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Speaker 1: The volume. All right, man, we're back another episode of

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Speaker 1: Club five twenty podcasts. I'm the host of My name

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Speaker 1: is DJ Wells Special special guests in the building. Man,

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Speaker 1: to my left, we're gonna introduce my man's last But

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Speaker 1: to my far left, we got my dog. It should

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Speaker 1: be hearing out the prailes.

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Speaker 2: Are you what? Nasty?

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Speaker 3: Cool and nasty? It is midnight? God damn we in

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Speaker 3: the trap.

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Speaker 1: Baby, we're here. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours. I got off days. You know, I said,

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Speaker 1: Dre Listen. I know you keep your feats right, but

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Speaker 1: have you ever seen the black forces with the white laces?

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Speaker 3: N I like them though, So I get some tapped in. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I got you. Do get me right, Bro, I got you.

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Speaker 3: I got you. Gonna do the red relations too. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna send them out.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Restect your feet. Keep it classing, bro, keep

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Speaker 1: it keep the second.

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Speaker 3: Waight, Nah, I got your draft problem.

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Speaker 2: Whe you do that?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Just some ship up. Back in the day, bro, I

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Speaker 3: used to hoop in the middiest like when the traps paused. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: like so, and then I just put white license in

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Speaker 3: them and then ship niggas bit.

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Speaker 2: So hooping in the media forces is dangerous. I did

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Speaker 2: that too, though, sh she Wallace.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it's a different Yeah.

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Speaker 1: With the Peter Joints for show. To my right, my dog,

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Speaker 1: young natcho, young tig.

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Speaker 2: How you what.

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Speaker 1: I'm chilling, Bro, just lost a tough game. But shout

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Speaker 1: out to my boys that piking me. Oh, y'all far hard,

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Speaker 1: proud of y'all. But I'm chilling man excited, glad we

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Speaker 1: got another you know, another player in the bill legend

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Speaker 1: in his own right. You know you can't stand out.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for shore Man.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: People always give me a slapper saying I'm excited that

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Speaker 1: we got a Guess I'm like, damn, I supposed to

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Speaker 1: be mad?

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Speaker 2: What happy with the show? I know it's not man

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Speaker 2: for shure Man.

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Speaker 1: Listen, man, we got a two time All Star, thirteen

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Speaker 1: year pro won of the best rebounders to ever played

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Speaker 1: the game of basketball, the best. Yeah talk ya ship,

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Speaker 1: come on, man, stats, don't lie Man out there drumming

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Speaker 1: in the building, big dog.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate the slide on this, Bro, appreciate you hold on.

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Speaker 3: You said you're the best ever. It over Royan MM hmmm, dang,

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Speaker 3: I don't know about freaky rod.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Now we are chopping up though, Let's get it, Toto

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Speaker 3: it Robb is crazy forty.

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Speaker 2: You used to have some crazy.

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Speaker 1: That lines for sure, is the right points, the jokes,

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Speaker 1: rebound that twenty crazy, twenty rebounds and twenty points.

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Speaker 2: He's doing twenty rebounds and no points.

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Speaker 3: I respect the lineage, but is that is is Robing?

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Speaker 2: Who you bottle? Joe?

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Speaker 3: Who turned you into a rebound and nassigma bro.

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Speaker 5: Ship my rookie year when I came in Bro, I

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Speaker 5: called my high school coach and I asked him, I'm like, yo, like,

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Speaker 5: how do I stay?

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Speaker 3: I'm here, Like, how do I stay? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It's like you got to find something that you are

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Speaker 2: good at. Master that ship.

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Speaker 5: So I started looking at all the stats. It's probably

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Speaker 5: midway through the season, like probably aroung right now. And uh,

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Speaker 5: I seen like guys who have most points, most rebound

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Speaker 5: with flocks and steals and ship and I've seen the

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Speaker 5: I think it's white okay. And I was averaging like

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Speaker 5: nine point eight as a rookie.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good.

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Speaker 5: This isn't a sexy stat I could, I could, I

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Speaker 5: could be the best to do it really put my

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Speaker 2: I'm already averaging nine by not trying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, huh, I ain't worry about the numbers.

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Speaker 2: Right, the best thirty take the best rebout ever, We'll

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Speaker 2: take it.

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Speaker 3: But you well, but you had crazy stats in like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like yeah, But to touch on the rest of

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Speaker 5: the topic, just ive seen the stat line I said,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm gonna try to be the best of

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Speaker 5: it is.

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Speaker 3: I just mean so far as like when you was

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Speaker 3: but I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Like naturally bro okay, natural natural gift of just like

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Speaker 5: having a knack of word of balls because I found

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Speaker 3: I just think that I thought you started your journey then,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And I felt like you

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Speaker 3: was I don't I can't remember because I was telling

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Speaker 3: them before, like you was known to me before Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis came on a little later. I feel gross exactly.

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Speaker 3: So I feel like you was like one of the

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Speaker 3: first ones that was like on the tone call. I

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Speaker 3: think you know, like sophomore year was really like killing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when it started for me. Sophomore year, sophomore,

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Speaker 2: junior year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, because your stats then, so to hear you

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Speaker 3: say it started in the league is kind of crazy.

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Speaker 2: Redacted is the better word for that situation.

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Speaker 1: That. Yeah, reacted. Listen, shout out to that community. Bro,

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Speaker 1: I'm the global basket specially. Limits can't do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's his figure of speech. Respect me to everybody.

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Speaker 2: That's that's how you correct the love here man, Because

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Speaker 2: basketball talk, I wouldn't listen.

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Speaker 1: We know you with the sixty right now, we want

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Speaker 1: to take it back to the beginning. Man, Listen, there

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Speaker 1: was a talking you know what I'm saying on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: I see your shots and moving backward connection. Uh, this

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Speaker 1: is you know what I'm saying. The Fever Squad I

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Speaker 1: was on you know what I'm saying you seventeen. I

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Speaker 1: had a conversation him and Quinn Cook was going back

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Speaker 1: and forth about who was getting killed by Kyrie. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Now, you were present with this.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying as a as a party,

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Speaker 1: you have no bias in this.

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Speaker 2: What really took place.

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Speaker 1: You even remember that happening or was it just Kyrie

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Speaker 1: was killing everybody because we try to get to the

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Speaker 1: bottom of this whatever Kyrie did that more than he

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Speaker 1: was letting people happened. It was we got ce b,

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Speaker 1: It was fucking James Cole. Everybody was just it was

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Speaker 1: just one of them days.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: You know, Kay's a special talent. And yes, sir, when

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Speaker 5: he gets into that mode of just like him being himself, like,

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Speaker 5: it's fun to watch, bro, Sometimes you just gotta stand

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Speaker 5: to a side and just like, damn, this nigga is

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Speaker 5: really good at basketball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's when we had fifty on me in Brooklyn, Brooklyn.

