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Speaker 1: on one. Blue was at the number one, Christopher writes,

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Speaker 1: And uh, a matter of fact, I got this pin

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Speaker 1: because this is what happened in life, Folks. How many

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Speaker 1: times do we walk away with someone's pin and lighter

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Speaker 1: Grizzly Peak Farms dot com. And he's now what I

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Speaker 1: Dave and I were texting, and I want you to

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Big Steve Harris, and not only the stories,

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Speaker 1: this book called What Home Before Daylight? My Life on

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Speaker 1: Steve Parrish was never wanted to walk the straight and narrow,

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Speaker 1: the Dad's historical run, there was parties of biblical, proportional

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Speaker 1: Grateful Dead's Wild run has never been so revealing folks

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Speaker 1: go by this book and get his cannabis. As he

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Speaker 1: partnered with Grizzly Peak Farms recently, he decided to team

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Speaker 1: They took the seeds and crossed them with gelato and

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Speaker 1: Big Steve's Egyptian cush, a strain that honors the grateful

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Speaker 1: Grizzly Peak Official and Big Steve Parish. Those websites are

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Speaker 1: that now, Big Steve. We're talking before we went to

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Speaker 1: was pretty cool. There was no security on plane, so

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00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: we could bring a lot of stuff with us, but

428
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 1: we had a lot of tricks. And the thing is this,

429
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: So when you start and you like that you're getting busted.

430
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: Then when you make it, when you're playing Madison Square Garden,

431
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: when you're the top of the fucking pile, guess what

432
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: you get Police escorts from the police in the vans

433
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: and themos and now police are guarding us for keeping

434
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: other blue way. I would tell people I'm bringing the

435
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: dope for the conscience, and it was funny. That's the

436
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: way life works, man, You know, when you need them there,

437
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: it's all different. But anyway, one time we were on

438
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: the road with the Jerry Garcia band and we were

439
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: in New York City at a club called the bottom Line,

440
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: and that night John Lennon came to the show. It

441
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: was a great night. Bernard Purdy, this incredible drummer, sat in.

442
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: Bill Kreuzman was playing drums and we had a great night.

443
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: And so his friend of mine was what you'd call

444
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: a slightly connected mafio so kid who hung around the

445
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 1: Grateful Dead, and he was known pot dealer. Okay, and

446
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: so he says, hey, I'll give you guys me a

447
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: kid who was my partner working with me in the

448
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: band as another roadie, and so he said, I'll give

449
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,959
Speaker 1: you guys a ride up to the hotel we were

450
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: staying up at the Risk. It was actually in the

451
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: bar oh in those days up on Central Park. So

452
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, we're gonna we had it. You know,

453
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: we were gonna send a limo back for us. We said, okay,

454
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: we'll ride with him. I told road manager, Okay, gonna

455
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: meet you up at the hotel. We're fine. So we

456
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: did in the car and it was a Chrysler imperiod.

457
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: I'll never forget this, and it's four o'clock in the

458
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: morning in New York City and he had a big

459
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: piece of hash in his pocket up here a giant

460
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 1: hunka hash Terry did and he also we were smoking

461
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: this great weed, big fat bomber joints and Kid it

462
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: was in the back seat and he had picked up

463
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: a gall at the show and she was in the

464
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: back seat with him, and we had I had announced

465
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: of tiewed in my pocket. It was Winner and we

466
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: had the old names like that, did just take you back?

467
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: And Kid had announced tie we people had given us

468
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: at the show. Here we are going uptown. And then

469
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: we stopped at a red light and a police car

470
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: was parked on the side, and I'll never forget this

471
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: red haired cop was fast asleep with his head against

472
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: the window, and he opened one eye and he looked

473
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: at the car, and he jumped up and he starts

474
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: grabbing his partner and pointing at the car. And I'm

475
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: going to Terry. You know, when your kid on the road,

476
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: you don't look at cops and you see them. So

477
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: I was saying, I said, Terry, what the fun is

478
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: going on? Why is that cop doing that? Man something?

479
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: It's this car hot? What's going on here? Who did something? Nothing?

480
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: What's going on? As soon as the light change, we

481
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: pull over, they jam us over to the curve. Man

482
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: and a car, an unmarked car. Four cops come out

483
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: with guns, man right on her face, and they keep

484
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: us there for a while and go, holy sh it,

485
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: this is bad. We're going to jail. And that goes

486
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: and so uh they get on a loudspeaker and they say,

487
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: don't get out of the car. This car meets the

488
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: description of a car used in an armed robbery in

489
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: Brooklyn where a police officer was killed. Stay in the car. Ship,

490
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: holy ship. Here we are coming back from work, you know,

491
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: and we're tired. And so now they seal off the

492
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: streets both ways and now big brass comes you see.

493
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: Fucking guys was all. They were lieutenants and all these

494
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: big shots, and they had ambulances and patty wagons and

495
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: they're still waiting, and they said, don't get out of

496
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: the car. We're waiting for a girl. If they need

497
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: a female officer to search the girl. Right anyway, Then

498
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: this red headed cop, he's shaking like a leaf and

499
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: he puts I'm in the shotgun seat, and he puts

500
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: the gun right to my face. Man, he's shaking like this,

501
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: and I thought he was just gonna go off by accident.

502
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: I put my hands up. I said, I got no guns, man,

503
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't have a gun. And he says, come on

504
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: out of the car. He says, okay, uh, what were

505
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: you doing? I tell him we're playing with the Jerry

506
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: Garcia band down here at the bottom line. And they

507
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: asked me, They said, hey, who's the owner of the club.

508
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 1: And I happened to know the guy's name. I said

509
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: stand Sadowski, and he said, you're right, he's right that's right,

510
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: because it was their beat, and so now validation. They

511
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: start searching me and they do a pat and he

512
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: stick his hands and he grabs that ounce at tiweed

513
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: and I go, oh, that's it. He goes, he sticks

514
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: it right back in. He was looking for a fucking weapon.

515
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: He's pa my weapon. Pat very different than a gun exactly.

516
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: And then they started looking around where I was sitting,

517
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: under the seat and in the glove box and around,

518
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: and he do the same to Terry. They got him out,

519
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: They got kid out, You got the girl out. Their

520
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: searches over, they go over everything, man, and they find

521
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: the weed and they just keep putting it back in

522
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: our pockets. Right then the cop comes over to me

523
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: and he goes, you know what, you guys better watch out.

524
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: We're gonna let you go, and you're gonna drive up

525
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: town and you better not smoke anymore weed because you're

526
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: gonna get busted. And at that time, the Rockefeller Law

527
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: had just come in, so anything over an ounce you

528
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: had to do time mandatory in New York State. We

529
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: knew that the Rockefeller Law. So he let us go

530
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: and they start. Everything starts leaving the helicopters, the fucking ambulances,

531
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: the Patty wagon. Everything goes away, and we'd start driving

532
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: up town and Terry he's like a zombie. I go,

533
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: what the funk, Terry, what are you doing? He goes,

534
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: they never looked in the trunk. He says, they never

535
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: look in the trunk. Said, what the funx in the trunk? Man?

536
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: He had twenty eight pounds of weed in duffel bag

537
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: in the fucking trump Man. How are they gonna not

538
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: look at that and say something? Man, twenty eight pounds

539
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: in a big fat duffel bag, like you keep your

540
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: Little League balls and bats. And I said, holy sh it,

541
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: somebody up there likes us tonight. Man. It was just

542
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: one of those things. You know. I wonder why he's

543
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: sitting there like that right like, oh God, now you're going,

544
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: holy ship. How are we gonna explain that one? You know?

545
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: And then you know, stuff like that would happen on

546
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: the road because the road was dangerous. Man, It was

547
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: dangerous if you didn't have your smarts on. Man. When

548
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: my kid it still is though, you know what I mean?

