He's batting two oh two.

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Speaker 8: Toronto at the Yankees rained out. They'll play a doubleheader

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Speaker 8: on Sunday. We had a couple rainouts yesterday and therefore

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Speaker 8: two doubleheaders today. Detroit is seven ten, best mark in

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Speaker 8: the AL after beating Baltimore four to three and six

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Speaker 8: to two. The loss in the nightcap for the Orioles

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Speaker 8: Charlie Morton in relief. He'd been in the rotation awful.

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Speaker 8: Now takes the loss in relief. He's oh and six

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Speaker 8: already with an ERA over ten. He's making fifteen million

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Speaker 8: dollars from the Orioles this year. Today three and two thirds,

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Speaker 8: three runs allowed at Detroit, five walks as well. Cleveland

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Speaker 8: and Boston split a doubleheader Boston won the nightcab Walker

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Speaker 8: Bueller going six innings for the win. He's four and

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Speaker 8: one with the Red Sox.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve de Sager.

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Speaker 2: Disaga will be back in just one moment with his

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Speaker 2: extended update here about five six minutes from now. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio Erit towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We'll get back to

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft coverage in a minute. But Draft coverage

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Speaker 2: dot com. Coach sports all right, j mart Game that

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Speaker 2: did not happen on Saturday. Game three was Friday. Game

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Speaker 2: three is Sun Game four, excuse me, is Sunday. That

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Speaker 2: is the Lakers Timberwolve series. So you and I were

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Speaker 2: on after the Game one lost by Los Angeles in

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Speaker 2: LA last Saturday. You were on late last night after

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Speaker 2: the Game three lost by Los Angeles. So you're either

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Speaker 2: Minnesota's good luck charm or the worst thing that has

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Speaker 2: happened to the Los Angeles Lakers in a long time.

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Speaker 2: But what were your takeaways? Minnesota won sixteen, Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: Lakers one oh four. The story of course Jaden McDaniels,

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Speaker 2: whose name I screwed up many times last week. Thirty

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Speaker 2: points for the Minnesota Timberwolves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and well man Anthony Edwards made some big shots

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Speaker 3: for them in the fourth quarter. But I mean the biggest,

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Speaker 3: really biggest takeaway. First off, Lebron was great, although he

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Speaker 3: just looked like he had run out of gas a

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Speaker 3: little bit down the stretch along with that team the

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Speaker 3: last five six minutes in particular, it just started to

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Speaker 3: go away from them. But Luca had eight points in

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Speaker 3: the first half and he had five in the third,

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Speaker 3: and he was dealing with a stomach bug that you know,

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Speaker 3: had him throwing up all afternoon long, and he went

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Speaker 3: and played forty minutes in that game. My real takeaway

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Speaker 3: was he played forty minutes with that like, hopefully, no

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Speaker 3: one is going to dog him out for anything that

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Speaker 3: he did. It was unfortunate that he had a stomach bug,

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01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 3: but look, man, if you've got a virus, you got

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Speaker 3: a virus. There's not really anything that you can do

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Speaker 3: about that. You hope though, because it's a pretty quick

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Speaker 3: turnaround from Friday to Sunday. You know they'll get him

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Speaker 3: the electrolytes, the fluids. He'll be fine going in because

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Speaker 3: if they lose tomorrow, they're done. They're not coming back

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Speaker 3: from three to one. There's just no way. So, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you look at all of it. I think that it

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Speaker 3: was a wonderful performance for Lebron. He had a straight

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Speaker 3: up heat check from Town in the fourth quarter of

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Speaker 3: that game. But and Austin Reeves played pretty well. But again,

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Speaker 3: I think it just shows if both those guys in particular,

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Speaker 3: and Austin Reeves has to be pretty good too. But

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Speaker 3: if Lebron and Luca are not both firing, and I

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01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 3: mean like Luca thirty five plus or somewhere in that

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Speaker 3: neighborhood and Lebron twenty five plus at the very least

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Speaker 3: and pretty active, they're gonna have a hard time winning

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Speaker 3: any of these games. And I think that it just

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Speaker 3: showed again there's no depth there. They just don't have

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Speaker 3: a particularly stacked roster. I understand that rosters get shorter,

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01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 3: bench just get a little bit shorter when you get

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Speaker 3: to the playoffs, but if one of those dudes is

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Speaker 3: not available, they can't win. They can't win playoff games,

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Speaker 3: especially against teams that like to shoot the three. They

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Speaker 3: actually shot the three better than the te Wolves did

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Speaker 3: in this game, but Minnesota made everything in the fourth.

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Speaker 3: Nas Reed was zero for three entering the fourth, and

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Speaker 3: then he hit a couple of big time threes, and

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01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 3: the Bey able to couple of big time threes, and

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Speaker 3: he shook Lebron on the way to the rim in

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Speaker 3: the last five minutes, which again indicated to me that

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Speaker 3: Lebron was gassed because he had given it all that

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01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 3: he had and that may be a big problem because

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01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 3: he really did play extremely hard. And then they've got

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Speaker 3: to turn around two days later and play when I

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Speaker 3: think is a must win game for them with Luca

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Speaker 3: maybe still not feeling one hundred percent. This one felt like,

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Speaker 3: you know what a lot of people are probably about

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Speaker 3: to have to take back their championship is coming to Westwood.

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Speaker 3: Takes real fast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully the parade. Hopefully they haven't blocked off any

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Speaker 2: days for the parade in Los Angeles, because I don't

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Speaker 2: know how well that's gonna work out. Lakers trail two

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Speaker 2: to one. I don't really have a ton to add

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Speaker 2: other than exactly what you just said, and this has

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Speaker 2: been my take from day one, is they're not gonna

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Speaker 2: be good enough defensively. Where if Lebron and Luca aren't

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Speaker 2: both great and then you also get a good game

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Speaker 2: from somebody else, you're just not gonna win the sixteen

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Speaker 2: games that you need to win an NBA title, which

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Speaker 2: is what people were labeling them as the NBA title

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Speaker 2: favorites after that trade. Austin Reeves has twenty points, but

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Speaker 2: as you said, Luca, through no fault of his own,

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Speaker 2: was well under one hundred percent, had just seventeen points

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Speaker 2: on six of sixteen shooting. Lebron was great, but again,

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Speaker 2: he's forty years old. And I keep saying this. If

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Speaker 2: you if you go back to the playoffs two years

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Speaker 2: ago Denver Nuggets, go look at his splits in the

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Speaker 2: first half, in the second half against the Nuggets. He

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Speaker 2: just wore down in games. That's not a criticism. He

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01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: was thirty eight at the time, and you know he's

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Speaker 2: forty now. It's just it's unrealistic to expect him to

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Speaker 2: play at that level for thirty seven thirty eight or

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01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 2: in the case of Game three, forty one minutes. So

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Speaker 2: Lakers lose game three. Well preview Game four later on

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Speaker 2: in the show. But but yeah, Lakers are up against

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01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 2: the wall and as j Mark just said, pretty much

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Speaker 2: a must win game on Sunday night or Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me in Minnesota, Game three again Sunday three thirty Eastern.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Er tours Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: tyreck dot Com studios. We'll come back to Sager that

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Speaker 2: extended update you wait for every single week, it's coming

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01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 2: up next. He'll get you caught up on everything you

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Speaker 2: missed throughout a busy, busy late April day and sports

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Speaker 2: that next Fox Sports Ratio. Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio erin Torris, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studios. Shortly after the show. Podcast is going up.

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Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and you'll see tonight's

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Speaker 2: show posted shortly after we get off air. Let's not

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Speaker 2: waste any more time. News Desk to Sager. Uh if

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Speaker 2: you could give us every pick first to last NFL draft.

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Speaker 2: You got about six minutes go. There are a few

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Speaker 2: to go over, and we will get to the draft.

