1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Beyond the Beauty is a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Bobby Brown. I wanted to interview Amy 3 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: Shawn the podcast because she's someone I go to when 4 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: I need some real advice. There's so much noise out there, 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: and she always is the one that says, Okay, stop. 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: What I love about Dr Shaw is that her advice 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: not always easy, but she pretty much tells me like 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: it is. On this podcast, we've talked a lot about 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: gut health, but we haven't talked a lot about hormones. 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: And Amy Shaw says that your gut health and your 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: hormones are completely intertwined. So I want to understand how 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: one can help the other because a lot of women 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: they just accept it. You're bloated, you're moody, you're anxious. 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: I want to understand what you could do that actually 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: will make a difference. And I turned to Dr Amy 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: Shaw because she's not only a double board certified m 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: D with training from Cornell, Columbia and Harvard, she was 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: named one of Mine Body Green's Top Women in Wellness. 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: She is a very busy, working mother of two with 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: a big practice and a wellness brand on top of it. 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: So here's my conversation with Dr Amy. Good morning, Theme, 22 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: Good morning Bobby. It's so nice to talk to you, 23 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: and I'm calling you Aim because I feel so close 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: to you, because you're someone that I met a couple 25 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: of years ago. And I'll talk about it for a second, 26 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: but it's the universe. I hate saying that because it 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: sounds so cliche, but the universe kind of brought us together, 28 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: and you've become kind of like a mentor and friend 29 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: and patient all in one. So thanks for that. There's 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: we have a lot of things to share besides health 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: and wellness tips, but you know, being an entrepreneur and honestly, 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: being two women doing similar things, we've really supported each other. 33 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: I feel really proud and thankful that we are not 34 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: only colleagues, but we're friends exactly. I couldn't have said 35 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: it better. And you know, people always say to me, 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: how do you know all these people? And I will 37 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: share the story of how we met. My side of 38 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: the story is I was on a boat with my 39 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: family in the middle of the Mediterranean in Italy, and 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: of course my digestion went off and I went to 41 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: some Italian pharmacy and you know, them not speaking a 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: word of English mean not a word of Italian. But 43 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: they figured out that I had some tummy issues, so 44 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: they gave me all these things and I took a 45 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: picture of it and I put it on my Instagram 46 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: and I said something about trying it once again, trying to, 47 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, fix my tummy, and you popped up and 48 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: said I can help you. And I had just heard 49 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: about you on the Mind Body Green podcast. So do 50 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: you remember that moment? Oh, definitely, I remember that. So 51 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: my side of the story is that I was new 52 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: to Instagram. Someone said, you know, if you're gonna be 53 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: a doctor who's going to be talking about this wellness stuff, 54 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: you need to start getting a website and getting on 55 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: social media. So I opened a site and I joined 56 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: Instagram right after I did the gut course with Mind 57 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: Body Green, where I taught kind of a three day 58 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: reset and guess who started following me. I had, like, 59 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, less than two hundred followers, just Bobby Brown, 60 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, mesmerized, because of course, 61 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: we all grew up with Bobby Brown. I grew up 62 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: when I was growing up. That was the makeup for 63 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: Brown girls. Right. Um, there was not a lot of 64 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: options with all the other brands for someone with my 65 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: skin color, and so we really loved your makeup. And 66 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: when I saw that post, I was like, oh, maybe 67 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: there's something I can help with because I definitely can't 68 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: help you with it, you know, other things. So I 69 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: reached out and honestly it was literally like, hey, I 70 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: can kind of tell you which one of these might 71 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: be more helpful than others. And I didn't expect any 72 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: kind of reply, but I thought in case you needed help, 73 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: I was there, and I remember we had a very 74 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: long talk when I got back. I remember walking in 75 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: the park and you kind of, you know, helping me, 76 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: and you're still my go to when I need to 77 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: figure something out. And even recently, as I'm trying to 78 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: figure out this whole you know, my all of my 79 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: quest and questions, a big thing kind of came to 80 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: my mind where it's like, Okay, there is no answer. 