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Speaker 1: Happy new year, boys, are ready to go, a lot
Speaker 1: of things to chop up. We'll look back on some
Speaker 1: things from over the weekend, in fact, the last ten
Speaker 1: days or so, some stories that we weren't able to
Speaker 1: comment on, but glad to be back here in the
Speaker 1: new year. Got a great guest list coming up today.
Speaker 1: Kirk d Cousins, the Vikings quarterback, will stop by. Kurt Warner,
Speaker 1: the NFL Network Hall of Fame quarterback, will check in
Speaker 1: with the Patriots. Marks Leras from Fox Sports stops by
Speaker 1: a little bit later on as well. Best and worst
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Speaker 1: Even for the best sports careers, it rarely ends pretty
Speaker 1: The greatest quarterbacks in NFL history are no exception. I
Speaker 1: think we always look at John Elway and say, well,
Speaker 1: that's the way you're supposed to go out. Well, John
Speaker 1: couldn't play anymore because in his legs couldn't withstand another season,
Speaker 1: so he left winning a Super Bowl. Peyton Manning left
Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl, or he was the quarterback on
Speaker 1: a team that won the Super Bowl. But those guys
Speaker 1: are outliers. Usually a player's skills decline, the team gets worse,
Speaker 1: and then they move on from their quarterback. And we
Speaker 1: don't know what the future holds for Tom Brady right now,
Speaker 1: but that seems to be the biggest question after this
Speaker 1: weekend's games Tom Brady and the New England Patriots. Is
Speaker 1: his final play in a New England uniform going to
Speaker 1: be a pick six that wildcard lost to the Titans.
Speaker 1: Brady's forty two, He's a free agent. He wants to
Speaker 1: play a few more years. And it's hard to tell
Speaker 1: how much blames should be piled on Brady here, how
Speaker 1: much of this is his supporting cast because we all
Speaker 1: fall into this trap. Well, they got to get Brady
Speaker 1: some weapons, Okay, didn't they do that the last couple
Speaker 1: of years where they went out and got a wide
Speaker 1: receiver first round draft pick nikkil Harry Sony Michelle. They
Speaker 1: used first round draft picks here. They traded for Mohammed Sanu.
Speaker 1: I know Gronk retired, Edelman had his issues this year,
Speaker 1: but they have gone out and tried to get talent.
Speaker 1: Maybe the blame should be on Bill Belichick too. Did
Speaker 1: he get him the right weapons? They tried to get weapons,
Speaker 1: they just didn't get him. But is this the end?
Speaker 1: Is Brady going to reconsider? You sit down in the moment,
Speaker 1: you know, you say, well, you know, I'll probably come
Speaker 1: back and play. Now that's in the moment. What happens
Speaker 1: over the next two weeks. What happens when you're watching
Speaker 1: these playoff games or you're not watching these playoff games?
Speaker 1: Are you go on vacation here? And then what happens?
Speaker 1: You lost to a Tennessee team? And Tennessee was the
Speaker 1: better team. They were both sides of the ball. They
Speaker 1: were a better team. But you know, I still look
Speaker 1: at Bill Belichick. You know, we want to heat praise
Speaker 1: on Belichick. This all feels like the blame is on
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. And I can put blame on Brady, but
Speaker 1: I got to put some blame on Bill Belichick. Remember,
Speaker 1: Belichick's the guy who takes away your best weapon. That
Speaker 1: was Derek Henry. He didn't take away your best weapon.
Speaker 1: And you led a team that's led by Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: beat you in your place after you lost to the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: that put you in the position to be playing the
Speaker 1: Titans in a wild card weekend. So Bill Belichick didn't
Speaker 1: have a good season either. Everybody has injuries. I know
Speaker 1: we love to bring up, well, they were injured, they're backing. Okay,
Speaker 1: what team went through the season. The Eagles got this
Speaker 1: far and had worse injuries, devastating injuries where they did
Speaker 1: lose all their weapons, and they almost won the game
Speaker 1: with a backup quarterback who's forty years of age. So
Speaker 1: as much praise as we give Belichick is the greatest
Speaker 1: coach of all time, he deserves a lot of blame
Speaker 1: because I didn't think he had a good game against
Speaker 1: the Titans because Derrick Henry and everybody knew he was
Speaker 1: getting it. That's one of those people talk about the
Speaker 1: wide open offenses. Here, do you realize how many passes
Speaker 1: they completed? Eight? Remember that's changing the NFL. Everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: run you still can run the football and play good
Speaker 1: defense and you can still win in the NFL. Ask
Speaker 1: the Vikings run the ball, good defense, Titans run the ball,
Speaker 1: good defense, Seattle run the ball, good defense. That's the formula,
Speaker 1: whether you like it or not, that's still a formula
Speaker 1: that can win win playoff games. The wide open offenses,
Speaker 1: those are great during the regulars season. The playoffs come
Speaker 1: down to this, can you stop somebody when you have to?
Speaker 1: And we saw that there were teams that couldn't stop
Speaker 1: somebody when they had to. You know, the Saints couldn't
Speaker 1: stop the Vikings when they had to, and the Saints
Speaker 1: move on. We'll talk about the Saints coming up. We'll
Speaker 1: have a poll question. We got a play of the day,
Speaker 1: we got a couple of stats of the day as well.
Speaker 1: Waiting for the announcement with two a tongue of Ioloa.
