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Speaker 1: Places don't actually care if they actually get sober or not.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to We the Unhoused. I'm your host Theo Henderson.

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Speaker 2: This week, we're going to discuss the impact that ice

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Speaker 2: raids have had on the undocumented and unhoused communities and

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Speaker 2: what people are doing to resist and support each other.

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Speaker 2: But first on Housed News. On July twenty fourth, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five, President Donald Trump issued an executive order targeting

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Speaker 2: the unhoused community, using phrases such as endemic vagrancy and

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Speaker 2: violent attacks to demonize the unhoused community. He also generalized

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Speaker 2: and stated that the overwhelming majority of these individuals are

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Speaker 2: developing story. Details will follow. In San Diego, California, the

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Speaker 2: they are unsafe. Our last story. Chicago suburb Yorkville approved

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Speaker 2: who sleep on public property. Violators will be fined seventy

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll take you along with us

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Speaker 2: on our journey to Coachella Valley. Welcome back to Weillian House.

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Speaker 2: I'm THEO Henderson. This week we went on the road

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Speaker 2: The devastating effect on these communities has been covered very

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Speaker 1: Immigration crackdowns and ice raids are affecting California farms.

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Speaker 3: Video captured on the morning of June tenth shows federal

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Speaker 4: Farm workers have not been showing up to work, or

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Speaker 5: This has really turned southern California into the epicenter of

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Speaker 1: Were too long, we have sacrifice are how are you

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Speaker 2: Prior to the occupation of Echo Park, there was a

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Speaker 4: I'm always so honored each time you and I reunite

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Speaker 2: And it's also funny too, because before you had dealt

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Speaker 4: We believe that justice isn't handing down from institutions. It's

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Speaker 4: We're seeing that in Palestine. And you know, I kept

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and also you know, people have to remember

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Speaker 2: end of this episode, but when we come back, I'll

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Speaker 2: talk with the organizers and volunteers on the scene in

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Speaker 2: Thermal Welcome back. This is theo Henderson Willi and House

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Speaker 2: took a trip to visit Melissasadero and a fellow organizers

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Speaker 2: in Thermo, California. We got there very early, leaving Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles around five in the morning. The reason why is

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Speaker 2: that Coachella can become unbearably hot. It's important to point

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Speaker 2: this out because many of the farm workers and organizers

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Speaker 2: had a well organized hydration plan for themselves, their participants,

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Speaker 2: and for us. The second thing is location. This is

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Speaker 2: not my first time coming out to the valley to

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Speaker 2: interview farm workers and that travails they experience. My last

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Speaker 2: coverage of this community was during the pandemic. As you

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Speaker 2: can imagine, the setting tone was quite different. Back then,

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Speaker 2: there were cars wrapped around the corner, more people supplying

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Speaker 2: and volunteering, and there were bountiful services that families could retrieve.

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Speaker 2: On this visit, nearly five years later, I could not

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Speaker 2: help but observe the stark difference and the objectives of

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Speaker 2: ady A community and hiding. Plans to serve this community

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Speaker 2: have never wavered, but have needed to become much more

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Speaker 2: strategic and how may our help? Unlike pandemic era efforts,

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Speaker 2: there was no music. This time, there was humor, friendship

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Speaker 2: and community, but it was tainted with cautiousness and deliberateness.

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Speaker 2: Drive through services were still used, but unlike before, it

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Speaker 2: was rare to see full families. More often a designated

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Speaker 2: driver would come through. For other communities, volunteers drove U

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Speaker 2: hauls with palettes of food and supplies directly to those

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable attending in person. Melissa gave us the lay of

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Speaker 2: the land and introduced to me to Rock Sanna, a

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Speaker 2: longtime organizer an advocate for the farming community. Here's our talk.

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Speaker 2: This is Ceo Henderson from Widian House. I'm on the

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Speaker 2: road here again. I'm returning and to different troubling circumstances.

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Speaker 2: But I have a person here that we're going to

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Speaker 2: interview to talk about the experiences and what has been

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Speaker 2: going on since I've been here. So please tell us

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Speaker 2: your name and tell us you a little bit about

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Speaker 2: what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Okay, my name's Rosanna Chaves. I live on the west

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Speaker 3: shores of the Sultan Sea. I've been here in the

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Speaker 3: valley for twelve years and I work for Alonsano Son

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Speaker 3: at the Compass in US. We focus on priorities of immigration,

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Speaker 3: labor laws, no pesticides and violence against women and assault

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Speaker 3: sexual assault. Another important part of our job is having

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Speaker 3: distribution of food every third Saturday here and Thermal off

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Speaker 3: of Peers Thermal, California. And it's important for us to

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Speaker 3: give back to our community. You know, in Sultan City,

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Speaker 3: in this area, there's a lot of our farm workers

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Speaker 3: that go and work daily ten to twelve hour days

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Speaker 3: and this heat now, I mean it goes up to

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Speaker 3: sometimes one twenty five, one twenty seven. They're the ones

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Speaker 3: that feed us daily and they don't get to take

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Speaker 3: you know, this this food home right now because of

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Speaker 3: everything happening. There's a lot of fear as many people

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Speaker 3: that used to come here to pick up their food

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Speaker 3: we now have to go and deliver. So we also

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Speaker 3: have our U hauls that deliver the food to trailer

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Speaker 3: parks that you know where families don't have transportation. But

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Speaker 3: imagine that. You know, our farm workers they feed us daily.

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Speaker 3: So it's this is just something little that we do

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Speaker 3: to give back.

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Speaker 9: It's important.

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Speaker 2: Have you noticed any other obstacles that you find. You've

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Speaker 2: mentioned the heat, that's a bit of a fear. What's

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Speaker 2: been going on. Have there been any targets with ice

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Speaker 2: anything here.