81 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: It's in the room, it's you, it's me, it's my 82 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: crazy lifestyle and stress, and you know, you've kind of 83 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: helped me kind of figure that out. But it's like anything, right, 84 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: Like whenever we're talking about career or entrepreneurship life, there's 85 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: never a clear one shot answer, it's like you got 86 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: to do everything. It's like a it's a journey, it's 87 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: never a destination. So your background is you are a doctor, 88 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: and what is your specialty? An m D. And I 89 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: have a double board certification in both internal medicine, which 90 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: is kind of general medicine, and then immunology and allergy, 91 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 1: which is a specialty. I love the immune system because 92 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: even back then when I was learning about it was 93 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: like the immune system and the gut and hormones, they 94 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: were like all intertwined. And so I went to the 95 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: traditional medical school route, but I had nutrition as my 96 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: undergraduate degree, so I thought, oh, I'll just tie it 97 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: all together. You know, I do nutrition. I graduated from 98 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: there and then I went to med school and I thought, okay, 99 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: I can kind of like put it all together and 100 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: counsel patients. And guess what, Like the first week I 101 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: got out of practice after like twenty five years of training, 102 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: and there was like a list of twenty patients I 103 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: was supposed to see and there was no room conversation 104 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: or kind of allowance for the stuff that I really 105 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: wanted to get into. So right now, your practice is 106 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: on sickness or on health, So so I have both. 107 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 1: I came to this realization when I had already become 108 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: a partner in a large, thirty six person practice. So 109 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: I came to this place. All my life, I was always, 110 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 1: you know, go get her. I went to ivy leagues 111 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: and I wanted to go to med school, and I 112 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: did all this research and basic science and I knew. 113 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: I was like, having kids is not going to change me. 114 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: Age is not going to change me. I'm going to 115 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: do it all. And then I made partner in this 116 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: practice and I realized, oh my god, I feel like 117 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: crap all the time. I was super cranky all this way. 118 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: I was waiting for this moment, and this moment was terrible. 119 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: I felt I was having nightmares. My hair was falling out, 120 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: like my gut was distended, like I looked like I 121 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: was still pregnant. I two little kids, and I knew 122 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: there was something very wrong with myself. And when I 123 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: started to ask my own colleagues, they had no answers 124 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: for me. They're like, oh, you're getting older, you have kids, 125 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: you have a busy life, if you know. Dadda. When 126 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I love a doctor that says da da 127 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: da da Okay, go ahead. That's when I realized, Okay, 128 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: I gotta do something. But you know, life was busy. 129 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: It's a world wind. You don't ever see the big picture, 130 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: and so it wasn't until you know, six months of this, 131 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: eight months of this, that I had a moment. I 132 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: had two moments, actually two horrible, terrible moments. One was 133 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: I got into a terrible, life threatening car accident when 134 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: I was rushing home from a work meeting trying to 135 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: pick up my kids from karate, and it was so bad. 136 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: You know, I had never been in a car accident 137 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: where every airbag imploded and I ran out of the 138 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: car with all this glass all over me, with cuts 139 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: and bruises, and I said, you know, I got to 140 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: run across the street because I was almost at the 141 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: karate place, and I was like, I gotta run and 142 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: go get my kids. And these people thought I had 143 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: really gone crazy because the person in the other car 144 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: was like, you know, also shooken up and was at 145 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: an intersection. We were both kind of fighting for that spot. 146 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: And then the next week the second thing happened, which 147 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: is that I had to sit for my second set 148 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: of boards, which was immunology, and I failed them, and 149 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: like that was a moment in my life where you know, 150 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: all my self worth was my ability to excel in 151 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 1: academics and whatever. The nightmares that I had been having 152 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: like came true, both car accident and this immunology thing. 