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Speaker 3: Did you see that though? Back then? Like damn, he's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a star.

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Speaker 5: And I played against Kaye high school too, so I

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Speaker 5: got to see him then to college, you know, him

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Speaker 5: getting her early than obviously being in the league with

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Speaker 5: him at the same time, and some of the ship

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Speaker 5: some of the stuff he does, Bro, it's just.

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Speaker 2: You can't teach that. Broye unbelievable talent for sure.

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Speaker 3: So he got a neutral answer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he kept, he kept. Yeah. Yeah, we tried to

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Speaker 2: get about you say, this shot, que put it on market.

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Speaker 1: Quick, that's for sure. Put it on Marcus, Marcus put

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Speaker 1: on y'all gonna share that. Yeah, shared the torture that day.

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Speaker 1: But that team along that was fire.

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Speaker 5: Shout to Brad bial Man, Bill, Jason Randalls on our team,

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Speaker 5: Johnny O'Brien do Yeah, who is missing?

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Speaker 2: Tony Parker, Gil Kers on our team too, right, Chris

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Speaker 2: is on our team. Damn. Everybody almost made the league

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Speaker 2: on our team. It was close to is.

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Speaker 3: That who went to Did he go to North Carolina?

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Speaker 2: Damn?

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Speaker 3: I remember him? Yeah, that's great, James. What's he he

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Speaker 3: put for the words for a little bit? Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about that. But y'all was loaded.

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Speaker 2: They had a good team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Being started off there talking about you high schooldays. Obviously

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Speaker 1: he was killing men. Let's talk about how you got

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Speaker 1: to Yukon. Man, Are you the greatest walk on ever?

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Speaker 1: Because we had a guy named John Lucas Lucas my dog. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he walked on at Oklahoma State. He said he's the

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Speaker 1: greatest walk on and I heard. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: It was he ended up winning Player of the Year.

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Speaker 2: Little my dog.

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Speaker 3: But hey on, no, hey, no, it's Scottie pipping. Okay,

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Speaker 3: study shout out a look, but you got a great

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Speaker 3: great orchard story. Great, yeah, my nigga, But I'm sleep

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Speaker 3: on that. Okay, stay, I'm not going brow Scotty scott Now,

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Speaker 3: how did you land you?

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Speaker 1: We walked on at Baylor? No way was there committed

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Speaker 1: robbery if she was to walk on. Hey, my boy

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Speaker 2: He walked on. That's crazy, Like, that's crazy? But how

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Speaker 2: did you like? What happened to make you a walk

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Speaker 2: on at Ukon? Well, I graduated.

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Speaker 5: I graduated high school, and so I didn't go to

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Speaker 5: school with my my friends in public school.

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Speaker 2: I went to a board of school the same time.

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Speaker 2: It's more, and.

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Speaker 5: After I graduated, like all my boys, we all wanted

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Speaker 5: to like finish school together and just go our separation

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Speaker 2: But my family had other plans for me. Uh.

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Speaker 5: I think it was maybe in August, late August, right

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Speaker 5: before school started, and I'm getting ready to decide where

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Speaker 5: I'm going to go, and my family had an intervention

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Speaker 5: with me in the basement of some godfather ship. Life

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Speaker 5: was damn and all that my aunt's uncles, my mom

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Speaker 5: aside and said, listen, we don't think you should go

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Speaker 5: back to high school. And so I'm like, well, we

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Speaker 5: already got the plan or picked the school. You know,

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Speaker 5: we're all going yea, Like now you're picking the college.

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, all right, so we're picking the college.

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Speaker 2: Where am I going? So?

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Speaker 5: I love North Carolina. At the time, Carolina was my

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Speaker 5: favorite team. Kentucky was another went to John calip period

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Speaker 5: to this day still says I'm one of the only

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Speaker 5: players that he didn't get that he went after.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you made a good decision though, Yeah, you

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Speaker 6: com man, So I chose you u Kon. They didn't

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Speaker 6: have any scholarships. I still wanted to go anyway, so

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Speaker 6: I took a took a lone out.

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Speaker 5: I knew I wasn't staying longer than a year anyway,

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Speaker 5: So I paid the ship back at some point in

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Speaker 5: time for sure.

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Speaker 1: So like, what made you pick Yukon though from Connecticut? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know that, I didn't know if it was like

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, Connecticut.

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Speaker 5: Already had the history there, like seeing them as a

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Speaker 5: kid going to the games, seeing Jerome dicing and how

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Speaker 2: All right, Damn Michael, I love you when I was

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Speaker 1: Where you rank yourself as big in history, I just

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Speaker 5: The list of guys that Yukon has me, it's hard

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Speaker 1: He just made you kind of look cool to me,

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Speaker 2: Criminal smart I said that ship to another day to

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Speaker 3: He was the X factor on that team for sure.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't know I was going to go that

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Speaker 1: Obviously you know you landed in Detroit, but it was

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Speaker 5: Sacramento, Sacramento and uh, Portland. What are the two teams

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Speaker 2: Damn, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you got a hoop

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Speaker 1: at midnight, like, bro, you can't hit me up earlier

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Speaker 5: My agent said, get your ass up, you gotta work out.

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Speaker 5: How many teams you work out for?

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Speaker 2: Three?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yours Cleveland second. Uh uh, Portland, y'all had it.

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Speaker 1: That's a hell of a draft.

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Speaker 2: I had too. Great draft.

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Speaker 1: Great draft, especially you're looking at drift. You got Chris

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Speaker 1: Brandon Jennings straight Yeah, shout to be one of my

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, bro trying to be Jens.

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Speaker 3: But that's crazy, bro, this is all over that.

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Speaker 1: of coaches? How long you played for Frank season?

443
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 2: Damn?

444
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 5: And then stand can standing to come to Damn? Who

445
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 5: was We had more cheeks after John Lord, so it

446
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 5: was Lawrence, Frank, John lower cheeks, Stan and Gunny Dayne Casey.

447
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 2: I guess I remember doing Yeah, how many years?

448
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 3: What was you in Detroit?

449
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: I don't remember who was your coach when I hit

450
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 2: you with that move? Damn? It was a move. I

451
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 2: hit him with a fake bounced past. Oh, you know,

452
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: trying to reach.

453
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: So when you played picking rolls, he'd be trying to

454
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: rip the guards and get them. You got good hands,

455
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 1: So I faked like I was going past it to

456
00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: the big and he went for I was like, but

457
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: he be ripping guards all the time. He go down

458
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 1: and dunk this ship. But now you and Brandon Jennings

459
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: in that picking roll y'all throwing it off the backboard ship.

460
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 2: I like when y'all got together.

461
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: That was man, what's so crazy about that is there

462
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 1: is an infamous Patiers game that y'all whooped our ass

463
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: and that's all brand just did with throw libs to you.

464
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 2: It was crazy and louis gonna find the clips.

465
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: It is always resurfacing, bro y'all was murdering us and

466
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: all they was doing throwing live.