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Speaker 3: So very close here. There was last month there was

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Speaker 3: a big raid DEA. A lot of agencies were involved,

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Speaker 3: so we don't know the details, but we know that

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Speaker 3: there was just military border patrol.

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Speaker 9: DEA are local.

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Speaker 3: Sheriffs, Imperial County sheriffs just not knowing, you know, what

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Speaker 3: really is happening. And we saw those two farms that

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Speaker 3: shut down closer to eighty first here off of the

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Speaker 3: eighty six.

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Speaker 2: Those farms were happened. We're targeted obviously those two farms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't seen any activity when we drive by,

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Speaker 3: and just everything that's on the news, a lot of

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Speaker 3: people don't feel safe.

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Speaker 2: How does this impact the consumer because I don't think

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Speaker 2: people quite understand when they go to holes foods and

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Speaker 2: all these other places, these boutique places that where that

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Speaker 2: produce is coming from. How do you think this impacts that?

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Speaker 3: Well, First, because of the different changes in weather. You know,

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Speaker 3: some of our farm workers are not working as you

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Speaker 3: know they sometimes they do work ten hours, sometimes they

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Speaker 3: get their hours cut.

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Speaker 9: But with this happening.

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Speaker 3: As far as like immigration, the raid's happening, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of vegetables you know that there used to be

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Speaker 3: like yes, a bigger volume. Some some of the farm farms,

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Speaker 3: the owners are hiring H two A workers, so h

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Speaker 3: TA workers are are coming from Mexico, South Africa, South America.

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Speaker 3: They get their visa temporary visa and they come and

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Speaker 3: work wherever they're needed. But unfortunately the local you know,

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Speaker 3: farm workers, they're not able to get their hours. So

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Speaker 3: how are they going to pay their rent? How are

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Speaker 3: they going to be feeding their kids? School just started?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's very expensive you know to get their

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Speaker 3: kids closed shoes and having food in their table. So

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Speaker 3: like today, it's very important for us to give back

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Speaker 3: to our farm worker community. And we're we're giving this

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Speaker 3: you know, water, we have baby to baby diapers, we

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Speaker 3: have formula. All these boxes here are actually because of

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Speaker 3: the heat stress issue in our area. We're giving away

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Speaker 3: electrolytes you know for families as well, so they can

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Speaker 3: add to their water when they're working. And just you know,

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Speaker 3: bringing volunteers. There used to be more than fifty sixty

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Speaker 3: volunteers and as you can see, we don't have a.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say, do you think the need is going

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Speaker 2: to intensify with all of these raids as well or

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Speaker 2: just going to you're going to see a dissipation of

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Speaker 2: it because you did mention it used to be fifty

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Speaker 2: sixty organizations here, but they are still organizations to be

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Speaker 2: shure that's out here, but it's not as the same

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Speaker 2: volume as you had. You anticipate that you guys are

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Speaker 2: going to be able to meet the need.

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Speaker 3: Or we well, we do this distribution once a month.

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Speaker 3: We also you know, as as volunteers and also as

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Speaker 3: our community leaders. You know, we we also give back

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Speaker 3: when we see a need you know of certain families,

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Speaker 3: so we we reach out to other organizations as well

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Speaker 3: to collaborate with them to be able to get those resources.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, baby to baby, usually fifty to sixty

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Speaker 3: people show up to help us, and right now there's

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Speaker 3: probably about twenty of us or less. So it's just

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Speaker 3: really important for us to be able to be more

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Speaker 3: organized give back to the ones that feed us every

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Speaker 3: day that thanks to our farm workers, we eat every day.

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Speaker 3: And also another concern recently, and when I went to

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Speaker 3: the store in Coachella, there was a family living in

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Speaker 3: a car within this weather. So you know, farm workers

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Speaker 3: are losing their homes. You know, they're hardly able to

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Speaker 3: pay their rent or there's about in one household you see,

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Speaker 3: like different families to be able to make it. You know,

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Speaker 3: the rent is very high and if they're not getting

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Speaker 3: their hours or because of this happening with immigration, they're

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Speaker 3: not able to go to work. You know, how are

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Speaker 3: they going to provide for their family. When I saw

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Speaker 3: this family, I.

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Speaker 9: Mean they.

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Speaker 3: They got off the car, they had everything very organized

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Speaker 3: in their trunk. They were starting school, so they were

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Speaker 3: getting ready for school. You saw the mom doing one

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Speaker 3: of the young girls hair. That was heartbreaking, like to

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Speaker 3: see that it should not be happening.

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Speaker 2: I was making the distinction earlier about the lack of

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Speaker 2: the times they're a targeting financially or house and secure

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Speaker 2: farm workers. But I'm also bringing up and I have

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Speaker 2: to bring up the undocumented unhoused community members that are

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Speaker 2: already un housed living in like the encampments that was

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Speaker 2: out recently heard about it what hear Dice was going

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Speaker 2: into with the encampment rates and targeting undocumented and it's

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Speaker 2: very simple when they say if you don't have your

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Speaker 2: papers and things, where some people have family nucleus that

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Speaker 2: could be able to wonder where their families are. But

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Speaker 2: imagine if you an undocumented, an unhoused person that don't

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Speaker 2: have family ties. You don't have families coming in checking

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Speaker 2: on you, and you get snatched, then there's not really

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Speaker 2: no one to speak for you or to speak out

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Speaker 2: to say this is wrong. And I want to point

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Speaker 2: out and to say that is wrong. It's just you

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Speaker 2: just don't see them, because most people have a very

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Speaker 2: negative viewpoints of people living on the streets that are unhoused,

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Speaker 2: or they don't think that they're working, or they are

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Speaker 2: not worthy of being showing the same kindness and empathy

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Speaker 2: as what's going on right now.