Speaker 1: Does he decide to return to Alabama? Does he decide
Speaker 1: to go pro? Or how about both? Where you go
Speaker 1: back to Alabama but you don't play football, but you
Speaker 1: get ready for the NFL? Or do you just go
Speaker 1: on your own and have somebody work you out, get
Speaker 1: you in shape for the NFL? Don't I don't want
Speaker 1: him to play and not get paid. If he's going
Speaker 1: to go back to Alabama, I mean, good for him,
Speaker 1: whatever he's comfortable with. If I was advising him, not
Speaker 1: that he's asking for my advising is I would say,
Speaker 1: you know what, get healthy and do it on your
Speaker 1: own terms. You don't owe Alabama anything. And I would
Speaker 1: tell him get paid while you're doing this, or you're
Speaker 1: going to get paid the next time you play football.
Speaker 1: But too if he decides to go back to Alabama,
Speaker 1: you know, that's his decision, and you know, he seems
Speaker 1: like a pretty grounded kid, so I wish him luck
Speaker 1: with that decision. Cowboys finally finally put Jason Garrett out
Speaker 1: of his misery. I'm still not sure what they were doing.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, this was the This was
Speaker 1: the most polite firing ever, and I don't know why
Speaker 1: they were dragging it out. They're saying, you know, Jason's lobbying.
Speaker 1: When I saw that, I go, of course, he's lobbying
Speaker 1: to stay, Like was he going kicking and screaming? God?
Speaker 1: I don't want to go back there and coach again.
Speaker 1: So Jason Garrett's been fired, and let's ramp it up
Speaker 1: is Lincoln Riley. He's the odds on favorite right now.
Speaker 1: I still think Sean Payton is a name to keep
Speaker 1: an eye on. I do. I just I said this.
Speaker 1: I've said this for years now. I thought Sean Payton
Speaker 1: would end up as the Cowboys coach, and damn it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna continue to do it. Now.
Speaker 1: You have maybe a little bit of a choice. Maybe
Speaker 1: if you're Sean Payton, you say, have we gone as
Speaker 1: far as we could go in New Orleans? Because now
Speaker 1: you have Drew Brees at age forty? And then you
Speaker 1: wonder how long he's gonna play? What is the future there? Now?
Speaker 1: You guys went out again. You know, I can't be
Speaker 1: losing that game at home to a Vikings team that
Speaker 1: has a lot of talent, but you didn't know if
Speaker 1: they were capable of doing it like they did in
Speaker 1: your building. Does Sean Payton say, you know what, maybe
Speaker 1: I need kind of a rebirth here. I could go
Speaker 1: back to Dallas. How about I leave before they asked
Speaker 1: me to leave. You got a really young offense there,
Speaker 1: and Sean is really good with offenses, and I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just I throw that out there. I don't have
Speaker 1: any other information on that, but you know, the odds
Speaker 1: on favorite looks like it's Lincoln Riley from Oklahoma. I've
Speaker 1: said that if I'm Lincoln Riley, I don't go into
Speaker 1: that not right now, you know, because as much credit
Speaker 1: as I can give Lincoln Riley for that offense, I
Speaker 1: gotta give him a whole lot of blame for that defense.
Speaker 1: And I know that they had a couple of starters
Speaker 1: who weren't there. I mean they had no chance, zero chance. Well,
Speaker 1: they had the lowest percent you could possibly have, I
Speaker 1: think in that game in the final four, because they
Speaker 1: don't play any defense. Joe Burrow could have thrown for
Speaker 1: twelve touchdowns. I thought he did. He could have. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it. There's like a mercy rule in softball,
Speaker 1: you know, where you go, hey, hey, can we just
Speaker 1: end this after five? Yeah? We would? Can we end
Speaker 1: this at half time? I think if you could have
Speaker 1: said to Oklahoma guys, you guys can't leave now, and
Speaker 1: it's over with and and and got gift bags here,
Speaker 1: they're really nice and LSU's agreed that they they'll they'll
Speaker 1: leave to We're just going to end it at halftime. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, okay, all right, let's go. But Lincoln Riley
Speaker 1: offensive genius, but you know, not a defensive genius. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mclov Now that is some internet chatter than Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: How boring is that it? I mean, I know he
Speaker 1: has his yes, but how we deserve something more than that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sean Payton sexy never the last ten years. We deserve
Speaker 1: a better choice than Mike McCarthy, Right, Marvin Lewis, right,
Speaker 1: come on, you gotta get creative here. Yes, to some reports,
Speaker 1: we just Jerry wants one with the NFL experience that
Speaker 1: knocks out the Lincoln Riley's and Matt Rules and Urban Myers,
Speaker 1: and it looks more towards the McCarthy type. I don't
Speaker 1: know what I mean, does Jerry know what he's doing?
Speaker 1: It's like the Browns are screwing it up again. Right,
Speaker 1: didn't didn't think Fredo was gonna last, and I didn't
Speaker 1: think he was going to be brought back. So now
Speaker 1: what they're doing is they're going to hire a coach
Speaker 1: before a GM. That's why would you do that? Because
Speaker 1: now there might be a GM that you'd be interested
Speaker 1: in who goes? But that's not the coach that I want.
