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Speaker 3: football season is right around the corner. Fantasy football is

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Speaker 3: right around the corner, and we have the best in

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Speaker 3: the business. And he left ESPN. Matthew Berry is going

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Speaker 3: to join us now with NBC. His podcast, Fantasy Football

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Speaker 3: Happy Hour is out right now. But Matthew Berry, how

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Speaker 3: about that NBC?

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Speaker 4: That's pretty exciting. Stuy, when's the last time we talked

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Speaker 4: to him? You do you guys have a good relationship.

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Speaker 3: We do have a good relationship. Yeah, I mean we

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Speaker 3: text each other and that's you know, I congratulated him

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Speaker 3: say we've only spoken on the phone two or three times,

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Speaker 3: but we text. And really, what I mean we text.

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Speaker 3: It's me asking them who I can start every week.

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Speaker 4: It's just gonna ask you if your texting relationship is

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Speaker 4: you annoying him with fantasy questions?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's a one way relationship.

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Speaker 4: I feel bad. I mean, I'm sure we'll get to it,

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Speaker 4: but I can't. I have to imagine that. That's a

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Speaker 3: Think, well, first off, he's really good at his job.

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Speaker 3: He might not say it because I've had this discussion

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Speaker 3: with him before. He is famous and gets recognized everywhere

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Speaker 3: for him. But it's a great question. And we'll ask

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Speaker 3: Matthew Berry about it right now because he's joining the Zoom.

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Speaker 3: He's with NBC. Now, do you imagine, Billy, he gets

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Speaker 3: quick question the Matthew Berry, it's like starter sit you.

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Speaker 4: Know, yeah, yeah, and still like you're walking, what do

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Speaker 3: Why the fuck am I asking you? I can just

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Speaker 3: ask him stupidity? Are you enjoying the the NBC experience

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Speaker 2: I love it. I mean, I'm sure you guys feel

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Speaker 3: That's fantastic. When you're at ESPN, listen, it's a great place,

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Speaker 3: it's a great platform. It gives you so much visibility,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that wasn't my experience at ESPN. Like

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Speaker 3: It's totally fair what you're saying. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: matt I'm interested in, like, what are what are ahead, guys?

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Speaker 3: So anyway, no, listen, we love the ESPN. It was

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Speaker 3: it's you're right. It's a great company, it's a great place.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes it's the way to get get my attention,

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Speaker 2: like who do I start on? Sunder? Hey, give me

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Speaker 2: I've try when people have come up to me again

427
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,400
Speaker 2: not nearly the frequency of Hugh Jackman. But when people

428
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,400
Speaker 2: have come up to me and they can't remember my name,

429
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 2: or like you look familiar, how do I know you? You know,

430
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 2: anything like that, I try to remember that story about

431
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 2: how incredible like Hugh Jackman could have reacted any number

432
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,160
Speaker 2: of ways to my wife, and all of them would

433
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 2: have been justified, every single one of them. Everything, anything

434
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 2: he would have done at that at that moment would

435
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 2: have been completely justified. And he chose the loveliest, kindest,

436
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 2: most gentle way to you know, uh, to interact with us.

437
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 2: And so I've tried to always remember that when you know,

438
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 2: because sometimes people are awkward and they don't know what

439
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 2: to say, and they you know, they can't remember and anyway,

440
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 2: so that's love.

441
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 3: It's hard. Uh Yeah.

442
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 4: So if you decided, Matthew to go a different direction

443
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 4: and someone's being a little pushy and kind of getting

444
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 4: on your nerves, have you ever done like We'll kill

445
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 4: them with kindness, but I will give them horrible fantasy advice,

446
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 4: like I will make sure to take their season on

447
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 4: bad advice this week.

448
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 3: Oh smile. They won't know. And it was like, oh,

449
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 3: Matthew must have been an off week, but you knew,

450
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 3: like this is going to ruin them.

451
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 2: No, I have never done that, And Billy, that's a

452
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 2: great idea. That's exactly great. I know a few times

453
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 2: where it's just where people have been rude, where people

454
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: have been like, you know, there been times where people

455
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 2: have like literally like just walked up and shoved a

456
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 2: cameron in my face, you know, or like they've followed

457
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 2: me into the bathroom or you know, like or like

458
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 2: if I'm with my if I'm with my daughters, you know,

459
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: I've I have twin daughters that are ten now, but

460
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 2: like there have been times when I've been with them

461
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 2: like five or six and they're like and I'm at dinner,

462
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 2: I'm having a breakfast or something with them, and I'm like,

463
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 2: you know, and they want to like you know, like

464
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 2: really engage, and I'm like, listen, I'm with my kids.