549
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: You kids asked me when like his son goes out

550
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 1: travels with the band, I said, first thing you do

551
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: is check everywhere you go. Find out what the marijuana

552
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: laws are, find out how they are about camping. Who

553
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: has a card on him? We gotta get some cards

554
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: in this bus. We gotta get us, you know, if

555
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: it happens, this is what we gotta have on the bus.

556
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: You gotta have a medical car. Hard like simple stupid things.

557
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: There's tricks of the game nowadays, at least to be like, okay,

558
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: how many cards can we have to have this much

559
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: weed on us? Like the thoughts like that, and when

560
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: we go over state, as long as we have a

561
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: card and this day we can take this much with us.

562
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: We can't take anything with us in that state even

563
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: with a card like those are those you know. It

564
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: was always celebrities would come to the shows and they

565
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: love to smoke weed with us. You know, you name

566
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: it down here. We had Dennis Hopper, Paul Newman would

567
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: come to shows because he had a racing team with

568
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: our stickers all over his cars. Man, there's so many

569
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: people I could talk to you about. Frank Sinatra. I

570
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: met him with Jerry one night. We had the greatest

571
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: time with that guy. Man, And it was just crazy

572
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: because you guys just took over the country being especially

573
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: the band being a bay Area and it's funny for

574
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: me being bay Area. I feel like, you know, there's

575
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: times in my life where I feel like I literally

576
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: felt like a rock and roll band member of like,

577
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: because I live all those hate Nashville. I've done all

578
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: those spots. I bought acid on those fucking corners. Literally

579
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: I grew up that way, you know what I mean.

580
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: I grew up what is seven eight two? But you

581
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: know that you guys are doing that already. But that

582
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: ship was still all around all right. It was the

583
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: greatest place. It's still around right now. And hate Nashbury folks,

584
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: go over there right now, I mean ship, who we kidding?

585
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: We could probably find it now. Every day we'd go

586
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: up to Golden Gate Park and get us there. That

587
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: was what everybody did, you know, and you met there

588
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: and and it was a trip to just go around

589
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: a beautiful park like that, I mean, and all the

590
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Bill Graham things, you guys, the best test. Bill would

591
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: walk around with the clipboard, even though he would take

592
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: it off. He'd take the drugs too, but he always

593
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: was in charge kind of thing, and we really missed

594
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: him to this day. Man, what a great guy, but

595
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: he was open to take everything. He would take acid

596
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: with us. And when you work for the Grateful Jed,

597
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: you had able to handle that. You had to be

598
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: able to handle that. And when you say take it like,

599
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: because I think of that like back when when I'm

600
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: doing the show or something like, people would dosh you

601
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: if you didn't take it yourself. That's what I mean that.

602
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: And it was that pure pressure. That was real kind

603
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: of pure pressure around back then. Well that's why I

604
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: got to work really hands on with pig Pan a

605
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: lot too, because he like to drink and nobody else

606
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: did him and Janice they would drink Southern Comfort and

607
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: rainy or ale. Why because everybody hated the taste of

608
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: those things and nobody else was drinking, so they would

609
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: drink all the Southern comfort and get sucked up. And

610
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: people thought that LSD was a cure for alcoholism, even

611
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: though they were at alcoholics they so everybody was always

612
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: trying to dose them and they hated. They both did

613
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: not like to take acid. So I promised Pigott I

614
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: would never dose him. So I got to take care

615
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: of his gear. And he was a great guy and

616
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: loved lived the blues life. And was the center of

617
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: the band musically in so many ways. But when you

618
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: talk about the LSD experience with playing music in those days,

619
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: we had nothing but Strobe tuners, and it was the

620
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: guys couldn't tune. They would just see these lights. We

621
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: go bing bing bing bing bing. Had to tune them

622
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: up and they would get hung up on it and

623
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: nobody was in tune. They didn't like playing it those

624
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: because they were never because it was crazy and sucking

625
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: tweak you. I could see you took me there like

626
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: I could imagine party. Did you know? We didn't know

627
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: the dose we were taking. Joe was so powerful and

628
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: we were doing things to ourselves. If you were fairly

629
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: saying individual, you were holding on for dear life sometimes.

630
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: But there were nuts around there, and we had friends

631
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: coming back from Vietnam and they were taking acid and

632
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: you got to just realize something. They needed to be

633
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 1: talked to for a minute. Man, they were and they

634
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: did it. But if a girl hugged him or a

635
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: guy hugged him, even they would calm out. It was amazing.

636
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: Love always, Love always wins Joe, It fucking always did.

637
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: I always agree with that. I remember one time getting

638
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: stopped in Albany, New York, and I had a pound

639
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: of weed in my quarter pound of weed Colombia in

640
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: my suitcase. It was on road stop, and so the

641
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: cops take me in. And then it was a Sunday

642
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: they called. The judge comes in and he says to me,

643
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: what being grateful? Danny goes grateful Dad, My daughter will

644
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: kill me if I says, give me a hundred bucks

645
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: and get out of here. A hundred bucks for a

646
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: quarter pounds of weed. And here's somebody has stuck a

647
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: cocaine envelope in my pocket and I don't and then

648
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: somebody and I don't know how it got there, and

649
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: and the pocket was already buttoned again. And when you

650
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: get stopped in New Jersey, Oh that was the worst. Right.

651
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: One night, we're driving in the truck and Johnny Hagen,

652
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: he was on the crew with us, and Meet and

653
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: him and Ram brought it in his truck. And Hagen

654
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: he was a crazy guy man, and he his his

655
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: watch stop right, So he throws the fucking watch out

656
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: the window on the Jersey Turnpike and where does it land?

657
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: Right on a cops windshield. Man, Bam, we hit his car.

658
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: He pulls us over and finds a weed. We had wet.

659
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to put it away and it was I

660
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: was too slow. He caught us, and so they take

661
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: us in. They hang us up from poles in the

662
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: fucking barracks where they stayed and put like meat. They

663
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: hung us up, and they were showing all the cops

664
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: as they changed, uh schedule, They go, hey, look look

665
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: what we caught. These grateful dead. These guys are. That's

666
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: the grateful dead hanging out. Love it, man, They loved

667
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: it out here exactly, and they would tease you like that,

668
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, but you learned pretty quick to stay out

669
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: of their way, and a lot of good things happened

670
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: at times, uh where on the road. Being high actually

671
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: worked for your advantage. What do you mean. I mean

672
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: that when you were free and you were on acid. Right, So,

673
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: you get stopped sometimes and you're talking to a cop,

674
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: you could get on top of them. I could look

675
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: in his eyes and figure him out right away. That

676
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: was something the pranksters taught us. When you get stopped. Now,

677
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: they were in a psychedelic bus going across America in

678
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: the early sixties, taking acid. And it's so funny because

679
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm there where I I see what you mean. Can

680
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: I've taken enough? And for those who do didn't, you're

681
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: probably right there with us. For those that can't follow along,

682
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: welly god bless you, you you just haven't taken enough. And

683
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: you figure out where the guy's at. There's usually some

684
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: connection football, military, something, And you know what's funny, you

685
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: can turn that in life now, even because I've used

686
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: those psychedelic terms of using life got when I'm talking

687
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: to somebody almost like find my relationship with your figure

688
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: it out. But when you're high like that, it's just

689
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: all these things per exactly. And you know, they really

690
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: knew that a pot smoker is not going to kick

691
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: the windows out of the car. It just didn't happen.

692
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: But guys that were drunk, oh yeah, that was theirs

693
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: that used to get away with a lot of stuff

694
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: because okay, you guys are sitting there drinkers and yeah,

695
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: but you know, like, for instance, when we went to

696
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: New Orleans, was a famous bust in sixty nine and

697
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: that was Jim Garrison, the guy who was famous in

698
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: the Kennedy movie UH for bringing h Oswald to trial.