Speaker 1: How do you do it? Well, that's the Browns, That's
Speaker 1: how they do it. How about you hire a GM
Speaker 1: who is going to be working with the coach and
Speaker 1: helping the coach instead of the coach you hire. And
Speaker 1: I don't believe the urban Meyer rumors. I do believe
Speaker 1: urban Meyer is getting nervous that he's not going to
Speaker 1: have a head coaching job this upcoming season. He missed
Speaker 1: out on USC. And you know, the information I got
Speaker 1: there was a big timed owner who said I'll pay
Speaker 1: everybody's salary of all the coaches if you bring in
Speaker 1: urban Meyer. So that was gonna happen at USC. Big
Speaker 1: time donor said, I got it. I'll write to check.
Speaker 1: I want urban Meyer. This donor was told that ain't happening.
Speaker 1: I don't think the donor is a big time donor anymore.
Speaker 1: At USC, this donor wanted urban Meyer and did not
Speaker 1: get urban Meyer. And then with the Cowboys as much.
Speaker 1: And I was told urban once the Cowboys job, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to get the Cowboys job,
Speaker 1: the Brown's job. I think that's one of those where
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Bruce Feldman did Urban a solid and
Speaker 1: you know, put his name out there because he worked together.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's kind of interesting there with the coaching carousels.
Speaker 1: We like to say of who's going who's not going.
Speaker 1: Do you say, is Belichick coming back next year? I
Speaker 1: assume he is, right, Like I know that we're looking
Speaker 1: at Tom Brady. I did love this back and forth.
Speaker 1: I love this with Belichick. Here's Belichick talking about well,
Speaker 1: he's trying not to talk about tom Brady's future. Obviously
Speaker 1: give him. Tom Brady's been a lot of talk about
Speaker 1: the future. Do you have a timeline in your mindset?
Speaker 1: You'd like to sit down now you have would you
Speaker 1: like to get clarity? Don't as situation by the time
Speaker 1: you hear stars. Look, I mean, I know it's out there,
Speaker 1: just like there's a lot of other things out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, we could bring up fifty questions just like
Speaker 1: that one, and I go over with my state is
Speaker 1: on that, and so you can ask all fifty of
Speaker 1: them and it's gonna be the same answer fifty times.
Speaker 1: Then we've been working on Tennessee, it's twelve hours after
Speaker 1: the game. I'm not going to talk a lot of
Speaker 1: things about the future because it's not I'm not prepared
Speaker 1: to talk about I'm sure you do. You can name
Speaker 1: fifty guys, fifty coaches. I mean, there's plenty. You could
Speaker 1: talk about anything you want about in the future. There
Speaker 1: are all questions that need to be answer. Oh give them.
Speaker 1: I like that Bill is not moving on to the
Speaker 1: next game like he normally does, or the next season
Speaker 1: or whatever it is he still wants to talk about.
Speaker 1: We're focused on Tennessee. And I love that, you know,
Speaker 1: talk about Brad No. Yeah, see, because it is fair
Speaker 1: to be like, you know what, I just don't know yet.
Speaker 1: I just I don't have those answers yet. That is fair.
Speaker 1: But to do it in the way that he did it,
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, guy, but you have to ansk
Speaker 1: the question. Sure. Yeah, And you know Belichick can't go
Speaker 1: he can't equate the Brady question to forty nine other
Speaker 1: questions that are similar value there. I mean, come on, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 1: And if you watch after the game, Brady was asked
Speaker 1: about his future three different times. The first two times
Speaker 1: he shook off the reporter and the third time he
Speaker 1: actually said it's unlikely. So that's why the reporters stay
Speaker 1: after it. Yeah, they did a great job with that.
Speaker 1: Here is Brady after the game. This is what PAULI
Speaker 1: was talking about. Is there any possibility that you would
Speaker 1: retire after this last season? I would say it's pretty unlikely,
Speaker 1: but hopefully unlikely. That's the way to ask a question
Speaker 1: if you want to get just a yes or no answer,
Speaker 1: and don't be vague and don't say what's your mindset?
Speaker 1: You know, give me your thoughts on playing again next year?
Speaker 1: You ask him the question. You can see where Brady
Speaker 1: couldn't avoid the rush. It's like, Okay, it's unlikely that
Speaker 1: I'll retire after this season. I hope he continues to play.
Speaker 1: But I only want to see these guys when they're
Speaker 1: able to play at an ability or a level that
Speaker 1: they're proud of. I've seen too many of these great
Speaker 1: quarterbacks where they hold on and look, does this diminish anything,
Speaker 1: but Tom Brady does this year? Are you going to go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's final year with the Patriots. He was terrible.
Speaker 1: It's not going to diminish his resume. It's the greatest
Speaker 1: quarterback of all time. I do think that he's interested
Speaker 1: in getting the seventh title, believe it or not. Because
Speaker 1: Jordan has six like, I think there's that competitor in
Speaker 1: him that says I have six seven. Boy, that sounds
Speaker 1: a whole lot more impressive. Nice number, nice uneven number seven.
Speaker 1: I don't know, just a feeling I get with hashtag Tommy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was painful. That was painful to watch.
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe new weapons. Maybe he goes to
Speaker 1: Indianapolis or the Chargers or the Raiders. We'll talk to
Speaker 1: Tom Currn who covers the team, and see what he
Speaker 1: tied in with Brady. Yeah, Paul, where'd you watch the games?