465
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 2: I'm like yeah, yah, yeah, but just I'm like, I'm

466
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 2: with my kids, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

467
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: we take a quick quoto, but you know, can I

468
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 2: And so there are times when people have sort of

469
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 2: you know, I've gone too far and I have I'll

470
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 2: just sort of walk away or just the other key is.

471
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 2: Here's the one that I learned as we talked about

472
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: you know, Jacquin with a moving on thing. Gary Delabaatee

473
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 2: uh you know Baba Booe. Of course, Howard Serco is

474
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 2: a friend. I've been on that show before and his

475
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 2: I asked him about this because same thing like Stern

476
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: fans are crazy, you know, really hardcore. So Gary gets

477
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: recognized quite a bit. I've been out with him before

478
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: and he gets recognized a decent amount, and so I

479
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 2: asked him his Trickies goes, the key I've learned is

480
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: the second hand shake. And I'm like, oh, that's a

481
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: good one. He goes, Listen, everyone comes up, they want

482
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: to shake your hand. Okay, fine, and they talk to you.

483
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 2: And when you're done, the second hand shake is the key.

484
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, he just whatever you're saying, like

485
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 2: well it's great to meet you, or like oh that's

486
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: a great story, or thanks for being a fan or whatever,

487
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 2: the second hand shake. You know, ninety nine times out

488
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: of one hundred, the peep the person will get the

489
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 2: hint like okay, this is over, now I can move on.

490
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 2: So that was That's Gary's key is the second hand shake.

491
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 3: There's always that one.

492
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm sure that happens to you and

493
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: Dan and everyone. I mean, you're yeah, of course, the

494
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 2: Levatard Show, you guys, your fan This is insane, you know,

495
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: you guys know the people that are into you guys,

496
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: are you know, as hardcore fans as there are?

497
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: No it? Uh, it happens all the time. It's uh.

498
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 3: You know, my wife and I are having dinner in

499
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 3: Park City, Utah, and we think it, you know, it's

500
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: just a night for the two of us. And the

501
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 3: next thing I know, I got eighteen kids that might

502
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 3: take college kids who love the show, and I'm doing

503
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 3: shots with them, you know, and it's like the night's ruined,

504
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 3: you know. Right. Matthew Berry's with us. He's at NBC now.

505
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 3: Fantasy Football Happy Hour is the name of his podcast.

506
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 3: We'll ask him what else we'll be doing at NBC.

507
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 3: But I am wondering here because you have such great stories,

508
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 3: matt And by the way, I would take all your

509
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 3: fantasy stories and put them into a book like you

510
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 3: should do that. Man, You've got great stories, and I'll

511
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 3: take royal royalties on it. By the way, Yeah for

512
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 3: the idea, Thank you, Billy.

513
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: I agree a book. I wrote a book in twenty

514
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 2: thirteen called Fantasy Life, but I'm I'm I'm due for

515
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: a sequel.

516
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 4: I'm doing for nine years later on the ideas to

517
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,719
Speaker 4: get Well listen, this is a new book, like the

518
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 4: coolest text?

519
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 3: Well, how about this the coolest relationship you have? Right,

520
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: because you're Matthew Berry, because you're the number one fantasy

521
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: guy in America. What's the coolest relationship you have? Because

522
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: of that? Because I know you haven't at I do.

523
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: And I'll answer the question. But I want you to

524
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: defind coolest for me. So and there are relationships that

525
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: I that I you know, tremendously enjoy, Like how are

526
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: you defining cool? And I will answer that question because

527
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of different ways that can answer that question.

528
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 3: So let's do it through your prism, where it's someone like,

529
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 3: oh my god, I cannot believe I am friendly with

530
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 3: this person simply because I give out fantasy advice. So

531
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: through your prism, someone that you would find cool.

532
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 2: Oh, So, the two people that come to mind, there's

533
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: a couple of people that come to mind. The first,

534
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: one of the most obvious one is jay Z. So

535
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: literally tonight I met jay Z's having his draft tonight

536
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 2: at the forty to forty Club in New York City,

537
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: So I will be there for the tenth year like that.

538
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: You know, I've told this story to you on this

539
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: out of your show, on the On the Love Return Show.