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Speaker 3: So yes, and you know, and then a lot of

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Speaker 3: the farm workers because of their status, they're not able

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Speaker 3: to get food stamps or snapped. You know, they're not

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Speaker 3: able to get a lot of those resources. So and

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Speaker 3: one of the main purposes, you know, also is working

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Speaker 3: and learning from other people and also like teaching, teaching

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Speaker 3: them we all have rights, you know, no matter what

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Speaker 3: our color is. Is so aliansa national if you get it,

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Speaker 3: you know, if everybody gets a chance to look us up,

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Speaker 3: it's alansa national compassing us amazing organization and our executive

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Speaker 3: director has taught us, you know, it's like we learn

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Speaker 3: every day. We have sometimes Facebook lives, you know, where

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Speaker 3: we will have.

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Speaker 9: A webinar, you know, in certain topics.

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Speaker 3: And I think right now we're seeing that it is

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Speaker 3: a necessity to be speaking about what are the needs

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Speaker 3: of our community, our farmworker communities.

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Speaker 2: They're looking for more resources like water and different other

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Speaker 2: food and amenities and the help as well as they're

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Speaker 2: also looking for volunteers. So if your organization or mutual

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Speaker 2: aid group wants to create a fundraiser or wants to

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Speaker 2: reach out, there's a way to contact them. They have

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Speaker 2: a website, they have it on Instagram. Is there anything

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Speaker 2: else that I missed before? We check on.

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Speaker 3: Out just to stay positive and you know, if you

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Speaker 3: have a chance to go and volunteer and help out

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Speaker 3: an organization, come come visit us here. You know, every

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Speaker 3: third Saturday, we're in Thermo off of Peers. We'd be

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Speaker 3: glad to you know, to meet you and or reach out.

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Speaker 9: You're able to donate on our website as well, and.

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Speaker 3: We would greatly appreciate that to continue helping each other.

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Speaker 3: You know, God always provides, and if we have a

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Speaker 3: little extra, why not give back to our community that

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Speaker 3: feeds us every day?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? So much to Roxanna for her time and

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Speaker 2: her work. After observing the operations, I spoke with longtime

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Speaker 2: farm worker and volunteer Sonya, with Roxana as translator. We

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Speaker 2: spoke about why this work is so close to her heart.

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Speaker 2: Who do we have in this on the scene today.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's in the studio, but I'm not

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Speaker 2: in the studio today. I'm out of the scene. So

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Speaker 2: who do we have here today?

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Speaker 10: Machine so bien so.

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Speaker 3: My name is son Campus.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday I feel good?

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Speaker 2: So what motivates you to come out on a hot saturday?

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Speaker 11: La comida a la latina is thereos agricultura they jose

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Speaker 11: is na.

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Speaker 3: So I'm here for our community, for our farm workers,

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Speaker 3: for low income families. And she's happy to be here.

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Speaker 3: She is a farm worker as well, so she knows

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Speaker 3: what a box of vegetables and food is in a

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Speaker 3: farm workers household.

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00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: Why did you join this community?

653
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 11: Ah, pok you Crassillo, my familia so mus jo crisi

654
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 11: in Familia commerciante and in prema gusta laane ajuda, lajandi

655
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 11: buscar a jura, pajand is a member of Grado.

656
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 3: So she her she comes from a family, a big family,

657
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 3: and a lot of them have their own businesses. But

658
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: for her as well as her family, they like to

659
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 3: give back and they like to help others.

660
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 6: And that's what she's here.

661
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: Have you noticed any uptics ice or any uptics with

662
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: the damage that's caused by ice, or have you seen

663
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: anything that caused any cause of alarm?

664
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 11: I should say see yesino mal porque uhlent mosaki apoyareste

665
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 11: pais can no sabbien doing gles benendo assist in do

666
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 11: comentos and Tom says, uh latritza veta mikomunida, l presidente

667
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 11: el trabajo ke non com field solos rico and come

668
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 11: okay armanos the lispano, the Latino, and Tom says.

669
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 10: Liguentes chat.

670
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: So yes, she has seen raids and she's seen how

671
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: you know the families are being treated. Yes, due to

672
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: their status, they're not We're not criminals, she says.

673
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 6: We're here to work. We're here the do the work

674
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 6: that people you know what status, are not able to do.

675
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: And it's really she feels sad that, you know, she

676
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 3: she sees that that's happening where you know, people are

677
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: being mistreated thrown on the ground, punched and treated the

678
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: way they shouldn't be.

679
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 10: You go tambien.

680
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 11: Sali little doctor, ego boyo, ego boy.

681
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 10: Que take me.

682
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: So in her community, she's saying that her neighbors do

683
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: not want to go outside, They don't want to go

684
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 3: get groceries, they don't want to go to the doctor.

685
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 3: So she's taking the role where she goes and knocks

686
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: at the doors and says, do you need something? You know,

687
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: you need me to pick something up for you. They

688
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: give her money and then she goes and picks up

689
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 3: whatever they need, buys whatever they need, and brings.

690
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: It back to their home that you worried for her

691
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: own sake. She's a farm worker herself and she's noticing

692
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: these rates. Is there any precautions that she takes that

693
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: limits that kind of interaction?

694
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 10: See see see pork co uh.

695
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 11: Ngo documentos pectando uh medical for America for Caper administration,

696
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 11: vicious publicado, the avertis and.

697
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 10: Covererti goos se pero.

698
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 11: Mexico Americina or a key Bukara Medicina America for me

699
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 11: palia verti lego venda was a minister.

700
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: Affect So the way that she's being affected tremendous is

701
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: with insurance she does have, she's a resident, she has

702
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: her you know status, and at the same time, she

703
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: was not able to qualify for medical now so due

704
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: to the new administration.

705
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 6: So she's having to go to Mexico and get her medication.

706
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 3: She has diabetes, she has high blood pressure, and lately

707
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: she was diagnosed with vertigo. So she also finds like

708
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: if someone that has diabetes that has me extra medicine,

709
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 3: she buys it from them. So that has been a

710
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 3: huge impact in her life.

711
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 10: She may alisa.