Speaker 1: How is your playoff weekend? Were you settled down in
Speaker 1: the bunker or did you have to entertain people? How
Speaker 1: we're to work? I had everybody out of the house.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to see anybody ever again. Down. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I was in the bar with one of the cats,
Speaker 1: and I'm not talking about a hipster. I was talking
Speaker 1: about an actual cat. And I was there. I was
Speaker 1: having cigars, some tequila left over wolf pup session ipa
Speaker 1: from the Christmas party, go yep. Still got the keg
Speaker 1: out outside and watched the games. So I I was.
Speaker 1: I was left pretty much alone, and I like that.
Speaker 1: After the holidays, Oh god, I just I'm done with people.
Speaker 1: I am, I said, I said in my wife, I said,
Speaker 1: can we can we have holiday next year where we
Speaker 1: don't have anybody over? Even the kids, like you're your kids? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just my kids? Even all kids? Are you my kids too?
Speaker 1: Like I got tired of like, wow, what do you need?
Speaker 1: What do you want? Ah? Yes, it'd be done with
Speaker 1: people like humans in general. That's okay. We had a
Speaker 1: very lovely holiday party entertaining people. Like after a while,
Speaker 1: you just did you realize how late people stayed at
Speaker 1: the Christmas party? Some left at two thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1: Didn't the party started like three, and afternoon started at four?
Speaker 1: It started at five. Some showed up at four. Paulie,
Speaker 1: I know. I got out of the shower and one
Speaker 1: of my daughters goes up, Pauli's here, And I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: paul who I know us? Didn't the party start at three?
Speaker 1: I got that three times he did tell me. He said, look,
Speaker 1: some of us may get there earlier, and I go, okay,
Speaker 1: Paully was the only one who got there earlier. So
Speaker 1: we're setting up the grille. I got Chad from Tragger,
Speaker 1: you know, the German kids there, Like we're tired of
Speaker 1: the create We're all there, and then Paully straggles in
Speaker 1: tapping kegs. Yeah, mate, I know Paul Paully tapped the
Speaker 1: keg and we were off through the races after that.
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Speaker 1: Do you know what I listened to a lot over
Speaker 1: the vacation? Two artists? Let me see if you guys
Speaker 1: can guess old or new? Uh New New Seaton. I'll
Speaker 1: start with you Kanye West new album and Gurgill Simpson's
Speaker 1: new album, No and No Paulli. You lost me at
Speaker 1: new Okay, because I'm gonna guess like the Killers, the
Speaker 1: last new band that I delve into, Okay, like nineteen
Speaker 1: years ago, Uh Todd some type of country music like
Speaker 1: a little Big Town or Awson Krause or something like that.
Speaker 1: Now they're not new. Mclovin. I see you walk around
Speaker 1: the studios. Looks like you're dancing to a Lizzo's song
Speaker 1: in your head. Lizzo is one of the artists I
Speaker 1: was listening to. Yes, you gotta blame it on the
Speaker 1: juice I heard seeing God Lizzo. I'm with my daughters.
Speaker 1: We had a dance party one night and we killed it,
Speaker 1: just dancing Lizzo. Anybody want to guess the other one
Speaker 1: like a Demilovado, like some sort of Ley's Hion, no
Speaker 1: male artist. I like Seaton's guests, Sturgill, but you already
Speaker 1: did that a few months ago, yeah, Sturgils A couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. Post Malone. I love post post post Malone,
Speaker 1: little White Iverson. H I was listening to post Malone circles.
Speaker 1: It's good once again. My daughters were like, Dad, we're
Speaker 1: gonna put on some dance music. And then they put
Speaker 1: on Lizzo and I said, all right, I know Lizzo
Speaker 1: And they said do you know who this is? And
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I don't go post Malone. You
Speaker 1: gotta get to know him. Yeah. See, my nine year
Speaker 1: old son has been listening to post Malone as well.
Speaker 1: He really likes White Iverson. Yeah, and he after several
Speaker 1: months of listening to that, he said, Dad, did you
Speaker 1: know this is about basketball? He says KD. He says
Speaker 1: double ot that's overtime twice. Yeah, buddy, I know D.
Speaker 1: That's Kevin Durant. Did you know that I'm right there
Speaker 1: with your son because I'm saying that to my daughter's like,
Speaker 1: this is about Alan Iverson, you know who? They had
Speaker 1: no idea who Alan Iverson was. I said, yeah, so
Speaker 1: he's saying he's the White Iverson what ring he never won? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I did that and watched a lot of Brooklyn
Speaker 1: nine nine. Wow. Random, and I reread The Firm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: John Grisham, Yeah, thank you. It's a Paige Turner. So
Speaker 1: that was That was part of my big vacation. That's sad,
Speaker 1: really the Firm. I don't know. It's a wonderful book
Speaker 1: to read again. And Lizzo post Malone got my daughter's
Speaker 1: dance party. What else could you ask for? Any movies
Speaker 1: in the mix U. We'll do movie reviews later what
Speaker 1: we saw on vacation. We'll do that because I did
Speaker 1: see a really good movie. And I'll have that where
Speaker 1: you come up, all right. Tom E. Curran, who covers
Speaker 1: the Pats for NBC Sports Boston, will joint us coming
Speaker 1: up in a moment you gotta pull questions? Wow. We
Speaker 1: could obviously go with will Tom Brady be back? Will
Speaker 1: Ta be back? But I think for the most clicks,
Speaker 1: if we can get Jason Garrett and the Cowboys in there,
Speaker 1: somehow so most likely to be back Tom Brady with
Speaker 1: the Patriots, tah with Alabama. I don't know who else
Speaker 1: we were talking about. Is Philip Rivers, Drew Brees the
Speaker 1: older quarterback. Are those guys in the conversation are we
Speaker 1: could have an offseason of will they be back as well? Well?