540
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, like so I'm you know whatever. A decade ago,

541
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: I get a call from somebody saying, hey, Matthew, I'm

542
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 2: a big fan, and uh, you know, my league all

543
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: loves you and we'd love you to come by the draft.

544
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: And I say, you know it's in New York City

545
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and I'm like, listen, I'm August is

546
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: my business month. I just don't really come and hang

547
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: out at random people's drafts, like and and I don't

548
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: have three hours to spare. Can I I'm having to

549
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 2: do a video for the league or something like that,

550
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: give a shout out, you know, maybe grade your draft

551
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 2: when it's done. But I just I can't hang out

552
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: for four hours in grade each pick, and you know,

553
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: just and they're like, well, it's for jay Z's league.

554
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: When do you need me?

555
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah right yeah yeah.

556
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: And so I've done. I believe this will be my

557
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: tenth year tonight will be my my tenth year that

558
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: I'm that I've done that. So that's one.

559
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 3: That's who's in this league, by the way, league, So

560
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: it is.

561
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: It is mostly like his close friends and they're all

562
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: titans of industry. Like they're all tans of industry. So uh.

563
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: In terms of people that I think your audience would

564
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 2: immediately know, Chris Paul is in the league, right, So

565
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 2: Chris Paul is in the league. Rich Kleiman is in

566
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 2: the league. Kevin Durant's business.

567
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: Partner almost never won the league, right because he doesn't win.

568
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 3: I mean, O, man, that was a joke. Just sorry,

569
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

570
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: He's a very good fantasy player, I'm and by the way,

571
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: he's an awesome human being, right, I love that, So sorry,

572
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: but he is. Uh, let's see. Uh. Mike Kaiser, was

573
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: the president of Atlantic Records, is in the league. Uh IRV. Gotti,

574
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: the founder of Murder Inc. Is in the league. Kevin Lyles,

575
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: the former president of def Jam who now runs three

576
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: hundred Entertainment. They have like Megan the Stallion and a

577
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: lot of other artists. He's in the league. Wanfrez, who

578
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: runs Rock Nation Sports, He's in the league. Mike Kaiser,

579
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: the president of Atlantic Sports, And I said that Jesse Itzler,

580
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: who's a co owner of the Atlanta Hawks.

581
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 3: Yes, he's in the league.

582
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 6: Uh.

583
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: Steve Stout who runs a company called United Masters, and

584
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: he also found a company called Translation and they do

585
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 2: all the all the all the Chris Paul you know

586
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: Sprite commercials, all the it's a massive, you know, advertising

587
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: and marketing agency. They do a bunch of commercials for Lebron.

588
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: He's in the league. Uh, let's see who else is

589
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: in the league? Uh? Okay Stout?

590
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: Does jay Z like text you throughout the week? Does

591
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 3: jay Z like like, not only are you invited to

592
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: the draft or in the league, You're part of the

593
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: whole deal. You're friendly with him? Like is he texting

594
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: you like, Hey, should I start this guy or this guy? Like?

595
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 3: Is it not tough?

596
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: He?

597
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 3: He?

598
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: Jay's first off, Jay's the defending champion of this league,

599
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: and so he's a really good fantasy player. But he

600
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: was we all like to bounce stuff off of people.

601
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 2: So he will ask my hell, will bounce stuff off

602
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: of me? Like half the time he ignores my advice.

603
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: He's like no, and I'm doing this, you know, instead

604
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: but yes we will. We will text or talk during

605
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: the season about you know, hey, you've been offered this trade.

606
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: What do you want to do? You know, what do

607
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 2: we say? You know that kind of stuff. So well, yeah,

608
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: you know, uh again he doesn't is.

609
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 3: There any room in the league, just out of curiosity,

610
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 3: mat like, is there any room there?

611
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: I don't believe there is there is any want to try.

612
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 3: To squeeze me, trying to get me in if you

613
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: don't mind next year, Stu.

614
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: Got's all due respect, I don't believe you can afford

615
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 2: to be in this league.

616
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: Oh wow, with all due respect, I think I can now.

617
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: Oh you right, that's true.

618
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: You got that Draft Kings money, you actually could actually

619
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: now none of that DraftKings money, you actually could be

620
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: in this league. Probably. Yeah, it's you know.

621
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: About about eighteen months ago you probably would have been right, Okay.