153 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: You know, I sat with myself and I said, something's 154 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: got to change. There's I can't even think straight. And 155 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: so that's that's basically how I got to starting to 156 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: write for Mind Body Green and then doing the course 157 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: with Mind Body Green, and then that leads up to 158 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: when I got to meet you and personally, what were 159 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: the changes you made? Like, what what were you doing 160 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: then that didn't make a difference. I can't imagine you 161 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: were eating junk food. Well I wasn't eating junk food, 162 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: but I was definitely not cognizant of the fact that 163 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: our gut has he's got bacteria that feed on certain 164 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: foods and they grow with you know, prebiotic fibers, and 165 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, I was probably getting the average American amount 166 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: of fiber, which is about fifteen grams. When they looked 167 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 1: at really prehistoric times and also up to about a 168 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: hundred years ago, we were probably having more like a 169 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty grams, So we went from a hundred 170 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: and fifty grams to maybe fifteen grams a day. I 171 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: was that busy mom, you know, having Starbucks but really 172 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: no vegetables, even being vegetarians. So I knew that there 173 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: was something there in my diet because it was that 174 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: busy person's fast choice diet. And I knew there was 175 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: something wrong with my horbones because I was having like 176 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: the worst PMS and mood issues, and I was so tired. 177 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: I would be exhausted even after getting sleep, and I 178 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: didn't understand. You know, I think a lot of women 179 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: go through that, you know, especially when their kids are young. 180 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: And why are we so tired? This is a crux 181 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: of what I've been looking on. Basically, what I found 182 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: out is that your gut is connected to your hormones, 183 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: which is connected to your immune system, and it all 184 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: talks to your brain all the time. And so we're 185 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: tired because we're not taking care of all three of 186 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: those things. We're not taking care of our gut, our 187 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: immune system, and our hormones. So what are some really 188 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: simple things people could do? So you know me and 189 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: I've talked to you about this a million times. I 190 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: love fastening. But I'm kind of a person who likes 191 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: a busy women's fast, Like a busy what can busy 192 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: women do? So busy women's fast is just between thirteen 193 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: and fourteen hours on average a night, meaning that you 194 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: would end dinner at seven pm and then not eat 195 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: till eight am or eight thirty or nine am. We're 196 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: in New York, so we do not We're not done 197 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: with dinner at seven o'clock like let's say eight o'clock 198 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: or on a weekend nine okay, fine, okay, so I 199 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: mean weekends, weekends. I and I tell people you don't 200 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: have to do this thing every day. You could do 201 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: three days a week where you do this kind of 202 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: earlier dinner. And I've talked to you about this. There's 203 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: so many advantages about earlier dinner. Earlier dinner means that 204 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: your body can be sink to circadian rhythms. So there's 205 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: lots of evidence coming out all the time that the 206 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: more you give your g I tracked your skin, your blood, 207 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: every cell in your body time to renew and recover 208 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: during their dark hours, the better it's going to be 209 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: for you. And so if you're eating the bulk of 210 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: your meals between twelve and six. That's going to be 211 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: the best thing you can do for your gut and 212 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: your skin and your hair. So like, even your skin 213 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: has a circadian rhythm and so does your hair, so 214 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: like you will optimize not only your gut but also 215 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: your skin. Well, I don't know if it's realistic for 216 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: people to finish eating at six o'clock at night. It's 217 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: like the bulk of your calories you want to get 218 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: at in those hours and then you can say, hey, 219 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: you know what, two days a week or three days 220 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: a week, I'm going to push this a little bit longer, 221 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: and those maybe your late days, or maybe that's the 222 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: day that you can kind of eat a little bit earlier. 223 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: They did a breast cancer study and they saw just 224 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: thirteen hours on average, people just fasted thirteen hours and 225 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: night a pm to nine am or seven pm two 226 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: eight am, and they found that there was a thirty 227 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: six percent decrease in breast cancer recurrence. I mean that's like, 228 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: that's like, why would you not do that? So intermittent 229 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: fasting has become it's become the rage. So intermittent fasting, 230 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: which they call i F. So the minimum is twelve 231 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: hours and you push yourself up to thirteen fourteen hours 232 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: or does twelve hours not do anything? No, it does. 233 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: If you go between twelve hours, and you can go 234 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: all the way up to about twenty four hours, that's 235 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: still considered an intermittent fasting. And the reason why it's 236 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: all the rage is that we realized, hey, we're eating 237 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: fifteen hours a day on average. There's also a lot 238 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: of diseases that are on the rise. And maybe, yes 239 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: it's calories, yes it's not exercise, but there's this other 240 