Speaker 1: Hey bride, So I'm besties, Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 2: Today on the bright side, we're learning how to brighten
Speaker 2: our lives with.
Speaker 1: A little pop of color.
Speaker 2: Oooh, the Queen of Color herself is here, Courtney Quinn.
Speaker 2: She has over a million followers that know her as
Speaker 2: color Me Courtney, And honestly, Simone, I'm a little scared
Speaker 2: for this conversation because you know, I'm a neutral tone girl.
Speaker 1: I wear a lot of black.
Speaker 3: This is good for you, Danielle. It's really healthy. It's Friday,
Speaker 3: April twelfth.
Speaker 2: I'm Simone Boye, I'm Danielle Robe and this is the
Speaker 2: bright side from Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 1: All right, Simon, what's on for the weekend?
Speaker 3: Weather's really good in La. Right now, I'm thinking about
Speaker 3: firing up the pool for the first time this season.
Speaker 3: Get the kids in the pool.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm really jealous when you talk about that,
Speaker 2: because you know, I grew up in harsh winters the Midwest.
Speaker 1: The cold in Chicago.
Speaker 2: Is so real, and I used to like just look
Speaker 2: at people in magazines that lived by pools, and I
Speaker 2: just couldn't even imagine that, like your kids get to
Speaker 2: grow up by.
Speaker 3: A I know, I think growing up in Florida spoiled
Speaker 3: me because we had a pool growing up, and everyone
Speaker 3: I knew, all my friends had pools. Obviously, I know
Speaker 3: that that's like a very privileged thing, so I'm very
Speaker 3: grateful for it and aware of it. But it was
Speaker 3: it was important for us to have that for our
Speaker 3: kids if we could make it happen, and thankfully we
Speaker 3: found a beautiful spot that has one, so it's really fun.
Speaker 1: There's nothing like a pool party when you're eleven.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: They don't hit the same when you're like twenty one
Speaker 2: and in Vegas and in those gross foam pools.
Speaker 1: That was never for me. The eleven year old pool party.
Speaker 1: That was a jam.
Speaker 3: That was the best. Putting the water balloons in your
Speaker 3: bathing suit top, did you do that? Or was that
Speaker 3: just me?
Speaker 1: I had huge boobs so that couldn't fit any water.
Speaker 3: You didn't have to. What about the George Washington hair flip?
Speaker 3: Did you ever do that? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, georget To Washington.
Speaker 3: Yes, of course, Georgina, that's so funny.
Speaker 2: I'm always so fascinated by how these things all over
Speaker 2: the country.
Speaker 3: Yes happened.
Speaker 2: Even though we didn't have Instagram, we didn't have social media. Yeah, like,
Speaker 2: how did we all know about the George Washington hair flip?
Speaker 3: We all did it. It somehow traveled through the ether.
Speaker 3: I remember eating like Domino's pizza out of boxes and
Speaker 3: like being just like dripping wet, but like shoveling pizza
Speaker 3: into my mouth.
Speaker 1: It was just so fun, so fun. I love that
Speaker 1: your kids are gonna have that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna have to come up one day and
Speaker 3: hop in the pool over the summer.
Speaker 1: You don't have to ask me twice. I'm a pool girl.
Speaker 1: I love being in the water.
Speaker 3: I do too. What are you up to this weekend?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm nervous. I'm cleaning out my closet.
Speaker 2: I do a once a year cleaning, a big cleaning,
Speaker 2: and I invited a friend over to help me. Because
Speaker 2: I'm not one of those people that can just pick
Speaker 2: up a shirt and say does this bring me joy
Speaker 2: and put it into a yes or no pile. I
Speaker 2: need someone to laugh at me, embarrass me, and shame
Speaker 2: me into throwing something out.
Speaker 3: That's a really good friend who will sit through this
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a camp friend. Camp friends will do
Speaker 2: everything with you.
Speaker 3: It's true. It's true because this is like a six
Speaker 3: to eight hour commitment.
Speaker 2: At least it's gonna be thirteen hours for me because
Speaker 2: I have twelve black tank tops and twelve white ones.
Speaker 2: Like I have all of the same things, I just
Speaker 2: have a ton of them, So it's deciding which cut
Speaker 2: looks the best, which one is not yellowed.
Speaker 3: Today's episode is perfect for you and anyone else out
Speaker 3: there because Courtney Quinn is the raining expert on color
Speaker 3: and so she's gonna help you just brighten up your wardrobe.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want that.
Speaker 2: I like my neutral toned wardrobe. I worked very hard
Speaker 2: on curating it.
Speaker 1: Actually.
Speaker 3: Okay, well listen, no one's forcing you to change, Danielle.
Speaker 3: It's up to you. The choice is yours.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to live through my closet clean out.
Speaker 1: I don't need to talk about it anymore.
Speaker 2: Okay, before we get to the weekend, here's what's popping
Speaker 2: on our feeds today.
Speaker 1: This is your morning drip.