467
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: I was like, God, damn, you gonna let him score,

468
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 2: let me score. We didn't. It was either way. It

469
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 2: was we had no say. So that situation, y'all was

470
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 2: killing us. Girl. I remember when he was when he

471
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: first came in the league, you know, talking to like

472
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 2: the older guys.

473
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 1: Like he's strong as fucked. I'm like, the dude only

474
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: like nineteen, like he grown, like he's so strong. So

475
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: when he was set screens like he slipped, he slip

476
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: out of him a lot and go get the live.

477
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 2: So I used to be scared because everybody talk about

478
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: strong years. I'm like, man, don't hit me, don't hit me.

479
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: Hit me. Yeah, slipp I'm like, thank God, but I

480
00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 2: wouldn't play no defense.

481
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: Here, go get the live. But now y'all picking roll

482
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: was crazy. I just want to ask you Okay, you

483
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 1: was there when Josh Smith got there, smoove and y'all

484
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: had Greg Monroe.

485
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 2: That was a big ass team. That was one of

486
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 2: the sickest. That's one of the worst line ups.

487
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: You know. I started lining with chilled Josh Smith, Greg Moreau, myself.

488
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 3: Know, damn y'all straight to fence of mind. Yeah, at

489
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: the three, I said, we're good.

490
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,239
Speaker 2: I love Josh. No way, he's playing the three, bro,

491
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: Ain't no way. I was running up and down to

492
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 2: work though. They had to take they had to get

493
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: smooth off the bench man they put on in there.

494
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that made me sense though. Yeah, he's a natural

495
00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: three playing smool run the floor. Yeah, but was trying

496
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: to make shore threes in the era that was keep sure,

497
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: work on your guys.

498
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god. But you know that was like.

499
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: No matter.

500
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: But that was a lot of I was like, yeah,

501
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 2: this is gonna last facing.

502
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: I want to get back to that. But you're talking

503
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: about the physicality factor, how strong you are. How was

504
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: your adjustment to the NBA from college?

505
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 5: It was different because I remember my first few games,

506
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 5: like playing against like real grown man. I'm like, damn,

507
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 5: I gotta start fucking lifting weights and then we played.

508
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 5: I played the White for the first time, and that

509
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 5: was the day I was like, yeah, I need to

510
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 5: really like because I never felt so helpless as a

511
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 5: player in my life. Like he was like doing the

512
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 5: post move and I just was like not there, like

513
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 5: just hit me finished. I couldn't count stop him. So hey, man,

514
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 5: welcome to the league.

515
00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 3: Moment.

516
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, hour, for sure. It was personalized, like every time

517
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 5: I saw the White I tried to violate. Yeah, like

518
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 5: it was personally. I didn't like what he did.

519
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, the White was he was laughing and ship your

520
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: big as kids, giggling and ship scoring on me, you know,

521
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: dunking the ball.

522
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: I can't do about it. You gotta take that though,

523
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: brocept that ship.

524
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: You realize you physically not ready. That was Orlando d Wight. Yeah,

525
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: oh ship, you didn't even see Orlando Dwight. I don't

526
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 1: want to play to young Orlando Dwight. He did, bro

527
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,479
Speaker 1: on top of your mock biscuits. Man, what I used

528
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: to I threw a floater, hit the top of the backboard.

529
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: I shot it at the front at the top of

530
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: the backboard. The White was crazy. It was like he

531
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: blocked everything and people, I know, whatever you say the

532
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: junxst is cool, but like the reason why they got

533
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: to the finals was because.

534
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 2: The White was that good.

535
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: There was a Progression team that had all shooters. Turk

536
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: was a six nine point but Dwight Howard was like that.

537
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 2: Man.

538
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: He was still prop double machine though in Houston.

539
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: When but d White and fucking he was. It was

540
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 2: animal for sure. All your rookie year he was know

541
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: this might be a sophomore year.

542
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: I believe he was a part of the infamous He

543
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: didn't play much that game, but the infamous Kyrie and.

544
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: The night back and forth to witness that live. That

545
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: was my rookie year. I was hurt. I had a

546
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 2: trust faction in my back. Yeah, I was there for that.

547
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: That ship was insane, Like we need that energy back

548
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: in the All Star Game. But I know the guys

549
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: going at each other. Man, that was great basketball. Like

550
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: we're still talking about that teen years later. Yeah, that

551
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: was e lead basketball. You had Tim Partaway and Dion

552
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: Whiter's do it Like, I want that ship too, Yeah,

553
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: we need the energy. Bat How was that to be

554
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: a part of that environment though.

555
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 5: It felt like streetball, man, It felt like we was

556
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 5: really just out there hooping with no conscious No one

557
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 5: was thinking. It was just like you get a bucket,

558
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 5: I gotta scoring, you know, like it was it was dope,

559
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 5: like guys were really really playing.

560
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: Man. Brendon Knight was cold. He just got caught up

561
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 3: in a lot of bullshit moments.

562
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 2: He was was hard, he was he got something.

563
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 5: One of the most hard working people I met my

564
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 5: tired life and we have the same trainer at Miami shot.

565
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: At the remy workouts. He came man.

566
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: He worked hard at ship.

567
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 2: He a solid nigga too, man solid. It was cold.

568
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: I mean he still is good at basketball, but he

569
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: was super cold. It's just people catch him on the wrong.

570
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: Highlight and he got highlights. Yeah, Like his highlight tapes

571
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: are crazy.

572
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: They just never playing, but they always play him getting

573
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: dunk across by carry.

574
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: But time that mother dunk that it's one of the

575
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: most because he failed and went flat.

576
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: That's when memes start first coming out. He fell into

577
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 3: somebody cask and the closed that bitch me, that's crazy.

578
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: But you.

579
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 5: Remember watching that ship, bro, because I was still hurt.

580
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 5: So I'm sitting I'm sitting on the bench in my

581
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 5: suit watching this ship. Mind you, I've never seen Lop

582
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 5: City live until this game. So when I saw that ship,

583
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 5: I'm like, Nah, this.

584
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: Is the NBA for real, like they had, Man, I

585
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: gotta talk to you. I would never handle that. Man.

586
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: Who are you best big to play it against so

587
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 3: far in your career? White or somebody else?

588
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: Man Jokic and Be a couple of years back out

589
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: of those suits, I would saying be because he's more physical,

590
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: Like I had to really like put force in the

591
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: guarden him with K I just used my speed. I

592
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: just guard him.

593
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: But he's scrafty man, crafty, crafty player, smart, how his

594
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: teammates involved.

595
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like high man.

596
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you make one bad move, He's going you make

597
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: you pay for it. Do you like this era? Like

598
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: because you don't, I hate it? Click?

599
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: But do you see it kind of like turning a

600
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: little bit though, because they're starting to go back a

601
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: little bit. Say you got some bigs that can play

602
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: like I know, like thirteen years ago used to throw

603
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: the ball in the post on like let get after it.