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: factor that we have been discounting all this time. And 241 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: so they found in animal studies, then they found in 242 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: human studies, and now there's all these new trials looking 243 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: at shorter periods of time, like you know the like 244 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: I mentioned just the twelve fourteen hours that it makes 245 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: a huge difference and not only are energy levels now 246 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: which is what we're talking about, but then disease in 247 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: the future. The more you can move up your dinner, 248 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: like the intimate fasters on the internet are doing this 249 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: thing where they eat first meal at twelve noon, which 250 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: is fine, but what I like to tell people is 251 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: that really concentrate on ending your nighttime snacking. If you 252 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: could like not have a snack before bed and start 253 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: your fast a little bit earlier. That's going to optimize 254 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: your circadian rhythms. Do You're gonna get better sleep, You're 255 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: gonna get better skin, You're gonna get better energy, you're 256 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: gonna get better benefits. So all fasting is good, but 257 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: the earlier meal is the preferred. And what can you 258 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: eat after dinner? Does tea count? Herbal tea? You can 259 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: do herbal tea and that does not count. I actually 260 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: allow forty calories even after you've started your fast, So 261 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: you could have herbal tea and then you could have 262 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: or have broth, or you could have a half a 263 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: tablespoon of almond butter and a Stevia sweetened drink if 264 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: you need it. But I urge you not to do 265 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: sugary things. Something low protein and low sugar. Okay, there 266 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: there are women listening to this that are shaking their 267 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: head and said, if I can eat half a tea 268 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: spoon of almond butter, I wouldn't even table a table 269 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: half a tablespoon. Still, like, if I could just do that, no, 270 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: so I wouldn't want about you would just I would 271 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: just have tea and what do you think about the 272 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: fast bar, which is a two calorie bar that they 273 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: say your body is actually still fasting. Dr Longo has 274 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: a protocol called fasting mimicking diet, and that's a bar 275 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: from his fasting mimicking diet, and I do do that. Sometimes. 276 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: He's basically saying, Hey, I get it. People cannot fast 277 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: completely with no food, and there's gotta be ways to 278 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: keep them in the kind of fasting mode. I say, 279 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: it's not the best way, too fast, but it's definitely 280 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: something that you can do as your first meal. If 281 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: you're like, hey, I don't have time to eat a 282 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: full meal at ten am, I'm gonna have a fast 283 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: bar and then have my full meal at twelve, that 284 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: would make sense to me. So that's busy women's fast 285 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: is the first thing I would say. And then the 286 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: second energy booster that I think is really going to 287 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: change your energy right away is circadian sinking. So what 288 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: that means is that, hey, we have blue light in 289 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: all hours of our day. When we look at our phone, 290 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: it delays melotonin onset for like ninety minutes every time 291 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: we look at it, and so you can imagine we're 292 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: really messing up our kiddian cycles and their kiddings cycles 293 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: are not just about our brain anymore. It's about our 294 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: energy and our skin and our well being. Um so 295 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: our brain and our hormones. So one of the things 296 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: I tell people is that on even if it's not 297 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: sunny outside, as long as there's you know, there's a 298 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: sky that is not pitch black, go outside and spend 299 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, if you can go outside and spend twenty 300 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: minutes outside in the sunlight or at least daylight before 301 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: two pm, that's ideal. Or just put your office chair 302 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: next to a sunny window. That alone can really change 303 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: so much of your energy levels. And then at night, 304 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: spend like ninety minutes if you can away from the 305 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: blue light, like maybe dim your lights in the home 306 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: and maybe put down the phone in the computer for 307 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: like an hour hour and a half before bed. And 308 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: do you believe in melotonin as a supplement, Yes, I do. 309 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: I love melotonin, but I do think that people get 310 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: it way wrong. So this is what happens in the pharmacy. 311 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: You go to the pharmacy, you see melatonin, you see 312 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: three milligrams, you see five milligrams, You stay one milligram. 313 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: So everybody always says, well more is better because you 314 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: know why not right, But when they looked at clinical studies, 315 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: they said even just a half to one milligram of 316 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: melotonin was enough to induce sleep in people, especially if 317 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: they're already doing all the other sleep hygiene and circadian 318 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: rhythm work. So what I tell people, it's like, you 319 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: use the smallest dose that you can, one to two milligrams. 