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Speaker 2: It's our Star Wars prequel episode.

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Speaker 3: Wow, okay, okay, and that we did it.

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Speaker 4: We did it. Welcome to beat Boop, Beet Boop.

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Speaker 5: It is our Star Wars Important Caveat prequels episode. Yes,

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Speaker 5: if you are listening to this episode, maybe you remember

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Speaker 5: us talking about our tour that we took last fall

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Speaker 5: where we covered all three Star Wars prequels in a

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Speaker 5: live stage show looking absolutely fabulous, I might add, looking

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Speaker 5: But we are releasing this to the main feed today

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Speaker 5: because frankly, we don't release live episodes often, but this

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Speaker 2: It sure was, so this is the audio from our

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Speaker 2: Chicago show, and during our live shows, we tend to

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Speaker 2: So most of what we did in the live show

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Speaker 2: thank you so much, and.

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Speaker 5: To all of the venues that hosted us in all

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Speaker 4: We have designs. We have designs.

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Speaker 5: In the coming year, it's our ten year anniversary, so

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Speaker 5: we intend to hit the road again.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned, Stay tuned, and in the meantime, enjoy this

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Speaker 2: live show episode of the Star Wars prequels.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Welcome to the Bechtel Cast. Guys, how are you hello?

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Speaker 3: We're so excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: We finally came to Chicago. Sorry, it took us so

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Speaker 5: Yes, but thank you for being persistent and aggressive.

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Speaker 3: We're so, so so excited to be here.

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Speaker 5: It's been a long time coming. We just came from

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, I think twelve of these toys were ever sold.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being here. We're here to talk about

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Speaker 5: Okay, but before we get there, we're cure, is there

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Okay, well, look in.

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Speaker 5: Because we have a lot to get through tonight. This

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Speaker 2: Certainly not who has who has done their homework and

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Speaker 5: I feel like some of you were kind of booing

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Speaker 2: Who has never seen the Star Wars prequels?

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Speaker 3: We feel differently, we feel differently you.

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Speaker 2: what's your relationship with Star Wars, the prequels, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: I don't care about them. I don't care about them.

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Speaker 5: I grew up a loser, but not this kind of loser.

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Speaker 5: They grew on me, I will say, Like, going back

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Speaker 2: Well, fear leads to anger, Anger leads to hate, Hate

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Speaker 5: That's and that is what it feels like, Terry.

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Speaker 3: Now, I actually I am on team Prequels. Good team

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Speaker 5: Ultimately, this is a movie about men being bitches and yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I and I celebrate that.

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Speaker 3: Caitlin, Caitlin, what's the what's your history with the prequels?

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Speaker 2: And then I watched them again to prep for this tour,

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Speaker 3: They're bad. But it was like there was like a

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Speaker 5: Like weird old I mean not to defend George Lucas,

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Speaker 5: That I remember, we saw episode nine together, and I

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Speaker 5: But there's a lot to talk about in this first

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Speaker 2: Yes, soever, we are a pro Jargear podcast. He did

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Speaker 5: I really appreciate how like jar Jar Binks does has

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Speaker 2: He's not. It wasn't wrong, he could not.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's sort of from Ahmed Best perspective of

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Speaker 5: Because not only was the fans not liking the character

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Speaker 3: And it's still I mean, like he and George Lucas

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Speaker 5: I guess he's in The Mandalorian he like plays a character.

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Speaker 2: Definitely in addition to that character, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: To Padme's funeral spoilers.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so fun every watch I went.

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Speaker 3: Invited you there?

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Speaker 5: He's I love Jarger and Padme's friendship. It's complicated. It's

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Speaker 3: weird guy. That's weird.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about the dude, and I was like, well,

442
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: maybe it's because like they find the young lings when

443
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 2: they're small children and then train them up to be Jedi.

444
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: But why couldn't she be that young then?

445
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 5: Like what was the reason that she had to be

446
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 5: twice his size?

447
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: Also because like Lule Skywalker trains to be a Jedi

448
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: and he's like whatever. Eighteen nineteen.

449
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 5: I do like the scene where they bring the kid

450
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 5: Anakin into the Jedi Council and they're like old, nasty,

451
00:26:54,400 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 5: fucked up looking crusty like, and it's like a kid.

452
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: And then they're like, oh, you missed your mummy, you bitch.

453
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 3: We'll get over it. You're in the CIA now. It's

454
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: so fucked up.

455
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 5: But my favorite, my favorite reaction too, because even though

456
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 5: people were weirded out by this like age gap, it

457
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 5: was not even in like the top ten issues people

458
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 5: had at the time, but someone who did, Okay, this

459
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: is my favorite quote about this dynamic is what George

460
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 5: Lucas's ex wife had.

461
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 3: To say, which is so fune.

462
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 5: Okay, so Marshall Lucas, yeah, she she is his ex

463
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 5: wife but also crucially she edited the first Star Wars movie.

464
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: She worked on the original trilogy. Sure, yeah, woman in

465
00:27:53,160 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: the job there in the seventies. It happened, but they it.

466
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 5: Up sometime between the original trilogy and the prequels, and

467
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 5: she of course.

468
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 9: Went to see what that old dusty bitch George was

469
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 9: up to when the first one came out, and she

470
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 9: said the following, Okay, so this is from an article

471
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 9: said George Lucas's ex wife cried tears of sadness at

472
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Speaker 9: Phantom Menace.

473
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Speaker 3: She says, George is in his heart and soul a

474
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 3: good guy.

475
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 5: I wish already, like doesn't your body just sees you

476
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 5: feel like you're a Thanksgiving I wish you would have

477
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 5: directed other kinds of movies. But when I went to

478
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 5: see episode one, I remember going out to the parking lot,

479
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 5: sitting in my car and crying. I cried because I

480
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 5: didn't think it was very good. And I thought he

481
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 5: had such a rich vein to mine, a rich palette

482
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 5: to tell stories with. He had all those characters, and

483
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 5: I thought it was weird that the story was about

484
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 5: this little boy who looked like he was about six,

485
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 5: But then later on he's supposed to get with this

486
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 5: princess who looked like she.

487
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Speaker 3: Was twenty end of quote. I good for her, Yeah,

488
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: good for her.

489
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 5: I wish I could roast my exes on the global

490
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 5: stage like that.

491
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 3: That's thrilling, and she's right, she's right to say it.

492
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: So Anakin is nine canonically in the first movie, Padme

493
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: is I think fourteen. Then it's then it's although Natalie

494
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: Portman was sixteen or seventeen when these movies were being filmed,

495
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: so she's even older.

496
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: And it's like, just it is very.

497
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: Much a bizarre choice that taints a whole thing.

