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Speaker 1: This is the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Better than Most, Better than Most, Better than Most, Winner

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Speaker 2: took your Down?

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Speaker 3: You got real telling, Go concentrate on golf.

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Speaker 2: What's up everybody? And Welcome to the Action Network Podcast

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Speaker 2: presented by Bett MGM. The golf edition of course. I'm

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Speaker 2: Jason Sobole from Golf Bet. He is Justin Ray from

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Speaker 2: the twenty first group, and we have plenty to talk about.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to the Travelers Championship. We'll get to our

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Speaker 2: five questions of the week. I've got five questions related

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Speaker 2: to Justin. I's our old background, our old stomping grounds.

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Speaker 2: But first, let's review the US opened. John Brahm's first

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Speaker 2: career major championship comes from behind Bertie Birdie down the

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Speaker 2: stretch from great stuff, great theater, great drama at Torrey Pines,

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Speaker 2: Louis was dayson a Bride's paid once again, a sixth

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Speaker 2: career runner up. Finish Brooks fell off the pace, Bryson

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Speaker 2: fell off the base, Rory fell off the pace. Everybody

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Speaker 2: fell off the pace. There was some crazy stuff going

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Speaker 2: on on Sunday, so let's get into all of it.

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Speaker 2: Jay Ray, what's going on? How was the week for you?

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Speaker 3: It was great Sunday. At one point, most of the

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Speaker 3: metropolitan area of Greater San Diego was within three shots

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Speaker 3: of the lead. I don't know you were on site

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Speaker 3: all week, but there was a great there's a great

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Speaker 3: beer ad that Phil Nicholson had that came out where

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Speaker 3: he answers the phone and he rattles off all these

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Speaker 3: different names, nut nut, you old dog, and he'll anyway,

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Speaker 3: when you see it'll make sense. Then he rattles off

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Speaker 3: all the names. That was the names of half the

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Speaker 3: guys within two shots of the lead. At one point,

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Speaker 3: eleven names rattled up. Awesome finish. Unbelievable. I mean it

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Speaker 3: looked like everybody was involved with about nine holes to play,

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Speaker 3: and then the US Open broke out and everybody kind

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Speaker 3: of fell apart. I mean, Bryson shoots forty four on

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Speaker 3: the back. I can't remember ever a guy going for

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Speaker 3: back to back wins in the same major and putting

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Speaker 3: up Henry Aaron on the back. I just I don't

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Speaker 3: It's just unbelievable, really kind of unforeseen. There, I thought

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Speaker 3: Colin mor Kawa, I mean, he looked like he was

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Speaker 3: gonna win his second major in his seventh major start.

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Speaker 3: You would have been the first guy in the modern

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Speaker 3: era to ever do that. There was, I mean there

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Speaker 3: was in my research dig up notes mode. So it's

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Speaker 3: less exciting. But when there's like one or two clear

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Speaker 3: guys who look like they're gonna win, I can focus

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Speaker 3: on that and hammer at home.

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Speaker 2: I have no chance.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday, until about an hour left in the golf tournament,

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Speaker 3: there's a list of about twenty guys who might have

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Speaker 3: won that championship. So this is a sign of just

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Speaker 3: how exciting it was. John Brown, the first US Open

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Speaker 3: champion to birdie the final two holes since Tom Watson

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Speaker 3: thirty nine years to the day. Don't see it very often.

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Speaker 3: What an awesome finish. How was your week out in

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Speaker 3: San Diego? Man, The week was great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We had, by the way, people calling our radio

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Speaker 2: show today saying NBC didn't show enough Harris English. And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, because he wasn't in it until the

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Speaker 2: last two holes when he made bird He's like, You've

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Speaker 2: got to understand how the process of how this stuff happens.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing at some point on Sunday Harris English was

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Speaker 2: fourteenth place, there you go okay, you can't know. Like

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Speaker 2: early in the day, Hey, that guy, that one guy,

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Speaker 2: a bunch of shots early. I just it's weird how

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Speaker 2: it happens. My week was great out there, worked my

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Speaker 2: butt off, not complaining about it. Had a great time

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Speaker 2: doing a ton of radio stuff. We're doing the pregame

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Speaker 2: show every day, Me, Sleeves and McCord on the radio

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Speaker 2: for three hours every year.

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Speaker 3: There's a motley crew.

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Speaker 2: Boy. I can't believe we still have jobs because within

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Speaker 2: so within the first five minutes of the first show

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Speaker 2: that we all did together, McCord was speaking about players

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Speaker 2: trying to you really got to hear your short putts hard,

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Speaker 2: but that gets tougher as the scar tissue builds up

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Speaker 2: and you get older. He said, yeah, it's really hard

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Speaker 3: I have to give you my favorite mccordism. Then it

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Speaker 3: was like it might have been twelve thirteen years ago,

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, that's good. That's good.

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Speaker 3: Lot of color. You know. You know, Live is up

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Speaker 3: always enjoyed him, so I'm glad you got to spend

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Speaker 2: And he's an absolute gem. I mean, there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of stories that started, you know, back in sixty five,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just it's great. He's a legend. We had

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Speaker 2: a great time speaking of how crazy the final round was.

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Speaker 2: This was my this is my crazy meter, This is

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Speaker 2: out earlier. But Guido Migliazzi, great name, good dude, standing, spoke,

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Speaker 2: him for the radio coverage, and first I said, it

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Speaker 2: was awesome watching him fist pump his way around the

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Speaker 3: I mean fist pumps through the roof. Yeah, he is

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Speaker 3: fist pumps. Really. So, he's done a lot, broke it

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Speaker 2: He's done probably hour fifteen, hour and a half for

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Speaker 2: So the last question I asked him, I said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: next year. He goes, yeah, absolutely, fingers are crossed. Hopefully.

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Speaker 2: You know, I really loved it. My first major. I

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Speaker 2: want to get back in so that would be great. Well,

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Speaker 2: You've got a par five closing hole. Guys should be

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Speaker 2: able to burdy that. And so they're gonna come back

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Speaker 2: and knock him back down. He's gonna go from T

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Speaker 2: gonna have to work his way back into the US Now. No,

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Speaker 2: he's got the US Open and he's got the Master's

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Speaker 2: invitation for next year, which is less about Guido himself

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Speaker 2: and more about just how ridiculous that closing finish. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about Daytona five hundred with car rerecks everywhere.

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Speaker 3: There's six wide coming around turn four, Talladega. It was,

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Speaker 3: it was. It was a blast, man. It was a

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Speaker 3: really memorable championship. And Tory Pines, I mean, I know

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Speaker 3: course Okay, look, I'm not golf course guy. I'm definitely not.

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Speaker 3: What I was gonna say is that it delivered a

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Speaker 3: I end up associating golf courses in major championships. It's

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Speaker 3: not I'm not. I'm not an architecture guy. I just

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Speaker 3: am not. And so the championship itself is what I remember.

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Speaker 3: And we got another absolute classic Tory Pines.

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Speaker 2: I want to get to John Ramin a second, because

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Speaker 2: they're all sorts of narratives, but yeah, I wanted to

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Speaker 2: get to the golf cart. I get it. I'm not

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Speaker 2: an architecture geek it all. And I say that lovingly.

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Speaker 2: it's pretty good old Now that's a terrible hold. Why

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Speaker 2: because the bunkering does this forces your eye this side? Okay,

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Speaker 2: I played a course recently, Cchesi and so North Carolina

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Speaker 2: the first times I've looked at architecture that makes a

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Speaker 2: so I kind of understood, like from an architectural standpoint, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I get that Tory Pines is it's repetitive. While the

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Speaker 2: memorable holes. Quite honestly, I just watched the entire US Open.

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Speaker 2: I can remember every hole at TBC River Highlands for

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Speaker 2: the upcoming Travelers Championship way more than I can at

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Speaker 2: Tory South. But I don't think it's mutually exclusive. That hey,

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Speaker 2: it's a sort of uninteresting and non creative architectural golf course,

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Speaker 2: like most US Open venues are just par after par

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Speaker 2: more opportunity for leaderboard movement, which of course we saw

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Speaker 3: I'll give you two numbers to try to tie some

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Speaker 3: of those thoughts together, because I'm with you. I didn't

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Speaker 3: look up through four rounds. We kind of got carried

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Speaker 3: away with the finish there. But through three rounds, the

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Speaker 3: the smallest number through three rounds in the history of

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Speaker 3: the US Open. So that gives you an idea of

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Speaker 3: how many guys were involved. And then it came to

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Speaker 3: how you could gain strokes on the field in different

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Speaker 3: Scotty Scheffler, awful week off the tee like the polar opposite,

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Speaker 3: through three rounds. Contended. It was a lot of here

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Speaker 3: in the end, the guy who won was in the

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Speaker 3: and ultimately it gave us. It gave us. I mean,

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Speaker 2: It's eye Phil Nicholson. Can I ask you something? How

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Speaker 3: everybody out. You mentioned Fred Couples little while ago. It

429
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Speaker 3: got me thinking, you know, Louis who's tasting for years.

430
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Speaker 3: One of the things about him that was kind of

431
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Speaker 3: interesting and you know, maybe a little scary about his back.

432
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Speaker 3: He has a mattress ship to his hotel. If I'm

433
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Speaker 3: not mistaken, I don't know if he still does that, yeah.

434
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Speaker 2: Still doing it or not. Well, it's kind of like

435
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Speaker 2: the narrative around.

436
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 3: Him, but it's anecdotally. It's a guy who's battled back issues.

437
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 3: Is more the point than you mentioned Fred Couples. That's

438
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 3: kind of an apt comparison, maybe you know, one major championship,

439
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 3: syrupy swing back issues that may have forwarded him a

440
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 3: little bit. And Freddie got to number one in the

441
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 3: world and won on the PGA Tour a bunch of times,

442
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 3: won a Players Championship as well. But maybe there's a

443
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 3: little bit of a similarity there in terms of the back.

444
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Speaker 3: And you know, just that one major championship, when a

445
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: guy is talented as that, you think he might end

446
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Speaker 3: up with more.

447
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And one more note on Louis. I tweeted this out.

448
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,479
Speaker 2: It generated a lot of reaction, which I didn't realize

449
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: that it would, But as I was leaving the interview

450
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Speaker 2: area on Sunday evening, they were doing it. Ceremony might

451
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 2: be like pushing a little bit, but they had a couple,

452
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 2: you know, about five or ten people from the USGA

453
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Speaker 2: out there and they presented him with his runner up

454
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Speaker 2: medal and you know, kind of did this little like congratulations,

455
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 2: you are in the US Open in twenty twenty two

456
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 2: at the country club. We'll see you there. And they

457
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 2: had them like smile for the camera. And there are

458
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 2: a lot of players who were like, all, right, hand

459
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Speaker 2: me the medal, but I'm getting at it, like I'm

460
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 2: not taking pictures and shaking hands with people and stuff

461
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: like that. Louis did the whole thing, class grace, smile

462
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 2: on his face the whole time, and I had a

463
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Speaker 2: lot of reactions to it that people said, well, he

464
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Speaker 2: got his one point four mil, so you know he

465
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Speaker 2: should be happy about it. If you guys out there

466
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Speaker 2: really think that Louis Ustaysen, who just bought a farm

467
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Speaker 2: in o'kalla, Florida, that like is probably least concerned with

468
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: money of any player on the PGA Tour, quite honestly,

469
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: if you really think that he walked off that golf

470
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Speaker 2: course yesterday and said, eh, I got my seven figures,

471
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Speaker 2: I got my Money's I'm cool.

472
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Speaker 3: The people who think that, the people think that have

473
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Speaker 3: never competed for anything. It's just it's ridiculous. You know,

474
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Speaker 3: these are guys who this is craft. You want to

475
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 3: be the best at what you do, and that's why

476
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Speaker 3: you compete. I mean, obviously I gonna turn my nose

477
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 3: up at a million dollars, But I mean if you

478
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Speaker 3: if that's the reaction you get out of that, then

479
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 3: I don't know, tell you just didn't you know, you know,

480
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: you know, someone who likes to compete.

481
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Speaker 2: I don't know, right, I mean that's you know, in

482
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Speaker 2: the aftermath, you know, and on Tuesday, when he looks

483
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Speaker 2: at his bank statement and he sees the direct deposit

484
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 2: went through, he's like, cool, well, all right, I got

485
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Speaker 2: some money.

486
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Speaker 3: I think he actually even uses a bank ap like

487
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Speaker 3: even looks guys like that.

488
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Louis well enough, nice guy,

489
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Speaker 2: spoken with the whole bunch great, Like literally, he just

490
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Speaker 2: bought a farm in O'calla, o'kella is like it's farm country.

491
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Speaker 2: He's gonna play gold Olla, which is a great golf course. Yeah,

492
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Speaker 2: they're gonna ride. His kids are gonna ride horses. I

493
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Speaker 2: believe he's got three daughters and you know they're gonna

494
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 2: live out. But like, you don't move to O'calla, Florida

495
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Speaker 2: because you're like, yeah, man, you know, I'm gonna I'm

496
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Speaker 2: gonna build me a man, I'm gonna like spend my

497
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 2: money here. Like no, Like it's not like he's not

498
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Speaker 2: at the value.

499
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Speaker 3: The value in what he's doing for it doesn't come.

500
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Speaker 3: It's not because of that.

501
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, any other final thoughts on this weekend Bryson

502
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: Brooks Rory another.

503
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Speaker 3: You know, Brooks Kepka is a major championship machine. I

504
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: know he didn't win. And then Xander Schoffley, now five

505
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: for five top ten finishes in US Opens, the last

506
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Speaker 3: guy to start his career that way. Mister Bob Jones,

507
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 3: so pretty amazing start to his US Open career. Tough

508
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 3: that he didn't, you know, come through and get a win.

509
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: It would have been kind of storybook to get in

510
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: his hometown. But Xander's so talented that, you know, like

511
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Speaker 3: I said, keep putting yourself in that position. I'm the

512
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Speaker 3: kind of guy who says the numbers say you'll eventually

513
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Speaker 3: break through and get a win. He's still young, So yeah,

514
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Speaker 3: those are the two other observations I have.

515
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Speaker 2: Yeah, my two other favorite stories of the early week

516
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Speaker 2: Richard Bland, which great story may go right off into

517
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 2: the sunset as far as his elite level golf over

518
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: the next however many years he's forty years old, I

519
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: might not see him in this situation ever again. But

520
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: it was a really cool story to watch for two days.

521
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: And then I love the fact that Matthew Wolf is

522
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: not only back playing good solid golf again, but he

523
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 2: just spoke so well the entire time. I interviewed him

524
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Speaker 2: a bunch of times and like, he, yeah, I had

525
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: some issues and now I'm happy and I'm smiling. I

526
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: asked him at one point, I said, can you play

527
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 2: good golf and still feel bad about yourself? And can

528
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: you play bad golf and still feel good about yourself?

529
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Speaker 2: And He's like, yes, exactly. That's kind of what I've

530
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: been getting at, is that, yes, that can totally happen.

531
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Speaker 2: So just because people see me and I'm like, oh,

532
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: I'm on the PGA Tour and I'm making money, and

533
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 2: they think, wow, he must be really happy, That's not

534
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 2: necessarily the case. But I can now feel like I

535
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,719
Speaker 2: can come out here and shoot eighty and still be like, hey,

536
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: I gotta smile on my face. I'm having a good time.

537
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: So good to see him back in the fold. And

538
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: if you're gonna have some sort of mid life, mid

539
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: career crisis in the game of golf, do it when

540
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: you're twenty two and you know you can kind of.

541
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Speaker 3: Just I hope the saint mid career for Matt Wolf.

542
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 3: I hope we get to watch that funky swing for

543
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 3: about thirty more years.

544
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, yeah, so that was good. We'll get to

545
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: the Travelers Championship this week's event. Some of my favorite

546
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: people in the world who run that one, uh through Travelers,

547
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: So can't wait for that. But first let's get to

548
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Speaker 2: our five questions, and they are Travelers based in Connecticut.

549
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Speaker 1: Based five minutes. Five questions you never asked.

550
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you.

551
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: I get a little irritated when somebody called me away

552
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 3: from my golf.

553
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: This is five under.

554
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 2: You and I were both Connecticut residents for well. I

555
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 2: was kind of a long time. You were a little

556
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Speaker 2: less time, but you were still there for more than

557
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Speaker 2: three years.

558
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 3: I was there for about four years, three and a

559
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Speaker 3: half four years. I had a huge, big ass Chevy

560
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: truck that I drove around in Connecticut. That stuck out massively.

561
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Speaker 2: I was. I did fourteen years in Connecticut. That's fourteen

562
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 2: hard winters.

563
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 3: Man.

564
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Speaker 2: When you live in Bristol, Connecticut, they say you did

565
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: fourteen hard years.

566
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: Man. Essentially you're essentially a Florida boy. Now, I grew

567
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: up in Houston. I didn't know snow was supposed to

568
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: stay there that long. I was aware that existed, but

569
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Speaker 3: that's what they don't tell you is that the snow

570
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: doesn't it falls and then it just sits there for

571
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: months and months. And to most people who experience four

572
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 3: seasons growing up, you know that makes sense. You know

573
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: there's a that's what winter is. There are two seasons

574
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: where I come from, summer and hurricane, so there's you know,

575
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 3: we don't do snow. And I was a very rude

576
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: awakening for me in the winter of eight.

577
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: The worst days you got, you and I were probably

578
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: working the same the same shift, but in different eras

579
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Speaker 2: while we were at the four letter Network. The worst

580
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: part was coming into work at six o'clock. First of all,

581
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: it's dark already when you when you leave your house

582
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: at five point thirty, come into work at six. You

583
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: work all day, You get done with work at two

584
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: thirty three o'clock in the morning, you go out to

585
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: your car, and not only has it snowed three feet

586
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: in the eight hours and nine hours you've been at work,

587
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: but they've plowed and essentially now you've got a big

588
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: old Chevy truck that you can just drive right over it,

589
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: but they've essentially plowed you in, so you've got to

590
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: like dig yourself out. At three in the more that's

591
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: when you want to ponder your place in life. It

592
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: is at the ESPN parking lot in Bristol at three

593
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: twenty three in the morning on January seventeenth, when you're

594
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: like pushing snow away from your car just to back

595
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: out of the parking lot and drive, you know, forty

596
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Speaker 2: minutes on what should be a twelve minute drive back home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a lot of two AM ESPN News

598
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: in my life around there, around age twenty three. I

599
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: don't know if I would have made it this far

600
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: and made it through those years without PlayStation three and

601
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: NCAA football because I had a dynasty with the Missouri Tigers.

602
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: I was like recruiting my grandkids. I was so far

603
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: into the future. So yeah, a lot of not a

604
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: lot of socializing when you got the alarm clock to

605
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: wake up, set it three in the afternoon and four

606
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: in the afternoon, and then you know you're in there

607
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: all night. But it was a blast, learned a lot.

608
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: I love being there. I know you did too, So yeah,

609
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: it was an awesome experience. But yeah, that that time

610
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: switch and the cold and the snow, those are some

611
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: things I could.

612
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: Do with that.

613
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think I could do it again. In fact,

614
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: I know that I couldn't do it again. So but

615
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: we both lived not too far from this week's festivities,

616
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Speaker 2: and Cromwell and I understand that the following five questions

617
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: could be completely self serving for us and helpful to

618
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: only a very small population of our listenership, And for

619
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Speaker 2: that I offer the rest of you a very half

620
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: hearted apology in advance.

621
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Speaker 3: It was such a big state.

622
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, some guy right now is

623
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: listening who lives in New Mexico. That's like, cool, you

624
00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: guys are gonna break down stuff in Connecticut.

625
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: ESPN Cafeteria. It's get inside the Beltway here.

626
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: I do assume that we've got a lot of competitors

627
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: in the Travelers Championship field that are listening to the

628
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: podcast right now. So you're welcome for the upcoming questions.

629
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to it. Number one. And I

630
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: don't know whether to qualify this like just the central

631
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: part of the state in Connecticut, or if we're going

632
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: to the entire state. We can kind of translate however

633
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: we want. If you can only eat one thing this

634
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: week in Connecticut, what should it be.

635
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: One thing in Connecticut? Well, if you're going the whole state,

636
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: then it's Pizza New Haven. Right. That's the slam done exactly.

637
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: Where I was going with it when I said, do

638
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: we want to limit it to here or there?

639
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I made it. Definitely made a couple of tracks

640
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Speaker 3: down to New Haven. It's a little bit of a

641
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: drive from where I lived by the ESPN campus. But

642
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: if you're in Connecticut, I mean, that's that's the way

643
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: to go, right down around where Yale is. That that

644
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: pizza new Haven is. It's about as good as I've had.

645
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: I've never been to Italy or anything, but I mean

646
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan, really good.

647
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: I will shout out Jay Timothy's wings.

648
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh come on now, yeah fan dirt wings.

649
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 3: You get the dirt. So what they do they like

650
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: fry it, sauce it, and fry.

651
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: It again, double fry yep.

652
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. I mean it's like a I'm a

653
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: big wing guy. I don't know if you can tell

654
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: just looking at my general face and body, but but

655
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: I love chicken wings. Those are some of the best

656
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: I've ever had. They are awesome. That's a great shout

657
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: there at Jay Timothy's.

658
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 2: A couple of years ago covering the tournament, and we're backing,

659
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: like I think it was in the interview area, and

660
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm talking to Rex Hoggard from Golf Channel and a

661
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: couple other producers and I'm like, hey, we're all going

662
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: to J Tims. It's gonna be the best stuff you

663
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: ever had. And I said, yeah, so I'm telling the

664
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: exact same thing you just said. They double fry the wings.

665
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: They saw him up and there's a police officer just

666
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: staying right by security and he didn't even hear what

667
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: he heard, like the back end of the conversation, because

668
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 2: we'd kind of like walked towards him and all he

669
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: heard was like, double fry the wings. He goes, Oh,

670
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: you guys go to J Tim's tonight. So yeah, those

671
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: are definitely, I think, on top of the list. So again,

672
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: all the players playing the Travelers this week, it's about

673
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty minute trip, So.

674
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: Bring bring a whole crew. They'll bring and you can

675
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: get a butt literally a bucket, and then they flip

676
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: it over. It's a steam coming experience. Man, It's so good.

677
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: All right, if you can only number two, if you

678
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: can only gamble at one casino in Connecticut, which one

679
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: should it be?

680
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: Well, there's only it's just Foxwoods right in are there

681
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: are more and then there's onesan Mohegan. I'm sorry Mohegan.

682
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I mean we're gambling podcast. I don't

683
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: know if you had a lean on the better place

684
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: to game.

685
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't play a ton of cards when

686
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: I was when I was a bad age. I play.

687
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: I can play a little bit more now, but yeah, no,

688
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: you look, what is there to do on the weekends

689
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: when you work at ESPN and you're in your twenties

690
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: and single. You can go to New York and go

691
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: to Boston, you can go to Mohegan. So, I mean,

692
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: we definitely did that a few times back in the day.

693
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: Me and Buddy still of stories that we tell where

694
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: we would hit rush hour traffic going through Hartford at

695
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: eight o'clock in the morning coming home from Mohegan Sun.

696
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, there was h there was a lot of that.

697
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: By the way, I just played left center right with

698
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: my kids and my wife. Have you ever played that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

699
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: I like all I'd never even heard of it before.

700
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: We did it with more money than I was playing

701
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: with with my kids on a Buddies golf trip a

702
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: few weeks ago, and as soon as we did, like,

703
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: you can't screw it up, like you're basically roll dice

704
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: and they get passed around and you can you you're

705
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: either giving money or taking money, and I mean you can't,

706
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: like there's no strategy involved. So it's a great Hey,

707
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: it's it's late. We've had a couple of drinks. I

708
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: don't want to have to sit there and think about

709
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: am I the big blind to the small blind? And

710
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm a who's doing this? Whose deal is it? And

711
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: all that? Like I want a game where we can

712
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: gamble but not have to think about anything. It's left center.

713
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: Right fantastic, I mean yeah for sure. And it's a

714
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: Google the game if you're listening. It's it's fun, good

715
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: party game. We definitely have played at cookouts at my

716
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: in law's house. You can get like you're you know,

717
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 3: like my nephew's like thirteen now he plays too. It's

718
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 3: simple enough for that too. It's a yeah, it's good.

719
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: It's one the kids can play, but chips, you put

720
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: quarters whatever, and then I'll play with real money. Yeah,

721
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: you can definitely play that real with real money as well.

722
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: And it's completely down to the luck okay question.

723
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: He's my nephew. A valuable life lesson about challenging his uncle.

724
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: If you can only play golf at one course in Connecticut,

725
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: where should it be.

726
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 3: The place where I shot Look, this isn't a good

727
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 3: golf answer, but the place where I shot the best

728
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 3: round of my life. Oh, eight years ago, I shot

729
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: a seventy three at Tungsus, which is a little public,

730
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: fun course. Not very difficult obviously if I went out

731
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: seventy three, but I had a chance coming down the

732
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: stretch to shoot par even break par. And I think,

733
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: like bogie like two of the last four holes mister

734
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: putt for seventy two. But that's where I'm picking. But

735
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: it's nostalgic and selfish because you know a lot of

736
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: good court, little fun public courses in the area end

737
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: of the summer. And I mean, I know I played

738
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: tungs a lot. There's a course right by ESPN that

739
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: wasn't great hawks landing, but it was cheap and for

740
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: someone who didn't have very much money, it was the

741
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: great place to go and go either walk around eighteen.

742
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: So a lot of good, lot of good sneaky good

743
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 3: golf courses in the area.

744
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: My my answer is Tower Ridge, which is where I

745
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: played most of my golf when I was up there.

746
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: The problem is that if you're there this week and

747
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: you'd like to go play some golf in Connecticut area,

748
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: maybe we're taking a little trip and you're like, hey,

749
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: we go to the Travelers, but I'm going to play

750
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: some golf in the mornings. It's no longer a golf course,

751
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: but I still recommend going there and play. It's been

752
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: out of business for four years, maybe three years.

753
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: It's just I'm showing my age.

754
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: At the time I went back and played, I mean,

755
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: it was probably one of the last rounds there because

756
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: the place was just it was just dirt. That was

757
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: a big dirt patch and it was It's a shame

758
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 2: because it was a really good golf course back in

759
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: the day that I would play with all my buddies,

760
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 2: all my buddies who back in the day were pas

761
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: together and working six to three and you wake up

762
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: at nine in the morning, go play thirty six and

763
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 2: have a whole lunche in between. And all those guys

764
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: like big time ESPN executives now, which is crazy to me.

765
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: You know, guys who are like producing College Game Day

766
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: and you know, producing or running the SEC network and

767
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: ACC network stuff like that. So but yeah, but I

768
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: still I have no idea what's there. It's probably condos

769
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: and houses and stuff, but just make your own holes, like,

770
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: just go play it anyway. So there's a decent chance.

771
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 3: The courses I listed aren't even there anymore. I hope

772
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 3: TUNKS is still there. It was a big facility, so

773
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 3: I think it was pretty successful there.

774
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: All right. Number four. If you can only play one

775
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: hole at TBC River Highlands, which would it be? And

776
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: I am thinking specifically of if you're going to go

777
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: crash the festivities this week, guy, Yeah, I pick number thirteen.

778
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 2: At Tory Point, we was hitting sideways.

779
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 3: He just went out there to you know.

780
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: You think he wasn't Was that a rant architectural indignities

781
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: of Tory Pines.

782
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: I don't think, you know, I don't think that was

783
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: high on his list. I don't think he had done

784
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 3: you know, the digging on you know, strokes gained approach

785
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: and the significance of it that week. I really think

786
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: that maybe he had, you know, eaten thirteen stell Artois

787
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: and that was the that was maybe his case that

788
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: Bryson had that ball up against at one point in

789
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: the round. That was you know, how do.

790
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: You sneak a golf club into a PGA Tour event,

791
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: into a major championship?

792
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: That was an excellent question. I do not know.

793
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: There were security checks, and I wouldn't go to security

794
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: every day, Like if I had a golf club bit

795
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: with me, they'd be like, no, you can't bring golf

796
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: club and you'll confirm this.

797
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 3: But the security of the US Open traditionally is fierce.

798
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: I'm talking like even like in twenty fourteen. I remember

799
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: at Pinehurst, like we were driving the media a lot

800
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: and they were checking our cars with like dogs and

801
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: stuff like. It was it's typically like locked down. So

802
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: it was kind of surprised to see. That's a great

803
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: question though, but how do you get a golf club

804
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 3: out there?

805
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: My favorite one years ago, I have sunblock in my bed.

806
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: I have like the spray sunblock sunscreen. Yeah, and it's

807
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: whatever a US Open. I can't remember what it was,

808
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: but it was like one hundred degrees out middle June

809
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 2: as No, it was like the airport, They're like, no liquids,

810
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: we it's sun I'm going to cover a golf tournament.

811
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Now? Can't bring it in?

812
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: You can they go? You can use all of it

813
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: if you'd like right now, Like I don't want to

814
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: spray an entire bottle of sunscreen, like like it was

815
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: completely irrational.

816
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what do you like?

817
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: No, I'm working here, this is my office for the week.

818
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: I can bring in a liquid and the liquid is

819
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: not like I'm not bringing in bottles of tequila. I'm

820
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: bringing in sunblock.

821
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: Maybe that tequila was approved. He had two bottles of tequila.

822
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: You might have been able to pay off the pay

823
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 3: off the guy. He'll let you bring the other one in.

824
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: It's fair, that's very fair. I'm taking fifteen the reason so.

825
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: You can't just willy nilly, you know, bring your sunscreen in.

826
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: All right, if you're gonna go crash the course this week.

827
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: And oh the drivable part yeah, fifteen, Yeah, the.

828
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: Drivable part four, which I know for the pros is

829
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,479
Speaker 3: really it's not really a risk reward decision at this point.

830
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: Everyone I think it's it's always at this point. It's

831
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: like ninety five ninety six percent of players go for it. Yeah,

832
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: but for me, he doesn't hit it as far then

833
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: I think that'd be that'd be the one I play.

834
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: It's kind of a fun hole. I think it's water

835
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: left right where that's the mist. It's really penalizing, so

836
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: naturally my shoulder would fly open and I would pull

837
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 3: it into the water. But I'd have fun doing it.

838
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: I played media day there a bunch of times. But

839
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: the year after Stuart's sink one and Stuart sink, basically

840
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: instead of going to like play golf with a bunch

841
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: of other people, like hung out on the fifteenth hole

842
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: all day. And so we get up there, and yes,

843
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: we're playing one or two t boxes off from where

844
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: the pros play. But I get up there, I'm like, hey, Stuart,

845
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: watch this, and I knock one on the green. I

846
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: mean I've got forty five, but I'm like, hey, I

847
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: got it on. I crawled it on to the front

848
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: of the green. So it's like, wow, what a great shot.

849
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: That was really good. I'm gonna hit one if you

850
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: guys want yeah, yeah, well yeah, put on the green

851
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: Steward if you want to be maybe not like seven

852
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 2: feet in one. All right, cool, thanks, you asked for it.

853
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 3: There's a great spot the travelers if you're going out

854
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: there this week. It was my go to for years.

855
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: I think it's if there's a hill behind around like

856
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 3: fourteen Tea. I want to say, where there's like you

857
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: got a beer tent nearby snack bar and then the

858
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: hill kind of you're able to see like three or

859
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: four holes at once. It's a really good spot. It's

860
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: around fourteen fifteen. You'll know what I'm talking about if

861
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: you head out there, great viewing spot. That was where

862
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 3: I made a bee line four every year when I

863
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 3: went out as a fan.

864
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: I think fourteen Green.

865
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it's in that it's been a few years

866
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: since I've been out there, but if you're in that

867
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: region you see a nice big hill with you know,

868
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: friendly beer tent next.

869
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: To it's honestly, it's one of my favorite golf courses

870
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: on tour, especially to like just walk and like watch

871
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: golf out. So yeah, yeah, I can't wait. By the way,

872
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a story. We're getting deep into the

873
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: TBC River Highlands stories, but my favorite story from TV

874
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: Sever Highlands. I was working for Golf Channel at the

875
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: time and Jarby Davis who's now my bossau at a

876
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: serious XM. But he was at the time producing Morning Drive,

877
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 2: and he sent me to Travelers and he said on Wednesday,

878
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: he said, look, I want you to do something fun

879
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: from the golf course, said, you know, do something with

880
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: one of the celebrities, Like I don't want to just

881
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: not just like a two minute interview. Hey, you like golf,

882
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: it's like do something different, Like let's get something good

883
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: for the show. So Bill Murray's playing in it, and

884
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 2: I have this idea and I walk up to Bill

885
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: Murray on the range. I said, hey Bill, I'm Jason

886
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: with Golf Channel, and I don't have a producer. I'm

887
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: just kind of free willing. I've got one guy who's

888
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: a cameraman. He's gonna shoot it and that's it and

889
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 2: it's just me and go up to Bill Murray. I said, hey, Bill,

890
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 2: Jason with Golf Channel. I have this idea. Basically, I'm

891
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: gonna talk to you during the round. You have to

892
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: ignore me. He looks me, good, well, I can do that,

893
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: Like all right, cool, So I wait. We get about

894
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: four or five holes in and I walk up to

895
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 2: him and it sounded much funnier to me at the time,

896
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 2: and looking back, the whole premise probably wasn't the funniest

897
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: thing that Bill Murray's ever been involved in. But so

898
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: I you know, he teed off. I think it was four,

899
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: and I start walking down the fairway with him, said, Bill,

900
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 2: we want to do tonight? You wanna you wanna want

901
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: to go watch a game? You want to catch a movie?

902
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: You wanna go? Uh? Oh, we can go, you know,

903
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: we go out like it? Well, well, well I'll you

904
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: call me later. I'll call you, okay, cool? And he

905
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: he did just what he said he would. He ignored me,

906
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 2: And so a couple of holes later, I give him

907
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: a couple of holes and then do the same thing.

908
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: We go off to seven or eight and walk off

909
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: the tea Bucks said, hey, Bill, what are you thinking

910
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: for dinner tonight? You want to do pizza? Do chinese?

911
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: Oh?

912
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 2: We go out for steaks? All right, well we'll figure

913
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: it out. Yeah cool? All right? Good you telling me

914
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: as I'm telling the story right now, it's not nearly

915
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: as funny as I thought it was back then.

916
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: I'm wondering where you're going with this.

917
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: Well, so I said, I'm gonna do one more and

918
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: I just thought would be funny, like, hey, I got

919
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: Bill Murray without really getting Bill Murray. Then you know,

920
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: we'd show this like minute half a little montage of

921
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: me trying to get Bill Murray to hang out with

922
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: me and do stuff with me, and then we'd come

923
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: back and be like, I don't know what happened to Bill,

924
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 2: and he must have lost my number or something. Ah,

925
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: that'd because of I don't know. It's different, it's funny.

926
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: It's better than just hey, we're here with Bill Murray

927
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: at the Travelers Championship. And so you said.

928
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: Celebrity and Travelers Championship. I immediately just assumed that it

929
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: was gonna involve Boomer.

930
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: I've got those stories.

931
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 3: Hey, we know the King of Cromwell. Everyone has a Boomer,

932
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: some of better than others. Scott Van Pelts is excellent.

933
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: Yes, by the way, don't step on my fifth question.

934
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: I've got question number five coming up. We're this is

935
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: an interlude for question number four. So like thirteenth, fourteenth,

936
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do one more. I just need to get

937
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: one more take. So you got to him, Hey, Bill,

938
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: what do you think we should do? And Bill's walking

939
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: down the fairway, and this whole time I'm like, either

940
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: he's a really good actor, because I said, Hey, just

941
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: ignore me. And he's ignoring me, which is he has

942
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: not said a word to me the whole time, or

943
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 2: he's like really not into this. So I got my answer.

944
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: We're walking down I think fourteen, start walking and we're

945
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: walking down the fairway and he stops and he turns

946
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: to his PR person and he says, if this fucking

947
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: guy doesn't fucking leave me alone, right fucking now, I'm

948
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: walking off the fucking golf course.

949
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: There you go.

950
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 2: He got to the pond. Public apology to mister Murray

951
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: for everything I've done to ruin his pro am round

952
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: eight years ago.

953
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: It's funny, good work, Thank you.

954
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: I think we used it and that he was right.

955
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't that funny.

956
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: You know that can't all be winners? Can the.

957
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: I could point out to Bill, Hey, some of your movies,

958
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: you know, just didn't really stand up over the time.

959
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: Everything's been Caddy shocked Bill, all right?

960
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: Question number five I mentioned we both worked in DSPN.

961
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: If you can only meet one on air personality, if

962
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: you go to the Bristol studios this week, who should have.

963
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 3: Been only meet Is this like all time or I.

964
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: Mean, if you're I don't know these are hypothetical questions.

965
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: And you've got to be in Bristol, so that eliminates

966
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: some guys in La Scott Scott van Peldo I mentioned

967
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: is in d C.

968
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: Now. I thought you were gonna go my boy Stanford Steve.

969
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, man, one guy there right now. I'll tell

970
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: you somebody who is a great dude, who I've been

971
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: really happy to see his career grow, who's been there forever.

972
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: I've been watching him on Sports Center since literally I

973
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 3: was in elementary school. But Steve Leeve, he's an awesome guy.

974
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: He's I know, he got the Monday night football booth gig,

975
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: which was a huge, you know, that's an awesome obviously

976
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: achievement in broadcast and be able to get that. I'll

977
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: tell you a quick story about him. I was working.

978
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: I was the overnight Sports Center researcher my first like

979
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: three or four months there. I don't know what I

980
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: who I impressed to get that job, but I was

981
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 3: in way over my head. I was like twenty three

982
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: years old and I was the overnight researcher and the

983
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: anchors every night were Steve Leaving and John Anderson, and

984
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: you know, I had just had it was like one

985
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 3: of my fourth or fifth show by myself, and I

986
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 3: had the worst show. I like messed up two graphics,

987
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 3: like I've got copy wrong about the White Sox place

988
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 3: and the standings, very important things that I'm really stressed

989
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: out about as a twenty three year old research researchert ESPN. Anyway,

990
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 3: the next night, I go by myself on my night

991
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 3: off to watch baseball at a local one. I don't

992
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: think it was Jay Tamms, but another local wing place.

993
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: And I guess I don't know if Steve Herd be

994
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 3: talking about the night before whatever it was. He walks in,

995
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 3: sits down next to me. He didn't, He didn't say

996
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: he was gonna do it or anything, sat with me,

997
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: bought me dinner. We sat there, watched the Red Sox

998
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: or Yankees game, whatever's on in front of us. Bought

999
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: me wings. Nicest guy in the world. He's been on

1000
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 3: Sportsman for a hundred years, He's had three billion researchers

1001
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: like me. He had no need to do this, to

1002
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 3: be this kind to a kid who was stressed out,

1003
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: and you know, and he was great, So probably not

1004
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: the angle you thought I was gonna go. But he's

1005
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: an awesome guy. So if anybody you know, give the

1006
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 3: dude his flowers, you know, because he's he's a he's

1007
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: a he's a great he's a he's really good sports here.

1008
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 3: He has been a long time, and he's an even

1009
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: better guy.

1010
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, great answer, Love Levy. I haven't seen him that

1011
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 2: much over the last handful of years, but really, good dude.

1012
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: I'll go Boomer. Since you mentioned Boomer, I was his

1013
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: producer in a former life. I was Boomer's producer and

1014
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 2: one of my favorite. I got a lot of story.

1015
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I can go on and on, but yeah,

1016
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: I've got some.

1017
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: Good ones about him too, and really genuine.

1018
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 2: My brother who wound up working at ESPN. He's eleven

1019
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: years younger than me. So I'm twenty four to twenty

1020
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: five and producing Boomer's two minute drill that day for

1021
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: sports and my brother's what thirteen years old, and he's

1022
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: walking around the building with me. He hasn't said a

1023
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: war minute drill. Yes, five and a half. My brother

1024
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: hasn't said a word. He's like intimidated, and you know,

1025
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: Boomer of course is like super nice to him and

1026
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: talking to him. My brother hasn't said anything the whole day. Finally,

1027
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: it's like we're six hours into it. He said, mister Berman,

1028
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: I have a question. So, yeah, of course, what's your question?

1029
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: What is it? How come you call it the two

1030
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,479
Speaker 2: minute drill when it's like six and a half minutes long.

1031
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: I swear I didn't.

1032
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: I hadn't heard this before, but I made that quip.

1033
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: A minute you knew it was coming. Boomer looks at him,

1034
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: He goes, eh, we got a lot of timeouts. Oh,

1035
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: he's the best. He honestly is the absolute best. I'll

1036
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: still get random text messages from Boomer just like, Hey,

1037
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: so Travelers like that. It's basically the text message is

1038
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: like in his voice. It's perfect.

1039
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: You have to read it that way. Yes, it's just

1040
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: part of it.

1041
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, let's get to this board here at

1042
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: the Travelers Championship. As we've thoroughly neglected ninety nine percent

1043
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: of the population that cares nothing about all our old

1044
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: Connecticut stories. But no kidding, Raced is your tournament favorite

1045
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: at twelve to one, followed by DJ at thirteen, Patrick

1046
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: can't Way at sixteen, Paul Casey at eighteen, Books kept

1047
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: it at eighteen, Brian Harmon at twenty, Patrick Read at

1048
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 2: twenty two, Scotty S. Sheffler at twenty five, Abram Answer

1049
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: twenty eight, twenty Feen now twenty eight, Kevin Strillman at thirty,

1050
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 2: Niemi at thirty five, se Wo Kim at thirty five,

1051
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: Matthew Wolf thirty five is a strange, strange board. It's also,

1052
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: by the way, for an event that literally was almost

1053
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: off the schedule. This is years ago. This is two

1054
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: thousand and six, two thousand and eight. Andy Beset and

1055
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: the people travelers like ripped it from the jaws of defeat.

1056
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: I mean it was it was maybe going to turn

1057
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 2: into a Champions Tour event, but it was off the schedule,

1058
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: and they came in they said, here, we'll throw some

1059
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: money at it, we'll do some things with charity, we'll

1060
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 2: get the community involved.

1061
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: And now when we got concert it's yes, the crowds

1062
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 3: are always great. It's it's really well run. It's a

1063
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 3: fun fan experience.

1064
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 2: The area needs that. There's no I mean, there's the

1065
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: Hartford Yard Goats, there's the wolf Pack, you know, but

1066
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: it's not there's not big time. There's big time sports fans,

1067
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: a lot of whom are from New York, are from Boston,

1068
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 2: from New England. They need something there and this kind

1069
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,479
Speaker 2: of fulfills that a little bit. They've they've gone from Hey,

1070
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: we got it back, you know, the little tournament that

1071
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 2: could got it back on the schedule too.

1072
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1073
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 2: We got Bryce and we got dj we got Cantley

1074
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: Common like Brooks. Oh yeah, Brooks is here too. I

1075
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: mean wow, Like never and I've thought that this would

1076
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 2: turn into I thought, you know, okay, they can sustain

1077
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 2: a nice little event in the heart of Connecticut. But wow,

1078
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: I mean it's like they're getting these guys off the

1079
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: US Open. I mean, these guys are yeah, are flying

1080
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: on charter flights to Connecticut.

1081
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 3: From San Diego.

1082
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, never thought that was ever going to happen.

1083
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: So really good feel dot where you're looking from the

1084
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: top of this board right here.

1085
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: Uh So it's interesting looking statistically at the things that

1086
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 3: have significant on this golf course, it's kind of hard

1087
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: to extract any great information. So the average strokes gain

1088
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 3: rank of winners on this at this tournament in twenty ten,

1089
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 3: it's actually kind of down across the board in terms

1090
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 3: of comparing to the PGA too or average. There's nothing

1091
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 3: that really sticks out. Approach play is actually significantly less important.

1092
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: Part of the reason of that is from twenty sixteen

1093
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: to twenty twenty, more than six thousand approach shots at

1094
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 3: this tournament from fifty to one hundred and twenty five yards.

1095
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 3: You got a lot of short approaches, a lot of

1096
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 3: wedges into greens. Only two PGH Tour courses had more

1097
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: in that space, and Pebble Beach the shortest golf course

1098
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: basically in professional golf, and Silverado. So you're gonna have

1099
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: a lot of shots from fifty to one to twenty five.

1100
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 3: It's so there's an interesting mix of guys who've had

1101
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: a lot of success here, guys who hit it a

1102
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 3: mile and aren't able to hit their wedge as well

1103
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 3: and win that way. But I mean, kN Duke won

1104
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 3: this golf tournament in his late forties, Corey Pavin almost

1105
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: won it the year, Bubba Watson won it in twenty ten.

1106
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a really interesting dichotomy of players all

1107
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: over the board, which is a long way of saying

1108
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 3: this is a tough tournament to pick. I mean, you know,

1109
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 3: you got to like about sixty three holes of what

1110
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 3: Bryce and the Shambeau did last week. Dustin coming off

1111
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: a win here last year. Interestingly enough, DJ drove it

1112
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 3: horribly in this tournament last year. He was almost like

1113
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: fiftieth and strokes came off the tee and he won,

1114
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: which is really interesting considering what we know Dustin Johnson for.

1115
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 3: And then a guy who I probably like most of

1116
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 3: the top of the board is gonna be Patrick Cantley

1117
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: had an awesome It was a six here is an

1118
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: amateur ten years ago almost hold.

1119
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: Out on nine for with his last hole for a

1120
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 2: fifty nine. Yeah.

1121
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 3: The last five years he's second in scoring average here

1122
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 3: to Paul Casey, who's fourth on the board. I think

1123
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: can't lie is probably where I go here a few

1124
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: weeks after he's one of the memorial Wonder what you

1125
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 3: like at the top.

1126
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So, first of all, Cantley is a fade for me,

1127
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 2: and I didn't look at the final stats from Torri

1128
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: but and I get it, he just won, and I

1129
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: get that I'm putting myself out there for ridicule. But

1130
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 2: Patrick Cantley's putting stroke to me, looks absolutely atrocious. Right now.

1131
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 2: He's bringing this putter head lead, but he's getting that

1132
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: putter head back eighteen inches, completely de selling an impact

1133
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: and it's like, ye, like I don't even want to

1134
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: watch it, Like yeah, with a little it can still

1135
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: go in, and it goes in, and when it goes in,

1136
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 2: you're like you're kind of surprised that it goes in.

1137
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: And when it doesn't go in, you're like, oh my god,

1138
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: that looks awful. And I get it, Like he wasn't

1139
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: putting much differently two weeks ago and he won. So

1140
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: I I completely un understand that my eyeball test is

1141
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: does not hold any weight against the analytics and the

1142
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: data and everything else that we have these days. But

1143
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: I just don't want a part of him when he's

1144
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: putting like that just looks so bad to me.

1145
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: So I'm ignoring the visual aspect. And I mentioned the

1146
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: statistic about the shots from fifty to one twenty five

1147
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,479
Speaker 3: can't licensed the beginning of the last season, is among

1148
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: the leaders in scoring when he's in that situation fifty

1149
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 3: to one hundred and twenty five yards away from the hole.

1150
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: So I think maybe you'll put himself in enough that

1151
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 3: putting stroke doesn't it's not too nervous. You can get

1152
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 3: it to four feet three feet, you know, with those

1153
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 3: those close approaches. So I still kind of like him

1154
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 3: statistically going into the week.

1155
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find the find strokes gained from Tory

1156
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: Pines right here. You probably have it.

1157
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 3: I'm not looking at it right now right away, I

1158
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 3: will say too, the guy at the top of the

1159
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 3: board has a lot of really impressive numbers in his

1160
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 3: turn for the last few years, thirty seven under part

1161
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 3: of the last three years and the Travelers best of

1162
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: any player. Paul Casey's second at thirty five under five

1163
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: point two birdies are better per round for Bryson at

1164
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 3: the Travelers the last three years. That's the best of

1165
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 3: any players. So he's got some good, some good numbers

1166
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: going in for this tournament terms of past history. And

1167
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 3: if you just ignore the forty four he had on

1168
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 3: the back nine at Torrey Pines, you know you'd be

1169
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 3: flying high here with the guys at the top of

1170
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 3: the board. But I can't lay a little bit more

1171
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 3: with his value at sixteen to one more.

1172
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: So, all right, I kind of I still like Casey again.

1173
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: I actually think Casey coming off of Major should play better.

1174
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: I don't know why I keep going back to the

1175
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 2: Casey well time after time, but I still like it.

1176
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: By the way. Brian Harmon is one of those numbers

1177
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 2: that you stare at it and you look at wait,

1178
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 2: he's shorter odds than Patrick Reid and Scotti Scheffler and

1179
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 2: answer and final and Neieman like why, And then you

1180
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: start it long enough, You start it long enough, you're like,

1181
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. Somebody knows something I don't know, so

1182
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: maybe I should just play him this week, even though

1183
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: that doesn't make any sense.

1184
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 3: Tied for third and birdie average of this tournament the

1185
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 3: last three years. Nearly a few years ago with Bubba

1186
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 3: Watson won in a month soon I think it was

1187
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 3: like twenty seventeen that happened. Has got some good history

1188
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 3: of his golf course. You know, left he's succeeded in

1189
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: the past here too. I don't know if it's something

1190
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 3: to do with shot shape or whatever it is, but

1191
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 3: you know, with Bubba breaking through getting his first win,

1192
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: winning here twice, Harmon's nearly one here, you know some

1193
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 3: interesting history there with left handed players.

1194
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: Honestly, most of my favorite players here in this mid

1195
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,959
Speaker 2: tier Kegan Bradley up been waiting for him to pop

1196
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: if he puts pretty well, which he usually does. In

1197
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: the New England area. I mean, this is, you know,

1198
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 2: sort of a home game for him, going back to

1199
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 2: New England, has a lot of fan support. He's forty

1200
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 2: five to one this week, Bubba Watson. Look, I get

1201
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: the whole course history thing, Brian Harmon's twenty to one,

1202
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: Kevin Struelman's thirty to one. What I don't get is

1203
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 2: if they're twenty to one and thirty to one, why

1204
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 2: is Bubba Watson, a three time champion fifty to one

1205
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: with you for a few days. That's a big number

1206
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: for Bubba. And then the two guys that I had

1207
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 2: targeted for a while. Justin Rose was terrible last week

1208
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: when seventy eight to seventy seven at Tory, a former

1209
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: champion there at the Farmers and missed the cut by

1210
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: a mile. I went back and look, Justin Rose tends

1211
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 2: to bounce back really quickly. He had no form. He

1212
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 2: was off for five weeks after withdrawing from the API

1213
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: and was thirty six hole leader at the Master's finished

1214
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: in seventh. Then he missed the cut at Tampa and

1215
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: finished eighth at the PGA. Well, now he's coming off

1216
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: a badly miscut at Tory, and so I just think

1217
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: conventional Wisdom says, all right, well, Faden, once again, he

1218
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: just tends to bounce back from these things. And I

1219
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: liked him going into Tory, and so I still like

1220
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: him now. Fifty five to one. I think it is

1221
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: a huge number on Justin Rose. I don't feel great

1222
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: about it, but I'm not really sure. I like anybody

1223
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: else much better. And then Ricky Fowler announced on Monday

1224
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: that he and his wife Allison are do with the

1225
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: couple's first child later this year. So congratulations to the

1226
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: Fowler family. And I think Ricky's going to start playing

1227
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: some really good golf. I like him to be in

1228
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: the mix. He's seventy to one. Not sure I'm taking

1229
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: him outright, but for a top five, top ten, I

1230
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: think he's a.

1231
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 3: Nice play, some good value. I I know, I'm with

1232
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 3: you on the Rose number. At fifty five to one,

1233
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 3: that's exorbitant. I mean, that is a huge, huge number. Fowler.

1234
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: I think basically the last time we saw him was

1235
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: when he contended the PGA Men's the last time he

1236
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 3: really you know, got to watch Ricky play, and he

1237
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: looked like a new man, you know, looked like somebody

1238
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 3: who's ready to turn the corner.

1239
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 2: So was the top ten memorial too?

1240
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 3: Maybe he was? Was he top ten? The more I

1241
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 3: got the order of it switched up in my head.

1242
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 3: I think there's been a lot of golf here in

1243
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: the last uh last five six days. But no, I

1244
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 3: do like I do like that value as well.

1245
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: Cameron Smith, he went PJ eleventh memorial, sorry.

1246
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 3: Eleventh of memorial. Cameron Smith is interesting to me as well.

1247
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: At fifty to one. I think he missed the cut

1248
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: at Torrey Pines last week, snapped. His streak of made

1249
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 3: cuts in major's is one of the longest going. But

1250
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 3: you know, guy was such an enormously high ceiling. You

1251
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: know he can succeed in an the golf course. So

1252
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 3: and with his short game, you know, around here, I

1253
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 3: think it's going to be very helped. So yeah, I'm

1254
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: kind of with you. I like a lot of the

1255
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 3: value a little bit lower down the board. I tend

1256
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 3: to see a little bit more. You know that Rose

1257
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 3: Pick I like Fowler is a good one too.

1258
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: Anybody further down. I'll give you a couple of names

1259
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 2: again for different platforms, not necessarily just outrights, but top tens,

1260
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: top twenties, dfs plays. Adam Long is starting to play

1261
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 2: some good golf. Twenty six are better his last couple

1262
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: of starts. He's a streaky type player. I think he

1263
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: can get something going this week. Harry Higgs. We've seen

1264
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: Higgs play well recently. He was top five at the PGA.

1265
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: Aaron Wise. I'm not sure if it's a great course

1266
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 2: for him, but I'm waiting for Wise to pop really

1267
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 2: soon here. I think he's going to win something, so

1268
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: he could be this week. And then two other names,

1269
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: Francesco Molinari starting to play some good golf. This should

1270
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: be a really good golf course for him and Taylor

1271
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 2: gucc who you talked about those scoring clubs, those wedges

1272
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: into the greens here. He's a very good mid and

1273
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: short iron player. So I think Gooch could have a

1274
00:59:59,280 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: nice week as well.

1275
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 3: Not too far down the board, but kind of a

1276
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 3: place where I don't expect to see him. A guy

1277
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Speaker 3: who's won on this golf course before. Mark Leishman doesn't

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Speaker 3: have a top twenty finish since the Masters, but I

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Speaker 3: think it's seventy to one. There's a lot of value

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Speaker 3: there for him for a top ten, top twenty, maybe

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01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 3: not necessarily a win, but he's got good memories there

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Speaker 3: in terms of all the success he had. I let

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Speaker 3: everyone astray with Carlos Ortiz last week. I mean I

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Speaker 3: was really high on him in terms of value, how

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Speaker 3: we had played at Tory in the past. Let's go

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Speaker 3: back to the well again. Let's see maybe Carlos can

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Speaker 3: bounce back and have a good week. Why not just

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Speaker 3: let's just double down like it's a bad night at

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Speaker 3: the at the tables and I'm just trying to get

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Speaker 3: back to even. But Adam Scott is seventy five to one.

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Speaker 3: These are really these are strange odds. These these really

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01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 3: are off the board to me as well. Adam hasn't

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Speaker 3: had a great season, but at that value, he's still

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Speaker 3: Adam Scott. So and a guy you mentioned earlier, a

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Speaker 3: guy who's won on this golf course, is having a

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Speaker 3: renaissance season, is a two time winner on tour this year.

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Speaker 3: Stuart Sink is one hundred to one. I think that's

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Speaker 3: there's some value there in that. There's a lot of

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Speaker 3: some more interesting names there. Adam Hadwin another one one

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01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 3: hundred to one. Kevin is a good one.

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Speaker 2: I can get talked into Hadwin Rogers playing some good golf.

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Speaker 2: Now two hundred to one.

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Speaker 3: That's that's a crazy number for him too, so, but

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Speaker 3: the Leashman number really surprised me at seventy to one

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01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 3: for a guy who's won here in the past, you know,

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01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 3: to finished type for the Masters, hasn't played great since then,

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01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 3: but certainly has the capability to win again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I pretty much like fading the top of this board.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're playing DFS, you want to throw

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Speaker 2: a can't Lee or a Bryson or you know, even

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Speaker 2: a Scheffler whoever into a lineup. I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 2: I think mine are going to be mostly balanced through

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Speaker 2: that upper mid tier of players that I mentioned. Earliers.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of DFS, let's get to our lineup this week.

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Speaker 1: Want to be a DFS millionaire. You're just one lineup away.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go nose to nose with him, and you're

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01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: gonna play better than you ever dreamed of. God, God

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Speaker 2: damn it, that's what I demand of you.

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Speaker 1: So let's get drafting.

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Speaker 3: We're on the Cromwell.

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Speaker 2: We're on to Cromwell. If you want to kick it off, Yeah,

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01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: why not?

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01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 3: Let's go with looking at the board a guy you

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01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 3: like a lot this week, seventy nine hundred for Keingan Bradley.

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01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 3: I think that's a great value a guy like like

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01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 3: we've said in the past, and he's even admit as

1358
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 3: much if he's just flat even in strokes game putting.

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01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 3: He's one of the best ball strikers on the PGA Tour,

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01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 3: one of the best of the world. Just got to

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01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 3: put outage and he's gonna play well. So give me

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01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 3: Keegan Bradley at seventy nine hundred to get it started.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that a lot. The recent results for

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01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:12,479
Speaker 2: Taylor Gooch eighteenth of Memorial, fourteenth the Colonial, forty fourth

1365
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 2: at Kiwa, thirty ninth of the Nelson, twenty sixth at Quail,

1366
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: the guy is good, fifth of the players, twelfth at Riviera.

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01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: The guy's a really good player who gets absolutely no

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01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 2: love from sort of the mainstream media, mainstream marketplace. I'm

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01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 2: going Taylor Gooch at seven thousand on DraftKings. I think

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01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: it's a really nice play this week.

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Speaker 3: That's a great price for Taylor Gooch. I'm gonna go

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01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 3: now another guy who I think is an awesome value.

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01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 3: You mentioned him earlier, tied for eighth at the PGA,

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01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 3: eleventh of the Memorial. Ricky Fowler is a great price,

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01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 3: I think. I think this is a guy who's gonna

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01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 3: we know what his ceiling is. It's top ten player

1377
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 3: in the world, major championship contender, Ricky Fowler at seventy

1378
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 3: three hundred, who will not be surprised if he contends

1379
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 3: this week. Not at all.

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Speaker 2: There is there's no other week where I would ever

1381
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: suggest spending ninety four hundred in a DraftKings lineup on

1382
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 2: Kevin Streelman. I mean, I guarantee that Kevin Strelman's he

1383
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: loves muddle. Yeah, he loves fable that. I guarantee he's

1384
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 2: been in much more inferior fields and been one thousand

1385
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 2: dollars less on DraftKings. But the guy he won there

1386
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 2: in one of the most unbelievable back nine performances that

1387
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 2: we've ever seen, Like he just burnied everything seven.

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01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 3: Straight birdies to win. First guy in the history of.

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Speaker 2: The tour to do that second place last year, which

1390
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: I'd kind of forgotten about solo second last year. Spoke

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01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: of them the other day, and this is really I

1392
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 2: forget the core stuff. He's like got this zen aura

1393
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: around him right now. I said, like, Kevin, here like

1394
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: in a really good spot, because look, my family life

1395
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: is great. My wife's awesome, my kids are great. They're

1396
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 2: not traveling with me as much. But I'm forty two

1397
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: years old. Young guys call me Grandpa.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

1399
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 2: I'm kind of a mentor to a few of those guys,

1400
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: and I'm just out playing good golf. I'm just having

1401
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: a great time and life is really good and I'm

1402
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 2: just enjoying myself. I'm like, WHOA, that's like you can

1403
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 2: throw all sorts of strokes gained data at you. Can't

1404
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: strokes gained intangibles is really in Strilman's favor right now,

1405
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: and I just think he can show up at this

1406
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 2: golf course and play really well. And I think he's

1407
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 2: in a really good headspace right now.

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01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 3: I like it, Okay, ninety four hundred, Like you said,

1409
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 3: rare that you would spend that kind of money on

1410
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 3: him at any other golf course. But we've left up.

1411
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 3: We got eighteen four left for our last two spots.

1412
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick a guy who you really like this week.

1413
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 3: I like him a lot too on the other side

1414
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 3: of forty, but it's had a lot of great success

1415
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,959
Speaker 3: on this golf course. Best scoring average of any player

1416
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 3: the Travelers Championship the last ten years belongs to mister

1417
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 3: Paul Casey. So at ninety nine hundred, he's gonna be

1418
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 3: my last pick. That leaves you pretty nice junk of

1419
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 3: change for number six eighty five hundred.

1420
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: I actually thought as you were describing that, I thought

1421
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 2: you were gonna go with the other guy. Then I

1422
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: was gonna go Casey because it actually matches up pretty well.

1423
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 2: But you take Casey, I'll take the other guy, who

1424
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 2: happens to be Justin Rose at eighty four hundred. Again,

1425
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: I just there's tremendous value on Rose. Roses results are

1426
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 2: so weird right now. Okay, so you look at DraftKings

1427
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 2: when you click on the game log, they actually give

1428
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 2: you like kind of where he finished, which is a

1429
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: nice brown, not just missed cut. But so it was

1430
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 2: one forty second after two rounds of the US Open

1431
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 2: before that, he finished twentieth the Colonial, eighth at Kiowa,

1432
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 2: one thirty fourth in the valspar he missed the cut

1433
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: by six shots, seventh the Masters, withdrew from the API,

1434
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 2: fifty fourth at Concession in what like a seventy man

1435
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 2: field second when we played the Saudi Internet. I mean,

1436
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 2: it's like it's all or nothing, and a lot of

1437
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: that little bit, a lot of those good results are

1438
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: directly after a poor result. It's like he plays bad

1439
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 2: and then goes, oh, I shouldn't play bad anymore, let's

1440
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 2: play good, and he goes and just turns it around.

1441
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 3: So I'm going, justin Rose, I wonder if the injury

1442
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 3: still bothering him off and on what he withdrew from

1443
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 3: the Arnold Palmer, maybe that's to explain for a little

1444
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 3: bit of the inconsistency. Maybe not working on his game

1445
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 3: as much or I don't know. I don't want to speculate,

1446
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 3: but it's an interesting question maybe for anybody who's got

1447
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 3: an injury and you've got some kind of up and

1448
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 3: down results, you know, it's kind of natural to think.

1449
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 2: That I've spent some time with Justin Rose, there's been

1450
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 2: no sign of injury. That's a good quality time with him.

1451
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 2: Ache also, I believe that, and I heard the secondhand,

1452
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: so I hate them. But he has gotten one of

1453
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 2: those like the RV that like Jason Day and Jimmy

1454
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: Walker and those guys like travel in like that's like

1455
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 2: their home on the road. Justin Rose has gotten one

1456
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: of those and essentially made it his own equipment trailer

1457
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 2: or his own physio trailer. AND's that to like, Hey,

1458
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: I'm on the road. Let's like, you know, I can

1459
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 2: I can go out and train like you know, it's

1460
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 2: got like a whirlpool in it, it's got like weight

1461
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: since got all this stuff. I mean, if you talk

1462
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 2: about a guy who's committed to, hey, I'm gonna go

1463
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 2: out and play some really good golf over the next

1464
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 2: five or ten years and really finish my career off

1465
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: the right way. That's a commitment right there. I mean,

1466
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 2: that's more than Louis jus days and bringing a mattress

1467
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: to his hotel every week. You know. I like that. Okay,

1468
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 2: that's a line up Keegan Casey, Ricky Gooch, Rose Strelman,

1469
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: by the way I was looking. Also, if you don't

1470
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 2: like Gouc in that spot, Chez Revy, whose name I

1471
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: didn't mention, but the winner two years ago, and he

1472
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 2: is very quickly starting to trend in the right direction.

1473
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 2: He played really well at the Monday qualifier, the sectional

1474
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 2: for the US Open, got through, then finished fourteenth at

1475
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 2: Congree and then fortieth last week on a golf course

1476
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 2: that really didn't suit his game. This course suits his

1477
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 2: game much better. So I think chess Reevey is starting

1478
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 2: to trend in that right direction right now. So I

1479
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: like him as well.

1480
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 3: Have some good ball striking numbers early in the week

1481
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 3: at the US.

1482
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: Open too well. A lot of times Chez hits the

1483
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 2: ball that goes in.

1484
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 3: That's the goal.

1485
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you're supposed to do, but it doesn't

1486
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 2: always work out that way. Shout out to the nut

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01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 2: next day, Shout out to all the people that are

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01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 2: still doing hard time I'll think Connecticut in the eight six.

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01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 2: So love you, Justin, Ray, Jason Zobell, thanks for listening. Guys.

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01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: Good luck with all your Travelers Championship bets this week.

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01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 2: Here's hoping you hit the green. We're finished talking