712
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: Ar don't they So she has to get her test

713
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: done every three months and it's three four five thousand dollars.

714
00:44:52,520 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 11: Sometimes Evoya Mexico, Marinequea and Minnestona Minis.

715
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: So she's saying that she goes to Mexico because that's

716
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: the only way that she's able to afford it, but.

717
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 6: That here it just would not be possible.

718
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 3: And she also mentions that due to the new administration

719
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: that the jobs are very scarce.

720
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: Why do you suspect that it's the jobs are becoming scarce?

721
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 9: Four?

722
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 11: Kan administration is socialist.

723
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 6: This new administration is checking the social securities.

724
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 11: And let's see two ten soon press press and documentalmina

725
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 11: midd dollars per persona can documentoses las compan.

726
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 10: Comonoi benta.

727
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: So the ranchers are getting fined five and six thousand

728
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 3: dollars per person that does not have status. So if

729
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: they run the social they they'll get fine. And so

730
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: the produce is also like a lot lower it's and

731
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: so the the ranchers don't have the same type of

732
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: sales the produce. So that means that he doesn't have

733
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: farm workers that are harvesting as they used to before

734
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: this administration.

735
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: Do you see this becoming progressively worse or do you

736
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: see this there's going to be a limit of what's

737
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: going on with this administration.

738
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: I believe it's going to get Worseda why because of

739
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: the raids is the.

740
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 10: Village with all the ninos.

741
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 6: So she doesn't feel like it's going to get better.

742
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 3: And what's going to happen, you know, because of these rates,

743
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: people don't want to go to work, and how are

744
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: they going to pay for their rent, for their insurance,

745
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: for their day care.

746
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 6: You know, for the needs.

747
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: Let's say, for example, it does get worse and people

748
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 2: are not able to pay their rent and their food.

749
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: Then the issue becomes that they are going to be

750
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: displaced and unhoused. The President recently had off an executive

751
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 2: order to force unhoused people into involuntary commitments, involuntary shelters

752
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: or or if they don't comply, they can go to jail.

753
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: Do you see that if this happens, continues to happen,

754
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: do you see that there's going to be a connection

755
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: with the the undocumented community. Are they going to start

756
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: to target them not only deporting them, but setting them

757
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: to jail or being poor?

758
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 10: Your piens tanta prascion for.

759
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 11: Pien for is supa worque porque ciego so rita tra

760
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 11: vaja lepos esposa perotina Milo.

761
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 10: Okay la persona sale b.

762
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 11: Aura, bargan siento sinto dolares alacemana. Don't they see apartamento.

763
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 10: Dolares And so says La.

764
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: So she's saying that because of the pressure of right now,

765
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: of of what's happening, if it's like a couple two

766
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: of them go to work right now, they may start

767
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: changing where one of them is going to work, but

768
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: they're still going to be afraid of getting detained. So

769
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 3: if they're getting paid six seven hundred dollars a week,

770
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 3: but their rent is like eight hundred dollars and one

771
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 3: of them gets taken.

772
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 6: What's going to happen? You know, if only one person

773
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 6: is working, and so says.

774
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 10: Litan minok.

775
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 11: Mitosira, so quest them estandition o meho get to Salagas

776
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 11: for important.

777
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 10: Mexicano the naosaki.

778
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: Pero. So with the administration now, it seems like a

779
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 3: lot of people may choose to self deport because the

780
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: administration is saying if you don't and you get deported

781
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: or you get caught, you have to sign a paper.

782
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 3: So even if your kids are you as citizens, you

783
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 3: will never be able to get your papers because you've

784
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 3: been deported.

785
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 6: Instead of self.

786
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 10: Deporting, then una uh.

787
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 6: There's one couple that I know that Immigration.

788
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 11: La senorjuelaia Yak takes for porto okayn pios.

789
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: So this couple was reported the mom said, you know,

790
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: I can't leave, you know, I have my kids at

791
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 3: school and that the agent said, well you don't want

792
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: to leave because your kids are here, Well we're going

793
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 3: to have your kids go with you as well, and

794
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 3: the entire family left to Mexico.

795
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: I was going to say, how does you think this

796
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: is going to impact the children? But you already asked

797
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: to answer that question. Is there anything to prepare your families? Uh,

798
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: now for the new reality? Like, for example, children, if

799
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: something happens to one of you guys, you know, have

800
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: you started to put in place protocols or systems that

801
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: they can be taken care of if just in case

802
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: things like that, Because this is another conversation a few

803
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: years ago, even though they may have been raids and

804
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: things going on, but this has been accelerated to a

805
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 2: different degree.

806
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 3: So he star pensando, and so I'm letting her know,

807
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 3: like with our meetings part of our job as well,

808
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 3: with we have like some of the workshops or some

809
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 3: of the meetings that we have with policy and advocacy.

810
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: So a legal document that allows a family member or

811
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: friend to be able to take care of their kids if.

812
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 6: They do get reported.

813
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: That was that was exactly where I was leading to

814
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: because as a former educator that if this is something

815
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: like this happens, someone comes up to try to get

816
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: the children, that's not always going to be It's not

817
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: going to be easy to get your children because the

818
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: law is going to be very clear that either you

819
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: or your or the spouses or the person that's on

820
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: the list is the one that get the kid. And

821
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: if you don't have that in place, they can be

822
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 2: put into a different system called the CPS system, which

823
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: is another nightmare for a lot of the families.

824
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: So you know, yo, go with.

825
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 6: Spana me as Hispanic, I would leave with my kids.

826
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: You're way up and we are in a country that's

827
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 3: very liberal and I'm not going to leave my kids

828
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: and you know where they can.

829
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 10: See ora esta rita.

830
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 11: Propos paris alight do you know, profession if.

831
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 3: You see now that some parents are abusing their own kids,

832
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 3: I would never leave my kids with anyone else.