Speaker 1: I know Ben Roethlisberger said he's going to be back
Speaker 1: and better than ever. Philip Rivers I thought all along
Speaker 1: it was not coming back to the Chargers. Breeze will
Speaker 1: be back. I just I don't know. For some reason,
Speaker 1: I'm curious about Sean Payton, Like, you know, does he
Speaker 1: stay in New Orleans? Feels like they're cursed. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You remember jimbo Fisher at Florida State when he's trying
Speaker 1: to get criticized. What did he do? Bailed, went to
Speaker 1: an M got that huge contract there. Not that Sean
Speaker 1: Payton is getting that kind of criticism because he's not,
Speaker 1: because he's far more successful on a far better coach
Speaker 1: than Jimbo Fisher. But you know, I just wonder if
Speaker 1: you stayed too long or you know what, maybe I
Speaker 1: can go to Dallas, Maybe I look at that team.
Speaker 1: I got a young quarterback. I got a young running back.
Speaker 1: I mean, all those things that would be that, you know,
Speaker 1: very inviting job. It's just you have to deal with
Speaker 1: Jerry tom Curran joining us. The Patriots insider for NBC
Speaker 1: Sports Boston House Morale tho, you know, it's not high,
Speaker 1: and it's definitely not high in the region, but there
Speaker 1: is very much a sense of something's going to happen
Speaker 1: that actually has people perked up. And I think it's
Speaker 1: got Honestly, I think it's got Brady perked up a
Speaker 1: little bit too. But what does that mean. There was
Speaker 1: not the same kind of downcast reaction to the loss
Speaker 1: that you would normally imagine, and I think that a
Speaker 1: lot of that was related to the fact that this
Speaker 1: team was kind of built on quicksand a house of
Speaker 1: cards and it was difficult to drag the team through
Speaker 1: this season. Now that it's over, they can get to
Speaker 1: the figuring out of how do you fix this so
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen again? And am I going to be
Speaker 1: a part of it or not? I also, you know,
Speaker 1: it feels like a lot of the analysts, the experts
Speaker 1: keep saying, well, they're gonna get Tom Moore weapons, didn't
Speaker 1: they do that the last couple of drafts, where you
Speaker 1: use the first round pick on a running back, you
Speaker 1: use the first round pick on a wide receiver. It
Speaker 1: it didn't work. Well, Yeah, reasonable contention, and that's what
Speaker 1: people within the team have said to me when I've
Speaker 1: said the same thing. My thought is, well, you kind
Speaker 1: of waited until the last second. I mean, Rob Gronkowski
Speaker 1: has been talking about retirement and had a bad back
Speaker 1: since two thousand and fifteen, and he didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: And when you finally did, it was Austin Seferie and Jenkins,
Speaker 1: Lance Kendricks and then Benjamin Watson. You were convinced to
Speaker 1: come out of retirement. Tight end, he was a big issue.
Speaker 1: And then you know the wide receiver spot. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: spent a first round pick on Nikio Harry, But first
Speaker 1: of all, it was hurt all year. You don't see
Speaker 1: a whole fleet of Arizona statewide receivers who've had great
Speaker 1: experiences in the NFL. And if you go aside from that,
Speaker 1: he was thrown to Gunner, Olshefsky and Jacobe Myers for
Speaker 1: a big swath of the season. So tight end wide
Speaker 1: receiver were not staffed. Well, that's why it makes it
Speaker 1: so ambiguous to me. And I asked Belichick about this yesterday.
Speaker 1: When you make your evaluation on each position, how much
Speaker 1: do you grade on a curve relative too? Okay, well
Speaker 1: that guy wasn't open. What did you want Tom to do? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I agree with you on it felt like Brady knew
Speaker 1: this was going to happen. A question is what week
Speaker 1: it was going to happen, But the season was not
Speaker 1: going to work out? And I don't know if it,
Speaker 1: when you say it perched him up, And does that
Speaker 1: mean stay here to make it work again or finish
Speaker 1: on a better note somewhere else he wants to. You
Speaker 1: can almost see it from his postgame and his comments
Speaker 1: to Peter King. He's talked a good game for the
Speaker 1: last six months. He's done a lot of the right
Speaker 1: things to make people understand that he's building leverage and
Speaker 1: that he is willing to go someplace else. But you
Speaker 1: can almost sense that he's talking as if I really
Speaker 1: want to come back here. When he said Dan and
Speaker 1: we asked him about being retired, and he said, well,
Speaker 1: hopefully I don't retire. That to me is if I
Speaker 1: don't get the rate of pay that I want here
Speaker 1: or build decides that it was a large part of
Speaker 1: me that was the problem. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: going to go to Carolina, I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: going to go to Los Angeles and played for the Charges.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'll do. So that's why the
Speaker 1: hopefully he won't retire thing I think was tacked on there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just curious about that. We've seen quarterbacks do this,
Speaker 1: and everybody brings up Johnny Unitus and Joe Namath and
Speaker 1: Joe Montana. Is it in Brady's DNA that he I mean,
Speaker 1: he's been loyal, maybe to a fault, but he's been loyal.
