Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, everybody is Steen, j n V. Charlamagne
Speaker 2: the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Jesscellaris is here.
Speaker 2: Of course, we got a special guest in the building.
Speaker 2: This new album, Sunday Dinner, is available now. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: Nick Grant, Nick, what.
Speaker 1: Y'all, thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Apologies, man, please forgive me for sleeping on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Nah. So good.
Speaker 3: I got I just got to it, man, I really
Speaker 3: just got to it. One of the best rap albums
Speaker 3: of the year. I got it. I got it right
Speaker 3: under Killer Mike by Just the Hair, by Just the Hair,
Speaker 3: by Killing Mike Michael.
Speaker 1: Nick's like, all right, man, I respect it. I respect it.
Speaker 1: You know. I feel like this is the best album
Speaker 1: of I think it's the best wrap album sure for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Why do you feel that way? It's other than other
Speaker 3: than because it's you.
Speaker 1: M just lyrically, I think I'm like above a lot
Speaker 1: of people. I just don't get that credit just because
Speaker 1: you know, I don't have certain backing, I don't have
Speaker 1: certain things that you know, or I might or I
Speaker 1: might just be a threat to a lot of different.
Speaker 1: You say that, Yeah, for sure, for sure. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's just what I feel. Explain, I'm not favorite
Speaker 1: Sunday Dinner's just basically me just growing up in my
Speaker 1: grandmother's crib. My mom and father had like addiction issues,
Speaker 1: and you know they in the periods of like breaking
Speaker 1: up and trying to figure it out, I would go
Speaker 1: back to my grandmother's house. You know, she was a
Speaker 1: little older raising me. But it was like, yo, all right,
Speaker 1: I got three rules, school, Church, Sunday dinner, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm just picking up all of these different personalities
Speaker 1: that I want to become and don't want to becoming.
Speaker 1: Essentially everybody becomes, you know, an experience on the album.
Speaker 2: Now when you talk about rapping, you talk about the
Speaker 2: way that you wrap. You don't really hear that nowadays, right,
Speaker 2: Does that bother you? Deter you from from you spitting?
Speaker 2: Because you know, growing up, I'm sure there were so
Speaker 2: many there was. You could go from Nas to Jade,
Speaker 2: you can go from Tai Lib the most Death, you
Speaker 2: can go to Kanye. It was so many people that
Speaker 2: were doing lyricism. You don't really hear that much.
Speaker 1: I used to be pissed off about it. But I
Speaker 1: feel like my purpose and my story is just a
Speaker 1: little differ, you know. I feel like I'm meant to
Speaker 1: be in this error just because maybe because it's lacking
Speaker 1: in this time, and that's my job to kind of
Speaker 1: carry on tradition in a way. I used to be
Speaker 1: upset about it, but it doesn't bout.
Speaker 3: That point in my opinion.
Speaker 4: You have soundtrack music like I'm talking about, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I like that because I listened to it and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: I hear Belly state Property.
Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, now he really really.
Speaker 4: Is spitting like ain't nobody else you know out here,
Speaker 4: like really really getting.
Speaker 1: Like I like that. The second hand music on the soundtrack.
Speaker 5: What second hand music? No?
Speaker 1: No, When they make the soundtrack, they be like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this ship for the album.
Speaker 4: See so said Now I was gonna be like, you
Speaker 4: know what, because we ain't got good movies like that
Speaker 4: no more? All right, so we need that took me
Speaker 4: back to like Belly. I ain't say Belly that was trash,
Speaker 4: but you know the first Belly all right? Then the
Speaker 4: state property, all right, you know what I mean? Minne
Speaker 4: society takes me back to good movies like that.
Speaker 1: Now I'm with your which, yeah.
Speaker 3: I disagree with what he said though only because when
Speaker 3: you look at the last decade or so with hip hop,
Speaker 3: the top rappers, the top three rappers are all literally
Speaker 3: yeah you know what I mean, and that's Cole, Kendrick
Speaker 3: and Drake. And then you still got your wallet's and
Speaker 3: your big Sean. You had your nipsies, you know, you
Speaker 3: had like all of those people rahapsy snaps, Like I
Speaker 3: think all of those people dope. I just think sometimes
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of time.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. With that, more have you have?
Speaker 5: You had your I made it moment yet.
Speaker 1: I think one of I had. I had a few moments.
Speaker 1: Now I'm like proud of I think like touring with
Speaker 1: like Nas and Lauren Hills, it was like a good
Speaker 1: one for me. Yeah, just the experience of it was like,
Speaker 1: it's dope.
Speaker 3: You said that on the album and I'm like, I
Speaker 3: missed When he was on tour with Lauren Hill.