498
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 5: Choice anything else in episode one you wanted to touch on.

499
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Speaker 2: I mean, I just want to mention Natalie Portman and

500
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: her ties to Israel because she was born there, she

501
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: has dual citizenship between there and the US. She was

502
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: raised in the US. She is like, very like the

503
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Speaker 2: liberal Zionism thing, which is you're still just a Zionist.

504
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: She has been critical of Israel in the past, but

505
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: still like defends its right to exist. And so she's

506
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: a Zionist, and we say, fuck her, fuck all Zionists.

507
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 5: So best of luck with that mental illness she has. Yeah,

508
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 5: I think the last thing other than fucking mally Portman Zionism.

509
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, like s girls girl scroll.

510
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 7: Uh.

511
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 5: So I think that one character we really didn't get

512
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 5: to talk about who a lot of people remember very

513
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 5: fondly from the first episode.

514
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: Yes, is Darth Maul so true?

515
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, Darth maum certified hoty. I think we can all agree.

516
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: I think we might even have some like photographic evidence.

517
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 4: Yes, what do we think?

518
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: Do we think that the pattern continues?

519
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 5: I will say I was looking for this and I

520
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 5: this was like the by far the tamest.

521
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: Image I found.

522
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 5: But I just I found it so inspiring Kitalen that

523
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 5: it made me want to write a short story. Oh,

524
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 5: inspired by Darth Maul being hot?

525
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: Would you mind if I if I read it? Please,

526
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: I insist, Please hold my bab ou friend.

527
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: Okay.

528
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: Also, I bought this outfit and it's like for porn.

529
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: I think.

530
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 5: I just put on a second shirt because I was like, oh,

531
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 5: this is a padme outfit designed.

532
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: For your nipples to be showing.

533
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, this is some erotic fanfeiction I wrote about

534
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 5: Darth Maul that takes place immediately after he.

535
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: Is cut in half a shop. If I may.

536
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 5: Darth Maul was having a terrible day. One moment, he

537
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 5: was fighting a twink.

538
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: And a twunk on the edge of a precarious tower. God,

539
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: how many times has he brought up installing a railing?

540
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: How many times?

541
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 5: And the next moment he was at the bottom of

542
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 5: the pit and he had a tummy ache. Darth Maul

543
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 5: pounded his fist on the marble floor before anyone.

544
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: Got to know me. It was such a cool villina.

545
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: He looked down at his body to assess the damage.

546
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: How bad could it? Oh?

547
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 5: Oh, my god? Darth Maul was in fact cut in half.

548
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 5: His lower quadrant lay in a heap beside him, his

549
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 5: toes still twitching. He tried to get a better look

550
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 5: at his top half and saw his little mall spine

551
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 5: poking out like a chicken drumstick. This is the worst

552
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 5: day ever. Mal hauled himself up using his arms. Looks

553
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 5: like all those days lifting with Darth Fuckius getting off

554
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 5: and took stock of the situation.

555
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: He hadn't really meant to kill Liam Neeson, he was

556
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: such a big fan of his.

557
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 5: No one would believe that, though, and Mal felt himself

558
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 5: once again consumed by his imposter syndrome. Huh I can't

559
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 5: do anything right, he said, frowning like the emoticon. But

560
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 5: just then the echo of a familiar voice came from

561
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 5: above where he'd just fallen from.

562
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: It was obi Wan's voice.

563
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 5: I'm so sorry, Liam Neeson, obi Wan whined from above,

564
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 5: not only because you died, but because the man who

565
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 5: killed you.

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00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: Well. Mal couldn't help, but hope. Could it be true?

567
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: I have a huge crush on him?

568
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 5: Obi Wan ran away, leaving Liam Neeson's corpse to rot.

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00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 3: Mal shook his head.

570
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: He knew it.

571
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 5: He'd been having casual hookups all over the galaxy for years,

572
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 5: but that one night with obi.

573
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: Wan last spring that meant something to him.

574
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 5: He knew obi Wan felt the duel, but for nine

575
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 5: months he'd pined. He pulled out his phone and read

576
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 5: through he and obi Wan's last text, screw you, obi

577
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 5: Wan had written a week ago, I have a Tommy ache.

578
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: Maul replied, okay, obi Wan replied, Mal reacted.

579
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 5: With Aminion's gift. Obi Wan had gone silent. Then yesterday morning,

580
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 5: Mal tried again. Please don't be mad, he texted, are

581
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 5: you seriously going to fight us?

582
00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: Obi asked.

583
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 5: Paul had written his whole text out, but never had

584
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 5: the courage to send it.

585
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: The unread text said, no, I have feelings for you.

586
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 5: I debated telling you for a while, but I was

587
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 5: scared and honestly thought it might ruin our friendship.

588
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: But I have to be honest. Still, Mall couldn't help.

589
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 5: But remember how obi Wan looked at him, his thick

590
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 5: arms with the however you would describe the pattern, his

591
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 5: tight little horns.

592
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 3: Obi Wan would have been so lucky.

593
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 5: It didn't matter that Mal was in two pieces and

594
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 5: somehow survived. For the purposes of the porn I'm writing.

595
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 3: He looked fucking good.

596
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 5: Beside him, Mal's bottom half twitched. He'd worry about getting

597
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 5: his two hands surgically reattached later. At least his legs

598
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 5: were still.

599
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was not Mal's leg that had tweeted.

600
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: It was.

601
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 5: He dragged his top half over to be sure, rearranging

602
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 5: the robes. It was Mal's turgid cock. He'd be It's

603
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 5: always good to have the chance to use the word turgid.

604
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 5: He'd be lying if he said he hadn't thought about

605
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 5: it before. If the scyth were so powerful, why couldn't

606
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 5: they suck themselves off?

607
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be the first thing you'd do with that

608
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: kind of power.

609
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 5: But no, Darth Sidius had said the scyth could never

610
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 5: suck themselves off.

611
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: It was a threat to productivity. Not today.

612
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 5: Ma looked at his rock hard peepee, which kind of

613
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 5: corkscrewed like a ducks.

614
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: He looked upon his menacing pukes.

615
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 5: Sure things hadn't worked out with obi Wan, but look

616
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 5: at what obi Wan was missing out on. Maul's leg

617
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 5: beckoned his top half over and for a moment he

618
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 5: wondered about the ethics of consent, then remembered.

619
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: And chuckled to himself. He did it. He sucked off

620
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 3: his bottom half, and he felt both of his hams

621
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: surge with pleasure.

622
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 5: He sucked his turgid, two cork screwed peepee, and then

623
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 5: he kept going. He sucked his own toes, admiring his

624
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 5: sharp little toenails, his thick, diabolical thighs, locked his own

625
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 5: head in place, and.