622
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, I mean it's it's uh, it's

623
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: an intense league. I'm trying to think that there's a

624
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: few other guys in the league. I'm sure I'm forgetting about.

625
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: But you were you were headed down another relationship like

626
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: you it was Jay z and and so yeah.

627
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: So you know, I would probably say, Joe Russo, who's

628
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: the Joe and Anthony Roostero A Churs, the directors of

629
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: Avengers Endgame and Adventures in VINDI War the last two

630
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: Captain Americas as well War and Winter Soldier. They you know,

631
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: they just did The Gray Man for a Netflix they

632
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: you know, they they have a massive studio called Agbo Studios.

633
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: And so, uh, Joe Russo and I uh have become friends.

634
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: So in addition to me giving him fantasy advice, we

635
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: were like legit friends and we go to dinner and

636
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: and and he's why I you know, that's why I

637
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: have the cameo in Avengers Endgame. So Jay and I

638
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: are Jay and I are friends. We're friendly, but like

639
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: Jay's not like you know, Jay doesn't text me and

640
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: be like you want to come hang out in front

641
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: row and you know, Beyonce can't go tonight. You want

642
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: to come to the next game with me and sit

643
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: next to me, like you know, like I have. I was,

644
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: let's be clear, like I have a specific role in

645
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: Jay's life and like no, but it's great, Like he's

646
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: he's lovely, He's like he's so great just as a

647
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,239
Speaker 2: human being. Like and I've known him for a decade now,

648
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: and I don't want to say like we're super close

649
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: or anything like that. I'm not trying to uh you know, uh,

650
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: you know, talk about my relationship in a way that

651
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: isn't true. But I will just say that like he's

652
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: so I mean, like he's as close as there is

653
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: to royalty in our in our country. I believe like

654
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: he's like I mean, like he's a level of fame

655
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: that just I don't think you know, people comprehend and

656
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: so but if you didn't know that, if you didn't

657
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: understand that, like, oh, he's a he's legit a billionaire

658
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: and he's you know, he's you know, one of the

659
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: you know, ten most famous people in the universe, Like

660
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like if you didn't know

661
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: that and you just met him and saw how he

662
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: interacts with people, like he's a super normal, sweet, you know,

663
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: genuine guy like who like if you talk to him,

664
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 2: like he's interested in what you have to say, Like

665
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: he's not a you know, he's not a demanding guy.

666
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: He's not aware is this thing? You know, He's just

667
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: I've been around a lot of celebrities that are much

668
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 2: much smaller than Jay that are you know that are

669
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: jerks and he's like, he's a like like I.

670
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: Love if you man, if you set up a text

671
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: right now and ask him to join this zoom, would

672
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: you do it for you? I'm just I just he

673
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: would not do you join yours? Though?

674
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: No, and he wouldn't. And by the way, like, one

675
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: of the reasons that I can text him is that

676
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: I don't ask him to do ship like that exactly

677
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: because because because he got.

678
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: My friendship with him would be over it day. I

679
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: would never have started his.

680
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: Like his his phone and email is filled with nothing

681
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: but people asking him to do stuff for.

682
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: Him of course, right, And so the reason he like

683
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: you is because you don't, right, If I don't, that's

684
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: much the league. By the way, how much is that

685
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: league I should have.

686
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: You I don't. I don't. Yeah, it's one of the

687
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: if you have to ask to gods, maybe I don't

688
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

689
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: If I could afford you know, that's yeah.

690
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: But I'm happy to tell you off air, but it's uh,

691
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: you know, uh, you know, listen, I I want to

692
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: you know, valid being the better part of discussion. I'm

693
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: just gonna say, you know, no comment, it's it's not

694
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: a cheap league. All of them are. Everyone in that

695
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: league is insanely successful and rich and powerful. And I

696
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: think I don't want to speak for him. I would

697
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: never want to speak for him. But my impression of

698
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: being a fly on that wall is that the reason

699
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: he likes that league is that in that league he

700
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: is one of the guys. He is not Jay Z

701
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: and Capitol. No, they'll yell at him. They'll be like, oh,

702
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: make a pick, What the fuck? What are you doing?

703
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: What the hell? Hey, you just took my guy? Fuck

704
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: you like they like they go back and forth and

705
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: they're yelled. You know, it's like no. So I think

706
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: I think he really enjoy like he doesn't have to

707
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: be he can just be himself and these.

708
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 7: Are allers amongst friends and everyone in the league like

709
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 7: keeps it in the league and it's you know, so again,

710
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 7: I wouldn't want to speak for him, but that's my impression.