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Speaker 2: But something ridiculously unusual in major league history tonight happen.

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01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 2: We've had over one hundred fifty years of major League

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Speaker 2: baseball history, and pitching a perfect game is more common

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Speaker 2: than one happened tonight with one guy hitting four home

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Speaker 2: runs in a contest. Even more rare the fact that

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Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks became only the second team in modern baseball

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Speaker 2: history to have a guy get four home runs and

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Speaker 2: they still lost the game.

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Speaker 1: Oo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's because they played a super team.

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Speaker 8: The Atlanta Braves have won seven of eight. They won

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Speaker 8: the game in ten innings. And by the way, the

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01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 8: nineteen eighty six Braves were the other team when Bob

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01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 8: Horner hit home runs four of them, and they wound

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01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 8: up losing to the Expos that day. But the Statsink

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01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 8: piles on by saying Suarez the first player in major

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01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 8: league history to homer in four straighted bats in a

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Speaker 8: game and still lose. But believe me, a ridiculously rare

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Speaker 8: thing happened, and still Arizona's in the l column. To

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Speaker 8: the NFL Draft round four through seven today. To finish

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Speaker 8: things up, these running backs taken in round number four

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Speaker 8: as the state's Cam Skatabo to the New York Giants,

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Speaker 8: Trevor Etn Georgia running back to Carolina, and Tennessee running

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Speaker 8: back Dylan Samson to the Cleveland Browns. And then in

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Speaker 8: round five, the Browns selected Colorado quarterbacks Shaduor Sanders. By

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01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 8: the way, defensive back Shiloh Sanders of Colorado undrafted signs

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01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 8: with Tampa Bay. But ap answers the question, when's the

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01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 8: last time we had somebody take two quarterbacks in the well,

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01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 8: apparently it had only happened once in almost the last

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01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 8: twenty years. There's a reason, but keep going two quarterbacks

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Speaker 8: in the first five rounds. Washington twenty twelve took Robert

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Speaker 8: Griffin first and Kirk Cousins four.

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Speaker 2: I saw us that they were the first team to

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01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: take back like in other words, quarterbacks going to the

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01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 2: same team, not back to back picks. But they were

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01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: the first team since like nineteen sixty nine to take

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01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 2: consecutive quarterbacks coming off the board to the same team.

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Speaker 2: If that makes sense. I hope the next words in

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01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 2: between no team. Yeah, any quarterback, correct, that's the best

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01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 2: way to put it, okay.

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Speaker 8: Also in the fifth round, by the way, then we

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Speaker 8: had some running backs, including from Texas Jaden Blue going

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01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 8: to the Dallas Cowboys, Oregon running back Jordan James to

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Speaker 8: the forty nine Ers in the fifth round, Kansas State

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Speaker 8: running back DJ Giddens to the Colts, and a couple

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Speaker 8: of tight ends in round five Notre Dames Mitchell Evans

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01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 8: to the Carolina Panthers, and the Chargers took Syracuse tight

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Speaker 8: end Aronde Gadston the second The Chargers have signed quarterback

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Speaker 8: dj uy Angoli lay also, as there was a run

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Speaker 8: on free agents right after the draft finished. Among the

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Speaker 8: round six quarterbacks taken, Kyle McCord, Syracuse QB, a Philadelphia native,

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Speaker 8: goes to the Philadelphia Eagles, quarterback who finished at Ohio State,

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Speaker 8: Will Howard to the Pittsburgh Steelers. By the way, Ohio

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Speaker 8: State fourteen players drafted this week. Georgia had thirteen, Texas

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Speaker 8: had twelve, Notre Dame quarterback Riley Leonard to the Colts,

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Speaker 8: Florida quarterback Graham Mertz to the Houston Texans, and a

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01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 8: quarterback from North Dakota State, Cam Miller to the Raiders.

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Speaker 8: Carolina signed UCLA quarterback Ethan Garber's Auburn quarterback Peyton Thorne

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Speaker 8: to Cincinnati. Missouri quarterback Brady Cook signs with the Jets,

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Speaker 8: and the Jets got Michigan running back Donovan Edwards. Baltimore

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Speaker 8: kicker Justin Tucker not only coming off by his standards

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01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 8: in awful season, he's under investigation for improper conduct, and

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Speaker 8: the Ravens spent their sixth rounder on a kicker from

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Speaker 8: the University of Arizona, Tyler Loop, also the first kicker

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Speaker 8: off the board earlier in the sixth round, University of

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Speaker 8: Miami's Andres Borigalis to the Patriots. More on the Patriots

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Speaker 8: in a moment. We did have a punter drafted in

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Speaker 8: round number six, Florida's Jeremy Crosshaw to the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 8: Now round seven to finish things up, Texas quarterback Quinn

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01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 8: Ewers to the Miami Dolphins, Indiana quarterback Curtis Rourke to

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Speaker 8: the forty nine Ers, and the Patriots had a couple

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Speaker 8: compensatory picks late in the draft. They took a long

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Speaker 8: snapper from Vanderbilt, Julian Ashby, at number two fifty one

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01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 8: overall and the final selection at number two fifty seven

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01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 8: to end round seven, so called mister Irrelevant Patriots get

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01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 8: defended back from Memphis Kobe Minor. So there's your roundup

1493
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 8: on the Saturday. The TV ratings for Thursday and Friday

1494
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 8: were quite good, thank you. In fact, Thursday's opening round,

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01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 8: let's compare it to we recently had the final round

1496
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 8: of the Masters that was the most watched the Masters

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01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 8: had had in seven seven years, with over thirteen million viewers.

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01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 8: Thursday Nights Draft over thirteen million viewers thirteen point six

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01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 8: if you include all the TV channels and the digital platforms,

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01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 8: So it's pretty good, thank you. And then we had

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01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 8: still with Sanders undrafted interest in Friday's round two and

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01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 8: three telecasts that got over seven million viewers TV plus streaming.

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01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 8: A reminder, NASCAR is on Fox TV Sunday from Talladega

1504
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 8: three pm Eastern time. We did have NBA Playoff action

1505
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 8: tonight as Jimmy Butler the Warriors was out after that

1506
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 8: fall this week, but Steph Curry had thirty six points

1507
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 8: and nine a sists and Golden State dominated the last

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01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 8: five minutes and beat Houston one oh four to ninety three.

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01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 8: Golden State up two games to one in this first

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01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 8: round series. The Warriors in the last five minutes outscored

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01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 8: the Rockets nineteen to nine. We talked about Denver's dunk

1512
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 8: at the buzzer from Aaron Gordon to win at the

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01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 8: Clippers one oh one ninety nine. Remember there was a

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01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 8: scuffle right before halftime that included Aaron Gordon. If he

1515
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 8: wasn't held back and attempted to throw a punch, he

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01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 8: could have been kicked out before halftime of that game.

1517
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 8: Clippers were down by twenty to start the fourth, still

1518
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 8: lose by two at home. Na Kola Jokic of Denver

1519
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 8: thirty six points, twenty one rebounds, eight assists. Russell Westbrook

1520
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 8: was out with a foot injury. That series tied at two,

1521
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 8: and Oklahoma City sweeps in four over Memphis one seventeen

1522
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 8: to one fifteen. The final Jamaran of the Grizzlies was

1523
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,759
Speaker 8: out with a bruised tip. Scotti Pippen Junior thirty points

1524
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 8: Memphis with twenty one turnovers.

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01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 2: Thank you very much to say that is a crazy

1526
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 2: addendum to the Aaron Gordon buzzer beaters. He almost threw

1527
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 2: a punch. You got thrown out of the game, right

1528
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 2: right five seconds before halftime. Fox Sports Radio air tors

1529
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Well,

1530
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 2: come back, one hour left and you know what we

1531
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,839
Speaker 2: got to talk about. NFL Draft is in the books.