699
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: Well he was dead, but bringing the whole thing to trial.

700
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: But anyway, he did not want New Orleans to turn

701
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: into hate Ashbury, and so he was down on Weed,

702
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: the airplane, Warren the band. You're coming to the warehouse,

703
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna bust you now. Pig Pen, who always stayed

704
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: in touch with all the people that worked in the hotel.

705
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: He would share a bottle of liquor with them or something.

706
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: They liked him, so they would always tell us, tip

707
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: us off, Well, they've been snooping around, they're looking. They're

708
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: waiting for you guys tonight. So we'd clean up. But

709
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: in those days Mickey had Mickey hard. He had four

710
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: roaches in his pocket of a jacket. Four roaches. And boy,

711
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: usually have seen the cop holding everybody chained up. Do

712
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: you see that? He look at that we got him.

713
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: He was so happy because it was a felony, a

714
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: fucking felony. Four roaches. Man. Uh, we gotta draw with

715
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: Drew Straws and Jackson and Alsley and Ramrod end up

716
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: with short stores. They had to get suits. What do

717
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: you call a roady with a suit? Defended? Defended? And

718
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: that's the only time we put suits on and ties.

719
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: And so anyway, those guys had to go back and

720
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: go for trial. But we had some great lawyers in

721
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: San Francisco who knew how to fix it up. In

722
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Oh that's always nice. Stepanion and Ko Hallin

723
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: and these guys went to bat for us when the

724
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: house got busted. It and they hate uh, you know,

725
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: because it was a big deal. A pound of weed

726
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: that was the end of the world. You know. Is

727
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: it fair to say, I'm gonna make a statement about

728
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: the Grateful Dead that I think is a fair statement.

729
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: Steve Dave chime in too, But I don't know. I'm

730
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: just making this analogy that I forcing. Is it a

731
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: fair statement to say that the Grateful Dead was probably

732
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: the first band that went out and toured and was

733
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: viciously known for the cannabis smoking Henceton nowadays snoop dog

734
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: fucking era of the you know, pick the next rapper

735
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: two But you know what I mean. Whoever, But is

736
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: it fair to say possibly that the Grateful Dead was

737
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: possibly the first band to tour that was notoriously known.

738
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: This is called drugs all over over the place, let

739
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: alone cannabis. But I mean because Grateful Dead was known

740
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: in my head as everything. When I think of the

741
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 1: Grateful Dead. I'm thinking acid coke and I'm going to concert.

742
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm doing it all right, because why because we're I

743
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: feel like we're all doing it, meaning the band's doing it.

744
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: I'm doing it at a Grateful Dead part concert. So

745
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: when you go to a hip hop hunter and that

746
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: you're smoking, I'm smoking weed. He's smoking weed. So I

747
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: had that same feel when I think about going to

748
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: Grateful Dead. Right, isn't it fair to say they were

749
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: the first band to have to deal with the troubles

750
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: of dealing with touring? Legend has a four twenty is originated?

751
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: It started warehouse? You know, have you heard I've heard

752
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: of four twenty being started from some gentlemens that were

753
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: at a school and this and that and the warehouse

754
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: and the day. Please tell Okay, then you guys tell

755
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: the whole story. That the legitimate story that I've heard,

756
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: which is funnier that be real of all people shout

757
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: out to be real, who's on power? When I was

758
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: six with us at the time, many moons ago, this

759
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: is the story that I remember from him. And then

760
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: I remember Mark Washerman many years later refreshing my memory

761
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: of the same story. So that's why when you say,

762
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: how do you hear the story? Joe, that's where I

763
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: came up from this story, you guys, it's not like, oh,

764
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: I just pulled it out of my ass and the

765
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: I've heard it from a few other people. But these

766
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: are two strong people, and apparently this is the man

767
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: that was there. Also, there was a police code in

768
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: Marine County that was possession of marijuana for a while.

769
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 1: They changed it long ago. But it's amazing how once

770
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: you everybody in the world focuses on that, it becomes

771
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: a thing, you know, and it's a good thing. It's

772
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: a real good thing. It also happens to be Ramrod's birthday,

773
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: and another nefarious character from history who led Germany in

774
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: the third in the thirties and forties. I want to

775
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: mention his name, but he was born that day too,

776
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: But we don't celebrate that. We never break the weed,

777
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: and the weed is the best thing. Joe. On the road,

778
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: I watched my brothers. They're all dead now, they're all

779
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: most of them are fucking dead. It's so dangerous. I'm

780
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: talking about the Roadio. Most of the band still a

781
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: lot EXCEP Jared and a couple of the other guys.

782
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: All the piano players died. But it's a dangerous world.

783
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: And the thing is about pot. It ain't a gateway drug.

784
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 1: It keeps you off all that ship man. The guys

785
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: who stuck with weed didn't end up overdosing on fucking heroin,

786
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: didn't fucking end up ruining their lives with blow or

787
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: pills or fucking you know, opiates. Because this stuff is

788
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: the most amazing gift ever to us on this planet.

789
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: And people don't understand, you know, if you you know,

790
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: I argue with people about they talk about the Bible

791
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: and where the land of Canyon that's on cannabis, that

792
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: it was the best cannabis in the world. When we

793
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: went to Egypt, I want to tell you something. Jerry

794
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: and I and ken Ksie, we were at the pyramids

795
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: all that day. We played, were the only band ever

796
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: play in front of the Great Pyramid Man, and we

797
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: had to go through a lot of hoops. But it

798
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: was a magic time where Jimmy Carter was in peace

799
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: talks with the Arabs and the Jews and they fucking

800
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: made an opening of peace and so we were able

801
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: to go there to the pyramids. They let us go.

802
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: We had one of the seven Wonders of the world,

803
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: the world only that one of the one sevens I mean.

804
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: So we went over to the Keezy ken Kezi, myself

805
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: and Jerry went over to the Cairo Museum right and

806
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: they before we left the States, they taught us. They

807
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: made us go see the King tut exhibit where you

808
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: saw all his gold. And I've seen the one in

809
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: San Jose. I've been that one, you know, at the

810
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: museum down there. At my point is I love that stuff.

811
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: I went to the one in the stuff that he

812
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: was buried with, this incredible gold sarcophagus, all this beautiful

813
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: chariots and things, but still left in the museum in

814
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: Cairo was everyday stuff. So we're over there looking through it.

815
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: Here's Jerry on my side, can't KESI over here and

816
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking. I say, guys, look a basket full of

817
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: cannabis sativa seeds. I said, there's a proof right there.

818
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: Pharaoh wasn't going to the next world without his cannabis. Man.

819
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 1: And it's amazing. And so I we had the driver,

820
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: this guy will Hob He allowed me everywhere. He was great.

821
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: Whatever we needed in Cairo, he would go get for me.

822
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: I said, what hab come here? We brought weed there

823
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: with us, right, and he'd never They all smoked hash.

824
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: They all had the best hash ever, hash from the

825
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: Beka Valley and from Egypt and all that area. It

826
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: was the strongest, best. The grateful dead wrote songs about it,

827
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: brown eyed women and red grenadine and uh hash was clean.

828
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing. And so we smoked gold Lebanese

829
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: and red Lebanese hash all the time. And when he

830
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: were there, everybody was offering you beautiful hash. But we

831
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: had weed. We had to go. We couldn't go anywhere

832
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: without weeds. So we figured out a way to get

833
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: it there. And so I told Ahab to joint. I said,

834
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: we Hoab, this is marijuana. You go and find me some.

