WEBVTT - INTERVIEW:Nick Grant Talks New Album 'Sunday Dinner', Knowing Your Worth, Making A Classic + More 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:02.520 Wake that ass up in the morning. 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:07.880 Breakfast Club Morning, everybody is Steen, j n V. Charlamagne 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:10.160 the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Jesscellaris is here. 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:12.520 Of course, we got a special guest in the building. 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.360 This new album, Sunday Dinner, is available now. Ladies and gentlemen, 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.239 Nick Grant, Nick, what. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.320 Y'all, thank you for having me. I appreciate it. 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:21.720 Apologies, man, please forgive me for sleeping on Sunday. 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:22.599 Nah. So good. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.600 I got I just got to it, man, I really 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:27.720 just got to it. One of the best rap albums 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:29.520 of the year. I got it. I got it right 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:33.280 under Killer Mike by Just the Hair, by Just the Hair, 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:34.400 by Killing Mike Michael. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.599 Nick's like, all right, man, I respect it. I respect it. 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:39.480 You know. I feel like this is the best album 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.560 of I think it's the best wrap album sure for sure. Yeah. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.400 Why do you feel that way? It's other than other 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:46.120 than because it's you. 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.800 M just lyrically, I think I'm like above a lot 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:52.800 of people. I just don't get that credit just because 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:55.280 you know, I don't have certain backing, I don't have 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.440 certain things that you know, or I might or I 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.160 might just be a threat to a lot of different. 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.080 You say that, Yeah, for sure, for sure. So yeah, 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.040 that's that's just what I feel. Explain, I'm not favorite 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.120 Sunday Dinner's just basically me just growing up in my 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:13.040 grandmother's crib. My mom and father had like addiction issues, 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.880 and you know they in the periods of like breaking 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.039 up and trying to figure it out, I would go 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:20.640 back to my grandmother's house. You know, she was a 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.360 little older raising me. But it was like, yo, all right, 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:27.000 I got three rules, school, Church, Sunday dinner, you know, 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.880 and I'm just picking up all of these different personalities 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.160 that I want to become and don't want to becoming. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:36.360 Essentially everybody becomes, you know, an experience on the album. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.320 Now when you talk about rapping, you talk about the 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.959 way that you wrap. You don't really hear that nowadays, right, 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.360 Does that bother you? Deter you from from you spitting? 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:46.960 Because you know, growing up, I'm sure there were so 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:48.720 many there was. You could go from Nas to Jade, 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:50.480 you can go from Tai Lib the most Death, you 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.360 can go to Kanye. It was so many people that 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.000 were doing lyricism. You don't really hear that much. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:57.680 I used to be pissed off about it. But I 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.520 feel like my purpose and my story is just a 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:01.520 little differ, you know. I feel like I'm meant to 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.680 be in this error just because maybe because it's lacking 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:06.680 in this time, and that's my job to kind of 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.440 carry on tradition in a way. I used to be 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.079 upset about it, but it doesn't bout. 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:14.919 That point in my opinion. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.040 You have soundtrack music like I'm talking about, like, yeah, 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.800 I like that because I listened to it and I'm like, okay, 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:22.600 I hear Belly state Property. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:25.840 I'm like, Okay, now he really really. 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.520 Is spitting like ain't nobody else you know out here, 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:29.800 like really really getting. 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.840 Like I like that. The second hand music on the soundtrack. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.480 What second hand music? No? 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.480 No, When they make the soundtrack, they be like, I'm 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:39.720 gonna say this ship for the album. 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.840 See so said Now I was gonna be like, you 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.239 know what, because we ain't got good movies like that 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.840 no more? All right, so we need that took me 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.400 back to like Belly. I ain't say Belly that was trash, 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.919 but you know the first Belly all right? Then the 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.080 state property, all right, you know what I mean? Minne 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.519 society takes me back to good movies like that. 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.560 Now I'm with your which, yeah. 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.800 I disagree with what he said though only because when 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.720 you look at the last decade or so with hip hop, 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.440 the top rappers, the top three rappers are all literally 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.080 yeah you know what I mean, and that's Cole, Kendrick 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.280 and Drake. And then you still got your wallet's and 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.320 your big Sean. You had your nipsies, you know, you 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.079 had like all of those people rahapsy snaps, Like I 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.440 think all of those people dope. I just think sometimes 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:25.399 it's just a matter of time. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.280 I agree with that. With that, more have you have? 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.320 You had your I made it moment yet. 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.400 I think one of I had. I had a few moments. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.720 Now I'm like proud of I think like touring with 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.040 like Nas and Lauren Hills, it was like a good 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.520 one for me. Yeah, just the experience of it was like, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:42.320 it's dope. 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:43.760 You said that on the album and I'm like, I 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:45.480 missed When he was on tour with Lauren Hill. 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:51.600 The line somebody missed that show when she was they had. 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:56.360 To do more songs, perform the whole album Jesus again 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:57.000 to come out. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.280 What was the boar you said you used to? 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.160 I used to watch Sister acts my cousin passed away, 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.360 like on the field trip, So I wrapped about it 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:09.160 on the album. I remember everybody like just going to 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:10.480 see him. I didn't want to see him like that. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.920 This was like my best friend. So I was like, Yo, 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:14.360 I'm gonna watch this movie. I'm gonna sit here and 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:16.040 watch this movie. I'm ten years old in the crib 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.599 watching this movie by myself. It kind of helped just 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.839 get me through that moment, through that trauma. So yeah, 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.080 when I remember telling her about it on the album, 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.760 I mean on a tour, oh wow, and just kind 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.240 of she just kind of helped me in that way. 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.320 So I kind of felt like, you know, it was 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.200 it was good. It was It was a perfect time. 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.160 That was something I was running away from. A lot 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:36.600 of the stuff you hear on the album is like 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.400 a lot of just real life situations that I was 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.240 running from and I just finally had to like look 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:42.800 in the mirror and be like, Yo, it's time. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.360 So was it that moment on tour with Lauren remembering 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:50.120 yourself watching Sister that made you finally deal with the passing? 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.320 Absolutely? Absolutely? This This is an album that I wanted 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:54.800 to put out a mirror tell you this is like 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.160 one of the albums I wanted to put out when 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.320 I first came out, But I don't. I don't think 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.120 I was like much sure enough to tell it the 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:04.000 way that I'm telling it now. When I first came in, 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.039 I was, you know, like a wide eyed child. But 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:08.640 now I'm just in a place where I'm like, you know, 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:13.239 I'm matured enough. I'm thirty five now, so it's like, okay, 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:13.880 and you still. 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.680 Look younger, you know what I mean? 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.839 Was it growth? Did you do some work on yourself? 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:23.560 Absolutely? Therapy for sure? For sure, Like you know, you're 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.000 not you're not You're like, you're not in control of 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.800 anything for real. You're under God's law. And you got 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.680 to find a way to fit into that. And I 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.479 had to. I had to, you know, figure that out. 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.279 And I just found found the courage to tell the story. 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.279 Like even when you listen to like the intro of 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.440 the album, it's like my mom, you know, my mom 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.400 is like yelling at a boyfriend, but you know, and 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.640 it's and it's it's a way that I never wanted 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.479 the world to see my mom. So it's like, all right, 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.960 that's the first step. The thing that I fear the 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.040 most got to open the album, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.560 So and the universe worked in a way to where 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.560 not the universe God worked in a way to where 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.880 it just fit perfectly on the album and opened up 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:01.239 the album. 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.000 So do you have a favorite song on their or 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.160 what song means the most? A? 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.440 Yeah, I like that. What song makes you most emotional? 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.320 Most emotional? I think it's the intro ar about classic, 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.520 worry about the Classic, like just talking about all of 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.800 that stuff. And I remember going to like my neighborhood 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.000 and I remember he wa Mir pulled up one day 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.040 and he was like, Yo, ain't a windows on these buildings? 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.599 And the whole time I lived there, I never really 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:30.440 noticed that because it was like normal to me. So 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.040 those things, those little things on the album was like 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.400 things that I was scared to face once again. And 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:37.960 I kind of like just put it together and kind 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:38.560 of got it right. 