604
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it.

605
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: Went to all threes like usually to catch a live

606
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: where you gotta shoot all threes. And now I see

607
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: it kind of transitioning back to like you can throw

608
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: the ball in the post some of the bigs and

609
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: still operate.

610
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: And you said you hate this area, so I respected.

611
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: How do you adapt though?

612
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: For me?

613
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's being being athletic is really will helped me

614
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 5: throughout the throughout the changes of the game, Like when

615
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 5: they were playing small ball five and everybody shooting threes.

616
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 5: I was able to guard one through five. You know,

617
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 5: I really kept my body right throughout that time. I

618
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 5: didn't let you know the game like, yeah, I didn't

619
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 5: let it. I let it happen because I wanted it too.

620
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 5: And I offer the service that teams always seen. I

621
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 5: still give you fifteen rebounds. Then they got to guard

622
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 5: me in the other end.

623
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: Two. So choices, Jorge, you really want to keep putting

624
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: a six y five guy on me and I can

625
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: guard him to Yeah, choice is yours. How you want

626
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: that to go? Keep you in business?

627
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: For sw I want to ask you, as a crazy rebounder,

628
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: more shot attempts, a lot, more crazy er threes week,

629
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: Does that help your brand?

630
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: Easy? For sure? Keep shooting that. If you want to

631
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: get it, I'm gonna get it.

632
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: In fact, I never thought about it like that, like, yeah,

633
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: if I'm a rebound. I'm like, yeah, shoot sixty thirty. Yeah, shoot,

634
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: that ship.

635
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: Helped the payroll.

636
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, contract it.

637
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: I want to talk about mayor first All Star and

638
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: it being one of the most special Offstar games around.

639
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: Man, how was that moment?

640
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 5: Crazy Kobe's last All Star game? Sane insane in Toronto?

641
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was.

642
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 5: It was cool to ship out there, like you wouldn't

643
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 5: even enjoyable, Like you couldn't even like walk off side

644
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 5: in piece, like you will freeze the moment you steppedup side.

645
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 5: But that game in itself was just memorable, like start

646
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 5: to finish, from like walking into the locker room seeing him,

647
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 5: you know, being on the same court as him, being

648
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 5: able to interact with him, knowing that this is like

649
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 5: the last time you'll really be on the floor with him.

650
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 5: I think we played them already twice, so I didn't

651
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 5: get to see him again after that, And it was

652
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 5: just a special moment for me because as a kid

653
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 5: growing up and watching Kobe and watching the things he's

654
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 5: done with this league and to have a moment to

655
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 5: share the court with him one last time like that shit.

656
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: Is You'll never forget that, bro.

657
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 5: Like I got the highlight tape playing in my house

658
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 5: in Miami for no reason, like it's just circulated.

659
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: Just that Again, did you like when you got announced

660
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: that we're gonna make the All Star Team?

661
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: What was that film?

662
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: Like?

663
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: I know, like getting drafted is the ultimate feeling. But

664
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: when I got my one night all start not like that.

665
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: Shit felt like unbelievable. It's a crazy feeling. Yeah, it's like, nah,

666
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: this is it, Like I'm at the pinnacle, like I'm

667
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: top twenty four or whatever.

668
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 5: If you want to chasing you start chasing it after

669
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 5: that once you get there, like no, I got to

670
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 5: stay here, like if you get it once and always.

671
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: Have to just disrespect me every.

672
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: Ship after Early I said this Nigga talking about his journey.

673
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: Were talking.

674
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 4: He said, when you make it once, it's a fun watch.

675
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 3: I got he do that a lot. He get offended.

676
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: He's saying, Nigga, he's trying to chase it. You want

677
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: to keep going because you don't want to make it.

678
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: You don't want to make it once, and it is

679
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 3: a fluke like that.

680
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: I try to give it Early I made it once.

681
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: No, definitely definitely a great time man, just having my

682
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: name being called uh for the work that I put

683
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: in help my team get into the playoffs YouTube and

684
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: that was the first time they made it since two

685
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: thousand and four too, So yeah.

686
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 5: An amazing experience, not even just for me, for my family.

687
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 5: I think that's what really meant more than me being

688
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 5: able to share that moment with my mom and sister,

689
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 5: because those are like my my staples, Like that's who

690
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 5: who I.

691
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: Would lean on.

692
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 5: So to share that moment with them, have them be

693
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 5: there on a stage where they get to see Lebron James,

694
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 5: you know, and these other these other big time people.

695
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: It's nothing like it. And I want to shout out

696
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:30,239
Speaker 2: your fan man.

697
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: Like you said early on the you know what I'm saying,

698
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: we see a lot of situations where people are in

699
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: situations where they got to pull their family up and

700
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: make all the decisions. Your family held you down and

701
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: say nah, we're not going back to high school. We're

702
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: looking at your bab So it's for them to be

703
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: a positive influencer your life and for them to enjoy

704
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: that moment. Like you said, that's fire both.

705
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

706
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 5: Seeing everything come to fluition, just everything that we planned

707
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 5: and you know, prayed about.

708
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: You got a lot of faith in your mama, and

709
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: Mama always said, Man, I got that.

710
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: Six twelve, get that money.

711
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: First, shout the games, Come ye wrest, come shot the mom.

712
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: Man. In fact, shout everything you do, shout shot the man.

713
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: Listen, I want to talk about I mean, we're going

714
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: to talk about other teams the show, but one of

715
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: the most unappreciated years is Blake Griffin and Detroit.

716
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: Man.

717
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: Man, he won't need to speak on that more about

718
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: I know people talk about his Lop City days, but

719
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: what he did that year he was still hurt as well.

720
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: Y'all was going crazy to get into the playoffs. Man,

721
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: talk about that year, man, because b was in the

722
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: what top three and vy people they both of Hooper

723
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: that year that I was killing.

724
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: I think we knew that if we didn't do it,

725
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: now this is it. M hmm.

726
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 5: So like between myself, Reggie and Blake, you know, we

727
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 5: came together that summer like yo, like now is the

728
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 5: time we know Blake, you know he was having the

729
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 5: knee issues, Like if we don't get the best out

730
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 5: of him now, like so this is this is it?

731
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 5: So I think we just had that that disposition in

732
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 5: that mindset that we weren't going to be denied, and

733
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 5: we just had this level of focus as as a team.

734
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 5: I didn't just us three, but as a team, he

735
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 5: had this level of focus that like, now is the

736
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 5: time because if we don't do it now, we're all

737
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 5: getting fucking shipped out of here.

738
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: It happened, and it happened. So shrut to Blake Griffin. Man.