835
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: He said, Mr Steve, I have never seen this. He's

836
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: seen hash his whole wife. I said, if they're growing hash,

837
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: if they've got hash, they got pots somewhere. And I said,

838
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm just and you can't get this without that. And

839
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: he says he he said to me, it's good for sex.

840
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: I said, the best for sex, the best thing in

841
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: the world. WB. He takes off in his taxi. I

842
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: don't see him for two days. He comes back with

843
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: a little box, a wooden box full of seeds. And

844
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't even think he gave we've exchanged money or anything.

845
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 1: He gave it to me, stashed it. We brought it home,

846
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: and we kept it alive with our friends. We were

847
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: on the road all the time. So I gave those

848
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: seeds to our trusted buddies who grew in Mendocino and

849
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: up in Sonoma Hills, and real growers who knew what

850
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: they were doing. And so every few years we made

851
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: more seeds, and so when I met Grizzly Peak, I

852
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: brought those out. This was our sacred stats, because if

853
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: you let in those days, if the powers that be,

854
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: the FEDS, we all were working on those counties that

855
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, and they would jump in on helicopters

856
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: with guns or whatever and take the weed. So we

857
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: kept it quiet because once you got a name for restrain,

858
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 1: they wanted to eradicate it. They did it on purpose.

859
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: That's what happened to the weed. It actually is dumbed

860
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: down a little bit by mixing it out of Amsterdam.

861
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: They dumbed it down because people were driving into the

862
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: canals on a real weed. When we first went to Amsterdam.

863
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: We was so strong there and the hash to and

864
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: and tourists were just going crazy. They were walking through

865
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: plate doors and fucking driving into the canals. So they

866
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: dumbed it down. They mixed it with hemp. Routoralis Russian

867
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: road weed. To see, the Russians were always growing hamp forever.

868
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: They got a history of it. That's why the War

869
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: of eighteen twelve was fought because every Navy needed canvas

870
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: for the sales and rope. No rope is made without him,

871
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: and himp and cannabis are the same plant. Which cracks

872
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: me up that the federal government makes hemp legal, not

873
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: realizing they've already made. Somebody needs to take that to

874
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: the court and get their asses kicked because the Supreme Court.

875
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: I go crazy when it's a schedule one. This is

876
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: the greatest gift and they're playing that game. You'd I

877
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: just tell you one thing, Joe, real quick. You know

878
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: this doctor who actually worked in the federal government. He's

879
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: the guy that wrote that Todd Mcarheah was his name,

880
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: and he came to the grateful dead warehouse when to

881
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: fifteen past in California and gave us all our medical licensing,

882
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: and he wrote a book about cannabis history of medicine.

883
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: Now in eighteen eighty two, the British, we're in India.

884
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: India is a cannabis loving country man. They don't like

885
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: to talk about it, but it's part of their sacred stuff.

886
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: They do it. They have temples devoted to it, and

887
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: so uh Up in the Bengal provinces is the strongest

888
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: weed in the world. Man. Anyway, So when the British,

889
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: this guy is a British doctor and he goes, I

890
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: want to go out and follow the ru Vedic doctors

891
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: of India and what they do in eighties. And so

892
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: he went and followed these guys in Calcutta and they said, sure,

893
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: come with us. And a baby, a one month old

894
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: baby was having an epileptic fit. That to this day

895
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: is the worst thing a doctor can see. A one

896
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: month old baby. You're close to death and this poor infant.

897
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: What can you do? The doctor didn't panic. The Indian doctor.

898
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: He went to a drawer and he opened it and

899
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: he took out a vial and he unscrewed it. He

900
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: stuck his finger in it and he stuck it under

901
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: the baby's tongue and about thirty seconds later that kid

902
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: calmed out completely and they dr O'Shaughnessy was his name,

903
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: the British guy. He took that back to England and

904
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: it became a craze in England in the eighteen eighties

905
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: and they had hashpolors everywhere. Man, everybody was smoking hash.

906
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: It spread all over Europe Man, Paris, everybody was doing that.

907
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: And French wine of Mariani, which was wine with cocaine

908
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: in it. And in America in the joke, you probably

909
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: have some of your trunk, Joe, this is what he

910
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: was talking about on the show. Just want to show

911
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: you a bottle of it. I'm gonna have to come

912
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: back from I just have one. I just have one left,

913
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: but I just want to show you. I know you're

914
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: not gonna partake, but it just would it looked like.

915
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: But we're gonna have to do a part two because

916
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: there's so much more. Oh, there's just so much, so

917
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: much great well, and not not only that, but when

918
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: we come back, though, we gotta break real quick. I

919
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: actually want to go back and talk about this beautiful thing.

920
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: This is how the correlation of bringing the strain that

921
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: you did to Grizzly Peak and bringing that because I

922
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: didn't realize that amazing story, that story is magical. Job

923
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: that now takes it to the next level of what

924
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: this strain is, Like I did not know that historical

925
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: but but I know. But like I've got chills, Like seriously,

926
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: you know, like I got chills thinking of now the strain,

927
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: Like it just changes the whole level hearing that story

928
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: of the thousands of years old. That's what I mean.

929
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: It's a different stories thousand years I feel like hash

930
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: in the Bible, man, and this right here has been

931
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: would you say grateful and like you just heard what

932
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: these fucking season the straight came from. It's a thousand

933
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: year old straight history, historical story. It's beyond my I'm

934
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: laughing spinally going we gotta come back and talk about

935
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: its Cannabis Talk one on one. I'll be right back

936
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: after this. If you don't know, you better go look

937
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: it up. Grizzly come on, Grizzly Peaks. I love this.

938
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: This is phenomenal. We'll be right back after this. We'll

939
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 1: be right back with Cannabis Talk one oh one. Welcome

940
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,880
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949
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954
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: staff here for doing so much that they do and

955
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: the show wouldn't be what it is without him. I

956
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: want to thank Jan Erica, Daniel Cal Daniel is the

957
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: one that's yelling at everybody to Steve the way by

958
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: the way, and Cal Christian a Christians, Danny p. Funk, Connor, Kimberly,

959
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:26,640
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960
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: Jennifer and Elvis, and of course Uh Blue is on

961
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: the road right now doing some other big things and

962
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: big Steve, your stories are in this the brand. Like

963
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: I said, I want to I want to get back

964
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: to this beautiful history, and I want to get Dave's

965
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: input because Dave, as I heard that and this story

966
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: comes to you, Dude, I can only imagine being a like.

967
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,959
Speaker 1: I put myself in your shoes right and I'm going

968
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: better yet I can only tell you what I'm thinking.

969
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. What were you thinking when you

970
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: heard that story and they're gonna partner with you, what

971
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: did you feel and think? Because that's story is fucking great. Well, hey, man,

972
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: if if you're a fan, you're a fan. If you're

973
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: a head, your head and you're you're either part of

974
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: the village or you're not, or you get it or

975
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: you don't. You know, we've been following him for a

976
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: long long time since eighties six when I was just

977
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: coming out of high school and uh one of the

978
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: guys worked with the Byron. He's a big fan. We've

979
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: been going to show since we're twenty. We've been two

980
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: hundreds of shows, so it makes it that much more special.

981
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about it last time I

982
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: was on. But also do we get a call. We

983
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: had met a manager at the Sweetwater Music Venue up

984
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: in Marian. We had left some product back behind because

985
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: Bob could come and done a private show with uh

986
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: A little cover band. Bill Walton was there, and so

987
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 1: when we left our product behind, I get a call

988
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: a week later from that manager and says, I got

989
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: somebody that wants to talk to you. And Big Steve

990
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: takes over the phone, going eight, this is some of

991
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: the best weed we've ever had. I got to meet you.