711
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: Joe Russo and so through Joe Russo. On the Avenger side,

712
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: I've got into leagues with a lot of the Avengers

713
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: and so like I have, I have better relationships with others,

714
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: but I have either met or developed some level of

715
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: relationship with with like Robert Donna Jr. With Chris Pratt,

716
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: with Paul Rudd, with a lot of the you know,

717
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: a lot of the a lot of the people that

718
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: are in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And so I'm a

719
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: massive fan of the MCU and that's great. And Joe

720
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: is like an awesome human being and so you know,

721
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: he's legitimately a friend of mine, and so that's those

722
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: are those would be the two that I would that

723
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: immediately come to mind that I can speak about publicly.

724
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: There's a couple that don't want me to you know.

725
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: I know, and I don't want you to do that.

726
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: You're telling the stories you tell are fantastic. Our audience

727
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: is gonna get mad if I don't ask you fantasy questions.

728
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah I will, I will just a second. But Billy

729
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: has something.

730
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 4: First, do you have like celebrities or people that reach

731
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 4: out to you like weekly, like hey, last minute, like

732
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 4: let me know who to do this? And that, Like

733
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 4: I would imagine there's some that are like high up

734
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 4: that you're like, oh, I'm more than happy to do this.

735
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: But then there's a there's like at.

736
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: The level of like the Property Brothers or something that

737
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 4: you're like leave me alone.

738
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 2: Yes, Uh, the Property Brothers do not. They're pretty big stars. Actually,

739
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: those guys have a massive business, the Property Brothers. You

740
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: if you get on HG TV, like I think you

741
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: pretty much print money, like you know, Chip and Joint

742
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: of games. I think could buy and sell all of us.

743
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: And maybe well they bought a network, didn't they, Yeah

744
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,959
Speaker 3: they buy or whatever.

745
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: I mean. So, but yes, there are some times like

746
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 2: you know, uh, I won't, I won't. I won't call

747
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 2: him out. But like there's like one you know now

748
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: retired baseball player that I meant once at a like

749
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: an s B party like fifteen years ago, and like

750
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: somehow I got his number and like he'll text me

751
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: like it and like I've ignored like the last three years,

752
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: like I just ignore him.

753
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 6: Wow, And I try to, like and he keeps texting

754
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 6: me like hey help being blah blah blah, and I'm

755
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 6: just like I met you once for five minutes fifteen

756
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 6: years ago and you know you were like uh you

757
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 6: know so so majorly or fifteen years ago, like I

758
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 6: don't you know.

759
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 3: Like wow, what team? Just give us the teams?

760
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

761
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 3: Or position? Yeah, that's position.

762
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: He's an outfielder. He's an outfielder.

763
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: Kenny loft average out I want to guess so bad.

764
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: He played on multiple teams. I'll leave it at that,

765
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 2: he played on multiple teams.

766
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: Who was your guests Kenny Lofton?

767
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: No, not as good as Kenny Lofton. I'll give you.

768
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: I'll that one. I will absolutely tell you guys off

769
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: the air if you you know, off the record, I

770
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to.

771
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: Crap on the guy like random text like hey, who

772
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: should I start this week? And you have to respond,

773
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 3: Hey who is this? And right back, I just I

774
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: just I totally guess Fieri.

775
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just ignore them. No, I do get

776
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: random text sometimes, but I just I just ignore them.

777
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: But it is it is sort of insane, like the

778
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: links some people will go like to try to get

779
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: fantasy advice. Like, you know, we've had a couple of

780
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: we've had a couple of incidents where we've had to

781
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: that hasn't been since a bit atn NBC, but there

782
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: were a couple of times where ESPN security had to

783
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: step in and like contact the first be like your

784
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: you know, people that have like tried to show up

785
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: at my house and like weird shit, yeah crazy.

786
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: Fantasy Football Happy Hour is the new podcast on NBC.

787
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 3: It's doing fantastic, of course, because he's fantastic. So I'm wondering,

788
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: do you have like three if you were to give

789
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: the audience three rules, like three Matthew Berry rules to

790
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: potend because there's no givens in this right, there's no

791
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: there's no locks. But if they want to have a

792
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: potentially successful draft, what are the three rules you kind

793
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: of stick by or would suggest to the audience, Like

794
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: for me, I don't take a quarterback until you know

795
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 3: the seventh or eighth round, because there's not a big

796
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: difference between Rogers and Derek Carr. What would you say

797
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: is what are the three rules that you would give

798
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: to to an audience.