1532
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 2: The big story Shadoor Sanders. He is now officially a

1533
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown. But how did we get here? How did

1534
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 2: he follow the round five? What does it mean for

1535
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 2: Shador going forward? That is all next busy final hour,

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01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 2: This says Fox Sports Radio.

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01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody, our three Torres and Martin, Fox Sports Radio.

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01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 2: NFL Draft is in the books. Should mention, by the way,

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft Complete. As I just said, story of the Draft.

1548
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 3: I don't think you need.

1549
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: To Tyler Shako. Let's do a Tyler Shuck conversation here

1550
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 2: in just a minute. But Tyler Shuck is tangentially involved

1551
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 2: in the biggest story of the draft. Because the New

1552
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,839
Speaker 2: Orleans Saints needed a quarterback, New York Giants needed a quarterback.

1553
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. Apparently, Pittsburgh Steelers might just run the triple

1554
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 2: option next year.

1555
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 3: I mean they might know they're going with Mason Rudolph Man.

1556
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 2: Okay, good luck with that. That's okay, Yeah, I guess

1557
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,640
Speaker 2: they're I guess they have Mason Rudolph. What do I know?

1558
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 2: Certainly didn't need Schador Sanders because they passed on them

1559
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 2: a bunch. First round did not go well Friday, he

1560
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 2: was gonna go right, no second, third round go through,

1561
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 2: No chedor Sanders. By the way, if you missed it,

1562
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 2: Jmart was on for several hours on Friday night into

1563
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 2: Saturday filling in for Plank. Download that podcast because it

1564
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 2: was wild. Fourth round pass is still not off the board. Finally,

1565
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 2: in the fifth round, the one hundred and forty fourth

1566
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 2: overall pick. This is what happened? Is this the moment.

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01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 4: The Seattle Seahawks have traded the one hundred and forty

1568
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 4: fourth pick to the Cleveland Browns.

1569
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:19,520
Speaker 3: With the one hundred.

1570
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 4: And forty fourth pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft,

1571
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns select chedore same under.

1572
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: Listen to reaction that was courtesy of NFL Network, and

1573
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders is a Cleveland Brown. Jmart, your thoughts on

1574
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 2: either the road that it took to get us to

1575
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 2: Cleveland at won forty four or the fact that he

1576
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,839
Speaker 2: is now a Brown. I think both conversations are fascinating.

1577
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 2: By the way, we discussed both in the first hour.

1578
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 2: You can go back and download the podcast. But Jamart,

1579
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: where do you want to go with this Shadoor Sanders conversation?

1580
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 2: Because it is a wild one.

1581
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 3: I do wonder if this becomes a test case for

1582
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 3: potential draftees and it becomes sort of a warning that

1583
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 3: the pre draft process is more important than we originally thought.

1584
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 3: The interviews and things like that. I mean, you know,

1585
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 3: we've heard about bad wonderlick scores and all these things

1586
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 3: through the years, But to see someone fall not because

1587
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 3: of what they couldn't and couldn't do on the field,

1588
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 3: but simply because of perception and reporting coming from that

1589
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 3: perception based on sitting down or doing whiteboard work or

1590
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 3: whatever like that, all of a sudden, attitude means a

1591
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 3: lot more. And so I think that's one takeaway. Another

1592
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 3: one is he could have gone somewhere that did not

1593
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 3: need him. He could have ended up going somewhere where

1594
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 3: they stashed him on the bench and he never has

1595
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 3: a chance because the starter's entrenched and there's not going

1596
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 3: to be any kind of problem. Instead, he goes to

1597
01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 3: now a very crowded quarterback room where they've got five guys,

1598
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 3: but none of the other four, to me, I think

1599
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 3: are going to be able to supplant him. And so

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01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 3: it makes sense to me. Obviously he was going to

1601
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 3: do the right thing when he got drafted. He had

1602
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 3: the other video came out with him dancing and thanking

1603
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 3: God and all those things as he should do, and

1604
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 3: maybe you would have done anyway. But he seemed extremely

1605
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 3: excited to play for the Browns and all of that.

1606
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 3: But I look at it and I just think he

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01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 3: probably should be because I think he knows he can

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01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 3: win that job. And the truth is, when he gets

1609
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 3: to camp, he's gonna have every opportunity to do that.

1610
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 3: Now that they have picked him. If Kevin Stefanski sees

1611
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 3: what I think he's gonna see with his talent out

1612
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 3: there and with what they're doing, I think that he's

1613
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 3: got an opportunity to start pretty quickly and to be

1614
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 3: pretty good pretty quickly, and so he ends up in

1615
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 3: a situation where they actually can use him. And so

1616
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 3: despite you know, the money loss between round one and

1617
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 3: round five, where he could only make about four and

1618
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:05,440
Speaker 3: a half million dollars over four years, which is significantly

1619
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 3: less than he would make in one year back in college,

1620
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 3: based on his value, he's in a perfect football situation

1621
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 3: because he's actually going to be able to step into

1622
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 3: a QB one role in my opinion. I mean, we

1623
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 3: could be wrong here because we're more on the pro

1624
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 3: to door side, to say the least, but I don't

1625
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 3: look at the Browns quarterback situation and think that even

1626
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 3: if it's Joe Flacco week one, I think it's going

1627
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 3: to be Shador week six, week seven somewhere in there.

1628
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the conversations about why he fell

1629
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 2: are interesting, but I think they now take a back

1630
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 2: seat to the Cleveland brown situation. And so as far

1631
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 2: as why he fell, like you said in hour one,

1632
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 2: you know, we might get a thirty. For thirty, we'll

1633
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 2: probably get an ESPN dot com or an athletic report

1634
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 2: taking us behind the scenes to maybe some stuff that

1635
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: we didn't know. I think it was kind of a

1636
01:24:56,439 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 2: worst case scenario for him of maybe he would never

1637
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 2: really a first round pick to begin with, or maybe

1638
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 2: he was more of a fringe first round pick to

1639
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 2: begin with. It does not sound like the interview process

1640
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 2: went well. I don't think some of the things his

1641
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 2: father said helped. But I also just think as we've

1642
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 2: as we've discussed, the number of teams who needed a

1643
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 2: starting caliber quarterback were basically like zero to one. You know,

1644
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers, maybe the Cleveland Browns, who we're gonna

1645
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 2: discuss here, and we're going to continue to discuss, probably

1646
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 2: the Giant. Even the Giants, they don't need a first

1647
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 2: they don't need a starter.

1648
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 3: And so.

1649
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 2: The teams that even needed a starter is small. The

1650
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,759
Speaker 2: number of teams that would consider him as a backup,

1651
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 2: because as I said in our one, he's gonna be

1652
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: more famous than your starter, and he's gonna draw more

1653
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 2: attention than your starter. And virtually, you know, probably twenty

1654
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 2: five of the thirty two markets. So there's a lot

1655
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 2: of variables that went into it. But I think the

1656
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 2: important part now is exactly what you just said, Jason,

1657
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 2: is that outside of the fact that it happened probably

1658
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 2: three to four rounds later than sor Sanders would have

1659
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: liked four rounds for sure, it's kind of a good scenario.

1660
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 2: And you know, again what I just said a minute ago,

1661
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 2: how many teams needed a starting quarterback coming in this draft.

1662
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 2: The Titans, maybe the Browns, maybe the Steelers. That's really it.

1663
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 2: And you think about all of the teams with young quarterbacks,

1664
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 2: you think of all of the quarterback situations. This is

1665
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 2: actually a best case scenario for him. Again, technically not

1666
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 2: the best case because you would have liked to have

1667
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 2: it happen in the first round.

1668
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 3: We get that.