Speaker 1: And is there part of him that says, you know,
Speaker 1: now I need to do I need to be selfish.
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't know if there's part of
Speaker 1: him that says, you know, I'm going to be selfish
Speaker 1: and I'm going to do something that's just best for
Speaker 1: me instead of looking at this entire organization. I think
Speaker 1: he does have it in him, and I think he
Speaker 1: wants to encourage that little part of him to be
Speaker 1: stronger and to stand up and do the things for
Speaker 1: him because more than anything else, and it's not the money.
Speaker 1: You're going to hear people talk about the way to
Speaker 1: pay and the gallery. It's not the money as much
Speaker 1: as it is the principle of what he's been asking
Speaker 1: for and what he felt he had been promised self.
Speaker 1: He had been promised at least Okay, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: you through forty three, forty five. We're not going to
Speaker 1: do that. But the idea that this path offseason, when
Speaker 1: a two year, fifty million dollar contract that mirror Drew
Speaker 1: Breeses would have gotten it done with Brady, they didn't
Speaker 1: give him that. That gave him last year, this incentive
Speaker 1: laden deal that he wasn't going to hit any of
Speaker 1: them this year. He said no on the incentives, and
Speaker 1: they gave him a bump. He said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I want to be franchised. Excuse me, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be franchised. At the end of it, because he
Speaker 1: feels he's been told one thing another happens over and
Speaker 1: over and over again. So it's not I need to
Speaker 1: be paid thirty five million, it's I'm tired of being
Speaker 1: told one thing, whether it be the people who are
Speaker 1: going to be around me or at the bargaining table,
Speaker 1: and then another thing happens. Where's Brady planned next year? Here? Here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be here. I really do, because, honestly, Dan,
Speaker 1: there's two things to add to that. One is where
Speaker 1: are the better options? Where are the options? And the
Speaker 1: other is to bear in mind, does Bill Belichick want
Speaker 1: Tom Brady of twenty nineteen back? What? Does he want
Speaker 1: a different guy who is not kicking rocks about the
Speaker 1: guys around him, who is showing up for OTAs and
Speaker 1: passing camp with a new offensive foroid NATO? Quite possibly?
Speaker 1: So there's a lot they have to plow through to
Speaker 1: get the taste of twenty nineteen out of their mouths
Speaker 1: and start fresh. So but I still say it's it's
Speaker 1: probably going to be here because he seems motivated and
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft seems motivated. In Belichick is too smart to
Speaker 1: look at what happened this year and say that that's
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's fault. Who wins the AFC Baltimore way out
Speaker 1: on a limb. I'll take Kansas City for a lunch. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, that's sounds fair, Dan. We're not going to lunch.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy your lunch, but you're gonna have it
Speaker 1: in Boston and oh that's a whole different thing. Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm here with Dan Patrick. I'm here for the Patrick
Speaker 1: Party two. Please he's got you a gift card. Actually, Tom,
Speaker 1: enjoy the right. Am I going to see you in Miami.
Speaker 1: I'll see you in Miami. Oh good, all right, all right?
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tom, sunblock sunblock Tommy especially on top of
Speaker 1: the head. Yeah it's Tom E. Curran, not to be
Speaker 1: confused with Kirk D. Cousins, who will join his top
Speaker 1: of the army. Yes, m club. Okay. All sorts of
Speaker 1: notes and tweets saying please take the Bradys the Chargers
Speaker 1: thing more seriously from LA fans, not from insiders, say no,
Speaker 1: it's wishful thinking. And if you're going to move on
Speaker 1: from Philip Rivers and you get you're moving into a
Speaker 1: new stadium and you want to sell those seats, I
Speaker 1: get it, but I don't know if if I mean
Speaker 1: it sounds good to us. Once again, we tend to
Speaker 1: wish for things and we hope those things happen. Brady's
Speaker 1: the one that has to actually go through the motions
Speaker 1: to make this happen, and the Chargers have to be willing.
Speaker 1: But if I'm the Chargers, and I could get any
Speaker 1: reason for somebody to show up and pay for seats
Speaker 1: to watch our football team, I would do it. Yes, boy, Dan,
Speaker 1: I can find you half a dozen articles today by
Speaker 1: beat writers or calumnists around the country. Could the Bears
Speaker 1: be the next home for Tom Brady? Could the Colt
Speaker 1: be the next home to Tom Brady? The Chargers, there's
Speaker 1: I've got six of them, of six different reporters of
Speaker 1: them based off nothing. I can't see Carolina doing this
Speaker 1: because that's sort of a state of flux there. They're
Speaker 1: not sure what they're doing with Cam. As I was
Speaker 1: told during the season, you know, the quarterbacks they have
Speaker 1: are not their future quarterbacks. That it's either Cam or
Speaker 1: they're moving on and going after the you know, another
Speaker 1: quarterback the Chargers. I could see if Brady wants to,
Speaker 1: you know, go to Los Angeles. I just I feel
Speaker 1: like he's back with New England. I do. I think
Speaker 1: he wants it out there that Hey, you know what
Speaker 1: I've done, everything you've asked me to do. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it hasn't been reciprocated. Maybe the best that it could.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the great his quarterback of all time.