Speaker 4: The line somebody missed that show when she was they had.
Speaker 2: To do more songs, perform the whole album Jesus again
Speaker 2: to come out.
Speaker 3: What was the boar you said you used to?
Speaker 1: I used to watch Sister acts my cousin passed away,
Speaker 1: like on the field trip, So I wrapped about it
Speaker 1: on the album. I remember everybody like just going to
Speaker 1: see him. I didn't want to see him like that.
Speaker 1: This was like my best friend. So I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch this movie. I'm gonna sit here and
Speaker 1: watch this movie. I'm ten years old in the crib
Speaker 1: watching this movie by myself. It kind of helped just
Speaker 1: get me through that moment, through that trauma. So yeah,
Speaker 1: when I remember telling her about it on the album,
Speaker 1: I mean on a tour, oh wow, and just kind
Speaker 1: of she just kind of helped me in that way.
Speaker 1: So I kind of felt like, you know, it was
Speaker 1: it was good. It was It was a perfect time.
Speaker 1: That was something I was running away from. A lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff you hear on the album is like
Speaker 1: a lot of just real life situations that I was
Speaker 1: running from and I just finally had to like look
Speaker 1: in the mirror and be like, Yo, it's time.
Speaker 3: So was it that moment on tour with Lauren remembering
Speaker 3: yourself watching Sister that made you finally deal with the passing?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Absolutely? This This is an album that I wanted
Speaker 1: to put out a mirror tell you this is like
Speaker 1: one of the albums I wanted to put out when
Speaker 1: I first came out, But I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: I was like much sure enough to tell it the
Speaker 1: way that I'm telling it now. When I first came in,
Speaker 1: I was, you know, like a wide eyed child. But
Speaker 1: now I'm just in a place where I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm matured enough. I'm thirty five now, so it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: and you still.
Speaker 5: Look younger, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Was it growth? Did you do some work on yourself?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Therapy for sure? For sure, Like you know, you're
Speaker 1: not you're not You're like, you're not in control of
Speaker 1: anything for real. You're under God's law. And you got
Speaker 1: to find a way to fit into that. And I
Speaker 1: had to. I had to, you know, figure that out.
Speaker 1: And I just found found the courage to tell the story.
Speaker 1: Like even when you listen to like the intro of
Speaker 1: the album, it's like my mom, you know, my mom
Speaker 1: is like yelling at a boyfriend, but you know, and
Speaker 1: it's and it's it's a way that I never wanted
Speaker 1: the world to see my mom. So it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: that's the first step. The thing that I fear the
Speaker 1: most got to open the album, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So and the universe worked in a way to where
Speaker 1: not the universe God worked in a way to where
Speaker 1: it just fit perfectly on the album and opened up
Speaker 1: the album.
Speaker 4: So do you have a favorite song on their or
Speaker 4: what song means the most? A?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like that. What song makes you most emotional?
Speaker 1: Most emotional? I think it's the intro ar about classic,
Speaker 1: worry about the Classic, like just talking about all of
Speaker 1: that stuff. And I remember going to like my neighborhood
Speaker 1: and I remember he wa Mir pulled up one day
Speaker 1: and he was like, Yo, ain't a windows on these buildings?
Speaker 1: And the whole time I lived there, I never really
Speaker 1: noticed that because it was like normal to me. So
Speaker 1: those things, those little things on the album was like
Speaker 1: things that I was scared to face once again. And
Speaker 1: I kind of like just put it together and kind
Speaker 1: of got it right.
Speaker 3: That's a great record. And you say in the hook,
Speaker 3: you say I'm trying to get my people right, but
Speaker 3: y'all worried about the Classic. Explain that because I got
Speaker 3: some thoughts.
Speaker 1: For me, it was like yo, I'm like I'm going
Speaker 1: through like different things. I'm like mature and I'm like
Speaker 1: finding myself. I'm going through like a whole bunch of stuff,
Speaker 1: just family wise, career wise as well. And while I'm
Speaker 1: going through these things, you get people like yo when
Speaker 1: the album coming. When the album drop, it like Nigga
Speaker 1: did You Boy the last album. So I'm going through
Speaker 1: stuff like through these different things, and that's what that's
Speaker 1: what inspired like the hook, And I'm just like seeing
Speaker 1: people like, you know, not to be dark, but I'm
Speaker 1: just seeing people die young and hearing about yo, people
Speaker 1: that I saw growing up, like leaving, leaving us. So
Speaker 1: that was one of the things that I just wanted
Speaker 1: to address. And it's like, Yo, I got like real
Speaker 1: life issues. And it's crazy because I feel like I
Speaker 1: made my best body of work, not trying to make
Speaker 1: my best body of work, you know.