1669
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 2: But at the same time, there are so many places,

1670
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 2: especially by the way, when you fall to the fifth round,

1671
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 2: there are so many places that could have drafted you

1672
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 2: on potential, on upside, on the possibility, on the fact

1673
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,520
Speaker 2: that you're probably better than the backup, on the possibility

1674
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 2: that they may need a starting quarterback two, three, four

1675
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:53,560
Speaker 2: years down the road. I mean, think about all of

1676
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 2: the scenarios that he could have gone to that would

1677
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 2: have made sense. That aren't a better scenario for a

1678
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 2: young quarterback that has the potential to play next year

1679
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 2: than Cleveland. The Rams at some point have to draft

1680
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 2: a guy that's going to eventually replace Matthew Stafford. I

1681
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 2: think the Cowboys should be in a little bit more

1682
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 2: aggressive mode to have a backup in case Dak goes down.

1683
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 2: He's on the other side of thirty coming off a

1684
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 2: second major injury. By the way, the Philadelphia Eagles drafted

1685
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 2: Kyle McCord, so they want some insurance. You know, Jalen

1686
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 2: Hurts was banged up basically all this year, all last year.

1687
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 2: They want I mean, there's so many places that he

1688
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 2: could have been drafted that there would have been no

1689
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 2: pathway other than an unfortunate injury to a starter for

1690
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 2: him to play. Now, all he's got to do is

1691
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 2: show up, play to the potential that we believe that

1692
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: he's capable of playing at and he is going to

1693
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 2: have his opportunity. So again, you wish it happened earlier.

1694
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 2: You wish he had all that guaranteed first round money,

1695
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: but he is going to very much have a chance

1696
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 2: to win this job. And if he's gonna And here's

1697
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: the other variable. And I know a lot of other

1698
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 2: people have made this point, so I'm not claiming as

1699
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 2: my own, but you talk about having a chip on

1700
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,560
Speaker 2: your shoulder, I mean, you know he's going to be

1701
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 2: able to really play that nobody believed in me whatever.

1702
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 2: It's just a really good scenario all things considered.

1703
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that. The other thing, I

1704
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 3: haven't mentioned this yet, but you have this whole being humbled, yeah,

1705
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 3: discussion that everybody's out here. Oh good, he's being humbled. Also,

1706
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 3: it is kind of ugly to me, just like looking

1707
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 3: at some of the reaction that I saw in comments

1708
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 3: sections in various places when I was preparing to do

1709
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 3: Plank Show and just kind of trying to get a

1710
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 3: lay of the land. The people that are like cheering Sanders,

1711
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 3: like what's happening to him? Like what exactly are you

1712
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 3: doing it? It's just off putting, Like on every level,

1713
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,759
Speaker 3: it makes you kind of root for Shador quite frankly.

1714
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 3: But the being humbled things that he needed to be humbled.

1715
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 3: First off, you don't know it. That's probably the first thing.

1716
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 3: Maybe you don't like him because his dad talks a lot, right, whatever,

1717
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 3: but I made disappoint to you. Ashton Genty is known

1718
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 3: to be like one thousand percent character. Everybody loves him.

1719
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 3: All of these things right. He had diamond like Swarovsky

1720
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 3: crystal encrusted crocs on at the draft. Abdul Carter had

1721
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:34,520
Speaker 3: a full diamond grill in his mouth. There was jewelry

1722
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 3: that was dragging these guys to the floor. It was

1723
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 3: so heavy everywhere. And this is not a knock on

1724
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 3: any of that. There's nothing wrong with any of that.

1725
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 3: That's not the point here. The point is, this is

1726
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 3: not a room full of humility. This home of NFL

1727
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 3: Draft Ease is not a humble room. It's a room

1728
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 3: full of people that generally are used to people basically

1729
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 3: calling them deities everywhere they go because they're at the

1730
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:07,799
Speaker 3: upper echelon moving to the highest level of their sport.

1731
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 3: They've been talked about, We've seen them on television. They've

1732
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 3: walked around as if they weren't even walking on the ground.

1733
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 3: They're walking two feet above the ground on their campuses.

1734
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 3: All of these other kinds of things. They've been told

1735
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 3: they're great. Agents are telling them they're great. Their families

1736
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 3: are telling them they're great. Doesn't mean they have an

1737
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 3: overcome anything, doesn't mean they haven't worked hard. But when

1738
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 3: I see that room, I don't think humility. I don't

1739
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 3: think humble. I think these are superstars and now, especially

1740
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 3: in the NIL era and everything else, I'm not even

1741
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 3: bothered with Shador having you know, dollar signs with the

1742
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 3: squared symbol next to it. That's his brand. That's what

1743
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 3: we're going to continue to see more and more in

1744
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 3: this new version of college football. He's probably just more

1745
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 3: overt with it than most other guys are. And that

1746
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 3: comes from his dad, because his dad was a great

1747
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 3: self promoter. He was a great marketer. He was also

1748
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 3: an awesome teammate. And from what you've seen so with Shador,

1749
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 3: everything you heard about Shador it was the same way.

1750
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 3: So it's not like you can talk about humility and

1751
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 3: how Shador needs to be humbled all you want, but

1752
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,759
Speaker 3: to single him out in a room full of NFL

1753
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 3: draft ease, to me is just a really like just

1754
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 3: like pay attention, take the plank out of your own

1755
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 3: eye before you start looking there, like figure out in

1756
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 3: that room. Again, there's nothing wrong with you showing up

1757
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 3: and dressing how you want and spending your money and

1758
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 3: all that. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that,

1759
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 3: the dominant crusted CrOx that's cool, man, Like, I'm not

1760
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 3: doing that. And my wife did say when I showed

1761
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 3: to the photo, why it's just like because he can

1762
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 3: And sure, all right, I bet those are comfortable. That's

1763
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 3: a look. I don't think I could pull that off,

1764
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 3: But good on him. It's not a knock on that.

1765
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 3: It is Why are you singling out Shador like he's

1766
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 3: someone that needs to be humbled when Carson beck is

1767
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 3: driving around in a Lamborghini when he's at Georgia, Like,

1768
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 3: let's hellow our role here a little bit and stop

1769
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 3: isolating Shuduur as if the things that he is doing

1770
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 3: is somehow outrageous compared to everybody else.

1771
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 2: So a couple thoughts on that one. First of all,

1772
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 2: I totally agree. And the thing that I found funny

1773
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 2: about the negative coverage the people that were rooting for

1774
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 2: him to fail or enjoying seeing him fall down the

1775
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 2: draft boards. What's wild to me is that the people

1776
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 2: that were actually around him and forget about hey, do

1777
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 2: you know a coach? Do you know a player? Like,

1778
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 2: do you know anybody? Just take the broadcasters that were

1779
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 2: around hi. Joel Klatt was around him plenty. Lewis Riddick,

1780
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 2: who was on the broadcast, was around in plenty. Like

1781
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,679
Speaker 2: those guys say, he's about football, he's a great teammate.

1782
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 2: The guys in the locker room love him. So I'm

1783
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 2: gonna take the word of Joel Klatt, who called three

1784
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 2: or four of his games, and Lewis Riddick and whoever

1785
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 2: the other guys that were actually in the building with him.

1786
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 2: Sorry guy on Twitter with twenty eight followers, I'm gonna

1787
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 2: take Joel Clatt's word over yours, like I'm sorry. Okay,

1788
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 2: So that's one.

1789
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 3: Two.

1790
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 2: The nil thing is so inch. First of all, you're right,

1791
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 2: all these guys now have money. Just deal with it.

1792
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 2: But I do find it interesting a couple things like

1793
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 2: you said that there's somehow something different about Shador like

1794
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 2: like to me and I was talking to somebody about

1795
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,560
Speaker 2: this this week, is like, I do think there probably

1796
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 2: is a little bit of a pseudo adjustment period in

1797
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 2: the NFL for having to deal with Oh, like this guy,

1798
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 2: this quarterback's walking in my room with a chain that

1799
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 2: costs more than you know, the salary of everyone in

1800
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 2: the everyone on the coaching staff not named the head coach,

1801
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 2: you know, and like, I think it's going to take

1802
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 2: some adjustment. And I was thinking about this, is that

1803
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 2: if you remember three four years ago, and I know

1804
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:47,759
Speaker 2: you do, Jason, I'm just talking about the audience in general.