739
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 5: You know, he he didn't have to do it, Like

740
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 5: he didn't have to put his body through that throughout

741
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 5: the entire season, come back during the playoffs and still

742
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 5: try to play on a on a hurt knee and

743
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 5: still produced, still produced. So you know, Blake was one

744
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 5: of my favorite teamates that I had to You know,

745
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 5: he definitely got the best out of me too, because

746
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 5: I was still learning. I was still young, bro, Like

747
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 5: if you really think about it, like I was twenty six,

748
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 5: twenty seven. You know, Blake has been around for a

749
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 5: minute and he's an established guy too, So I learned

750
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 5: a lot from him too about just being a winner.

751
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 5: So shout out to Blake Griffin, Appreciate what you've done

752
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 5: for me my career. Forever grateful for.

753
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: Sure, man.

754
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: Shout out to bg wand the coldis Man.

755
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: And that was a magical year for him for sure,

756
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: Like you said, bouncing back from the injury, still killing

757
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: two And then that was what second.

758
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: All starting off for you that year? Yep, yeah, second one, La,

759
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: What was that like? I just want what that feeling like?

760
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: The second one wasn't said the second The second one

761
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: he's been a block. The second one was just you.

762
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 8: Know it was.

763
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 5: It was cool for me because I kind of I

764
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 5: got it late. I was a reserve, reserve, a feeling

765
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 5: for somebody who didn't play in So it wasn't like

766
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 5: I made it, but I made it.

767
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: That counts reserve. It wouldn't have matter if I was picked.

768
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: But still still a great feeling, you know, getting two

769
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: of them, and you know, playing in that game always is.

770
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: It's fun though most definitely I gotta ask you know

771
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that make sure you make a change.

772
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: What's that light?

773
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying going for being an organization?

774
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: You was in Detroit for eight years now, your first

775
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: time switching up do a different city.

776
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 2: How was that like? Especially?

777
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: I know, like people talk about the actual situation of basketball,

778
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: but mentally, what's it like?

779
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: All right? Now? I'm in a different phase of my life.

780
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, getting traded from Detroit was the ship was like

781
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 5: a movie bro Like, it didn't it didn't make sense.

782
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 5: I didn't understand it, none of it. I didn't process

783
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 5: it well, and I don't think I took it very

784
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 5: well because I was kind of blindsided by it and

785
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 5: I didn't know why. I thought the relationship we had

786
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 5: in that city was a lot stronger than what was presented.

787
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 5: But m hm, you know, I forget that this is

788
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 5: also a business.

789
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: You want your yay. I wanted to retire in de Troy. Man,

790
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: that was that was it. That's home. I still got

791
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: a crib there.

792
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 3: Now, don't people say that I grew ugled in.

793
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 5: I grew I grew up in the Troy, so like

794
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 5: Detroit was home for me. Like I just got there,

795
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 5: like when I was twenty three, twenty four experienced life.

796
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 5: I got eighteen years old, so I was still a kid.

797
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 5: So everything I learned was there. But being traded in

798
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 5: synth of Cleveland, I was was weird because Tristan Thompson

799
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 5: was still there, and so I'm like, how does this

800
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 5: work for me?

801
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're good? That would CT thirteen.

802
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't understand what the what the plan was,

803
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: and how this fits, like for the purpose of this trade,

804
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: like how does this work for my career?

805
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 5: And lo and behold to find out that it set

806
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 5: my ship spiraling. My stock just went down, you know,

807
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 5: the appreciation for my game down. So I had to

808
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 5: get to a new mindset of just like how do

809
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 5: I maneuver and how do I shake this? Uh this

810
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 5: narrative that is painted on me right now.

811
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: So not one of my favorite clauds, but like one

812
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: of my things I think the kids need to see.

813
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: When he was giving games to the kids, he was

814
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: just like, look how this game goes. You know, so

815
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: I've been here, I've been here, I've been here. This

816
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: game will take you anywhere, but you got to always

817
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: be ready. That's like a true testament that situation. Like

818
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: now I'm somewhere where I know I'm elite, but I'm

819
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: in a situation that don't make sense. But I still

820
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: got to keep my mental here because I know I'm

821
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: still working. So that was one of the most fire videos.

822
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: I was a max player one hundred million dollars and

823
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: I had to go figure it out again.

824
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a lot of people don't want to

825
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 5: do that though, and with that situation, it wasn't playing

826
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 5: too like a lot of people asked, yo, did you

827
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 5: plan to do that? Not Like I was genuinely like

828
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 5: in the moment with that situation, because I'm seeing the

829
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 5: next generation of what I was and if I can

830
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 5: just shed a little bit of light and show them

831
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 5: there there's so much more to this game than just

832
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 5: scoring thirty points a game. You know, I feel like

833
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 5: I've done my job and it was just one of

834
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 5: those moments I feel like I really it really stuck

835
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 5: what I said because it was personal. Bro, it's just us.

836
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 5: It's just me and my team did I was coaching,

837
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 5: it was just us. There was ten of us, had

838
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 5: us in the circle, and I was talking to them

839
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 5: like it was I let them with y'all. These kids

840
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 5: are fucking fifteen sixteen and they don't know what the

841
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 5: fuck I'm talking about. But the way I explained it

842
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 5: to them, it's like, Oh, there's so much to this

843
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 5: game that that that has to offer. Yeah, you take

844
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 5: this shit seriously.

845
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: Who embraced you down in Cleveland?

846
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: Though?

847
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: Did anybody like make you feel comfortable while you was there?

848
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: Or you just the team didn't?

849
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 5: The team was great, and the organization, Cleveland's organization was great,

850
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 5: Like they definitely knew that.

851
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: I was like.

852
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 5: Uncomfortable and I did. I still wasn't like understanding what

853
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 5: was going on because it was new. I've never been

854
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 5: traded before.

855
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: Bro. I was like, I asked my agent, I said,

856
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: what the fuck do I do? Like I never the

857
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: trade before? Do I like, do I go home?

858
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 3: Or you pack your ship?

859
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 2: He's like, get it? Did you get traded this summer

860
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: or like was it?

861
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: No?

862
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: This is the this is like eight minutes before the

863
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: trade deadline, Like I am. I was at the airport.

864
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: So how did you find out?

865
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 5: I was at the airport about to get up, about

866
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 5: to go on the plane to uh we're going to

867
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 5: okay see in Detroit and we're about to leave and

868
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 5: I'm about to pull up to the airport. My agent

869
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 5: calls me and said what are you doing. I'm like,

870
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 5: I'm about to They're about to get out, Like what's good?

871
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 5: He's like, don't go. I'm looking at the time I

872
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 5: said that ship.

873
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn niggas fucking three fifty seven tradeadline over

874
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes, Like what do you what do.

875
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: You mean, he's like, no, I think they find a deal.

876
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: I think you're going to Cleveland.

877
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: Wow.

878
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: So I said okay, So I said now what he said,

879
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: what you mean? I was like, what do I do? Now?

880
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: He's like, go home. I was like, well then what.

881
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: He's like, pack a bag. He's like, pack it back

882
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: for like a week. I think they got a real trip.