Speaker 3: Because I would think getting your people right would be
Speaker 3: part of you making a classic record. Like if you
Speaker 3: make a classic and it takes off, that's more money
Speaker 3: for sure, you know. So you kind of do. Got
Speaker 3: to focus on.
Speaker 1: The album, absolutely, you do, you do. But I feel
Speaker 1: like the kind of person I am, the kind of
Speaker 1: artist I am. You got to live life as well. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you gotta live life and you know.
Speaker 5: Because that's what creates absolutely that class people.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't I would imagine I'm not an
Speaker 4: artist never then yeah.
Speaker 5: But I'm saying like in form of music, like I mean,
Speaker 5: I spit a little u bit of buzz too, But
Speaker 5: you know we're.
Speaker 4: Not gonna get there all right, wait ripping on any
Speaker 4: beasts Like.
Speaker 5: Right, No, what I'm saying, I think you you would.
Speaker 4: Have to go through live life and go through your
Speaker 4: just just your your trying times and challenges. That's what
Speaker 4: makes the classic. Nobody goes in the studio like yo,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna in.
Speaker 5: The class of today.
Speaker 1: You don't know too.
Speaker 5: It's you don't know until the people tell.
Speaker 1: You, removed by the spirit, made to be moved by
Speaker 1: something bigger than you, you know, and me a lot
Speaker 1: of times, it's all about just carrying the integrity in there.
Speaker 1: Like I read something like that Quincy Jones said, He's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: when you think about money while you're creating, God walks
Speaker 1: out of the rooms. You know, so you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta keep that first, you gotta keep you know, the story.
Speaker 1: The story is the most important. I feel like your
Speaker 1: story is a superpower, and definitely I never really felt
Speaker 1: like that until this album.
Speaker 3: And I always wonder why when it comes to music,
Speaker 3: they want artists to be everything but themselves, Like they'll
Speaker 3: bring you in the studios and you need to make
Speaker 3: this kind of record and that kind of record, but
Speaker 3: none of it is what you actually want to make, right,
Speaker 3: So sure, what's easier? Is it easier to make those
Speaker 3: bullshit records? Are it easier to do this?
Speaker 1: It's easier to do this for me? Okay, this is
Speaker 1: easier for me. I think the hardest part was facing it.
Speaker 1: But now that once I got into the groove of it,
Speaker 1: I won't say it was the easiest thing because the
Speaker 1: hardest thing was the internal work. But you know, once
Speaker 1: I got into like making the album, it became it's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this ain't that bad, you know what I'm saying naturally
Speaker 1: kind of just putting the words together. That's like my
Speaker 1: that's like my ship. So it's like perfect.
Speaker 3: I love the line. It's like the niggas player a
Speaker 3: game called Who Could Die the Fast? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: I know it inspired it, but what was it had
Speaker 3: to be like a moment that inspired that?
Speaker 1: Just hearing about this kid that I knew like like
Speaker 1: growing up, like man, he's just wilding, you know, just
Speaker 1: outside you know what I'm saying, just and just hearing
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 5: And living like they have nothing to live for.
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna get a you know, extra man and
Speaker 1: some shit like it's crazy. Like so yeah, I felt
Speaker 1: like I had to start start that hook off right.
Speaker 1: The hook is one of the most important things to me.
Speaker 1: Now that's something that I learned. So it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta say something that's like, you know,
Speaker 1: don't stick to them like soul food, Sunday dinner.
Speaker 3: Let's let's go to know your worth. You know. Another
Speaker 3: great record is that something you have to tell yourself constantly.
Speaker 1: Not constantly, but it was something like like I felt
Speaker 1: like I have to like celebrate, celebrate myself a little
Speaker 1: more because it's like work, work, work, figure out my problems,
Speaker 1: figure out the problems of the family, figure out all
Speaker 1: this other shit, and just having so much on my
Speaker 1: shoulders to it. It was like, you know, yes, like and
Speaker 1: then when I wrote it, I was like, yo, it's
Speaker 1: something about a black man just saying knowing you're worth
Speaker 1: and yeah, you know, celebrating yourself and patting yourself on
Speaker 1: the back the smallest thing, because you still celebrate the
Speaker 1: smallest thing in your journey.
Speaker 3: So because women say that often, you don't really hear
Speaker 3: men say that, like.
Speaker 1: For sure, for sure.
Speaker 4: But that's that's the problem. No, it ain't no little
Speaker 4: sassy know what. Ain't you gotta know your worth?