1805
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 2: Like when we started this nil era, there were all

1806
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 2: these coaches that are like, well, I mean, how are

1807
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,639
Speaker 2: we how are we going to coach these kids if

1808
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 2: if they're making more than the offensive coordinator or the

1809
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 2: core coach or whatever. And it's like, I don't know

1810
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 2: everybody's And so we're three four years into it now

1811
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 2: and everybody's sort of figured it out. Kirby Smart's still

1812
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 2: really good at his job. Steve Sarkisian has found a

1813
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 2: way to win games when his quarterback is making millions,

1814
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 2: Like everybody's gonna be okay. And I do wonder if

1815
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 2: there's some of that in the NFL right now. Of

1816
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 2: there's kind of like the trickle up effect of like

1817
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 2: college football kind of dealt with this two three four

1818
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 2: years ago, and now the NFL is seeing the first

1819
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 2: wave of it because we heard the same thing about

1820
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:31,520
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams last year, but the talent was so overwhelming,

1821
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 2: that he was clearly always going number one. And so

1822
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 2: it was like with Caleb it was like wow, I

1823
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:37,640
Speaker 2: mean he was a little arrogant and he was a

1824
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 2: little aloof and it was like the same thing with

1825
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 2: Shador and it's like, this is just the world. Now.

1826
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 2: These guys are coming in with ten million dollars in

1827
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,719
Speaker 2: the bank, and it doesn't mean that they don't love football.

1828
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 2: And by the way, for some of them, it does

1829
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 2: that they don't love football, that they're about the money,

1830
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 2: that they're about the wrong things. I will just go

1831
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 2: off again what I have been told by everybody who

1832
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 2: actually spent time around Sanders, which is that he loves football,

1833
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 2: that he was great in the locker room, that everybody

1834
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 2: was around him loved him. And I think that's an

1835
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:09,759
Speaker 2: important thing. Is like I think the NFL is trying

1836
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 2: to get their arms around. Okay, all these guys have money, Now,

1837
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 2: what does it mean. It really doesn't mean anything if

1838
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 2: it's the right guy. I don't think it's stopping you know,

1839
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 2: Jane Daniels made millions in college. I don't think it's

1840
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 2: stopping him from showing up at the facility at five

1841
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 2: am to put in the work. We'll see if Sudore's

1842
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 2: that guy. But this notion that to your point, that

1843
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 2: you can't wear a fancy chain or drive a fancy

1844
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:34,839
Speaker 2: car and still be a guy that loves football is absurd.

1845
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:35,679
Speaker 2: It's just absurd.

1846
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1847
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 3: And look, I mean his brand was about being very,

1848
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 3: very confident, but it wasn't talked about it as being confident.

1849
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 3: It was being cocky. It was being arrogant. Like everything

1850
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 3: about him you can take in different ways, and everything

1851
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 3: about most people you can take in different ways. You

1852
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 3: can read various articles, various news stories, and depending upon

1853
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 3: your bent when you start reading the story, you can

1854
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 3: approach it from a different way and take different things

1855
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 3: away from it. It just seems to me that there

1856
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 3: there came a concerted effort in the last couple of

1857
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 3: months to treat everything that came surrounding Shador Sanders with

1858
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 3: the negative lens, like everything that we can do, we're

1859
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 3: going to paint this picture. This is a picture, this

1860
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 3: is the narrative. This is an entitled arrogant, cocky not

1861
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:26,719
Speaker 3: even very good like everything was going against him. And again,

1862
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 3: what happened to the guy that was five to two

1863
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 3: odds to be the number one pick just barely a year.

1864
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 3: It was April to twenty seventh of last year, or

1865
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 3: twenty ninth rather of last year. He was regarded that

1866
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 3: way in Vegas and everybody was saying, well, who's going

1867
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 3: to have the opportunity to draft Shador in the draft?

1868
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden he's in the fifth round,

1869
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 3: and you've got people that are just like, yep, we

1870
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:49,640
Speaker 3: knew this was going to happen. It's like, no, you

1871
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 3: did not like things obviously happened. And that's why these

1872
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,640
Speaker 3: articles are going to be fascinating to read in the

1873
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 3: coming months, when some of these lips are not as

1874
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 3: buttoned up and some of this stuff starts to weak out.

1875
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 2: It'll be very interesting to see. But Shador Sanders is

1876
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 2: officially a Cleveland brown and I think both J Martin

1877
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 2: and I feel pretty good that at some point during

1878
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five NFL season we will see him

1879
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 2: as a starter for the Cleveland Browns. Again, I just

1880
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 2: keep going back to and we can put a bow

1881
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 2: on it here, like it sucks you on in the

1882
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 2: fifth But there were two to three spots that you

1883
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 2: have a legitimate job to earn a barring injury that

1884
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 2: you have a legitimate chance to earn the starting job,

1885
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 2: and he landed in one of them, it could have

1886
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 2: been a lot worse for store centers. So Fox Sports

1887
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:39,719
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1888
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1889
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1895
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1896
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Speaker 2: the from the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, including the

1897
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 2: single biggest winner. It wasn't a team, but it was

1898
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio Air tours. Jason Martin

1904
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Tell you

1905
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 2: what Jmark before we continue our NFL Draft conversation. Let's

1906
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 2: get to saga out of here a few minutes. Early

1907
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,599
Speaker 2: final update this evening, Disaga. The floor is yours, my friend.

1908
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 8: We had a four homer game in Major League Baseball

1909
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 8: tonight and the guy lost the game.

1910
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Speaker 3: Hey you.

1911
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 8: Hennio Suarez at the Diamondbacks hit his fourth homer of

1912
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 8: the contest, a leadoff shot bottom of the ninth to

1913
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 8: tie the Braves Atlanta one in ten innings, eight seven.

1914
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 8: Suarez ten homer already this year. He's batting two oh two.

1915
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 8: Tampa Bay beat the Padres and Dylan Ceeze four to one,

1916
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 8: Dodgers eight to four over Pittsburgh with four runs in

1917
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 8: the bottom of the eighth. Seattle took the late game

1918
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 8: fourteen to nothing over Miami. Cleveland and Boston split a doubleheader.

1919
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 8: Detroit swept Baltimore. In fact, Detroit's record now seventeen and ten,

1920
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 8: same as the Dodgers and the Padres. The Giants are

1921
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 8: eighteen and ten with a run on the bottom of

1922
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 8: the ninth. They won the game on Fox against Texas

1923
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 8: three to two. Saint Louis got a walk off home

1924
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 8: run from Nolan Aronado at Edge Milwaukee sixty five by

1925
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,679
Speaker 8: the Way. Former Cardinals general manager Walt Jockety passed away

1926
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 8: at the age of seventy four. Cincinnati a winner at

1927
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,759
Speaker 8: Colorado sixty four. The Rockies record now four and twenty

1928
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 8: two Toronto at the Yankees reigned out. They'll play a

1929
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 8: doubleheader on Sunday. Yes, he was drafted. Round five, Browns

1930
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 8: take quarterback Shaduor Sanders of Colorado. Shiloh Sanders, Colorado defensive back,

1931
01:39:57,520 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 8: was undrafted and we'll sign with Tampa Bay. In round six,

1932
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 8: Kyle McCord, Syracuse quarterback goes to the Eagles. He's a

1933
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 8: Philly native. Among the round seven selectees, Texas quarterback Quinn

1934
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 8: Ewers to the Dolphins. In the NHL Playoffs, overtime wins

1935
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 8: for Vegas and Ottawa also wins for Tampa Bay and Colorado.