883
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: Pack it back for a week. We'll come back and

884
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: get the rest of your ship. So I'm like, so

885
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: that's it.

886
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 5: I don't get to say by to nobody or that ship.

887
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 5: He's like, nah, bro, that's the business. It's the way

888
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 5: the game. So that after that day is when I

889
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 5: kind of became like cold. Yeah, I became cold to

890
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 5: like this business. Like it's hard for me to like

891
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 5: create friendships in this business. Now how fast and how

892
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 5: easily we're moved around like fucking chess pieces.

893
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: Oh god, that's good. That's good. They embrace you though, cool,

894
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: but they embraced me.

895
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: I love clean.

896
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 5: I had one of my best times in Cleveland, Like

897
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 5: they really really embraced me because I wanted to win,

898
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 5: Like I really wanted to prove people wrong that I

899
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 5: am a winner, Like I'm not just a fucking guy

900
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 5: that averages fifteen or fifteen.

901
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 2: And doesn't win like I wanted to win.

902
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: And that was really where that sparked for me too,

903
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: like I gotta learn I don't win and the rest

904
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: of the ship will come.

905
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, getting traded off.

906
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: Remember when I was in Boston, you know how you

907
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: make it like, oh, you're getting traded I was one

908
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: of them dudes like, yeah, probably your way out, bore,

909
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: And then it was me like talking to.

910
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 9: You, kimde it worse. I'm like, I'm never saying I'm

911
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 9: be about the twelve years.

912
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm about the crowd. That ship feels different, bro.

913
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 2: I only imagine what that was like.

914
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know what it is, but I think

915
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: it's just even worse when they be like, when you're

916
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: about to be on the team flight, are you about

917
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: to get on the.

918
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 3: Is worse?

919
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: Call me the career? Yeah you can do this.

920
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: Once they canceled practice and were met at the plane,

921
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, somebody's getting moved. So I kind of had

922
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: the idea that something was gonna happen, but then it

923
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: was me.

924
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: Damn, you know, he felt he said, Damn, I can't

925
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: say bottle nobody trying to say play.

926
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: They probably wanted the back.

927
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, you the game, like damn, I

928
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: can't piece up my people, Like, no, that's crazy, that's

929
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: some bad business man.

930
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: How did y'all play them after the trade deal? Did

931
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: you play damn Pandemic? Yeah?

932
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: I went to Cleveland and uh, I think I played

933
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: six games and then the pandemicvin oh ship, that's what

934
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: I did' get to see them again. I got traded

935
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: to that year. I got traded back to Atlanta. I

936
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: got back to Atlanta.

937
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: I was in the good seat in the Pandemic and

938
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: it ain't closed. No, he was was a Miami. Oh yeah,

939
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 2: they he.

940
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: Brought that ship up here. You know, it's so crazy,

941
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 3: you know, shout out to you know, COVID. We took

942
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: it serious. This nigga had a party. You family, now

943
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: you know, this nigga has a party. He got niggas

944
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 3: taking tests. You can't come in my house.

945
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 2: Swim.

946
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: This nigga get there just getting everybody sick.

947
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: He can't go here with somebody take their test. Man,

948
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: because I was I was good, he was sure. I

949
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: just woke up. It was time. Everybody coming with their papers.

950
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, swap them again because I don't know.

951
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 2: Make sure I woke up it was done. I couldn't

952
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 2: taste I was done. I called niggas like like niggas

953
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: for a month. You know what's crazy.

954
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: I still think about that time when like everything shut

955
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: down and it's crazy that we blamed to go beare

956
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: for this and he did not get a lead COVID

957
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: but him touching, he definite didn't.

958
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 3: Crazy.

959
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: He didn't help.

960
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: He definitely did.

961
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: I remember that because that too.

962
00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: That for sure.

963
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: They started coughing and rubbing the mics. Then two wow,

964
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: that was one of the craziest moments.

965
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: Like I remember that. It was another game that happened.

966
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: They just like stopped it like one and a half.

967
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: I was like, no, niggas got to go home.

968
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: They stopped our game.

969
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: It was Vince Carter last year, and they was like, yeah,

970
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: the game is about to be over and whatever, like

971
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: they about the end of the league. They was telling

972
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: us doing the game, was like I want to use

973
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: the game, and it was just like everybody's like what

974
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: Vinci Vince when he was playing New York and Vince

975
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,479
Speaker 1: went in played like the last quarter, hit a couple

976
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: of shots, and some ship.

977
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 2: And it's like, I'm done, my dang man, that's crazy crazy.

978
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: It's twenty a year or two.

979
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: It was like twenty two. I don't know what you're crazy.

980
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: He was really shitty too.

981
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 3: I mean years you spending Cleveland?

982
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: Uh, like a year and a half there was La, right, Yeah,

983
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: I ask you.

984
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: I was.

985
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously played some solid cities, but how was

986
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: that going to LA because like, I don't know, the

987
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: Laker fans, that's just crazy.

988
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: Brown was there? Like how was that? Like, I don't know,

989
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: that's a different type of qussion.

990
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean going into a big market for the

991
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: first time was insane, Like they really.

992
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: If you don't got it, if you're not strong, will

993
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: they will.

994
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 5: Talk your ass I of not playing basketball no more now.

995
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 5: So for me, I mean I went there with the

996
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 5: mindset just to try to help the team the best

997
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 5: way I can. Both a D and Lebron were hurt

998
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 5: when I got there, so I was playing under man

999
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 5: at the time too, So I did what we made

1000
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 5: it to the playing game we wanted to play in games.

1001
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: So my experience wasn't bad.

1002
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 5: I mean, looky, I would have stayed if they offered so,

1003
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 5: but they had a different, different plan.

1004
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: So it's what it is. I enjoyed my time. It

1005
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: was great.

1006
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: Great to play with Lebron, great to play with AD.

1007
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: Both great players. Will you could have did more? I

1008
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: got a question, shoot it ad Or and B in

1009
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: what sense gang like?

1010
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: Skill wise? Yeah and B you think he got more

1011
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 2: ad Dron v p B. I mean.

1012
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: Mainly I say that because I played against them both.

1013
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: Bro that your tape, Yeah, I played against them both.

1014
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 1: I mean AD is uber skilled, Like he's super skilled.

1015
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 5: It's not even not even the question, but the ship

1016
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 5: that Joely and B does at seven foot and almost

1017
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 5: three hundred pounds, that has Yeah, it's ridiculous.

1018
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: Bro, do with that.

1019
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: Not only is he beating you with guard moves, he's

1020
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: gonna catch you in the paint too and body.

1021
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a D. If he catches that on the.

1022
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: Pick and roller, the pop picking pop to the elbow,

1023
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: he's dangerous. I feel like with him beat there's just

1024
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: so much more ship that you.

1025
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: Throw at you. I think in B Iso game is

1026
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: better than ADH for sure.