Speaker 5: Ain't nothing sassy about knowing your work just saying about it.
Speaker 5: It's just that women.
Speaker 4: We we like to say it a lot, and sometimes
Speaker 4: women say it and don't even know they worth. They
Speaker 4: just shouted because it's something to be said now. But
Speaker 4: not knowing you worth, that's for all human beings.
Speaker 3: Like you have to know for sure what is a
Speaker 3: man's worth though, because you know, most of the time
Speaker 3: men uh, people based all work on what we can provide.
Speaker 5: I hate when they ask questions like that, So what's
Speaker 5: really a man's worth?
Speaker 4: Like, yo, it's always right, But what really is a
Speaker 4: man's work?
Speaker 5: I don't know, you.
Speaker 1: For it's based on like like just the person you are,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, you know what you what you think, what
Speaker 1: you deem is like you know important? You know me,
Speaker 1: I'm all about family, I'm all about you know, just
Speaker 1: helping people My whole mentality is like lif as you
Speaker 1: climbing and like when you get to you do this
Speaker 1: ship very well. If you guys, thank you, but you've
Speaker 1: been supporting me, like since day one. It's like even
Speaker 1: just being from Carolina, that ship is hard to make
Speaker 1: it out of Carolina. So like when you get to
Speaker 1: a certain place, you help somebody up, and when you
Speaker 1: might get to a place where you need help and
Speaker 1: that person can the person that you help in just
Speaker 1: a cycle. So that's what it's about for me.
Speaker 3: Is it hard though? Because you know your family see
Speaker 3: you and you're rapping, and you know they see you
Speaker 3: on TV or whatever, and they think that you might
Speaker 3: have more than what you have.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely niggas a quate TV with money, niggas videos
Speaker 1: with money. It's like, you know, I ain't struggling. I'm good,
Speaker 1: but I'm like I could be in better positions to
Speaker 1: help you if you just kind of let me give
Speaker 1: me some grace to kind of grow a little more,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, do they believe that?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 3: Do they believe?
Speaker 5: You can get a couple more calls?
Speaker 1: You drop to there.
Speaker 5: And he was asking your word and how much.
Speaker 1: Was that interview with.
Speaker 3: You for real?
Speaker 1: Sure? Watching for sure?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to I want to jump to the
Speaker 3: record heaven. Mmm where did tweet? Where you get tweet from?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 1: DM tweet? You know, I'm like a huge fan of tweet,
Speaker 1: Like the whole I always say, like, Yo, when I
Speaker 1: was growing up, if I was signed to anybody, it'd
Speaker 1: have been Missy tweets. Yeah, just that, just that whole
Speaker 1: camp just so innovative, so creative, and man, I just
Speaker 1: loved her voice. Southern humber Bird, Southern hummer bird is
Speaker 1: like a classic to me, So I just DM it.
Speaker 1: She hit me back like, Yo, you're incredible. I would
Speaker 1: love to Oh wow, I came by the studio just
Speaker 1: black women. Wow, you know real black woman. Liken't even
Speaker 1: finish the song one of them for sure, So yeah, no,
Speaker 1: good energy, special person. I love tweets.
Speaker 3: Did you already have the record playing out? Did you
Speaker 3: know what you want to do?
Speaker 1: I had to beat and I wrote the hook, and
Speaker 1: she came in and sung the hook like I like
Speaker 1: demoed it. But I was like stuck, like stuck creating
Speaker 1: the records. But once you get the hook, my shit
Speaker 1: just came so naturally. I was like, man, you can't
Speaker 1: play with this one. You've been trying to get this
Speaker 1: feature forever.
Speaker 5: That's what's up.
Speaker 3: Okay, So what's the story. What's the story you're trying
Speaker 3: to tell on Heaven? You're trying to convic.
Speaker 1: The story on Heaven is basically it's still in theme,
Speaker 1: still in theme with the album, and still align with
Speaker 1: the album. But it's like I felt like even when
Speaker 1: I started with the first verse, like damn, nigga, you
Speaker 1: brave saying you never sold crack in the funny industry
Speaker 1: where everything is in act, you know, you know, my
Speaker 1: whole story was like, man, I would get the interviews
Speaker 1: in line and say, act like this perfect person, and
Speaker 1: I wasn't you know what I'm saying, because I was
Speaker 1: afraid motherfuckers to see who I really was, you know,
Speaker 1: judge me, you know, But I think that was just
Speaker 1: a young thing. Yeah, I got, I'm not perfect. I got.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of things that I'm working on.