320 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: Don't go to the five ten milligram because the melotonin 321 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: is a hormone. Why are you going to take exogenous 322 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: hormones if you don't have to? What about probiotics? What 323 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: are your recommendations? So probiotics are tough because you know, 324 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: imagine a barren farmland, okay, and you're in a plane 325 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: and you're just throwing seeds out out of the window 326 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: and you're hoping, like you're praying that they grow. What's 327 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: the chances of that taking at all? So what I 328 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: say to people is, like, work on fertilizing that land 329 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: before you actually throw the seeds on there. So, like 330 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: you want to increase the water intake, you want to 331 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: increase your vegetable intake, which has fiber in it, and 332 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: that fiber feeds those little seedlings that are there, but 333 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: they need food. They're starving to death. So you feed 334 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: those little seedlings, and then you stop the sugar, which 335 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: stops those weeds from growing. Those weeds are feeding on 336 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: the sugary foods, and so by doing that you kind 337 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: of heal that barren garden. Probiotic foods just work a 338 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: lot better than probiotic pills because our body is super smart. 339 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: If you ingest a whole bunch of bacteria, your body 340 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: is going to be like, oh wait, I gotta go 341 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: kill that foreign thing that just came into your mouth. 342 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: And so by that time it gets to your coal 343 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: and it's like dead. So what are the best probiotic 344 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: foods that you recommend? Okay, so I love kim chi. 345 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: Ave of fermented vegetables. Now you know, you go to 346 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: whole Foods or you go to your farmer's market, there's 347 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: a whole aisle of fermented vegetables that you can get, 348 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: even more than just pickles. But I love pickles, but 349 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 1: you've got to get the special actually fermented, not just 350 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: the ones that are pickled. Pickled and fermented are two 351 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: different things. I think people get that confused. I I 352 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: never heard of that. Explain how do you know that 353 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: your pigel is fermented and not pickled. So if you 354 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: go and see some of the jarred pickles, what they 355 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: did is they just basically put the pickling spices in there, 356 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: you know, like salt and vinegar and whatever, and they 357 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: put it in a bottle and then they process it 358 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: under heat. It's not necessarily fermented. Fermented means it's sat 359 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: on the shelf for a while and made bacteria and 360 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: then you put it in the fridge, right like, you 361 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: need actual bacteria to be growing in there. You can't 362 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: just put the spices and put it put it away. Okay, 363 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: So what supplements do you personally take? So I personally 364 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: take vitamin D. I think that vitamin D it's like 365 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: the hormone of the year when I was in immunology training, 366 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: because they were like, wow, never before did they see 367 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: a vitamin that acted exactly like a hormone in your body. 368 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: So if you're trying to balance your hormones, you got 369 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: to check your vitamin D levels and if they're not optimized, 370 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: then you should be taking a supplement. So optimized means 371 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: probably higher than what the lab shows. And there's really 372 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: really good data now that you should be on the 373 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: higher side for that. That's where the sunlight helps and 374 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: the vitamin D helps. I also, I'm not a big 375 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: supplement person. I just feel like, you know, the more 376 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: you look at it, the more you feel like you 377 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: can get a lot of this from a good, well 378 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: balanced diet. What I do like, you know, I kind 379 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: of like the io vetic herbs from time to time. 380 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: Ashua Ganda is a nice hormone balancer. Rodeola is a 381 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: nice hormone balancer. Sometimes I take that once a week. 382 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: I take a B vitamin because I am plant based 383 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: and so I want to make sure that I'm getting 384 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: my B twelve once a week. The good thing about 385 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: B vitamins is you'll pee it out. So there's certain 386 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: vitamins like C and B that you can pee out 387 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: and so you can't really overdose on it. But why 388 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: take extra if you don't need it? Right? And what 389 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: do I know? You're a vegetarian, so you don't do 390 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: fish oil, but do you do flex oil? I do 391 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: like Omega three, So if you really look at Omega 392 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: three data, it's pretty good. The vegan Omega three's algae oil, 393 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: which is the what the fish feed on. So I 394 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: do like Omega threees as well. What do you do 395 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: for fun? Like, what do you eat for fun? So 396 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: what do I eat for fun? Okay? So