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Speaker 1: New episode of fish Bites as usual with me Eli

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Speaker 1: Sussman covering the Miami Marlins in a way that only

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Speaker 1: Recording a little bit early for this week's episode, and

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a briefer episode than usual because

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Speaker 1: the focus will be primarily on FanFest that took places

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Speaker 1: past Saturday at Marlins Park. Before we get into that,

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Speaker 1: a reminder about Fish Stripes Night that's coming up towards

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Speaker 1: spring training, one of the first looks at how this

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Speaker 1: club is coming together on the field. A nice mix

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Speaker 1: of the veteran players acquired over the offseason and some

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Speaker 1: to the major leagues and form that long term core.

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Speaker 1: If it goes well on this night, we'll plan to

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Speaker 1: greatly appreciated. And one other story that came out of

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Speaker 1: FanFest before we get to the fan experience at the event,

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Speaker 1: I have my special guest. Our fan Fest correspondent this

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Speaker 1: year was Anthony Garcia, and it's a great conversation coming up.

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Speaker 1: While the fan Fest activities were in full swing, there

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Speaker 1: was an interesting report that came out from Joe Farsarro,

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Speaker 1: the longtime MLB dot Com beat writer, essentially confirming that

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Speaker 1: Jose Urania, heading into the twenty twenty season, is preparing

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Speaker 1: as a starting pitcher. Of course, he is the two

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Speaker 1: which led to some ambiy about what his fit would

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Speaker 1: be a pretty high probability that he'd be traded even

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Speaker 1: One of the biggest Marlins fans I know who this

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Speaker 1: year served as our fan Fest special correspondent, Anthony Garcia.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the.

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Speaker 2: Pod Man, Thanks for having you.

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Speaker 1: Happy to be here, well, as a lot of people know.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't at FanFest myself. You were there. Seventeen thousand

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Speaker 1: biggest one they've had since they've moved the format into

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Speaker 1: a single day thing. But for the people listening to

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Speaker 1: reasons or the conflicts they had, I wanted you to

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Speaker 1: just set the scene for us. Who did you bring

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Speaker 1: with you? And where do you live, like relative to

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Speaker 2: I'm lucky that I live about i'd say fifteen minutes

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Speaker 2: from the park. Today was awesome. I took my wife

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Speaker 2: My Twitter famous daughter Steena didn't make the trip because

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Speaker 2: It was a beautiful day, and it didn't have gone better.

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Speaker 1: And you were there from the very beginning. I think

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Speaker 1: the main event started at like three PM is when

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Speaker 1: they opened it up to everybody else. But they had

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Speaker 1: that Marlins Member's event beforehand with the State of the

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Speaker 1: Marlins address from Derek Cheter himself. I only saw little

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Speaker 1: beat bits and pieces like come out from that. What

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll start by saying that Jeter and Marlin members

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Speaker 2: events and any little State of the Marlins they've ever done,

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Speaker 2: as I've been to all of them with my wife,

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Speaker 2: We've been seen and take aholder since stay out the team,

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Speaker 2: and this one was definitely the biggest to have the

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Speaker 2: first one he did, the famous first State of the Marlins.

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Speaker 2: This one was the biggest. I mean, we've gone to

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Speaker 2: definitely the biggest one. It was the most fans I've

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Speaker 2: know games, John b already was out there playing a game.

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Speaker 2: It was very you know, friendly at first, and then

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Speaker 2: but everybody wanted Jeter, you know, they introduced him as

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Speaker 2: when the fans question started, that's when things got interesting.

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Speaker 2: That's when people started not hard questions, but I guess

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Speaker 2: what we're all thinking of, Uh, you know what, where

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Speaker 2: he answered them the way Jeter does. He never he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something we always got to remind ourselves. It's

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Speaker 1: like we all to get hyped, so like here here

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Speaker 2: So what happened not in the beginning and Jeter's first

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean, and it's always it's only headline

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Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, people are pretty comfortable with

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Speaker 1: with the idea that Jeter's running the organization. He's been

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Speaker 1: here a few years. But I mean, most of the

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Speaker 1: like this time was their first time at FanFest. So

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Speaker 1: like for all the people that don't even follow the

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Speaker 1: Out of all the players in there that were relatively

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Speaker 1: Where did Where'd you see those guys and what were

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Speaker 2: Well, it was actually funny because I was walking on

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't until I noticed on the letter man

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Speaker 2: Fantus that I've noticed that the players were everywhere. The

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Speaker 2: Stanic was there and all that, you know, so it

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Speaker 1: Now, I mean correctly if I'm wrong, But back in

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Speaker 2: They went away from that. I was actually talking to

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Speaker 2: We met every player, I mean, we got autographs from everybody.