Speaker 1: And you know, you're worth for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3: That's the strangest thing when you're in the industry there, right,
Speaker 3: because you're young, you really don't know yourself, right, but
Speaker 3: now you they want you to be something that you're not.
Speaker 3: You feel like you gotta be something that you show.
Speaker 3: So how do you when do you? When do you
Speaker 3: do you feel like you finally find yourself.
Speaker 1: Absolutely okay, not not not one hundred percent, but enough
Speaker 1: to where I found a foundation, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and out of like just just just the simple things. Man,
Speaker 1: smile when you see people pull your pants up. I
Speaker 1: was raised by my grandma. She was born in nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 1: So the wisdom that I got from her, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like those little things that I never
Speaker 1: paid attention to until I got a certain age, Those
Speaker 1: little things that take you a long way, take me
Speaker 1: further than you know all this other shit that you
Speaker 1: focused on would take you.
Speaker 3: So so is that why Grandma said is wouldn't know
Speaker 3: your work? Because absolutely go hand in hand Like your
Speaker 3: grandmother had.
Speaker 1: Absolutely a million a million percent, Like even with my
Speaker 1: cousin from the beginning, like Nigga get in the house.
Speaker 1: It's like certain things that trigger certain ones, trigger certain
Speaker 1: words and kind of helps the album flow. You're doing homework,
Speaker 1: yeah on this own?
Speaker 5: Yeah, not for really over there yo.
Speaker 3: Once you know he listened to every.
Speaker 5: Song, So tell me about heaven like lyrics, like so when.
Speaker 6: You said looking out on the box, look up lyrics
Speaker 6: and so did your grandmother help you write in number six?
Speaker 3: Like, yo, come on, are they putting pressure on you
Speaker 3: to put off for South Carolina?
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, it's a good question. I'm putting pressure on myself. Really.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of people that still don't know from
Speaker 1: South Carolina, even though I waved the flag so heavily,
Speaker 1: and you influenced me with that in a way, like
Speaker 1: even we're coming out, like yo, you got a whole
Speaker 1: state to yourself, Like yeah, you gotta do that. And
Speaker 1: these are like my experiences, like even when I went home,
Speaker 1: I shot a movie. It's always love. I shot a
Speaker 1: movie like a short comedy for the album. And just
Speaker 1: like the people and all the memories and all the
Speaker 1: different things, you got a few people that's like, man,
Speaker 1: keep you know, repping the city for South Carolina, Like
Speaker 1: you're the one that kind of that's kind of like
Speaker 1: a thing that keeps me going when I.
Speaker 3: Hear that you got to go to the International African
Speaker 3: American Museum. Man, you ain't been there yet, not yet,
Speaker 3: not yet.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go open over the summer for sure over
Speaker 1: the I'm gonna go for sure.
Speaker 3: Now, what what does success mean to you? Right? Because
Speaker 3: you put, you poured your heart into this album, So
Speaker 3: what do you want it to do? Because I don't know.
Speaker 3: If you have a goal in mind, and if you
Speaker 3: don't hit that goal, you know you're gonna start doing
Speaker 3: to work records.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like what you see, what a success?
Speaker 3: What a success means to you?
Speaker 5: What you what you?
Speaker 4: What does success mean you? That's like somebody said, what
Speaker 4: do you see yourself? As questions Like I want.
Speaker 5: Everybody to grab it and listen, nigga.
Speaker 4: This is what I want niggas to know you want
Speaker 4: and listen and just love it.
Speaker 1: What success means to me for this project? For this
Speaker 1: project is project man, I want to I want to
Speaker 1: kill that listens to hip hop the way I used
Speaker 1: to listen to hip hop growing up, Say yo, I
Speaker 1: kind of relate to him the same way I listened
Speaker 1: to jay Z, the same way I listened to Andre
Speaker 1: three thousand, the same way I listened to Nas, same
Speaker 1: way I listened to Big and still catch stuff from
Speaker 1: like twenty years ago. Like he said that, like I
Speaker 1: want a kid to have that that perspective of the album.
Speaker 1: And I also want him to be like, yo, he
Speaker 1: came from here. Somebody from South Carolina saying he came
Speaker 1: from here. He did it. This is tough. It's tough
Speaker 1: to get out of here. I'm from like a very
Speaker 1: remote city, Walterborough, for sure, not a lot of like opportunity.
Speaker 1: But I want, I want a kid to see me
Speaker 1: and say, yo, this album is dope. I love. I love.
Speaker 1: This guy is from me. When I look in the mirror,
Speaker 1: I see him, I see myself and him or whatever
Speaker 1: vice versa. And you know, just show him he can
Speaker 1: do it for real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with Dope Fens Theme for your.