1936
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,679
Speaker 8: The Avs took the late game four nothing over Dallas

1937
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 8: to even that first round series at two games apiece.

1938
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 8: In the NBA Playoffs, Steph Curry thirty six points, nine assists.

1939
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 8: Golden State won a game without Jimmy Butler. He was

1940
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 8: out after the fall. Golden State pretty much dominated the

1941
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 8: last five minutes in beat Houston one O four to

1942
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 8: ninety three, taking a two games to one lead in

1943
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 8: this first round series. Denver won at the Clippers on

1944
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 8: a dunk at the buzzer by Aaron Gordon one ninety nine.

1945
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 8: That series tied at two. Russell Wilson did not play

1946
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,719
Speaker 8: due to a foot injury for Denver. Oklahoma City wins

1947
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 8: one seventeen to one point fifteen at Memphis. Thunder sweep

1948
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 8: the first round or four games to none. Grizzly star

1949
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 8: John Morant was out with a bruised tip. Shake Giljess

1950
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:02,599
Speaker 8: Alexander thirty eight points in victory. Oklahoma City's record now

1951
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 8: seventy two and fourteen overall, including this four game sweep.

1952
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 8: Cleveland handed Miami it's worst ever playoff loss one twenty

1953
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:14,040
Speaker 8: four eighty seven. Caves had a thirty three to five

1954
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 8: run in the first half. Calves up three games to none.

1955
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 8: NASCAR on Fox TV Sunday from Talladega, three pm Eastern Time.

1956
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 8: Austin Hill won the Xfinity Race in the MLS Nashville

1957
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 8: seven to two over Chicago. At Live Golf in Mexico.

1958
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 8: Brice and De Shamba leads by one back to you.

1959
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,679
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Sager. Have a great evening.

1960
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:38,559
Speaker 2: Of course, The Saga will be back tomorrow with Arnie Spanier,

1961
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 2: Chris Plank, The Gang, Mark Willard, et cetera. Fox Sports

1962
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 2: Radio Era Tours, Jason Martin. We're taking up till two

1963
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 2: am Eastern, Jay mart I do want to get some

1964
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 2: other things, but it is worth noting really quick. Our

1965
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:54,559
Speaker 2: buddy Martin Weiss has tweeted some quotes from Schador Sanders

1966
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 2: into my Twitter timeline. Just want to read a couple

1967
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 2: of them to you so that everyone has a full

1968
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 2: understand of the person that they've been rooting against, you know,

1969
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 2: over the last couple of days. Quote number one. The

1970
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,600
Speaker 2: main thing I'm proving right now is that mister Stefanski

1971
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 2: and mister Barry were right about picking me, and that

1972
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm a good draft pick. Quote number two. And if

1973
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 2: he has any regrets about how he handled the pre

1974
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 2: draft process. I feel like in life, there's always a

1975
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,600
Speaker 2: way I can improve. I'm able to improve, and some

1976
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 2: of the things that I did seemed alright at the time.

1977
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 2: I could have went about in a different way. Quote

1978
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 2: number three. And if he thinks there's anything he did

1979
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 2: in his interviews that could have caused him to drop

1980
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 2: quote I think what happened was I had a great

1981
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 2: interview and had a great process with the Browns, and

1982
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,719
Speaker 2: that's why they were able to pick me. So anything

1983
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 2: outside the organization is really a non factor for me.

1984
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 2: Right now, what a jerk? Oh my goodness. So you

1985
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 2: had the same take I did. I mean, this kid

1986
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 2: must kill puppies or kick puppies and whatever in his

1987
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:58,680
Speaker 2: spare time. I mean, I don't know, man, that's the

1988
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 2: guy that everybody's rooting. Again, Staymart, that's the guy that

1989
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 2: everybody's ready against.

1990
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 3: I think, Buddy, at least Sands too, because I can

1991
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:07,719
Speaker 3: tell you and I aren't know.

1992
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 2: I think what happened was I had a great interview

1993
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 2: and find the process with the Browns, and that's why

1994
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 2: they were able to pick me. So anything outside of

1995
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 2: this organization is really a non factor for me.

1996
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, that's that's exactly what you should say, Like,

1997
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 3: now that he's been picked, the rest of it, just

1998
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 3: let it go, Like, don't Nico Harrison this thing. There's

1999
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 3: not there's no reason to go into detail on any

2000
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 3: of that. We know, like clearly things didn't go well

2001
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:34,640
Speaker 3: in these interviews, like that's very readily apparent. And the

2002
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 3: NFL wanted to make sure everybody understood that, and clearly

2003
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 3: they do. But once the Browns took him, all right,

2004
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 3: I mean, that's all that matters at this point. He's

2005
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 3: a Brown how what the Saints think of him doesn't matter.

2006
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 3: It matters to me because of who they took. But

2007
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 3: regardless of that, now all he has to do is

2008
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:55,600
Speaker 3: go try to win a job, and the better he

2009
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 3: sounds and the run up to it, the more coals

2010
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 3: are going to be heaped on the head of those

2011
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 3: that wanted to see him fail.

2012
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 2: Well, and I'll just add two quick things. Is one,

2013
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 2: if the interview process was like the whole interview process

2014
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 2: is about just saying the right thing, whether you believe

2015
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 2: it or not. Right, So, whether he was actually that

2016
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 2: bad in the interview process or not, he has either

2017
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 2: learned a lesson or he's just doing what everybody else

2018
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:20,600
Speaker 2: did from the beginning, which is saying the stuff that

2019
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 2: sounds right. And so listen, I'd say I'm rooting for him.

2020
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 2: I don't think he needs my help. I think he,

2021
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 2: like we said in the last segment, he's gonna win

2022
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns starting job sooner rather than later. Shador

2023
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 2: Sanders as the Segre just told you the one hundred

2024
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 2: and forty fourth overall pick in the twenty twenty five

2025
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 2: NFL Draft really quickly. Jmart, you know, another take that

2026
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 2: I kind of had as the draft unfolded is that

2027
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears, now, yeh are just super interesting. I mean,

2028
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson comes in as a head coach, and even

2029
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 2: before Ben Johnson got there, clearly a commitment to the

2030
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,879
Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball and to put Caleb Williams

2031
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 2: in a position to succeed. We know last year they

2032
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 2: took Roma Dunze, we know, you know some of the

2033
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:09,680
Speaker 2: offseason acquisitions that they made, They've taken offensive linemen in

2034
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:14,760
Speaker 2: previous drafts. Well, round one, the Chicago Bears take Colston Loveland,

2035
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 2: the tight end out of Michigan. Producer bri and I

2036
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:20,759
Speaker 2: were just talking about Loveland versus Tyler Warren. Doesn't really matter.

2037
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make is that one of

2038
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 2: the two, both of them have a chance to be

2039
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 2: really special, and everybody liked both of them, and so

2040
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 2: I just bring it up because another weapon for Caleb Williams,

2041
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 2: excuse me. And then round two, you know, Luther Burden,

2042
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 2: a guy that many people had projected as a first

2043
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:42,480
Speaker 2: round pick coming into the season, dealt with some injuries.

2044
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 2: I know there was some quote unquote character concerns. I'll

2045
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 2: leave that for another conversation. We've talked enough about character today.

2046
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 2: But Luther Burden, who is a first round talent, goes

2047
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:55,599
Speaker 2: off the board at thirty nine, also in the first

2048
01:45:55,720 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 2: round in offensive tackle out of Boston College. First three

2049
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 2: picks on top of everything else that you've done for

2050
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams a tight end, a wide receiver, and offensive tackle.

2051
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:09,600
Speaker 2: I don't know how good Caleb Williams is, Jmart, but

2052
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be pretty much out of excuses

2053
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 2: if things don't go well this year.