799
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: So it's actually a great question because it allows me

800
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: to get in a plug here. We just just recorded

801
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: today the Drafting Manifesto episodisode of the Fantasy Football Happy

802
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: Hour available wherever you get podcasts, wherever you're listening to this,

803
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: it's out there as well, so please download and listen.

804
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: But a couple of ones it would be so I

805
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: think at quarterback, I'll give you I'll give you a

806
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: couple of position ones here real quickly. At quarterback, I

807
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: think I think you know, the old rule was he

808
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 2: can wait on quarterback, and it's still a deep position.

809
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: But I think at quarterback, in an ideal world, you

810
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 2: have a quarterback that can get you points with your legs.

811
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: There's so many dual threat quarterbacks that for you to

812
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: drop the drop back passer like the only the only

813
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: top ten fantasy quarterbacks last year that didn't that weren't

814
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: mobile were Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. And by the way,

815
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers I think at seven rushing touchdowns, so he actually,

816
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: even though he's not he's not mobile the way that

817
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: a Kyler Murray or Josh Allen is mobile. He did

818
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: get you fantasy points with his legs. So you either

819
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: need to be a dual threat guy like a Kyler Murray,

820
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, et cetera, et cetera,

821
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: or you need to have massive and I mean massive

822
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: touchdown passing upside Rogers, Brady, Matthew Stafford, a team that's

823
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 2: going to throw early and often with great receivers, good

824
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: offensive coach. So your quarterback needs to be one of

825
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: those two things, and there just aren't a lot of

826
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that have you know, the the forty five touchdown,

827
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: forty five hundred, forty seven hundred yard, you know, the

828
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: ability that the way that a Rogers of Stafford of

829
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: Brady does. So that's the quarterback. In terms of running back,

830
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: I think basically you either want to get an elite

831
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 2: running back either in the first or second round, or

832
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 2: if you're not, and maybe you go running back running back.

833
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: But if you don't do that, then I think you

834
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: want to wait and basically employ a strategy that's known

835
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: as zero RB, which is that you you load up

836
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: on elite wide receivers, tight ends, running back, quarterbacks in

837
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: the first five, six rounds, and then round six, seven, eight,

838
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: sort of like in there, then you're loading up on

839
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: all a bunch of running backs that are discounted for

840
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: some reason. They're in a committee, they're stuck behind a starter,

841
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: it's not a good team, et cetera, et cetera, And

842
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: you're waiting for people to sort of pop and you know,

843
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: and you're gonna mix and match it over the course

844
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: of the season until you find somebody. Because there's this

845
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: running back dead zone of like sort of rounds four

846
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: through six. But there's a lot of guys that are

847
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: going just because they happen to play running back. But

848
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 2: then I don't love they don't have a lot of upside.

849
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: The Josh Jacobs of the world, the Brief Halls of

850
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: the world, the Damien Harris's of the world. Guys like that.

851
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: Cam Akers is in that range. He makes me nervous

852
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: this year. So you know, you know, Antonio Gibson was

853
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: in that range prior to you know the news about

854
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: Brian Robinson, and so those are the guys that are

855
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: in the running back dead zone, and I sort of

856
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: want to avoid this year. So I'd rather either go

857
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: early and then late on running backs or just all

858
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: late on running back. I don't want anyone in that

859
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: running back dead zone. And then the last thing for

860
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 2: me is same thing with tight end. I either want

861
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: to be one of the first guys in my league

862
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 2: to draft a tight end. Give me a Kelsey, give

863
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: me Andrews, give me a Kyle Pitts, or one of

864
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: the last guys in my league, assuming you're like in

865
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: a ten or twelve team league, one of the last guys.

866
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: Because I don't think there's a tremendous a difference between Goddard, Friar, Mooth,

867
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: zach Ertz or the you know, the Dalton Schultzes of

868
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: the world. Like I think they're all there's not a

869
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 2: huge point differential. We've looked at.

870
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: Where's the drop offs on tight end, Matt, where's the

871
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: drop offs once you get past who I mean?