992
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: I want to be part of it. And I'm going

993
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: hold on a second. Byron, come in here. I'm gonna

994
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: put the speaker because remember he's been on the radio

995
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: for a long time, Joe, I mean least some of

996
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: these stories. You know, if you've been following him as

997
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: long as week and not only is the a legend.

998
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: And and to top it off, and I hate to

999
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: say this because it makes it sound like I'm hurting

1000
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 1: my elbow, but for him to know my here story,

1001
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: he's he knows everything. He's a part of the culture.

1002
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: I was a part of the culture. I don't have

1003
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: to hurt myself pouting myself on the back. But when

1004
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: he tells me about me, and of course about I

1005
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: know about him, He's beyond knowledgeable about everything. He's a

1006
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: fucking genius. I'm gonna go out there and say he's

1007
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: probably the most knowledgeable rock and roll historian on the

1008
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: planet at the moment. I'm not gonna argue it. I'd agree,

1009
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: you know. Now, it's three years deep and of a friendship, brotherhood.

1010
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: Hearing him talk, folks throw whoever else next to him,

1011
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: and there's no script in front of him, no fucking

1012
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: calendar dates, no nothing. I'd agree with it. I'm saying

1013
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,479
Speaker 1: I'd arguably throw the next name on the list and

1014
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: let's see them go, because it's a great conversation, you

1015
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Steve, It's like, Dude, this guy's

1016
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: talk it off the hip. He's talking off the hip,

1017
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,959
Speaker 1: coming off that ship, and it's like, what did he say?

1018
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: So you get this call, you're listening to him, You

1019
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 1: tell your partner listen to this, and what's that feeling?

1020
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: Like we're related? And I'm thinking, all this is bullshit.

1021
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: There's no way, I mean, I am this. This meeting

1022
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: is never gonna I mean we're true fans, Joe. I mean,

1023
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're they're getting ready to go out

1024
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: on tour and we're going to the first five shows.

1025
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: Will be the first five every regardless knowing him or not.

1026
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm going no matter what, but to get top ticket.

1027
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm buying, but to get that ticket. And then he comes,

1028
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: he schedules it for three weeks later. He shows up

1029
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: with his buddy, Herbie Herbert, founder of Jersey, founder of

1030
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: Journey Hall of Fame, his best buddy. I'm right, we

1031
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: know the names. Yeah, I know, and and and so

1032
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: for those guys to pull up in our factory, you know, Oakland.

1033
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: We get out of the car. I'm a little nervous

1034
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: and I want to go inside, and he breaks out

1035
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: an old tin. I mean, I got it. He breaks

1036
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: out this old tan that he's got and he's pulling

1037
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: out a joint. He gives one to Herbie, he gives

1038
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: one to me. He's got these prepacks and he's truly

1039
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: telling us that he's got the seed history that this is.

1040
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: You know, he see him. He helped us come out

1041
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 1: with our layout of what these are all about, because

1042
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 1: that was the metal candidate, and you kind of did

1043
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: that and they ended up staying six hours. Him and

1044
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: Herbie hung out, smoked, we we ended up going to dinner.

1045
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: Herbie invested with us. He came on as our you know, ambassador,

1046
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: and I mean that was one of the best days

1047
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: of my life. And then they have this friendship since

1048
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: this is off the fight, and not only friendship. I

1049
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: feel the friend I feel the brother because he's so genuine.

1050
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: I feel the brotherhood right and I know we do

1051
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: because there's there's just certain moments either you get it

1052
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: or you don't. And when you're having a conversation with

1053
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: a man and either you get it or you don't.

1054
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: Hence I had it with you. I just had it

1055
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: with him, and I know we had it. I'm gonna

1056
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: get his fucking number before you because we had that.

1057
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: We have that feel that the men you know what

1058
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: you have and a woman you have it with a

1059
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: woman too. That is so remarkable to think that that's

1060
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: how it came, and that's what the strain is, and

1061
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: that's the history of what folks can be smoking from

1062
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: Grizzly Peak. I may have heard it the first time,

1063
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: but it doesn't resonate like this the way the man

1064
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: says it from his mouth, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1065
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if we heard that story like that

1066
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: ever in my life, to be honest with you, because that,

1067
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: to me is a story that I'm going to try

1068
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: and like share. It's that touching to me, and it's

1069
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: that deep of like not only do I say and

1070
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: it ties into my family? Why is it my family, Dave?

1071
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: Because I'm part of the Grizzly Peak family, like you

1072
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: know in my head, like in my head ties into

1073
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: Joe's family. So when I share their story, dogs, I

1074
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: feel like I'm part of this. It's so stupid, I

1075
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: feel because everyone that your family got to enjoy that

1076
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: nice specially and I have my joint from Grizzy Peak too.

1077
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: So as whit as I feel like I feel like

1078
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm part of this story, is I'm gonna claim it.

1079
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a part of this family story. Is how

1080
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: I feel in my gut. I'm just telling you I

1081
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: feel when I share the story. Guess what my family did?

1082
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: What mean my family? Well, my, my, my, my fucking my.

1083
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: You don't have to see my pree roll. What do

1084
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: you mean my family? My Grizzly Peak Fami, I got

1085
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: my cannabis. Talk Morner, weap everybody, Big Steam hold on,

1086
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: I'll call him right now. What do you mean, Big Steve?

1087
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: You never heard the stories he will? What do you mean?

1088
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it one day. I'm gonna FaceTime somebody

1089
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 1: who's a hugest Big Steve fan. I'm like, hey, Steve, Joe,

1090
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: I know you're like that. I already know you're like

1091
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: that without even knowing and asking you what you're doing here.

1092
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: You're doing a very good thing here. And also you

1093
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: know it's a brotherhood that we have with this stuff.

1094
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: You know you're smoking a cigar right now. I want

1095
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: to tell you something funny. And years on the road.

1096
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: They started when uh you first push president grabbing grabber,

1097
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: they went zero tolerance, and so all of a sudden,

1098
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: now smoking in hotels was out and all this stuff

1099
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: that we've done for years. So we came up with

1100
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: really interesting ways. We smoked on airplanes by taking out

1101
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: the drains and you all go down the roadies knew

1102
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: how to do it right as soon as a musician

1103
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: went in and they distinct the whole plane. How do

1104
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: I do this, guys, Steve, get in here, they didn't

1105
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: understand how you had to keep that right down? Why

1106
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: are you so fucking big step? We lost some good

1107
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: now done that? I gotta imagine hole. But anyway, I

1108
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: want to tell you that, uh, you know, we all

1109
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: fought for this and to have my name on a joint.

1110
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: You know what that means to me, and that it

1111
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: can be bought legitimately, and that we've done it successfully

1112
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 1: in California. The Grateful Dave and the Big Steve people

1113
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: love them. And the thing about that is that you

1114
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: go from spending a night in jail for it and

1115
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: now you're seeing people being able to smoke free and legitimate.

1116
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: That means so much to me. I don't care any

1117
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: other thing, but no one should ever go to jail

1118
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: for this stuff. And not only that, folks, if you

1119
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: want to feel what I feel and feel what you're

1120
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: hearing in your in the l A area, you can

1121
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: actually go out and meet Big Steve on the tent

1122
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: at the l A. Cush Store which is five four

1123
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: seven zero Valley Boulevard in Los Angeless tomorrow you probably

1124
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: missed it, uh, and then six and eleven is gonna

1125
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: be at Packs and SGV. But bottom line, you can

1126
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: find the cannabis there at these dispensaries as well. Grizzly

1127
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: Peak will be at Shakedown Street before the Grateful Dead

1128
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: show at Dodger Stadium as well, So just go to

1129
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: the Grizzly Peak website of course, and all the things

1130
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: once again, Big Steve Parish dot com and Grizzly Peak

1131
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: Farms dot com, Instagram, Grizzly Peak Official and Big Steve

1132
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: Parish and Big Steve. What we like to do, what

1133
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: we've done with of course, Dave and Dave, I just

1134
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: want your answers because you're here. You'll go right after

1135
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: Big Steve. We'd like to do the high five with

1136
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: all the great guests that come on. So we just

1137
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: like to ask five questions. We'll start with Steve, then

1138
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: we'll go to you, Dave. What you've had you on?