Speaker 1: It also goes back to the Bulls when Jerry Krauss
Speaker 1: and Jerry Reinsdorf said, we're going to dismantle this one
Speaker 1: year early because they could have signed everybody else. They
Speaker 1: could have kept the band together and they would have
Speaker 1: had a seventh championship, and they decided to move on.
Speaker 1: I don't think New England's there yet. I would bring
Speaker 1: back Brady for one more year. I don't know what
Speaker 1: they have in Jared Stidham. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: know what they have in him. But I would bring
Speaker 1: Brady back for one more year and then you still
Speaker 1: have a really good defense. You just need a little
Speaker 1: bit more on the offensive side of things. You know,
Speaker 1: Edelman healthy, nikkiel Harry another year? Is Sony Michelle going
Speaker 1: to be that every down back? Can you add a
Speaker 1: tight end in the you know, those are things that
Speaker 1: I think you could probably spruce up the offense a
Speaker 1: little bit and the defense is still young and good,
Speaker 1: and you know, you would still be a threat. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And when you start to think that the Patriots in
Speaker 1: the last five years have been to the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: four times and one three of them, and they weren't
Speaker 1: exactly a train wreck this year and although the offense
Speaker 1: didn't struggle, they're not that far away. So unless there
Speaker 1: really is just that much bad blood internally between Bill
Speaker 1: and Tom, I don't know why he wouldn't resign there,
Speaker 1: But I don't know why there would be bad blood
Speaker 1: between Belichick and Brady to begin with. They need each
Speaker 1: other unless somebody wants to say I can do it
Speaker 1: without you. And if you get if your ego gets involved,
Speaker 1: then you know that's dangerous. Yeah, Well, that's like the
Speaker 1: one thing that's proven out over time is that winning
Speaker 1: is really hard because once you start winning a little bit,
Speaker 1: everybody wants credit, right, Like the Red Sox went through it.
Speaker 1: The Cubs probably went through it after that one year,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like everybody sort of goes
Speaker 1: through where it's like no, no, no, I was the guy.
Speaker 1: I'm the guy. This is my team. And that's not
Speaker 1: easy to sustain. Although the Patriots have been able to
Speaker 1: do it for, you know, almost twenty years. And I
Speaker 1: think ego got in the way with the Chicago Bulls
Speaker 1: that they were ready to Jerry Crowns was ready to
Speaker 1: build another dynasty there instead of bringing back Jordan and company.
Speaker 1: And they moved on and they've never recovered from them. Yes, Nickle,
Speaker 1: I like this narrative that Lebron and Tom Brady are
Speaker 1: going to be in an lab that's where the cool
Speaker 1: kids are now, like some connection there, that there's like
Speaker 1: a cultural reason for him to be there. I know
Speaker 1: that sounds made up, but like if he said he
Speaker 1: wanted to make movies like Lebron now that everybody kind
Speaker 1: of wants to be in LA, I think he wants
Speaker 1: to be that part of him wants to be an LA.
Speaker 1: Maybe I get it. You know, if he does, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, good for him. He's got a few more
Speaker 1: weapons there than he does with the Patriots. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think we would look at him as more of
Speaker 1: a threat to win another super Bowl with the Patriots
Speaker 1: then with the Chargers. The Chargers need him, I don't
Speaker 1: know if Tom needs them. And these other places Carolina, Chicago,
Speaker 1: I mean Indianapolis. Well, Indianapolis, I see, because you got
Speaker 1: a you know, a quarterback, friendly head coach and Frank
Speaker 1: Reik and you do have a good team there and
Speaker 1: you're playing indoors for you know, half your your games
Speaker 1: or indoors. You got a young defense, he's got some
Speaker 1: you know, skill position guys. So I can see that
Speaker 1: um Gruden always loves the quarterback that he doesn't have,
Speaker 1: So it's like, hey, what do you think of this guy?
Speaker 1: I love him, you know, but here he has Andrew
Speaker 1: luck text year if they yeah, all right, we'll take
Speaker 1: a break here. We got our play of the day
Speaker 1: coming up. Got interesting injury updates for you that will
Speaker 1: affect probably affect the game's coming up this weekend. Have
Speaker 1: those for you coming up as well here on the
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Speaker 1: me crazy, be like he's wide open and he dropped it. Uh.
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf made some big catches there now seven catches
Speaker 1: one hundred sixty yards. And you know the Eagles they
Speaker 1: did the best they could. They did better than people thought.
Speaker 1: I think with all these injuries. You know, there was
Speaker 1: the hit by to Daveon Clowney, and in real time
Speaker 1: I thought it was a dirty play. But you know,
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz doesn't give himself up, so Clowney. I was
Speaker 1: wondering this, Let's say Carson Wentz was a running back.