Speaker 3: Okay, y'all. Another core memory from childhood is heading to
Speaker 3: the big screen. Margot Robbie is making a Monopoly movie. Whoo,
Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun. She's so good at making films.
Speaker 3: I mean, after Barbie crushed the box office last year.
Speaker 3: This makes a lot of sense. She's gonna be turning
Speaker 3: the classic board game into a lot action movie.
Speaker 2: I am really excited that they're bringing this movie to
Speaker 2: life because there's so many characters in it. There's actually
Speaker 2: a lot of lessons to be learned, like financial investing
Speaker 2: lessons to be learned through Monopoly. Also, Margo Robbie is
Speaker 2: a producer. Excites me, oh because for sure people totally
Speaker 2: underestimate her. They see this beautiful blonde woman and they
Speaker 2: think Barbie, but they don't realize that she was a
Speaker 2: producer on that she's producing this.
Speaker 1: She really takes control of her career.
Speaker 3: Yes, I could not agree more. I will watch anything
Speaker 3: she does just because of her sheer ambition and like
Speaker 3: how daring she is as a creator.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 1: Speaking of daring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lenny Kravitz, Oh yes, oh, yes, we have to
Speaker 3: talk about this video of our father. Lenny Kravitz has
Speaker 3: been going around.
Speaker 2: Our father, our boyfriend, our husband, the Internet's husband.
Speaker 3: So if you haven't seen this video yet, Lenny posted
Speaker 3: this to his Instagram account. He is working out. He's
Speaker 3: on a bench, He's doing weighted crunches and the best
Speaker 3: part of this, besties, is that he's doing it in
Speaker 3: a purple mesh top, sunglasses and leather pants.
Speaker 1: Was this for the Gramm or was this real?
Speaker 3: I have no doubt that this is actually how he
Speaker 3: shows up to the gym every single day.
Speaker 2: I get it that he's a brand, but how could
Speaker 2: you wear leather pants to the gym? Do you remember
Speaker 2: that Friend's episode with Ross. He couldn't even go on
Speaker 2: a date in leather pants.
Speaker 1: They are warm.
Speaker 3: No, it's unhinged, It's completely unhinged. But this just shows
Speaker 3: that he is like one of our last living rock
Speaker 3: stars and he can't shake that rockstar persona even at
Speaker 3: the gym.
Speaker 2: I kind of think it was for the gram like
Speaker 2: he knows what he's doing. I see people wear denim
Speaker 2: to the gym sometimes, and I feel like that's unhinged.
Speaker 3: I just I'm getting I'm so uncomfortable at the mention
Speaker 3: of like denim and sweat. There's no wicking, there's no breatheability.
Speaker 2: How about the mobility of it all? It doesn't quite
Speaker 2: make sense. But the videos amazing.
Speaker 3: Have I told you my lenon gravit story?
Speaker 2: No, Okay, I'm so jealous that you even have a
Speaker 2: Lenny Kravitz story.
Speaker 3: It's not that good, but it exists. It exists. Okay,
Speaker 3: So I was twenty one years old. I was studying
Speaker 3: abroad in France, and I'm frolicking around Leone and I
Speaker 3: stumble into this store of oddities. It had like antiques
Speaker 3: and like weird artifacts in glass jars. It definitely had
Speaker 3: juman G vibes. And to this day I swear that
Speaker 3: the store owner was an actual wizard because we walk in,
Speaker 3: my friend and I and he's like, let me spray
Speaker 3: this perfume on you, and he's like, it has magical qualities.
Speaker 3: So he sprays this perfume on us. Okay, this man
Speaker 3: looks like a wizard too. He had the mustache, the
Speaker 3: little wizards tickler, everything, long hair.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, wizard's tickler.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing underneath the bottom lip. It's like
Speaker 3: a little triangle. I digress. He coats us in this
Speaker 3: magical perfume. Right, and then a few hours later, we're
Speaker 3: bar hopping and we meet this group of musicians. Turns
Speaker 3: out they're turning the country with Lenny Kravits, and they
Speaker 3: wind up giving us backstage passes to go to his show,
Speaker 3: and so we go to the show and I got
Speaker 3: to meet Lenny Kravitz. I like was a total groupie
Speaker 3: at twenty one years old, like rocking out backstage at
Speaker 3: this Lenny Kravitz show and he was wearing a bathrob backstage.
Speaker 1: That tracks.
Speaker 3: Was he nice sunglasses?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Super nice. Yeah.
Speaker 2: This is the most simone story because everybody sees you
Speaker 2: as this like really intellectual journalist, and then you get
Speaker 2: to know you and you are a wild child. So
Speaker 2: like this time you went to this random bar met Lenny.
Speaker 2: This all tracks for me.
Speaker 3: I know, my travel stories are a little dangerous. This
Speaker 3: one's pretty safe.
Speaker 2: Okay, today's a big fashion day, m hmm, because we
Speaker 2: have Courtney on. I'm cleaning out my closet, which when
Speaker 2: I clean out my closet, I tram my clothes and
Speaker 2: I'm like, who let me out of the house in this?
Speaker 2: And I can't believe I'm the one that let me
Speaker 2: out of the house in these things. But this caught
Speaker 2: my eye because in Style just released it's spring color palette,
Speaker 2: and surprise, surprise, there's a whole lot of color. So
Speaker 2: we've already established that I'm a black, white, and gray girl,
Speaker 2: which means that I'm very much out of style this
Speaker 2: season already, And according to their stylists, the colors of
Speaker 2: the season right now are Robin's egg blue, don't know
Speaker 2: what that is, lavender blue, pastel, pink, and blood orange.
Speaker 3: Okay, can we just set the record straight. I have
Speaker 3: to defend my girl periwinkle here, lavender blue is periwinkle.
Speaker 2: This is also giving very easter, Like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: This is the spring color palette.
Speaker 3: This is always color. Well, it's always the spring color palette.
Speaker 3: It's pastel.
Speaker 1: This is the peep's palette, like.
Speaker 3: Go long, it is the peep's palette. I mean, I
Speaker 3: love a pastel. I'm here for most of these. So
Speaker 3: Robin's egg blue to me is kind of it's a
Speaker 3: light blue, but it has a little bit more green
Speaker 3: in it. I love a lavender blue aka periwinkle. I
Speaker 3: love a pastel, pink. I love all shades of pink.
Speaker 3: Blood orange.
Speaker 1: I'm here for the blood orange. I like an orange.
Speaker 3: You're losing me blood orange.
Speaker 1: You're wearing orange in your headshot.
Speaker 3: That's not blood orange, girlfriend, That is like the difference.
Speaker 3: That's tangerine. That's clementine. That's why do you know so much?
Speaker 3: About colors, cause I'm alive. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So when I get my nails done, when I
Speaker 2: was younger, I used to do a French tip, and
Speaker 2: for the last i'd say ten years, I've done ballet
Speaker 2: slipper by SSI, and every single week I don't do
Speaker 2: gel I just do regular ballet slipper. And they always
Speaker 2: try to get me to do a color like They're like,
Speaker 2: just try a red or try this, and I'm like, Nope,
Speaker 2: don't have time to try things. Would you try any
Speaker 2: of these peeps palate color tones on your nails?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Actually, one of my next nail appointments is gonna be periwinkle,
Speaker 3: and then after that, I think I'm gonna do a
Speaker 3: cobalt blue and maybe a neon lime.
Speaker 2: I love how gen Z does press on nails. They're like,
Speaker 2: I don't have time to go sit at the nail salon.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna do these press ons and change the
Speaker 2: color all the time.
Speaker 3: I don't have time for any of it, to be honest,
Speaker 3: I was at a conference and I was doing the
Speaker 3: press ons and I'm literally running out the door with
Speaker 3: the nail glue in my hand, finishing them in the
Speaker 3: elevator and like regluing them on because they came off.
Speaker 2: So it's always scared they're gonna like pop off while
Speaker 2: I'm speaking, I were like holding a microphone.
Speaker 3: That happened to me. I had to hide my thumb
Speaker 3: as I was speaking. It was, Yeah, it's all hard.
Speaker 3: It's just hard being a girl. Sometimes it really is
Speaker 3: all right. After the break, we're diving into the world
Speaker 3: of color with Courtney Quinn.
Speaker 4: Stay with us, Okay.
Speaker 2: We are adding a pop of color, not just to
Speaker 2: our wardrobe, but to our lives. Whether it's the calming
Speaker 2: blue of the ocean or the fiery red of a sunset,
Speaker 2: colors have a profound impact on our emotions and perceptions.
Speaker 3: Known as color Me Courtney to over a million followers online,
Speaker 3: Courtney Quinn is famous for her out of the box
Speaker 3: sense of style and obsession with all things colorful. After
Speaker 3: years of working in the corporate world for brands like
Speaker 3: Tommy Hillfigure, Kate Spade, and Coate, Courtney left to pursue
Speaker 3: color Me Courtney full time as a content creator and entrepreneur.
Speaker 3: She's partnered with brands like Barbie, Netflix, and she just
Speaker 3: designed her very own clothing and accessory line with Disney,
Speaker 3: which sold out, and it was inspired by the first
Speaker 3: black animated Disney Princess Princess Tiana. Courtney, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the bright Side, Courtney.
Speaker 5: Hi, guys, thanks so much for having me, Danielle.
Speaker 3: We should also mention that Courtney is in the Hello
Speaker 3: Sunshine Collective with us, which, by the way, for anyone
Speaker 3: that doesn't know, the Hello Sunshine Collective is just a
Speaker 3: community of creatives, content creators and entrepreneurs curated by Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 3: And I've met so many incredible women through this opportunity.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. It's such a great network. Okay, color me, Courtney.
Speaker 1: You are all about color.
Speaker 2: You're almost inspiring me to try and live a more
Speaker 2: colorful life. And that's hard because I am a muted girl.
Speaker 5: That's always the goal.
Speaker 2: But in a world, especially in the millennial world of
Speaker 2: beige's and muted tones, why are bright, bold colors so
Speaker 2: important to you?
Speaker 6: I think color is so tied to confidence, and so
Speaker 6: it's so important to me to be able to infuse
Speaker 6: it into your world because it can really change and
Speaker 6: affect your mood. I've had instances where I'm having a
Speaker 6: bad day and I like, look down and I'm wearing
Speaker 6: like a gray sweatshirt and I'll go change into like
Speaker 6: something pink or bright, And sure that won't solve your problems,
Speaker 6: but it's one of the few things that you can control.
Speaker 6: I've also had circumstances, especially because I mostly live in
Speaker 6: New York City where it's very like gray and drab
Speaker 6: outside and everyone's wearing black coats and umbrella.
Speaker 5: So I'll walk out and wear a yellow.
Speaker 6: Raincoat or pink coat and people will light up strangers,
Speaker 6: it will bring like brightness to their day, and that
Speaker 6: I could make them smile for a moment just by
Speaker 6: what I was wearing is kind of like a superpower.
Speaker 3: You are such an impressive entrepreneur, content creator, and just
Speaker 3: creative in general, and your story is so inspiring to me.
Speaker 3: So I want everyone to hear your origin story. You
Speaker 3: always had an interest in fashion, But take me back
Speaker 3: to that time when you were living in New York
Speaker 3: City and you were looking for your big break.
Speaker 6: Sure, of course, like you said, I always was interested
Speaker 6: in fashion. I recently had this conversation with my fiance
Speaker 6: where he was like, what did you want to be
Speaker 6: when you grew up? And I said an astronaut of
Speaker 6: princess or I pictured myself wearing a yellow suit in
Speaker 6: like a boardroom, like with like marketing graphs, like either
Speaker 6: working in fashion of marketing, and he's like, that's really specific.
Speaker 5: You like pictured the.
Speaker 6: Outfit even before you knew what the job title was.
Speaker 6: So then I moved to New York with like hoax.
Speaker 5: Of working in fashion.
Speaker 6: I actually got my degrees not in New York, and
Speaker 6: I got my MBA at twenty one, so I was
Speaker 6: very young.
Speaker 5: I kind of thought I would be able.
Speaker 6: To break in the industry with all these great degrees
Speaker 6: and everyone would be so eager to hire me. And
Speaker 6: that wasn't necessarily the case of I got of learned
Speaker 6: that because I didn't go to fashion school because I
Speaker 6: didn't like swim in the right circles. Really, it was
Speaker 6: really hard to break into the fashion industry. So I
Speaker 6: kind of was working on my blog just as a
Speaker 6: creative outlet because I was working in a few different
Speaker 6: stock rooms or working in retail jobs at the time.
Speaker 6: And eventually I took my MBA off my resume and
Speaker 6: put my blog on my resume, and that's kind of
Speaker 6: what got me my first job in fashion.
Speaker 5: Then I got exactly.
Speaker 6: What I wanted my dream job on paper, and it
Speaker 6: turned out that the job was not necessarily what I
Speaker 6: thought it would be my particular skill set. I could
Speaker 6: do it, but I wasn't great at it, and I
Speaker 6: kind of had to force it. And then the company
Speaker 6: culture where I was in the team wasn't really what
Speaker 6: I thought I would be, and so then I was
Speaker 6: really depressed because I was like, I got exactly my
Speaker 6: dream and I'm not very good at it and I
Speaker 6: don't like it. And so I kind of had the
Speaker 6: sense of like, wow, you're kind of an entitled brat
Speaker 6: because you got what you wanted and it and it
Speaker 6: didn't turn out the way you thought it would. And
Speaker 6: so then I started doing more of the things that
Speaker 6: were outside of the box for me, and I was
Speaker 6: not really getting invited to a lot of blog events.
Speaker 6: So I hosted my own event, like in my apartment,
Speaker 6: and I invited all my favorite bloggers, and I reached
Speaker 6: out to brands and made goodie bags and like put
Speaker 6: this whole thing on and was like, I'm not getting
Speaker 6: invited to the party, so I'm going to throw my own.
Speaker 6: And it helped me not only rEFInd my confidence and
Speaker 6: then it eventually led to me getting to know other
Speaker 6: people at the company and moving to a different position
Speaker 6: that I really loved with the best boss ever that
Speaker 6: I still think about because she changed my life and
Speaker 6: it completely changed my Color Me Courtney career as well.
Speaker 3: That moment where you realize the dream job is not
Speaker 3: actually the dream job, I think is such an essential
Speaker 3: coming of age moment for everyone.
Speaker 6: To me at the time, it felt like such a failure,
Speaker 6: and I think so many people are afraid of the
Speaker 6: word failure. I kind of love when I fail because
Speaker 6: a lot of time that redirects me.
Speaker 5: The key is to fail fast.
Speaker 4: Yea.
Speaker 6: So once I could like sit in that reality that
Speaker 6: this is wrong, I need to change. I made the
Speaker 6: wrong choice, but that's okay because it led me to
Speaker 6: the right choice. It led me to working on color
Speaker 6: Meet Courtney more because I was not really super satisfied
Speaker 6: in my career.
Speaker 2: As somebody who fails slowly, I have turned the word
Speaker 2: fail into pivot.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so, Courtney, As you mentioned, Color Meet Courtney
Speaker 3: started as a personal blog, but now you have over
Speaker 3: a million followers online and you're making and selling your
Speaker 3: own products. I just know that there are entrepreneurs out
Speaker 3: there right now who are wondering how the sausage is made.
Speaker 3: So how many hours a week did it take to
Speaker 3: build color Mee Courtney into the vibrant lifestyle, fashion and
Speaker 3: culture brand that it is today? And then how many
Speaker 3: hours a week would you say you're putting into it
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 6: You know, every week is different now. When I first started,
Speaker 6: I called it my five to nine because I had
Speaker 6: my nine to five and I would come home usually
Speaker 6: closer to like seven pm, and work on it during
Speaker 6: the night and during weekends. And trickily, I probably feel
Speaker 6: like I work about the same amount. I was just
Speaker 6: maybe more efficient then because you didn't have time to
Speaker 6: like second guess what you were creating, because you had
Speaker 6: a few hours and then you had to go to
Speaker 6: sleep and then you had to go to work. I
Speaker 6: called it my hand I'm ontana lize, take off the
Speaker 6: wig and then be color uity or put on the wig,
Speaker 6: be color re course to take it off. It was
Speaker 6: really fun, and I missed that time too because there
Speaker 6: was a lot of other creatives in my community who
Speaker 6: are doing the same so we had this like kind
Speaker 6: of fun camaraderie.
Speaker 2: So I love how this work in your blog eventually
Speaker 2: gets you a job producing handbags at Coach and obviously
Speaker 2: you're working, like you said, you're five to nine and
Speaker 2: you're nine to five, which over time becomes exhausting, and
Speaker 2: you decide it is time to pivot. And Simone and
Speaker 2: I are constantly fascinated by that little moment and time
Speaker 2: in people's stories. Can you take us back to the
Speaker 2: day and the moment that you decided it's time to
Speaker 2: take my side hustle and make it my main hustle.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's weird because like when I started coloring Me Courtney,
Speaker 6: it was really just creative outlet and then eventually became
Speaker 6: means to an end to get me a job. But again,
Speaker 6: I never really thought it would be a full time job.
Speaker 6: I knew people did it full time, but truthfully thought, oh,
Speaker 6: they had other sources of income, like I had New York.
Speaker 5: City rent to pay.
Speaker 6: And it kind of happened in a few ways that
Speaker 6: I'm really thankful for.
Speaker 5: I was a little early to the game.
Speaker 6: I think right now, if you work for most companies
Speaker 6: and you have like a social media presence, it's really
Speaker 6: considered an asset. But at the time it was a
Speaker 6: little bit of like they didn't know if it was okay.
Speaker 6: They were just like, we don't know if it's okay
Speaker 6: if you're wearing our competitor in a blog post, but
Speaker 6: you're making our brand, we don't know, and let's talk
Speaker 6: about it and kind of figure out if it's okay.
Speaker 6: And so then once I was like, you're right, there
Speaker 6: might be like this ethical implication that I didn't realize,
Speaker 6: then that's when I started to think of like should
Speaker 6: I leave or not. So I really wrestled with it
Speaker 6: for six months because I loved my job so much
Speaker 6: and I love the people I worked with, and in
Speaker 6: that six months was like, I'm gonna hustle harder on
Speaker 6: color M Courtney and I'm gonna see if I cannot
Speaker 6: touch my coach salary.
Speaker 5: So I put that away.
Speaker 6: I didn't touch it for six months and tried to
Speaker 6: just live off Color ME Courtney to see if it
Speaker 6: was even possible. And then it also gave me kind
Speaker 6: of like a little like security nest day to where
Speaker 6: if then when I decided to leave, if it really
Speaker 6: all failed, I would still have something to back up on.
Speaker 6: Then the answer was what is there to lose? It
Speaker 6: is scary, but I would rather try it than not know,
Speaker 6: and so I just kind of decided to jump that way.
Speaker 3: I think that that is such great advice, you know,
Speaker 3: taking care of yourself, making sure that you have a
Speaker 3: backup plan, and then also really analyzing the revenue as
Speaker 3: it's coming in and being like, Okay, can I make
Speaker 3: a living off of this? Like I'm gonna give it
Speaker 3: a shot for six months and if I prove to
Speaker 3: myself that this is a viable path forward. I think
Speaker 3: that's really really smart.
Speaker 6: And I will say it's really cool to see. I
Speaker 6: recently reconnected with someone who worked at Coach Why was there?
Speaker 6: She's very high up now and she has like a
Speaker 6: very successful Instagram and things like that. So it was
Speaker 6: just too early, yeah, and I was really thankful. I
Speaker 6: think if they let me do both, I would still
Speaker 6: be there, and Colouring Courtney would not be what it was.
Speaker 6: So I'm so glad that it pushed me to make
Speaker 6: a choice about what I wanted and maybe realize.
Speaker 3: What could it be.
Speaker 2: I want to tap into that business part of your
Speaker 2: brain for a second, because every entrepreneur that I interview
Speaker 2: talks about the very high highs and the very low
Speaker 2: lows and Honestly, you can experience both in one day.
Speaker 2: You create content, you do brand deals, you have your
Speaker 2: own products, which people don't realize is just such a
Speaker 2: huge undertaking. Is there a lesson that you've learned that
Speaker 2: you'd really like to save other people from.
Speaker 6: Yeah, worrying means you suffer twice, is like my life mantra,
Speaker 6: not just for work, for everything else. And then in
Speaker 6: this business, like if it's something that you create, there's
Speaker 6: no rules to color me, Courtney. And so you get
Speaker 6: into this thing where, especially when it's just you, where
Speaker 6: you create your own really rigid set of rules, and
Speaker 6: it becomes sometimes suffocating. And sometimes when you go left
Speaker 6: and do the other thing, you find all new people,
Speaker 6: all new experiences. I even feel like that with like
Speaker 6: a to do list, I think people get overwhelmed by
Speaker 6: to do lists. Put brush your teeth on your to
Speaker 6: do list. You woke up, you brush your teeth, crossed,
Speaker 6: it off, done, Like what are you?
Speaker 3: You did it?
Speaker 5: There's no rules. You can make it up and kind
Speaker 5: of build yourself up because of that.
Speaker 3: That's funny, Courtney. All Right, when we come back from
Speaker 3: the break, we're getting into color theory and our own
Speaker 3: color stories. Courtney is going to read me all right,
Speaker 3: stick with us.
Speaker 2: So we have to talk about color theory today. I'm
Speaker 2: wearing coral, I did it on purpose, and Simone is
Speaker 2: in purple.
Speaker 1: Can you explain to us what color theory is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So just color theory in general is kind of
Speaker 6: like the idea that different colors have different effects, have
Speaker 6: different alterations on our mood. Maybe like as I say this,
Speaker 6: as I'm literally designing a red bedroom, but most people
Speaker 6: would say that you wouldn't design a red bedroom because
Speaker 6: it's like a very fiery color, and usually you want
Speaker 6: your bedroom to be like more of like a blue
Speaker 6: or green, like something more calming and centering. So just
Speaker 6: kind of the theory that color can affect our mood
Speaker 6: and like personality traits. And then also I think that
Speaker 6: sometimes a color we like to wear or our favorite
Speaker 6: color might say something about us or be something that
Speaker 6: we're trying to say to the world.
Speaker 3: So there are a couple of trends that have taken
Speaker 3: over the design world and the content world recently, like
Speaker 3: the clean girl aesthetic, which is very minimal, not very
Speaker 3: color forward, and also blanding. So blanding is this idea
Speaker 3: that companies are reaching for neutrals, for really modern, minimalistic
Speaker 3: silhouettes and design in order to brand companies. Because that's
Speaker 3: just kind of like the way that everything has shifted
Speaker 3: in terms of our aesthetics as a society. What do
Speaker 3: these trends say about us?
Speaker 6: First of all, I love that for them, but that
Speaker 6: is definitely not my journey. And this is not my
Speaker 6: first time seeing this. When I was kind of building
Speaker 6: color m Courtney, Like if you think back to like
Speaker 6: twenty twelve to twenty fifteen Instagram, like marble backdrops, everything
Speaker 6: was super minimalistic.
Speaker 5: It was like a coffee shot with like your journal and.
Speaker 6: Like that was it? Like that was the photo? Yes,
Speaker 6: a million likes, you know. So I've always gone the
Speaker 6: opposite direction. I think coming out of the pandemic, people
Speaker 6: were reaching for color a little bit more, but I.
Speaker 5: Think now we're just raining it back in.
Speaker 6: It's always going to be like this, Like there will
Speaker 6: be times when people lean into color and times when
Speaker 6: people are totally afraid of it. I think there's a
Speaker 6: way to do both. There's a way to do color
Speaker 6: and have it be clean. There's a way to do
Speaker 6: color and have it be maximalist and over the top,
Speaker 6: and there's a way to do bland and even have
Speaker 6: it be maximalist if you want it to.
Speaker 5: I maybe wouldn't call it bland, but like more neutral
Speaker 5: colors in that case.
Speaker 6: So I think it's just this desire to like streamline
Speaker 6: things make it cleaner because we just are so bombarded
Speaker 6: with ads and content and things constantly, and our attention
Speaker 6: splans are low. It probably feels really calming sometimes for
Speaker 6: people to just have like nothing going on.
Speaker 5: So maybe that's why.
Speaker 6: The blanding thing comes in, and as you're trying to
Speaker 6: appeal to more customers like it's definitely a safer approach.
Speaker 1: I love that term. I didn't know it existed.
Speaker 2: This is another term that I learned because of you, Courtney,
Speaker 2: which is color story. We all have a color story,
Speaker 2: and so I want to know about the bright Side's
Speaker 2: color story. We have a gradient that is yellow, orange, pink,
Speaker 2: and then purple, and we even have a little like
Speaker 2: orange red in our logo as well. What's the bright
Speaker 2: Side's color story.
Speaker 6: The way that I see your podcast is it's just
Speaker 6: like the right way to start off your day and
Speaker 6: you can listen to it at any time. But to me,
Speaker 6: it's just like such like a nice bright moment, a
Speaker 6: way to like put you on the right foot in
Speaker 6: the morning.
Speaker 5: And so I love that yours.
Speaker 6: Kind of looks like almost like a sunrise, or even
Speaker 6: like a sunset.
Speaker 5: A sunset kind.
Speaker 6: Of serves as like a reset, a reframe, kind of
Speaker 6: like getting back into like the right mood. And so
Speaker 6: I think that's kind of a perfect thing for you, guys.
Speaker 6: One of the colors that I find interesting that's in
Speaker 6: your logo that if I had to guess what your
Speaker 6: logo was before knowing it, I probably would have guessed
Speaker 6: it was yellow and orange or yellow and pink. I
Speaker 6: probably wouldn't have guessed purple, because purple is such a
Speaker 6: transformative color. There's so many different sides of it depending
Speaker 6: on the shade, Like lilac and violet are night and day,
Speaker 6: they mean totally different things. I've also found that purple
Speaker 6: people are some of the most passionate people. They love
Speaker 6: their color, and so I think those are things that
Speaker 6: kind of apply to the bright side too, like that
Speaker 6: kind of confidence and that boldness and that unapologeticness.
Speaker 5: So I love that we see that in your logo.
Speaker 3: I'm wearing purple right now, I'm gonna admit I'm not
Speaker 3: like a hardcore purple person, but I do love it
Speaker 3: and I appreciate her because she's just so unique.
Speaker 6: I think of you just knowing your personality, though I
Speaker 6: think of you read me. I think of you as
Speaker 6: like a warm tone, girly, so like someone who loves
Speaker 6: like maybe.
Speaker 5: Like pinks or something.
Speaker 6: I think because I spent so much time with you
Speaker 6: when we were both matching wearing yellow at when we met,
Speaker 6: and so I think that makes me a little bit biased.
Speaker 6: Sometimes your first impression of what someone's wearing sticks with them.
Speaker 5: But also I think.
Speaker 6: Your personality backed that up. That you have such like
Speaker 6: a warm and wonderful personality and we like instantly kind
Speaker 6: that I was like, oh, I'm just gonna think of
Speaker 6: her as like yellow, but probably if I read your
Speaker 6: specific personality, I would think of like more like pinks oranges,
Speaker 6: like warm.
Speaker 3: When you meet people, do you automatically put them into
Speaker 3: a category like, Okay, they're a blue, they're a pink,
Speaker 3: they're a.
Speaker 5: Babe, not too but yeah, a lot, they're.
Speaker 3: Okay, Danielle's wearing coral.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So though I could be kind of a beige,
Speaker 2: you're not a beige.
Speaker 6: No, I think you're probably I know you wear a
Speaker 6: lot of black because I just know you online, and
Speaker 6: I think a lot of times color people a lot
Speaker 6: of times maybe misdirect black as boring. I think it's
Speaker 6: stylish and bold, and I think it makes a statement.
Speaker 6: I also think of you as blue. But blue is
Speaker 6: interesting because sometimes people think it's blue as like really serene,
Speaker 6: like easy going, and I think of it more as
Speaker 6: like a commanding force, like a wave. So it's something
Speaker 6: that like kind of can come at you, not in
Speaker 6: an aggressive way, but in like a really powerful way.
Speaker 6: But for you, it's like you have this really interesting
Speaker 6: power to be a force but something that everyone would
Speaker 6: like be interested to see. And I think that's probably
Speaker 6: why you're a good journalist, because you can get stuff
Speaker 6: out of people and things like that.
Speaker 3: So true, that question so good at that.
Speaker 2: I need your advice, and so does everybody who lives
Speaker 2: in New York who also wears all black. But is
Speaker 2: there a hack for people like me that are a
Speaker 2: little scared to jump into bright colors right away, to
Speaker 2: throw on a bright pink dress?
Speaker 1: How can we start small?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think the easiest way to start small is lipstick,
Speaker 6: which that can be scary for some people, but I
Speaker 6: always tell people to just try it, Like try a
Speaker 6: colorful lip. It doesn't have to be super colorful, but
Speaker 6: then you can still wear all black and you can
Speaker 6: kind of have like a red lip.
Speaker 3: I really want to bring back the orange lipstick that
Speaker 3: I wore in high school middle school.
Speaker 1: I kind of like an orange red.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's time? Could we bring back the orange? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Especially on your skin tone, a red orange lip perfect you.
Speaker 6: So another tip is to just kind of try it,
Speaker 6: like maybe low Steaks, go to a coffee shop, go
Speaker 6: to somewhere where you don't know anyone, try the pink
Speaker 6: dress and just see if you feel different. And you
Speaker 6: might wear pink and be like, I don't like it,
Speaker 6: Pink's not for me. And then you might wear orange
Speaker 6: and be like, oh, I feel better today, I feel
Speaker 6: more confident. Just kind of try it and like the
Speaker 6: same environment over and over. If you can in something
Speaker 6: low Steaks and see how you feel and also how
Speaker 6: people respond. Well.
Speaker 3: I hope my mom listen to this episode because she,
Speaker 3: for the longest time, has worn a lot of black,
Speaker 3: but I think she secretly wants to branch out and
Speaker 3: be more colorful. But I think I think also as
Speaker 3: you age, as women age, it becomes a confidence thing.
Speaker 3: And like, am I allowed to wear something loud? Am
Speaker 3: I allowed to take up space?
Speaker 5: Yes? First of all, yes, you're allowed to be seen.
Speaker 5: You're allowed to take up space always.
Speaker 6: If let me ask you this, if you got your
Speaker 6: mom something which you maybe be more likely to wear
Speaker 6: it because it means something coming.
Speaker 3: Fro turn in the stuff I get her, I think
Speaker 3: some people.
Speaker 6: Are yes or no, because I tried another way to
Speaker 6: kind of introduce or dip your toe into color would
Speaker 6: be either you guys could like go get your nails
Speaker 6: done and she could do like kind of push her
Speaker 6: to do a more color color on her nails or
Speaker 6: even her toes. And then number two would be like
Speaker 6: buying a colorful accessory. So like mother stays coming up,
Speaker 6: Like if if you have a mom who really does
Speaker 6: love the gifts that you give her, maybe giving them
Speaker 6: like a red bag or a coral bag.
Speaker 3: Or something like that a great idea.
Speaker 6: Yeah, my mom exclusively wears black, but I bought her
Speaker 6: a red handbag.
Speaker 5: She wears a red handbag.
Speaker 3: It's a great idea, Courtney. It was so much fun
Speaker 3: having you here. I learned so much about color and
Speaker 3: the meaning behind it.
Speaker 5: Oh good, I'm glad.
Speaker 1: Thanks for brightening our lives.
Speaker 6: Courtney happy too is likewise, thank you guys for brightening
Speaker 6: our days every day.
Speaker 5: That's so nice.
Speaker 3: Courtney Quinn is a designer, content creator, and the founder
Speaker 3: of the media company color Me Courtney. You can follow
Speaker 3: her on Instagram and TikTok at color me Courtney. Courtney
Speaker 3: inspires me so much, Danielle, because you look at her story,
Speaker 3: what she's accomplished. She's truly a self made woman.
Speaker 2: She did it, I mean she told us how she
Speaker 2: did it too. My favorite line in our whole conversation was,
Speaker 2: if you're not invited to the party, throw your own.
Speaker 1: There's so much there.
Speaker 2: We got to throw our own party, exactly, find your
Speaker 2: own way in.
Speaker 3: If you don't have a seat at the table, just
Speaker 3: build your own table.
Speaker 2: So many puns, let's see how many we can talk about.
Speaker 2: I will tell you this though. There is a book
Speaker 2: called The Third Door by Alex Benaian, and the entire
Speaker 2: book is about if you can't get in the front door,
Speaker 2: and you can't get in the side door, find the
Speaker 2: third door. And it's the same thing as throwing your
Speaker 2: own party. There is such a power in that totally.
Speaker 3: Can I borrow that book? By the way, yes, thank you.
Speaker 3: On Monday, we are talking about the gender gap in
Speaker 3: athletics with author and journalist Christine You. Christine shares how
Speaker 3: his parents, teachers and friends we can help keep young
Speaker 3: girls in sports.
Speaker 2: The bright Side is a production of Hello Sunshine and
Speaker 2: iHeart Podcasts and is executive produced by Reese Witherspoon.
Speaker 3: Production by Arcana Audio. Courtney Gilbert is our associate producer.
Speaker 3: Our producers are Stephanie Brown and Jessica Wank. Our engineer
Speaker 3: is PJ. Shahamat, and our senior producer is itsy Qinthenia Our.
Speaker 2: Conna's executive producers are Francis Harlowe and Abby Ruzika. Arcana's
Speaker 2: head of production is Matt Schultz.
Speaker 3: Natalie Tulluck and Maureen Polo are the executive producers for
Speaker 3: Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 2: Julia Weaver is the supervising producer, and Ali Perry is
Speaker 2: the executive producer for iHeart Podcasts. This week's episodes were
Speaker 2: recorded by Graham Gibson.
Speaker 3: Our theme song is by Anna Stump and Hamilton lighthauser.
Speaker 2: Special thanks to Connell Byrne and Will Pearson.
Speaker 3: That's it for today's show. I'm Simone Boyce. You can
Speaker 3: find me at Simone Voice on Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 1: That's ro b A y See you Monday, fam, See
Speaker 1: you later.