1139
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: But I want you to still answer because it's funny.

1140
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: Question number one, how old are you the first time

1141
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: you spoke to cannabis? And where'd you get it from?

1142
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 1: I was just and right. This girl and I were

1143
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: making out in a park and her boyfriend caught us.

1144
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: Hold on her boyfriend. Yeah, tell me you had a boyfriend,

1145
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: He sort of hinted, about his name was Kevin O'Keefe,

1146
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: and shout out to Kevin Kevin, I said, I just

1147
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: kissed her a couple of times. But we got it.

1148
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: We brawled, you know, we fought, and then he felt

1149
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: bad he blacked my eye, but whatever. And then he

1150
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: said to me, come here, and we went way around

1151
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: out in these bushes by the back of the baseball field,

1152
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: and he had a bush there and he pulls out

1153
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: a thing and he opens up a tinfoil and in

1154
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: it was some gnarly looking weed man, real gnarly weed

1155
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: man in six nineties is the nineteen five. And so

1156
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: we roll it up. He shows me how to roll it,

1157
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: and we sit down in the park and we smoked

1158
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: these dueints. And uh. The next day I went back,

1159
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: he showed me and he put it away and we

1160
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: smoked it and and and he said, you'll get higher

1161
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: and higher every time you use it. Well, the next

1162
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: day I went and stole the stash and and that

1163
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: was it. As I'd already knew, I got his worst shot,

1164
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: so we had to fight again. But anyway, what amazing

1165
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: fucking story, Hey, Dave. He goes down as the history

1166
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: and storyteller, I mean not only a story, but storyteller too.

1167
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: But I want to tell you something. From that day on,

1168
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: I never missed a single I don't know many people

1169
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: even in jail. When I was in Riker's Island. The

1170
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: first thing they said they brought me up and that's

1171
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: tears like prison. A guy says, hey, you want to

1172
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: buy a joint, kid, I said, no, I don't want

1173
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: one right now. That was the only time I didn't smoke,

1174
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: because every jail there's drugs, and the best thing is

1175
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: cannabis for common people out they would have so many

1176
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: less problems. Everything. They make pruno and they get all

1177
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: buzzed up on alcohol and they want to fight. They

1178
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: still people still haven't got it. But anyway to digress. Yeah,

1179
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: so I started smoking every day and because the grateful dead,

1180
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: you know, we would be going to all these places,

1181
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: straight places, and they all asked, us, boy, you guys

1182
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: could do everything. The stage chance would see us from

1183
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: the you know, up in the lights, and they go,

1184
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: you guys, just get the smoke pot all day and

1185
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: all this beautiful scene is party going on. You know,

1186
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: all these stars of Jane Fondas and whatever is coming

1187
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: there to see us, and all the movie people, and

1188
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: and uh, it looked like a glamorous life. And they said,

1189
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: and we get drug tested. And do you guys get

1190
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: drug tested? I go, yeah, we get drug tested if

1191
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: we don't have drugs. Were getting fucking trouble, man. It's

1192
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: a different kind of world we live in. That's a

1193
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: real type of test that you guys would get. And

1194
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: that is this I just remember. But you mentioned me

1195
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: being Jerry's best man, right, So he got married the

1196
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: most formal marriage of anybody in the Grateful Dad. Everybody

1197
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: else just got married hippie style, you know, by a

1198
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: guy who got his license in the back of a

1199
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: match book or from something like that. The Universal Church online.

1200
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: So here's Jerry does it at the Tibron Yacht Club.

1201
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: And we had a ceremony up to the church in Saucelito,

1202
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: a real beautiful old church, right, And so we're in

1203
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: the rectory and I'm there helping him dress. He's he's

1204
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: mad as hell, man because he was late a little bit,

1205
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: and so I'm helping him get dressed and he says, light,

1206
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm a joint look at I said. We're in the

1207
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: rectory of the church. Of course, I had one with

1208
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: me I said, I feel a little weird smoking in

1209
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: your should light it up, man, And he never said

1210
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: something like that. He always, you know, okay, we'll wait

1211
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: or something. But man, I just let it right up

1212
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: and gave it to him. He smoked that. Man. It

1213
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: calmed him down. And the whole church stunt a weed

1214
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: man because it was such a little place. Man. But oh,

1215
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: that's so great. It was so great to have him

1216
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: because he loved it. And he always was a pot smoker.

1217
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: And we read, we smoked joints and then read the

1218
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: old underground comics, you know, Our Crumb and the Furry

1219
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: Freak Brothers and all. They were all about weed. You know.

1220
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: So our whole world was about weed, and we loved

1221
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: it and we lived it and that from fifteen to then.

1222
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: What about you, Dave? That's awesome. Yeah, I think you know,

1223
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: talking about last time I was here, but you know,

1224
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: we were doing work on uh neighbor's property and ended

1225
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: up breaking up. But you know, didn't look like regular

1226
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: kind of leaves and kind of then figuring it out,

1227
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, we don't have to google. We were about fifteen,

1228
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: were right in that range. It up went back to

1229
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: manor because we were out in Watsonville. Anything doing some work.

1230
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: Grandparents had a ranch out there, so we do somehow

1231
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: got work and uh, some farm in hand. That's right.

1232
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: I know the area four live Oak Road, you know,

1233
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: four leave Oak Growth. I mean, I don't know the streets,

1234
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: but I know the area I don't know, and I

1235
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: know the work that's out there, agriculture. That's okay, alright.

1236
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: So I was Saint Jose on the east side. James

1237
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: like high Here we go. Jim plunk here went to

1238
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: the same school as I did. There we go. That's

1239
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: a good history there. So that's a good question Number

1240
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: two of the high five. Big Stephen Dave Gash, what's

1241
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: your favorite way to use cannabis. I'll tell you that

1242
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: real quick. Smoking a joey and I'll tell you why,

1243
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: because the temperature is so important that your body receives

1244
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: the smoke. And Astley the first thing you ever taught me,

1245
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: and he taught so much. He was another genius of types.

1246
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: And he would always say, first of all, we you

1247
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: lit a joint. In those days we use matches, you know,

1248
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: And he said, first let that smoke, that sulfur go away.

1249
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: Then you bring it up to the joint and take

1250
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: that hit and exhale that first one. But then what

1251
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: you've got now is the perfect burning temperature for your lungs. Now.

1252
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: I've talked to people about this. I love every way

1253
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: people in jest weed. But that's why I smoke pot

1254
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: in a joint for him, because it sounds about very good.

1255
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: You know, you'll take uh too big a hit off

1256
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: a bob at the cools down the smoke in your lungs.

1257
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: It starts tarring up, and that's why you have those

1258
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: horrendous costs. But I love it all, man. Everything is

1259
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: safe in the cannabis world. I actually believe that it's

1260
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: the best medicine known demand. I can't argue with you,

1261
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: big Dave. Well, I'm gonna go with the convenience of

1262
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: the seventh Pat Joe always got a dog walker. You

1263
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: can light it up, put it back. You got plenty

1264
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: for the day. I'm gonna go with the seven packs.

1265
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 1: And that's the seven pack from Grizzly Peak. There it is.

1266
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: That's a good way to fucking favorite way to wait.

1267
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: Craziest place, I mean, if it gets if you have

1268
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: a fucking crazier place, Steve than the church. If you

1269
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: have a crazy you know. When you were saying it,

1270
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: I was like, is he answering the number three question?