when I 397 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: went to India, the culture is all about food. It's 398 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: like you eat every minute of the day. You're served 399 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: by people who like make these amazing meals. I think 400 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: I went pretty off my plan there. I love Indian chai. 401 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: The tea is just to die for and they boil 402 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: it for like an hour and they put all these 403 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: spices in it, and it's got milk sugar and it's 404 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: like it's like a dessert and I could literally, like 405 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: I could live on that stuff. So I really really 406 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: like that. I also love salty Indian snacks. I'm goodrati, 407 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: which I know you know, but some people don't know that. 408 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: It's like the northwest part of India and they love 409 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: they're fried. It's kind of like a chickpea flower snacks. 410 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: They're like called gatia. They're like noodles that you can 411 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: put on top of your food or eat snack by itself. 412 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: And I say, well, it's made out of chickpea flour, 413 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: so at least it won't make me bloated, you know, 414 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: like the breads and whatever will. So I love that stuff. 415 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: And I love chocolate. That's my big indulgence. I love 416 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: love chocolate. Well, I probably have a piece of chocolate 417 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: three to four days a week, especially when I discovered Lilies. 418 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: You know, Lilies chocolate. It's sweetened with stevia, there's no 419 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: sugar in it. Do you eat the bars or I 420 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: have the chips at home? And you know the bar 421 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: we have are the bars in the office. And I 422 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, I've made a pact with myself that when 423 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: I eat chocolate, I may sure I'm actually paying attention. 424 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: And like I wanted to melt my mouth, I don't 425 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: want to just chew it and swallow it. I want 426 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: to I want to pay attention. But let's be honest. 427 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a big difference between Lily's versus the 428 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: the juror Elli chocolate chips or the who bars. Like 429 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: I when I have my two days a month, I 430 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: literally have two days a month where I kind of 431 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: do whatever I want. I go for the juror Elly 432 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: and the who bars. I just find them creamy. Well, 433 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: the hue is amazing, that's Hugh kitchen. It's just amazing kitchen. 434 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: But the jeer Deli, I mean, that doesn't even taste 435 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: good to me. It's like having milk chocolate. I think 436 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: I've so accustomed to healthy food that the dark chocolate, 437 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: not too sweet, not too creamy, works for me. I 438 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: tell people, and I'm just going to tell you this too. 439 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: I think having a one day, all out fast, getting 440 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: everything out of your system, and then going stricter on 441 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: the other days, like personally and for people I've worked with, 442 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: find that to work really well. Instead of having this 443 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: like strict regime every single day of your life, you 444 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: need a break, a mental break for you. So for me, okay, 445 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: So when we're talking about hormones, every woman their menstruating 446 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: should be tracking their cycles. And there's a follicular phase. 447 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: You know, there's two parts of your cycle, and I 448 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: always calculate you can feel it, but it's usually the 449 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: seven days before your period and then usually the day 450 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: before your period, So like two days in a month, 451 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: I will say, you know, my body's asking for it, 452 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: and that's probably the nice days. Not too fast, not 453 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: to think about it, Go go have whatever you've been wanting. 454 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: And then I just end it. And sometimes it doesn't 455 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: have to do with my hormone cycle. Sometimes it has 456 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: to do with yeah, it's my birthday, but I don't 457 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: want it to go more than two days a month 458 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: for myself personally. Yeah, I like Saturdays. Yeah, sometimes it's like, 459 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: you know what, I just want to eat those really 460 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: good French fries with my with my martini of course. 461 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: But you know, I know, so one thing I will 462 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: say is, one day you should do a full day fast. 463 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: There is so many have you heard about this Mormon study? 464 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: Did I tell you about this? I'll tell everybody did. 465 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: The Jewish study means we're too hungry to do a 466 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: Mormon fast. Sorry. A Mormon fast is where once a 467 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: month they skipped two meals in a day and those 468 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: people ended up with mortality benefits of you know, this 469 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: is like staggering, staggering. But of course, you know, when 470 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: you look at the Mormon population, there's a lot of differences. 471 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: They tried to control for everything, so they tried to 472 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: control for their lifestyle, but still there may be other 473 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: differences in their genetics and stuff that could make them, 474 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 1: like live healthier and longer. But I think it's worth it. 475 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: I do it um once a month where I kind 476 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: of try to fast all the way to dinner so 477 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: you can break your fast with your martini Bobby excellent. 