1027
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: I think a D he uses quickness and his athletic

1028
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: ability more right, Joel and B, you can really just

1029
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: thrown the ball like watch out.

1030
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, trust me, I reguarded that nigga in practice every day.

1031
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 5: I was a tout on me for you was just

1032
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 5: trying to ship.

1033
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:10,959
Speaker 2: Sure.

1034
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: I just asked you that, bro, because just listening to

1035
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: your story, I know a little bit about you. But

1036
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: like over the conversation asking this questions, you played with

1037
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: a lot of the best big man in like our

1038
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: era of basketball, like Floyd Griffin, all them niggas is crazy.

1039
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: That is crazy. Think about it.

1040
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: Who would you say is an underrated like Big D

1041
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: don't get a lot of recognition that you were probably

1042
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: like he cold if y'all ain't really tapped in.

1043
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 2: Or he's good. I don't say.

1044
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 3: I got.

1045
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 2: Underrated big I think it's nice that I don't think

1046
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: it a lot of like boot play, Yeah, but I

1047
00:49:52,760 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 2: knew you play. I'm like, yeah, who's your bucket? Yeah? Defense,

1048
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: but that's not what they about the same.

1049
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: Level of defending exactly. He's not getting the stops, bro

1050
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: De ro stops. I never once said I was the

1051
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: best defender.

1052
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: I compete. I never was like that.

1053
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: That's what the sad thing saying I compete.

1054
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: I compete, tried defended ski the ball.

1055
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: Well, He's one of the first man I say that, Like,

1056
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: I want to ask both of you this. Obviously know

1057
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: you coaches, Tige hoaching ar Madel for Shure. How was

1058
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: it like talking to kids about basketball, like trying to

1059
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: trailer because y'all played at such a high level. Obviously

1060
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: y'all greater, which I both did. How was it translating

1061
00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: to the kids?

1062
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: Is like it seemed like kids now, I just like

1063
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 2: they don't give a damn about anybody. Resume They like

1064
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: we all we all? How's it hard? Like that's exactly

1065
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 2: what it is.

1066
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: How is it like trying to get through to them?

1067
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: You got to try to relate to them in their way.

1068
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: You can't talk to them like, yo, you need to

1069
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: do this or that's how you do it? Like you

1070
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: gotta shoot the ship with them, ask them what they

1071
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: fuck with? What you enjoy, like, oh, you like playing

1072
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: a game? What game you play? And you slipping a

1073
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: few conversations like yo, like what you think about this?

1074
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: What you see when you on the on the floor?

1075
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: How do you make your next guy better? But I

1076
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: think it's the little things with this generation that's gonna

1077
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: be beneficial. Just kind of really trying to understand them. Yeah,

1078
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: I went throughout with like you just gotta kind of

1079
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: encourage this group. Like I know, I grew up my

1080
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: coaches always like yo, you gotta do this relate to

1081
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: their better nature. So now you gotta They so used

1082
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: to everybody kind of encouraging them or babying them, like right, spoony,

1083
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 1: So everybody more used to being catered to and everybody

1084
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: getting stroke like you're gonna be great. You're gonna be great.

1085
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: You're gonna be great, And I think you got to

1086
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: kind of play into that. You still give them real game,

1087
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: like he ain't gonna be that easy, like you gotta

1088
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: do it this way, this way, But you also got

1089
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: to encourage them because they don't hear too many negatives

1090
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: no more like if you hear a negative, now it's

1091
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: like he don't like me, he don't like Yeah, and

1092
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: now kids don't have to fight. I'm ain't gonna say

1093
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: they don't. But like you can transfer now if you

1094
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: don't like that, coach, bro, Like that's a great question.

1095
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: Like if being the number one player in your class

1096
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: and it's n I L money, like what you think

1097
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: you would have got, like, man, you probably definitely Man,

1098
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: what I have let that out mane playing the nation.

1099
00:52:54,560 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: Shoot got yeah, a couple of three like that you

1100
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 2: would have got paid? What that would have changed?

1101
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: Seven blocks? The beauty shot.

1102
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: To be most of the night, Like what that would

1103
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: have changed your mindset? Though? Like you knew you were

1104
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: going one and done.

1105
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: But like if you got a n I l money

1106
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: and you don't want to play, like I'm gonna give

1107
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: you seven million dollars, you think your mindset would have changed?

1108
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I would have.

1109
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I already told you, Like I said before, I

1110
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 5: wouldn't wanted to stand anyways.

1111
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: And why don't you wanted the college experience?

1112
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: Or partly partially because I went to all boys school.

1113
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 5: I feel strong enough and I feel like I didn't

1114
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 5: really experience, like I feel like shot shout the same time.

1115
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 3: Shout and Jason t them Tom Yeah, he went to

1116
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: all boys school to.

1117
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: Ship he feels my fans though. So the park, did

1118
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: you have anybody come orform that just cool because they

1119
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: had sexy.

1120
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good and.

1121
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: It was represented that that.

1122
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 3: Oh I I hope that's not true, but that is

1123
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 3: nasty to that brow I really crazy.

1124
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: She opened it up. So John the same was no,

1125
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: that's listen, man. We said it to me, said tail poms,

1126
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: but you got caramel.

1127
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: Nig was the problem, and I said there by.

1128
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: I didn't need it, but that's damn y'all don't get

1129
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: a prom and we got suter Bro.

1130
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 2: I was always playing here you go to it.

1131
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: Dam I couldn't imagine going to all boys school. I

1132
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: mean it was awful, man, It wasn't off. It wasn't

1133
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: as bad you think it was. I mean I lived

1134
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: in Connecticut too, so I got to go home and

1135
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: ship it was.

1136
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't bad.

1137
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 1: You was locked in, though, yeah, I mean probably be

1138
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: more locked in on your education in sports.

1139
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, shout to Jerry Quinn.

1140
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,479
Speaker 3: That was that another decision from your mom and your sister,

1141
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 3: no question.

1142
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

1143
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 5: I played one season at Capitol prepping Harford, and it

1144
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 5: was like playing against children. So after that season, my

1145
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 5: mom was like, yeah, we gotta go somewhere else, so

1146
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 5: shut up.

1147
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 3: She didn't give you.

1148
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 2: Much of a choice.

1149
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 5: You visited a couple of schools, went to South Kent,

1150
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 5: went to over him in Munson, and then the same time,

1151
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 5: it's more.

1152
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 3: Damn, your mom had a vision.

1153
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 5: Brom didn't really know much about basketball, which which is

1154
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 5: the crazy part. I go to really start learning basketball

1155
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 5: till I got the same time with more.

1156
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: Okay, how taught were you like in seventh eighth grade?

1157
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: Probably damn? So were you at your Grossbert? I don't

1158
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: even think I did. I think I was just big

1159
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: always Bro's crazy.

1160
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 3: I mean high school, that's one of your numbers. Was crazy.