1271
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: And I'm hoping that you're not so Question number three

1272
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: of the high five from Big Steve from The Grateful Dad,

1273
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: of course, Dave gasked, Grizzly Peak, what's the craziest place

1274
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: you've ever used cannabis or smoke? Okay, I'm gonna try

1275
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: to be as briefly as possible. But when we went

1276
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: to Europe in nineteen seventy two, feel free. You don't

1277
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: have to be you could talk. You just have to

1278
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: do something soon. Yeah, I gotta do something in a

1279
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: few minutes. But when we went to Europe in nineteen

1280
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: seventy two, we had to take LSD with us. Okay,

1281
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: had two folks and so Hosley was in prison at

1282
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: the time. He's gotten caught, perfect time for the Sirens.

1283
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: We actually smoked pot in San Pedro prison with him.

1284
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: When we went in a Grateful Dead show the guards

1285
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: through me the keys. We show up to the day

1286
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: Man down at San Pedro here and it was Terminal

1287
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: Island and there was a guard tower and the guy

1288
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: said you're the band. Yeah, he throws me down a

1289
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: ring of keys. He said, open the gate. Man, I

1290
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: opened the gate. He said, what should I do with

1291
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: the keys? He said, leave him hanging there. I'll come

1292
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: down and get him later, says, you pull up to

1293
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: that building right there. We pull up. This is a

1294
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: federal prison security man. Yeah, and as he was in there,

1295
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: it was the library we pulled into. But either way,

1296
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 1: it's loaded our our gear, about five tons of gear

1297
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: into that building in the library, and nobody searched anything.

1298
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: And so we loaded that place up. Man, I want

1299
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: I won't go into that at this moment, but he

1300
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: was taking care of well, he was in prison. So

1301
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: he was in prison, and so you did what you

1302
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: had to do for your boy. I get it. We

1303
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: trusted Ramrod to mix up a batch of acid and

1304
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: he did a mistake. It was too strong. We didn't

1305
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: realize it at the time. And so when we were

1306
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: over there, we're having these boots. Now we're taking you

1307
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: take two drops, you're taking twenty, you're taking one, you're

1308
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: taking tax. So we started off Phil Lash and Ramrod

1309
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: and I we go over to Notre Dame. We're in Paris.

1310
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 1: We go to Notre Dome and we're walking around. Man

1311
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: we can't believe how beautiful this place is. Of course,

1312
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: we're sitting there looking at this giant man dollar spinning around,

1313
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: every color shining so good. And so now Ramrod and

1314
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: I are looking around, and I say, come on, let's

1315
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: go open the door. And here's these steps, worn out

1316
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: steps from ancient footprints. We walk him up the spiral

1317
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: staircase goes on and on granite steps, man worn down,

1318
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: and here we come to the we're on the roof

1319
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame, and there the gargoyles are. And now Ramrod,

1320
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 1: I love the guy. He's gone now. But he only

1321
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: read half of Tom Sawyer his whole life. So I

1322
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: was telling him, said, this is these are the gargoyles. Man,

1323
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: look at this is history. Yeah. And there was a

1324
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: little room up there. I won't go into it, but

1325
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: it was the bell ringers room. It was just like

1326
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: it always was. Black glass, oh, so old, you glasses

1327
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: made from sand and heat. And you could tell in

1328
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: those days they made it so old. It was still

1329
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: blackened up. I felt so bad when that fire happened.

1330
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: So anyway, we're up there a while looking over Paris,

1331
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: and we're high as a kite. So we go. We

1332
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: go downstairs, and we walk out of there and we

1333
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: go over to the louver. Now, now I'm gonna tell

1334
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: you the point where I smoked the joint. So we're

1335
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: walking down the hallway, me and Ram and I appreciate

1336
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: that we're seeing diesel here and there's a small little

1337
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: thing and we walk over and said, grab, I musta

1338
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: ram Simona Lisa. No, no even he knew. And so

1339
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: she's looking at us, and we're looking at her, and

1340
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: we're moving and she's following, and we're tripping out and

1341
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: nobody was around by us, man and herd, and so

1342
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: I look over and there's a little balcony with these

1343
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: French doors, you know, you open them, a beautiful lace curtains,

1344
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: And I said, we got to smoke a joint, Ram,

1345
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: And we pull pull out this bomber that we had

1346
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: because we brought some weed with us, you know, And

1347
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: so we opened the doors and we rode out all

1348
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: this stingy little and here we're blowing this beautiful joint

1349
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: man and looking out over Paris, and we keep looking

1350
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: back at the Mona Lisa. Well, anyway, about a minute later,

1351
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: I hear whistles blowing and everything going crazy. I looked

1352
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: down near his cough with machine guns running towards us

1353
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: from both sides, the whole place, every guard in the place, Michele,

1354
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: I'll be sure, what are you doing? You're stupid Americans?

1355
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: What are you doing? I said, what do you mean

1356
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: calling the stupid Americans? He said, you open these windows here.

1357
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,479
Speaker 1: They didn't give a funk about the weed or nothing.

1358
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: They said, don't you the air of Paris will ruin

1359
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: the Mona Lisa. And then he closes him and he

1360
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: puts this this stacy little latch. He wasn't locked or anything.

1361
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, you call me stupid? In America,

1362
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: that would be locked, man, And we walked away. It's

1363
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: so crazy, though, the Moona Lisa. I've never heard a

1364
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: story like that. And the next sucking day we're over

1365
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: at the Olympic Theater in Paris, Man and I'm sitting

1366
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: on the stage. And now we were typical juvenile delinquents

1367
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: as we grew up, all of us. And so once

1368
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: you get to Europe in those days, every story you

1369
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: went into sold switch blades, gravity knives or switch blades.

1370
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: So we we had we were buying them like crazy

1371
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: because we were flicking him all the time. If everybody

1372
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: gave us any ship, everybody went blades and everybody walked

1373
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: away from us. So it was cool. But anyway, I'm

1374
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: sitting in Paris and I'm smoking to joint on stage,

1375
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting in the Olympic Theater, which was a

1376
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: historical place, and I'm dropping this knife into the stage,

1377
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: man like playing, just having fun, stupid smoking this big

1378
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: bomber right and I pull it out and then I

1379
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: see the shardy shoes right on me, man, and they

1380
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: all the cops were carrying machine guns because they thought

1381
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: that a rock and roll show was a riot. Same thing,

1382
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: so I said, they had stain guns with a little

1383
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: briefcase machine guns. So here's a guy. I look up.

1384
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: It's a gendarme. Man. I go fuck, A felony joint

1385
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: in my hand, a felony knife in my hand. What now,

1386
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: he says, mischieur, your cigarette? No, no, no, no, no,

1387
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: I thought he met marijuana. No he pointed to a

1388
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: sign no smoking smoking, No problem, sir. French cigarettes smell

1389
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: worse than pop man zitanes and gal wise. Man. They

1390
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: covered break, which brings me to that cigar you're smoking.

1391
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: So for a while. I came up with the idea.

1392
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 1: When they were busting us at the hotels. We toweled

1393
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: the doors, we did everything. I said, I'm gonna start

1394
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: smoking cigar and then I went right to Cubans. We

1395
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: realized right away Cubans are the best, and Stone number

1396
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 1: two is my favorite. And Bill Graham heard that Ramrod

1397
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: were smoking cigars, and so he went in New York

1398
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: and he bought us two boxes of Monte Cristo's number two,

1399
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: the best ones, and he stacked him up. And he

1400
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: also went and got us uh ten cigars from a

1401
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: stash of ninety eight pre castro. So we were smoking cigars,

1402
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: going man and covering the pot smell with it because

1403
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: it always a good cover. Until the guy walked down

1404
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 1: home and said, you know this always smells like good

1405
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: cigars and good weed. Good cigars, good weed. Dave Gas,

1406
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: craziest place. I can't follow that out of school. Yeah,

1407
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: in the bathroom, the Mona Lisa, you come on the

1408
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: Mona Lisa. I mean, I don't even want to ask

1409
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: the question to get anybody. Actually, I don't want to

1410
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 1: ask anybody. Do you ever went to France? And just

1411
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: like that, I'm like I want to film that. I

1412
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: want that's to be in the movie, right, Like that's

1413
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: a movie scene of Like what that is? Crazy? Dave?