2054
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yea. You mentioned this to me Friday evening,

2055
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 3: and I basically talked about it last night when I

2056
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 3: was in for Plank and I mentioned that it came

2057
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 3: from you, and I agree, like you look at it,

2058
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 3: he goes tight end Loveland, who we all like and

2059
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 3: who seemed like he made every big catch. JJ McCarthy

2060
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 3: needed him to, especially two years ago at Michigan, but

2061
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 3: just has been a major force there. You can bring

2062
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 3: him in, He's gonna be a pass catcher for you.

2063
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 3: And then Luther Burden, who had like twelve hundred some

2064
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 3: yards two years ago and then he kind of tailed

2065
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 3: off last year, but I think that was a function

2066
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:53,040
Speaker 3: more of the offense just not being quite the same.

2067
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 3: But you know what he's capable of. And then you

2068
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 3: go get an offensive tackle that has had a lot

2069
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 3: of starts at ballon college in his career, so you

2070
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:04,680
Speaker 3: give him protection, you give him two more weapons after

2071
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,680
Speaker 3: drafting him somebody last year, and you give him the

2072
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:11,440
Speaker 3: head coach that just had that incredible run in Detroit

2073
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 3: as the offensive coordinator, a guy who knows the division

2074
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 3: because he's been coaching in it for years and exactly

2075
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 3: the antithesis of what you have with Matt Eberflus last year.

2076
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 3: We all agree, at least this show does that that

2077
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 3: guy should not have been coaching Caleb Williams last year.

2078
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 3: That was Brandon Stay two point zero in terms of

2079
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 3: wasting a year of someone's career, and it could have

2080
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 3: been a massive setback for Caleb because he should not

2081
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 3: have walked in with a coach that was, in my opinion,

2082
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:42,800
Speaker 3: a lame duck anyway, but somebody that was not likely

2083
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 3: to maximize what he could do as opposed to getting

2084
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 3: a fresh start with your new quarterback and a new

2085
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 3: head coach with an offensive mind or at least having

2086
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 3: the right system there. But now you bring in Ben Johnson,

2087
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 3: who watched him last year and I think probably wants

2088
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 3: to use him in every way imaginable, and then you

2089
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 3: give him all these weapons on top of that, you

2090
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 3: have to like it. But to your point, the pressure

2091
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:13,600
Speaker 3: is on Caleb Williams now because you're not gonna be

2092
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 3: able to look around and say, well, it's the coach

2093
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 3: and they don't have a good offensive philosophy. No no, no, no,

2094
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:20,720
Speaker 3: no no. At this point, Caleb's gonna have to put

2095
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 3: up or shut up. Let's just get that's just how

2096
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 3: it's going to be.

2097
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 2: It is how it's gonna be. And by the way,

2098
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:28,600
Speaker 2: some of it, I should be fair, is going to

2099
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 2: be on Ben Johnson, Like we'll see how he handles

2100
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 2: the transition. But you know, if he's still calling plays,

2101
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 2: I still feel confident in that ability. The only thing

2102
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 2: I'll really add on the Caleb Williams and Chicago Bear

2103
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:43,680
Speaker 2: situation is I just love and this is something that

2104
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,599
Speaker 2: I think the last couple of years has really kind

2105
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 2: of become a thing as we realize how important the

2106
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 2: quarterback position is. I mean it's always been important, but

2107
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 2: I mean there used to be so many quarterbacks that

2108
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 2: just got drafted, that just had no chance because of

2109
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 2: the coaching staff, because of the position they were in,

2110
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 2: talent around him, whatever. And it feels like the last

2111
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 2: two or three years, whether it was the Chargers with

2112
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, whether it's Caleb Williams, I think even Bryce Young,

2113
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:13,400
Speaker 2: you know, draft wide receiver in the top ten for him.

2114
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 2: You're putting these players, by the way, the Texans adding

2115
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs last offseason, like all these young quarterbacks are

2116
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,880
Speaker 2: being put in position to have success. How about the

2117
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers actually taking an offensive skill position player

2118
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 2: in the first round. So I'm happy to see all

2119
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 2: of these guys put in position to succeed. And now

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Speaker 2: it's on Caleb Williams. Now, it's on Jordan Love, now

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Speaker 2: it's on whoever it may be. But I'm excited to

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Speaker 2: see I'm excaded to see the Bears and see what

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Speaker 2: they become because there is a lot of talent, especially

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Speaker 2: on the offensive side of the ball. Really quick, since

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Speaker 2: we've referenced it a few times. I don't want to

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01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 2: go from positive to negative? Do you want to do

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Speaker 2: two minutes on Tyler Shuck?

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Speaker 7: Though?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to do two minutes on Tyler Shuck?

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01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:55,799
Speaker 2: And and we'll bring in Brie here in a second.

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Speaker 2: But I'll just say this because and I'll steal a

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Speaker 2: take from you. We've talked about all the winners, and

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Speaker 2: like the New Orleans Saints are the biggest loser because

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Speaker 2: there's probably well, let's put it this way, if Shor

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Speaker 2: Sanders turns into anything, it will probably almost certainly be

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Speaker 2: more than Tyler Shuck is. And I'll just be real, man,

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Speaker 2: I just don't get it. Twenty six years soon to

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Speaker 2: be twenty six years old, played seven years high school

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01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:33,720
Speaker 2: class was in Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence, by

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01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 2: the way, same high school class as Justin Field, who's

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Speaker 2: now on his third NFL team. But yeah, played seven

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Speaker 2: years of college football, made it through two seasons healthy.

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Speaker 2: One of them was the COVID season in which he

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01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 2: only played seven games. Not only do I not get it,

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01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 2: but like the other thing about it is he might

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Speaker 2: actually have to play next year because we don't know

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Speaker 2: what that's going on with Derek Carr. It's just a

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Speaker 2: train wreck that I don't understand.

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Speaker 3: And I saw when I saw him get drafted. I

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01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 3: was like, man, I did not know that Josh McCown

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Speaker 3: was actually draft eligible right now, twenty six years old,

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Speaker 3: a rookie. And I saw what Kellen Moore had to say.

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Speaker 3: Kellen said, you know, Shador was right in those conversations

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Speaker 3: that we were having. We just felt like Tyler was

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Speaker 3: the right fit for us. I was like, Okay, I'm

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01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 3: gonna need you to explain. There are a lot of

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Speaker 3: people that I saw that said, oh, what a great

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Speaker 3: pick by the Saints. So I'm just like, dude, you

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Speaker 3: did not know that dude could walk in here with

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Speaker 3: a shirt that said my name is Tyler Shuck and

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Speaker 3: you would not be certain that that was Tyler Shuck

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01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 3: because four or five months ago, no one knew who

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Speaker 3: he was. And I'm obviously speaking, I'm not saying no

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Speaker 3: one on Earth, but by and large, a lot of

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Speaker 3: the people commenting I'm not talking about draft experts here,

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01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:53,680
Speaker 3: I'm talking about lay people acting like they've watch You

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Speaker 3: have not watched four quarters of Tyler Shuck football at Louisville.

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Speaker 3: I fail to see where that rise came from. Dart.

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Speaker 3: He was talked about before the season, right, he was

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Speaker 3: like a twelve fourteen to one favorite to maybe be

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Speaker 3: the number one overall pick in those in the betting

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Speaker 3: odds that Shador was number one in He was right

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01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 3: there with cam Ward and some of these other guys

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Speaker 3: drew Allard by the way, it was twelve to one,

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Speaker 3: So that was interesting to note. But Tyler Shuck, like,

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01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 3: what did Louisville do last year? I mean, they were fine,

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Speaker 3: It wasn't anything particularly special. Tyler Shuck is going to

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Speaker 3: go into the NFL and he's going to play in

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Speaker 3: New Orleans and he's going to continue to make the

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Speaker 3: Saints kind of boring, like I don't see anything there.