478 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: I like that. And your husband and your two kids 479 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: when you fast, what happens to them? Luckily, my husband 480 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: started to get on the bandwagon, which I tell people 481 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: to do with their spouses if they have family, and say, hey, guys, 482 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: why don't we try this thing where we're gonna eat 483 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: dinner by six and you know, one day a week. 484 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: Everybody's kind of on board. I don't do more than 485 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: twelve hours for the kids because I don't think it's 486 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: the safety in um. Intermittent fasting for kids beyond twelve 487 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: hours is really unknown, but we do kind of you know, hybrid, 488 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, if you think about it, 489 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: you could probably make it work. And your kids when 490 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: they go to their friend's birthday parties, are they the 491 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: ones that eat the cake or skip it? They eat 492 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: the cake? They go Halloween trick or treating. I mean 493 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: some one of my friends moms said, oh, I asked 494 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: my son, like, what can I serve Jaden? My son's 495 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: names Jaden, and she goes, oh, he's just like a 496 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: normal kid like he he eats whatever. And I loved 497 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: that because I want them to model my behavior. I'm 498 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: not going to be My personality is not something to 499 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: force someone to do something. I just feel like it 500 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: just begs for them to rebel right, Like I want 501 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: them to watch us and be be inspired as they 502 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: get older. And we have tons of vegetables on the 503 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: plate all the time. But beyond that, I don't do anything. 504 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: But they are unbelievable dancers. I still cannot stop thinking 505 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: about that competition. They're both doing it. Ballroom is a ballroom, 506 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: it's ballroom dancing. Last December they had to prepare dance 507 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: for a wedding and in India, and they started and 508 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: then they practiced like three times a week and it's 509 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: a lot of work. It's amazing, it's adorable. So question, 510 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: we are all tired. How do women know that it's 511 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: not normal? Because we're always tired. When do we know 512 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: when it's a problem and when do we ask for help? 513 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: I don't think it's normal to be tired. I think 514 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: it's normal once in a while, I would say, like 515 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: once a week, to feel like you didn't get a 516 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: good night's sleep for whatever reason. Or you're overwhelmed or whatever. 517 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: But this whole, this whole culture of feeling tired every 518 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: day and all the time time, that is not normal. 519 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: We've normalized it because we don't want to sit with 520 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: the solutions, right. But that's how I say, if you're 521 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: feeling tired at all on a regular basis, there's a 522 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: big red flag on your hormones, on your gut under 523 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: immune system. You got to start doing this circadian sinking 524 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: that I talked about, simple things like sitting with your 525 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: door open for twenty minutes or or if you if 526 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: it's winter, just sitting near a window and then turning 527 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: off those blue lights ninety minutes before bed and maybe 528 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: using a milligram of melotonain to get to bed on time, 529 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: and getting those eight hours and then the busy woman's 530 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: fast just twelve to fourteen hours. Not I'm not talking 531 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: about like the things that we we had discussed in 532 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: this talk, like the twenty four hours and things. I'm 533 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: talking just twelve to fourteen hours. Can you do that? 534 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: The other things we didn't really touch on is changing 535 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: your diet, you know, really increasing your prebiotics and drinking 536 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: water eighty ounces and adding in some tea. I'm a big, 537 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: huge fan of t not just green tea, but black 538 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: tea has shown huge benefits in your health. So those 539 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 1: things also saunas Okay, three times a week sauna use 540 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: plus exercise, it's like an additive effect to improve that 541 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: energy trifecta. The energy trifecta is gut immune system hormones, 542 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: and that trifecta is something that we don't ever learn about, 543 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: talk about, or get taught by our physicians, and that's 544 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: something we should be taught. We'll talk to me about 545 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: exercise because you know, we've always heard, you know, push yourself, 546 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: do all these things, and then other people like, no, 547 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: you're actually making your self more stress. Do more weights, 548 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: do more yoga. What's your philosophy? My philosophy is that 549 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: the fitness industry has brainwashed us into thinking that we 550 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: need to be doing one hour hit workouts every day, 551 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: all or nothing, and if we're not, then we're not 552 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: good enough, and we're not skinny enough, we're muscular enough. 