833
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 10: Hm sexual.

834
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 6: Actually Beorencia domestic.

835
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 10: Violence Joe Joe.

836
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: With kids?

837
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, yes, benso prosai okay okay marabillos or no simplement

838
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 11: uh of ten mehors CAUs us tenis into casta tokaro

839
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 11: to cosina tous la.

840
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 10: Temple.

841
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: It's not that dream like everybody says that it's a

842
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 3: dream to be here in the United States. You know, yes,

843
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 3: it's easier for you to have your home and you

844
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 3: have your car and your furniture at home, but in reality.

845
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 10: Come on, joe yabb Americana like me.

846
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 11: The Steps Mephobian Mepho, no Domino Esposo Domestica Sanos Hamas

847
00:54:49,480 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 11: Conadian grass grass stepast Atlante h e yo, the CPS

848
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 11: CEO Mexico Meels.

849
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: I have to say that I am very grateful to

850
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,479
Speaker 3: you know, living here, I have lived the American dream.

851
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 3: I've been able to have my house, my car. I

852
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 3: went through domestic violence. You know, at one point I

853
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 3: had my boyfriend and I'm my husband, and I had

854
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: my child when she was three years old. She went

855
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 3: through a separation. Now you know, she's lived a good life.

856
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 3: You know, this country has been good to her. So

857
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 3: she's very appreciative about that.

858
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 10: The mild.

859
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 11: Compecinas porquea from Granta for in me for Vexica.

860
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 3: So when I divorced my husband, I have to say

861
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 3: that I'm very grateful to my executive director, Milie Trevino.

862
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: She was able to help me and she helped, you know,

863
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 3: with domestic violence resources.

864
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: Oh this was such a very riveting conversation, and I

865
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: thank you for your time. I'm going to obviously return again.

866
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: Now you need to.

867
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: Yes is yes, yes, He is Thank you so much

868
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: to Sonya for sharing her story after Roxtanna for translating,

869
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: and when we come back, I'll check back in with Melissa.

870
00:56:54,560 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Weedy and House. Aftero Henderson, Let's check

871
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: back in with the longtime guest organizer and friend who

872
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 2: welcomed us to cover the story. He has more by

873
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: chat from Melissa Osado. What I've been noticing most recently

874
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: with the president is he's always leading with the dehumanation

875
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: propaganda campaign.

876
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 4: That's the first thing.

877
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's important for him because his supporters

878
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: have a hatred for anything different. Yes, but in order

879
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: for them to justify the horrific treatment because they know

880
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 2: what's happening. I was having a conversation with someone else

881
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: and they were upset because they voted for him, but

882
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: their family members was being deported and things like that.

883
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 2: I said to them, you knew that he was hurting

884
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: other people, and it was okay, that's why you voted

885
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: for him. But when they started hurting you, then all

886
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: of a sudden you are upset. Like But the bottom is,

887
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: we need to understand our society needs to have an

888
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: upsurge of empathy. If you know I mean, we don't

889
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: have it, and we need to start to develop that

890
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: in order to understand we are interconnected. Which is while

891
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: I keep bringing back the immigration conversation, is if you

892
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: can sit there and watch four and five year old

893
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: being snatched out of first grade and the president and

894
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: these leaders are saying that they're looking for MS thirteen

895
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: gang members, come on, you know that that's not right.

896
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: And it doesn't take You don't have to have a PhD.

897
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: You don't have to finish college to know that that's wrong.

898
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: You're attacking pregnant women, You're going into hospitals. Doesn't mean

899
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: because you do the right thing, you're going to be

900
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 2: treated right. You're part of the system. You just delusionally

901
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: believe that you're just going to be different. Investment in

902
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 2: their own impression is so I keep trying to even

903
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: in an unhoused community, I've been trying to help dismantle that.

904
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: I know that's an uphill battle because there's no unhoused person,

905
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 2: there's a monolift, but it's a pernicious kind of conversational

906
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: point that's really hard for some of us to overcome.

907
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know again, even expanding are definitions of what

908
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 4: someone yet like someone who's who who was in the house,

909
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 4: even if someone is living in in someone's roof, but

910
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 4: it's not theirs. You know that that we again or

911
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 4: in a car coush commitment, those kinds of things. And

912
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 4: then again going back to farm workers, I keep going

913
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 4: back to the migration piece. A lot of them live

914
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 4: in their cars or if not, I've been I've been

915
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 4: seeing and and THEO will come out with us soon.

916
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 4: I really want have been asking the to come out

917
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 4: to Coachella Valley and Oxnard soon. Is that I also

918
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 4: have beginning to see. It's been worrying me because I've

919
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 4: been seeing an uptick of tents or like these, these

920
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 4: these structures next to the fields and more RVs. So again,

921
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 4: these are things that I really naturally see right in

922
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 4: organizing in LA and so it's been great to be

923
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 4: able to like.

924
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: Now start to follow the trend correct.

925
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 4: And this is something I think, for some reason I

926
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 4: fe like as someone in food, I think it's our responsibility,

927
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 4: especially if you call yourself someone working in the food system,

928
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 4: to bridge the urban and rural divide, because what's happening

929
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 4: to our farmers and farm workers is absolutely happening to us,

930
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 4: but again they have less.

931
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: And less visibility. That's the thing. I think that's one

932
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 2: of your mid point.

933
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeh yes, the advocacy piece of this. To me, that's

934
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,479
Speaker 4: why everyone's like, why are you always in farmer works?

935
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 4: I'm like, again, right, the opening to be able to

936
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 4: educate people in the injustices that are happening to them,

937
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 4: because I keep telling people all the time. What has

938
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 4: made me very sharp in my work is the fact

939
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 4: that I am working and organizing alongside two of the

940
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 4: most vulnerable communities on the planet, meaning farm workers and

941
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 4: unhouse folks. Literally, if you want to ra all a

942
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 4: ven diagram of all the injustices in their lives, it

943
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 4: is a perfect circle. They share all of it. And

944
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 4: with farm workers it's just a tick unlike immigration, and.