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Speaker 2: We did everything possible in two three four hours. It

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Speaker 2: It was a two day event and we were done.

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Speaker 2: It looks a lot better, the perception is a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just from what I've seen, I generally

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Speaker 1: So it's it does extend a little bit beyond the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I was saying, we've gone to I

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Speaker 2: it's not where we are as a fan base now

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Speaker 2: you know, one day we all get together, we all

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Speaker 2: all the players are there. Every event is the same day,

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Speaker 2: understand why where we're at now one day is perfect.

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Speaker 1: And one more thing we're gonna touch on this year's

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Speaker 2: I saw a lot of band sites and stuff commenting

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Speaker 2: it's done, it's the color, but it's not the case

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Speaker 2: It's green, it looks like regular grass. They actually let

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Speaker 2: it's like four to five feet the difference in center field.

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00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm not sure on that one, but they definitely moved

432
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: it in and the field just looks tidal. Everything looks

433
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: more compact. I think centerfielders are gonna have a much

434
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: better time out there. Usually anything over their head or

435
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: anything gets past them, it's rolling forever. So I think

436
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: the field definitely looks good. Jeter touched on it that

437
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: they were having a hard time having a consistent grass

438
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: every game. Every game is team like there's drive patches here,

439
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: drive patches there, or if there was a rough patch here,

440
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 2: you know, they fixed it one day and then a

441
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 2: week later it's somewhere else. So they were struggling with it.

442
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: I guess they just decided, you know, it's better just

443
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: to be consistent. I think the outfielders are gonna actually

444
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: enjoy it a lot more than any surprise bumps.

445
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point. And like maybe they're waiting

446
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: until after the Monster Jam happens, because every year they

447
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: host a big monster truck thing, like late in February,

448
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: and I think that's the case again this year, so maybe.

449
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was talking about that too. I think it's

450
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: like the third FanFest in a row. The field is

451
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: completely destroyed. Right three years ago we had that rate

452
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: inside the stadium. I don't know, maybe that was last year.

453
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: Every year it seems like the shift is never ready

454
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: for fan Fest.

455
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, and that's part of the perception, Like it

456
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: seemed that everybody that went had a good time. But

457
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: because when you're spreading those images to people that aren't there,

458
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: part of that perception is like this is supposed to

459
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: be your first opportunity to see the field, and it's

460
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: supposed to it would help. I would think if it

461
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: looked exactly the way, if it looked to one hundred

462
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: percent ready. But yeah, I mean they put in there

463
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: are good excuses, I guess, especially the last two years,

464
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: because last year it was about repainting everything and adding

465
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: those new social sections and removing topped off and they yeah,

466
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: they were moving Homer last year and tearing it down

467
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: and building up the new section, and then this year. Yeah,

468
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: so they've had good excuses to the last two years.

469
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: I just think it would help the It would help

470
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: it even better. I think if they had it already

471
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: one hundred percent in time. And I guess that's what

472
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: we can assume for next year. I guess by by

473
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: next year, there's no other changes we'd expect to the

474
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: whole structure of the stadium.

475
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think everything's pretty much done. I

476
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: think we're going to have a consistent you know look

477
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: from now on. But again, they the point of the

478
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: Marlins Park hopefully gets the naming right name soon, but

479
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 2: the point of the park has always been to be

480
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: a three hundred and sixty five day, you know, a location,

481
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: concerts everything, so you never know.

482
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well why while I have you on here,

483
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: we can actually talk about the twenty twenty team a

484
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: little bit, because I get worn out always talking about

485
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: the same things myself and you know, writing it and

486
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: tweeting that I haven't repeat myself too much. I wanted

487
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: to hear some of your thoughts about how the team

488
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: is coming together this year. Is there any move in

489
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: particular that you're really happy about or really surprised about

490
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: that happens over this offseason.

491
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: I'm happy with the Johnson Villar claim and then eventual trade.

492
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: I believe hopefully he's one of those guys that could

493
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: just keep it together. Hopefully we have him for more

494
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: than one year. But after the season it's gonna be

495
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: better than last year. I think we're gonna start off good,

496
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: you know, with our rotation is gonna carry us. We

497
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: have good depth and almost I mean the outfield depth

498
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 2: is insane, but we have good depth. We have death

499
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 2: almost everywhere, so we should be you know, relevant, you know,

500
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: hanging on for a little bit. I think those dog

501
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: days of summers usually come and that's when we're gonna

502
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: fall off a little bit, unfortunately for now, and how

503
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: the business goes. If the veterans are playing good, they're

504
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: gonna get traded at the deadline. Were not ready. I

505
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: don't think. I can't picture a scenario where we're all

506
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: in this year, you know, at the deadline, let's go

507
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: get that big bat, let's go get that eighth I

508
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 2: don't see that happening. So I think that the Dickerson,

509
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,719
Speaker 2: you know, guys like that aggiar, if they have good

510
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: starts to the season, they should end up traded. I

511
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: know we have that option for Dickerson, but I think

512
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: will be consistent. I think the August September should be interesting.

513
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: The young guys should be up, you know, we should

514
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: be competing again. I'm expecting about like a seventy two

515
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: and ninety season around there, you know, and it have

516
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: to be an improvement from last year one hundred percent, right, yeah.

517
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: I mean the tricky part is just the schedule, the

518
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: fact that they're in the National League and they're a

519
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: time in the NL, where aside from maybe the Pirates,

520
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: there's like nobody else that's really fully tanking, Like everybody

521
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: else has some even if they're in the middle of

522
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: their own rebuilds or but most of the National League

523
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: happens to be in like a win now al mindset

524
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: that and even disproportionately, Yeah, being in the division where

525
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: everybody else in that division is like that way. There's

526
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: no soft spots in the americanly, it's like a totally

527
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: different story. And that's why, Yeah, that's why it's complicated

528
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: to like project this out because they're going to head

529
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: towards the middle of the year and you know that

530
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: they're going to be one of the bottom three teams.

531
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: Even if they're like dramatically better than they were last year,

532
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: there's such a big gap between where they were last

533
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: year and where they're trying to get to. And there's

534
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: I agree with you that like even the ceiling on

535
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: the team, even like the most optimistic scenario, they're not

536
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: going to be adding, they're not going to be buying

537
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: veterans at the deadline. But the reason why there's like

538
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: this like higher upside than the previous couple of years

539
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: because they have all these prospects that are on the

540
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: verge of breaking through. We're going to see six though

541
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: this year, and we're going to see Monte this year.

542
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: We could see a handful of those other guys too, So.

543
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: We're we're starting quote unquote MLB caliber players that almost

544
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: I mean at every position it seems, and with the

545
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: depth behind it, you know, it's gonna be fun. We're

546
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: gonna have games that are weeks or stretches that were

547
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: over the moon, and then I just feel like when

548
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: those dog days come, you know it's gonna be there

549
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: could be some tough stretches in there. You know, we

550
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: never know with injuries. Hopefully everybody stays healthy, but that's unrealistic.

551
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: So we'll see. It should be a much better season,

552
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: exciting season, and I just can't wait for it to

553
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: get started.

554
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they've done a lot of little things that

555
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: they're keeping ticket prices on a hold from where they

556
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: were last year instead of increasing them quite yet. And

557
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: they just announced all their giveaways today that kind of

558
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: got lost, Actually they didn't announce it. I kind of

559
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: I came across the information sources I acquired the promotions

560
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: for this year. They're gonna have the Bibblehead giveaways for Sandy,

561
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: for cold Smith, for Alfaro, and then they're gonna have

562
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: a throwback by head to Kevin Mallar coming up this year.

563
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: So they've those four and what else did they have?

564
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: They've been a Hawaiian shirt.

565
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: Giveaway A yeah, hopefully they do the throwback weekend again.

566
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: Peter mentioned it that some fan asked my biggest ceppew

567
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: with the Marlins, that we I've been a Dodger stadium,

568
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: I've been in other parks and we were really lacking

569
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: in that history.

570
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: You know.

571
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: Something asked Peter today about it, and Jeter said they're

572
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: working on it with time. You know, all we really

573
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: have from the past is those two small flags or

574
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: not flags, but two small signs and left field that

575
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: are almost hidden because they hide in the city. Uh yeah,

576
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: you know, so it's tough to even see them. And

577
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: hopefully the history is there. So hopefully one of those

578
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: weekends is a throwback weekend. Get those uniforms out again.

579
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: The stripes.

580
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one that I don't know for sure,

581
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: but it's been so popular. What each and the last

582
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: two years. Two years ago they did it for they

583
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: called it the twenty fifth anniversary, and then last year

584
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: it was in late July and they did like a

585
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: little variation on that. It was beautiful. They got to

586
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: bring that back again, definitely.

587
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Jeter commented on it. He said something along

588
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: the lines of, look, we love doing it, but fans

589
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: got to come to it. You know, everybody loves history,

590
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: but you guys got to come to those weekends, right,

591
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: and so at the end of the day, it comes

592
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: back to us. You know, getting people in the park.

593
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: It's not expensive as people say it is to go.

594
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: You can get tickets for ten dollars. You know. The

595
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: parking is always gonna be an issue. Everybody's never gonna

596
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: nobody ever wants to pay for parking. But there's other

597
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: options out there, them just driving, all of them parking

598
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: the three or five menus decent. It's awesome. You know,

599
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: you can get a beer for five dollars, a hot

600
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: doctor three. You know, you don't need to go spend

601
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: eighty ninety dollars. You go to dinner anywhere in Miami

602
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: and you're gonna spend over one hundred dollars you can

603
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: go to the ballpark with your family, spend eighty bucks

604
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: and everybody you know, you got to You gotta great

605
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: time in your beautiful place. You saw the game and

606
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: you ate and drank and everything's good. So the whole

607
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: super expensive to go to a Marlins game that's in

608
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: the past, that doesn't exist anymore.

609
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And still it's gonna be really exciting. And

610
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: there's still a spring training between now and then, and

611
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm really excited. That's gonna be fascinating this year with

612
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: all the competitions they got going on this season, and

613
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: it's still the potential to trade away some guys like

614
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do with Jose Arna,

615
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: and then they still got to see if like Hasus

616
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: Aguilar really proves himself in spring training. So there's still

617
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: like a lot to be decided between now and then.

618
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: But we'll probably have you back on the pod because

619
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: during spring training or definitely during the season, because then

620
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: I know you want to Yeah, I know you want

621
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: to be around and you got some good ideas.

622
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, I'll be at the first spring training game,

623
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: not the first one, the first home game in Jupiter,

624
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: So that'll be an exciting time.

625
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah with you. Then Anthony Garcia, fan Fest correspondent, and

626
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm glad your kid had a good time and bring

627
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: them both along to some of the spring training games.

628
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: Still, ye, thanks for having me.

629
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely have a great night, you too, bad Tare. And

630
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: to wrap things up, I wanted to highlight a couple

631
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: interviews recorded at FanFest, the first one right here being

632
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: manager Don Mattingly speaking with Glenn Geffner and Kyle Sealoff

633
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: on the Marlins Radio Network.

634
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: Welcome back to a special edition of the Marlins Hot

635
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 4: Stove Show. Alongside Glenn Geffner, I'm Kyle Sealoft. A terrific

636
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 4: crowd at Marlins Park this afternoon. Baseball is back. Pitchers

637
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 4: and catchers report next week and next month. The end

638
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 4: of next month is opening Day. Right now, we're joined

639
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 4: by the manager, the Marlin's Don Mattingley. Donnie, it's great

640
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 4: to see you. I guess it's a little two wlait

641
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: to say Happy New Year, But happy New Year. How's

642
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 4: everything going going good?

643
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

644
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 6: You know, And New Year's is pretty much the date

645
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 6: that once you get past that, it's like, okay, your

646
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 6: attention really goes to the season for the coaches and

647
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 6: the manager obviously Michael Hill, and development and analytics.

648
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 5: They're going at it all all winter long.

649
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 4: I know we sit here every spring and people talk

650
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: about how excited they are. But Glenn and I were

651
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: talking and I think this is year three under this

652
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 4: new ownership group, and there was an organizational commitment from

653
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 4: the top, from the bottom, all the way to the

654
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 4: top to get better. And you've started to see it,

655
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 4: whether it's the minor league system. You said in December,

656
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 4: it's time to go now and start winning here at

657
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 4: the major league level. But there's a ton of folks

658
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 4: out here today. Michael said he is so excited. I

659
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 4: know everybody always is, but heading into this camp, does

660
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 4: it feel any different in terms of the excitement or.

661
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 5: It definitely feels different.

662
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 6: I think as you've watched our minor league system grow,

663
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 6: I think the names that you hear about and the

664
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 6: names you see in the trades, all these guys are

665
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 6: kind of getting into the window of spring training big

666
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 6: league camp, you know, could be available at any point.

667
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 5: Basically during the season.

668
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 6: So I think there's real excitement within our organization. And

669
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 6: the one thing I'd said in the media session earlier,

670
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 6: if we're not significantly better this year. If we don't

671
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 6: win more a significant amount of games more, it's gonna

672
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 6: be a disappointing year for us because.

673
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 5: We've put a lot of time into it.

674
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 6: Our young guys are getting here at the gate, and

675
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 6: then the guys we've signed in Dickerson and Aggie are

676
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 6: v r Kinsler, I mean Joyce. We put the pieces together,

677
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 6: Matt Camp coming as a as a non roster. It's

678
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 6: a good group of guys coming, a better mixture of

679
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 6: left right, the combination of.

680
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 5: Players that can do different things. We feel good about

681
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 5: our club.

682
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 6: Obviously, we know we're in a tough division with the

683
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 6: World Series winners, the division winners from last year, everybody

684
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 6: trying to get better into Mets in the Phillies. So

685
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a tough division, but we're gonna be

686
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 6: a lot more competitive.

687
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 7: Every year is a new year, but it feels it

688
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 7: feels like this a new chapter more than just a

689
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 7: new year. This year, with the prospects like you mentioned

690
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 7: on the verge of reaching the big leagues, with some

691
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 7: of the veteran players in the primes of their careers

692
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 7: cutting it, it just feels very different this.

693
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 6: Year it really does it, and it kind of feels like,

694
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 6: you know, I'm optimistic all the time. In the last

695
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 6: couple of years, I've been very optimistic about what I

696
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 6: thought we could do, and you're hoping for the.

697
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 5: Very best, and realistically, you know, down deep, it's gonna take.

698
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 5: It's gonna have to be perfect.

699
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 6: I think we get to the point this year where

700
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 6: you're feeling like, you know, what that price we've paid

701
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 6: is kind of.

702
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 5: You know, come and do uh.

703
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 6: You feel like you're getting towards the top of the

704
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 6: hill where this thing's got a change to start doing

705
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 6: some downhill running instead of feeling like we're climbing this

706
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 6: mountain all the time. And so I really think it

707
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 6: is that year. It's time for us to do our.

708
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 5: Part on the field.

709
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 6: You know, the organization has really been hustling, you know,

710
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 6: about getting out in the community, doing the right thing,

711
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 6: building the minor league system. At some point we've got

712
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 6: to do it here we go, we gotta put the

713
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 6: winds on the here for our fans in Miami, and

714
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 6: then we've got to do it every year and be

715
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 6: sustainable where our fans start to trust what's going on here.

716
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 5: There were two areas that really stood out on the field.

717
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 7: Last year, the bullpen struggled and you had tough time

718
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 7: scoring runs. Let's start with the offense. It seems likely

719
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 7: to be a lot easier if you're riding out a

720
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 7: lineup card every night.

721
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 5: This year, Yeah, it's gonna be different for sure.

722
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 6: I think we see a lot more left right mix.

723
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 6: So we have, you know, with Dickerson and Joyce hasan

724
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 6: hopefully you know growing up, Aggie are in the lineup.

725
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 5: You know, you could do a lot of things with Koop.

726
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 5: You can do a lot of things with Andy.

727
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 6: You got Birdie, he gives you some balance. You got

728
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 6: Joyce now, Matt Kimp, Harold Ramirez. We don't know how

729
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 6: that whole thing shakes out, but it just feels more

730
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 6: solid in our bullpen. I mean, I think I really

731
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 6: was really glad to see a sign Kinsler. I think

732
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 6: it gives us a guy. You know, we have annoyeded

733
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 6: anyone to be the back end guy, but he really

734
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 6: makes the most sense to put our other guys in

735
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 6: the best shape. Ammy Garcia coming from LA, I had

736
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 6: him in La as a kid. This guy had a

737
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 6: really good year last year, and we were so excited

738
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 6: that we had a shot at him, and so that's

739
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 6: an exciting one for us.

740
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 4: You're starting rotation. I know throughout the course of times

741
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 4: last year Sandy was an all star. A lot of

742
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: up and down in terms of guys going through waves.

743
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 4: I know everybody's different, but when you look at your

744
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 4: starting rotation, you're gonna have a lot of options too,

745
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 4: in terms of guys that may come up at that

746
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: starting five might look a lot different come September. But

747
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: what's most important to you when you look at that

748
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 4: starting rotation is it stability.

749
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 6: It's gonna be and I think that's what we were

750
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 6: early last year. We were pretty good. I think we

751
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 6: had the same five starters longer than anybody in baseball,

752
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, we lose three guys

753
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 6: in a matter of probably two three weeks, and that really.

754
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 5: Put us behind the eight ball.

755
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 6: I thought Sandy was incredible last year. At the end

756
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 6: of the year, I felt like he made some huge strides.

757
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 6: So you know, obviously Sandy's sitting there. You look at

758
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 6: Caleb Smith, who had a solid, solid first half, got

759
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 6: banged up with a little hip thing and never seemed

760
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 6: to really really get back on track. Uh, getting Pablo

761
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 6: healthy back, getting jose Arena. Jose Arena is gonna be fighting,

762
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 6: not necessarily fighting for a spot.

763
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 5: We want him in our rotation.

764
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 6: And if he can make some adjustments and getting the

765
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 6: ball to both sides of the plate using an elevated

766
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 6: fastball now and then Josey's got a chance to really

767
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 6: take off.

768
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 7: So you see him in the rotation if things work

769
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 7: out in the spring.

770
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 5: Is that No, We're this, We want to we want

771
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 5: to work him as a starter in spring training.

772
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 6: We think he gives us that presence, that toughness and

773
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 6: the rotation, that power guy, but also just that attitude.

774
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 5: And but we're gonna make him to.

775
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 6: Make some We're gonna ask him to make some adjustments.

776
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 6: We talked to him late in the year last year

777
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 6: showed him some things that basically, you know, the numbers

778
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 6: were showing us either you can look at analytics or

779
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 6: the numbers were showing us what.

780
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 5: Was going on with him.

781
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 6: Uh, And we're gonna ask him to make some changes

782
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 6: to deal able to get the ball to both sides

783
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 6: of the plate. Uh, you know, And and Josey's a

784
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 6: tough kid, He's stubborn, and so we're gonna have to

785
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 6: work to get through to that. But our rotation that

786
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 6: you throw Yami in there and Elie iSER and I

787
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 6: think you got a mix of guys that can do

788
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 6: some things.

789
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 5: And then then you got some monsters coming.

790
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 6: You know, when you talk about six Stow and already

791
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 6: talking about a guy you don't even remember his last

792
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 6: name anymore, just six Stow now.

793
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 5: Uh.

794
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 6: You know, when you get to Edward and and Jorge Guzman,

795
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 6: guys aren't talking about Hora but Horror a couple of

796
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 6: years ago, you know, a lot of talk.

797
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 5: Then last year, that second half of he was really

798
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 5: really good. And then you start getting in the Nader

799
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 5: and then to Rogers.

800
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 6: Uh, and I forgot the other kid, Garrett Rex Garrett,

801
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 6: that's the one.

802
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 5: And so these boys are coming. And Jordan Holloway is

803
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 5: a guy that you know, nobody really talks about. Jordan.

804
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 5: This kid is a monster. And this is a six

805
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 5: to six, big on big athlete. You know, coming out

806
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 5: of the second full year out of Tommy John, this

807
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 5: guy's gonna be a monster.

808
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 7: Rotation might look a lot different in September than it

809
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 7: does coming out of spring training.

810
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 6: It could, it could, and maybe you know what you.

811
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 6: Somebody might down and say, we're pitching good enough. You

812
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 6: can't get us out of there.

813
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 5: Man win? Yeah, may the best man win.

814
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: I got one more for you before we let you run.

815
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 4: I know, spring training for a lot of veteran guys

816
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 4: is an opportunity to get your work in, stay healthy,

817
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 4: make sure you're good to go for one hundred and

818
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: sixty two game grind. But from your seat, how do

819
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: you evaluate during spring training? What are you looking for?

820
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 5: Out of guys?

821
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 6: It's probably different things, you know, different strokes for different folks.

822
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 6: And i'd see Miggy out here, I guess he's getting

823
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 6: ready to come on. But for a guy like that,

824
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 6: we're gonna get him ready, you know, make sure he's

825
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 6: in shape, he's getting his work, he's getting his swings,

826
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 6: he's getting everything he needs.

827
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 5: He's healthy walking out of camp. Dickerson kind of in

828
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 5: the same.

829
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 6: Boat, Joyce in the same boat. Vr Aggie are koop?

830
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 6: These guys are kind of in the same boat. Out

831
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 6: of the younger kids, you want to see what's going on.

832
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 6: You want to see how they're interacting with their teammates,

833
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 6: what their work ethic looks like, do they have good

834
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 6: routines already. You know, that's the thing for young guys

835
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 6: trying to get up and get their routine set and

836
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 6: how they're going to fit in and how they're going

837
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 6: to react to camp in the first time. So there's

838
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 6: there's kind of different strokes you're looking at for different folks.

839
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 7: You talk every spring about players in their first big

840
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 7: league camp looking different than they do in their second

841
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 7: big league camp, seeing that big jump. Who are there

842
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 7: a couple of guys in particular you're gonna see for

843
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 7: the second time this spring. We anticipates seeing make a

844
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 7: big lead from last year.

845
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 6: Well, I'll talk about the guy last year that made

846
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 6: a huge leap and when then we're hoping this year

847
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 6: he does the same thing on the during the season.

848
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 6: Isan was really rough a couple of camps ago. Last

849
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 6: year he was really good. He looked a lot more relaxed.

850
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 6: We've seen the player he came up last year and

851
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 6: he looked a lot like that kid we've seen the

852
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 6: first year in spring. I'm hoping this season looks a

853
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 6: lot more like his second. You know, try at spring training.

854
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 6: So that's one neither to another guy that's been through

855
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 6: a couple of camps didn't get really a.

856
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 5: Good look the first one. Jordan Holloway is another one

857
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 5: that was just kind of got a little bit of

858
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 5: a look seeing what it looks like.

859
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 6: And there's probably more as we get into it, but

860
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 6: those are kind of the guys and that's what you see,

861
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 6: that difference that one year makes because I knew it

862
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 6: as a player. Honestly, I went the first time, didn't

863
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 6: think I.

864
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 5: Had a chance to make the club, and probably didn't.

865
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 5: I was where number sixty two or something. You know

866
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 5: you're not making the club, but you know what, the.

867
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 6: Next camp you walk in, you feel so much different

868
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 6: and you come in with a different mindset.

869
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 5: The first one's like, oh, this is great, it's Big

870
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 5: Lee camp.

871
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: I get to go to Big Lee camp.

872
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah blah.

873
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 6: The second one you're like, man, I want to win

874
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 6: a job, and you know, just a different mindset.

875
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 5: It's more business that second camp.

876
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: Finally, here is Shortstop Prospect Jazz Chisholm on The Big

877
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: O Show, closing out this conversation with a very interesting

878
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: guarantee about the future of the Marlins franchise.

879
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 8: GoFish, Hey, I'm good man, I'm happy to be here.

880
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 9: All right, Matt, Well, we're happy to have you here.

881
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 9: So how you feeling about this upcoming season?

882
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 4: Oh?

883
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 8: I feel amazing, man, like I've have. I felt better

884
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 8: in my life.

885
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 9: Do you feel more pressure when you get traded to

886
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 9: this city compared to where you were, only because you

887
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 9: know our large Bahaman community and you got an opportunity

888
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 9: to represent like nobody else.

889
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 8: I wouldn't say I feel more pressure. I feel like

890
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 8: I feel more at home. Okay, I feel more at

891
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 8: home when I come to Miami. You know, this is

892
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 8: my type of culture, this is my type of vibe.

893
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 8: So every time I'm at home and I think of home,

894
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 8: I think of Miami. So when I got traded here,

895
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 8: it wasn't more of a pressure.

896
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: It was more of a happiness to me to be here.

897
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 9: So let me ask you. So, if I'm correct, I

898
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 9: think I did this. Okay, yes, exactly. You gotta explain

899
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 9: this to me. You come out of the Bahamas and

900
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 9: they put your ass in Wichita, Kansas.

901
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 10: Now that's shell shock above, shell shock above shell shock.

902
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 10: So tell me what was the culture shock first for

903
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 10: you going from Bahamas to Wichita.

904
00:45:54,640 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 8: The snow was the culture shock for me, But my

905
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 8: parents didn't want me to stay close to home.

906
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 3: They always want me to be far away from home.

907
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 3: I was supposed to come to American.

908
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 8: Heritage actually high school, and I ended up going to Wichtak,

909
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 8: Kansas to a prep school and playing baseball and basketball

910
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 8: and football up there. And I mean it was weird

911
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 8: for me too to go to Wichitar, Kansas.

912
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 9: Like I saw that and I go, wait a minute,

913
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 9: baha much the witch.

914
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 8: It was the last minute change, you know, like when

915
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 8: you're in baseball, we have last minute trades that come

916
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 8: out of.

917
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: Nowhere, right.

918
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 8: I was basically it because I was packing my bags

919
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 8: to go to American Heritage and then two weeks later, actually,

920
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 8: you're gonna go to Wichita.

921
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 9: So so so jazz was there like any regrets early on,

922
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 9: like what the hell am I doing here?

923
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: That kind of stuff.

924
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 8: Oh I got up there snowing, it was cold, like

925
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 8: havn't played against some like amazing competition yet, So I

926
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 8: was like, oh, I'm here for no reason. And then

927
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 8: we started playing in like national events, and I was like, oh,

928
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 8: never mind, Okay, this this is really this is really

929
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 8: gonna teach me how to be strong with everything I do.

930
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: You know.

931
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 8: It was playing in cold weather, which you're gonna have

932
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 8: to do when you're playing in October November.

933
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 9: Well, the Shockers go to the College World Series all

934
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 9: the time, right, even won the College Yeah yeah, so

935
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 9: yeah they had Actually.

936
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: Their basketball team is come on, yeah.

937
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: But that's fine.

938
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 9: In winter, you're stuck in a damn gym, So that's

939
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 9: all right. So how the hell? So do they have

940
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 9: indoor baseball facilities over there or what's.

941
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 3: The d I mean, the Shockers do they do? Huh?

942
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 8: Yeah they do. We did as a high school. We

943
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 8: did have an indoor facility that we worked out at. So,

944
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 8: I mean we had good travels, good indoor facilities, Like

945
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 8: we would travel.

946
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: We would drive from Wichita.

947
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 8: Kansas to Tennessee to play in the national tournament every year.

948
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 8: I mean, we were really good school. I would not

949
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 8: I wouldn't down my school at all. We came third

950
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 8: in the national championships, so I mean I was pretty

951
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 8: fine with it. Like going there and playing and competing

952
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 8: against guys that have been like that.

953
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: I've been in the big leagues now before, Like let's.

954
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 9: Let's think about this. Look how dedicated they are that

955
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 9: they'll go to the Bahamas to find talent. Right, So

956
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 9: you think about that, that's that's how stuteley that that

957
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 9: area is about baseball, how they feel about the sport.

958
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: That's right.

959
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 9: You know that that's also the way you really got

960
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 9: to look at it.

961
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 8: Because so the funny part about it about me going

962
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 8: to Kansas that he saw me play in the Little

963
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 8: League World Series that year in twenty ten. And in

964
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 8: twenty and ten I was twelve, and he was like.

965
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 9: I say you thirteen's right?

966
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 3: Yea twelve wow?

967
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, And then he came and he told me, he

968
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 8: was like, yeah, you're gonna go to American Heritage, you know,

969
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 8: go to school. And then two weeks later going to Kansas,

970
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 8: I was like, where is Kansas?

971
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 9: Did you know anything about American Heritage already?

972
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: Because school? So Albert Cartwright, okay, was.

973
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 8: One of the guys he played for the Phillies Anton

974
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 8: Richardson and my stepdad, my coach that coached me all

975
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 8: the way up drawn Sans, he played at American Heritage

976
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 8: as well. So like all the guys that were really

977
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 8: good in the Bahamas, that were like could have made

978
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 8: it professional went to American Heritage. So that's where I

979
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 8: was like, all right, I'm gonna be another professional athlete

980
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 8: from the Bahamas that goes to American heritage.

981
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 3: That was my looking at it.

982
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 9: That's awesome man. Jazz just on by the way, joining

983
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 9: us here on the show. So what's the what? What?

984
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 9: What do you want to accomplish this year with the team?

985
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 5: The team?

986
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 8: I just want to come up and help the team win.

987
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 8: That's all I want to do. I want to win.

988
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 8: I'm a big I'm a big competitor. All I think

989
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 8: about is winning. If if I could come up and

990
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 8: just make a play, defensive play and get no hits

991
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 8: and help us to win, I would.

992
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 3: That's why I would want to play.

993
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 11: What does it say to you that they traded for

994
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 11: you and they gave up a pretty good player in

995
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 11: Zach was a pretty good pitcher overall. They felt they

996
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 11: had the pitching debt, but they needed that bat so

997
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 11: and they want you to be that bad.

998
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 9: What's that say to you that they traded for you.

999
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 8: It's saying to me that they actually they wanted me here,

1000
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 8: and I feel really grateful that they want me here

1001
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 8: and want me to be a part of this group

1002
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 8: that's coming up, because it's a really group coming up

1003
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 8: right now, and I can see it, and I'm watching

1004
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 8: it now that I'm here, I really can see it coming.

1005
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 8: And I'm telling you, is Malin is gonna win a

1006
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 8: championship in two three years