1161
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 3: That's when I found out about you. Been since niggas

1162
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 3: seven blocks, Bro. I heard, always watched rivals, was dribbling

1163
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 3: and ship though Yeah, I remember, I'm like this nigga here,

1164
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: you want that motherfucker big motherfucking mother put on the college.

1165
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: That shot.

1166
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 3: Du that shot you you was you was skinny Ship.

1167
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: He was like handling the ship video you you crossing

1168
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: niggas and Ship. I'm like, shot the pans.

1169
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 3: I was like, so you started off as a guard

1170
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 3: or they always I was always.

1171
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: I was always taught to play every if you watch

1172
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: my video or somebody school, always say I want to

1173
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: be able to do everything.

1174
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: I never want to limit.

1175
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 5: Myself, So I would always play that way. Bring the

1176
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 5: ball past shoot. I love passing, like getting my teammate talking.

1177
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: So I need to watch what you.

1178
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 3: Think the best part of your game is though I

1179
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 3: know you the greatest free batter all the time. That's

1180
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 3: what you said.

1181
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 2: Passion, Yeah, definitely good passion for sure.

1182
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: The underrated part of your game that I think is

1183
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: your ability to steal the ball from guards, Like if

1184
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: you watch, like obviously I'm a basketball head, he will

1185
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: pick point guards pockets all the time, like they try

1186
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: to crossing. I was like a thing I'm from though,

1187
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: like in Connecticut, Like if you steal the boss someone's

1188
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: second dunk on damn.

1189
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like for me, like I always gotta I gotta

1190
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 3: throw out of that. Yeah, all the people to pick

1191
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: everybody and then he.

1192
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: Get on a fast break, punch that ship, like get dribbled,

1193
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: like if you run out and he's gonna throw it behind.

1194
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: His back, like I guarantee it. So how like Luis

1195
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: to find it?

1196
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: You on a fast break throwing it behind your back,

1197
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: going down, punching that bitch.

1198
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, did you play with any other pros

1199
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 3: in high school?

1200
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: Against against damn it Lee? Okay, that's h steph Yeah,

1201
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: shot the name Lee?

1202
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: Okay, damn Who was the hardest match up in high

1203
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 3: school that you remember?

1204
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: High school? Probably Joe yeah, school.

1205
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,959
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't playt nobody.

1206
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: Isaiah Austin was up.

1207
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: It would be as was hard Jeff Baylor, Yeah, Aaron

1208
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon played against him too.

1209
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: P J, p J. What's broke from?

1210
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 4: Uh?

1211
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 2: Harrison played against him? C J Fair played against him.

1212
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 3: Ja he was wrong high school?

1213
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: Well what was that like? Because he was? I tried

1214
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: to kill him everything myself. He was bigger than smoke.

1215
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was bigger than him.

1216
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: Put your average against Netherlands. You look, that's bro real

1217
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: time figure out.

1218
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: It was like that though he was. I take you

1219
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: though he was he was strong.

1220
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's too strong. This nigga is big as ship.

1221
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: Pull was like you walked in here.

1222
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 4: I played against a bunch of time. Like we got

1223
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 4: heard that comment he made he walked here, nigga, Look.

1224
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: My god, there's my hand on the ceiling the staircase.

1225
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: We all normal, trapped down here, the real trap for show.

1226
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: Can't drop the lower d C.

1227
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: Show man, Like you said, you're thirteen man with Philly

1228
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: Man and I said, I have up and down year,

1229
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: especially with injuries.

1230
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: Man, But how was it so far?

1231
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: Man?

1232
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: How you feeling out the city.

1233
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: I've been in phil Yeah, put in Philly back from

1234
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: after I went to Chicago. Before I went to Chicago,

1235
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: excuse me got traded in that Ben Simmons trade to Brooklyn.

1236
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: Fame want to let you go that time? No, if

1237
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 2: you're caught. Yeah, the city was mad about that.

1238
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 3: Yeah about that.

1239
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 2: But being back now, it's pretty It's dope. Man.

1240
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 5: I just think injuries are are crutch right now. You

1241
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 5: can't escape it between myself, pg uh Joelle obviously being

1242
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 5: out for another seven to ten days, Jared being out

1243
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 5: for the season.

1244
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: That boy is good. He was hoping for he could

1245
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: play basketball. He's good.

1246
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 3: Can you speaking on how good is bro?

1247
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on the tires Max Travers, he's been.

1248
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 3: I love ty.

1249
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 5: I got to see Tyres when he got drafted because obviously,

1250
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 5: like I said, I played with Philly and just seeing

1251
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 5: his growth as a player and as a as a

1252
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 5: point guard.

1253
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm truly a fan of what he's done.

1254
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 3: He's of course all y'all work hard, but does he

1255
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 3: have like a different type of grind than everybody else.

1256
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: He has an incredible work ethic that he works hard

1257
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: like he's in the gym.

1258
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 5: For everybody else, he's last to leave shows up hours

1259
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 5: before the game to get his work done.

1260
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: So he puts the work in to be great. I

1261
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: love this game.

1262
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: You think like you played with a lot of point guards.

1263
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: We talked about you playing with bigs. Where would you

1264
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: rank him as like point guards you play with like

1265
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: I think Brandon Jenes is code and all that, But

1266
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: where would you put Tyres? He's in the top ten

1267
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: for sure? Damn ten, he's probably ten. Hell yeah, that's

1268
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: one of the Steph Curry.

1269
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: As you asked questions.

1270
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 3: I think.

1271
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 2: He started off with Chauncy Bill. We're at for right now. Uh,

1272
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: he gotta be at the.

1273
01:01:50,040 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 10: Johnson here trying to get the memory going that. Damn

1274
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 10: the we played with all the best person n be

1275
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 10: a bro.

1276
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: He has this real ship with brin Kyrie, Change cars

1277
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: Are and Joel. Where you put him at your yeah,

1278
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: point guard? I think he's a combo guard though him

1279
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: of all time though that's a five twenty argument. The

1280
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: third slot we're still back and forth between him.

1281
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: And the Way League.

1282
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 3: We don't want to put that on.

1283
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're gonna put it. You don't want to be

1284
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 8: in this listen, wait enough ship. We got a lot

1285
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 8: more questions for you.

1286
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: But we're gonna wait. You know what I'm saying, We

1287
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: do this another time. We like you said, you still

1288
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: current players. We won't put no smod put in those situations. Man,

1289
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: appreciate that now for sure. But listen, man, we appreciate

1290
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: you sliding on this.

1291
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: Man.

1292
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: Listen man, or which it helps your team. Man, have

1293
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: a great rest of your year. Man, keep killing. We

1294
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: appreciate you sliding on it. Yes, sorry late.

1295
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 3: That time again because niggas got girls and ship.

1296
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: What time is it? What time is it? The realm session?

1297
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 2: Every next time little father twittering? For sure, the volume