1414
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: Let's jump to the next one question number four, what

1415
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: is your go to munch? He's after you got high?

1416
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: What is it like early on? Now? Still if you

1417
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: get that good high in a good month. What is

1418
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: Dave grabbing or what is the big Steve grabbing? First off?

1419
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: And then Dave's get it a steak at you're talking about? Yeah,

1420
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: what's get close? Get close, grab grab a mic. I

1421
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 1: mean it's a low carbon it. So there are low

1422
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: car ice creams that are it's just now man, And

1423
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: that's where I go there keeping un healthy and some

1424
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: other bars and they are just great. Oh then healthy, Dave,

1425
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm going peanut butter pretzels, pompomp. This is a good one.

1426
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: If you could smoke with anyone dead or alive, and

1427
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 1: I can't imagine how many you smoked with, anyways, who

1428
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: would it be? And why I gotta say Jerry Garcia

1429
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: because there's just something about me and him smoking all

1430
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: those nights and waiting backstage and he had stage fright

1431
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: and he he would do all his things and he

1432
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: loved to smoke and it helped him, and just having

1433
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: that talk with him and chat with him, and that

1434
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: would be probably why I bring back. So let me

1435
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: ask you. Ready, Yeah, we got a joint. I hand

1436
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 1: it too, right, you hand it to him. What's the

1437
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: first thing you say? How the funk are you? Man? No,

1438
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: the first thing he's gonna say to me is give

1439
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: me a pick. And so to this day, I carry

1440
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: his picks in my He's gonna say, give me a pick.

1441
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: That he goes, well, I get run over by a

1442
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: fucking car. He's gonna come up to me wherever we are,

1443
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: and he said, give me a pick, man, because I

1444
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: always carry his picks, and he never dropped the pick

1445
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: very rarely. But he's probably out of him by now.

1446
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: So that's so spiritual, right there, dog, Thank you for

1447
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: sharing that. That's big. That's big. Yeah, I can't wait

1448
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 1: for you. Get out of your pocket. I get just

1449
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: because I want to see it too. And I just

1450
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: so touched by that because that is exactly probably what

1451
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: would happen. And I'll see you what else I carry

1452
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: in my pocket. But mojo, mojo is what it's all

1453
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: about this world. To me. Man, Some people carry stones

1454
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 1: some people carry carry carry right here a couple of things.

1455
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: What is it? This is a grateful dead him? Uh,

1456
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: Jerry's pick. Show the cameras to show the cameras too, please?

1457
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: Can you show you have a grateful dead emblem and

1458
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: two picks? You keep this with you every day thing

1459
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: it every I got a silver dollar that this man

1460
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,879
Speaker 1: gave me when we first met to bond our friendship,

1461
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: and I carry that there busy Peak, grateful dead Jerry

1462
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: and Bobby and everybody else. Now give me something, give

1463
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: me your shoe, Joe. You're ready for it. I'm gonna

1464
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: give you're ready for it. I'm gonna give you you're

1465
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: ready for No, no, no, you're ready. I'm gonna give

1466
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: you something. And I didn't realize I was gonna do

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01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: this right now. But I don't give you something. You're

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Speaker 1: ready for this. It's something I keep on me that

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to you. You're ready because what

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01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: I give to you is not only my last two

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01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: dollars that I keep in my wallet, but if these

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01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 1: two dollars, if you rub the mic like this, these

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01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 1: two dollars can instantly turn into a two dollar bill

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01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: like that did. You see that. So I'm gonna give

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01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: you this and say for you, not only are you

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01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: gonna remember me from being your brother right here one time,

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01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: but you're gonna remember you are here as your brother

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01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: the second time, because you're gonna have this as the

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01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: one in two times that we've we've met. And right

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01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: here is the two dollars, the two dollar bill. I'll

1481
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: teach you it afterwards, but that's yours. And if you

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01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: keep it in your wallet, you keep it. If not,

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01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: there you go and I'll teach you. I'll teach you

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01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: it afterwards. So there there, no not no, no, no,

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01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: no no. I don't want you last two dollars. It's

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01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 1: not it's I just want to say that on the show.

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01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: Fuck not knowing it for me. Geez, come on, don't

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01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 1: take away from my shine. Don't take away from my

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01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,839
Speaker 1: fucking thing. It's a good one, right, Oh, it's amazing.

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01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: I gotta go hook up, right, you gotta go hook up.

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01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: You gotta get your show, Dave. Let's get your final

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01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: answer on the I know you've said it before, but

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01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: i'd love to hear it again. Well, I hope it's

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01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 1: gonna be you. I heard you were you know getting

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01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: back on possibly samples at least. But that's funny that

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01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: you say that, because I'm only ready for this, so

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01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: I hit the oils only as you say, you're using cannabis,

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01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: So if you have an oil, I would love to

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01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: ingut some oils with you. It's funny because I've said

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01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: this on the show and you don't know there's but

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01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: you know I don't smoke cannabis right twenty three years too,

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01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 1: by the way, Steve over complete accidence have been in

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01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: the program the whole night right smoking cannabis flower only,

1504
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: but can but oils. I'm ingested, and because of the surgery,

1505
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: I've now used cannabis as my regiment of pain medicine.

1506
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: So I've been ingesting where I never did because my sobriety.

1507
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: I would use oils and tinkers in this and that mildly,

1508
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't use anything that would do that until

1509
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: I had surgery. And now I'm a consistent user for medicine.

1510
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm no longer on pain pills. You like that, and

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01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: that being said, who's the person me? But who else? Really? Well,

1512
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: of course you know I wouldn't mind smoking a joint

1513
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: with cherry, but it's been nice to have the next

1514
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: best thing, you know what it's been, and it's been

1515
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: a real honor to have you guys. As you gotta

1516
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: get ready for your show, I just want to say

1517
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: thank you big Steve for coming on the show. Seriously shared.

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01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: And there's any time, any time. A matter of fact,

1519
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope you like our campus. I'm thanking

1520
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: you for coming here. You can utilize it anytime. Let's

1521
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 1: do something here like you here. Everybody here is wonderful,

1522
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: nice folks you got working here, a very good facility,

1523
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: real at home here. I love the way it set up.

1524
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 1: You sit out back well, and I'm sorry you didn't

1525
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: get to meet the CEO and the man who's created

1526
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: all this, Christopher right a k A. Blue, who'll be

1527
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: sitting right here next to me, and he's the guy

1528
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: that visioned this, and we just all of them work.

1529
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: He's been working tremendously hard putting this all together, and

1530
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 1: everybody else has been helping him, but in his vision.

1531
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: So I can't wait for you to slap hands with

1532
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: him to see that. But our home is your home,

1533
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: know that for both of you guys, obviously, Well, I

1534
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: appreciate that but hopefully the radios on this show. Blue

1535
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 1: might not have a seat when he gets back, so

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01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,560
Speaker 1: little you better be working real hard, because welcome to

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01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one oh one with David Joe. Right here,

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01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: It's Cannabis Talk one o one you guys, and if

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01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: nobody else has told you they love you today, guess

1540
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: what we do. Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk

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01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 1: one oh one on the I Heart Radio app, Apple

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Speaker 1: podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Two