945
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: Not only that too, that they're designed to be in

946
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 2: the background, so when you were able to do those

947
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: harmful things. This is why our society needs to wake

948
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: up and understand how they do. The people that are

949
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 2: not in a certain category or a certain position that

950
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 2: you believe life should be, it's easier to demonize them,

951
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: it's easier to criminalize them, it's easier to create the

952
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: narrative to justify the appalling treatments that we're witnesses. And

953
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,479
Speaker 2: you know, it's like when you're mentioning earlier about they're

954
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: training us to accept it. I think too, they are

955
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: also training us to be overwhelmed by the cruelty because

956
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: initially the conversation wasn't about people just rolling up on

957
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: people in places of worship or school, a court and

958
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 2: things like that. It just was a quiet kind of

959
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: erasure or removal. Now it's becoming much more bolder. We

960
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: have a president that is much more confident in doing

961
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: audastardly things and we have it let's let's be honest too,

962
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,479
Speaker 2: he's in bolden people, yeah, to be okay with cruel

963
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: things and doing crue things on their own.

964
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 4: Let me let me let me share something that I

965
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 4: think also, I want you to be able to also

966
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 4: speak to this community because I've been on the ground

967
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 4: a bit in Ventora County and for folks right now,

968
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 4: it's August of you know, twenty twenty five, and about

969
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 4: a few weeks ago, there was a huge raid in

970
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 4: Camadio and ox Nard and about over three hundred farm

971
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,439
Speaker 4: workers were taken during that raid. And so the raid

972
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 4: happened on Thursday at glass House, and by Saturday I

973
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 4: was on the ground in Vinsora County. And so I

974
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 4: want to share this with people because I'm working with

975
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 4: folks doing a lot of incredible work in Vincora County

976
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 4: and also trying to do their best to hold the

977
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 4: cities accountable because again, what I'm seeing is a pattern

978
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 4: of a lack of concern from local government because you know,

979
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 4: there was a farm worker who died during that raid.

980
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,919
Speaker 4: I've heard, Yes, he fell from the roof of the plant. Yeah,

981
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 4: he was an older man. Yeah, okay, And so you know,

982
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 4: there hasn't been even an official acknowledgment from you know,

983
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 4: local government on that death. People are you know, they're

984
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 4: they're kind of almost kind of like kind of trying

985
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 4: to keep their hands cleaned because they're also using the

986
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 4: fact that it's a cannabis farm. And so there's so

987
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 4: much that I witness and I can't really share much

988
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 4: because i'm talking to I'm working with attorneys, and so

989
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 4: it's not my place right now to share those details.

990
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 4: But I'm telling you the level of cruelty is just

991
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 4: people don't understand what happens to a community when you

992
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 4: gut hundreds of people from it. I've seen it, and

993
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 4: you know, they're doing it all over Los Angeles and

994
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 4: in counties and everything, and they're and they're targeting working class,

995
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 4: grown folks, and they're targeting them because they know that

996
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 4: they can just disappear them without the follow up of someone.

997
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 4: When we were on the ground THEO in Inventora County,

998
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 4: for instance, there's one one story one of the organizers

999
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 4: I was working with, an aux Nard. The day that

1000
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,959
Speaker 4: we were supposed to meet up, she had a woman

1001
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 4: frantically show up at her door at seven am, just

1002
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 4: frantically saying and the screaming like I need help finding

1003
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 4: my daughter. And the last time someone told her her

1004
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 4: daughter was sent somewhere into the bustle. We were hearing

1005
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 4: different stories from people because we went straight to the plant.

1006
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 4: We were checking out on people because the people were

1007
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 4: still trying to get into the plant to get their

1008
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 4: loved ones belongings. And these are young children, I mean

1009
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 4: like teenagers, you know, their parents have been taken. We

1010
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 4: talked to one gentleman. He said that his sister, Both

1011
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 4: his sister and her husband were working in the both

1012
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 4: farm works were working in that plant at glasshouse. They're

1013
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 4: both taken and they had kids, but they're left behind.

1014
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 4: So again, the women that I was with, the first

1015
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 4: thing in their minds were like, what about the kids?

1016
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 4: You know, think about that, Like the entire village is

1017
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 4: just uprooted, the parents gone.

1018
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: I witnessed one a situation where, and I've been trying

1019
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: to find the footage. This person wasn't even undocumented. This

1020
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: person was on vacation and they had a place of origin.

1021
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 2: They were not here illegally or any of the kind

1022
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 2: of narrative that they had. This person, I think if

1023
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 2: I remembered it from either Chile or Peru, and they

1024
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: were on the streets I believe of New York and

1025
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: I just snatched them while their thirteen year old daughter

1026
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: was just standing and they were trying to explain to

1027
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: them like, I'm not at i don't live here, I'm

1028
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: just here for ding. That's the level of a ripple

1029
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: effect that this has on tourism and everything like that.

1030
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: And they grabbed the mother and shunted her into a

1031
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 2: van and left the door, I think, thirteen years old

1032
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: in a place that they're not even familiar with. Out there,

1033
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 2: there was no kind of follow up to like, you know,

1034
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: where you are, you know, can you imagine to be

1035
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: snatched like that or to have parents come in trying

1036
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 2: to drop off their kids or pick up their kids. Yeah,

1037
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: and they tick them and the kids there.

1038
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know a lot of a lot of the

1039
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 4: incredible advocacy I've been finding out there, you know, civil

1040
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 4: rights lawyers and folks who are advocating for the human

1041
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 4: rights have been very focused on trying to get the

1042
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 4: legality around guardianship for the children and thinking through and

1043
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 4: organizing around that because it's so painful to even and

1044
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 4: heartbreakings even think about that to just plan, you know,

1045
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 4: like a possible separation from your child and who gets

1046
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 4: legal guardianship while y'all sort of you know.