872
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 2: I think those three uh Andrews, Kelsey Pitts in that

873
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 2: order are a tier. I think Waller and Kittle are

874
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: another tier, and then there's a drop off. So if

875
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: you draft Waller a Kittle a couple rounds after those

876
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: top three, I don't mind it. But you know, listen,

877
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 2: I think Howkinson has a nice year. But I just again,

878
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 2: just in terms of roster construction, I would prefer to

879
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: be either one of the first guys in my lead

880
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: to draft a tight end or one of the last

881
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 2: guys in my leak to draft a starting tight end,

882
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: meaning you're eighth, ninth, tenth, eleventh, twelfth, depending on the

883
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: size of your league in terms of where you're drafting a.

884
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: Tight end, and real quick, those three are going off

885
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: the board, where like second third round, now is that?

886
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? The top three. Yeah, they're doing a second third.

887
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I've.

888
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: I've seen Kelseier Andrews at the end of the one,

889
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: at the end of the first.

890
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to get you out of here.

891
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: You've been gracious for your time. The story has been fantastic.

892
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: Fantasy Football Happy Hour, give us whatever. Three four sleepers. Maybe.

893
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 3: I think the running back wide receiver position is because

894
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: they've become tricky for a lot of people for reasons

895
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 3: you just mentioned. Who are three or four guys you

896
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 3: like at those two positions? Actually, a wide receiver would

897
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: be great because that's the position where everyone struggles.

898
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: You know. I really like Jalen Tolbert in Dallas, you know,

899
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: just talking like sort of deep sleepers. I think kJ

900
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: Osborne is really interesting. I think the Vikings offense is

901
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: going to explode this year. I really do. Again, Kirk

902
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 2: Cousins had over four thousand yards and over thirty touchdown

903
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: passes last year for the team that was bottom fourteen

904
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 2: and pass.

905
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: Rate right right.

906
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 2: And now they get Kevin O'Connell coming over from the Rams.

907
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 2: That team's going to throw throw, throw, So I think

908
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 2: kJ Osborne's pretty interesting there in terms of a deeper

909
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: wide receiver Alan Lazard. Everyone wants to talk about Romeo

910
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: Dobbs and I get it in Green Bay. But Alan's

911
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: art is going to be the number one wide receiver

912
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: or for Aaron Rodgers and he's going like outside the

913
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: top forty and he's good. I think Allan's Art is

914
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: somebody that's just known for whatever reason because everyone's so

915
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: excited about him. I will say that this isn't a

916
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: deep sleeper, but this is a mid tier wide receiver

917
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: that I think has a chance to be top fifteen.

918
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: And that's Juju Smith Schuster. You know, never underestimates to

919
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: got the importance of getting a quarterback upgrade. Look at

920
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: what Cooper cup did last year going from Jared Goff

921
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: to Matthew Stafford, right, And so that's obviously an extreme example.

922
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: But going from last year Ben Roethlisberger to Patrick Mahomes

923
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 2: is an extreme example massive. And there are three hundred

924
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 2: and thirty one targets available on the Chiefs from last

925
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: year in terms of guys Byron Pringle, Tyreek Hill, DeMarcus Robinson,

926
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: Darryl Williams of all people like, there's over three hundred

927
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 2: and thirty targets available on the Chiefs. Juju is still

928
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: just twenty five years old. I think people will be

929
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 2: shocked to know that.

930
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: That really is amazing. It feels like he's been around

931
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: for a while. You're right, I know the Football Happy Hour.

932
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 3: Matthew Berry's at NBC now. The podcast is doing great.

933
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: It is great. He's great. What else might you be

934
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: doing with NBC? Is there anything you can tell the audience?

935
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: Well, I'm doing Football Night in America. So I'm part

936
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: of the pregame show on Sunday Night. So this next

937
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: Thursday night, the opening game of the season, Bills at Rams,

938
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: I will be on the field at Sofi Stadium. I

939
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: will be on Football Night in America doing a couple

940
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: of segments every week. So I'm a cast member of

941
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 2: Football Night in America, which is exciting. Sunday mornings, eleven

942
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: am to one o'clock Eastern, We'll be doing a fantasy

943
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: football pre game. That's literally the name of the show.

944
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: Fantas Football Pregame will be pregaming on Peacock and on

945
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: the NFL on NBC YouTube channel. That's from eleven to

946
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: one every Sunday during the NFL season. And then once

947
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: we get and of course my written work. I love

948
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: eight hundred facts, my rankings all available at nbcsports Edge

949
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 2: dot com, rotorworld dot com. It's one hundred percent free.