Speaker 1: Would we have said anything about them? Now? I know
Speaker 1: they want to protect the quarterbacks, but if the quarterback
Speaker 1: is not protecting himself, then the officials shouldn't be trying
Speaker 1: to overprotect him. And he got to treat him as
Speaker 1: a runner, did he? I think I think to Daveon
Speaker 1: Clowney is gonna get fined. I do think that they'll
Speaker 1: find him for maybe spearing because that's what it looked
Speaker 1: like there. But I think that we're looking at because
Speaker 1: it's Carson Wentz a quarterback, that it's more egregious than
Speaker 1: what it is. Yes, McLevin, I agree, but they do
Speaker 1: even out of the pocket, they protect quarterbacks issue. This year,
Speaker 1: they've been overprotecting no matter where the quarterback is on
Speaker 1: the field, So you know, and then actually the officials
Speaker 1: like indetto contact it was it was unnecessary on Clowney's heart, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it looked like he was It looked like he
Speaker 1: was trying to hurt him, like I'm gonna hit you
Speaker 1: with my helme, I'm gonna I'm gonna spear you. And
Speaker 1: then you know, Wentz, his helmet hits the ground. Sometimes
Speaker 1: when you and Chris Collins we're talked about this, sometimes
Speaker 1: when you get hit in the back of the head,
Speaker 1: it's worse than you get hit in the front. And
Speaker 1: then his helmet hits the ground and then he's out
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Speaker 1: But like you said, Wentz doesn't protect himself. If he
Speaker 1: starts sliding, he probably doesn't get hit like that or
Speaker 1: he gets a big penalty. Um. That's It's not the
Speaker 1: first time his career he's been hurt because of his decisions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I do think to Daveon Clowney is going to
Speaker 1: get fine for it. You know there was there was
Speaker 1: no penalty, but I think that they'll probably tee him
Speaker 1: up for fifteen grand. Yes, mclub, what did you think
Speaker 1: of all the Monday Morning quarterbacks who then said the
Speaker 1: Eagles should have kept Foles and maybe Nick Foles really
Speaker 1: belonged and silly and do keep a dannim there? I
Speaker 1: said it earlier this year you did. Yeah, I said
Speaker 1: I would have kept Nick Foles. I don't know if
Speaker 1: even a healthy Carson Wentz beat Seattle. I think Seattle
Speaker 1: was the better team. I think the Eagles were doing
Speaker 1: it with smoke and mirrors, and you know that was
Speaker 1: the credit to Carson Wentz. But I wonder at some
Speaker 1: point do the Eagles look at this situation and quarterback
Speaker 1: and go, is he going to be healthy? With his style?
Speaker 1: For the long haul because he's gotten injured when he
Speaker 1: was running, you know, the play against the Rams when
Speaker 1: he blew out his knee in this play where you
Speaker 1: don't give yourself up, you know, I you know, I
Speaker 1: see this with Deshaun Watson. As much as I love
Speaker 1: him and think he's talented and he's wonderful, we saw
Speaker 1: that unbelievable play, you know, over the over the weekend.
Speaker 1: I just need him to get rid of the ball
Speaker 1: and protect himself. And when you're young, you think you
Speaker 1: can do it, and at some point you're not young
Speaker 1: and you're hurt. Ye. I'm so little confused though, because
Speaker 1: like we love Josh Allen running, Trevor Lawrence all of
Speaker 1: a sudden starts running like a madman for Clemson. Like
Speaker 1: do we want our quarterbacks to run or not run?
Speaker 1: Be smart when you run, that's all you know. They
Speaker 1: the announcers were saying, Oh, Josh Allen, he loves to
Speaker 1: get a hit, you know, he he gets fired up
Speaker 1: like he now he's in the game. He just got popped.
Speaker 1: I hope that you could get into a game in
Speaker 1: a different way. I mean, he's fascinating. He's my second
Speaker 1: favorite quarterback now. Besides Jameis Winston, because I have no
Speaker 1: idea what they're going to do, and either does he
Speaker 1: like that first run and then he caught a touchdown
Speaker 1: and then he sort of uh he paused for a
Speaker 1: moment and then got upended and at the end zone
Speaker 1: at the goal line, then he had the crazy lateral
Speaker 1: and like you're just but he makes some plays where
Speaker 1: you're just going God, if they could have him play
Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson that and I loved Singletary. I love
Speaker 1: that running back. God is he fun. Singletary was awesome.
Speaker 1: I thought that they went to Frank Gore too much.
Speaker 1: I would have kept Singletary and just giving him the
Speaker 1: ball man. He broke tackles, he never stopped. And Buffalo
Speaker 1: had a great year. They did. You know, you hate
Speaker 1: to lose like that, but they had a great year
Speaker 1: and they have a lot to build on. You know,
Speaker 1: got a good defense there, and you know, you developed
Speaker 1: a little bit more offensively. And now you look at
Speaker 1: the Patriots, maybe in a little bit of a state
Speaker 1: of flux here, maybe the Bills are the team to
Speaker 1: beat in that division. Yeampo, damn, A little disappointed in
Speaker 1: you and the rest of us. You don't us the
Speaker 1: hour end of the show, and I don't You don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys noticed it due to the coverage
Speaker 1: the other day. But JJ Watt returned to the field.
Speaker 1: Was he in the game, Yeah, he's played. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he saw it on the coverage, but he
Speaker 1: made it back. We love ourselves from JJ Watt. But
Speaker 1: ESPN guys, they were trying to weave him into the
Speaker 1: fabric of this game. Every reaction. Now, granted, you know
Speaker 1: JJ is not in the control room at least I
Speaker 1: don't think. But maybe as people they're saying, let's get
Speaker 1: a cutaway of JJ one. I mean he had a
Speaker 1: big sack, but man, it was nausea. Yeah, of course. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then they can't make you wear a mike. He
Speaker 1: does it plenty of times. You could turn it down
Speaker 1: if you wanted. I think he has his own microphone.
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