Speaker 1: Parents, Dope Fience Steam. Yeah, yeah, it was, of course
Speaker 1: it was. I threw a little bit of like, you know,
Speaker 1: stuff about the music industry and stuff that I was
Speaker 1: going through in it. But yeah, it was, yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: Because you if you show you heard MIC's album and
Speaker 3: he got something for junkies. Yeah, and he did that,
Speaker 3: you know, because basically he was saying that, you know,
Speaker 3: there's no uh, I don't want to say celebratory way,
Speaker 3: but when people are addicted, it's actually an addiction, like
Speaker 3: it's something that's not something that should be looked down upon.
Speaker 1: But sure, absolutely it's it's you know, it's a disease,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So like for me, it
Speaker 1: was it changed my life. I didn't see I didn't
Speaker 1: see it that way at the time, Like I didn't
Speaker 1: see like my mom like I would be angry a
Speaker 1: lot of times because the back and forth. So it
Speaker 1: went on council blessings, Like, Yo, I went to thirteen
Speaker 1: schools by the age of fourteen. Yeah, just because it's
Speaker 1: just because my mom's addiction and around my dad trying
Speaker 1: to work it out and arguing and you know, trying
Speaker 1: to figure shit out. But yeah, but as I grew
Speaker 1: older and kind of found myself, I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know, these people are still human and they got
Speaker 1: their own issues, they got their own things that they're fighting,
Speaker 1: and I had a better understanding of it.
Speaker 3: So did that help you with because I'm you know
Speaker 3: that those stuff can be traumatic for sure, So when
Speaker 3: you realize that they're just humans trying to figure it out,
Speaker 3: that that helped you to.
Speaker 1: Help absolutely absolutely that that allowed me to give myself grace.
Speaker 1: I just had a son, by the way, so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just about to have I just had a son.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I found myself like just correcting a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff that my my parents did. I'm just correcting, like, Yo,
Speaker 1: they did this, I don't think that's good because you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's something that was traumatic for me. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like loud talking and cursing around your kids, just
Speaker 1: the simplest things, you know. I just looked at him,
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I don't want to I don't want
Speaker 1: to be that father of that parent.
Speaker 3: You don't want to be an eighties parent.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Just want to be a good parent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't want to be a two thousand parents going.
Speaker 4: But but you know, you can control that for sure.
Speaker 3: But how do you even learn how to how do
Speaker 3: we learn how to be good parents if we didn't
Speaker 3: see good parents and we all parents?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking just correcting, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm doing the best job. I think I
Speaker 1: might ask my kids at that at some point, but
Speaker 1: I think just starting with correcting my parents, you know,
Speaker 1: the things that they did with me.
Speaker 4: You see it like you see it in your parenting,
Speaker 4: you know, And then it can go either way either way. No,
Speaker 4: matter how your cause a doubt, Like I grew up
Speaker 4: in the house with my mom and my dad married,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And I turned out great.
Speaker 4: But then I had a friend who grew up with
Speaker 4: their parents in the house didn't turn out great.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: It's just whatever your hand is, you just gotta roll
Speaker 4: with the punches. It don't mean because you grew up
Speaker 4: in a single family home that you're going to be
Speaker 4: a certain way, and it don't. It don't mean, and
Speaker 4: vice versa, you know what I mean. So it's all
Speaker 4: about your household.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3: Who was you mad at? Don't catch this fade man?
Speaker 4: What number was that you only got to listen to
Speaker 4: three songs? Were number twenty? You know? So who was
Speaker 4: you trying to fight?
Speaker 3: I mean, just when you shot out eight for three
Speaker 3: on that though me deal for your s Who was
Speaker 3: you mad at? You thought about shooting at people? And
Speaker 3: no I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I was saying, like, put the girls down and fight, saying.
Speaker 5: Wall is having it. See, look y'all see.
Speaker 1: The pop listen. I'm gonna fund you, he said, pop
Speaker 1: pop pop?
Speaker 4: What he saying?
Speaker 3: He said, you try me?
Speaker 5: You on your pop? Yeah, pop, I'm gonna pop you
Speaker 5: in your mom.
Speaker 3: I didn't think that. I was thinking shooting. Then you
Speaker 3: came back and said, which one of you try to
Speaker 3: catch his feet?
Speaker 1: And even like on the second verse, I talked about
Speaker 1: like my first fight, got you got you just fighting
Speaker 1: somebody And I went in the house crying, and my
Speaker 1: dad was like, nigga, by the crying, you wanted to fight,
Speaker 1: came in the house already won.
Speaker 5: And what what verse was that?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: Who first was that? Yeah, listen to that.
Speaker 1: Last verse.
Speaker 5: He just was listening to.
Speaker 3: The first verse.
Speaker 5: So like so when you say about the pops, he.
Speaker 1: Was like.
Speaker 3: Listening on the song.
Speaker 1: That's that's.
Speaker 3: Why were you crying? That's interesting? Why was you crying?
Speaker 3: It was my first one. I was the first fight.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: You had one of those dads like if you come
Speaker 4: in the house and you crying, I'm gonna make you
Speaker 4: go fight him again type ship.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's how my dad was too.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Wow, I don't know why I started crying.
Speaker 1: My feelings was hurt.
Speaker 5: That's your first fight.
Speaker 4: It don't matter what boy, girl, whatever, your first fight
Speaker 4: and you feel like you lost.
Speaker 5: Hell, no, you're coming. I was crying And if you
Speaker 5: got dad like him, Oh you want. You was crying
Speaker 5: because you want? Oh no, I don't know what was
Speaker 5: up with you.
Speaker 4: He was crying because you meet him him.
Speaker 5: It was like enough you would have lost you wouldn't
Speaker 5: you get angry?
Speaker 3: No? Okay, okay, that was the childhood. Yeah, that was
Speaker 3: like in the lifetime, not once in a lifetime.
Speaker 1: You know when I was younger, I would I would
Speaker 1: cry time you fight, not every time. Okay, if they
Speaker 1: said the wrong ship or some ship where it was
Speaker 1: like I hurt my feelings, Sure, try to help build
Speaker 1: you up, nigga, that's what.
Speaker 3: It definitely made you cry and you used to cry.
Speaker 1: H they say the wrong ship. Because everybody knew each other,
Speaker 1: they'd be.
Speaker 3: Like, niggah, I know, like talking about your parents.
Speaker 1: Yeah like that, but everybody will it be that's everybody's story.
Speaker 1: Where I'm from, it's like welfare niggas everybody everybody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just get a dollar more, nigga.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Break Down two sides, Two sides was just like something fun.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to. I didn't.
Speaker 5: Come break it down here we're talking about it last.
Speaker 5: Breaking down.
Speaker 1: Two sides, Yeah, two sides is basically me just wanting
Speaker 1: to have fun and like just looking at the industry, man,
Speaker 1: I just I'll be frustrated because I feel like, yo,
Speaker 1: I feel like the certain Niggas ship is the lift
Speaker 1: that you climb. Mentality, man, just help certain niggas. And
Speaker 1: I be feeling like people say certain things to you
Speaker 1: in this business and none of them come true. I
Speaker 1: also feel like having integrity makes you a trouble maker,
Speaker 1: you know. So I just wanted to I just in anything,
Speaker 1: anything that I've ever done, like, you know, if I'm
Speaker 1: willing to stand on something that it always hurt me sometimes.
Speaker 5: I could definitely relate to that. You're definitely right when
Speaker 5: you Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Don't like maker the trouble maker.
Speaker 4: Yes, all right, I'll be standing on real stuff and
Speaker 4: they'd be like, what, No, that's messed up. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 4: it's just how I how what I believe and may
Speaker 4: get mad at that.
Speaker 5: They don't like confident people.
Speaker 1: For sure, Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Another common thing throughout the album is you keep repeating
Speaker 3: that you you're a threat to people. You feel like
Speaker 3: people look at you as a threat.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Lyrically, Yeah, lyrically, I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: stay away from me. For sure.
Speaker 3: Was there any particular moments that made you realize like, oh,
Speaker 3: they really scared of me. A men over there in
Speaker 3: the corner, like, please tell this story. He's which story
Speaker 3: is it? I can see what happened, what happened. It's
Speaker 3: been I've been on record, won't names.
Speaker 1: I've been on records with like people that probably loving
Speaker 1: respect because the verses better when it comes out. I
Speaker 1: don't hear it off the record.
Speaker 5: I believe like that happens.
Speaker 1: That happens a lot to me.
Speaker 3: What's so yo?
Speaker 4: Look at you don't even worry about it.
Speaker 1: It's been a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: Did you have a conversation with the artist after that,
Speaker 3: like why y'all took me off? No?
Speaker 1: I was just like, yeah, I ain't you know, we
Speaker 1: ain't built the light. I would have never did that.
Speaker 1: I would have been like, nigga, you killed me. You
Speaker 1: gotta write something else.
Speaker 4: They wanted you to be Nick Cannon.
Speaker 5: You're like, nah, I'm Nick Grant.
Speaker 1: I really.
Speaker 5: I don't be coming here playing with I don't be wilding.
Speaker 1: I'm dead crazy? All right? What did you put TD?
Speaker 3: At one point it felt like it was a TD
Speaker 3: Nick Grant thing happening that one point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it was I was. I was working
Speaker 1: with Punch on some stuff, just creative differences. He had
Speaker 1: a group and I just felt like that wasn't the
Speaker 1: direction I was going. Yeah, and I had I had
Speaker 1: to get this story out. So yeah, or they wanted
Speaker 1: you to be in a group, Yeah, we did. I
Speaker 1: actually did a group project with him. Yeah, that one,
Speaker 1: it came out, came out.
Speaker 3: I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't want to promote it because I ain't
Speaker 1: over there no more.
Speaker 5: But yeah, who.
Speaker 1: Was it you?
Speaker 3: Was you punching some other people in the group, Yes,
Speaker 3: of other people?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Who else?
Speaker 4: Yo, I don't remember, Yo, he don't know the other niggas.
Speaker 5: This nigga's crazy. Who else? I mean, I know you
Speaker 5: just said you don't want.
Speaker 1: To talk about it.
Speaker 5: Who else?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just creative differences. It's just creative differences though. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I got a lot of respect for Punch
Speaker 1: for sure, a lot of that.
Speaker 3: But do you think stuff like that is one of
Speaker 3: the reasons that Nick Grant isn't in the conversations that
Speaker 3: he probably needs to be, because people take you off
Speaker 3: of records that probably would have been.
Speaker 1: As fucking Lily one hundred million percent for sure. For sure,
Speaker 1: I'll be feeling like, Yo, the only person that kind
Speaker 1: of like ran to it, like ran to it and
Speaker 1: like respected it was Kendrick mm hmm. He was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you're one of my favorite rappers. This project is crazy.
Speaker 1: You know when we do our record, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: hold no punches, yo. And we talked like that, like
Speaker 1: just as rappers, like, Yo, this's gonna be the fight
Speaker 1: of your life, you know, fucking with me, it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be one of the ones. But yeah, he
Speaker 1: was the only one, like in the music business that's
Speaker 1: probably that ran to it.
Speaker 3: So why not reach out to somebody like him? Him
Speaker 3: and Dave got this situation now, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah with a camera, Yeah, yeah, situation the time.
Speaker 5: How about you reach out for him? Damn about you
Speaker 5: help him out?
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I know Dave, I mean I know Kendrick,
Speaker 3: but I'm sorry. I love Kendrick, but you know I
Speaker 3: have a relationship with him like that, Dave. I talked
Speaker 3: to Dave, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Asked what's up, so see what you can do?
Speaker 1: Questions, any conversation. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. We
Speaker 1: talk through like a mutual friend. But like when I've
Speaker 1: seen him, it was that was that was a conversation
Speaker 1: with us.
Speaker 3: Well, Nick Grant Sunday dinner. Man, let's get into a
Speaker 3: record off the album.
Speaker 5: What you want to playing?
Speaker 1: Man, Let's play? Uh play whatever? Let's play Uh Bravo?
Speaker 3: You want to play Bravo?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What Brobo is like? That's you celebrate yourself again?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, what is this? I like to see people
Speaker 3: celebrating themselves? Man? What told you.
Speaker 1: Down necessarily about just about everybody? Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 4: What told you down to break this to bring this
Speaker 4: this about?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Damn niggas don't care.
Speaker 5: About don't all? Right?
Speaker 1: Up?
Speaker 5: All right, so we listen.
Speaker 1: The other day, doctor Drake called you the other day.
Speaker 5: Look you're looking up ship who said that online?
Speaker 1: Y'all?
Speaker 3: Somebody just told me Doctor Drake called you.
Speaker 1: Drake caught that's crazy.
Speaker 4: Allegedly, all right, Doctor dre allegedly called him saying, what, yo.
Speaker 3: Let's get it. I don't know why I have to gonna.
Speaker 5: Say no, you're not about to tell us doctor you
Speaker 5: want to jump on Bravo? You know how to tell
Speaker 5: us that, y'all.
Speaker 3: He's so stupid man. You play Bravo is Nick Grand?
Speaker 3: Nick Grant? Thank you for coming brother.
Speaker 1: How long is that was? Fifteen minutes? I'm trying to
Speaker 1: beat my record for last time. Had me up at fifteen?
Speaker 5: Hey, oh no, no, no, it's forty five.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Let's do that.
Speaker 4: That's when you asked nig about every single song individually
Speaker 4: to try to get like.
Speaker 3: It is. Nick Grant is the breakfast club. Wake that
Speaker 3: ass up in the morning, the breakfast th