WEBVTT - He Was the Quiet One—Until He Made Noise in Every Room 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.600 I'm Tamika D. Mallory and it shit Boy, my Son 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:05.519 it Generally we are your host of TMI. 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:09.560 Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, motivation and inspiration. 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:11.240 New name, new energy. 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:16.520 But same. How you doing today, Tamika D. 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:19.400 Mal good good, good good, Let's get it, Let's get it. 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:21.079 What's going on with you? 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:22.640 Oh? 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.880 Well, I think the only thing I could tell you 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:28.600 about what's going on with me is that as I'm 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:32.720 getting older, I have new pains and aches, and when 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.000 I get out the bed, I have to roll onto 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:39.080 the floor and stand up by limbs and then try 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:40.320 to like shake. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.760 It out my elbow herds. 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.040 I'm just trying to figure out what is forty five 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:47.040 because it's just. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.599 Total different feeling. That's all. That's all that's happening with 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:51.240 me right now. 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.440 I remember forty five. It was a different filming. 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.160 It was forty five. Was that you knew that you 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:57.080 was forty five? 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:57.600 I don't know. 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.000 I mean, you know, I believe I'm in good health, 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.400 you know, knock on wood. I've been exercised. I tend 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.480 to take care of myself. But you don't feel eighteen 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:07.920 no more. 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:09.199 You know what I'm saying. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.320 But I felt eighteen at thirty five, at thirty. 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.440 Five year because it's still that's still fresh, you know. 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.600 But after the forties you start the bone. You start 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.520 feeling little creaks and cracks inside your knees and you can't. 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.759 You ain't got the Megan knees, y'all. You can't bend over, 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:27.480 you can't. Yeah, it ain't none of that happen. It's 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.639 just like you can't do certain stretches, like things start hurting. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:35.240 You just sow for no reason, so you realize that 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:36.080 things are changing. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.880 No, Seriously, when I got up this morning, I literally 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:43.319 rolled onto the floor and then I was like my 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.120 back Now, I'm like, okay, I need to shift the 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.760 mattress because but the mattress is new. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.919 So I don't even know. I don't even know. 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.320 What's going on, like not new as in, well that's 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.920 why it's hurting your back or different parts of your 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.800 body because it's new and in these be broken in. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:05.280 It's broken in. It's it's been there for a while, 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:11.000 still place where it's right now, but it's not just there. 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:15.160 I mean, you know, I stay in everything from an 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:21.400 airport Marriotte to a rich Carlton to a Saint Regis 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:25.080 like I. We are always on the road, so we 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.160 all know what it feels like to travel. You feel 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:32.400 different beds, and you get different experiences in the different beds, 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.680 and sometimes you like, oh my gosh, that was the 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.320 best thap in my life. Sometimes even in a nice hotel, 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:41.200 you like, this bed is crappy. So I've experienced it all. 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.760 There's no reason why at every single level I have 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:51.560 the road onto the floor stretch all these places. This hurts, 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.800 that's going on. This isn't the same. 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:54.760 It's just not the same. 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.480 If it's forty five, it's very clear that it's not 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:58.880 the same as forty. 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.880 It's definitely different, you know. And it's Taurist month. 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:04.080 Yes, it's still your mind. 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:09.200 We're approaching my birthday. You know, I'm a man of 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.280 a particular age. I'm not going to say that right now. 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:13.680 I met a man that didn't want to. 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.640 I'm a man of a particular you know what I'm saying. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:21.079 I'm a grown adult man. You know, I'm reaching the midway, 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:25.520 the midway area of the I'm reaching. I'm almost at the. 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:31.560 Fifth floor, almost almost at the fifth floor. Nice. I mean, listen, 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.799 remember when you look like me. It don't matter. You 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:34.280 know what I'm saying. 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.760 That boy, that boy shop. Ain't he looking you know 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:38.400 what I'm saying. I don't look like what I've been through. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.320 But it's a blessing, man. So I'm just trying to 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:46.200 enjoy life, you know, enjoy my month, tourist month. So 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.040 many people's birthdays. I was just with my man yesterday 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:54.240 his birthday. Shout out to Aaron his birthday like Rahiem 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:59.600 Divine's birthday. Like it's so many people. That's Taurus. You 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.600 know what I'm say, saying that the best, the best. 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.440 Happy birthday, birthday it is. It's a lot of people's birthday. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:13.200 The tourists, our board chair, sister friend on the islets, 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:17.400 our birthdays, wellday, so many lot. It's a lot of 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:21.640 people who have birthdays and that are tourists. Y'all pretty 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.719 decent people. We are, I have to say, most of 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:28.440 the tourists folks that I know, I really have. You know, 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:33.440 we work well together. We gel as they say. But 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.880 you know, as you reach your fifth floor, we want 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.520 to wish you many many many many many years of 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:46.960 success and prosperity and blessings and all the things and happiness, man, 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.960 happiness is a thing that's like, whoa, what does it 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.640 even mean these days? Because it's hard to be happy 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:56.800 in a society where you know, there's so much happening, 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:02.239 and you know, I have to say that when I 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:07.240 sit with a group of people who are starving to 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:14.440 death with our tax dollars being spent on this experiment 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:21.520 or colonial operation that's happening, colonizers operation that's happening to 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.159 the people of Gaza and the Palestinian people, it's like 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:29.920 sometimes you get and by the way, that same experiment 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.680 takes place in our nation as well, in different communities, 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.920 and you get happy and you celebrate. We do birthdays, 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.680 we do parties, we do fun things, and then you 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:45.000 just sit with it, like this place is really it's ghetto. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:46.719 Do you realize they. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.719 Say that they were supposed to be introducing a bill 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:54.599 to make it illegal to speak against Israel? 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.800 Well, yeah, I mean actually I was up probably like 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:02.200 three four o'clock in the morning and researching it because 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.200 I was like, let me just make sure what I'm hearing. 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:09.880 The internet can be very dangerous and words matter. Words 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:16.000 are important because while I do know that based upon 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.320 what they are trying what they're attempting to pass in 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.680 the Congress. That it does mean that they're moving closer 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:27.280 and closer to individuals also not being able to say 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.520 that they're protesting a boycott. If you put it on 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:31.600 your social media, you could be in trouble or whatever 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.119 and all of that. But that's not where they are now. 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.880 Right now, they're passing a bill that will impact vendors 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:46.080 and institutions and college groups, and the dangerous one is journalists. 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:50.479 So that means that they assume that you have some 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:52.000 level of influence. 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.880 You are a vendor who refuses to. 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:02.280 Do business with Israel because of their policies and the 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:06.760 genocide that's happening to the Israel, to the people, the 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:07.719 Palacinian people. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:09.720 So if you make. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.720 If they know that that's the reason, like you might 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.040 be able to get away with just not wanting to 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.400 do it and saying it wasn't a good business deal. 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.240 But you cannot say I will. 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.520 Not because I'm boycotting or I do not do business 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:24.200 with Israel. 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:25.760 Then you can be. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:30.680 Fined and jailed, you know, for that, and then you know, 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.040 beyond that. Of course, if you're a journalist and you're 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:36.800 doing articles that talks about boycotting Israel. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:37.560 And all of that. 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:41.880 That's what they're specifically focused on now. But it's the saying, 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.880 the good old saying, once they come for them, they 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.600 come for you. So it starts off with it just 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:51.880 being about this, you know, bigger, larger entities or more 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:57.480 organized entities, which probably includes organizations like Until Freedom who 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.600 they don't want to be a part of the BDS movement, 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.640 boycott the investment and sanctions. 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.040 But what eventually we. 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.760 Know is that if they start this, then it'll it'll 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.440 eventually come to If you're just a person who has 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.040 a large platform and you use your social media to 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.400 talk about these things, you can lose your page then 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.680 maybe go to jail. So that's why you have to 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.640 stop it over there, and and the and the real 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.680 thing is if they can do it about Israel, they 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:24.920 can do it about somewhere else. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.360 They can they can start saying, just like challenge the president. 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.319 People off the street because because they literally it's literally 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:32.920 that's what they do. 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:33.480 Kidnap. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:38.360 If they're kidnapping you for protesting with no due process, 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.440 no charges or anything, and sending you out like that's crazy, 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:42.520 it's the same process. 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:43.640 Yeah, yeah, I know. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.920 Now they have this thing where like on YouTube and 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.800 other places, I realize people are saying the R word. 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:55.160 People are saying s A instead of saying. 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:58.200 You know, xtual assaults or eight. 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:00.960 I can't say it, our guess because it might trigger 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.560 And eventually they're gonna probably do that with the word 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:04.360 genocide as well. 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:05.920 It may already be U. 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:10.320 And you know, we're really moving into a space. And 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:16.360 again this stuff is supported by both Republicans and Democrats, 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:21.920 so you know, And and then the last vote which 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:26.840 Bernie Sanders and a group came together to stop money 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:33.240 from going more aid going to Israel, the Democrats, including 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.200 the black ones. In fact, it was all the black 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.480 ones that I saw who were in the Senate that 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.480 voted for that bill right to push for or voted 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:47.959 against stopping the aid, so they supported more money going 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:52.000 to Israel. So you know, at this point, you can't 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:53.920 even sit up here and say, and it speaks to 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.320 my thought of the day, you can't sit up here 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:01.000 and say, well, no, no, no, you know, don't say 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.680 that about the Democrats, because the Democrats are the poor 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.040 party of morality. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:05.800 Man. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:11.760 Both sides, both sides have very very fundamental issues. It 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.760 brings me to my thought of the day, David Hogg. 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.840 This is a young man who was one of the 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:22.960 who's just a survivor of the Parkland shooting. So we 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:27.600 know that the Parkland shooting was probably one of the 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:33.240 most horrific acts of violence against students where students were killed, 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:37.880 and you know, it was something that sparked a larger 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:42.840 movement around gun violence, prevention and intervention. It's interesting because 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.480 even in the Women's March, we were saying, we have 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:48.800 to focus on gun violence, and people told us that 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.640 had nothing to do with women's issues. Why y'all want 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:57.040 to do gun by people? Matter of fact, we were 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.880 being told that we were derailing the mission of Women's March, 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:07.720 right and people they condemned us for attempting to organize 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.480 largely white women around gun violence. And then when the 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.160 Parkland shooting happened, there was. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:15.400 A big movement. 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:19.440 All of a sudden, the world was like, oh man, 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.840 we're coming out by the droves, by the millions against 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:27.880 gun violence or in support of gun violence prevention and intervention. 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.839 And guess what. Here's the thing, right, here's the thing. 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:33.720 The thing is, if we had. 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.800 Dealt with it at the time when women were raising 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.560 the issue, when women of color were raising the issue. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.320 But that was the issue, that was the problem. 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:45.440 They didn't like the fact that we were demanding that 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.880 the movement addressed gun violence because it was happening to 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:50.040 black and brown kids. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.160 And of course, you know, certainly. 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:56.559 There had been white children who had also been shot 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:57.960 and killed, and gun violence is. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.040 An issue that is across the bulls, right and so. 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:05.439 But they did not want to deal with Pilando Castill, 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.440 which was a black man who was shot to death 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.600 with a gun that he told the police officer I 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.000 have a gun and they's still a license carrier. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:13.760 They didn't want to deal with that. They didn't want 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:14.760 to deal with the black issues. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:18.120 So they condemned us for the idea that we would 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.199 ever bring gun bus And then all of a sudden, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.520 the Parkland shooting happens and white folks was out in droves. 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.560 So it is what it is. 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:29.280 We never want to do anything to protect other people 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.040 that might also protect us. 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.440 We feel like, as long as it's happening to them, 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:34.199 it's cool. 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.800 But okay, brings me back. Excuse me, let me get 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:40.640 sentent on my thought of the day. David Hogg, who 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:45.800 is a survivor of the Parkland, the Parkland mass shooting. 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:50.960 He is also a vice chair for the DNC, and 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.640 that's really important because he's a young kid. I think 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.800 he's like twenty three or five something like that years old, 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:01.200 young guy who has you know, because he became one 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:07.400 of the voices that was organizing around mass shootings and 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.839 violence and shooting in general, guns and all of that 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:15.640 access to weapons. He has risen through the political ranks 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:21.520 and now he is vice chair of the DNC, big position. 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:26.439 He is now raising or has raised twenty million dollars 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:32.960 to challenge sitting elected officials. So he wants to primary folks. 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.840 It makes me think of Stephen Green, Reverend Stephen Green, 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:41.400 our brother, when he says primary everybody, right, because here's 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.920 a problem, right, and there's people that don't like this. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.760 In fact, haw Keen Jeffries has probably raised even more 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:51.240 money to defend incumbents and make sure that they don't 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.880 lose their seat to these younger progressives, liberals or whatever 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.440 they want to call them. And sometimes they're more conservative 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:01.120 voices within the party. So this is so there's two 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:05.880 conflicting ideas. I support David Hogg. I support him because 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.400 what happens is that we have people who have been 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.320 in the same position. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.480 For thirty forty years and it is time. 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:21.120 Let me tell you, you become not just complacent, but 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:26.480 sometimes compromise, even when you are not trying to be like, 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:32.200 you're not a bad person, you're not a scammer or 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.840 shisty or any of that, but because of relationships you 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:41.200 built over all of these years, because of your funders, 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.680 and your position in different places and battles that you've 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.800 been in where you learn that that's too hot. You 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.080 once said something to me that was so powerful that 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:53.560 the reason why little kids are so much more creative 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.600 and have so much more opportunity is because they don't 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:59.680 know about what could happen. 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.960 If they touch this, if they do this, if they 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:02.320 do that. 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.960 So it's beautiful to watch them as they go through 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.560 life's challenges and they explore and sometimes they run up 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:09.680 on something good, you. 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:10.320 Know what I'm saying. 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:15.800 And so what happens is that compromise it or being compromised, 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.880 does not always mean that you're doing something that is 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.239 you know, it's an attempt to harm the community. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.320 What it can mean is. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:30.160 That you literally like just ain't got that drive to 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.560 fight this issue because of all the things that go 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.520 along with it. You know what happens if you stand 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.400 up to Israel, They're going to label you anti Semitic. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.920 You've watched how that harmed other people's careers, So now 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:44.520 you don't want to get into it with that. 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.640 You know that to get the police. 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:52.200 Or to get people to sign a or to yeh 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.680 to sign a bill, or to vote positively for a 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:59.640 bill that would hold police accountable, that's not that's kind 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.720 of a situation because if you do that, then you're 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.880 gonna have the unions after you, and if you don't 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:06.840 have police support, you might not be. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.480 Able to win in the next election. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.920 Or you're getting money from APAC, from this place, from 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.400 that place, so it can compromise you. Again, it doesn't 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.080 always mean you're a bad person, but it does mean 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.360 that you have been compromised in some way you need 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:20.680 to be. 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:22.920 You, and you don't even have the will to fight, 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:28.680 not even compromise right. Sometimes sometimes losing certain battles and 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.840 losing a lot it makes you less. You don't have 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:33.920 the vigor that it takes to fight. Like they say 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.360 they use old men for war, I mean young men 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.080 for war and old men for strategy. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.840 Right, so them, And that's exactly right, and that's exactly 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.800 what it should be because we have people, and some 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.440 people are young and shouldn't be in the positions that 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:54.480 they're in. But you should always have to fight and 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.320 make sure that you show the people that you're still 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.080 committed to the values that they want to see. You 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.440 should not just be able to roll over in position 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.520 and guess what. If you about your business and you're 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.240 doing what you're supposed to be doing, the people will 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.199 defend you, the people will stand up for you, and 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.840 the people will support you. But the problem is now, 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.120 and I get it. This is what some people wanna say. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.880 They're gonna say, oh no, because look at Corey and 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:26.639 look at Jamal Bowman and how those two people were challenged. 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.399 They were primaried and they didn't win. And so this 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:31.399 is why you want to block that and shield them. 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.919 But the Democratic Party didn't do anything to shield them. 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.400 The Democratic Party, so you might as well take your 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.600 chances and be able to show the people that you're committed. 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:43.280 They did not do anything to shield the two of them. 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:47.760 Maybe with Jamal Bowman he did get some good endorsements. 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:48.160 He did. 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.960 I'm not saying he didn't Hakem endorse him. But it's 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:54.639 not the same thing as throwing down in the district 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.440 fighting for that man and standing on business. 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:58.800 Because if you're if. 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:01.840 On one hand you are over here more Zionists than 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.480 the zion this, and then on the other hand you 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.040 over there talking about oh I stand with. 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:09.879 Jamal Bowman, it's not making sense. 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.320 It's not adding up because Jamal Bowman is over here 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.840 calling out the zion this for what has happened in 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.560 this project that is taking place in Israel Palestine right now. 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.639 That's what he's saying. So how you doing that? It 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:23.400 don't make sense. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.560 So my thought of the day today is that I 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:31.800 support the young people saying we need to push for 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.960 at least a battle so that we know that you 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.720 still have the will to fight and prove to us 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.760 that you deserve to stay in a seat over and 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:43.240 over and over again. 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.480 And so I think that David hog is doing the 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:45.960 right thing. 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.359 That these young people, they are sick and tired of 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:53.600 folks who are weak, who are compromised, who are unwilling 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:56.400 to get up and say the thing people don't even 0:18:56.440 --> 0:19:00.480 want to stand up against, you know, against in type 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.600 of police and power. We just saw it and I'm 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:04.480 not even gonna I don't want to disrespect their brother, 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.920 but we just saw somebody where we were recently when 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.159 we try to talk about policing, and they want to 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.560 make sure that they defend the sheriff. 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:12.800 Up the town. 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.160 So this is this is a mindset that these young 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.480 people don't want to be involved in. And guess what 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.080 what David Hogg realizes, at least this is what I think, 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:22.960 because I didn't talk to him about it, is that 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.080 if we do not do something, if we do not 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:27.880 do something, we are going. 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.000 To lose more and more and more. 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:34.000 So he's actually helping the Democratic Party by saying you, 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:35.600 I gotta help you get out your. 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.360 Own way, because people, the people is not fool. They 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:39.080 see through it. 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:41.560 The people you're trying to give us as representatives, they 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:42.880 don't have the fight that we want. 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.320 They just don't have it. And if you. 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.639 Expect us to vote, if you expect people to go 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:50.080 out there and vote, then you got to give them 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.760 candidates they want. That's the bottom line that people are 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:56.040 rejecting that you're gonna cookie cut and you're just gonna 0:19:56.040 --> 0:20:00.439 plant you know, representatives and people for them to they 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:02.800 just not doing that normal. And we're in a time 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:07.280 where if you're not moving talking away that that resonates 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:07.560 with me. 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.560 They will stay home. They show you, I will stay home, and. 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.240 People want somebody that might have came out the mud. 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.320 I saw a cold argument going back and forth about 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:21.560 this brother, Zorhan, who is running for mayor in New 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.359 York City and one of my dear sisters who I 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.240 just don't agree with in this. She was like, well, 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:31.080 he's been a part of failed campaigns and he didn't 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.040 do this, and he hasn't done that, and he don't 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.040 know this, and he don't know that, and so we 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.919 think that he's the best person for the job. You 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.240 know what, Yeah, some people might think that. I think Zorhan. 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.439 My guy is Mike Blake. I'm with him until the 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:47.040 last day. Make sure that you rank Michael Blake. I'm 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.360 ranking him number one. You will rank him number one, 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.200 But he did not make sure that you rank him 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:56.719 at least number two. Now I like Zorhan, right, I 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:58.560 like Adrian and I like Zorhan. 0:20:58.680 --> 0:20:59.960 So I got three people that. 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:04.480 I'm ranking off the back right because Adrian as a 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:07.240 black woman, I think that she could bring something unique 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.000 to this city that we have never had. Right, We've 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:13.600 not had a black woman to be mayor of this city. 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.560 And I just think that when you look at somebody 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:19.199 like Tish and I understand the contributions that Kamala Harris 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.719 could have made and that other black women that I 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:22.720 know can make. 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:23.679 To our society. 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:27.359 I am I'm a proponent of pushing black women forward. 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:30.920 So I support Adrian Adams as well. And Zorhan I'm 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:34.240 watching him. I like Zorhan because Zorhan is keeping it real. 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:37.240 Zorhan that everybody, well, he was part of fail campaigns. 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:40.760 That means he know about fail campaigns, so he might. 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.240 Know a little bit about that. Guess what he might not. 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:47.080 He may have ideas, because they were saying other people 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:51.440 in this chat that that Zorhan has ideas that won't work. 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.320 That's what we might need. We need people, we need 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:56.119 we need something different. 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:59.399 We might need people who are willing to try something 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:01.680 that is all off the wall to help us to 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:03.760 get where we have to go. What people do not 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:08.040 understand a lot of our political folks and our political 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:13.560 operatives and other elected officials. Is that people are rejecting 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:15.280 the same old. 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.760 Thing and they're rejecting it. 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:23.280 They don't want it. So guess what if Zorhan or 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:27.280 Mike Blake or Michael Blake he can't win because he's 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.240 you know, he's to this, to that he has, he 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.640 didn't win his last time he ran, I mean out 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:36.080 of heard so many things. Or Adrian, she doesn't have 0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:39.800 the support. Guess what, support them. Pour your resources in 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:44.160 and then show up. Volunteer support, help, get on the team, 0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:46.200 get on the transition team, and. 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:46.959 Help these people. 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.800 But folks do not want what they have always had 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:55.560 because it is not working. They want something different. So 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:58.840 I guess the next idea would be run your damn self. 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.440 Run yourself because she'll see it, and she'll know run 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:06.280 yourself because you do have ideas that's outside of the box. 0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:09.520 But if you think that this cookie cutter strategy that 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:10.120 folks have. 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:13.520 People don't want. They don't want it. Did we not 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:16.840 see it in the election that we just had The 0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:17.600 people went with. 0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:21.880 I was gonna say whatever, the people went with somebody 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:22.560 that I think. 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:23.480 Is a very bad man. 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:27.760 Yes, because some people went with them, not everybody, but 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:29.800 there was, there was too much of a percentage of 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:30.480 people who did. 0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:33.239 But in other people they are doing the thing that 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:35.880 David Hogg is talking about. They said, you know what, 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:37.320 y'all figure it out. 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.280 I'm gonna just go on to my couch and I'm 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:42.240 gonna chill out until y'all decide what y'all gonna do 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:42.879 going forward. 0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:44.840 And that's something we cannot afford. 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:48.679 We have no time to play around with these people 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:52.960 and y'all playing Parcheesi. 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:55.040 We need to inspire people. 0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.040 The ideas need energy. 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:01.040 They need not people that's jaded, that's telling you we 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:02.680 can't win. They got all the pieces. 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:04.320 Nobody wants to hear that. 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:10.359 You got to know all this stuff because guess what. 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:15.480 The City of New York, some of these corporations they 0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:20.080 already run every single day off of a system that's 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:24.000 in place. And if you're half intelligent enough to hire 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:27.480 the right people and then you have a good heart 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:31.920 and some innovative ideas, trust me, trust me, you can 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:34.960 make it happen. I truly believe that. I do not 0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:39.040 believe that you have to be a career politician in 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:42.600 order to get in position and do the right things. 0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.400 I think that there are people who it might be 0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:46.520 the first. 0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:49.359 Time they ever even touched the podium, and they still 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.159 they can inspire more, and they might come into the 0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:55.639 office and say, guess what, we're going to change things around. 0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:58.520 But they need to be coming from a good moral soul. 0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:01.480 And you can tell that when you look at Africa, 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.399 when you look at Ibrahem Treori, right, and you listen 0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:09.400 to him, he tells you the Mond state. He says, yeah, 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.440 they'll tell you Man Kadafi did it this way, or 0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.240 the president of Haiti did it this way, and they're 0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:16.760 dead and this one's locked up. 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:19.080 We reject. We're not scared. 0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:21.879 We understand in order to get what we want in 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:23.840 order to change something that we might have to lose 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.280 our lives, and we're willing to do that. That's the 0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:28.720 energy that we need in this moment. We don't need 0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:31.400 the old God telling us, well. 0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:31.879 That don't work. 0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:33.560 We tried, you see what have no. 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.440 No, we want to hear somebody saying we're going to 0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:40.080 do the right thing, regardless if we have to die 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.119 doing the right thing. We're going to stand up for 0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:44.320 the people. We're going to speak the language of the people. 0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:46.320 We're going to put the laws in place that the 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:49.080 people want that are going to benefit the people. We're 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.359 not doing status quo, and we don't want nobody that's 0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:53.479 trying to tell us that we have to do status 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.000 quo because we rejected. 0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.840 But leading with the good moral conscious is important because 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.000 some of the people that we have in position who've 0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:05.240 never done these things before, who are the ultimate whatever 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:07.080 I was gonna say, di, but I'm not even doing 0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:12.400 that because no, you know, the ultimate disasters. They don't 0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:15.560 have a good moral soul, a good moral compass, and 0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:19.959 therefore their way of doing things, the new way is 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:24.080 to hurt, harm and destroy. We're looking for people who 0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:28.639 have a new way of doing things, new ideas, fresh 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:32.480 ways of being, but they want to be right by 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:37.640 the community, the people, and the most disadvantage these people 0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:40.440 that some folks. I'm not talking about, my friend, I'm 0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:43.160 just about some folks, the people that they want to push. 0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:46.880 They're the same people that support that nonsense that's happening 0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:50.600 in Israel palasign. They're the same people who will stand 0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:54.000 there and continue to inflate the police budget. They're the 0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:57.280 same people running around talking about I'm running on the 0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:01.480 anti Semitism line. Like what is I get the concept 0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:06.959 of fighting for the protection of all citizens, including our 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:10.159 Jewish brothers and sisters, but what are y'all talking about? Like, 0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:13.679 come on, let's let's let's be for real. And you 0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.560 think you think when those types of people are running 0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.160 for office, what you think the rest of society looks 0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:20.280 at us and says. 0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.080 This gotta be a joke. This has got to be 0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:23.440 a joke. 0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.560 I don't even want you to run on the anti 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:29.960 black racism line. I don't even want that. That's not 0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.160 what I'm looking for. That's not what I'm looking for. 0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.840 What I'm looking for you to do is have baked 0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:38.480 in all of your policies a way to make sure 0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:41.320 that all people are safe and not to lead black 0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:45.680 folks or students who are protesting against something that they 0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:47.879 know with their own eyes is wrong. 0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.520 That's what we're looking for. So, you know, we just 0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.359 live in a society that's just so. 0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.720 And it's like everything you say and do, the twisting 0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.920 of the words and the ideas, God help. 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:02.400 Us, God help us, it's a lot. It's a lot. 0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:06.440 And speaking of a lot, the TMI today is it 0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:10.399 too much? Or some people might say, hey, get over 0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.640 it dogs on planes. 0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:15.120 You can't stand. 0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:16.320 I don't have a. 0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.040 Problem with dogs on planes. I don't have a problem 0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:20.720 with dogs on planes. People have their dogs. I've been 0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.280 traveling with dogs forever. And sometimes even though I don't 0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.600 deal with dogs at all, I don't deal with dogs 0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.160 at all all. But sometimes people get on the plane 0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.520 a little cute dog. I look at it and I'm like, 0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:34.080 this is a cute little dog, and me and the 0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:34.640 dog be. 0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:36.840 Like, you know, okay, you cool whatever. It's not a 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:37.320 big deal. 0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:37.680 Dog. 0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:42.720 People don't generally their dogs don't bother anybody, right, But 0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:46.120 this new thing that's happening, and it's been going on kind. 0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:47.920 Of and inchin and echin. 0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:51.160 For a few years, and now it has become like 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:55.720 a just I don't even understand what's going on here 0:28:56.040 --> 0:29:01.160 where people's dogs are this big big dogs, long dogs, 0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:06.000 big old, like not baby dogs that people are getting 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.520 on the plane with and either stuffing them a little 0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.840 bit up under the seat, or the dog's face is. 0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:13.840 Out in the aisle, out in different ways. 0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.440 I was on the plane the other night where a 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.040 woman fell almost to her face. People had to grab 0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:23.680 her because this couple had a dog so big that 0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.239 the man couldn't fit his foot in the aisle, and 0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:28.320 so his foot was kind of out and the woman 0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:31.280 tripped over his foot as she was coming down because 0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:35.120 the dog was just that big in the too this 0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:36.200 is and it. 0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:36.880 Wasn't you know what. 0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.320 Honestly, it wasn't one of the big, big, big dogs, 0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.640 but it was still too big to fit under the 0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:43.520 seat properly. 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:44.520 So the man was like. 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:48.400 Trying awkwardly to get his feet positioned somewhere. And I 0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:50.960 think that, you know, I think it's doing too much. 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.480 But the rest of people, people might look at me 0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.040 and just like, oh, you're a hater, you know So 0:29:56.280 --> 0:30:01.880 what just just be unconversation. What happened to the passenger rights? 0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:06.240 Because now if you apply for a status to say 0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:10.280 that this dog is your your service dog, that you 0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.280 need this dog, then now that. 0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:14.840 Just everybody is free to do what they want. 0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.680 So okay, the woman and the man have the dog 0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.239 sitting there, the dog is halfway out. Now when it 0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.920 is time for us to get off the plane, they 0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.680 have to stand up. You know why, because there is 0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:29.560 a woman or a man whatever that is in the window. 0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.680 They are in the middle and our seat and I'm 0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.160 in the ole seat where I always am. 0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.000 So they gotta get up, They gotta get out the 0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:40.080 way because people are moving around. Now they're standing in 0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:43.000 the middle of the owl with this big dog. Who 0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:47.880 one does what is a damn cardinal's sin to me? 0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.840 He gets on his tail is in my because he's 0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:55.760 this long. His tail is in my aisle, and his 0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.960 head is the other way, and he does what dogs do. 0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.400 But it's a cardinal to me on my damn clothes 0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:06.440 is he starts shaking his body and getting you know, 0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:10.840 shaking himself getting up. So now his but let's just 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.840 say he doesn't have Please. What he did have was 0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.480 hair that ended up on my black sweatpants. And I 0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.360 don't have the animals, so I should not have to 0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:21.800 take home with me. Nobody's dog's hair. So that's number one. 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.640 Then when it's time for them to start walking, he 0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.480 turns around. He's trying to figure out his way. He's 0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.200 got a big body, and now his face is over 0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.360 here next to me, and I'm like, and a lady 0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:36.520 says to me, oh, you're fine. No, I'm not fine. 0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:38.320 I'm not fine. 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:39.520 Because this is inconvenience to me. 0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:41.400 We're on a plane and now, all of a sudden, 0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:43.000 the new rules are which they. 0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:44.240 Never put statements out. 0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.880 I am a Diamond member, I'm in the highest level 0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:51.840 of traveling on Delta, and I have never ever ever 0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.800 seen an email that came out from them saying that 0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.920 you will now have to share space with dogs that 0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:01.680 are damned near your size. I'm not the size of Alista, 0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:03.120 a nice sized child. 0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.280 It's not okay with me. It's really not. 0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.160 And I don't care who gets upset because people don't 0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:09.880 feel people. 0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:12.160 And by the way, folks feel like. 0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.560 Because what she said to me, I hear all the time, 0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:19.000 and I've heard it before people got bit I've heard 0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:22.400 it before people had a bad encounter with a dog. 0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.360 Oh you're fine, Oh she's fine, or he's not gonna 0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:29.200 do anything too. But everybody is not comfortable with your pet. 0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.360 It is not a human. I don't care what you say. 0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:36.080 This is your pet, and everybody is not comfortable with that. 0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.040 And I notice that this is a normal prot thing 0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:42.840 that happens in spaces when somebody's uncomfortable with the animal. 0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:44.800 It's like people are looking at you like you out 0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.840 of your mind, like it's something wrong with you. I 0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.120 don't want your dog to die. I'm not saying there 0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.520 shouldn't be dogs. I'm saying that it is not fair 0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:55.240 that I now have to experience something that it really 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.160 makes me not I don't like dogs. 0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:00.360 We know, we I mean, we can tell from this 0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:05.840 conversation that you're not really thrilled with the dog. Tamia 0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.080 doesn't want the dogs on the plane, not the big ones. 0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:09.240 I just don't. 0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.680 I feel like, if that's what you're gonna do, then 0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:14.520 the people who are sitting next to you need to 0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:18.320 have They need to be informed or something that has 0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.000 to be more work done. Where the people are sitting 0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.479 next to you get the choice of whether or not 0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.960 they want to sit there with your big dog, and 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.960 it should be somewhere on the ticket person will be 0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.920 next to you with a dog, a huge dog. This 0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.240 man had a pit ball on the plane in front 0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:35.120 of me the other day. 0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:37.720 Huge dog, pit bull? 0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.160 What in the world are we talking about? 0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:44.000 All I know about pit bulls is not something that 0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.400 I'm not I'm not well. I know some people that 0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.960 got some beautiful pit bulls that they love, and I'm 0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:52.000 sure that's because it's different from the I gw up in. 0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:52.720 The projects with. 0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:56.920 But at the same time as a person who watched 0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.400 the pit bull bite my sister. 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:01.200 It used to be a people. I didn't mean to 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:01.720 interrupt you. 0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:03.959 It was a guy named Mikey that used to live 0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.160 across the street from me in the Bronx, and his 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.920 dog would run out the building and we had a 0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.920 tire that was cooked up to the monkey balls. He 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:16.040 had a chain and the tire and every day, no 0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.080 matter who was in the park, that dog would run. 0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:20.040 Come through the park, the kids wouldrun. 0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:22.600 He'd just run straight to the tire and hang on 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:26.280 the tire for about forty five minutes straight, literally locked 0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:28.959 hanging in the air on to the tiger. 0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.959 Locked. Yeah, it was the craziest shit I've ever seen. 0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.719 And with everybody just standing around, he would lock for 0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:35.640 forty five minutes. 0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:40.520 Well, people have been traumatized by stories that they have. 0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.479 You know, I don't play with dogs. It's not my thing. 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:48.240 And I feel like, damn, here, I am paying whatever 0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.920 because Delta's tickets say it's not this not this is 0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.279 not the cheapest airline, right, This is an airline that 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:58.880 charges you in comparison to the level of service that 0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.440 they give most of the time. Because I have I 0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.479 could sit here and say, well, sometimes they don't meet 0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.279 the level. But for the most part, my experience on 0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.400 Delta is decent. It could be cleaner, but it's not 0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.680 the worst because I've been on some other flights that 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:13.640 oh my god. 0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.600 So they charge for their service and. 0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.759 I don't mind paying, even though I do mind paying, 0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:22.880 but I pay it because I want to be comfortable 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.800 as much as I have to fly. But now I'm 0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:30.960 having to make myself shrink and be to accommodate somebody's 0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:35.600 pet that is not of Yorky or teacup or whatever. 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.000 These daughter little what's the other one to look face 0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.960 that I love? Anyway, no one else cares but me. 0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:44.680 I'm sure people will tell me that I suck and 0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:45.560 I'm horrible. 0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:46.759 No, I think, but I think. 0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.920 I mean, I think this is reasonable. If somebody is 0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:55.640 paying for a ticket, right, especially you you travel in 0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:59.840 you know, good class most of the time, they should 0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.120 be notified that there's going to be a dog next 0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:04.160 to him. And I think if a dog is a 0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.080 certain size, and you should have to pay for the 0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:10.800 seat right so that the dog has his own space 0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.160 and an't got it like the dog can be underneath 0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.759 the seat by itself, nothing in front of him, not 0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:17.600 imposing itself on anybody else. 0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:19.480 I mean, that's I agree. 0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:21.319 The people had to come over to the man with 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.919 the pit bull talking about, oh, sir, your dog's face 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:25.360 can't be in in the aisle. 0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:27.640 This is different people. This is the same flight. 0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:30.160 By the way, there one big dog here and one 0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.480 man here. They come over to him something, your dog 0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:35.399 can't have his face and the thing and and maybe 0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.640 he wasn't a pit bull, but he looked like one. 0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:39.839 But I know that that might not be a thing. 0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.440 And maybe pit bulls are not considered to be I 0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.640 don't know companions, so I don't know. But anyway, he 0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:48.000 looked just like a pit bull. So they like, move 0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:49.880 your face in. He has to move his face in. 0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:51.239 Well, the damn dog. 0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:55.200 It wasn't that that the man was purposely just letting 0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:55.960 his dog hang out. 0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.719 He can't fit. Yeah, this space is too tight for 0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:00.440 my purse. 0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:04.640 The dog French bulldog. 0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:05.759 French bulldog. 0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:08.600 So we have a guest that's coming up, one of 0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:11.719 my brothers. I want you to pay attention, smart dude, 0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:18.400 cool dude, my gud. And today we have not a friend, 0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:21.759 a brother. This is one of my brothers. You know, 0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.760 we say the word day ones. This is my brother 0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:28.040 from back in the day one from the b D 0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:33.200 from the West Side, from Nelson Merriam, from the playground. 0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:37.160 You know, we grew up and just watching who he's 0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:39.799 become is just amazing. You know. 0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:42.279 In my journey in music, he was one of the 0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:47.520 closest people to me, helped me with a lot of ideas, influences. 0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:48.319 Like you know what I'm saying. 0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:51.560 He was always always a cool like he was always 0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:53.200 we used to call him the young man because he 0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.759 was so cool was He just always was one of 0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:59.279 those people, you. 0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:00.719 Know, asking itself up. 0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:04.040 But don't worry about we. I mean we outside you 0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:05.960 know what I'm saying, We don't look like we've been through. 0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:06.879 Man. You know what I'm saying. 0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:08.759 I like that. And you said day one, I will 0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:13.360 say the negative before negative negative. 0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:15.560 Trying to figure it out. We're trying to figure it out. 0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:17.719 We got to one and then we got we got 0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:18.600 one because of you. 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:22.719 Well, I appreciate that. But listen, I'm introducing you. 0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:25.600 Don't we give me too much flowers right now, man, 0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:27.600 because you know what, I appreciate it. 0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:28.520 Man, I love it. 0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:33.800 My brother Harold Harry o' wilkinson, the CEO of Chase 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:41.160 Republic College, professor entertainment, executive, martial artists, and father, and 0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:46.520 today we are joined by him to talk about his life, 0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:51.319 his legacy. His book is Beyond Words. It's the art 0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:56.200 of calculated communication. Thank you for I mean, you know something, 0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:57.799 I do this. 0:38:58.120 --> 0:38:59.160 You know I do this for real? 0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.960 Yes, you do, and I appreciate thank you for having me. 0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:07.480 Oh, thank you for being here. The cool HARRYO. Everywhere 0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:09.480 I go, they'd be like, oh yeah, Harry, Oh, that's 0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:12.279 my guy. That's Diddy everybody you know. 0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:15.280 That's that's really dope to hear. I was just telling somebody, 0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.640 people meet your reputation before they meet you. You know, 0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:21.799 your reputation shows up way before you show up, so 0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.359 it's really important to keep that intact. And the way 0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.000 you do that is just be as genuine as possible. 0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.799 Even though we're in this nasty entertainment business, you still 0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.440 just have to you know, lead with lead with a 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.000 light about you have a certain level of integrity. And 0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:37.839 thankfully to God, I was able to do that. So 0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:40.279 you know, people, hopefully they have some nice things to 0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:40.879 say about them. 0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.239 They should give a little background, you know, because we 0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.400 got this book and we know all of these accolades 0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:47.640 and who you are now. But just give a little 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.359 background on how you got here and what you want. 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:53.440 Well, yes, I can tell you a little bit about myself. 0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:56.120 It's sometimes the most difficult thing. Like you talk about yourself, 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.600 I feel like you're bragging everything. Well, I just give 0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:00.840 you the short story of it. So I started in 0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:03.680 the entertainment business as a hip hop artist, as a rapper, right, 0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:08.480 very very young. I had a deal with Uptown Records. 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:12.040 That's my first record deal, Uptown Records with you remember 0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:13.960 James Jones who lived in thirteen eighty. 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:18.240 James Jones, James Jones, Jones old school stuff. 0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:20.840 Yeah, yeah, thirteen eighty is a building in the Bronx 0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.200 and an executive that lived in that building named James Jones. 0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:26.600 God bless her. So he was an executive at Uptown Records, right, 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.760 and he found me. I think I was maybe eighth grade, 0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:32.160 I can't remember. And I had a development deal with 0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:35.200 Uptown Records, and that's how I first started in entertainment business. 0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:39.680 Then quickly that went away for whatever reason. Then I 0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:44.600 had a deal with Motown Records in between the deal 0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:47.720 with Motown Records and Kedo Massenberg, I was also working 0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.520 with Puff with Diddy, we didn't ever sign a deal 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:52.920 with bad Boy, but he would have me in the 0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.560 studio doing a lot of writing, doing a lot of touring, 0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:59.759 so on and so forth. And I have a relationship 0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.040 with my through music in which we'll talk about as well. 0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:04.920 So I went from Uptown Records, went to Motown Records, 0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:08.279 and then Murder in Records is where it ended. I 0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:12.120 always like to say I got credits in different companies 0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:14.640 like a college, Like I got transfer credits from bad Boy, 0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:17.960 I got transfer credits from Motown. I got my last credits, 0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.400 my last twenty credits I needed to graduate. I got 0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.759 with Murder Inc. And then I transitioned into like more 0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:26.640 behind the scenes things like that. But that's the short 0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:29.880 version of how I came about where I am and today. 0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:34.040 So from the music aspect, what makes you say I'm 0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.000 gonna switch course like I can't, I'm not gonna do 0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:40.719 this or invest so much of my intention into being 0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.280 an artist. 0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.920 Good question. So there's two things that happened. One, I 0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:50.680 became a father right to my daughter. But when you 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:54.080 are in entertainment, and you love entertainment. I always loved 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.600 to be a part of entertainment. It was just a 0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:00.759 natural thing to transition into behind the scenes because one 0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:02.959 of one of the things that God gave me as 0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:06.640 a natural ability which I transform into a skill, was 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.200 connecting with people, knowing how to deal with people. So 0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.280 when I was a hip hop artist, I would build 0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:13.000 these relationships, like I used to go down to death 0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.359 jam with my song when he had his deal, and 0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:19.080 I didn't know the effect I was having on certain people. 0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:21.839 From Chris Lighty God bless her Dad to Eric Nix, 0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:23.759 all these people took a liking to me, took a 0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.080 liking to me, took a liking to me more. They 0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:29.200 liked more my personality than whatever music we were doing. So 0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:32.200 as a start to transition out of being an artist, 0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:34.560 that door was just open for me to walk into 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:37.680 be an executive. It was like an easy, easy transition. 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:37.920 Yeah. 0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:41.000 It was always the person that, like I said, he 0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:42.920 used the cool dude. He would come in and he 0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:46.040 always had something to add to something right, so he 0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:49.359 would listen. He would always he always paid attention, Like 0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.760 if I was doing music in the studio. 0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:53.200 He would listen to the beat. 0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.200 He'd be in his own corner and he would listen 0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:58.000 to what I'm saying and then he'll come to, you 0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.360 should probably make the chorus like this, or make the 0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:03.440 melody go like this. He always added something, so even 0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.120 Chris Light, he would see him doing that. Tone would 0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:07.560 see him do it and be like, your old needs 0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.080 to be around because he brought something to the table. 0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.759 He was always trying to add a piece of the puzzle. So, 0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:16.200 like he said, he would come down to the to 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.200 Varick Street that was like the spot at that time 0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.560 def jam Verick, and he would go in to offices 0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:23.839 and he would build his own relationship with Chris Light. 0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:25.880 He'd be like, yo, I think you should do this 0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:27.799 with mice well and he would sit there and say, 0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:29.880 Christ what you think if you did this, if you 0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:31.719 market this, I think the video should go like this. 0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:33.960 He always was staying in the end. Then they would 0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.040 ask him questions. They would come to him be like 0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:36.960 what do you think about this? 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:38.879 And he'd be like, well, I don't really like that 0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:39.239 that much. 0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:42.319 I don't And then he started building his own relationships 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.160 with that, and even so. 0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:47.160 It morphed you know when I got locked up, because 0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:48.359 always a part of. 0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:51.560 We had our own thing called the Problem Children, right, 0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:55.440 So we had five different personalities. Everybody had their own 0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:58.759 personality like us. Traveling was like I even get into 0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.080 all that. But we said we had we had a ball, 0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:04.279 like you know what I'm saying, Like we we we 0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:06.719 left the block and we just started exploring life. He 0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:10.400 was young, twenty twenty one year old kids in Miami. 0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:12.719 Probably he wasn't. 0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:15.719 When I was. 0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.080 Two years younger, but don't guts, but what I'm saying, 0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:25.160 we were just exploring life and was always a person 0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.520 to listen and pay attention and add something to it. 0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:33.640 So it was me him becoming an executive and moving 0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:36.600 into that, you know, to the offices in those buildings. 0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.080 It was natural for me. I didn't I already seen 0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:41.960 that before it happened, you know. And then he started 0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.719 hanging with Joe Rode. They met on a set of 0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:49.239 Somewhere a movie. He was so he gonna tell you 0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.799 that story, but they met and then they built their 0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:55.040 own relationship and partnership and then it went from there. 0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:57.600 Like today, I'm a part of like Jos. Like first 0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:00.640 Jo was my brother. I always want to be Yeah, 0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:04.600 that's my brother, that's the most important element of our relationship. 0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:07.680 That's my brother. Now outside of that, my company, Chase Republic, 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.120 serves as like an independent agency for him where we 0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.560 do a lot of different deals together. But let me 0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:14.480 just tell you a quick funny story. And I think 0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:16.439 I told this a long time ago. So when Mike 0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:20.600 was signed to Violator, like he said, I was always 0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:23.239 down in the office. I mean, Chris Lighty is taking 0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:26.839 a liking to me. Everyone is loving my ideas. So 0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.759 one day Chris Lighty and Eric Nick set up a 0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.040 meeting to see if I can get an A and 0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:34.839 R position. A definitely. I'm still an artist at the time. 0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:36.279 So they're like, Yo, we want you to meet because 0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:38.399 we think you're great for this job. Go meet with 0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:40.879 whoever they want me to meet with. So I get 0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:44.040 into Guy's office. We're talking to Guy asked me three questions. Right, 0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:47.520 he says, what do you think about cash money? Records? 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:50.359 Cash money? Just like they just began. So I said 0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:52.320 what I said about cash money. Then he asked me 0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:54.000 another question, what do you think about this? I forgot 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.960 the answer. Then he asked me this third question. He 0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:59.600 so he goes, who do you think is going to 0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:04.880 sell more records my song or Wow, I'm sitting and 0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:07.200 I'm looking at like how you asked? You know who 0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:10.279 I'm with? Right, So I'm like and I'm looking at 0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:14.000 him like real perplexed, like mice, my song is selling 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.719 more records than jo Easy. He looked at me, he goes, 0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:19.600 all right, cool, it's nice to meet you. Whatever, and 0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:20.560 then that then. 0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:20.840 That was it. 0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:23.520 I didn't get the job. 0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:28.680 And of course, listen, my career got derailed for some 0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.320 unfortunate circumstances. Who knows, maybe he had he could have 0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:37.160 went off and sell more than joh But the gentleman 0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:41.680 knew something out of all we had was us. That's 0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:47.040 all we have. I'm gonna ride with my team for 0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:50.760 every answer. That's my team. But Joe had a different 0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:53.239 machine with them, Like we had our core and our love. 0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:56.719 But Joah had Irv's mind, he had jay Z, he 0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.560 had d m X. We didn't have any of that 0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:02.759 in the core like d Max became came on about. 0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:05.160 I mean, we just we never had the opportunity to 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:05.440 have that. 0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:05.919 We didn't. 0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:09.439 That's what I'm saying, Yeah we did, we didn't. 0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:14.040 But jo Joe is a generational artist, you know, he 0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:16.680 created his own side, he created his own lane. It 0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:19.520 was always competition like that when we walked into death Gym, 0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:22.040 that's what all John. So we was in competition, like 0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:24.200 you know what I'm saying. So when they built their 0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:26.239 own relationship, I know he probably laughs at that. 0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:31.600 Yeah, because me and like me and Joe got Me 0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:35.279 and Rule are like super tight, super tight. That's that's 0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:38.759 my guy right there. And yeah, and my company does 0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:40.640 a lot of different activations for a lot of different 0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:42.439 partnerships like we do with a lot of other talent 0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:44.400 that I probably talked about today. 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.600 Well, yeah, I mean, and that's the problem in and 0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:50.560 of itself that you probably could have helped that person 0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:54.399 who interviewed you make millions of dollars, but they were 0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:57.759 so caught up in trying to, you know, do the 0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:02.400 the division competition thing. And it's because the question is disrespectful. 0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:05.959 If you know who I'm here with just to ask 0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:08.319 me that is, if you want me to show you 0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:11.120 that I am going to cut my friends back. And 0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:14.320 they might really have been thinking that as well, because 0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:17.800 we know the industry is so cut through, right, it's 0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:18.879 so cut through. 0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:21.719 I'm sorry because I didn't even look at it that 0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.600 way gave me a Yeah, you gave me a different 0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:27.720 perspective because all these years I never looked at it 0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:28.239 that way. 0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:30.520 They might have been just trying to see like, do 0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:33.640 you have this undying loyalty to somebody or are you 0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:36.240 willing to sit in this room and say something because. 0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:37.759 They might need to send you to do that. You 0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:38.680 know what I'm saying. 0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:41.600 That that's why I said to me because you're very, 0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:47.840 very very because I m wrong, But it makes it makes. 0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:50.319 Sense because why would somebody ask me that? 0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:52.799 Well, let me tell you why. A possible reason they 0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:55.200 could ask it. But I love your theory on it 0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:57.919 because no matter what you asked me the question, I'm 0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:02.360 always gonna ride with my team, but the other perception 0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:04.359 of it could be all right, I want to see 0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:08.279 if you can be biased. I know that's your friend. 0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:10.920 What do you know of Joe Rule and his ability 0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:13.880 in comparison to your friends? You feel like, how do 0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:15.800 you feel? Do you know your friends? 0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:19.040 But that's what I'm saying, it's still out of pocket 0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:23.000 question because you're telling me that's like somebody you seeing 0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:26.880 Lebron and you seeing Mellow and you hang with Mellow 0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:29.280 every day and you don't watch Melo score forty fifty 0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:31.880 sixty game and then before they get to the NBA. 0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:33.720 And they ask you, who won't be a better NBA player? 0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:34.800 I'm not. 0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:36.000 There's no way that I'm gonna go. 0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:38.279 I see, okay, Lebron score forty but I know my 0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:41.440 man can score forty two, right, So I understand it 0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:43.400 that when you look now in hindsight. 0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:44.719 You're gonna be like everybodys gonna be like, well, you know, of. 0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:47.720 Course, hindsight is always gonna be but that's okay. 0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.200 But I still just not gonna say it. It just doesn't. 0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:51.720 But let me just say this because. 0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:55.040 You you mentioned something that I wrote down here, which 0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:57.919 is that you had an ability that you turned into 0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:01.080 a skill. These young folks need learn about this. We've 0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:03.600 been educating the last two weeks the young fulk on 0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:06.319 a lot of things, but the ability to a skill. 0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:08.920 Because some people think because they have the passion, they 0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:12.200 got the talent, they have the thing, that they also 0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:16.239 have the skill set to operate it and help and 0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:18.080 use it to make them successful. 0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:19.120 There's a difference. 0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:23.560 It's a big difference. Like the ability when I mentioned 0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:26.920 it in the context of God planted the ability you 0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:29.480 have what it takes to connect with people and to 0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:31.759 build You have what it takes to make a life 0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:35.960 from yourself, just from you. I planted that within side you. 0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:39.400 The skill is now you have to work at that. 0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:42.480 You have to work at what the ability I gave you. 0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:44.440 You may have a talent to play basketball, you have 0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:47.400 the ability, but you have to work at your skill. 0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:50.719 You have to apply discipline, You have to understand where 0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:53.719 your strengths are. You have to seek counsel. You have 0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:56.000 to understand that you don't have all the answers and 0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:59.799 you want to be better. So, yes, I was God 0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:01.640 playing to something inside of me, being an ability to 0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:04.520 connect with people, deal with people, a certain mind that 0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:08.480 he gave me, and I work at the skill of it. 0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.680 To now when we write a book is beyond words, 0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:15.080 the art of calculator communication. I understand that I'm putting 0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:17.920 forth to skill and something that was already playing in 0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:20.080 side of me. So to your point, to me get 0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:23.759 the young people, sometimes we got to give them some 0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:26.360 time because I didn't. I didn't just wake up and 0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:29.040 get there at twenty twenty two, twenty three, twenty four. 0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:32.160 It was a process of getting there process, God was, 0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:35.520 God had me going straight. It was a process. But 0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:39.960 once that lightning come in and once you're unlocked, then 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:42.080 these young people they'll be able, toy'll be able to 0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:42.400 get it. 0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:45.719 Yeah, but sometimes we take too long to figure it out, 0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:49.080 and then that's when you end up because sometimes you 0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:53.680 you might also use your abilities and make them a 0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:55.240 skill set for the wrong things. 0:51:55.560 --> 0:52:00.960 Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, No, It's is like 0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:02.880 you know, I used to watch cartoons like this power. 0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:04.239 If you have it in your hand, you can use 0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:07.239 it for good or use it for evil. Not to 0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:09.080 get so spiritual, but that's when you have to have 0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:11.520 all right, you have to have some type of faith 0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:14.319 now to keep you on the right track of with 0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:17.560 this ability of skill. Because yes, to go back to 0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:19.880 the book right the art of calculator communication. When you 0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:23.279 hear the word calculated, people may think manipulative or this 0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:28.239 or that. No, I'm talking about using this information in 0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:30.839 the light of how God wants you to move, how 0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:33.920 you move with this information. How can you be calculated 0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:36.319 to get the things you need? But you're not at 0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:39.960 the harm, you're not harming someone else, So that makes sense. 0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:44.480 So it's like it's like when I tell people the 0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:47.040 difference between a hustle and a drug dealer. A drug 0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:49.640 dealer can only sell drugs. A hustle can sell anything. Yes, 0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:52.759 And it's all in the mind frame. Yes, Because when 0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:55.120 you look at jay Z, when you look at fifty cent, 0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:58.040 when you look at cash money, you look you watched 0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:03.920 drug dealersansform into hustlers. They realize, Oh, I'm just changing 0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:06.680 the product, right, I'm not harming nobody anymore. I'm using 0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:09.640 the same skill set, the same god giving ability to 0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:12.719 make deals and sit down with people and sell this 0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:15.000 or you want to buy. It's the same exact skill set. 0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:18.040 So once you realize that you have that ability and 0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:19.799 you turn it into skill and you use it for 0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.560 the right thing, it's calculated, like you said, and it's 0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:25.400 not manipulative. It's me using the best things that I have. 0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:27.600 It's like I know that I know how to speak, 0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:29.480 I know how to make people pay attention. When I 0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:32.360 went into death Jam's office, a lot of them was like, 0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:34.640 I don't really like this music this. But when I 0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:36.600 sat down with Leo and I was talking to him 0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:39.400 and I was rapping the same songs to him, He's like, 0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:43.640 that's it. Right there watching you visually give these messages. 0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:45.600 Is what's going We're gonna make video. This is what 0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:48.000 he told me. Absolutely, and I realized this was a 0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:50.759 skill set that I had. I realized the ability. I 0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:54.040 realized that when I was talking to people, they were captivated. Right, 0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:56.840 So I utilized that skill set. And that's what people 0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:58.640 have to do. You have to find the thing that 0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:04.000 you have that makes it, makes it tangible and makes 0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:06.920 it effective for you to be able to create some defense. 0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:09.799 And everything you want to do in this life. You 0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:12.719 already have everything you need inside of you. You just 0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:13.320 have to find. 0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:16.279 It's like to get for talking all the time. That's 0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:18.399 all she did was talk for real. 0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:21.799 That was always Now now you're the voice for the 0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:24.719 voice list. You understand you the voice for the voice list. 0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:28.680 Everything you need to go, wherever you want to go 0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:30.440 is already em bettered inside of you. 0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:30.960 Right. 0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:33.800 You just have to find that and harness that and 0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:35.840 work towards it. Is a term of hope on the 0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:40.520 messagelized world of self actualization, right is reaching the highest 0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:44.759 level of yourself, the highest level of understanding you. And 0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:47.040 that's something I talk about in the book. As far 0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:50.399 as your intra personal intelligence. Your InTru is how you 0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:53.160 see yourself? How do you feel about yourself? What do 0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:56.560 you think about you? When you reach the highest level 0:54:56.600 --> 0:55:00.200 of understanding you, you understand that anything you want to 0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:02.839 do it's already and better than siety. But it's a 0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:05.560 process to get there. It's a process to get there. 0:55:09.239 --> 0:55:13.880 So tell us about your book. I'm really interested in, 0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:16.480 first of all, how you came up with the concept 0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:18.279 for the books and somebody help you or was it 0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:19.240 your own idea? 0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:21.560 And then what was your writing process? 0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:25.319 Yes, I can answer all of that, So let's start 0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:26.520 with the writing process. 0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:30.000 Yes, I can answer all because he's a professor. 0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:32.839 Yes, I'm a college professor, so we're going to start there. 0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:37.279 I'm a college professor. I've been teaching communication courses for 0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:41.520 over twelve years. Right, different levels of communication, So as 0:55:41.560 --> 0:55:44.920 a college professor, I started to understand communication on different aspects. 0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:48.120 When you ask someone how do you define communication? Right, 0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:49.919 I always ask the class. That's the first thing I asked, 0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:53.120 how do you define communication? Is speaking? In this and 0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:57.920 the communication is so much more than speaking, It's so 0:55:58.080 --> 0:56:01.200 much more than words. Hence the title, It's beyond words. 0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:05.680 Communication is beyond words, it's connection. So to answer your questions. 0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:10.239 This book started during the pandemic twenty twenty, when we 0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:13.040 were locked down. I started to write. I wanted to 0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:16.279 write a communication textbook because as a college professor, I 0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:19.200 go into the classrooms and the administration I don't want 0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:21.879 to say any administration name. They say hey, they say, hey, 0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:24.040 this is the TEXTICALLY want you to use. And I 0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:27.680 read the textbook and I go, Okay, why do I 0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:31.279 have to teach these students someone else's thoughts, Like, if 0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:34.160 you want me to just teach from this book and 0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:36.080 have them answer these questions, they might as well have 0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:38.239 just an independent study and do this at home. But 0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:39.759 if you want me in the class to show my 0:56:39.840 --> 0:56:43.640 ability and my skill, they're going to learn from my thoughts. 0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:44.840 So I said, you know what, let me write my 0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:48.040 own textbook. I started to write my own communication textbook 0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:53.360 and a journey with communication. All communications starts with intra 0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:57.600 personal intelligence. That's your conversation within. So we go from 0:56:57.640 --> 0:57:02.319 there to interpersonal community relationship with you and I. How 0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:07.319 I feel about me will determine how you and I connect, Right, 0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:11.440 so my intra will affect my inter So I discuss 0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:17.280 intra inter our relationship, how we build relationships into cultural communication? 0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:19.840 How do I connect with people who don't look like 0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:22.800 me or who have they're just from a different culture. 0:57:22.840 --> 0:57:25.280 We look alike, but we are not in the same culture. 0:57:25.640 --> 0:57:28.320 And I explain that, and then how do I apply 0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:31.560 emotional intelligence? Then we transition how do I become a 0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:34.720 leader in communication? So that's the journey of the book, 0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:37.160 and we can dig in more to it. It's one 0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:40.360 thing I said, and I don't want to ramble when 0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:42.960 I discuss culture and communication. I start the class, I say, 0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:45.440 how do you define culture? So the class will say 0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:47.320 they say all these things. I say, what's the example 0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:50.840 of culture? They say music, they say t you know, art, religion, 0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:53.560 so on and so forth. And then I say one statement, 0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:57.000 and I want them to answer after, what's your response 0:57:57.040 --> 0:57:59.640 to the statement? Culture and race are not the same? 0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:04.280 Culture and race are not synonymous. And I let them 0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:06.760 think for a second. They're like, Wow, culture and race 0:58:06.800 --> 0:58:10.000 aren't the same. Once you understand that just because you 0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:14.360 and I look alike, it doesn't mean we identify with 0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:17.920 the same culture. I have to realize that, understand that 0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:20.600 as I'm connecting with you, right, Oh yeah, we have 0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:22.520 the same skin color. Right, Say we add an event 0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:24.280 somewhere and I sit down and some people over there, 0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:27.280 and I'm like, look at that that Mexican woman over there. 0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:30.520 I'm joking, and You're like, do you have any idea 0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:32.919 with my culture? I know we have the same skin color, 0:58:32.960 --> 0:58:35.240 but you don't know my way of life. And I 0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:36.960 could sit there and be talking to and insulting you 0:58:37.000 --> 0:58:38.760 and not even knowing, and not. 0:58:38.680 --> 0:58:40.480 Even your father's Mexican. 0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:41.760 Won't even know it. 0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:45.680 It's an interesting conversation though, because I've been asked by 0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:51.040 a number of people to chime in on Fat Joe 0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:58.200 and other Latino at Latina brothers and sisters who use 0:58:58.320 --> 0:58:58.680 the N. 0:58:58.640 --> 0:58:59.560 Word right Like. 0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:01.720 People are like, oh, you're not upset, and I'm like, 0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:06.040 it's hard because I grew up in the projects in 0:59:06.120 --> 0:59:11.880 Harlem and my neighbors were Dominican and Puerto Rican, and 0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:14.800 then you know we First of all, I didn't have 0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:19.040 anybody around me at that young age that was African 0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:24.080 or like getting deeper into the black race. I was 0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:28.120 more connected to people who were of Latin descent. 0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:30.760 Than African, right I was. 0:59:30.840 --> 0:59:33.360 I mean, you know, now I have a total different 0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:35.240 It's kind of like flipped a little bit. 0:59:35.320 --> 0:59:36.200 I'm much more. 0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:41.720 I have more relationships with African Caribbean Nathum race individuals. 0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:43.280 But at that time that. 0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:46.640 Wasn't the case, and so we all had the same 0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:51.439 exact vernacular, like we all we spoke the same. Now, 0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:54.120 only thing that was different is that like if I 0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:56.840 you know, my family, they were very Southern. So the 0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:00.840 folks that our building, the Poppies and mommy, they didn't talk. 1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:03.960 They didn't have that Southern thing. And then of course 1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:07.080 I didn't speak Spanish, you know what I'm saying. So 1:00:07.680 --> 1:00:10.360 I get why some people would have an issue with 1:00:10.400 --> 1:00:12.800 it because they want to say black only black black 1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:15.480 black black black. But then if you grew up in 1:00:15.560 --> 1:00:18.280 the projects where it was where everybody was kind of 1:00:18.280 --> 1:00:21.480 the same and using the same terminology and speaking to 1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:24.160 each other that way, it's hard to now make the 1:00:24.200 --> 1:00:28.480 differentiation because they it probably fad Joe probably wouldn't even 1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:31.840 know how to speak without being able to use certain 1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:34.200 words because he just that's what he's so used to. 1:00:34.320 --> 1:00:37.640 Absolutely, like you said the key word vernacular right right, 1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:39.880 And you make my point. And this is what I 1:00:39.920 --> 1:00:42.440 try to get the young people in my class to understand. 1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:48.120 Vernacular is a form of as a language, right, that 1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:51.800 language it really you got to hear me on this 1:00:52.000 --> 1:00:57.320 language does not have it's not race base. Language is learned, 1:00:57.560 --> 1:01:00.640 you learn, you can learn language vernacular. So we are 1:01:00.680 --> 1:01:04.120 growing up in the same environment. We have the same vernacular, 1:01:04.160 --> 1:01:06.400 but we're saying the same things. If you're on a 1:01:06.440 --> 1:01:10.560 basketball course and you're playing basketball with with with Caesar, right, 1:01:10.760 --> 1:01:13.760 and he goes, Mike, come on and you fout me, 1:01:13.960 --> 1:01:15.800 you're not going to stop the game and fight season 1:01:15.840 --> 1:01:16.520 for like. 1:01:16.840 --> 1:01:19.480 It's just my best friend. So this is we had 1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:21.520 the same exact words that we said. 1:01:21.520 --> 1:01:24.440 Every right, you understand now, and you called him that, 1:01:24.920 --> 1:01:26.640 which is also a thing. 1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:30.600 This has to be clear. I'm not saying that it's 1:01:30.800 --> 1:01:33.200 right that we're not saying yeah, I'm just saying that 1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:36.320 whoever might be trying to kill us, I'm not saying 1:01:36.360 --> 1:01:39.200 it's right. I'm trying to make the distinction to understand 1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:43.880 what culture is culture culture versus race, and why that's 1:01:43.920 --> 1:01:47.280 important to how we connect and how we communicate. 1:01:46.760 --> 1:01:49.280 Because I don't know, I don't agree that it's right 1:01:49.360 --> 1:01:51.840 for us to use it either. So it's I'm not 1:01:51.880 --> 1:01:55.120 trying to make excuses for anybody. But we always say 1:01:55.120 --> 1:02:00.200 on this show that we are well, yeah right, We 1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:03.320 always say because we're not perfect individuals, and we always 1:02:03.360 --> 1:02:06.560 say that we live in contradiction that you know, we 1:02:06.640 --> 1:02:10.080 can we can say free Willy and know that Willy's 1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:12.560 supposed to be in jail because of the stuff that Willy. 1:02:12.400 --> 1:02:15.640 Done did right, like, but we want our friend to 1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:16.280 be free. 1:02:16.560 --> 1:02:18.959 But when we sit down and think about it, like, boy, 1:02:19.000 --> 1:02:23.680 WILLI was a problem, you know kind of we live 1:02:23.720 --> 1:02:27.360 in we are walking contradictions. Every day we eat the 1:02:27.400 --> 1:02:29.840 food we know is killing us, you know what I'm saying. 1:02:29.840 --> 1:02:33.000 We go to the places where and shot with people 1:02:33.000 --> 1:02:36.480 who we know they don't care nothing about our community. 1:02:36.720 --> 1:02:38.400 So we are walking contradictions. 1:02:38.400 --> 1:02:41.440 But we have to try to have a majority, a 1:02:41.480 --> 1:02:44.560 majority of sound mind to say we're not gonna just 1:02:44.640 --> 1:02:48.480 let any damn thing happen in our community. Absolutely, and 1:02:48.520 --> 1:02:52.440 white folks can't be saying in word, that's it, that's it, 1:02:52.880 --> 1:02:53.160 that's it. 1:02:53.960 --> 1:02:56.840 Understand like I said, it's just it's just a thought 1:02:56.840 --> 1:02:59.360 process for you to understand, like as I pertained to 1:02:59.360 --> 1:03:02.320 the book, just to understand what culture and races and 1:03:02.360 --> 1:03:04.240 knowing that it's not the same so I know how 1:03:04.280 --> 1:03:07.720 to communicate and deal and connect because I can't assume 1:03:07.800 --> 1:03:10.680 anything because of how you look. I can't assume that. 1:03:10.720 --> 1:03:12.400 I can't assume that me and you have the same 1:03:12.400 --> 1:03:14.880 lifestyle because we look like no, no, no, we may not. 1:03:15.400 --> 1:03:15.880 We may not. 1:03:16.320 --> 1:03:18.439 So I have to as you may have heard the saying, 1:03:18.440 --> 1:03:20.320 I have two ears in one mouth, so I'm listen 1:03:20.640 --> 1:03:23.040 twice as much then I speak, so I could learn 1:03:23.080 --> 1:03:24.680 who you are, then I can connect with you. 1:03:26.400 --> 1:03:29.280 So yeah, So give us something that's in this book 1:03:29.640 --> 1:03:33.360 that you think is paramount, that is a key element 1:03:33.760 --> 1:03:36.360 of communication, an example of something. 1:03:37.440 --> 1:03:38.160 It's so much. 1:03:38.720 --> 1:03:41.000 That's how I am When people ask me, what is 1:03:41.000 --> 1:03:43.360 the part about your book that surprises people the most, 1:03:43.440 --> 1:03:44.160 I'm like the book. 1:03:44.640 --> 1:03:48.760 It's a whole book. It's so much right, But there's 1:03:48.800 --> 1:03:51.400 a couple components that I touched on first. I want 1:03:51.440 --> 1:03:53.880 to mention one thing, right, So in the back of 1:03:53.920 --> 1:03:56.400 the book, I talk about calculated communication and how it 1:03:56.440 --> 1:03:59.600 pertains in my business. How Chase Republic, my agency has 1:03:59.720 --> 1:04:03.680 partners with the Brooklyn Nets partnerships with the WNBA partnerships. 1:04:03.880 --> 1:04:07.720 How did you get these partnerships? You are independent mail, 1:04:08.160 --> 1:04:10.720 black mail, small company, how did you get these partnerships. 1:04:10.760 --> 1:04:14.439 I got these partnerships through calculated communication. I attended one 1:04:14.520 --> 1:04:18.200 Brooklyn Nets game, just a regular game as a fan. 1:04:18.200 --> 1:04:20.040 I'm gonna watch this game, got tickets to the game, 1:04:20.640 --> 1:04:23.280 and this one gentleman handed me the tickets. Right, I'm 1:04:23.320 --> 1:04:24.720 not going to give the who storyway because you gotta 1:04:24.720 --> 1:04:27.280 read the book. One gentleman handed me the tickets. So 1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:29.640 say this as a movie, as a gentleman handled me 1:04:29.640 --> 1:04:32.680 the tickets, and I hold the tickets, and we fast forward. 1:04:32.680 --> 1:04:34.360 You see me in the office with the owners of 1:04:34.400 --> 1:04:38.560 the Brooklyn Nets negotiating deals just from attending one game. 1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:41.440 So that's something that's paramount, Like how did you do that? 1:04:41.600 --> 1:04:44.400 Because everyone always asks me, like I see you know 1:04:44.440 --> 1:04:46.360 you're doing these deals of Major League Baseball. You're doing 1:04:46.360 --> 1:04:48.240 these deals with the Nets. You're doing these deals with deliberty. 1:04:48.280 --> 1:04:49.919 How did you do it? I just went to the game. 1:04:50.080 --> 1:04:52.520 I go to games all the time. Well, get the 1:04:52.520 --> 1:04:54.959 book and I show you how to do it. That's 1:04:55.040 --> 1:04:55.760 one key. 1:04:55.720 --> 1:04:58.240 You're intentional about when you walk in the States. 1:04:58.760 --> 1:05:01.680 Well, let's say this, right, in any room you walk into, 1:05:03.240 --> 1:05:05.960 if it's ten people in the room, at least two 1:05:05.960 --> 1:05:09.840 people can help you advance. If it's ten in any room, 1:05:10.160 --> 1:05:12.200 at least two people in a room of ten can 1:05:12.240 --> 1:05:16.720 help you advance. This ability and skill is finding out 1:05:16.720 --> 1:05:19.200 who those two people are, because you're not. 1:05:19.160 --> 1:05:21.479 The Jamilitary Davis model, right, not. 1:05:21.360 --> 1:05:23.080 Walking up to him with a clipboard like, hey, so 1:05:23.120 --> 1:05:25.400 what do you do you do this? No, it's ten 1:05:25.440 --> 1:05:27.600 people in them. So any room that I walk into, 1:05:28.280 --> 1:05:29.760 I say, all right, I need to walk out of 1:05:29.800 --> 1:05:31.720 here with something. I need to walk out of here 1:05:31.760 --> 1:05:32.200 with something. 1:05:32.280 --> 1:05:35.400 Like Denzel said, I'm. 1:05:34.640 --> 1:05:38.040 Leaving with something. I'm leaving with something. So even if 1:05:38.040 --> 1:05:41.040 I'm getting ready for like a networking event, like you 1:05:41.040 --> 1:05:42.840 know how sometimes you don't want to go out, I'm like, 1:05:42.840 --> 1:05:45.000 all right, let me go to this thing, let me 1:05:45.040 --> 1:05:47.600 go to this dinner. As I'm getting there, I say, 1:05:47.840 --> 1:05:50.240 I'm leaving here with something. I'm leaving What am I 1:05:50.320 --> 1:05:53.160 leaving with? Who's here? Who's at the o? Temika's at 1:05:53.160 --> 1:05:56.400 the dinner. My song's at the dinner. All right, I 1:05:56.440 --> 1:05:57.840 know a little bit about my song. I'm not going 1:05:57.840 --> 1:05:59.960 to get you ready. I studied my song. I watch something. 1:06:00.400 --> 1:06:03.920 I know his son plays soccer, my daughter's a dancer. 1:06:03.960 --> 1:06:06.680 I know a little bit about Tamika. All right, okay, 1:06:06.720 --> 1:06:08.000 soon as I sit next to Meka, this is what 1:06:08.000 --> 1:06:10.200 I'm going about. She mentioned something about living in Hall 1:06:10.280 --> 1:06:12.000 and blah blah blah blah blah blah. I'm gonna have 1:06:12.040 --> 1:06:15.040 a thirty minute conversation with you about Harlem, and before 1:06:15.080 --> 1:06:19.040 you know it, we're gonna be doing business. My son 1:06:19.200 --> 1:06:21.280 sons play soccer, my daughter dances. 1:06:21.400 --> 1:06:22.160 All right, how was. 1:06:22.120 --> 1:06:24.040 It being a soccer dad. I'll tell you how it's 1:06:24.040 --> 1:06:26.560 being a dance Da soccer dad, dance that soccer d dancer. 1:06:26.600 --> 1:06:28.960 Ah'll be laughing, joking. Next you know, me and my 1:06:29.040 --> 1:06:33.360 song is doing great business. But it's strategies to get there. 1:06:33.920 --> 1:06:34.880 You gotta get the book, so you. 1:06:35.400 --> 1:06:36.680 Get the book for the strategy. 1:06:36.880 --> 1:06:37.880 To get the book for the strategy. 1:06:37.960 --> 1:06:40.800 Next time you come, make sure you bring me a 1:06:40.880 --> 1:06:44.600 small sweatshirt so they don't want to together. 1:06:44.920 --> 1:06:47.000 I don't want no extra small, so you don't want 1:06:47.040 --> 1:06:49.520 to fish small. I can't even fitish small. 1:06:49.640 --> 1:06:52.000 But it just feel bad that you brought me a 1:06:52.080 --> 1:06:55.440 medium or that wasn't effective community cast. 1:06:56.280 --> 1:06:59.240 I needed you to bring both sides so that I would. 1:06:59.040 --> 1:07:01.440 Have to take you something because I actually I was 1:07:01.440 --> 1:07:04.200 in the inventory. I was looking for small, but I 1:07:04.240 --> 1:07:06.160 found like a bunch of mediums. I'm like, all right, 1:07:06.240 --> 1:07:07.440 let me just grab this medium. 1:07:08.040 --> 1:07:10.320 Nah, I appreciate it so well. Now I'm at least 1:07:10.360 --> 1:07:13.280 in the loop. Everybody had this stuff. I had nothing. 1:07:13.360 --> 1:07:16.400 No I got you. I'll make sure I take it. 1:07:17.040 --> 1:07:19.920 You know, it's so much more that we can talk about. 1:07:19.960 --> 1:07:21.360 But people should get the book. 1:07:22.480 --> 1:07:22.680 You know. 1:07:22.800 --> 1:07:26.280 I find myself on my book tour just talking through 1:07:26.400 --> 1:07:28.800 everything and feeling like these people are even going to 1:07:28.840 --> 1:07:31.560 read it. But it does encourage folks because they're like, oh, no, 1:07:31.680 --> 1:07:34.240 I have to get into the pages. But I do 1:07:34.320 --> 1:07:37.120 want people to pick your book up. How can they 1:07:37.280 --> 1:07:37.920 get the book? 1:07:38.000 --> 1:07:38.560 First of all? 1:07:39.000 --> 1:07:43.240 And then are you out like speaking and touring? Is 1:07:43.280 --> 1:07:45.960 that something that you're open to do? If somebody's listening 1:07:46.000 --> 1:07:47.920 in they're like, oh, I need this type of person 1:07:47.960 --> 1:07:49.920 to come and speak at my school or teach a 1:07:49.960 --> 1:07:51.080 class or whatever. 1:07:51.280 --> 1:07:54.600 Well, first answer to the question, you can pick up 1:07:54.640 --> 1:07:57.120 the book on Amazon. You can go to Amazon and 1:07:57.160 --> 1:07:59.800 the search engine and just put in It's Beyond Words by. 1:07:59.680 --> 1:08:00.640 How with Wilkerson? 1:08:01.120 --> 1:08:02.320 Now your real name. 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:07.680 Harold Wilkerson. Yeah, I couldn't put because I'm not saying 1:08:07.680 --> 1:08:09.600 everyone knows me, because some people are going to watch like, 1:08:09.640 --> 1:08:10.520 who the hell is this guy? 1:08:10.600 --> 1:08:10.720 Right? 1:08:10.760 --> 1:08:13.080 And that's fine. But for the people that do know me, 1:08:13.120 --> 1:08:16.040 they know Harry O. They have no idea that I'm 1:08:16.040 --> 1:08:19.439 a college professor. They have no idea that there's Harold 1:08:19.479 --> 1:08:22.400 Wilkerson that is a whole other person. So I'm introducing 1:08:22.439 --> 1:08:25.559 the world to well, to the people that don't know 1:08:25.600 --> 1:08:29.040 Harold Wilkerson, I'm introducing them to Harold Wilkinson. So you 1:08:29.040 --> 1:08:32.120 can get the book on Amazon. Now to your second question, 1:08:32.720 --> 1:08:35.160 speaking engagement to talk about the book, Yes, I'm open 1:08:35.200 --> 1:08:36.600 to it. It took a long time for me to 1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:39.280 get to that point of it because working behind the 1:08:39.360 --> 1:08:42.120 scenes so long, I'm so comfortable with saying, hey, mice, 1:08:42.160 --> 1:08:44.200 I got something for you to do, and to me, 1:08:44.280 --> 1:08:45.800 I got something for you to do, and I just 1:08:45.840 --> 1:08:49.880 stand back and just be comfortable. But I had to 1:08:49.920 --> 1:08:52.559 write this book for two reasons. For a bunch of reasons, 1:08:52.600 --> 1:08:55.479 but two reasons. I want to mention. I tell my 1:08:55.600 --> 1:08:59.559 daughter that everybody wants to live forever. Everybody wants to 1:08:59.560 --> 1:09:01.679 live forever. Everybody I don't want. I'm wanna live forever. 1:09:02.040 --> 1:09:04.040 But there are only two ways you do that. You 1:09:04.080 --> 1:09:07.400 either make a difference or you influence somebody. That's the 1:09:07.439 --> 1:09:11.160 only way your name will live forever. So I decided 1:09:11.200 --> 1:09:13.160 this year this book needs to finish and come and 1:09:13.200 --> 1:09:14.880 come out because I want to leave a piece of 1:09:14.880 --> 1:09:19.519 me here like this hopefully will live past me. So 1:09:19.600 --> 1:09:22.040 I tell my kid, well, I didn't tell her this 1:09:22.040 --> 1:09:23.559 part because I didn't want to spook her out. But 1:09:24.800 --> 1:09:28.360 whenever daddy's gone, you need to hear my voice. You 1:09:28.640 --> 1:09:31.280 pick up the book, you're gonna hear your daddy's. 1:09:30.960 --> 1:09:32.280 Voice all through there. 1:09:32.680 --> 1:09:35.280 So I said, all right, I could be behind the 1:09:35.320 --> 1:09:38.400 scenes still and be Harry O. Harold is executive, but 1:09:38.880 --> 1:09:41.080 I need to leave a piece of me here. It's 1:09:41.120 --> 1:09:44.920 nothing better than leaving your mind here, right, So that's 1:09:44.920 --> 1:09:45.920 why the books. 1:09:49.920 --> 1:09:51.759 We got to get out here, Go and get this book. 1:09:52.439 --> 1:09:58.440 It's beyond words. The Art of Calculated Communication by Harold Wilkeson. 1:09:59.600 --> 1:10:03.080 Harold, I'm impressed, and I don't be saying I'm impressed. 1:10:05.000 --> 1:10:07.120 What I was saying is I know mice for a 1:10:07.160 --> 1:10:09.280 very long time. I know his intelligent level, I know 1:10:09.320 --> 1:10:11.600 his integrity, I know all these things. You have an 1:10:11.600 --> 1:10:14.200 association where we've been around a couple of times. But 1:10:14.320 --> 1:10:18.040 I also know your level of intelligence. I pay attention 1:10:18.080 --> 1:10:20.880 to it. So as I was coming here, I'm like, 1:10:21.040 --> 1:10:24.639 all right, I know how I know Mice, right, I said, 1:10:24.640 --> 1:10:29.360 But sitting across to me, I gotta bring my a game. 1:10:30.360 --> 1:10:36.720 I gotta know listen, thank you, because no, it's the 1:10:36.760 --> 1:10:39.639 truth when you when you study a person from a distance, 1:10:39.680 --> 1:10:42.000 which is a part of calculator communication, when you're studying 1:10:42.000 --> 1:10:44.280 a person from a distance, you're like, all right, you know, 1:10:44.439 --> 1:10:46.879 you know how she feels about views. She's strong, passionate, 1:10:46.920 --> 1:10:50.280 and she's so intelligent, and she'll call you out on bs. 1:10:50.960 --> 1:10:53.760 You better bring your a game. Me and Mice could 1:10:53.800 --> 1:10:57.080 talk about everything under the sun. When the mics off everything, 1:10:57.080 --> 1:10:58.640 we can have intelligent converice. We can have some of 1:10:58.640 --> 1:11:01.000 the most crazy conversations. But I'm like, all right, I'm 1:11:01.040 --> 1:11:02.639 sitting next to the black right now. 1:11:02.680 --> 1:11:05.160 This is different. It's my job. Yeah, exactly. 1:11:06.720 --> 1:11:10.920 Job, I said. I had to prepare myself because I'm 1:11:10.920 --> 1:11:12.280 sitting next you to me, and that's why I wore 1:11:12.320 --> 1:11:15.920 the jacket. She might like the jacket, I said, she 1:11:16.000 --> 1:11:18.000 might like the jackets. I'm with the jacket. 1:11:18.479 --> 1:11:19.959 I appreciate the reference. 1:11:20.080 --> 1:11:24.800 I appreciate the appreciation, but you know, when it all 1:11:24.880 --> 1:11:27.320 gets down to the nitty gritty of it all, I'm 1:11:27.360 --> 1:11:30.680 just a regular human girl from Harlem, just like you. 1:11:30.800 --> 1:11:33.400 So I can have any conversation. You call me and 1:11:33.400 --> 1:11:36.679 say the ignorant stuff and we can argue about that, 1:11:37.000 --> 1:11:39.160 or we can talk about the business. But one thing 1:11:39.200 --> 1:11:42.200 I would say, or I will say, is that, for 1:11:42.240 --> 1:11:45.320 the most part, even an ignorant conversation, I'm always trying 1:11:45.360 --> 1:11:47.519 to find the importance of like. 1:11:47.479 --> 1:11:49.439 Where are we going with this? What are we talking about? 1:11:49.479 --> 1:11:51.920 Because we're not voting for Trump? So I get it. 1:11:52.200 --> 1:11:54.200 We can joke if we can lab but we're not 1:11:54.360 --> 1:11:56.080 voting for Trump. That's that's it. 1:11:56.200 --> 1:11:58.240 Absolutely, I want to ask something because you said something. 1:11:58.280 --> 1:12:02.120 It's in my book too, as far as calculated cammunication. Right, So, say, 1:12:02.200 --> 1:12:04.280 if a person is coming to talk to you and 1:12:04.320 --> 1:12:06.320 say they have to give up their A game and 1:12:06.360 --> 1:12:08.599 they're a little bit nervous, I'm talking with Tamika, and 1:12:08.640 --> 1:12:10.960 I have this in my book. The thing to do 1:12:11.200 --> 1:12:14.920 is I have to sit across from you and find 1:12:14.960 --> 1:12:17.800 that girl from Harlem. I'm not I'm not talking to 1:12:17.840 --> 1:12:21.920 Tamika man. You know, I'm not, in my mind a 1:12:21.920 --> 1:12:25.240 girl from Harlem talk to girls from Harlem all day. 1:12:25.280 --> 1:12:27.360 I talked the good. So as I'm talking to you, 1:12:27.400 --> 1:12:29.200 I'm saying to myself, this is not to mea man, 1:12:29.200 --> 1:12:30.800 That's what it's a girl from Halem. So when you're 1:12:30.800 --> 1:12:32.760 sitting across and you having a meeting with jay Z, 1:12:32.880 --> 1:12:34.559 like some people, a man, I got this, got this 1:12:34.640 --> 1:12:35.400 meeting with jay Z. 1:12:35.960 --> 1:12:37.479 Messing yourself, messing yourself. 1:12:38.439 --> 1:12:40.960 You're going into the You're going into this game with 1:12:41.000 --> 1:12:43.600 the wrong strategy. Yes, just as a meeting with jay Z, 1:12:44.240 --> 1:12:47.040 you're having a meeting with this dude from Brooklyn, that's 1:12:47.040 --> 1:12:49.160 who you're meeting with, and you a guy from the Bronx, 1:12:49.400 --> 1:12:51.599 like he's a dude from Brooklyn. If I go in 1:12:51.640 --> 1:12:56.760 there with his perception in my mind, I'm at a disadvantage. 1:12:57.120 --> 1:12:57.519 I lost. 1:12:57.600 --> 1:13:01.080 But let's just be clear, because people listen to every 1:13:01.160 --> 1:13:04.559 word and they will take exactly what you're saying and 1:13:04.600 --> 1:13:05.160 apply it. 1:13:05.680 --> 1:13:08.040 Don't go to the meeting with jay Z talking ma, yo, 1:13:08.200 --> 1:13:10.040 what's up? Yo? Are you doing? 1:13:10.120 --> 1:13:10.240 Yo? 1:13:10.840 --> 1:13:11.519 That's not that. 1:13:12.080 --> 1:13:17.120 But you know in a small because listen, when you 1:13:17.160 --> 1:13:19.880 look at jay Z circle right, when you look at 1:13:19.960 --> 1:13:24.000 Wan right, Wan is the most authentic person he still 1:13:25.240 --> 1:13:27.439 but he ain't saying Yo, what I'm just saying. Wan 1:13:27.680 --> 1:13:29.720 was having a regular conversation with him. 1:13:30.080 --> 1:13:30.599 I get that. 1:13:30.680 --> 1:13:33.280 This is what what I'm saying, just to his point, 1:13:33.360 --> 1:13:34.760 right to his point was. 1:13:35.080 --> 1:13:38.240 Yan ain't no executive heard the nigga from the streets 1:13:38.760 --> 1:13:42.000 that met with Jay and treated him like yo, what's up? 1:13:42.680 --> 1:13:45.360 And they and instead and when I talked to me 1:13:45.400 --> 1:13:48.120 and Wong got this same. That's the way his communication 1:13:48.280 --> 1:13:49.960 is authentic all around the boarder. 1:13:50.160 --> 1:13:53.560 I don't disagree, but I think there is a difference 1:13:53.760 --> 1:13:54.479 because some. 1:13:54.439 --> 1:13:56.320 People try. 1:14:01.320 --> 1:14:03.800 And You're absolutely right. So like the point I'm making, 1:14:03.800 --> 1:14:05.840 like as far as in with the book, No, you're 1:14:05.840 --> 1:14:08.760 not going to go in there and be unprofessional, but 1:14:08.920 --> 1:14:12.320 if you're going to this meeting with this figure, to 1:14:12.400 --> 1:14:16.639 prepare yourself for this meeting, don't think about them as 1:14:16.720 --> 1:14:18.599 the person you've been listening to their albums and watching 1:14:18.600 --> 1:14:22.160 their videos, don't think about them that way. I need 1:14:22.200 --> 1:14:28.000 to find who you are inside that I relate to. Okay, yeah, 1:14:28.080 --> 1:14:29.800 I'm not jay Z. I didn't sell a million brothers. 1:14:29.840 --> 1:14:32.600 I didn't do this, but you grew up in the projects. 1:14:32.800 --> 1:14:34.880 This this and that I'm talking to that person right there. 1:14:36.080 --> 1:14:40.439 I'm mentally preparing myself to have that conversation. 1:14:40.520 --> 1:14:42.439 Yeah, I got to read the book because what about 1:14:42.479 --> 1:14:46.400 the people who don't want to be reminded that they're 1:14:46.400 --> 1:14:48.719 from the projects and it's just the regular person. 1:14:48.880 --> 1:14:50.200 But no, here's the thing they don't want to be. 1:14:50.439 --> 1:14:52.559 You're gonna talk about it. 1:14:52.600 --> 1:14:54.840 You're not talking about it all it's in my head. 1:14:55.400 --> 1:14:58.720 It's all right. So my last example, I'm sorry. I 1:14:58.760 --> 1:15:01.120 had a friend I'm not gonna mens his name. He 1:15:01.160 --> 1:15:04.240 was dating a movie star, big movie star, and he 1:15:04.320 --> 1:15:06.080 was like, yo, about to go out to eat ya. 1:15:06.520 --> 1:15:09.320 You're nervousness and this and that. So I would say, listen, 1:15:10.080 --> 1:15:13.439 stay off her Instagram, don't watch any of her movies, 1:15:13.760 --> 1:15:16.840 don't do that. He's like, wow, I said, because you're 1:15:16.880 --> 1:15:19.559 talking to the perception of the person. I said, when 1:15:19.600 --> 1:15:22.360 you're doing that, you're at a disadvantage. She's going out 1:15:22.360 --> 1:15:23.200 on a date with you. 1:15:23.360 --> 1:15:25.200 She already likes exactly. 1:15:25.600 --> 1:15:28.760 You got a phone number, she already likes you. So 1:15:28.840 --> 1:15:30.720 but if you study, if you're sitting there watching TV 1:15:30.800 --> 1:15:33.639 looking like, oh my god, hearing everything on the radio 1:15:33.680 --> 1:15:36.480 about her, you may go add it at a disadvantage. 1:15:36.520 --> 1:15:39.599 So in your head, you gotta suppress that idea of them. 1:15:40.000 --> 1:15:42.519 I'm just talking to a girl from Harlem. That's not 1:15:42.560 --> 1:15:42.920 to me it. 1:15:43.920 --> 1:15:45.320 I love it, I love it, I love it. 1:15:45.360 --> 1:15:46.439 The next thing, you know, she's. 1:15:46.280 --> 1:15:46.880 Like, oh, I love you. 1:15:46.920 --> 1:15:52.760 So it's so cool to be around. Like, yeah, I know, calculator, calculator, calculator. 1:15:53.760 --> 1:15:56.639 You gotta pick up the book for it, the bookcase. 1:15:56.680 --> 1:15:59.000 I know what y'all gonna say about that last comment, 1:15:59.040 --> 1:15:59.639 but you know. 1:16:00.240 --> 1:16:01.360 It's called games. 1:16:01.360 --> 1:16:05.600 Actually, I got to say something that it's not to 1:16:05.640 --> 1:16:06.440 be manipulative. 1:16:06.840 --> 1:16:07.839 You said that already. 1:16:08.120 --> 1:16:14.920 It's it's because a man natural nervousness with a beautiful woman. 1:16:14.960 --> 1:16:17.600 I don't care what men tell you. They're going to 1:16:17.680 --> 1:16:22.559 have a natural nervousness around a beautiful woman. So how 1:16:22.600 --> 1:16:25.000 do you suppress that nervous How do you prepare for 1:16:25.040 --> 1:16:25.439 the game? 1:16:28.400 --> 1:16:30.479 You gotta you gotta visions Like she got a book 1:16:30.520 --> 1:16:32.720 in her nose. You know what I'm saying. She got 1:16:32.720 --> 1:16:34.080 a booking like everybody. 1:16:33.920 --> 1:16:35.760 Looking got a book. Ends up. 1:16:37.120 --> 1:16:43.240 He's right, you just farted. 1:16:43.320 --> 1:16:49.040 Just come on, man, she fought. Yeah, I love you. 1:16:49.160 --> 1:16:50.200 Shout out to my brother. 1:16:50.240 --> 1:16:52.440 Wilson make sure you go get that book on Amazon. 1:16:52.720 --> 1:16:55.960 It's a dope book. He's a dope dude. I love you. 1:16:56.240 --> 1:16:58.000 Thank you so much for comment. 1:16:58.640 --> 1:17:00.640 Thank you for having me appreciate it. 1:17:01.720 --> 1:17:04.920 And I'm going on shout out to my brother Harrio. 1:17:05.640 --> 1:17:07.439 You know, I can't wait to read the book. 1:17:07.800 --> 1:17:08.640 Very smart. 1:17:10.360 --> 1:17:10.479 Man. 1:17:11.280 --> 1:17:11.519 Watch. 1:17:11.600 --> 1:17:14.400 I watched him just grow like literally from the sand 1:17:14.439 --> 1:17:15.519 box second and third grade. 1:17:15.560 --> 1:17:18.800 We was in elementary school together, you know. I mean, well, he. 1:17:18.760 --> 1:17:21.160 Went to the Catholic school, but we went We lived 1:17:21.200 --> 1:17:23.280 right down the block from each other, you know, and 1:17:23.320 --> 1:17:26.080 he was actually one of the first people rapping on 1:17:26.120 --> 1:17:28.360 the block when you know, he was the kid that 1:17:28.479 --> 1:17:31.000 was rapping. I got into it later than everybody else, 1:17:31.040 --> 1:17:33.759 and I just, you know, catapulted. So when I first 1:17:33.800 --> 1:17:35.200 got into it, he was like one of the people 1:17:35.200 --> 1:17:37.120 I'm gonna getting old to come with us, you know. 1:17:37.160 --> 1:17:39.519 He was like we was picking our team of artists, 1:17:39.560 --> 1:17:41.360 and he was like one of the people that I 1:17:41.400 --> 1:17:43.639 was like, I'm gonna grab him a couple of other dudes, 1:17:43.640 --> 1:17:44.800 so shout out to him. 1:17:44.960 --> 1:17:48.440 Yeah, he was very smart and he seems very intentional 1:17:48.439 --> 1:17:51.200 about how he lives his life, so that's a good thing. 1:17:51.280 --> 1:17:53.160 It was really, you know, it's refreshing. A lot of 1:17:53.200 --> 1:17:55.400 people like to say, well, where are the black men 1:17:55.479 --> 1:17:58.400 that do X, Y and Z. There's many, you know, 1:17:58.479 --> 1:18:05.000 and they're not all trolls and podcasters who are spewing stupidity. 1:18:05.400 --> 1:18:06.760 There are many. 1:18:06.360 --> 1:18:11.880 More young men and men grown men like HARRYO and 1:18:11.960 --> 1:18:15.599 yourself and others that we respect. So I found his 1:18:15.960 --> 1:18:19.240 interview to be very informing, and I found him to 1:18:19.479 --> 1:18:20.679 have something unique. 1:18:20.880 --> 1:18:28.040 Yes, it's beyond words. It's the art of calculated, calculated communication. 1:18:28.560 --> 1:18:31.080 So you go get that book. And that brings me 1:18:31.680 --> 1:18:33.160 to my I don't get it because this is a 1:18:33.320 --> 1:18:39.720 perfect segue. We're talking about strong, real good men, right, 1:18:40.160 --> 1:18:43.320 And I had I've seen a post the other other 1:18:43.400 --> 1:18:48.639 day from Plies and Plots was like, don't matter how 1:18:48.760 --> 1:18:52.559 much you try, you can't make a fuck nigga real 1:18:52.600 --> 1:18:55.599 in it. It don't matter. It just it ain't gonna work. 1:18:55.640 --> 1:18:57.559 You could do, you could say, you could do whatever 1:18:57.600 --> 1:18:59.719 you want. A fuck nigga's gonna be a fuck nigga. 1:19:00.160 --> 1:19:01.800 Real nigga's gonna be a real nigg and it's gonna 1:19:01.800 --> 1:19:04.760 be it's gonna be a separation between the two. 1:19:04.960 --> 1:19:10.040 So for my I don't get it today. It's in 1:19:10.160 --> 1:19:16.479 the realm of that. Right. There are women who are 1:19:16.880 --> 1:19:18.439 having babies. 1:19:19.520 --> 1:19:23.360 With fuck niggas, right, and some of them and some 1:19:23.400 --> 1:19:24.880 of them is not all fuck niggas, but some of 1:19:24.920 --> 1:19:27.840 them are fuck niggas. They are having babies with men 1:19:28.720 --> 1:19:32.439 who have no intention of taking care of their kids. 1:19:33.680 --> 1:19:35.840 They just don't want the kids, like women are having 1:19:35.840 --> 1:19:39.599 sex with them, people engaging sexual activities. They just wanted 1:19:39.600 --> 1:19:42.639 the sex. And then the women gets pregnant. She goes 1:19:42.680 --> 1:19:44.400 to the man who says, I want nothing to do 1:19:44.439 --> 1:19:50.000 with the baby. I do not get why a woman 1:19:50.120 --> 1:19:54.160 makes a decision to have that baby and then gets 1:19:54.280 --> 1:19:57.320 mad at the nigga that ain't taking care of the baby. 1:19:57.840 --> 1:20:00.920 I just don't for the life of me, right, Because 1:20:00.920 --> 1:20:02.919 if I made a decision, if I come to somebody 1:20:03.120 --> 1:20:06.240 and say hey, I'm doing such and such, are you 1:20:06.240 --> 1:20:09.240 gonna be with me and you say no, I have 1:20:09.479 --> 1:20:14.040 no expectation of you to contribute to anything after you 1:20:14.120 --> 1:20:18.439 tell me no, right, and a fuck nigga right if you, 1:20:18.680 --> 1:20:20.720 Because the average man will say no, I don't want it. 1:20:20.720 --> 1:20:24.519 When the baby gets here, his realness is gonna kick 1:20:24.560 --> 1:20:25.960 in and say, you know what, I'm gonna do what 1:20:25.960 --> 1:20:27.599 I was supposed to because that's my child. 1:20:28.080 --> 1:20:30.920 But when you do that with a fuck nigga, he's 1:20:30.960 --> 1:20:34.720 going to do a fuck nigga. Shit, Oh god, it's 1:20:34.760 --> 1:20:35.360 fuck nigga. 1:20:37.120 --> 1:20:39.519 That's what's gonna happen. So what I'm saying is when 1:20:39.560 --> 1:20:42.120 you are having a baby with a man who has 1:20:42.200 --> 1:20:44.760 no intention of taking care of a baby, I think 1:20:44.800 --> 1:20:48.080 that it's a disservice to the child because what happens 1:20:48.160 --> 1:20:50.760 is there's a child that grows up thinking that they're 1:20:50.760 --> 1:20:54.880 not wanted. Right, that there's a child who now they 1:20:54.960 --> 1:20:57.439 have to know that the father who created them never 1:20:57.479 --> 1:21:00.680 even wanted them. To beat it, they have this the 1:21:01.360 --> 1:21:04.439 issues that they have within themselves, feeling like they're not wanted, 1:21:04.479 --> 1:21:08.200 they're not loved, And if you if you haven't figured 1:21:08.240 --> 1:21:10.719 out a way to compensate that, if you haven't decided, 1:21:10.760 --> 1:21:12.800 you know what, I'm going to have this raised this 1:21:13.000 --> 1:21:16.320 child independent of that man. Right, I'm not even gonna 1:21:16.400 --> 1:21:18.400 let the baby know that the father don't want them. 1:21:19.160 --> 1:21:21.760 For you to have that child and then subject. 1:21:21.400 --> 1:21:23.200 That child and you have to protect the father. 1:21:23.760 --> 1:21:24.960 No, it's not protecting the few. 1:21:25.240 --> 1:21:30.040 When you say I'm not gonna let the baby know. 1:21:30.880 --> 1:21:33.400 I don't know how else can you let a baby know? 1:21:33.600 --> 1:21:36.840 When a baby says to you, what happened to my dad, 1:21:37.520 --> 1:21:40.040 there's no way for you to not let them know. 1:21:40.280 --> 1:21:43.400 Your dad chose not to be involved in your life. 1:21:43.439 --> 1:21:44.639 So when you say, even. 1:21:45.080 --> 1:21:46.880 I would I not say that. 1:21:46.800 --> 1:21:50.720 That's because why should I say? 1:21:50.800 --> 1:21:52.679 Because I think it harms the child. 1:21:52.760 --> 1:21:54.879 But it doesn't matter. The father is a part. 1:21:54.720 --> 1:21:58.320 Of the harm, but the mother should not be carrying 1:21:58.800 --> 1:22:00.000 of all the harm. 1:22:00.120 --> 1:22:03.120 But it's not. The mother is not carrying the burden 1:22:03.160 --> 1:22:03.840 of all the harm. 1:22:04.520 --> 1:22:07.120 Right if I'm trying to protect my child, right, if 1:22:07.280 --> 1:22:10.519 I if me this is me protection of my child. 1:22:11.560 --> 1:22:13.720 Right If somebody comes to me, if my child is 1:22:13.760 --> 1:22:17.200 an artist and they rap, and somebody says, your. 1:22:17.200 --> 1:22:20.800 Child is terrible, the word fucking rap, because I. 1:22:20.760 --> 1:22:23.640 Want you to understand, So let me say it. 1:22:23.680 --> 1:22:26.160 So let me say it first, because the world might understand. 1:22:26.200 --> 1:22:27.800 You might not get it. Let me say it to 1:22:27.840 --> 1:22:28.640 the world can get it. 1:22:28.920 --> 1:22:32.360 If somebody comes with my child sings and they hear 1:22:32.479 --> 1:22:33.960 my child sing and they come to me and say 1:22:34.000 --> 1:22:36.200 your child is terrible, I don't want nothing to do 1:22:36.320 --> 1:22:39.600 with it. He's horrible, and child comes to me and 1:22:39.680 --> 1:22:42.439 asks me, what did they say about me? Singing, I'm 1:22:42.479 --> 1:22:45.880 not telling them that they say you horrible. I'm gonna 1:22:45.880 --> 1:22:47.680 say they just don't worry about that. We're gonna go 1:22:48.040 --> 1:22:51.439 I'm not I'm not going to take my child's pride. 1:22:51.439 --> 1:22:53.320 I'm not going to take their self worth. 1:22:53.360 --> 1:22:57.080 I'm not going to diminish their confidence because I want 1:22:57.120 --> 1:22:59.920 to be honest with them, right And that's not me. 1:23:00.680 --> 1:23:04.439 And so when I'm making a comparison, if the father, 1:23:05.280 --> 1:23:07.439 you and the father never had a relationship with anything, 1:23:07.479 --> 1:23:09.000 and the father said I want nothing to do with 1:23:09.040 --> 1:23:12.719 that child, fucked that child. But whatever he says, however harsh, 1:23:12.880 --> 1:23:16.679 whatever he's and he lives that way. If you decide 1:23:16.680 --> 1:23:18.960 to have that child, do you think it benefits you 1:23:19.479 --> 1:23:21.439 to tell the child that the child the father, who 1:23:21.439 --> 1:23:24.240 don't care nothing about them anyway, didn't want nothing to 1:23:24.280 --> 1:23:26.439 do with them, or do you think it hurts the child? 1:23:27.439 --> 1:23:27.720 Who are you? 1:23:27.880 --> 1:23:31.439 Who do you think that you are protecting when you 1:23:31.720 --> 1:23:34.320 if you tell a child, you don't even involve that 1:23:34.400 --> 1:23:36.639 information to the child. You decide to raise the child 1:23:36.640 --> 1:23:40.280 independent and your father passed away whenever I'd rather protect 1:23:40.320 --> 1:23:40.800 my child. 1:23:40.960 --> 1:23:43.160 Yeah, I don't think that that's protecting the child, because 1:23:43.160 --> 1:23:46.000 what happens is later on in life when kids find 1:23:46.000 --> 1:23:49.880 out the truth, they have resentment towards both parents, and 1:23:50.120 --> 1:23:51.880 particularly the parent who lie. 1:23:52.280 --> 1:23:53.360 And so I think. 1:23:53.120 --> 1:23:56.240 That the whole premise of everything that you're saying is 1:23:56.360 --> 1:24:00.360 very troubling because the start of it comes from people 1:24:00.479 --> 1:24:04.920 not having particularly unprotected sex and we've discussed this before, 1:24:05.320 --> 1:24:08.120 or having sex at all. If we know that sex 1:24:08.320 --> 1:24:11.479 leads to babies, and so if we are having sex 1:24:11.520 --> 1:24:14.320 and a man is engaged in that, then he has 1:24:14.400 --> 1:24:17.639 to be responsible for the risk of what he's doing, 1:24:18.080 --> 1:24:20.599 just like the woman has to be responsible for the risk. 1:24:20.880 --> 1:24:24.400 Those risks are not just babies. Those risks are sometimes 1:24:24.720 --> 1:24:28.120 a disease. Those risks can be all types of things 1:24:28.160 --> 1:24:32.600 that can happen when you exchange bodily fluid and intimacy 1:24:32.680 --> 1:24:35.840 with another person. So that's first off, right, But you 1:24:35.920 --> 1:24:39.000 can't control people or make them stay in a situation 1:24:39.360 --> 1:24:42.360 where they don't want to be. So, now when you 1:24:42.479 --> 1:24:46.559 said something that I really take issue with that you 1:24:46.640 --> 1:24:49.519 can't be mad at the person because they don't want 1:24:49.520 --> 1:24:51.439 to have anything to do with the child. Oh no, 1:24:51.560 --> 1:24:53.400 you could be mad at a whole lot of things. 1:24:53.720 --> 1:24:57.880 Just because you understood the chances that they wouldn't want 1:24:57.880 --> 1:25:00.360 to be involved does not mean that you don't have 1:25:00.479 --> 1:25:05.400 the right to feel a way to be upset. So, now, 1:25:05.640 --> 1:25:07.880 when your child is at the age and when their 1:25:07.960 --> 1:25:10.800 child is four years old or five years old and 1:25:10.840 --> 1:25:14.160 they're asking about their dad. No, and by the way, 1:25:14.240 --> 1:25:16.280 I don't think that you can compare this to a 1:25:16.320 --> 1:25:19.040 singing career or art or something of that. 1:25:19.080 --> 1:25:21.439 This is about the other person who is. 1:25:21.479 --> 1:25:26.760 Responsible for them being born for their life. So when 1:25:26.760 --> 1:25:29.080 a person, a child that's three or four or five 1:25:29.160 --> 1:25:32.280 years old, says to you, well, mommy, I see daddy. 1:25:32.439 --> 1:25:34.599 I see this one has a dad and that one 1:25:34.680 --> 1:25:37.240 has a dad. Why don't I have a dad? The 1:25:37.240 --> 1:25:41.040 appropriate thing that I would do is to say, listen, mommy, 1:25:41.080 --> 1:25:43.800 and the people whatever village, we love you very much. 1:25:44.080 --> 1:25:46.960 As you get older, I will explain more to you 1:25:47.040 --> 1:25:49.400 about your dad, But for now, I want you to 1:25:49.520 --> 1:25:52.760 focus on you and me. You know, this family and 1:25:52.800 --> 1:25:55.040 what's trying to probably. But I don't think that you 1:25:55.080 --> 1:25:59.280 should ever lie about the circumstances. Now, when they get 1:25:59.320 --> 1:26:02.880 to be eight or nine and they're really concerned they 1:26:02.920 --> 1:26:03.680 really want to know. 1:26:03.880 --> 1:26:05.240 Tell them the whole story. 1:26:05.479 --> 1:26:09.240 You know what, I don't know. I don't know. I 1:26:09.240 --> 1:26:14.559 don't just damaging my sign. 1:26:14.920 --> 1:26:16.720 Let me tell you something. And when I say tell 1:26:16.760 --> 1:26:20.880 them the whole story, let me finish my point. Okay, 1:26:20.920 --> 1:26:23.880 First of all, these seven or eight year olds are 1:26:23.880 --> 1:26:27.240 not like the seven and eight year olds back then. Okay, 1:26:27.439 --> 1:26:31.920 you have children that are extremely intelligent, and most of 1:26:31.960 --> 1:26:34.960 the people I know, even my granddaughter at two years old, 1:26:35.080 --> 1:26:37.200 I'm like, bro, where did you get how do you 1:26:37.360 --> 1:26:40.760 even know? Like, where do the concepts come that? At two, 1:26:41.160 --> 1:26:44.160 she's sitting there with a plate of food, taking her 1:26:44.240 --> 1:26:47.080 hand and putting it over it to feel whether or 1:26:47.120 --> 1:26:47.719 not it's hot. 1:26:47.840 --> 1:26:49.880 Like, I don't even know where she got that from. 1:26:49.960 --> 1:26:53.120 At two, Usually they'll just go for the food because 1:26:53.120 --> 1:26:56.000 they see it there and they assume it's you know, 1:26:56.120 --> 1:26:56.639 it's good. 1:26:56.920 --> 1:26:59.400 And then then once it's in their mouths. 1:27:00.000 --> 1:27:03.719 We already knows these parents I have is out their minds. 1:27:04.000 --> 1:27:06.920 Let me protect myself by feeling on top of it 1:27:07.120 --> 1:27:09.240 to make sure whether or not it's cool. 1:27:09.560 --> 1:27:11.320 This is a two year old. So by the. 1:27:11.240 --> 1:27:13.960 Time she is seven or eight, I have sat with 1:27:14.120 --> 1:27:17.599 I have friends, we have friends who have seven eight 1:27:17.800 --> 1:27:20.559 nine year old kids that are smarter than some of 1:27:20.600 --> 1:27:21.880 the adults. 1:27:21.360 --> 1:27:21.880 That we know. 1:27:22.080 --> 1:27:24.880 Okay, so let's just be clear. What I said was 1:27:25.080 --> 1:27:27.599 tell him the whole story. So you know what, your 1:27:27.680 --> 1:27:31.040 father and I we got together. We really did not 1:27:31.240 --> 1:27:33.559 have a relationship, We didn't really even. 1:27:33.360 --> 1:27:34.120 Know one another. 1:27:34.280 --> 1:27:36.439 But on a fun day or a fun night, we 1:27:36.479 --> 1:27:40.200 got together and we made you and your father made 1:27:40.200 --> 1:27:42.240 it clear that this is not what he wanted, and 1:27:42.320 --> 1:27:45.800 he left and that's it. That child might be hurt 1:27:46.080 --> 1:27:48.599 and it might be feel like rejection. But I had 1:27:49.200 --> 1:27:51.600 a good friend of our sadip Reental, said that she 1:27:51.760 --> 1:27:57.040 told another young person recently. Life is full of disappointing moments. 1:27:57.240 --> 1:27:59.880 There's things that hurt. There are things that will make 1:27:59.920 --> 1:28:03.000 you feel good, but there's more stuff sometimes that. 1:28:03.000 --> 1:28:05.080 Make you feel defeated. 1:28:05.280 --> 1:28:08.040 Right, and so you need to be able to deal 1:28:08.120 --> 1:28:12.120 with your true circumstances, whatever that is, at the point 1:28:12.160 --> 1:28:15.599 that you can understand and ask the questions that are 1:28:15.800 --> 1:28:18.479 necessary for you for you to just know who you are. 1:28:18.560 --> 1:28:20.720 But there are a lot of but I think when 1:28:20.760 --> 1:28:22.439 you look at a situations like that, there are a 1:28:22.479 --> 1:28:25.960 lot of quote unquote women who have daddy issues based 1:28:26.040 --> 1:28:28.040 on those situations because they've been abandoned. 1:28:28.160 --> 1:28:30.320 Right, Yeah, but it's more. 1:28:30.400 --> 1:28:32.799 But I promise you, and I don't know the stats 1:28:32.840 --> 1:28:35.080 on this, because you know, we can't speak to what 1:28:35.120 --> 1:28:37.640 we don't know. We've never done in numbers, but I 1:28:37.760 --> 1:28:40.519 bet you that there are more kids that have daddy 1:28:40.600 --> 1:28:45.120 issues from two things. One not understanding, not knowing, and 1:28:45.240 --> 1:28:48.320 not having somebody who's willing to help them work through it, 1:28:48.400 --> 1:28:51.839 so that's therapy, and also being able to speak freely 1:28:51.920 --> 1:28:52.799 about the issue. 1:28:53.080 --> 1:28:53.920 I bet you it's that. 1:28:54.200 --> 1:28:56.920 And then the other one that daddy issues develop from 1:28:57.040 --> 1:29:00.920 is having the type of mother or adult who wants 1:29:01.000 --> 1:29:04.439 to use it as a weapon that when they say 1:29:04.479 --> 1:29:06.519 it to you, they like, well, I don't know your 1:29:06.600 --> 1:29:07.479 daddy didn't want you. 1:29:07.680 --> 1:29:09.960 He just didn't want you. That's not what I'm talking about. 1:29:10.000 --> 1:29:14.000 I am not saying that anybody should use their words, 1:29:14.200 --> 1:29:17.840 use the tongue as a weapon against the father to 1:29:17.960 --> 1:29:20.120 a child. I think that is wrong. I don't ever 1:29:20.160 --> 1:29:23.519 think that it should happen, even with all that Jason 1:29:23.560 --> 1:29:28.120 and I went through, when my child to today and 1:29:28.200 --> 1:29:31.400 I are talking about him and I am telling him 1:29:31.439 --> 1:29:34.559 about stuff that happened that wasn't good, and it's things 1:29:34.600 --> 1:29:36.639 in this book, and I live to tell the story 1:29:36.680 --> 1:29:38.960 that's not good. The one thing I can say to 1:29:39.040 --> 1:29:41.519 you is that I will always lead with you know 1:29:41.600 --> 1:29:44.639 what your father was troubled because of things that happened 1:29:44.640 --> 1:29:46.519 to him in his life. You know the story of 1:29:46.560 --> 1:29:49.080 your grandmother and your grandfather and what they went through, 1:29:49.200 --> 1:29:51.200 blah blah blah blah blah, so that I can at 1:29:51.280 --> 1:29:55.639 least make sure that he understands this context for why 1:29:55.880 --> 1:29:58.599 Jason might have been violent or angry or whatever. 1:29:58.840 --> 1:30:00.960 So I'm not sitting here saying that. 1:30:00.840 --> 1:30:03.040 You should not try to make sure that your kids 1:30:03.200 --> 1:30:06.800 understand a full picture. And just because you know, some 1:30:06.880 --> 1:30:08.280 of these girls would just be like, I don't know 1:30:08.280 --> 1:30:11.000 your daddy won shit. So that's just it that I 1:30:11.000 --> 1:30:13.839 don't think is okay, and I think that does create 1:30:13.920 --> 1:30:18.360 issues with mental health challenges for our youth. But I 1:30:18.439 --> 1:30:22.160 cannot protect you, or the child or anybody else because 1:30:22.200 --> 1:30:26.000 guess what, I, as a woman or she as a woman, 1:30:26.479 --> 1:30:29.640 is a human person too. So the idea that I 1:30:29.680 --> 1:30:30.160 have to. 1:30:30.600 --> 1:30:35.320 Defend you raise you, I'm not talking about. 1:30:35.360 --> 1:30:37.720 I'm not saying you as a father, I'm saying the 1:30:37.920 --> 1:30:42.360 child I have to defend you, raise you, feed you, 1:30:42.360 --> 1:30:44.839 you know, support you do all of these things. 1:30:45.320 --> 1:30:46.960 I'm already doing all of that. 1:30:47.360 --> 1:30:51.639 Unfortunately, I don't believe, or maybe whatever, I don't believe 1:30:51.680 --> 1:30:56.040 that the mother should also have the responsibility when two 1:30:56.200 --> 1:31:01.120 people made a decision to lay down together understanding that 1:31:01.280 --> 1:31:05.720 pro creation is the whole point of sex in the 1:31:05.720 --> 1:31:06.360 first one. 1:31:06.280 --> 1:31:07.760 That's not what everybody understands. 1:31:09.040 --> 1:31:10.040 We need to teach that. 1:31:10.120 --> 1:31:12.639 Okay, But I'm just I'm just, but I'm not. I'm 1:31:12.680 --> 1:31:16.520 not dealing with hypothetical. I'm dealing with reality, because. 1:31:16.520 --> 1:31:17.920 That's the problem, my son. 1:31:18.320 --> 1:31:22.479 The problem is that the hypothetical is what men in 1:31:22.600 --> 1:31:27.320 many situations has made the reality. The reality is that 1:31:27.360 --> 1:31:28.960 sex produces children. 1:31:29.000 --> 1:31:30.639 But that's what I'm just saying. 1:31:30.680 --> 1:31:33.599 I'm not saying it doesn't. So what I'm saying is this, 1:31:34.320 --> 1:31:38.200 The reality is there are fuck boys, there are men 1:31:39.320 --> 1:31:43.080 who are have If they don't have a connection with you, 1:31:44.200 --> 1:31:46.080 they have no connection with a child. 1:31:46.920 --> 1:31:47.439 And if a. 1:31:47.439 --> 1:31:53.439 Woman understands that, conceives a child with a man who 1:31:53.479 --> 1:31:55.479 looks dead in her face and said I want nothing 1:31:55.520 --> 1:31:58.639 to do with you or this child, right, and then 1:31:58.800 --> 1:32:02.080 have the child and then try to still impose that 1:32:02.120 --> 1:32:04.120 on the man that said he wasn't going to do anything. 1:32:04.920 --> 1:32:07.479 I don't think it's not a smart decision. Well, I 1:32:07.560 --> 1:32:10.479 just don't think it's smart, and me personally, I don't 1:32:10.479 --> 1:32:11.280 think it makes sense. 1:32:11.360 --> 1:32:15.479 I would never put my child in the hands of 1:32:15.479 --> 1:32:18.360 a person who has said I don't want them. I 1:32:18.360 --> 1:32:21.120 would never because I'm not going to leave my child 1:32:21.600 --> 1:32:24.840 in a situation with somebody who does not love them 1:32:25.000 --> 1:32:27.600 or look at them as you know, their own and 1:32:27.720 --> 1:32:29.120 something that they want to be. 1:32:29.080 --> 1:32:29.680 A part of. 1:32:30.280 --> 1:32:33.680 But I still do not believe that one I should not, 1:32:33.760 --> 1:32:37.479 as you've already said that. One that it means that 1:32:37.600 --> 1:32:40.080 I should just walk around and not feel a way, 1:32:40.200 --> 1:32:41.000 because yes. 1:32:40.880 --> 1:32:43.080 I supposed to do. I absolutely do. 1:32:43.560 --> 1:32:47.240 And I am not protecting or and shielding you or 1:32:47.360 --> 1:32:49.759 are our child from the truth. 1:32:50.120 --> 1:32:51.400 The truth is the truth. 1:32:51.560 --> 1:32:53.920 And at the point that I believe my child is 1:32:54.200 --> 1:32:57.439 mentally capable, which means that they are smart enough and 1:32:57.479 --> 1:33:00.960 they his answers, I can't say that. I can't say 1:33:01.000 --> 1:33:04.240 that because guess what when these mean ask God, dang on, 1:33:04.479 --> 1:33:07.720 children start saying crazy things to you on you don't 1:33:07.760 --> 1:33:09.599 have no daddy at least this and that the third 1:33:09.920 --> 1:33:11.960 you know what. It might hurt you, but at least 1:33:11.960 --> 1:33:14.920 you won't be going why don't I at least in 1:33:14.960 --> 1:33:17.519 your mind, you could walk away saying you know what, 1:33:17.680 --> 1:33:20.800 I know exactly what happened, and I know that you 1:33:20.840 --> 1:33:23.639 know what. My dad, for whatever point or whatever reason, 1:33:23.840 --> 1:33:25.160 has chosen not to be here. 1:33:25.240 --> 1:33:26.559 Because the worst thing. 1:33:26.680 --> 1:33:28.960 Is to be looking at the door and thinking maybe 1:33:29.000 --> 1:33:32.160 he's gonna come, or looking at situations of thinking, well, 1:33:32.160 --> 1:33:34.000 maybe he'll show up. You know what you need to 1:33:34.080 --> 1:33:36.639 know early on, don't look for him because he ain't 1:33:36.680 --> 1:33:38.840 gonna be here. He does not want to be a 1:33:38.920 --> 1:33:41.840 part of helping to raise you and being a part 1:33:41.880 --> 1:33:43.720 of your life. You need to know that you don't 1:33:43.760 --> 1:33:46.040 need to be thinking about any when I turned nine. 1:33:47.320 --> 1:33:51.280 You've seen situations where women have reached out to fathers 1:33:51.280 --> 1:33:55.520 who've never been there, right and seeing it online, I'm 1:33:55.560 --> 1:33:59.120 saying no, but I'm saying, but those things happen, and 1:33:59.160 --> 1:34:01.240 I think they deal with a lot of trauma. 1:34:00.960 --> 1:34:02.320 When they still get rejected. 1:34:02.400 --> 1:34:04.639 But based so you done told me that's my father, 1:34:04.920 --> 1:34:06.760 I'm reaching out to him. He told me he never 1:34:06.760 --> 1:34:07.120 want none. 1:34:07.439 --> 1:34:08.280 But I don't know if I'm. 1:34:08.400 --> 1:34:11.080 Telling him at not As seven eight nine years old 1:34:11.520 --> 1:34:15.080 exactly who the person is. But there are some kids 1:34:15.120 --> 1:34:18.519 that will next by the time they're twelve, they'll be like, well, 1:34:18.520 --> 1:34:22.040 what is my father's name? At that point, it is 1:34:22.080 --> 1:34:24.800 that child. Listen, let me tell you something. My son 1:34:25.560 --> 1:34:28.120 life is full of freaking disappointment. 1:34:28.240 --> 1:34:31.160 I hear you, but I just my personal So what 1:34:31.200 --> 1:34:31.479 do you. 1:34:31.400 --> 1:34:33.960 Think that what would you tell your child? I don't 1:34:33.960 --> 1:34:35.400 know what I would tell you exactly, and. 1:34:35.320 --> 1:34:37.880 You know why, you know it because because there's nothing 1:34:37.960 --> 1:34:38.960 to say but the truth. 1:34:39.320 --> 1:34:40.880 But I don't know what to tell my child. 1:34:40.920 --> 1:34:44.120 But I know that I would not want a child 1:34:44.160 --> 1:34:48.120 that I have to feel unwanted just and that's why 1:34:48.520 --> 1:34:50.680 it don't matter what if my child was around and 1:34:50.720 --> 1:34:52.519 this was my child, I would have to take care 1:34:52.520 --> 1:34:55.320 of my child because it's no way that I would 1:34:55.360 --> 1:34:57.120 produce a child that I'm not going to take care 1:34:57.160 --> 1:34:57.679 of my child. 1:34:58.120 --> 1:35:01.080 That's just as a man. Sp No, but I hear 1:35:01.120 --> 1:35:02.559 what you're saying, But that's just as a man. 1:35:02.920 --> 1:35:06.400 But there are some there are some men or males 1:35:06.840 --> 1:35:10.320 who don't have that connection. They don't have that sense 1:35:10.400 --> 1:35:14.880 of responsibility. And I'm saying if I just don't understand 1:35:15.040 --> 1:35:18.880 if a woman knows that she's dealing with that level 1:35:18.920 --> 1:35:23.840 of an individual, and she conceives as child. Regardless, how 1:35:23.880 --> 1:35:26.679 do you expect him to change? How do you expect 1:35:26.680 --> 1:35:30.160 to now impose? Okay, he has to be, because that's 1:35:30.200 --> 1:35:31.040 not a reality. 1:35:31.720 --> 1:35:34.200 I am not going to argue with you about what 1:35:34.240 --> 1:35:39.719 you can or cannot do with THEE or whatever, because 1:35:39.880 --> 1:35:44.120 I'm not of the mindset that we're supposed to force 1:35:44.200 --> 1:35:45.920 people to do things that they don't want to do. 1:35:46.000 --> 1:35:48.519 And believe me, there was a time when I was 1:35:48.560 --> 1:35:52.000 probably thirty three, thirty two and below that I did 1:35:52.040 --> 1:35:54.439 believe that, well, I need to force you. But at 1:35:54.520 --> 1:35:57.400 forty four years old, about to be forty five and 1:35:57.560 --> 1:36:02.880 almost you know, and exactly thirty two days, I know 1:36:03.000 --> 1:36:08.639 that the time it spends to force another person to 1:36:08.680 --> 1:36:12.479 be in relationship with or whatever with you is a 1:36:12.560 --> 1:36:17.040 wasted amount of time. And even if you say or 1:36:17.080 --> 1:36:20.400 demand of somebody that they stay, or you believe that 1:36:20.520 --> 1:36:24.280 because you have kids, or you're married, or you're daddy 1:36:24.479 --> 1:36:27.679 or the friend, the best friend, or I did something 1:36:27.760 --> 1:36:28.439 for you and. 1:36:28.439 --> 1:36:29.400 You should be here. 1:36:29.920 --> 1:36:34.120 Even when people stay, they stay with something in them 1:36:34.400 --> 1:36:37.280 that doesn't really want to be there. So that to 1:36:37.320 --> 1:36:39.599 me is I don't ever want that. I don't want 1:36:39.640 --> 1:36:44.920 to force and beg anybody at all, kids or not 1:36:45.479 --> 1:36:48.799 to do or be in my life. So I'm saying 1:36:48.840 --> 1:36:51.240 that I hear you on that. It does not mean 1:36:51.280 --> 1:36:53.840 that I'm not still gonna be angry. It does not 1:36:53.960 --> 1:36:56.120 mean that I'm not gonna still maybe need to get 1:36:56.160 --> 1:36:57.720 some therapy for even a. 1:36:57.680 --> 1:36:59.439 Bad decision that we made. 1:37:00.040 --> 1:37:03.080 I didn't make a bad decision by myself, and nobody 1:37:03.080 --> 1:37:05.519 can sit here and tell me that the way to 1:37:05.800 --> 1:37:09.559 solve this, this this outcome of a bad decision that 1:37:09.640 --> 1:37:11.559 we made, is for me to be the one to 1:37:11.600 --> 1:37:14.320 put my life in danger to go lay on a 1:37:14.400 --> 1:37:17.400 table when I might not wake up. I didn't say that, 1:37:17.479 --> 1:37:20.640 you said that. I'm just saying you said. That's what 1:37:20.680 --> 1:37:25.040 I'm saying. Words are very important in that whole thing 1:37:25.200 --> 1:37:28.320 where you spoke on your I don't get it. You said, 1:37:28.600 --> 1:37:32.160 why would you ever have a baby with somebody that 1:37:32.200 --> 1:37:34.120 you know doesn't want to have anything to do with 1:37:34.160 --> 1:37:36.880 a child. The real question is why would you get 1:37:37.000 --> 1:37:40.240 pregnant by them? Because once the child is in you, 1:37:40.600 --> 1:37:43.439 having a baby is not always an option that. 1:37:43.360 --> 1:37:44.320 You can get out of. 1:37:44.600 --> 1:37:48.320 Once you're pregnant, which now means you having sex with 1:37:48.400 --> 1:37:51.120 a fuck boy because knowing that when we have sex, 1:37:51.200 --> 1:37:54.280 we can have a baby. That is where the problem 1:37:54.400 --> 1:37:57.400 starts from the beginning. It definitely, and I think that 1:37:57.560 --> 1:38:01.480 if we teach that as a reality versus a hypothetical 1:38:01.800 --> 1:38:02.880 that we're having. 1:38:04.080 --> 1:38:05.960 You, if you're having sex with somebody that you don't 1:38:05.960 --> 1:38:09.120 even understand their core values, right, If you just and 1:38:09.160 --> 1:38:10.880 you have an unprotected you you. 1:38:10.880 --> 1:38:13.120 Allowing sex in general, sex in general, and. 1:38:13.040 --> 1:38:15.240 You don't understand their core values and you don't realize 1:38:15.400 --> 1:38:18.519 that this person is a stand up individual that's going 1:38:18.560 --> 1:38:21.360 to take care of his business and has honor and integrity. 1:38:21.840 --> 1:38:23.479 If you are having sex with someone and you don't 1:38:23.520 --> 1:38:25.840 know those things, or if you have sex and you 1:38:25.920 --> 1:38:28.040 did and you said fuck all that, I just want 1:38:28.040 --> 1:38:30.759 to have sex with them, then that that in itself 1:38:30.800 --> 1:38:31.400 is a problem. 1:38:31.479 --> 1:38:33.759 Well it's I mean, no, no, it's a real problem. 1:38:33.920 --> 1:38:37.400 You are one hundred percent right. All I'm simply stating 1:38:38.240 --> 1:38:46.160 is that I'm simply stating that that's not a one 1:38:46.240 --> 1:38:49.760 person or the other. It's also knowing, right, and it's 1:38:49.800 --> 1:38:53.240 when you have mastery of self, which is something that 1:38:53.720 --> 1:38:56.519 we all had to learn and we get better and 1:38:56.560 --> 1:38:59.280 better at it as time goes on, but it's not 1:38:59.479 --> 1:39:02.559 easy for a twenty year old so on and so forth, 1:39:02.600 --> 1:39:05.759 when we have children that were like, damn, you know cool. 1:39:07.479 --> 1:39:11.479 Self mastery means that we have to now learn that 1:39:11.600 --> 1:39:13.960 I don't want to lay down everywhere because I know 1:39:14.120 --> 1:39:17.280 there are consequences that I could get up with. And 1:39:17.320 --> 1:39:19.639 it's not just babies, it's all kinds of things. It's 1:39:19.640 --> 1:39:25.799 also spirit intertwining. Right now. You now, if I slept 1:39:25.840 --> 1:39:28.880 with you last night and then you act crazy towards 1:39:28.880 --> 1:39:30.720 me the next day or never call me back, now, 1:39:30.760 --> 1:39:33.840 that's on my heart that I have given myself to 1:39:33.920 --> 1:39:37.519 somebody who rejected me in some way, right, Like, there's 1:39:37.560 --> 1:39:40.120 a lot of things that happen from the act of sex, 1:39:40.160 --> 1:39:44.599 and we are so so so addicted to the feeling 1:39:44.720 --> 1:39:48.160 of sex as people, as humans that we forget that 1:39:48.200 --> 1:39:51.080 we are leaving a trail of shit behind us with 1:39:51.160 --> 1:39:54.160 each person that we lay down with. And so I'm 1:39:54.200 --> 1:39:58.040 just saying that it's helpful for us to start teaching 1:39:58.120 --> 1:40:02.360 and not starting conversation at if you have a baby 1:40:02.560 --> 1:40:05.479 and then the person doesn't want to be involved, if 1:40:05.479 --> 1:40:09.080 you even have sex with a dude, excuse me, who 1:40:09.160 --> 1:40:11.720 is telling you he ain't even you might not even 1:40:11.720 --> 1:40:14.400 even asked him that. That's the that's the scary part 1:40:14.479 --> 1:40:17.760 to your point about knowing somebody's core values. You got 1:40:17.800 --> 1:40:21.160 to at least ask somebody, Hey, if something happens in 1:40:21.200 --> 1:40:24.040 this situation where we at, and if the dude says 1:40:24.080 --> 1:40:27.240 to you, I ain't trying to have no babies. I 1:40:27.280 --> 1:40:30.479 mean I literally watch a dude on Instagram say, if 1:40:30.520 --> 1:40:33.040 you one of them kind of people that's looking for 1:40:33.080 --> 1:40:34.920 a child and a family and a thing. 1:40:35.560 --> 1:40:38.720 I'm not your guy at all. I don't even want 1:40:38.760 --> 1:40:40.040 to have nothing, nigga. 1:40:40.040 --> 1:40:42.559 Is now when you go have sex with that guy 1:40:42.600 --> 1:40:45.280 and get pregnant, and then you said, yo, you got 1:40:45.280 --> 1:40:46.840 to step up and you need to be a father. 1:40:48.280 --> 1:40:49.280 That's an issue for you. 1:40:49.360 --> 1:40:50.280 Yeah, but it's all but you. 1:40:50.400 --> 1:40:52.920 But okay, so I agree with you, but I need 1:40:52.960 --> 1:40:54.960 it to be an issue with you for two. What 1:40:55.080 --> 1:40:58.160 I see and we and you and I argue about 1:40:58.160 --> 1:40:59.599 this all the time. So we're going to just leave 1:40:59.600 --> 1:41:01.679 this alone. And I'm not going to say another word. 1:41:01.680 --> 1:41:04.360 You got the last word show, I don't get a segment. 1:41:07.320 --> 1:41:10.680 What I notice is that men have a lot of 1:41:10.720 --> 1:41:13.240 smoke for women and what women should and should not 1:41:13.320 --> 1:41:16.600 do with our bodies, and how we should conduct ourselves 1:41:17.360 --> 1:41:21.599 when I would love to hear your perspective on why 1:41:21.680 --> 1:41:24.519 a man who knows that he does not want a 1:41:24.640 --> 1:41:28.799 child is even out here slinging and danging around, because 1:41:28.840 --> 1:41:32.880 that in itself is problematic. You now because you didn't 1:41:33.000 --> 1:41:37.559 want something you wanted the feeling. Listen Elliott our brother 1:41:37.640 --> 1:41:43.480 who is the most amazing therapist and mental health expert 1:41:43.560 --> 1:41:46.720 in the world, Elliott Connie. He says something that was 1:41:46.840 --> 1:41:50.519 so powerful about Shannon Sharp that it really it just 1:41:50.640 --> 1:41:53.519 arrested me, like I love that when people make me sick. 1:41:54.200 --> 1:41:58.200 He said that Shannon Sharp had nothing at fifty six 1:41:58.320 --> 1:42:00.559 years old in common with a night ten year old, 1:42:00.560 --> 1:42:01.439 which we've all said. 1:42:01.439 --> 1:42:05.559 He nothing was in common, nothing, nothing, but he. 1:42:05.600 --> 1:42:09.120 Was using her for sex, So you can't be mad 1:42:09.800 --> 1:42:13.560 when she now wants to use you for money and clout. 1:42:14.000 --> 1:42:15.519 Everybody's using each other. 1:42:16.160 --> 1:42:19.840 So what people need to do is and maybe he 1:42:19.880 --> 1:42:22.920 did the thing, so let me be careful about that 1:42:23.040 --> 1:42:25.439 because he might have did the thing that she said 1:42:25.479 --> 1:42:30.200 which makes her feel like she deserves whatever. Fine, I'm 1:42:30.240 --> 1:42:32.360 not sure, we don't know what we gonna find out, 1:42:32.600 --> 1:42:37.519 but nonetheless, still you put yourself in that situation by 1:42:37.640 --> 1:42:40.040 messing with this child in the first But I don't 1:42:40.080 --> 1:42:43.919 care what nobody says, teenager, it's a child at nineteen. 1:42:44.360 --> 1:42:46.160 Okay, So now. 1:42:46.040 --> 1:42:49.600 You I want you to listen to how your mindset 1:42:49.800 --> 1:42:53.720 goes to how a woman should protect herself, because I 1:42:53.760 --> 1:42:57.160 guess you're saying the baby is her baby, so she's 1:42:57.200 --> 1:42:59.680 the one when she verses, she gotta take care of it, 1:42:59.720 --> 1:43:02.680 so you should be more careful. I get that, but 1:43:02.920 --> 1:43:06.160 just imagine what comes back to us and the karma 1:43:06.240 --> 1:43:08.760 that we deal with as a man who has a 1:43:08.880 --> 1:43:11.240 child walking around in the world that does not have 1:43:11.320 --> 1:43:11.840 his father. 1:43:12.240 --> 1:43:14.240 I'm not sure who gets it worse. 1:43:14.240 --> 1:43:17.000 The mother who ends up taking care of the baby 1:43:17.040 --> 1:43:18.760 and doing the things that she needs to do to 1:43:18.880 --> 1:43:23.120 raise a decent at least human or the father who 1:43:23.240 --> 1:43:25.200 was honest that he didn't want it and he ends 1:43:25.280 --> 1:43:27.200 up with a child that he's not taking care of. 1:43:27.360 --> 1:43:28.960 I want to know who is going to have a 1:43:28.960 --> 1:43:31.120 better story when they get to the gates and have 1:43:31.160 --> 1:43:32.840 to have a conversation with their Lord. 1:43:32.920 --> 1:43:34.960 Well, I mean, if we talking about the lord, then 1:43:35.640 --> 1:43:38.240 we're not That's what I'm trying to say. It's not 1:43:38.320 --> 1:43:41.840 about right, wrong, good or bad. It's about the common sense. 1:43:42.800 --> 1:43:44.880 And that's all I've always broke it down to. Like 1:43:45.040 --> 1:43:47.120 I'm not saying, it's just like when I said, a 1:43:47.160 --> 1:43:50.240 girl walks down the block and she's naked and somebody 1:43:50.320 --> 1:43:53.960 rapes her, she's not responsible. Nobody should rape her. But 1:43:54.080 --> 1:43:56.439 we still got to understand that they all rapists out 1:43:56.479 --> 1:43:58.439 there that will rape you. And if you walk down 1:43:58.479 --> 1:44:02.160 to the empty, dark block, the probability of somebody raping 1:44:02.200 --> 1:44:05.560 you exists. So why put yourself in a position to 1:44:05.680 --> 1:44:08.760 where even and it's no justification nobody should rape you, 1:44:08.840 --> 1:44:11.120 is what I'm trying to say. So there's no justification 1:44:11.200 --> 1:44:13.240 a man should take care of his children. But if 1:44:13.280 --> 1:44:16.000 you are aware that you're dealing with a man. 1:44:15.840 --> 1:44:17.800 That ain't, and. 1:44:17.760 --> 1:44:20.240 You're still holding them to this criteria, it's like, I 1:44:20.280 --> 1:44:21.320 don't understand that. 1:44:21.880 --> 1:44:23.360 I just don't. I don't, and I don't think it 1:44:23.360 --> 1:44:24.360 benefits the child. 1:44:24.840 --> 1:44:27.559 I think that it's something that you that the mother 1:44:28.280 --> 1:44:32.120 has personally made a decision, that you made a decision 1:44:32.120 --> 1:44:36.639 that regardless of how it affects you or this child, 1:44:37.000 --> 1:44:39.000 that this is how you're going to go about it, 1:44:39.600 --> 1:44:41.720 and and when you're dealing with somebody on the other 1:44:41.760 --> 1:44:45.120 side that don't give a fuck at all, like how 1:44:45.160 --> 1:44:46.160 does it benefit you? 1:44:46.560 --> 1:44:48.960 I don't think it benefits anybody. But I just tell 1:44:48.960 --> 1:44:50.559 you one thing I. 1:44:50.479 --> 1:44:53.240 Am learning, and also I was saying, is this, if 1:44:53.240 --> 1:44:55.680 a woman you don't many men have made babies that 1:44:55.680 --> 1:44:58.400 they don't know nothing about, or a woman decided and 1:44:58.439 --> 1:45:01.200 they wanted a child, and women wouldn't decided I'm not 1:45:01.200 --> 1:45:03.880 having no baby. Never said nothing to them or probably 1:45:03.880 --> 1:45:05.760 told them I'm not having a baby. Men deal with 1:45:05.760 --> 1:45:08.160 the same shit all the time. We've had to. We've 1:45:08.160 --> 1:45:11.640 had to deal with situations where women terminated prayer. I 1:45:11.680 --> 1:45:13.360 know a nigga that begged the woman to have his 1:45:13.439 --> 1:45:17.760 baby should know beg. The beg went to went to 1:45:17.800 --> 1:45:20.200 the thing with a please please, and she can't. So 1:45:20.439 --> 1:45:21.920 these things happen all the time. 1:45:22.000 --> 1:45:23.920 You know that I talk a lot, So I said 1:45:24.000 --> 1:45:26.439 that I wasn't gonna say anything else, but I'll tell 1:45:26.479 --> 1:45:29.280 you what I do need to say. It really just 1:45:30.720 --> 1:45:36.000 amplifies the idea that God made us to need one 1:45:36.000 --> 1:45:39.280 another like we have to have. It's no way for 1:45:39.439 --> 1:45:42.720 us to do what you're talking about without both of 1:45:42.800 --> 1:45:45.559 us being involved in this decision. So it's a lot 1:45:45.560 --> 1:45:47.439 of us as women who say we don't need men. 1:45:47.479 --> 1:45:49.160 It's a lot of men walking around here like, oh, 1:45:49.200 --> 1:45:50.920 these chicks, I don't care. I saw of the man 1:45:51.160 --> 1:45:55.679 and they said they're making better dolls for sex. Then 1:45:55.960 --> 1:45:58.639 the feeling that he has from the women that he's 1:45:58.680 --> 1:46:00.760 been with, I think that's. 1:46:00.240 --> 1:46:03.360 Crazy as hell. But nonetheless that's what he said. 1:46:03.680 --> 1:46:08.559 But Rose walking around with the roads, I don't. 1:46:08.720 --> 1:46:10.880 First of all, I don't have a role, I said 1:46:11.360 --> 1:46:17.479 walking around, But I don't know you walking around. 1:46:17.200 --> 1:46:17.479 Mind. 1:46:17.560 --> 1:46:21.120 If you ask me questions, I'll. 1:46:24.000 --> 1:46:28.000 Bracking out. I'm telling you, but I ain't worked the roads. 1:46:28.240 --> 1:46:31.120 So but anyway, I'm just saying I would never sit 1:46:31.200 --> 1:46:33.640 here and say that any sex toy that I have 1:46:33.760 --> 1:46:36.880 ever had in my life was better than Okay, I 1:46:36.920 --> 1:46:39.360 guess it is. I'm saying I don't okay, So all 1:46:39.439 --> 1:46:42.719 I'm I'm just I'm just saying to you that from 1:46:42.960 --> 1:46:45.080 God's perspective, you don'e got me. 1:46:45.320 --> 1:46:48.120 This show has put me in my spiritual bag. Okay. 1:46:48.880 --> 1:46:53.960 Started with Harrio. From God's perspective, there is no way, 1:46:54.840 --> 1:46:58.040 no way at all for us to fulfill what it 1:46:58.120 --> 1:47:00.400 is that we are supposed to be doing, which is 1:47:00.439 --> 1:47:04.040 to bring forth life and bring forth fruitful life without 1:47:04.080 --> 1:47:06.280 one another. So we ought to try to find a 1:47:06.320 --> 1:47:09.720 way to get past some of this he and she 1:47:09.920 --> 1:47:11.720 and what you did and what I did, and what 1:47:11.800 --> 1:47:14.080 this and that, and just know that we better figure 1:47:14.120 --> 1:47:17.400 it out and we should stop taking advantage of or 1:47:17.880 --> 1:47:20.120 not being conscious of what it is that we're doing 1:47:20.160 --> 1:47:21.000 with our bodies. 1:47:21.120 --> 1:47:23.800 So that's it, and I mean our with us too, 1:47:23.920 --> 1:47:24.559 And believe me. 1:47:24.560 --> 1:47:27.000 I will continue to tell women, I don't even know 1:47:27.120 --> 1:47:29.840 why you slept with Bruh, because you know, Brauh ain't nothing. 1:47:29.880 --> 1:47:31.880 I told you that when I met him. You know 1:47:31.880 --> 1:47:34.200 what I'm saying. But y'all need to be telling men, 1:47:34.240 --> 1:47:37.040 Bruh stop laying down with these women. And you know 1:47:37.080 --> 1:47:38.759 you don't want to take care of your kids because 1:47:39.120 --> 1:47:41.200 you could do a lot of things in life. 1:47:41.479 --> 1:47:45.000 You could sell some dough, You might be able to 1:47:45.040 --> 1:47:48.639 even hurt somebody, right, And I don't agree with any 1:47:48.680 --> 1:47:50.240 of that. I'm just saying you could do a lot 1:47:50.280 --> 1:47:53.519 of things, but not taking care of your children. That 1:47:53.760 --> 1:47:56.680 is something that you will never ever be able to 1:47:56.720 --> 1:47:57.160 live down. 1:47:57.439 --> 1:48:01.160 What I'm saying, and I believe you agree. But there's 1:48:01.200 --> 1:48:02.479 some men who don't give up. 1:48:02.640 --> 1:48:04.880 Well, they will when they look up and figure out 1:48:04.880 --> 1:48:07.439 that the rest of their whole life trouble with. 1:48:08.520 --> 1:48:10.960 It's men who haven't took kid a child, and their 1:48:10.960 --> 1:48:11.839 life is perfect. 1:48:12.200 --> 1:48:15.520 Thinks you just don't know based. 1:48:15.240 --> 1:48:17.920 On the success and everything they live success what. 1:48:17.840 --> 1:48:21.639 You told me earlier. Success don't equal everything does sometimes, 1:48:21.640 --> 1:48:25.120 But I'm trying to successful sick. You could be successful 1:48:25.200 --> 1:48:27.320 mentally ill, you could be successful lonely. 1:48:27.360 --> 1:48:28.920 You could be successful stupid. 1:48:29.240 --> 1:48:34.759 It's people's true in their mind, in their mind. But 1:48:34.760 --> 1:48:37.080 but the some of the bad people think they're winning 1:48:38.000 --> 1:48:39.639 and they don't because guess. 1:48:39.479 --> 1:48:40.439 What, It's true. 1:48:40.640 --> 1:48:43.000 There are bad people who win, don't We see that 1:48:43.040 --> 1:48:46.640 People die go to their grave with stuff that you 1:48:46.680 --> 1:48:49.400 know they did, or people they harmed or whatever, and 1:48:49.439 --> 1:48:52.880 they never really it never really appears that they paid 1:48:52.960 --> 1:48:56.519 for it. But at the end of the day, what 1:48:56.640 --> 1:48:59.160 we know is that sometimes you could just take shit 1:48:59.200 --> 1:49:01.320 a little bit too far, Like you need to be 1:49:01.479 --> 1:49:04.160 humble enough to know I made a mistake, I've done 1:49:04.200 --> 1:49:06.240 wrong and I might not be able to fix that, 1:49:06.640 --> 1:49:09.400 but I can live everywhere in my life crazy and 1:49:09.439 --> 1:49:10.599 not taking care of your kids. 1:49:10.640 --> 1:49:12.439 That's a rough one. I don't believe in that. 1:49:12.920 --> 1:49:18.280 But anyway, thank you, good conversation, y'all. Give us your 1:49:18.360 --> 1:49:19.080 feedback on this. 1:49:19.160 --> 1:49:21.639 I know this is gonna be one of those controversial topics, 1:49:21.720 --> 1:49:23.080 and that's why I wanted to talk about it because 1:49:23.680 --> 1:49:25.439 I've been seeing it going on. You know, they had 1:49:25.479 --> 1:49:28.479 this situation with Anthony Edwards and his baby mother and 1:49:28.520 --> 1:49:30.280 there's been a lot of back and forth above that. 1:49:30.439 --> 1:49:33.479 So I just was giving a perspective with the mother 1:49:33.560 --> 1:49:36.800 of his child. But that was that, and that brings 1:49:36.840 --> 1:49:39.559 us to the end of another episode of TMI. Make 1:49:39.600 --> 1:49:43.840 sure you follow us on Instagram TMI undersc Underscore Show. 1:49:44.320 --> 1:49:48.080 Make sure you follow us on YouTube with TMI Show PC. 1:49:48.800 --> 1:49:51.519 We need all the subscribers, all the followers. Tell us 1:49:51.520 --> 1:49:53.080 you love us, tell us you hate us. Give us 1:49:53.240 --> 1:49:56.000 ideas for shows, who you want us to interview. Tell 1:49:56.080 --> 1:49:58.960 us your favorite interview. Give us all the feedback we 1:49:59.040 --> 1:50:01.040 love y'all. 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