626
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: Until his tight little horns drew blood.

627
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 5: Far from above, Emperor Palpatine watched the whole scene on the.

628
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: On the Galactic Ring can good day. He murmured, really

629
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: your anger.

630
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 5: Even in the throes of passion, Maul still couldn't help

631
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 5: but get a little silly.

632
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 3: Don't come yet, Darth Maul. I don't know I'm gonna come.

633
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 5: He tried to hold it back, but his top half

634
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 5: could feel his bottom half getting perilously close. When suddenly,

635
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 5: Maul felt a sharp pain at the bottom of his

636
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: top half, the part he couldn't quite see. Oh my god,

637
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 5: he said, trying to focus, but his bottom half seemed

638
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 5: to feel the pain too. The sharp pain contracted again again,

639
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 5: and Mal couldn't help but think of Obi Wan that

640
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 5: night nine months ago. Another sharp pain, and Mal's tummy turned.

641
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 5: Was that what this tummy ache was?

642
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 4: Could it be?

643
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 3: It could? Darth Maul was in labor and the baby

644
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: was coming fast.

645
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 5: Mal's top half fell to the floor in pain, leaving

646
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 5: his bottom to writhe in agony. The contraction subsided for

647
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 5: a moment, and Maul looked at how tenderly his bottom

648
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 5: half was delivering the baby. Maybe just one more suck,

649
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 5: Darth Maul sat on his own face and took his

650
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 5: peepee in his mouth, even though the baby was coming fast.

651
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 5: After mere moments, Mall's bottom half couldn't hold back.

652
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 6: He busted evil come everywhere, red and delicious, Mal was

653
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 6: so enamored with the taste of his own seed that

654
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 6: he could barely focus on delivering the baby.

655
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: The baby, his an obi Wan Kenobi's baby.

656
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 5: As Mal choked and sputtered on his own delicious evil come,

657
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 5: as his own thighs choked, his mean little neck lo

658
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 5: face flashed before his eyes.

659
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 3: How could Obi Wan have ever let this all go?

660
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 5: Fortified by the yummy bad boys Seamen, Mall's bottom half

661
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 5: dismounted as Mall's top half collapsed in birth pain again,

662
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Speaker 5: it was almost time. The bottom half couldn't speak, so

663
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Speaker 5: he farted supportively as.

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Speaker 3: The top half pushed.

665
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Speaker 5: I will never tell Obi Wan about you, Darth Mole,

666
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 5: yelled at the sky. I will send you to a

667
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 5: planet far away where he can never find you. The

668
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 5: last thing Male heard was the sound of his own child.

669
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Speaker 5: He and Obi Wan's child, eh well wanted.

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Speaker 2: What I didn't catch this at the show last night

671
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 2: is that it's Darth Maul's top half birthing the baby

672
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: out of his severed out of the bottom large opening.

673
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, so, yeah, that is what's happening. I sort of

674
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,479
Speaker 5: just to take you into my process. I had two

675
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 5: ideas and then I did them both.

676
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 2: Yes, I love that. I love that that was terrific

677
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: around them.

678
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: That took a lot out of me.

679
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: But I do think that we I think we're ready

680
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 2: now for to examine episode two.

681
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: And so we're going to cross your legs, change your pants.

682
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: We're getting back to business.

683
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. So here is my video recap of episode two.

684
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: About ten years have passed since the first movie. There

685
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: about to be a vote in the Galactic Senate to

686
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: create an Army of the Republic to help the Jedi

687
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: deal with a recent separatist movement. The movie opens with

688
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: an assassination attempt that's made on Padme, who is now

689
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: a senator, but she survives, and Obi Wan and Anakin

690
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: are tasked with keeping her safe, and Anakin is so

691
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,479
Speaker 2: happy and horny to see Padme again. Then someone tries

692
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: to kill her again, but Anakin saves Padme and chases

693
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: down the assassin, who's a woman. Okay, feminism. Then the

694
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: Jedi Council instructs Anakin to accompany Padme to her home

695
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: planet of Naboo, where she will be extra safe. And

696
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: they're kind of vibing, and they vibe some more.

697
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: I don't like sand It's coarse rough and irritated, and

698
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: he gets out everyone.

699
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 2: And they even kiss on the lists. But then now.

700
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: He should have done that.

701
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, a clue from the assassin leads obi Wan to

702
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: the mysterious planet of Camino, where he learns from this

703
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: guy that a now dead Jedi Knight had already commissioned

704
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: an army of clones to be created to fight for

705
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: the Republic, and where like okay, I guess back on Naboo,

706
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: Anakin casually mentions that he loves dictatorships nice. Then they

707
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: returned to Vibing. Anakin tells Padme that he loves her.

708
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: She says it's not possible for them to be together.

709
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: I'm a senator.

710
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: Then Anakin has a premonition slash dream about his mother

711
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 2: being in danger, so he and Padme go to his

712
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: home planet of Tattooine to try to find his mother

713
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: and discovers that she has been captured. She dies in

714
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: his arms, which makes him so angry that he commits

715
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 2: several murders and now he wants to become powerful enough

716
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: to do this.

717
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 3: I will even learn to stop people from dying.

718
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: Okay. Meanwhile, obi Wan ends up at a droid factory

719
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: where he's captured by some bad guys. This dude is there,

720
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: Count Dooku, the leader of the separatist movement who has

721
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: been building a huge droid army to fight the Republic.

722
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: So Palpatine is like, well, if someone grants me extra power,

723
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: I can approve the use of this clone Army to

724
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: fight Douku's droid army. And Jar Jar Binks, who is

725
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: sort of a senator, now does that and gives Palpatine

726
00:44:53,320 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: supreme power and everyone is like, yes, exactly, we love this. Meanwhile,

727
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: Anakin and Padme have received word that Obi Wan is

728
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 2: in trouble, so they head off to save him. They

729
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 2: get trapped in the droid factory for a while. Pad

730
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: May is really good at not getting squished, but then

731
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: they're captured and Padme finally professes her love for Anakin.

732
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: I love you, and then they kiss on the lips again.

733
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 2: Then they're put into a gladiator style arena along with

734
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: Obi Wan to be executed by these big beasts. But

735
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: they manage to survive and fight off the droid Army

736
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 2: with the help of some other Jedi who show up.

737
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: Then the Clone Army appears, who I guess are the

738
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: good guys to battle the Droids who are the bad guys.

739
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: Then Count Dooku escapes, so Anakin and Obi Wan go

740
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 2: after him. Once past is launched out of the climax

741
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 2: of the movie, of course, and the Jedi fight Douku,

742
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: Anakin's arm gets chopped off. Yoda shows up, but Douku

743
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: escapes again and links up with his daddy boyfriend Darth Sedius,

744
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: and the movie ends with Anakin and Padme getting married

745
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: in secret and making out.

746
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 3: All right, they really do launch her right out at

747
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: the climax.

748
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 5: Oh boy, it's brutal. We've noticed this for years. But

749
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 5: she she rolls out of a plane.

750
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 2: Out of nowhere, and then Anakin's like, we have to

751
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: go back and get her, and obi Wan is.

752
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 5: Like, fuck her going on, and He's like, you're right,

753
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 5: that's what God would want me to continue to be

754
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 5: in the CIA instead.

755
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 3: I mean, this one is the boring one.

756
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 5: This one is like, I think generally considered, is this

757
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 5: anyone's favorite of the three?

758
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 10: Wow?

759
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 3: Weird?

760
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: Weird exactly, And I love how adamant you' were.

761
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 3: Yes, that was brave of you to say, yeah, this one.

762
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 5: I mean, this one isn't so focused on the relationship

763
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 5: and then a bunch of senator stuff. So I mean,

764
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 5: you've got me and this one dying the most gnarly death,

765
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 5: and now it's so brutal, and then you have like

766
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 5: Anakin and Badme and their relationship is just baffling. By

767
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 5: the end of this movie, like I get, like, I

768
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 5: guess I do like that the Jedi have to have

769
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 5: like rat tails.

770
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: When this is the one with the worst haircuts. Everyone

771
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: has a really bad haircut. Obi one looks like shit,

772
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: no offense, but.

773
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: Their relationship is like, I mean, like you sort of

774
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 5: get while it's like they're reconnecting app or the bone

775
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 5: chilling initiation in episode one, she's like, oh you turned

776
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 5: out hot, Sure we can hang out. Many of us

777
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 5: have been through a situation like that. You're like, I'm

778
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 5: just shocked that you don't look nine. I don't know,

779
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 5: but like by the end, he has said I think

780
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 5: dictatorships are worth a shot, and he's killed like women

781
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 5: and children, yes, after he finds out that his mother

782
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 5: was taken prisoner by them, and that scene between them

783
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 5: is so bizarre where he's like, I killed forty people

784
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 5: and she replies by saying everyone gets mad sometimes.

785
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: And I just want her to walk me through that.

786
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 5: For what Because they've been dating for like two weeks tops, like,

787
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 5: she this is the time to step.

788
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: Back, and most of that time is just Anakin like

789
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: being really creeply pining after her. And he said, I

790
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 2: wrote down a few choice quotes from him. Yeah, he says,

791
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 2: I've thought about her every day for the past ten years.

792
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: He says, she covered the cameras. I don't think she

793
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: liked me watching her.

794
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like, I don't won where. He says, she's

795
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 3: not like other senators.

796
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he also negs her job constantly. Pad Ma says,

797
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 2: don't look at me like that after he's leering at her,

798
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: and he says why and Padme says, because it makes

799
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 2: me uncomfortable. Anakin says, now that I'm with you again,

800
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: I'm in agony the thoughts of not being with you.

801
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: I can't breathe.

802
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: I'm haunted by the kids that should have never happened.

803
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 3: You are my very soul, tormenting. He's so like MySpace

804
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: coded that he communicates with others.

805
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 4: I don't know this.

806
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 5: I think that this relationship is the best Like Anakin

807
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 5: at this age specifically is the best possible use of

808
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 5: the bouschemmy test all right, which if you don't listen

809
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 5: to the show, is a character that we're supposed to

810
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 5: think is hot.

811
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: And cool and sexy and like la la la if

812
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 3: you replace him with current Steve buscemi is.

813
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 4: But yes, he.

814
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 5: Is the behavior Creepy and Anakin talked of. I mean,

815
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 5: it's creepy when hating Christiansen does it too, unfortunately.

816
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, the relationship is very, very bizarre.

817
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 8: Yeah.

818
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: He also spends most of the time complaining to Padme

819
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: about Obi wan Kenobi. He's like he doesn't.

820
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 3: Notice what a freaking gene usfully you know.

821
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 5: Which this is like ties into and this like peaks

822
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 5: in episode three of Men Being Bitches, where I mean,

823
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 5: I feel like I've known. I mean, this happens to

824
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 5: people of all genders, but especially when a man gets

825
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 5: hyper fixated on another man and you're somehow catching the

826
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 5: stray constantly about like why doesn't Chris think I'm cool?

827
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 5: I don't fucking know, Chris isn't cool. I don't know

828
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 5: why are we talking about this?

829
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just it's weird. It's weird.

830
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: I think.

831
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 5: One of my favorite moments because in the first two movies,

832
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 5: I think Padme is relatively active, more active than a

833
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 5: lot of women in sci fi action were at this time.

834
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 3: So there's qualifiers.

835
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 5: But she does She and her handmaidens fight in the

836
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 5: first movie.

837
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: She is actively fighting through some.

838
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 5: Of the second movie until she's launched out of a plane,

839
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 5: but she does fight in the big Jedi battle thing.

840
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 3: But the thing that happens that's.

841
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 5: Very two thousand too, is the reason that this is

842
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 5: a porn costume, which is that she's wearing a full

843
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 5: costume and then some CGI monster passes and rips it

844
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 5: right here, and she's like, oh no, they God, I've

845
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 5: been doing sit.

846
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: Ups like it's it's so creepy. Old man wrote this line,

847
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: but I don't know.

848
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like there, it's it's not the worst movie

849
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 5: for women, but it is the worst movie to watch.

850
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: Right.

851
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 5: All Right, We've got one more movie to talk about,

852
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 5: and then we can finally decide are these movies feminist masterpieces?

853
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

854
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: Start to start making your talies. We're gonna figure it out.

855
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: Let's check out episode three.

856
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: Yes, Count Dooku is waging war against the Republic. The

857
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: droid leader General Grievous has kidnapped Palpatine, who the Jedi

858
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: and everyone else still think is a good guy. So

859
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: Anakin and Obi Wan go on a rescue mission to

860
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: save Palpatine, but first they have to battle Dooku, who's

861
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: a Sith Lord now I guess, and Anakin chops his

862
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: freaking head off, but General Grievous gets away, so the

863
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 2: hunt for him continues. Anakin reunites with Padme, who tells

864
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 2: him I think she meant to say, I'm gregnand then

865
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: Anakin has another premonition dream thing that Padme dies during childbirth,

866
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 2: so he's distraught about that. Anakin is also growing frustrated

867
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: with the Jedi Council for not making him a Jedi

868
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: Master and for their distrit trust in Anakin's best buddy, Palpatine.

869
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: Then obi Wan heads off to find and destroy General Grievous.

870
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 2: They fight for a while with various weapons, and obi

871
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 2: Wan eventually defeats Grievous. Meanwhile, Palpatine is like, hey, Anakin,

872
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 2: maybe you should use the dark side of the Force

873
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: to prevent your wife from dying. I don't know, just

874
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 2: a thought, and Anakin is like, wait a minute, you're

875
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: the sith Lord we've been looking for. So mace Windu

876
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: goes to arrest Palpatine, but now Anakin is having second thoughts.

877
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: Maybe the dark Side isn't so bad, so he lets

878
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: Palpatine kill mace Windu. Then Palpatine, who looks like this now,

879
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: takes on Anakin as his syth apprentice and tells Anakin

880
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: they better kill all the Jedi, including children. Ah and

881
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 2: then Palpatine has his clone army execute most of the

882
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: other Jedi, though Yoda survives, as does Obi Wan. Meanwhile,

883
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: Anakin travels to a lava planet to kill the remaining

884
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 2: leaders of the separatist movement. Obi Wan and Padme realize

885
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: that Anakin has turned to the dark Side, so they

886
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: show up and try to talk some sense into him,

887
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 2: but Anakin is like no, thank you pass, so he

888
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 2: and obi Wan have a very long lightsaber battle. Then

889
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: this happens.

890
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 7: Chosen One, it would said that you would destroy this

891
00:55:53,000 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 7: and not join them.

892
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: Oh no, and Obi Wan is like bye and leaves

893
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: Anakin to die, but then Palpatine shows up to save him.

894
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 2: Anakin gets medical attention and becomes the familiar Darth Vader

895
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: that we all know and love and He's like, where

896
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: is Padme? But Padme is busy dying during childbirth, just

897
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: like in Anakin's premonition. But the twin babies Luke and

898
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: Lea ever heard of them, are born, and Yoda and

899
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: Obi Wan make arrangements for who will take care of

900
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: the babies, and it all sets up the original Star

901
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: Wars trilogy.

902
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 3: We the end, We our time for Kaylin's vacas. That's

903
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:57,959
Speaker 3: it forever. I thank you, all right, Well you got

904
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: Padme getting launched out of.

905
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 5: The last This movie was a gregious what if. I okay,

906
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 5: there's this movie.

907
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 3: I do like.

908
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 5: I think this movie is the most fun because it's

909
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 5: the most men being bitchy.

910
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 3: It's the longest.

911
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 5: I love how they're screaming like Shakespearean sentences to each

912
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 5: other across lava pits. There's a great line from Anakin

913
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 5: where he's like, uh where uh?

914
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 3: Obi Wan is like, oh the Jedi, Like the Jedi

915
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 3: are good?

916
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 5: This is they're evil, and then Anakin shouts from forty

917
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 5: yards away. In my opinion, it is the Jedi, we

918
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 5: are evil, and we're like, got it cool? Just in

919
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 5: case you had any doubt of where he was at.

920
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 5: But no, I mean the fact that that whole scene

921
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 5: starts by uh Anakin choking and throwing his very pregnant

922
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 5: wife on the ground. Obi Wan is there and they're

923
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 5: just like, well, time to walk around each other traumatically.

924
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 3: She's good, she's good. Don't worry about it.

925
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the best.

926
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: Uh we do.

927
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 2: Well, look at that colorful commentary from me, As you said,

928
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: the men being bitchy to each other is awesome. Actually,

929
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 2: I love to watch it. We uh, we've got bitchy Anakin,

930
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: We've got bitchy Palpatine is a huge bitch in this

931
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: Yoda Doo bitch.

932
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 5: It's so weird because it's like, if you grew up

933
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 5: with the with the original movies, you're like, oh, this

934
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 5: funny muppet who has superpowers, But in the prequels, I

935
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 5: was like, Yoda is a stern, bitchy nine hundred year

936
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 5: old who thinks children are.

937
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 3: Old and should stop whining for their mommies.

938
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, well that's the thing. Like, and this has

939
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 2: been discussed. There's actually a great pop culture detective video

940
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: essay about this, but basically, the like Jedi obsession with

941
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: like emotional repression, and since most of the Jedi who

942
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 2: we meet, our men were like, yikes, this never ends.

943
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I feel like, yeah, the two sides. I

944
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 3: think it's like intentionally done. But the two sides of

945
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 3: this conflict.

946
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 5: They're either like men should compartmentalize their feelings to a

947
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 5: degree that is unreasonable, or they should use their emotions

948
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 5: to commit violence against others, and there's just no one

949
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 5: that has the happy medium. They're like, this is these

950
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 5: are the two states. These are the two genders of

951
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 5: man feelings. And it doesn't work out too great. As

952
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 5: for our friend Padme, she really gets the short end

953
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 5: of the stick in this one. I think it for

954
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 5: in like eighty percent of the scene she's in, she's

955
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 5: just pregnant.

956
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 3: And crying at her apartment.

957
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 5: Yes, it's so frustrating watching this because at the end,

958
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 5: her like big last scene before she goes to the

959
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 5: Lava planet, she's like in the Senate and she says

960
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 5: that like whatever weird, Like like she's like, oh, we

961
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 5: had democracy now we don't like oh oh no, shoot,

962
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 5: which that maybe that line would hit harder if you

963
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 5: saw a single scene.

964
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 3: Of her going to work, like ostensibly she hasn't been

965
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 3: to work.

966
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, maybe democracy wouldn't have fallen if

967
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 5: you clocked in one once or twice.

968
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I made a little just kind of like

969
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: just reflection on what what did women do during these movies?

970
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: It's not that much so you did, so don't buckle

971
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: in because it won't take long, Padme. Like you said,

972
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: she does fight in a couple of battles, especially the

973
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 2: kind of like climactic third act battle of the first

974
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 2: movie and the second movie before she gets inevitably launched

975
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: out of it. But there's that scene in like the

976
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: Gladiator where she like saves herself and I was like, what,

977
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: I can't believe that they let her do that?

978
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 3: Oh they did. They were like, as long as she's wearing.

979
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 2: A crop top. He yes, yes, yes, yes. She does

980
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: a couple senate things. What are they? We're not sure exactly.

981
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: And then there's a lot of fridging in this movie,

982
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 2: first with like Anakin's mother, Me gets fridged in the

983
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: second movie and.

984
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 5: That, and if you don't know what that means, it's

985
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 5: basically a woman character uh being killed off to advance

986
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 5: the plot of the male protagonists, which is what happens

987
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 5: to every woman in this movie.

988
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 3: And they have the fact.

989
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 5: That Anakin has like what it seems like sometimes his

990
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 5: only connection to the force is that he has a

991
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 5: bad dream topless when a lady's about to die, I

992
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 5: feel like.

993
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: His one force power.

994
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 3: Wow, this is a pretty pretty useful.

995
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: The women who I know they might die, I don't know,

996
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: wakes up all sexy.

997
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 5: You too, Yeah, mom, Yeah, so that happens.

998
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: Shmi dies in the second movie to kind of like

999
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: start to contribute to his arc to become Darth Vader.

1000
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 2: And then it really takes full form with Padme being

1001
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: fridged at the end where they're like the droid is like,

1002
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: we don't know why she's dying.

1003
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love that she just lost the

1004
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 3: will to live.

1005
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 5: The medical yeah, the medical professional, I mean this is

1006
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,959
Speaker 5: somehow times how anyone who is in this is Man.

1007
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 3: Is treated at the doctor.

1008
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 5: But they're like they like, you know, strong, they strung out,

1009
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 5: and they're like, well, she's perfectly healthy, but she's dying.

1010
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 3: So you better get in there.

1011
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 5: And they're like, we haven't tried anything, and we're not going.

1012
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: To to be fair if I did as much like

1013
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: ignoring of red flags as Padme does to Anakin, and

1014
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 2: like and then saw in front of my eyes him

1015
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 2: becoming a sith lord. I would also die. I'd be like, Wow, she's.

1016
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 3: Dying of embarrassment. She's like, my husband's being so embarrassing.

1017
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get out of here.

1018
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 5: I'm going to join the forest because I mean, look,

1019
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 5: many such cases that happens.

1020
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 2: It happens.

1021
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's I mean, there is Okay, maybe this

1022
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 5: this duvetails into something that that I'd like to discuss.

1023
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 2: Indeed, Yeah, the only other thing I was gonna say

1024
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: about it is just like, other than those few examples

1025
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: we just listed, women are basically inconsequential to the movies.

1026
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: You have, like a couple women jedies. What are their names?

1027
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: Who are they? What have they done? We have no

1028
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 2: idea thing with like a woman fighter pilot. Sometimes there's

1029
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 2: like women in the Senate or doing political thing. But again,

1030
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: like we just don't. We know nothing. We know nothing

1031
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: about any of them. We know nothing.

1032
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 5: But what if I told you I spent the last

1033
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 5: couple of weeks reading twenty five comic books, four novels,

1034
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 5: a million Wikipedia pages, and generally wasted a lot of

1035
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 5: my one human life reading all the one thing. Okay,

1036
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 5: so this is like kind of like it's cheating when

1037
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 5: there's like feminist retconning of an obviously not feminist franchise.

1038
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 3: But I like to watch them try.

1039
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 5: So I wanted to share with you, Caitlin Dorante and

1040
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 5: you audience, an argument for Padme being a good character.

1041
01:04:53,800 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 3: Maybe let's go go Okay, we could do that.

1042
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 5: Let it play'd at our show yesterday, that sound cute

1043
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 5: was playing whenever it was starting in the middle of sentences,

1044
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 5: way before it was supposed.

1045
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 2: To happen, and then it was supposed to happen.

1046
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 5: Okay, So I'll be as quick as I can, but

1047
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 5: I do need to justify all five thousand hours I

1048
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 5: spent reading every single ancillary piece of Padme content, and

1049
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 5: there's a lot of it.

1050
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 3: Okay, So let's go to the next slide. I am

1051
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 3: the Padme defender.

1052
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 5: I am a white woman with brown hair, so it

1053
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 5: is therefore my duty to attempt So let's first look

1054
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 5: at the next slide with the women we get in

1055
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 5: the movie, and then I'll talk to you about what

1056
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 5: we found. Right, our first lady is Padme, a queen

1057
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 5: who becomes a senator, who later becomes a fridge wife.

1058
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 3: And a baby machine. She dies for plot reasons.

1059
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 5: Next Shmi, an enslaved woman who immaculately conceives bad Jesus

1060
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 5: and then becomes a friged mommy. The Handmaidens. There's a

1061
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 5: bunch of them and they all look like padme on purpose. Look,

1062
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 5: there's one's head right over there. We don't get to see.

1063
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 5: We see them die.

1064
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 3: More often than we see them speak. Next zam Wessele

1065
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 3: question mark.

1066
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 2: We know, we know her, we love her.

1067
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 3: In the middle of uh trying to find five women,

1068
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 3: I really started.

1069
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 5: To struggle, which is why, which is why I'm ending here?

1070
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 7: Uh?

1071
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:38,919
Speaker 4: Or her?

1072
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 3: Who's that? I don't know?

1073
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 5: But maybe she was really important at one time on

1074
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 5: her planet of origin.

1075
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 3: We'll never know.

1076
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 5: And with that I wanted to go to other people

1077
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 5: that I would describe as her. On the next line, her,

1078
01:06:55,560 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 5: let's so, let's let's just take a moment for for

1079
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 5: her and what about in her?

1080
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 3: Remember her? And her? Who could forget her? She's a

1081
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 3: little bullerry, but we love her? What about her?

1082
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1083
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 3: Also I think she's from a deleted scene. Her her,

1084
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 3: she's pretty bright.

1085
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 5: Her, she's the hot her, the same She's Oh no,

1086
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 5: I really.

1087
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: Okay?

1088
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 5: Well, that's that's if you go to the She's actually

1089
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 5: pretty important if you go to the if you click again, yeah,

1090
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 5: she's important if you're a dork, I found out.

1091
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 3: And then and then finally there's her, and so in

1092
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Speaker 3: a way, there's a lot of women. It's a rich tapestry.

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Speaker 5: So I wanted to as I was looking through all

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Speaker 5: of this behind the scenes footage, I wanted to see

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Speaker 5: what did George Lucas or Natalie Portman have to say

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Speaker 5: about the feminist masterpiece that they were part dissipating him.

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Speaker 3: And I have the information. Let's go to the video.

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Speaker 3: This is my sext up version.

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Speaker 10: I guess of the queen got over the hump of eighteen,

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Speaker 10: so I'm allowed to show tummy now.

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Speaker 5: I guess, okay, we can stop the clip there where

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Speaker 5: we can stop there, and then Samuel la Jackson's like,

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Speaker 5: the love story is really good. So that is all

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Speaker 5: I was able to find in a discussion of women

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Speaker 5: at all in four and a half hours of behind

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Speaker 5: the scene footage and featuring the phrase the hump of

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Speaker 5: eighteen bone chilling that What's even worse, though, is in

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Speaker 5: a movie that Caitlin you sent yourself features at least

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Speaker 5: a half hour a piece of ships taking off and landing.

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Speaker 5: There were actually scenes filmed for Padme in which things

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Speaker 5: happened to her.

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Speaker 3: It drives me up a wall. Okay, In episode two,

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Speaker 3: all really quick, we have a whole.

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Speaker 5: Scene where we meet her family, we meet her sister,

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Speaker 5: We understand her political motivation. She worked with refugee children

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Speaker 5: when she was a kid, That's why she wanted to

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Speaker 5: be a senator.

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Speaker 3: And then in episode three.

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Speaker 5: Even though we really only ever see her pregnant and

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Speaker 5: crying in an apartment, there was a whole story there.

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Speaker 5: Originally that was replaced with ships taking off and landing.

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Speaker 5: Fortunately those we just.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't cut it.

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Speaker 5: But there is this whole story where Padme in the

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Speaker 5: world of Star Wars, and I wouldn't have known any

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Speaker 5: of this information with a gun to my head ten

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Speaker 5: days ago.

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Speaker 3: But she is known as the mother of.

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Speaker 5: The Resistance, right or the rebellion, because in this movie,

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Speaker 5: she originally confronts Palpatine, tries to at least lightly push

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Speaker 5: back on fascism, and actually does do stuff at work.

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Speaker 3: We just ended up thinking, you know, George Lucas decided

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Speaker 3: it was pointless.

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Speaker 5: But you do see a couple of boring Senate meetings

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01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 5: in which she is saying fascism should we not?

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Speaker 3: Here's one I can't believe it has come to this.

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Speaker 3: Chencer Palpatine is one of my oldest advisors. He served

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Speaker 3: as my ambassador when I was Queen.

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Speaker 5: Senator, I fear you underestimate the amount of corruption that

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Speaker 5: has taken.

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Speaker 3: Hold in the Senate.

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Speaker 5: Okay, And the next clip we meet another senator who

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Speaker 5: I wish we got in the movies.

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Speaker 3: I like to call him the Australian guy. We cannot

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Speaker 3: let this turn into another war. Absolutely, that is the

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Speaker 3: last thing we want.

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Speaker 8: We are hoping to form an alliance in the Senate

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Speaker 8: to stop the Chancellor from further subverting the Constitution.

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Speaker 3: That's all I know.

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Speaker 1: A Jedi.

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Speaker 3: I feel we should consult.

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Speaker 2: There would be dangerous.

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Speaker 3: We don't know how the Jedi fit into all this.

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Speaker 1: I only wish to discuss this with one one I trust.

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Speaker 5: Going against the Chancellor without the support of the Jedi

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Speaker 5: is risky.

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Speaker 3: The Jedi are not any happier with the situation than

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Speaker 3: we are.

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01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 5: Patient, Senator, we have so many senators on our side.

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Speaker 1: Surely that will supplice.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 5: I want to stop it there, hell, And the final

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Speaker 5: scene I wanted to share is uh when she confronts

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Speaker 5: Palpatine directly, and don't worry, the Australian guy is there too.

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Speaker 3: You are pursuing a diplomatic solution.

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Speaker 5: To the war, then you must trust me to do

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Speaker 5: the right things, Senator.

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Speaker 1: That is why I am here.

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Speaker 10: Surely I said you can stop there, okay, So really

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Speaker 10: quickly into the Padme verse, I want to talk about

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Speaker 10: the handmaidens.

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Speaker 5: They are the interchangeable doubles, so some of them are

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Speaker 5: also played by very famous actors.

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Speaker 3: First we have Sabe.

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01:11:53,960 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 5: Played by Kura Knightley. Canonically, Sabe is Padme's best friend.

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01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 5: She eventually quits the job with Padme and goes on

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Speaker 5: to liberate slaves on Tattooine, where Anakin is from. And

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Speaker 5: then when Padme dies, she joined She infiltrates Darth Vader's

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01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 5: posse and pretends to be Padme's ghost. So she's really

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01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 5: she's a cool character. Let's mix some the naming convention up,

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01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 5: shall we just kidding? Robbie Robbie, she is sort of

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01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 5: the fashion girl of the group.

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01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 3: She designs those cool hot topic robes. Who else do we.

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01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 5: Have Yana, of course, a canonically gay character who marries Sach.

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01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:41,719
Speaker 4: Isn't that fun?

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Speaker 3: Good for them? Two identical women.

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Speaker 5: Married great and then finally played by Rose Byrne, we

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01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 5: have Dorme who joins Padme when she is a senator.

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Speaker 5: Now you might be looking at saj and be like,

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Speaker 5: that's a familiar face.

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Speaker 3: Who the hell is that? Well, that is Sophia Cole.

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Speaker 3: That is, in fact, Sofia Coppola. If if you go

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01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 3: again she is that is her in the Phantom Menace.

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Speaker 3: And if you're wondering, does she remember doing that? No,

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01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 3: she doesn't. She doesn't remember. She had to be reminded.

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Speaker 5: Like we were saying, there are we see the Handmaidens

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Speaker 5: die more frequently than we see them do stuff on screen.

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Speaker 5: So I just wanted to talk about the two who die. Uh,

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Speaker 5: those are Corda and Verse. Corde gets a nice death moment.

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Speaker 5: Padme is like, oh girl, sorry, right. Meanwhile, there is

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Speaker 5: another one who dies. Padme does not seem concerned about it.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what she did. All right, Let's pivot

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01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 5: to talk about Shmi really quickly. I want to just

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01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 5: say Shmi was almost played by Bijork. That would have

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01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 5: been cool Army of Shmi.

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01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,919
Speaker 3: B York joke. So Shmi's character is also feminis redconned

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Speaker 3: in these books.

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01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,759
Speaker 5: We turned her into and the next slide a woman

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Speaker 5: in stem because there is exactly one shot where Shmi

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01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 5: is near a computer chip, and so this poor author was.

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01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 3: Like, okay, okay, we can do this.

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01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 5: And in the in the expanded Universe, she develops technology

1213
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 5: that ends up disabling tracking devices and freeing enslaved people.

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01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 3: In the movie, she just dies.

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Speaker 5: The last thing is Sabe. So, like I was saying,

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Speaker 5: she's pad that's her pretending to be Padme's ghost, and

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01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 5: she almost kills Darth Vader, but then she's like, I

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01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 5: think he's kind of nice. That's sort of where that ends.

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Speaker 5: There's other weird Padme stuff. There's this comic book where

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Speaker 5: Padme is with jar Jar and there's a lot of

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01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 5: jokes about her looking at his butt.

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Speaker 3: In conclusion.

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01:14:52,800 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 5: In conclusion, look, the people are still thy thinking about

1224
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 5: these women for a reason, and for those there, there

1225
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 5: are feminist retcon stories everywhere.

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01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 3: For those with eyes to see.

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Speaker 5: And so I wanted to share my discoveries and argue

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01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,879
Speaker 5: that Padme is a good character.

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Speaker 3: Actually concluded done. Wow, God, so have I convinced you?

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01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 2: No?

1231
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 8: Oh?

1232
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 3: Good? Four thousand hours well spent.

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01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 2: I mean it's nice that there's all that extra ancillary

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01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: like material about her, But as far as we'll we

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Speaker 2: get in the movies, which is what most people have consumed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's much and I feel like that's what

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01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 5: happens in almost like every single big franchise is like.

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Speaker 3: It's very very bland and vanilla.

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01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 5: And then any of the stuff that is inclusive of

1240
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 5: not white guys is like a comic book that twelve

1241
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 5: people have red. Right, It's just so they can be like, well, no,

1242
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 5: you have to really dig, you know. So anyways, Yeah,

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01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 5: she is a feminist legend and we miss her.

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01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 3: We miss her so much. All right, it's too bad

1245
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,440
Speaker 3: she died due to complications of will.

1246
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: To live, losing the will to live.

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01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 5: But the most important, I mean the question, not the

1248
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 5: one of the least important question we talk about in

1249
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 5: this show is do these movies pass the Bechdel That

1250
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 5: is such a good question.

1251
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 2: I now here's what I have done. I've edited another

1252
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 2: little video and this is a super cut. Oh there's

1253
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 2: no it's.

1254
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 3: Good to keep going. Another Haunted soundcum.

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01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: So basically I did a supercut of not even all

1256
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 2: the times the movie passes the Bechdel test. These are

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01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 2: just the moments in these movies, all three of them,

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01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 2: where women interact, and so let's take a look at

1259
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: what that looks like.

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01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 3: See.

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01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: So this is where we're the live show portion of

1262
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 2: the episode. If you do want to watch that video

1263
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 2: of the super cut of all the times women interact

1264
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 2: in the Prequels trilogy, again, that's on our YouTube channel.

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01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 2: You can find the link to that at link tree

1266
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: slash Bechdel Test. Either way, we concluded that the entire

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01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 2: trilogy does not pass the Bechdel test, and even if

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01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 2: it does kind of technically pass, it still basically doesn't,

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01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: at least not spiritually. So if you can believe it,

1270
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 2: a Star Wars movie doesn't pass the Bechdel test. However,

1271
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 2: our nipple scale where we rate the movie or the

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01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 2: trilogy on a scale of zero to five nipples, examining

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01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: it through an intersectional feminist lens. Based on everything you

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01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 2: heard us talk about in the live show, I'm going

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01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 2: to go ahead and give this a half nipple. Yeah,

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01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 2: I don't think it deserves any more than that.

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01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 5: I'm also going to give it a half nipple in

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01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 5: spite of the fact, as I talked about in the

1279
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 5: you know, all the things I like about the prequels

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01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 5: are not text to the Prequels.

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Speaker 4: So shout out to the various authors.

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01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 5: That have in the you know, two decades since these

1283
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 5: movies came out, fleshed characters out that people were interested in.

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Speaker 4: George Lucas did not do that.

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01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 5: And you I don't believe that he would have ever

1286
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 5: intended that.

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01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 4: So sorry, Peapa, It's going to.

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01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 11: Be a half nitbowl.

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01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And then we ended the live show with

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Speaker 2: a I would say very well choreographed lightsaber battle between

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01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 2: the two of us. It was special effects, amazing technology

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01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 2: high and by that visualized stunning. We looked great. We

1293
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 2: had lightsabers and we found out that they went beer

1294
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: and everything. So if you if you were there, you

1295
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 2: can attest that it was earth shaking.

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Speaker 4: It was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: It was in earth shaking, naboo shaking, tattooine shaking.

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Speaker 5: I could go on, namboo is never the same after

1299
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 5: what we did, which is just another reason to come

1300
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 5: to our live shows when we come to your town,

1301
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 5: which we very may well next year and absolutely with

1302
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 5: that in mind, if you are a fan of the

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01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 5: show and want more of the show and are not

1304
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 5: currently a member of our Patreon aka Matreon, we do

1305
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 5: tend to release tickets and show dates a little earlier

1306
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,799
Speaker 5: over on the Matreon to give matrons a first shot

1307
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Speaker 5: at getting tickets as well as often we will release

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Speaker 5: discount codes as well as if you come to our

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Speaker 5: merch table, which we run by ourselves diihy ever heard

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Speaker 5: of it. Matrons get bonus buttons at our merch tables,

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Speaker 5: So come and get some cool stuff that's at patreon

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Speaker 5: dot com slash bectel cast. Five bucks a month is

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Speaker 5: going to get you two bonus episodes, access to our

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Speaker 5: two hundred episode back catalog, and you know, access to

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Speaker 5: the community announcements and the community in general.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, and thank you again to everyone who came out

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Speaker 2: to the live shows on this tour. Thank you again

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Speaker 2: to the venues for having us. So shouts out to

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Speaker 2: the Fountain Square Theater in Indianapolis as well as Let's

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Speaker 2: Fest because our Indianapolis show was a part of Let's

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Speaker 2: Fest comedy festival, so thank you to them for having us.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to the Den Theater in Chicago, the Burr Oak

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Speaker 2: in Madison, and the Dudley Riggs Theater in Minneapolis. And

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Speaker 2: with that, should we go have another lightsaber battle where

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Speaker 2: we almost kiss, which is what happened on stage this time.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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Speaker 5: The cerbating allegations were not beating them.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye.

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Speaker 11: The Bechtel Cast is a production of iHeartMedia, hosted and

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Speaker 11: produced by Me, Jamie Loftus and.

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Speaker 2: Me Caitlyn Durrante. The podcast is also produced by Sophie Lichtermann.

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Speaker 11: And edited by Caitlyn Durrante. Ever heard of them? That's

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Speaker 11: me and our logo and merch and all of our

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Speaker 11: artwork in fact are designed by Jamie Loftis, Ever heard

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Speaker 11: of her?

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Speaker 2: Oh My God?

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Speaker 4: And our theme song, by the way, was composed by Mike.

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Speaker 2: Kaplan with vocals by Katherine Voskrasinski.

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Speaker 11: Iconic and a special thanks to the one and only

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Speaker 11: Aristotle Acevedo.

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Speaker 2: For more information about the podcast, please visit linktree slash

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Speaker 2: Bechtel Cast