553 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: It's like this, it's just like the diet industry, the 554 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: fitness industry has something to gain from us thinking that. 555 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: But in reality, really, if you look at the science, 556 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: it's just movement, and more you do movement in nature, 557 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: the better. So I'm talking about a walk in nature, 558 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: and people like you do this all the time. But 559 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: when I tell people like you don't need to be 560 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: doing five heavy hit workouts a week, in fact, that 561 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: might be worsening your problem, they are so shocked because 562 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: I've never heard that before. And what do you do? 563 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: What's your exercise? So I do a lot of yoga 564 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: because my yoga, remember I was telling you it's hip 565 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: hop yoga. So I like the combination of having a 566 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: little bit of music and uh cardio yoga practice. I 567 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: do that, and I do do hit a few times 568 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: a week. I run into the same problem that I 569 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: tell other people not to do, is that too much 570 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: exercise is counterproductive. Like if you're doing exercise to improve 571 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: your long term lifespan and your energy levels, then more 572 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: is not more. You've got to sleep well, you gotta rest, 573 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: you gotta balance it with nature time and yoga. You 574 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: can't just keep hitting yourself. I used to be this 575 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: long distance runner and I had to stop because it 576 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: was messing my hormones up. So I hear you're writing 577 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: a book, what is it on? It's why the f 578 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: are we so tired? Um? And this book is going 579 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: to be a culmination of kind of the energy Tribacta 580 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: that we talked about, stories of people just like us 581 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: who are so busy that they don't have time to 582 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 1: do the million things that they've read about, and some 583 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: of which are fighting with each other. So so it's easy, 584 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: super easy, doable steps to change your energy in a 585 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: way that is based on science. And I have a 586 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: speed wrong for you? Okay, okay, what's your cocktail of choice? Oh? 587 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: Tequila tequila soda with lines two lines, two lines? Okay, 588 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: what's the thing you ate? The last thing I had 589 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: was chi, that's what you drank. What's the last thing 590 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: you ate? Oh? The last thing I ate? Oh almonds, 591 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: raw almonds, a handful of them. Coffee or tea? T 592 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: what's your order? Okay? So I do a chi which 593 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: is cardamom ginger and depending on the either coconut almond 594 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: or hemp milk. And you know, when I'm in India, 595 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: regular milk. And what's what brand do you like here? 596 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: I get my tea from India, It's Kashmir black Ta 597 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: lucky you. Um? What is the last book you read? 598 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: Anti Fragile by seem Teleb. It's a nonfiction book. It's 599 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: about how systems that thrive under stress are the systems 600 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: that are going to survive. So, you know, it's almost 601 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: like resilience, but the next level of resilience is called 602 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: anti fragile. So you're not fragile. You're so resilient that 603 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: you get better with stress. Kind of like what how 604 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: we would describe you, or you know an entrepreneur that's successful, 605 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: You thrive on stressors, grow with negativity, with failures. Or 606 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: what's one makeup or skincare item you cannot live without? Concealer? 607 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm Indian. And lastly, I don't know how you're going 608 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: to answer this because I don't think you do it. 609 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: How do you unwind? Taking my own advice, I turn 610 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: my phone off at about eight o'clock every night and 611 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: I cannot and I turn all the lights to dim 612 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: and I either read a book, hang out with the kids, 613 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: my husband, you know, do a skincare routine, which I 614 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: finally started doing at the age of forty. Well, dr 615 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: Amy Shaw, I am so happy to talk to you. 616 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: I always learned so much and I will never be 617 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: as good as you in any of these practices that 618 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: you do, but I'm mini steps. Well, I'll never be 619 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: as even close to you in your skills in makeup 620 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: and entrepreneurship and everything, so let's uh, it's all good, Okay. 621 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: I think you're a quick study, but cannot wait to 622 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: see what else you're doing. And where can people find you? 623 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: On Instagram it's at Fasting m D. My website is 624 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: Amy m d Wellness dot com and then Amy Shy. 625 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm deon Twitter and Facebook, which I've started to use 626 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: more often now. Well, thanks so much for talking to me, 627 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: and I look forward to catching up soon. Thanks Bobby, 628 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: thanks so much for everything you've done. Bye, talk to 629 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: you Hi. For more podcasts from I Heart Radio, visit 630 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: the I heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 631 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows.