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Speaker 1: Hey from a little vacation down in Uh, don't say

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get into some draft coverage. Kent Garrison

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Speaker 1: producing the show, Executive producing the show as he is

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Speaker 1: always and we appreciate his efforts. Uh want to get

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Speaker 1: Maybe I also want to get in though. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is a player that wins the point of attack.

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Speaker 1: so we can get okay. Um. Actually this is a

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Speaker 1: really timely one from Arthur based on what Dane was

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Speaker 1: saying right before the break. Uh more stock in take

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Speaker 1: more seriously, I think I know the answer to this.

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Speaker 1: But combine or Pro Day more important to you as

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Speaker 1: an evaluator, Well, I think it's they're different. With the combine,

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Speaker 1: we see everyone on the same level playing field. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's when when you go to different pro days and

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Speaker 1: campuses you have to worry about you know, the wind,

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Speaker 1: the track at the field surface, and there's so many

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Speaker 1: of those things that variables they have to kind of

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Speaker 1: factor into your times and different things like that. At

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Speaker 1: the combine, it's all uniform. It's all everyone's jumping at

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Speaker 1: the at the same uh you know, same drill and

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Speaker 1: same same every same height for the vertex, same management

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Speaker 1: for the you know, it's all set up already for you. Exactly,

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Speaker 1: so it's a little more consistent uniformed exactly. So I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, for me, that's really beneficial because you can

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Speaker 1: look at the combine numbers and you know, it's apples

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Speaker 1: to apples compared to pro days, where you do have

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Speaker 1: to factor in some different things. I think a pro

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Speaker 1: day is important though. If a kid doesn't do well

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Speaker 1: at the combine with a top definitely, you know, so

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Speaker 1: the way the way, and we're all veterans of this combine.

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Speaker 1: We've seen them push and pull and do this. Players

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Speaker 1: don't get any rest. It's a very difficult three or

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Speaker 1: four days for them. And the fact that they can

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Speaker 1: maybe run a better time at their school always gives

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Speaker 1: me a little bit of psychological help. People are clearly

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Speaker 1: listening to us because we've talked about this. So Steve

492
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Speaker 1: wants to know deepest position in this draft besides defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: Two positions I think stand out to me linebacker yep,

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Speaker 1: and wide receiver. That's fair, and I think we've been

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Speaker 1: spoiled the last two years with the wide receiver classes.

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Speaker 1: Two years ago is amazing, last year is really good,

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Speaker 1: and this year is really good as well. And we

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Speaker 1: might only have one wide receiver draft at top twenty,

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Speaker 1: top twenty five this year Laquon Treadwell. But then the

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Speaker 1: second round there's like seven or eight guys. You got

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Speaker 1: to consider it your luck sorting that at right exactly.

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Speaker 1: So I think wide receivers a pretty deep group. And

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Speaker 1: why I think we could see Treadwell maybe slip to

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Speaker 1: the teens because you know, if you don't keep that

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Speaker 1: receiver in the first round, you're gonna have a lot

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Speaker 1: of options in the second round. So even if Treadwell

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Speaker 1: doesn't go to the teens, I don't think it's Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's less about him, more about you can

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Speaker 1: get a later. Cornerback is another one for me. Corner

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Speaker 1: Cornerbacke And depending on exactly depending on if you like

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Speaker 1: Hargraves and Alexander Shorter guys there they'll be the top guys.

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Speaker 1: And then but you can look at Robertson Apple, Howard,

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Speaker 1: William Jackson, Mills candidate. I mean there's a list of

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Speaker 1: guys that I'm just talking that we're second, third round

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Speaker 1: type of guys. I think this thing goes down. I

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Speaker 1: mean I've got a guy like, uh, you know, Harlan Miller. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've got him like a fourth round He's a top

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Speaker 1: one hundred, Yeah, top one hundred type of players, So

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Speaker 1: there's some depth I think in the cornerback spot as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised at least to hear you say linebacker,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, I'm like, we're fixated on Jack. Obviously

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Speaker 1: Smith is there, but he's hurt. And then maybe Darren Lee.

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Speaker 1: I know you've got him pretty highly rated. But after

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, wow, that's all. I totally forgot about Reggie.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel first round guy exactly like once

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Speaker 1: you get past the elite guys that won't be there

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Speaker 1: in the second round. I haven't heard a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of talk about Deon Jones. I mean there's some guys

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Speaker 1: that are like middle undersize to me, Jones brothers a

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Speaker 1: coup with guys that are really good football players. But

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Speaker 1: where do you take him, right? I mean that to me,

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Speaker 1: where do you feel comfortable? Day two? I think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see something. Joshua Perry from Ohio stage a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a three down player. He's just a

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Speaker 1: Day two guy. Uh you know he mentioned brothers Dion Jones.

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Speaker 1: I yeah, he's in that third round mix. Jordan Jenkins. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's where we need to separate the pass rushers

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Speaker 1: from the off ball line. But I think of him

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Speaker 1: more as a defensive end in mind seven pounds and

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Speaker 1: then you know, like like guy like Scooby. Right. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not high him and I don't think you are either,

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Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna end up going somewhere in

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Speaker 1: the third round. So you know, I think these linebackers

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Speaker 1: are It's not not the deepest group, but I think

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Speaker 1: you'll be able to find starters outside the first round. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and well, which is now that's something I want to

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Speaker 1: look into because if Jack isn't the guy, you still

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Speaker 1: probably need lineback I mean, especially if you don't bring

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Speaker 1: back another one that meaner to see at the combines.

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Speaker 1: Antonio Morrison from Florida, a player who pops off the tape,

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Speaker 1: but he's had some knee issues. I really want to

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Speaker 1: see what the doctors say at the combine with his knees.

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Speaker 1: Aaron wants to know for the Cowboys more important to

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Speaker 1: you and this is I mean, obviously it's February. Knows

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Speaker 1: there's been no signings or cuts or anything. Defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: or cornerback more important to you going into this draft,

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Speaker 1: I think for this team. Yeah, I answered the question

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Speaker 1: on Twitter this morning. I think someone asked me just

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Speaker 1: on the side, and I felt like that with the

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Speaker 1: situation with Clayborne and then also potentially car Looming, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, and then it's really just Scandrick now, and

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Speaker 1: then do you want to you're gonna play You're gonna

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Speaker 1: play Jones at corner or you get to draft potentially

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Speaker 1: draft Ramsey Danny and I seem to think that Ramsey

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Speaker 1: would be a better safety, you know, you know, so

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Speaker 1: I mean, but the Cowboys very well might think that

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Speaker 1: he's a corner. Excellent somebody asked me this too, just

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Speaker 1: a very excellent chance to say this here, which I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't have a draft board yet, you know,

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Speaker 1: we are at all they Jalen. They might love Jalen Ramsey,

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Speaker 1: they probably do, but there's no there's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: a draft board March or April. I had a scout

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Speaker 1: and I walked into work the other day when that

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Speaker 1: all that news came out about him being Ramsey being

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Speaker 1: the top on their draft board, and the scout looked

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Speaker 1: at me and says, when do we get a draft board.

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00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: They don't do we do we have a draft board. Now.

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Speaker 1: They don't pay that thing together until what a month

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Speaker 1: before the draft exactly. Yeah. So ye, like for those

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Speaker 1: of y'all thinking that there's just these names on a

581
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Speaker 1: board right now, it's way too early for that. Well, now,

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Speaker 1: if Tony would have come out and said, and it's

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Speaker 1: Tony Pauline right as he's in Tony's great Tony's he'd

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Speaker 1: have come out and said, Ramsey's a top rated player

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Speaker 1: they have. If he would have come out, and if

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't use the word board, because board tells me

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Speaker 1: you've already put your names up there, and he is

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Speaker 1: the number one player in the stack, right, that's what

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Speaker 1: that's where. But I completely believe that he's the guy

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Speaker 1: that they think them most highly of out of all

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have a problem thinking that right now,

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Speaker 1: he's there a top five player. Yeah, he's a top

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Speaker 1: five you know. And you start talking again and I

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Speaker 1: keep saying this, you know, we might think he's a safety,

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Speaker 1: they might think he's a corner. There's a lot of teams.

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Speaker 1: I say, three quarters of the teams want to keep

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Speaker 1: my corner. Yeah, I want to because they I've talked

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Speaker 1: to some clubs that play the same schemes as the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: and they're selling him as a big, a big range corner.

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Speaker 1: They want the next Richard Sherman. Yeah, that's what everyone

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Speaker 1: wants anyway. Tell you what he's gonna Ramsey's gonna blow

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Speaker 1: up the combo. I mean, this is a guy that

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Speaker 1: could train for the Olympics if he wanted to, and

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Speaker 1: a long jump and a few other drills. I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna test really well. And for his size, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Tony might be right when they set their board well

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Speaker 1: and how boys will be lucky if he's there at

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Speaker 1: for and he might not even be. He's gonna he's

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Speaker 1: We don't talk about defensive backs as contenders for the

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick. And I said this over the

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Speaker 1: summer when I was I was working on him. I

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Speaker 1: took him flak for it. He's worthy at the number

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Speaker 1: one overall pick because if you take what you want

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Speaker 1: in a linebacker, a safety, in a corner, and you

615
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Speaker 1: combine it in the one player I think you get,

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Speaker 1: you have Jalen Rams. It's this why we like Miles

617
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Speaker 1: Jack too, because of all the combinations of things playmaker, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean well yeah, and the sheer variety of things

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Speaker 1: he can do, right, I mean you're not you bill

620
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Speaker 1: him as a linebacker, but he can handle like two

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Speaker 1: or three other roles. There's so many things. There's people

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Speaker 1: will fight you on the fact of the lack of experience.

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Speaker 1: People will fight you on that. Sure, they'll say twenty

624
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Speaker 1: five games. Jim Moore, his coach, even said that. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean that piece of the puzzle. I mean you

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Speaker 1: have to factor it in somewhat. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just like Carson Wentzet the factor in that uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, only a two year starter and most of

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Speaker 1: every start except for one was against FCS competition. As

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Speaker 1: part of the puzzle that you have to you know,

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Speaker 1: factor into these guys. It's it's it's what makes scouting, Uh,

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Speaker 1: You're really enjoyable for us because it's you know, you

633
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Speaker 1: have to pop the hood, figure out what's going on.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take some time before we go to Indie

635
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Speaker 1: and just write down some notes about what the storylines

636
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Speaker 1: are right now, you know, and see how it changes.

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Speaker 1: We have a great opportunity we would go to Indie.

638
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Speaker 1: We get to do our draft shows, every night to

639
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: kind of wrap up today. But the fact that you

640
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: get to sit down and we're gonna get to visit

641
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, we get to visit with UH,

642
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 1: with these UH, these linebackers and Blair and you know,

643
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, you can can get a little bit idea

644
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: what kind of kids they are. One more thing about

645
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: talking about Jalen Ramsey and what position is he. I

646
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: think that's one of the biggest thing with scouting UH

647
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: is fit because a player can you know, be an

648
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: NFL starter for one team and then struggle to act

649
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 1: to starting lineup in another because this team understands how

650
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: to use him while this other team doesn't. You know,

651
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: dem Buchan and out of Washington State, I did not.

652
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I'm with you on that. I didn't

653
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: have him in the first few rounds. Arizona takes the

654
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: first round and he's playing really well for them. About it, Yeah,

655
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: the way they use him, they identify his strengths and

656
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: they use them in that way. But if he goes

657
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: to another team and they try to pigeonhole him as

658
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, a deep safety or you know whatever, he's

659
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: not going to be a successful I think there's a

660
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: lot of guys like this in this class and thought

661
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: with Jeremy Cash and Suet Cravens, Miles Jack. I mean,

662
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: you have to use them to their strengths to get

663
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: the most out of them. And for a guy like

664
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: Miles Jack, that's not hard to figure out what his

665
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: strengths are, but so much about the draft process and

666
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: where they end up in their rookie years and how

667
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: they progress his NFL pros. It's they're fit and how

668
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: coaches use them. So uh, it's just it's something to

669
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: watch with guys like Ramsey and Jack and see where

670
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: they land and how that could project to you know,

671
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: whether or not they have instant success in the NFL.

672
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: We want to keep going or okay, all right, I'll

673
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: give you one, right, all right, I got too quick,

674
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: quick quick Trevor. And you know, Elliott's the first round

675
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: running back Trevor. Uh, he's got Booker, Collins, pro Sie

676
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: and Dixon. We've talked before about the log jam at

677
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: running back, kind of like y'all said with receiver. Yep,

678
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: how do you see that playing out? It's it's interesting

679
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 1: because you know, different you talk to different people, they

680
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: have different preferences for these second round guys, and we've

681
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: seen in the last few years. Uh you know Bishop

682
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: Sanky coming off the board. I think he was the

683
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: first running back, you know, two years ago in that

684
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: second round. Uh you know, just different teams like these,

685
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: different running backs and differi style, different styles exactly. Uh.

686
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: You know, we look at this year with Derrick Henry,

687
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: uh with he didn't mention Derrick Hendry, Right, No, Well,

688
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: depending on who you talk to, he's must be following

689
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: me on Twitter. He's either number thirty four or number

690
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: eighty depending on who you ask. Yeah. So well we'll

691
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: get into that. We'll talk about some of these backs

692
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: coming up though, But I I I totally agree with

693
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: you on the how you see these The wild card

694
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: guy to me is procise. Yeah, you know he hasn't.

695
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: This is gonna sound funny because here I want to

696
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: take a guy in Jack who hadn't played a lot

697
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: of plays, and I'm gonna turn around, I'm looking at

698
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: pro Sis. It's only Billy'd been a running back from

699
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: one year yeah, and not even a year. Yeah. I

700
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: mean he moved in the running back before yeah, and

701
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: and so, but there's just something intriguing about him. Now,

702
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: I agree with the Dixons, the Bookers. I agree with that,

703
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: but there's something very intriguing to me about Procis and

704
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: what he could do for a team. He's a physical dude.

705
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: I like him. Yeah, and he's a little too big

706
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: at time six one, two twenty and he's a big

707
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: target for defenders to hit. He's got something to him there,

708
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: He's got he has that something that that to me

709
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: that Henry doesn't have. Yeah, that the go. He doesn't

710
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: need an airport running, he doesn't need a runway out

711
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: there DFW to get quickness and that second birth to

712
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: go there you go. All right, I'm gonna try to

713
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: keep this on track this one, Brian, I think don't know.

714
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: This seems like a dumb question on the surface, but

715
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it is. Free agency hasn't happened yet.

716
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: Obviously there's pieces of every team that are going to

717
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: come together that aren't there right now. Mike wants to know,

718
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: how does that affect your draft strategy? I mean, for

719
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: you know, for instance, let's let's say they signed two

720
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: defensive ends in free agency. Your defensive end position still

721
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: looks a lot better than than it does now. Does

722
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: that affect your desire to take Bosa or you know,

723
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: yeah and whoever. I mean psychologically it would. But if

724
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: but you have to give these guys their due, you

725
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: if both, if you owe it to yourself, whoever your

726
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: top players are, if you great, great, great, the great

727
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: the position, put the board up. You've got some guys signed.

728
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: People get tired of me saying this a learner from

729
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: Ron Wolf there with the Packers. It just add another player,

730
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, if you feel good going to add another player,

731
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: if Bosa is your best player, do you feel like

732
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: long term, Maybe these free agents aren't the long term.

733
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: Maybe they buy I'm fished for a couple of guys. Yeah,

734
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: maybe it's not. Maybe it's a one. Maybe it's a

735
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: Jeremy Mincy. You know, if you go out and get

736
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: if they go out and get the Miami Dolphin, they

737
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: get that kid Vernon or somebody. Let's say they don't

738
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: bottom fish. Let's say they get a real then it's

739
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: a little bit different. But this team tends to bottom fish,

740
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: that's true. And when they bottom fish, I'm not thinking,

741
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm thinking bridge players. They're in mind to have more

742
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: caps face this year than they've had. Absolutely, we wrote

743
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: about this morning the mailback. They lessen a million dollars

744
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: of dead money. It's unbelievable. They have got fishing on

745
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: the mind. Yeah watch me, but you know to me

746
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: Mincy the bridge player, right, it helps Bosa walk over

747
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: the bridge to get into the job. Or Randy Gregory,

748
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: I feel you. I think, I mean, we don't know

749
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. They could free up a decent chunk

750
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: if you go, if you go big time and you

751
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: go out and spend money, and you go out and

752
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: get one of those affect your draft you got and

753
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: you go out get Miller. You got to get the

754
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: running back milk. Then all of a sudden, I'm like,

755
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: you know what, I love pro Sie, but guys, she's

756
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: gonna go play somewhere else. Ye sure, you know it's

757
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: psychologically you up. Does that affect your board though? Like

758
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: do you move pro Sie down your board? Put your

759
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 1: board up? Put your board up? Okay? Good, yeah, all right, good,

760
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: all right? Uh god, I want to get into I

761
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: want to get into. Uh like, say Mayok put out

762
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: his top five per position, and I wanted us to

763
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: talk about our top five per position, and uh, I'm

764
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: sure we can you know, I know that you could

765
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: go on and NFL dot com and look at his

766
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: his list. But with our group, I want to talk

767
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: about what we would have. And I'm just gonna go

768
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: through and this position. Again. You can go and look

769
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: at Mayo. There's some things that you know that I

770
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: don't agree with him about, and that's fine. He probably

771
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't agree with mine. But I want to put out

772
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: our top five by position, and and Dane Um and

773
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: Dave you can chime in. You've seen somebody, Yeah, yeah,

774
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: well I'm gonna let y'all do the heavy lifting. Yeah,

775
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna but but but feel free, Dane, we talk

776
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: about these wide receivers. Yeah, give me your top five

777
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: wide receivers on your board right now. And then if

778
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: we have a little time, then maybe a guy down

779
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: the line that you're kind of you know, maybe you're

780
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: six or seventh or eighth guy Treadwells one. I think

781
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: we both agree there. Uh, I think we disagree at

782
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: number two right away. Corey Coleman to me, I I

783
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: use some fun discrepancy here, not the biggest, but uh,

784
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: the dude's explosive. And Corey Coleman, I know you watch

785
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: him on tape and he's it's unchallenged routes. He's running

786
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: basically four rountes. That's it, right, and so there's a

787
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: projection there, but there's just too much skill level for

788
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: me to believe that he uh, you know, you won't

789
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: be a big time player. I think Corey Coleman's the

790
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: second one, second wide receiver. Michael Thomas is three. Yeah,

791
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is two for me. Okay, he's three for me.

792
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: So we are we're right there with him like first early, second, right, um,

793
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: and then four I'm I'm know I'm ahead of I'm

794
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: not ahead, but different than a lot of people. Farall

795
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: Cooper from South Carolina's my number four wide receiver. I

796
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: see a Randall Cobb type. I think he can be

797
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: an impact player for you in different ways that fifth spot.

798
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: This is what I struggle with because this is we

799
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: talked about wide receiver being a deep class. My fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth.

800
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean they're all very close, very close, and so

801
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: you know we're talking about Rashad Higgins from Colorado State,

802
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: Will Fuller, Dockson TCU, Sterling Shepherd, Braxton Miller, Tyler Boyd

803
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: and these guys are all closely rated in that second round.

804
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: It's hard. I mean it's kind of like, you know,

805
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: what kind of wide receiver do you want? In terms

806
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: of you know, who's gonna be your fifth guy? Yeah,

807
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: I would go. My order would be Treadwell Thomas at two.

808
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: I love this description. I went Dockson at three. I

809
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: went Kenny Lawler from cal as number four and Braxton

810
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: Miller as number five. I'm gonna get you guys to

811
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: like Lawler one day. Where do you have where you

812
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: have Corey Coleman. I don't have Corey Coleman. I don't

813
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: like his I don't like ninth on here you got

814
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: him as a third round? Great, Yeah, I don't like his.

815
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: His lack of heights scares me about five nine and

816
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, I mean you're not wrong. So again

817
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: I just feel like though that to me a little

818
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: bit bigger receiver. I know a lot of people like Coleman.

819
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: That's just me, you know, But I wanted to get

820
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: into that. Okay, let's talk about let's go with offensive

821
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: tackles here. I've skipped out well I shouldn't skip over

822
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: the tight end, so I've only done four myself. But

823
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: who is your who? Is your give me your just

824
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: give me your tight ends and if you could real

825
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: quick hunter, Henry, He's not gonna give you much as

826
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: a blocker, but as a receiver, he's not gonna drop

827
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: the ball. And he has rod acceler I agree with

828
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: you on that. He's at two for me. Second round.

829
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: Nick Vannette was my number two tight ends, better all

830
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: around player and your Bowl guyner Bowl guy three. I

831
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: have Duarte us UCLA. Okay, you didn't play him at

832
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver. We watched him last night. I play wide receiver,

833
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: plays slot. I've got him slide at at tight end. Okay,

834
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: he's twenty five six two, and I think he's gonna

835
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: get a little bigger. I think you can do some

836
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: different things with them, so you know, put him in

837
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: the backfield, do some different things. Duarte's and my number

838
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: three tight end Austin Hooper from Stanford a really vanilla guy. Yeah,

839
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: but and sometimes that's what you need or you know,

840
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: and talking fourth round, that's not a bad player. Fifth, fifth,

841
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: and sixth are kind of very closely rated. Henry Krieger

842
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: Kobel from Iowa, another senior Bowl guy, and then Tyler

843
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: Higby from Western Kentucky should have been at the Senior Bowl,

844
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: but an injury kept him mouth. The injury is really

845
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: keeping him from being a lock top five tight enda

846
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: Geral Adams does nothing for you at all. I like

847
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: him in the later rounds, but besides going down the scene, yeah,

848
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't give him much. Okay, offensive tackle obviously, Larry

849
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: Tunsel number one. Who is the best player in this

850
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: draft in my opinion, Ronnie Stanley is my number two.

851
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: Taylor Taylor, Decker three, Decker two and Stanley three, and

852
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: that's you won't be the only one. I think some

853
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: teams around the league will have that as well. Different

854
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: very different players. Four of Conklin, Ryk and State is

855
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: that your number five? And then number five Sean Coleman,

856
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: Jason Spriggs, those two guys in that mix. Spriggs, I

857
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: know he was voted the best offensive line with the

858
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. He didn't impress me in mom No, you know,

859
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: I think he has the body control the size that

860
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: you want. He can kick slide, but you run right

861
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: at him. You know, Sheldon Day showed that you can

862
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: go right through him. It's kind of the opposite of

863
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: Jack Conklin. You you can maybe go around them, but

864
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: you're not going through Jack Conklin. Right with Spriggs, You're

865
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: not gonna go around him, but you can go through him.

866
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: And so Spriggs I really worry about, you know, him

867
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: translating to the pro game. I don't. I don't think

868
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: he'll be able to start as a rookie. Um, so

869
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: I think that hurts him. And then Sean Coleman, you

870
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: know we know a story cancer survivor, right, but he's

871
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: a from you from Texas A and m first round

872
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: feet everything else. Uh, you know, it's a question mark.

873
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: So I've got him in the third round, but he's

874
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: not my This is where this is where the switch

875
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: is here. I think he I think he's a third

876
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: round player, but he would be my number five guy though.

877
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: Over Spriggs. Real quick, yeah, real quick. We're gonna take

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923
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: out there listening. We appreciate that we were getting into

924
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: our top five. Mike may I put his five out.

925
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: We're gonna put our five out. That's something that is

926
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: you evaluate these players. You can't be afraid to do that. Uh,

927
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, be willing to do the work and uh

928
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: put it out there. And if everybody's willing to do

929
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: the work, you should have some some good disagreements if

930
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: you can with the h with the into the still

931
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: in the offensive line here. Uh, guards is what we're

932
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: looking at right now. Center guards. You can combo him

933
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: if you want, or you can individual him if you want.

934
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: Which one do you got? Let's do individual? Okay, Number

935
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: one couldy white Hair. That's pretty clear cut for me

936
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: this year is Zach Martin. He's not quite as gift

937
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 1: as his acc but uh that call left tackle moving

938
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: inside to guard, he can start right away, So to me,

939
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: that's not just stay right right. Yeah. Josh Garnett from Stanford, Um,

940
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: you know he's he's kind of in that second round

941
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: range right after Christian Westerman Arizona State needed to everybody

942
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: needs to take a look at your Christian Western player,

943
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: A really good player. Uh really, the you watch Arizona State,

944
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: that offensive line was not very good except for that

945
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: left guard right Westerman is a good player. Denver Kirkland

946
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 1: junior from Arkansas. I've got him in my top five.

947
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: And then Joe Dahl from Washington State who had a

948
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: pretty nice week at the Senior Bowl. Um, it's another

949
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: college left tackle moving inside. I think he's in that mix. Yeah,

950
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: last night you saw the kid from Boise though. Yeah,

951
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: any thoughts about him? Is he more of a I

952
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: think he's a borderline top one hundred guy at late third,

953
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: early fourth, and he's in the top ten, didn't quite

954
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: make the top five, but he's always going to mess

955
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: up his name, Ohiam Mabou something like that. Yeah, yeah,

956
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: you're close. Your strength, it's not my strength. They're absolutely

957
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: right about that though. And then also though, did you

958
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: have Alex sanderd All from LSU He was number six

959
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: for me? Um, I like him, don't love him. I

960
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: have got him in the third. Yeah, so don't love him,

961
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: don't let what do you'll like about him? This is

962
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: purely like, No, it's fine, You're you're on the draft

963
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: show for four year player, three year starters playing right

964
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: tackle in college. That's not good for me. I don't

965
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: like that, and you don't want to plug him in time.

966
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: Don't think he play guards? Oh? I mean he could

967
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: play guard for sure, Um, but he you know, he

968
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: just never inspired me with his play. Yeah. And obviously

969
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: you're talking about two different positions, right, he didn't. Actually

970
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: I think he did spend some time at guard. He

971
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: was a guard, yeah, but he never I mean this

972
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: is not Lyle Collins. Obviously, like Collins was a top

973
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: ten prospect. I know he never did anything. And I'm

974
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: always down on the LSU guys. I'm with you too,

975
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: but I get ever, except for Robertson, we'll get to

976
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: that one. How about your centers. I think there's, uh,

977
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: there's a good center class. I think it's a really

978
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: good class. I think all five of these guys could

979
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: potentially start. Ryan Kelly from Alabama's number one fan of his. Yeah,

980
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: I think he can be a top forty player. Uh.

981
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: Draft pick Nick Martin number two. There you go there?

982
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Yea in that late second maybe early third round range

983
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: guard or center. Third. I have Jack Allen Michigan State.

984
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: Well you're preaching right, you're going right down my line.

985
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: Good at fourth Max Turk from USC, I went to

986
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: Missouri kid. He's my number five, okay, so we flip

987
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: them bow him evan, bam, bam. Gotta see one day

988
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get these names. Just it's okay, But then

989
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't get him right, just the oe does not.

990
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: You wouldn't say bow him there you ever. I mean,

991
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: it's always going to be like an a kind of

992
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: sound always well actually except for Boeing, I guess yeah,

993
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: there you go. That's smart old Yeah, I almost called

994
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: you something else. Yeah, okay, we flipped the Missouri kid

995
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: and and we flipped the USC kid fourth round range

996
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: for yeah, yeah, absolutely, okay. Quarterbacks, all right, now, okay,

997
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: this is I'm curious to hear if you rather want

998
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: to go running back, we do quarterbacks last no, no, no, no, no,

999
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: I want to I want to hear this. Jared Goff

1000
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: is my number one, okay, and when my number two.

1001
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: But they're touching, I mean I think tags are touching.

1002
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: Golf is like nine overall in my board, Wentz is ten. Okay,

1003
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: So when when people ask on Twitter, we said when

1004
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: the tags are touched. And that's what we mean. You

1005
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: could you could go either way right there. And so

1006
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: if golf comes off the board, and I'm not too

1007
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: upset because I know I can get wentz Um. Packson

1008
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: Lynch is my number three. I like Packson Lynch quite

1009
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: a bit. I just he's so it's such a projection

1010
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: there right, so young in quarterback years that in three,

1011
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: three to five years from now, Packison Lynch might be

1012
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: the best quarterback from this class. But it's such a

1013
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: projection that I'm going with the other two guys ahead

1014
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: of them. Okay, and who was your four or five?

1015
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: Connor Cook and Hackenburgh. But I mean a lot of

1016
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: confidence in Connor Cook. Here he sounded. Did you hear

1017
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: how unhappy he grudgingly? I mean, because Connor Cook he

1018
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: can start in this league. But he just has a

1019
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: to me, has as such a low ceiling. Um. I

1020
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: don't see him being this. This impacts every time you

1021
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: watch tape and something with Connor Cook, you're watching someone

1022
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: else playing, the ball goes flying over someone's head. I go, oh,

1023
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: we want we who were watching last night that defensive tackle?

1024
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: Thank you? We're watching an Indiana defensive tackle and they

1025
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: played State and like, Nope, there was no ball that

1026
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: hit a guy on the numbers ever ever, and that's

1027
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: why he never hit fifty nine percent completions. I mean,

1028
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: it's in his career. Just get him out of here.

1029
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 1: I got Lynch, I've got golf, I got WinCE, I've

1030
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: got number three would be a Winch is three, four

1031
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: is Hackenburg, and five is Brandon Alec at the High

1032
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: Riser right there. I like, I like third and round

1033
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: grade on Brandon Allen. Yeah, okay, which, and I'm not

1034
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: just doing that because of See I went back and

1035
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: watched him and he was the best. There's something. There's

1036
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: something there there for those of y'all they're there there

1037
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: who are not watching the camera feed. It's weird, like

1038
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: I think of us as being on camera. But I

1039
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: was listening to last week's show on my phone and

1040
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: it's weird like hearing it where it's just audio. Anyway,

1041
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Brian's got this thing broken down by grade by round. Yeah, which, Okay,

1042
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: here's the curious thing. I mean, you've you've said before

1043
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: you think Cook is a first round pick, right. I

1044
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 1: think he could for a team like like the Texans,

1045
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: A plausible at least I hope so, and you, uh,

1046
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: Hackenburg maybe too right, you've said maybe, yeah maybe, If not,

1047
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: he's going to go in the second round exact. So

1048
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: you've got the big three who are all probably top

1049
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: fifteen picks, and then your next guy's got a third

1050
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: round grade. Yeah. Do you think that that's true? Do

1051
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: you think that'll hold up? That's my board, that's what

1052
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: you think. That's my asking you. If you really think

1053
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: there won't be a I wouldn't put it on that

1054
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: paper if I didn't believe that was the case. That's

1055
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: this is your opinion. That's my board. But do you

1056
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: think that Christian has gone? That's what I'm saying. Oh yeah,

1057
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: that's my crazy I just I just proved to you

1058
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: I don't window dress my board. That's true, but that's

1059
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: what I do. So you think that they're you think

1060
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: all these highly paid teams to that do this professionally

1061
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: their boards. If they do, they deserve to have a

1062
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: bad draft as soon as the second rounds over the

1063
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: first picking. That third round, I think we're gonna have five,

1064
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: maybe six quarterbacks off the board that is the top three.

1065
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: This is terrifying to me. This is important. If you're

1066
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: talking about the Cowboys. But then again, I'm sitting you're

1067
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: doing radio with you too, I might not know what

1068
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: the hell I'm talking about. I mean we're saying we've

1069
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: all it takes is one team to like a cord

1070
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: You no doubt about that. If you look at the

1071
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: Cardinals and you know they like a guy like Christian

1072
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: Hackenburg or Cardell Jones, a player we haven't talk about,

1073
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: I mean they like him the late second, we're gonna

1074
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: take him, all right, we gotta move along here, all right, Yeah,

1075
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: that's fast, all right. I mean that's my board. Cardel

1076
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: Jones and Connor Cook you got in the fourth round.

1077
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: They're both gonna be gone by pick. I don't care, Okay,

1078
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: I don't care, all right, I really don't care. It's

1079
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: what I watched. Since I watched the tape I've got,

1080
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: I've got a four five on Hackenburg fourth fifth, So

1081
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's when I would he didn't like Hackenburg

1082
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: scares the crap out of me. Yeah, talking about mediocre

1083
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: players that are gonna go in first teams, busting the

1084
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: drafts all the time. What if the Cowboys doing not?

1085
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: It's terrified that we don't want to four twelve was

1086
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: not fun to cover last year. I don't. Okay, running back,

1087
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: we've kind of talked about the running back, so just

1088
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: go through the names. Yeah, Zeke clear Cut number one,

1089
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: I've got Derreck Henry two, I've got a second round.

1090
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: Really okay, okay, all right, that sounded mean. I'm sorry.

1091
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: I just I'm surprised by your surprise. He's just big,

1092
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: that's all he is. It's all he does for me.

1093
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 1: He doesn't have breakaway speed. He needs what he needs

1094
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: five yards of space. He had a steam thank you

1095
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanov with the runaway long all of Like, yeah,

1096
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: he's got impressive stats and stuff because he got more

1097
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: carries as a college player than most pro running backs

1098
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: ever do like, go ahead and finish, Dame. No, I

1099
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: he's what he's coming off, like, he's legitimately coming off

1100
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: like what a four hundred carry season in college? And

1101
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean, people who love analytics have to hate that. Sure,

1102
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: well he's already got stupid mileage on him for twenty

1103
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: one Alabama. It's just hate for Alabama. For Alabama, then

1104
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: you must not like Kenneth Dixon because he was a

1105
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: four year starter and he's got fair I mean that's

1106
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: a fair point. But I with Derek Henry, I've seen him,

1107
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: you know, make himself small through holes. I've seen him,

1108
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, have that breakaway speed, the second level runaway

1109
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: from linebackers. He has some quickness to him. He can't

1110
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: he's not he's not a big creator, but we've seen

1111
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: him do it here in spurts. To me, he can

1112
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: catch um all the backfield. He can pass protect. I've

1113
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 1: got a second round grade on him, a solid second.

1114
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: I think that's where's gonna end up. Going tast two

1115
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds. He'd better be able to pass protect.

1116
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: He does. He does the tape. I mean, where do

1117
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: I have him? You have him in the late third round? Yeah,

1118
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: I mean, all right, that's okay. He makes some really

1119
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 1: good points, though you know what I'll say this tech.

1120
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean, and we've talked about this before. Second round

1121
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: is second round, but I feel a lot better about

1122
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: him at like sixty than thirty four. Yeah, not drafting

1123
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: that thirty four. I agree, And that's why you know

1124
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: it's hard always the second round. Wait a minute, now,

1125
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: you wouldn't take him with thirty four. Well, no, there's

1126
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: a big difference between thirty four. You know, yes, early

1127
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: second round, but every second round you're even whatever you're

1128
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: about to say, you're wrong. There is a difference. I've

1129
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: got to say, Robert Blair or this guy Blair. But

1130
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: when you stop, I've got a second round grade on him. Yes,

1131
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: but when you stack up all your second round grade, yeah, altogether,

1132
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: Henry's not going to be the top second grade you have.

1133
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: He'll be towards the five Kenneth Dixon the second round,

1134
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: don't I you do? Yeah? Okay, go ahead. So what

1135
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: are your top five? I got? I would Elliott, Yeah, Dixon, Booker,

1136
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: pro Scis, and Jordan Howard and with in with and

1137
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: with the runway leader. This is the sixth guy the UNA.

1138
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: I like it, no, because I'm with you on Jordan Howard.

1139
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: He's my number three, behind Zeke and Henry and then

1140
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: I Booker, Dixon and pro Sys. So I think we

1141
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: have the same type s or yea top six, just

1142
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: different order. Yeah, we'll see how that all plays out. Okay,

1143
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: let's go these defensive ends left and right defensive ends

1144
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: got him number one, Bosa, mm hmmm, we're disagreeing. Off

1145
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: the top right, off the top, Oh, you got number one.

1146
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 1: I took Spence okay, as a pass rusher, sure, as

1147
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: an all around player. Give me Bosa all day, okay.

1148
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: And they're liable to take Bosa, and I have a

1149
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: problem with it. Spence. I like him as a pass rusher,

1150
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: but I just worry about you can run at him.

1151
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you can put put him in

1152
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: the game and he can't get to the quarterback. Oh,

1153
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 1: he can get to the quarterback if he's playing left end.

1154
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: Let somebody else get to the quarterback. It's fine, Bosa

1155
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: can control the game. Oh wait a minute. Now, we're

1156
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: picking up just a left end at four. I think, like,

1157
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we're we're gonna need to talk about

1158
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: this Bosa guy, which I mean, I have no problem

1159
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: with him taking Bosa. I just think you're gonna get

1160
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: a really, you're gonna get a good player, not a

1161
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: great player. It's early, but don't you just kind of

1162
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be there? Oh? Sure he is. And

1163
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: and get ready when they hand that card we're gonna

1164
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: have We're gonna be our coverage. Get ready on Dallas

1165
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com. I actually I'm sorry, Dane will be one. Yes,

1166
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: I mean it's February is too early for predictions. But

1167
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: if Bosa is on the board, I will say it right.

1168
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: If bos is on the board of four, on the

1169
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: board of five. Actually, here's the thing. I don't disagree

1170
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: with you. I don't know that February is too early

1171
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: for predictions. If you're days right, if you're if you're

1172
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: picking fourth. And that's kind of why I asked that

1173
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: question earlier. If they go out and get somebody in

1174
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: free agency, maybe then you're not talking about it. Changes

1175
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: to play Lawrence on the right side. If you have

1176
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: Lawrence over yeah, I don't think boss are primarily a

1177
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: left and I think he can do. I want guys

1178
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: that can play both, and I think Lawrence and Bosa

1179
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: can play both. What about Bosa backing up at tackle too.

1180
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: He can do that jump inside. People talk all about sacks,

1181
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: and that's fine. You know, will both to be a

1182
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: double digit sack artist? I don't think so. But he's

1183
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: still it's all about impact. I got. I took a

1184
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: lot of grief for saying he's Greg Ellis because of

1185
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: the sack numbers he's better. But okay, look at no no,

1186
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, But the sack numbers, look at what

1187
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: von Miller. Okay, very different players. Von Miller this year

1188
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: he had eighteen twenty sacks he had eleven. Yeah, oh,

1189
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean, sack numbers can be deceiving. Von Miller impacts

1190
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: the game each snap, but you know, we get focused

1191
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: on these sack numbers. At Bosa, he yes, he had

1192
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: five sacks. They look at his quarterback, hurries his tackles

1193
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: for a loss the tape. He's double and tripled teams.

1194
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: He impacts the game on every snap. And so give

1195
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: me a guy like that kicking side on third downs.

1196
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: I love Joey Bosa. That makes me feel a lot

1197
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: better because I'm I mean, and I'm sitting here thinking,

1198
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: at least a good player. I listen to you too

1199
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: much is the problem, because I'm so he's a good player.

1200
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: If you're picking fourth, I want I want what I

1201
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: don't want, he and he and he wants he wants sex,

1202
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: and okay, if you get but if he can do

1203
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: the things he's saying, that's worth it. Who would you

1204
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: take other than Bosa at four? Well, I mean top

1205
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: four players when you're looking at Ramsey, okay, Jack, okay, Bosa? Right,

1206
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean Tonsil's my number one guy, but I'm not

1207
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: taking my four Okay, okay, well then eliminate, eliminate him,

1208
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: then eliminate for the count, eliminate Tonsil. Right, who would

1209
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: you be the most happy with that? Of those three

1210
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: you just now? I mean, if I'm sticking to my

1211
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: board to be Jack, my number two player, my top

1212
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: four players, now I'm excited day Jack Zo Now I'm

1213
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: happy about it. I can't argue with that. And actually

1214
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: he made great points. I know that tread Will's still

1215
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: my guy. But the more we the more we look

1216
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: at this, and you've talked about it before, the more

1217
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: you realize like the quality of the players that are

1218
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: still gonna be there when they pick, It's hard to

1219
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: justify a wide receiver there. I mean like you're gonna

1220
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: have a pick between probably at least two of those

1221
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: three guys, and then you throw in the mix that

1222
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: it's highly likely that either it's definitive that one of

1223
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: the two of Goff or Wentz will be there, So

1224
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: then you throw that into the mix. You's gotta hope

1225
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland takes wins if because golf in play as as

1226
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 1: anti taking a quarterback at four, as I am, if

1227
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: Goff is there at four. I think that has to

1228
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: be the guy. But that's just how about those guys.

1229
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: K Garrison or executive producer, gave me fifteen more minutes

1230
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: of this show, so let's let's good conversation. Sorry, we got,

1231
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: we got, and we'll do We'll get through this and

1232
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: take one or two calls at the end, but we

1233
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: got fifteen more minutes of the show and then we're

1234
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: gonna Wenna call it a day. So okay, I've got

1235
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: I got Spence Bosa, I've got Shack Lawson as number three.

1236
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: I put Ronald Blair at four and Kevin Dott at five.

1237
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: Shoot holes in my my deal. I've got Buckner listed

1238
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: as a d end. Uh. You know he's gonna be

1239
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: different for every team. For some teams he'll be inside.

1240
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 1: I think he's probably best than three four. Yeah, that's

1241
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: that's kind of why I eliminated, I think exactly. So

1242
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: Buckner's on my defensive end board, Shack Lawson or Bosa Buckner. Uh,

1243
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: I've got Spence a linebacker, so he's it's a little

1244
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: different there. Uh. Your board is primarily reflecting a four three.

1245
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: I played a fourth three ski I played a fourth

1246
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: three Skime uh, Dodd and then Blair okay five, yeah,

1247
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: Blair at five, Yeah, I love you good? All right?

1248
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: Six man, anybody taken a fi all more than he's

1249
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: he's good. He's just there's no distinguishing trait there. You

1250
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: know he's good. Just you watch this white hair maul

1251
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: him to the point where he had to move over,

1252
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: beat up on that right tackle. But yeah, okay, defensive tackles.

1253
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: We got the ones in the three in my scheme.

1254
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: Now this is we'll definitely disagree here, just because there's

1255
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: you know, you could ask five different general managers. You're

1256
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Speaker 1: gonna get to five different orders. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: don't think I'm disagree with you here, Okay, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: shoot it. Number one, I've got Geron Reid. Yep, he

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Speaker 1: disagrees with I disagree with the number two of Sheldon Rankins.

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Speaker 1: I have n't was number two. I haven't been number two, okay.

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Speaker 1: Three of Candici, I have him number one, okay, And

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Speaker 1: he's a top ten talent, Robert him Dici. I like

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Speaker 1: what you said about him last week, though, what's that

1264
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Speaker 1: he I don't trust him at all? Ye, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to he's top ten talent. But he's not one

1266
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Speaker 1: of the top ten football players, doesn't. Yeah, And so

1267
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: at some point he's worth it. What's that point? It's

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Speaker 1: kind of like Randy Gregory last year. At some point

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Speaker 1: he's worth it. But you know where's that? Do you

1270
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Speaker 1: be surprised if somebody took him in the top ten?

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Speaker 1: Very surprise, top fifteen, very surprise? Really? Is so you're

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Speaker 1: saying he pulls a Gregory and false to thirty four?

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01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: Is he the slider? Then? Is he the slider? I

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01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: think back half a round one is where we're gonna

1275
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: say it's early and with a guy like this, it's

1276
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: it's delicate. We have to, you know, the combine be interesting.

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Speaker 1: What do you got who gets picked for? Spence or

1278
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: old Man? All right, Spence apostaid old miss you did?

1279
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: It's okay. I think Spence is a little more cut

1280
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: and dry in terms of his issues. I mean he

1281
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: had so you think Spence goes before Kim d Yeah,

1282
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: very strongly. That is an indictment on Robert Candici right there. Well,

1283
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: it's not just the off field, it's he can be great,

1284
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: but how much does he want to be great? And

1285
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: if even if you have to ask that question that's

1286
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: an issue. I watched three or four games of his

1287
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: tape with Brian and like, there's no denying his ability,

1288
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: but I just like, I don't, Yeah, you don't. I

1289
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: don't see it. Every in thirty three starts he had

1290
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: seven sacks, and I just got done saying how Saks

1291
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: can be deceiving. But it shows on tape. I mean,

1292
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: the production does not match the ability. You talk about,

1293
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: and you talk about impacting the play on every snap,

1294
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: but I never saw that from me. You see flashes, yeah,

1295
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: but there's no consistency, and you just wonder how much

1296
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: he loves the game. But again, the talent is so

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Speaker 1: great that that's why he's number one for you, he's

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01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: number three for me. So if you just grade the tape, yeah,

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01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: if you just grade the tape and don't know about

1300
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: the person, he's not a number. He's not the he's

1301
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: not the like. It wouldn't be that. I think you

1302
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: said it though, and I'm just trying to clear it up. Though.

1303
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: He is a top ten talent, just not a top

1304
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: ten football player. I'm not. What scares me is what

1305
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: he said, and we need to figure this out. What

1306
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: about does he really love football? I don't think that.

1307
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: That scares me a little that I hated me. I

1308
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: hate saying that about my scout came in and said, hey, Brian,

1309
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: I really don't think this guy loves That's like that

1310
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: would bother me a top. It's like box material for me.

1311
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't want quotes. I don't want dudes who don't

1312
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: like football. That's terrible. Well, and it's some guys. Will

1313
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: you know he is some guys on this team. You

1314
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: know they they they it's a paycheck. Oh, you know

1315
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: every team in the league has guys. Exactly. It's fair.

1316
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: But what's his value? And that's where you have to

1317
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: factor it in at some point the draft. He's worth it.

1318
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: But what's that point? Whould you have Billings? My number

1319
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: five four is a Shawan Robinson. Five is Billings at

1320
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: Billions at three? Okay, is Billings a guy that we

1321
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: might see at thirty four? I think? So you've been

1322
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: doing a little snooping around with scouts, haven't you. I mean,

1323
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: not these scouts, but scouts around these defense It comes

1324
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: back to this defensive tackle class. I mean not everyone

1325
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: is as high on Billings as a short I think

1326
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, and you know he ends up on

1327
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: the ground because of that. He the injury this year

1328
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: hurt him. I think a little bit um. But when

1329
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: you look at these defensive tackles, it's a it's a miss.

1330
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: It's different for every team. You look at the defensive

1331
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: tackle board in the late first round, early second round.

1332
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: That's why I'm not drafting defensive tackle top fifteen in

1333
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: his draft. No, I'm gonna get one in the late first,

1334
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: early second, especially the Cowboys. You can come away if

1335
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: I come away with Bosa and Billings first two rounds. See,

1336
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: that's what I was going to ask, you build that

1337
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: defensive line, and I think that's entirely possible. Maybe not

1338
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: maybe not Billings, but a defense I think. I think

1339
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: anybody paired with Billings makes it. You know, the names

1340
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: he gave you, whether it's Jack, whether it's Treadwell, whether

1341
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: it's you know, whoever it Bosa, whoever it is. I

1342
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: do not think you're I think you're pretty happy about that.

1343
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't necessarily work this way, but I can't.

1344
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: Isn't it just hard for you to imagine them spending

1345
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: back to back like top fifty picks on defensive linemen,

1346
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: especially a defense team of Super Bowl. Just did it?

1347
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: Rod Marriage say, football teams, I said them, you know

1348
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: what if your board I think, I think what's going

1349
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: to happen at thirty four? That board's gonna point him

1350
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: right that defensive tackle. I'm saying that right now in February.

1351
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: Defensive line. I think that's it. And upgrading the defensive

1352
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: line helps your corners, it helps everyone else on the defense.

1353
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: So absolutely, But who are your six through ten? Real quick?

1354
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: Because this defense down class really deep? Yeah? Who do

1355
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: you got six or ten? That's that's when you get

1356
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: into the Butlers, you get into Austin Johnson, you get

1357
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: into Reader Ridgeway as a guy. Robinson, I'm just naming

1358
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: the guys. You're You're right about the depth. I don't

1359
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: think there's as many three techniques form my scheme, whereas

1360
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: I think there's I think there's You love when I

1361
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: talk about one time, it's the only thing you ever say.

1362
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: I love techniques, Malie Collins, Yeah, technique possibly in a

1363
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: third round, Yeah, Sheldon Sheldon Day. Rod Marinelli used him

1364
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: as a defensive in Yeah. That. I didn't see that

1365
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: one coming. Like Marinelli is gonna be like, no, no,

1366
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: we don't need they're not at thirty four. We'll get

1367
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame kid in the four round like that's

1368
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: and and then you're interviewing him and you're talking to

1369
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: him like this, he's a bargain hunter. That's I mean, Nick,

1370
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: how about how about some players. I'm just saying, we're

1371
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: lining them up for you. I agree with everything you're saying.

1372
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is I just can't imagine them ending

1373
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: that I have a pick on a defensive tackle because

1374
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: they haven't done it. Ever. Where do you have Washington,

1375
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: Adolphus Washington or ten? You don't like him as much? No,

1376
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: that it speaks to the depth of this defensive tackle group.

1377
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: He's one of my three techniques though. Yeah, I mean,

1378
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: I've got a solid two on him. But he's number

1379
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: ten on my list because there's guys like Vernon Butler,

1380
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 1: who's a late one, early two, number six on my list.

1381
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: So I and Ridgeway is in there. Malie Collins, DJ Reader, uh,

1382
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: Chris Jones from Mississippi State, interesting, Austin Johnson, Kenny Clark,

1383
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: his defensive tacle classes were pretty okay. Linebackers all right,

1384
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: I've got Miles jack one there we go even if

1385
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith was healthy, that's off of the draft show today.

1386
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. Even Jalen Smith is hell

1387
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: mouth on it, it's never gonna happen. Just okay for you.

1388
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: Is Jalen Smith healthy? Miles Jack still your one linebacker? Yeah?

1389
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: I mean when I watched him both, it was Jack

1390
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: and Smith right there again, Tax touch Yu Tauch. I've

1391
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: got Spence in that mix as well, and then Ragland

1392
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: and Darren Lee my top five. Yeah, where I where

1393
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: I got it kind of messed up is with Jack Smith, Raglan,

1394
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: and then I had those two three four kind of outside.

1395
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna they could babe say yeah fact

1396
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: roll and then uh Ka Korea from Poisey, Yeah, good player.

1397
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: Those are my two guys. I got to find a

1398
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: spot for them because I think they could play somewhere

1399
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: because I know they can rush the passer though too

1400
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: so kind of fact will be a nice tight end.

1401
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: Tell me about Darren Lee though, because I need to

1402
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: do I need to do Darren Lee. He's interesting because

1403
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: he's a richer sophomore, came out uh you know, in

1404
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: high school is a quarterback and then Ohio State Game

1405
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: of scholarship. He was a scout team safety as a

1406
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: red shirt. They moved to the linebacker as a freshman

1407
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: in two and fourteen, and he's a big part of

1408
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: that national title Buckeye team in twenty fourteen. Uh took

1409
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: over for Ryan Shazier played a similar role for that

1410
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: Buckeye defense at walk out linebacker. UH and he's still

1411
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 1: very young in linebacker years, but UH, the talent is outstanding.

1412
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: He's he's in that Ryan Shazier quant Alexander type of mold.

1413
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: So late first round is a good spot form. Okay,

1414
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: now let's get to the cornerbacks, which can I get

1415
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: Do you expect the Cowboys to uh or maybe look

1416
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: at defensive backs because I just there's an interesting trend

1417
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: here on your board, which is that that's my board,

1418
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: But but you pick who to watch. Yeah, So, I

1419
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 1: mean you got some gaps here, you got some positions

1420
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: where you've looked at eight to ten guys, you got

1421
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: some I mean you looked at a lot of wide receivers,

1422
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: and then you've looked at every cornerback and safety in

1423
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: the draft. I mean, like, seriously, probably there's more I

1424
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: have to do. You've probably done thirty as opposed. I'm

1425
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: would tell you what how many I need? I need

1426
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: to do some work on that top corner. You've looked

1427
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: at about six offensive tackles and you've looked at about

1428
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: thirty five defensive backs. It's just just the way the

1429
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: board did trying to tell me something. I don't feel

1430
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: like you're trying to do. You know, the drill what

1431
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: we do. Dane comes in, Katie Kims and Jeff comes in,

1432
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: and I let them pick a player. I think you

1433
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: have an idea though, No, okay, all right, I don't

1434
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: have an idea. Okay, I'm here doing the draft show

1435
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: with you. Okay, you like Hargraves, don't you. I have

1436
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: a problem with me liking Hargraves. That's that's well, you're right,

1437
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: he remember on corner. Isn't he played small? You're right,

1438
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: you're right. And you know what? And and that when

1439
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: I when I talk about window dressing my board, and

1440
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 1: I had him. He was one of the first guys

1441
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: I did and I started, and every time I see

1442
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: him on tape now I go, Okay, he's my number

1443
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: one corner on the s board, and I need to

1444
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: figure that out. And and and in February. I'm admitting

1445
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: right now that I that if you if of all

1446
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: the first round guys I have, there's eighteen names or so,

1447
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: he's the one I have the least amount of confidence

1448
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: that I have him in the right spot. Right after

1449
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: the season ended, the players were cleaning out their lockers

1450
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: and I was talking to Orlando Scandrick about his rehab

1451
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: and stuff, and we were just kind of joking around

1452
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: for before I left, and I was he said some

1453
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: about getting him some help at cornerback, and I was like, yeah,

1454
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: Hargraves kid, and even maybe we'll get you some help

1455
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: in the backfield. And he says, I better not spend

1456
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: that high of a pick on a cornerback who's shorter

1457
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: than five ten. Yeah, And I go, you're shorter than

1458
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: five ten And he goes, I was a fifth round pick. Yeah.

1459
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Speaker 1: That's a lot of general managers in the league that

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01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: think the same way. Well, I, I, you know what,

1461
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 1: and that shame on me for growing up in a

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01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: program in Green Bay that did that and that, and

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01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: and I should know better. But if you ask me

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01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: right now who the player I have the I have

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01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: the boast trouble with where he and that and thank god,

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01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: I got seventy something days to change up. I need

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01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: to figure that out well. And it makes it tough

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01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: because Hargraves, you know, not the biggest guy, but he's tough,

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01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: he's competitive, he's smart. You know, the term coach's son

1470
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: gets overused, but his dad's linebackers coach for Arkansas, and

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01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: he grew up with the game. He grew up around

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01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: it very just well ingrained in his mind how to

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Speaker 1: play the cornerback position. So Hargraves is a good player,

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01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 1: but he does play small at times. That shows up

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01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,879
Speaker 1: on tape quite a bit. So as a run defender,

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01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: end in coverage. Yeah, and I think that I think

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01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: Mackenzie Alexander's another guy. Clemson It Clemson. You have to

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01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: if you're looking at the you're looking at the top wonders.

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01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: You're saying, whoa wait a minute, there's some guys in

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01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: that second, third, fourth round that have some range that

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01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 1: are taller, bigger, more physical type players. I have a

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01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: feeling that we're going to see some change, you know,

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01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 1: maybe somebody waits a little bit longer on those smaller course.

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01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 1: And that's I get asked all the time about Hardgraves

1485
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: at four for the Cowboys, and I'd keep saying, no,

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01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't like him in the top ten, you know,

1487
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: because of the size. That really worries me. I think

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01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,759
Speaker 1: he's a first round player though, So I don't disagree

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01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: with you there. Yeah, okay, And so we get to

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01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: go ahead and go through years if you would. I've

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01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: got Alexander one, Hardgraves two, Eli Apple three, Kendall Fuller four,

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01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: and William Jackson five. Okay, I got Richard Robinson in there. Talent, Yes, yeah,

1493
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: I agree with you. And I know people are very

1494
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: scared about David May's wonderful alma mater who won't play

1495
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 1: football next year because we have budget problems. That's so

1496
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 1: much bold anyway. But anyway, I think I think if you,

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01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: oh it's yourself, folks, to take a look at Richard Robinson, no, yeah,

1498
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: and just get an idea where he's it's very likely

1499
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: that Richard German effect. But I just love big. Did

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01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: you say you didn't say Xavier Howard? Did Xavier Howard?

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01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: Did you? No? I did not heed my number six guy. Okay,

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01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: I like him, keeping he's number five for me. Keep

1503
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: an eye on him, Baylor. Yeah, that's Okay, safety's real

1504
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: quick and then we and I'm gonna trying to take

1505
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: a couple of calls here before we finish out. Jalen

1506
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: Ramsey number one safety, Okay, Vaughn Bell, two, Cash, three,

1507
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: and then Darien Thompson, Carl Joseph My four and five. Yeah,

1508
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: I went Ramsey, I went Vaughan Bell, I went Carl

1509
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: Joseph at three, I went Jeremy Cash at four and

1510
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 1: then kneel the safety from Florida at five is the

1511
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: ones I went. So it isn't Joseph is coming off.

1512
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: He just got hurt, didn't he. Yeah, Combine, we big

1513
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: for him, for him. Yeah again, here's a run hit,

1514
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: blow him up. Always around the ball, ball gravitates towards him.

1515
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: Really really wanted to see him at the Senior Bowl.

1516
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: It's hard to get past the negative plays with him.

1517
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: That it's it's a little, it's a little. Yeah. You

1518
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: watch this highlight tape, yeah, first round pick. You watch

1519
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: the full tape and you see some of these negative plays.

1520
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: That's what we're I mean, I still have him in

1521
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 1: the third right because the positives are so good. I

1522
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 1: don't disagree with you, Okay, Uh, we said, thank you guys.

1523
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody chiming in on that. I hope everybody

1524
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: got a little bit of benefit out of that. Ken,

1525
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: I promise you thanks for giving us fifteen minutes. And

1526
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: can I turned the show over you for a couple

1527
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: of calls a week finish. Yeah, our good friend Denny

1528
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: in Hawaii has been on hold the whole show. Holy,

1529
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 1: how's your time, Denny? Denny, Aloha? What we do for you? So? Um,

1530
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: I have I want the zy two down number four.

1531
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: I don't care about you know, because I just think

1532
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: his impact will make the most of everybody, right, um,

1533
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: but um, I want to you know, I want to

1534
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: really sit down Marinelli and you know, really want to

1535
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: take read sure you know if he falls, if he

1536
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: falls to thirty four, because I think he can protect

1537
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, Lee and whoever's a middle linebacker instead of

1538
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, because because well I don't know what we're

1539
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: gonna do with Rolando McClean, but right like he can

1540
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: he can get the push and he can get the

1541
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 1: pressure as a as a number one. And thank you

1542
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: so much, a lord, Danny, thank you so much. Appreciate

1543
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: that he likes right, Yeah, he's smart, then he's a

1544
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: good he knows Ezekiel is an impact player. He'll impact

1545
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 1: your team from day one. I can't disagree with anything

1546
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: that he said about the player. It's just when you

1547
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: talk about running back, you talked about value. It's tough

1548
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: because you're talking about the highest percentage of uh. You know,

1549
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 1: players that can get hurt. Just the guys that touch

1550
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: the ball like that. It's so easy for them to

1551
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: get hurt. Now, Zeke doesn't have durability concerns from Ohio State.

1552
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: But you still just worry about investing such a high

1553
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: pick and a player that uh, you know, you could

1554
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: be gone on one player and you'd like read a

1555
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: lot too, don't you. I do. Yeah, And that's why

1556
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: if he's there at thirty four. Yeah, that card in run,

1557
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: that card in, we'll talk nicely. Doesn't have a huge

1558
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: radius of impact. But that's not much you want them for.

1559
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: You want him. He will help help Crawford and I

1560
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: didn't help, no question about it. I can't got one

1561
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: more in yet, one more Sean and Nova Scotia. You

1562
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: got the last word, Sean, go ahead, great, thanks, I

1563
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: appreciate you taking my call. A couple. Brian, first off,

1564
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: who's your number eighteen player with the first round grade.

1565
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: And since it's a grating season and you guys did

1566
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: the job with the Cowboys, I think, Brian, you guys

1567
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: and the writers did a great job. But I think

1568
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: you overvalued them. They weren't really a sea. They're more

1569
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,799
Speaker 1: d's and ease. Yeah that's fair, No, that's fair. I totally,

1570
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I looked at it. We

1571
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: gave I think we gave one player an F and

1572
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: that was Joseph randall right, who didn't even finish the year.

1573
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: That's uh, yeah, we were probably a little too nice.

1574
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: But hey see, I would think my eighteenth player, and

1575
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: I brought it up earlier, would be hard Graves. Yeah,

1576
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: because that's where I have my biggest question right now

1577
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: is does he deserve on my board to be the

1578
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: in the first round? What about like your bottom three,

1579
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: they're obvious ones that stick out besides Hardgraves that you're

1580
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: you're kind of at the bottom of your of your

1581
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: first round board. Yeah, do you have a guy that

1582
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: you're surprised you have him as a first round I

1583
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: mean Decker? I think with Decker, because I don't I

1584
01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 1: have deckered Stanley flipped. Yeah, so Decker. No, I'm just

1585
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: gonna put that on record. I already told you that

1586
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: they'll Decker will get you'll get taken. He's not I mean,

1587
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: I'm not window dressed. I think he's a first round player.

1588
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm not impressed. Okay, that's fine. That's another player I

1589
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 1: wish you would have thought the Senior Bowl. Yeah, absolutely,

1590
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 1: but yeah, so that's where I think Hargraves is my

1591
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: biggest Yeah, question mark right now, and I'll work on

1592
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: Decker for you. Okay, we'll see. Well, listen, thank you

1593
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,879
Speaker 1: so much, folks for calling in, thank you for the tweets,

1594
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: and thank you so much for allowing us to try

1595
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: and educate you as we begin this journey, or as

1596
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: we've already begun this journey. We've got a show next

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01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: week from the SBbc Mortgage Studios, and then the following

1598
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: week we're at Indianapolis, and we'll have shows every day

1599
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: from the Combine and Excited. We get there on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: and finish up on a Sunday, So every day we're there,

1601
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna try and have a draft show, so more

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01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: opportunities for you to chime in and hopefully learn a

1603
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: little bit more about this NFL Draft. So for my

1604
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,799
Speaker 1: buddies and my scouting partners for Dame Burglar, David Hellman,

1605
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Speaker 1: for Can't Carrison Executive us, I'm Brian. Thank you so

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01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: much for joining us and we will see you next

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