950
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: And you know that's all the stuff. The other stuff

951
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: I would plug here is my Fantasy Life newsletter. Go

952
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: to fantasylife dot com with a ton of free tools.

953
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: The newsletter is great. It comes to every single from

954
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: me and my teamy. It's a quick five minute read

955
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: that just lets you know what you need to know

956
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: about fantasy that day. And again, it's one hundred percent free.

957
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: Fantasylife dot com. You hate the newsletter, just on subscribe.

958
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: Have you better? Boy Chris Sims yet I have love him?

959
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah he's great, Yeah, he's great. He curses a little

960
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: bit too much though, I mean.

961
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: I want to I want this podcast, and he yelled

962
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: at me for not cursing. I'm like, I spent fifteen

963
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: years of Disney. I gotta give me a moment to

964
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 2: work out of it.

965
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: He's fucking crazy. Sims Fantasy Football Happy Hour NBC Matthew

966
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 3: Berry gonna be everywhere this football season. Matt thank you

967
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: so much for the time. Good luck at NBC. Uh,

968
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: I don't really need to wish you luck because people

969
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 3: know who you are. They're going to follow you anywhere

970
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:43,959
Speaker 3: you go because your information is the best.

971
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: So thank you, man, I appreciate that you know what.

972
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: And by the way, now that I'm now that I

973
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: am no longer at ESPN, I can I can finally

974
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: make an appearance on the Pirate Ship if you'll have me.

975
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: So let's figure out that some type of season. Talk

976
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: to me.

977
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 3: I love that.

978
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: I know Dan's not a big fantasy guy, but he.

979
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: Will on one on Auto Draft one year he won

980
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 3: a league that's not really winning, right, Yeah, exactly. Now

981
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: we'll get you on there. We'd love to have you

982
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 3: on there. Fantastic.

983
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love you. I'd love to do that. So

984
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 2: that'd be fun. Let's figure that out.

985
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I have fun with jay Z tonight. Man. Thanks guys,

986
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 3: I'll be sanely jealous. That's see you, Matt, good luck,

987
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: Thanks so much. I fucking love Dirty. It's such good stories.

988
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: Really does. He's just so willing to tell him.

989
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 4: I know he did not like me saying he did

990
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 4: something on Dancing with the Stars.

991
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: I got a really bad story. I know she got

992
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 3: your shot. That Simmons too. What did I say about Simms?

993
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 3: You said something about like a sailor. Yeah, yeah, but

994
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: you're worried about your relationship with Simmons. If we were

995
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: in the same place, I'd be more worried. Man, not

996
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: gonna come. I keep telling you that he loves you.

997
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: Why he's oh Man, Matthew Berry was great, Billy? Huh?

998
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 4: I did I tell you, by the way with sim

999
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: Yea Barry was incredible. Did I tell you my strategy

1000
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 4: with Sims? I think I did. So I've just been

1001
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: I've just been said something he does not like to.

1002
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 4: So I've just been sending him like, hey, look here's

1003
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 4: a to a teacher that I found. If you want

1004
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: to buy, I wonder what size are you gonna send

1005
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 4: you one?

1006
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: What's his response?

1007
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 4: He's man, he's gonna go like halfway through guy less

1008
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: football this season and be like, I'm done with these clouds.

1009
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: Does how many F bombs does he send back to

1010
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: you when you do that, you know, getting under his skin?

1011
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 3: Why we love don't know my relationship with no. I

1012
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: teld him Happy Birthday the other day, So that's that.

1013
00:46:53,680 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 3: Did you send them to a T shirt? No? He does.

1014
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: He hates do it. I don't care. I'll say it.

1015
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 3: He hates do it.

1016
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 4: I think we I think Air you and I were

1017
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 4: talking and are like man hope to have wins, MVP,

1018
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 4: just investment Simps.

1019
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: SIMS will give credit to Tie Hill. He'll probably be

1020
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 3: right to.

1021
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 4: Imagine a world at the end of this season where

1022
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: Tua has made a Pro Bowl because he has insane

1023
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 4: stats and Simms is just screaming to no one he's

1024
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 4: not that good.

1025
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 3: He would do that because simpce the type that will

1026
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: stay entrenched and it is arguments. All right, Billy, this

1027
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: was fun. Matthew Berry check him out Fantasy Football Happy

1028
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: Hour now for NBC. It's uh, it's doing very very well.

1029
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Speaker 3: I don't want to mention it's doing better than our

1030
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Speaker 3: stupotomy