1047
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: What I mean.

1048
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 4: So for me, I'm just like, God, this is the

1049
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 4: levels of this and then again the evils within the

1050
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 4: design of the whole thing. That's that's I think what

1051
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,439
Speaker 4: I want want your listeners to really understand, to really

1052
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 4: dig deep into your analysis of what our government quote

1053
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 4: unquote is doing for us, is because you are seeing

1054
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 4: a deep level of evil and violence. Because they have

1055
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 4: the blueprints of these laws, they keep changing it just

1056
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 4: to serve their their you know, their own desires of elimination,

1057
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 4: of eliminating us.

1058
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: Yes, and and and and and again.

1059
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 4: For us to really truly look and just to stop

1060
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 4: stop trying to hide and escape the reality of what

1061
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 4: is at our doorstep, meaning fascism is here. Let's just

1062
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 4: name that for a fact, and that we have to

1063
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 4: absolutely it is. It is emergency, This is it is.

1064
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 4: We are in so os time as a food person,

1065
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 4: and you know this, You know this theal Everyone always

1066
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 4: says food people are the canary nicole mine. I've been

1067
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 4: trying to sound the alarm for two years and even

1068
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 4: before that, and I've been like, why is Bill Gates?

1069
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 4: I said this five years ago because I read an

1070
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 4: article on something and I just said, why is Bill

1071
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 4: Gates picking up all this land? Why is this investing

1072
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 4: in all this ship? I started seeing a pattern of

1073
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 4: them starting to privatize and build on these things, and

1074
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 4: so they knew they have the blueprint of how to

1075
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 4: control us, and who feeds you controls you. That is

1076
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 4: just the blueprint of just our civilizations. I've been I've

1077
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 4: been studying a lot in sort of ancient civilizations, how

1078
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 4: we've built ourselves, and often the blueprint of it was agriculture.

1079
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 4: We have to figure out where to grow the food

1080
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 4: right and so to me, this flight is very serious,

1081
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 4: and I think that for me, I love that I'm

1082
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 4: able to clearly tie together what I see in the

1083
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 4: fields and the injustice to farm workers, what I see

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Speaker 4: in our cities, and then with the unhoused folks, and

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Speaker 4: how they're exactly the same. It's just, you know, the

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Speaker 4: regions and the geography is just a little different, but

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Speaker 4: it's exactly the same. That violence is the same, the

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Speaker 4: system is the same, the other is the same. And

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Speaker 4: you know what I hope for, at least for folks

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Speaker 4: listening in this episode, is that to also hope to

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Speaker 4: shift your your lens on seeing farm workers to you

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Speaker 4: and and and the rights that are being violated in

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Speaker 4: their in their world.

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Speaker 2: You've mentioned you've seen some atrocities like mentioning in Ventura

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Speaker 2: County most recently. Are there places or things that people

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Speaker 2: could do to learn more about the conversation or what

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Speaker 2: places would you have them to look at.

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Speaker 4: I think that I would highly suggest that the two

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Speaker 4: of our partners in agriculture work is Alianza, you know,

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Speaker 4: the compassenas on a national level. The first farm Worker

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Speaker 4: Women led National Coalition that again is led by farm

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Speaker 4: worker women and founded by them and then leaded us

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Speaker 4: compassing us which is statewide in California and they have

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Speaker 4: about eighteen chapters across California. They have across the Spinal California.

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Speaker 4: You know, folks can also tap into their local chapters

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Speaker 4: and see if you want to, if you're able to

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Speaker 4: support them. And then here in La, if you're not

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Speaker 4: following us already, follow us at Polo's Pantry LA on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: That's really the only place that we're most active as

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Speaker 4: far as quick updates on what we're doing, collaborations we're

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Speaker 4: working with, that's all again community led, and so that's

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Speaker 4: one thing too I think I also want to emphasize

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Speaker 4: is that our work is guided by community from the

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Speaker 4: beginning and THEO knows this. THEO has absolutely lived it

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Speaker 4: with us and continues to and he continues to also

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Speaker 4: be part of our advisory council. That will never change.

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Speaker 4: He will always be advising on the things that will

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Speaker 4: be coming out of Polos, especially within the unhouse foods systems.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, those are the places to find us.

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Speaker 2: Perfect. One other thing, what concerning thing is on your

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Speaker 2: radar right now to alerters to look for.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, right now, I think it's really focusing

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Speaker 4: on protecting communities with the raids. I think for us,

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Speaker 4: I'm working with some really incredible folks. I want to

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Speaker 4: shout out over at Food for Comrades. They work with

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Speaker 4: Poma who just again incredible local food justice folks that

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Speaker 4: I've been doing more work with Shannon over at just Mediation.

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Speaker 4: She also has helping me with just blueprinting, you know,

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Speaker 4: the system's work, and especially digging deeper into the incredible

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Speaker 4: mutual aid system that's really kind of kept the you know,

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Speaker 4: sort of like the heart pumping in the work and

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Speaker 4: really kind of doubling down on that, on the clarity

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Speaker 4: around that and all the incredible people and organizations and

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Speaker 4: collectives that have really done the hard work of keeping

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Speaker 4: people alive. And so I think, I don't know. I

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Speaker 4: think right now I would say localizing your effort so

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Speaker 4: that people don't burn out. I would say get trained

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Speaker 4: with doing community patrols. And I recommend two groups right

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Speaker 4: now who you should tap into if you don't want

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Speaker 4: to be trained. Union del Barrio is incredible, La Based.

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Speaker 4: They're incredible, they have I know they have chapters across

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Speaker 4: the county place please look into them. And then I

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Speaker 4: know LA Tenants Union two has been have them offering

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Speaker 4: their own sort of community patrols, trainings and things like that.

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Speaker 4: Look into those two groups, and then there's other groups.