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Speaker 3: And to me, that's where Sanders made the most sent

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01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,679
Speaker 3: because put him indoors. If you think that his arm

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01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:47,679
Speaker 3: is not all world elite, like he's not Josh Allen

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01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 3: out there, then don't put him in the weather. Go

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01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 3: ahead and put him indoors. I saw what was it

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Speaker 3: Matt Miller ESPN. I think his comparison for Shador, his

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01:52:55,960 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 3: pro comparison was Jared goff irrespect that Gos's been pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Indoors if nothing else, he was pretty good in LA

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01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 3: in my opinion too. But he's actually obviously we know

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Speaker 3: what he's done with the Lions. You had a chance

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01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 3: to put Shador Sanders indoors where you've seen another guy

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01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 3: didn't have a huge arm and Drew Brees succeed pretty

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01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:17,320
Speaker 3: well for a long time in the NFL, and you

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01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 3: took something named Tyler Schuff and Kellen Moore says, he

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01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 3: just felt like we just felt like he was our guy.

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Speaker 3: I hope you're right, man, because I think Schador will

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Speaker 3: look good in that Saint uniform. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: what to expect from Tyler Shuck. But you saw what

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Speaker 3: I texted you earlier. I said, I think Tyler Shuck's

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Speaker 3: a boss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just when I was going through the draft process.

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01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 2: Strikes me as a guy that we spent a reasonable

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01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 2: amount of time last few weeks talking about that literally

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01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 2: has zero impact in the NFL. Fox Sports Radio ertors

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin, we are broadcasting life from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. Will come back wrap the show. Still a

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Speaker 2: lot to discuss. Busy Sunday and sports. We discussed it

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Speaker 2: all next Fox Sports Radio Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcast live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Studios. We are taking you up till the top

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Speaker 2: of the hour, eleven minutes to go until Bernie Fratto

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01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 2: of The Bernie Fratto Show is on. He follows us.

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01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 2: You know, Bernie's got the goods on everything that happened

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Speaker 2: over the last three days in the NFL Draft, NBA playoffs,

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01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 2: and much more.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I wonder if he has moles. I

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Speaker 3: wonder if some of his moles have some Schadora intel. Well,

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying. I don't know, Like, I'm not trying

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Speaker 3: to tease this up for him, but I wouldn't doubt it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bernie has a lot of I was gonna say, yeah, One,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he will be talking about it less than

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Speaker 2: eleven minutes from now to lead the show. But two,

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Speaker 2: as you and I both know, Bernie has sources and

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01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:47,800
Speaker 2: moles all over sports and uh and the thing too

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01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 2: is I think a story of this magnitude. The thing

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Speaker 2: I love about Bernie He's gonna do his homework and

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01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:55,280
Speaker 2: he's not just gonna go and just spit out hot

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01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 2: takes without talking to people. So I'm guessing Bernie's got

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Speaker 2: the goods tuned. He will be on after US should

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01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:04,880
Speaker 2: mention draft is done, but draft coverage Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: Sports Jymart three NBA games. By the way, producer Breed

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01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 2: brought up a great stat in our in our chat

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Speaker 2: earlier in the day, Tyler Schuck. We were just talking

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01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:30,840
Speaker 2: about uh yeah, do not get it, but he will

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01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 2: almost certainly go down as the last player born in

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Speaker 2: the nineties to be drafted in the NFL Draft. He

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Speaker 2: was born in ninety nine. He is soon to be

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Speaker 2: twenty six years old. As we mentioned, he was in

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01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 2: the same high school class as Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields. So,

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01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 2: I yeah, congrats Saints fans. That's probably the guy that

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01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 2: maybe he's gonna be starting. I mean, I did just

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Speaker 2: say I think he's a guy that we probably largely

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01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 2: forget about pretty quickly, but he might be thrown in

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01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 2: the fire there. I mean, I'll say this in his defense,

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01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 2: much like shador In with the Cleveland Browns, Uh you know,

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01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 2: if he can play, he might have an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: do so early. So Tyler, Oh, that's true to producer's

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Speaker 2: prie point. Producer Bree refused to come on air to

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01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 2: talk about Tyler Shuck.

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01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 3: She is on it's bothered by it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a this is a what is it

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Speaker 2: not like a It's.

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Speaker 6: A sore subject for me, especially because I do believe

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Speaker 6: in Spencer Rattler a lot.

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01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this is one of those please respect the

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01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 3: family's privacy.

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01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 2: That's difficult moment. Yeah, sorry, Brie, Brie is in morning.

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01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, what is the thing? It's not

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01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 2: like like when you refuse to eat food or something

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01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:46,000
Speaker 2: until something happens, or you know, like I refuse to

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01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 2: eat food. Yeah, she's on strike. She's on a Saint

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01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 2: strike until Tyler Shuck is not on the team. Hey,

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01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 2: good news is two or three years, he'll you know,

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01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:56,720
Speaker 2: be in position to retire of just because he's he's

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01:56:56,720 --> 01:57:00,160
Speaker 2: been playing too long. But yeah, Tyler Shuck is the

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Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints quarterback. Unbelievable stuff, tell you what, Jamar.

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01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit on Sunday, busy day in

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01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 2: the NBA a couple interesting games, you know, Detroit, New

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01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 2: York Game three of that or game four, excuse me

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01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 2: of that series. The Knicks win a close, controversial Game

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01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:21,880
Speaker 2: three on Thursday. It actually happened during most of the

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Speaker 2: NFL drafts, so I don't even know how much of

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01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 2: America saw it. But Detroit obviously is not won a

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01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 2: playoff series in many, many, many years. They will need

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01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:32,560
Speaker 2: to win at home to tie up the series at

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01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 2: to a piece. Any strong takes on what's going to

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01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 2: happen in Detroit on Saturday afternoon, that's a one pm

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Speaker 2: Eastern start time, No.

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Speaker 3: I mean, not really a strong take. I think the

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Speaker 3: Knicks win, but I'm pretty impressed anyway with Detroit, especially

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01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:50,240
Speaker 3: with letting it slide out of their hands in Game one.

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01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 3: You kind of felt like, ah, man, I don't know

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01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:54,000
Speaker 3: if you come back from this, and they come back

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01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:56,840
Speaker 3: and they win in game two, and they're making this

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01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:00,920
Speaker 3: really hard on the Knicks, and I just I think

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01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 3: they came in with house money a little bit anyway,

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01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 3: But I'm coming away with a lot of respect for

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01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:09,480
Speaker 3: those players and what they are building there.

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01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 2: Cad Cunningham averaging twenty six points, eight and a half rebounds,

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01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 2: eight point seven assists, two steals through the first three

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01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 2: games in the series, The Big One, the Big One Saturday,

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01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon, three thirty Eastern Lakers down two to one.

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Speaker 2: Do they get the win over Minnesota?

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01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 3: I think they do. I haven't heard anything about Lucas

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01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 3: health today, but that probably means he's probably fine. I

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01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 3: just I don't think it's gonna be that easy to

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01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 3: knock the Lakers out if you're the t Wolves. I

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Speaker 3: just I feel like it'll probably This seems to be

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01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 3: a maybe a seven game series if obviously, if Minnesota wins,

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01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:49,520
Speaker 3: I think the series is over. I just I had

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Speaker 3: the same feeling in Game two. I just felt like

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Speaker 3: the Lakers would win. It. Feel the same way about

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01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:54,040
Speaker 3: Game four.

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Speaker 2: Really quick. Boston lost last night, Boston loss on Friday night.

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Speaker 2: Any concern going into game game four or on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: No other than they need to stop talking about how

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Speaker 3: Orlando is being physical. Just be physical back and stop

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Speaker 3: with this because no one has any sympathy for it.

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Speaker 2: Last game in Milwaukee, Indiana, but we got a guy get

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Speaker 2: out of here. Thank the crew. Mary Mack, producer, Brie

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