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Speaker 4: Two rapid response networks, find the find your local rapid

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Speaker 4: response networks and then mutual aid networks too. Just just

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Speaker 4: localize your efforts so that way you know, there's more

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Speaker 4: of us and start, you know, just start to continue

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Speaker 4: to build and and and grew o my Selium network

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Speaker 4: to keep people safe.

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Speaker 2: Homimade Meals is they're still on.

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Speaker 4: The meals is still on the map. And but right

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Speaker 4: now I think what we're trying to do is evolve

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Speaker 4: it as well, and uh evolve it to the needs

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Speaker 4: of what's happening too on the ground. We're trying to

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Speaker 4: be very intentional with the next phase of what of

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Speaker 4: our work the team. And again I don't want to

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Speaker 4: take credit for what the team does because I've I've

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Speaker 4: helped vision it. But the real blood Sweaton Tears are

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Speaker 4: you know, our folks and are on our team Sonya

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Speaker 4: you know Jenny, Jackie, Angela, Alex who do the true

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Speaker 4: heart work of holding the homelymade meals community together, all

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Speaker 4: the incredible people who cook meals for our folks who

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Speaker 4: you know that Again, it's just for years have been

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Speaker 4: trying to figure out the connectivity of that piece. And

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Speaker 4: maybe that's something we can also like work on because

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Speaker 4: you know THEO I think you and I have always

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Speaker 4: been working so much that I don't think we get

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Speaker 4: a chance to even process. We barely get a chance

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Speaker 4: to even have our vacations right to take to take breaks.

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Speaker 2: But it's very, very needed.

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Speaker 4: But I think, like now, I'm grateful for you U

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Speaker 4: s LA and the community there who've given me the

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Speaker 4: space to really sort of like just you know, sometimes

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Speaker 4: allow myself just to look at the things that I

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Speaker 4: built and really make sense of what you know, of

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Speaker 4: what's happening there.

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Speaker 2: So I want to point out another connecting lunch pin too,

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Speaker 2: because everything is connected, as I mentioned earlier, but right

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Speaker 2: now we are also dealing with there's going to be

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Speaker 2: cuts from medicare, cuts from a snap and EBT. And

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Speaker 2: because it's so this is so important and why food

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Speaker 2: justice is so important, maybe just another part of the

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Speaker 2: evolution is too, We're going to have there's going to

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Speaker 2: be a need. There's going to be hunger, There's going

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Speaker 2: to be need on a very wider scale, similarly to

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Speaker 2: the times of COVID where it impacted the unhoused community

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Speaker 2: and a significantly severely way. So I think that's to me,

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Speaker 2: that's when I'm foreseeing. I know people are going to

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Speaker 2: be housed unhoused, or housed insecure or employment insecure people

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Speaker 2: do so no, I.

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Speaker 4: Think like right now we have to do some more

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Speaker 4: work and really weaving our struggles together and to also

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Speaker 4: teach folks about these things and making the connections themselves,

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Speaker 4: because again I think like the goal is not to

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Speaker 4: also like centralize the power. It has to be a

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Speaker 4: way for it to grow locally and rapidly like a

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Speaker 4: forest fire. And so for I think right now it's

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Speaker 4: really again sharing as much as we can of another

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Speaker 4: about with strategies that have worked, and if you're not

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Speaker 4: sure what to do, just find people who are already

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Speaker 4: doing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I just think that there's so many changes happening in

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Speaker 4: our world right now, and I think the biggest thing

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Speaker 4: that has been very helpful for me is again start

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Speaker 4: to go in and I'm going to sound real spiritual

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Speaker 4: and kind of woo woo. But this is a part

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Speaker 4: of me that I haven't really shared much with folks,

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Speaker 4: But I think I'm sharing a little bit of it

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Speaker 4: just because it's helping. It's helpful for me, I think

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Speaker 4: doing the work, and I think a lot of spiritual

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Speaker 4: felks called shadow work. It's it's the piece I think

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Speaker 4: that's really kind of has us all sort of in

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Speaker 4: that and it's stuck feeling in this stuck phase. And

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Speaker 4: there's so many energies and things that are happening out

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Speaker 4: there right now. A lot of what's happening in a

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Speaker 4: global scale is also happening within our own you know,

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Speaker 4: sort of like dynamics and construction of our own neighborhoods

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Speaker 4: in the villages. So in order to I think, take

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Speaker 4: care of yourself, I think it's important to first look

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Speaker 4: at what is going on with you, right And I

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Speaker 4: say this because I think you and I are also

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Speaker 4: again we're familiar with the level of conflict and and

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Speaker 4: and and how that creates fishers within our movement. But

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Speaker 4: I think we're in it. We're in a We're in

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Speaker 4: a very very critical time that requires us to move

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Speaker 4: evolve past all that and to really really start to

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Speaker 4: let these connections stay solid so that we can really

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Speaker 4: push against all the things that are happening. So I

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Speaker 4: hope that landed well and clearly on people to do

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Speaker 4: the work of not only you know, Anthea and I

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Speaker 4: also kind of shared this too with each other right

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Speaker 4: before we started the show. Is taking care of ourselves,

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Speaker 4: you know, like we're working constantly, but again also honoring

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Speaker 4: the fact that we also need rest.

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Speaker 2: For this too. Yeah, that's it, excellently stated. Thank you

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Speaker 2: very much. Thank you so much to Melissa, who you're

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Speaker 2: sure to hear on the show again. This episode wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be possible without the support of Polo's Pantry and Melissa Assadero,

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Speaker 2: and to our guest today who had the courage and

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Speaker 2: grace to tell their stories. Thank you all for listening

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Speaker 2: to another episode of Widian Howes. If you have a

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Speaker 2: story you'd like to share, please reach out to me

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Speaker 2: at weidianhows at gmail dot com or widian House on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Until then, may we again meet in the light of understanding.

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