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.159 That's a great record. And you say in the hook, 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.240 you say I'm trying to get my people right, but 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.120 y'all worried about the Classic. Explain that because I got 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:46.520 some thoughts. 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.240 For me, it was like yo, I'm like I'm going 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.960 through like different things. I'm like mature and I'm like 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.799 finding myself. I'm going through like a whole bunch of stuff, 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:59.680 just family wise, career wise as well. And while I'm 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:01.520 going through these things, you get people like yo when 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:03.799 the album coming. When the album drop, it like Nigga 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:05.960 did You Boy the last album. So I'm going through 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:10.400 stuff like through these different things, and that's what that's 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.520 what inspired like the hook, And I'm just like seeing 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.600 people like, you know, not to be dark, but I'm 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.840 just seeing people die young and hearing about yo, people 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.680 that I saw growing up, like leaving, leaving us. So 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:23.480 that was one of the things that I just wanted 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.240 to address. And it's like, Yo, I got like real 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.360 life issues. And it's crazy because I feel like I 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.360 made my best body of work, not trying to make 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.080 my best body of work, you know. 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:36.160 Because I would think getting your people right would be 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:38.560 part of you making a classic record. Like if you 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:42.320 make a classic and it takes off, that's more money 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.520 for sure, you know. So you kind of do. Got 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:45.320 to focus on. 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.960 The album, absolutely, you do, you do. But I feel 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:50.840 like the kind of person I am, the kind of 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.120 artist I am. You got to live life as well. Absolutely, 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:54.720 you gotta live life and you know. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.800 Because that's what creates absolutely that class people. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.400 I mean, I don't I would imagine I'm not an 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.880 artist never then yeah. 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.800 But I'm saying like in form of music, like I mean, 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.400 I spit a little u bit of buzz too, But 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:07.160 you know we're. 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:10.520 Not gonna get there all right, wait ripping on any 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:11.080 beasts Like. 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.960 Right, No, what I'm saying, I think you you would. 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:19.080 Have to go through live life and go through your 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.800 just just your your trying times and challenges. That's what 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.040 makes the classic. Nobody goes in the studio like yo, 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:26.560 I'm gonna in. 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:27.200 The class of today. 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:27.960 You don't know too. 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.320 It's you don't know until the people tell. 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.959 You, removed by the spirit, made to be moved by 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.360 something bigger than you, you know, and me a lot 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.960 of times, it's all about just carrying the integrity in there. 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.440 Like I read something like that Quincy Jones said, He's like, Yo, 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.160 when you think about money while you're creating, God walks 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.120 out of the rooms. You know, so you gotta you 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.320 gotta keep that first, you gotta keep you know, the story. 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:51.960 The story is the most important. I feel like your 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.680 story is a superpower, and definitely I never really felt 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:55.880 like that until this album. 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.280 And I always wonder why when it comes to music, 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.439 they want artists to be everything but themselves, Like they'll 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:02.600 bring you in the studios and you need to make 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:03.920 this kind of record and that kind of record, but 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.440 none of it is what you actually want to make, right, 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:10.160 So sure, what's easier? Is it easier to make those 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.000 bullshit records? Are it easier to do this? 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.400 It's easier to do this for me? Okay, this is 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.360 easier for me. I think the hardest part was facing it. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.400 But now that once I got into the groove of it, 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.400 I won't say it was the easiest thing because the 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.560 hardest thing was the internal work. But you know, once 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.760 I got into like making the album, it became it's like, Yo, 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.800 this ain't that bad, you know what I'm saying naturally 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:32.560 kind of just putting the words together. That's like my 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.920 that's like my ship. So it's like perfect. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.599 I love the line. It's like the niggas player a 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:42.160 game called Who Could Die the Fast? Yeah, I mean 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:43.560 I know it inspired it, but what was it had 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.120 to be like a moment that inspired that? 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.120 Just hearing about this kid that I knew like like 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:52.040 growing up, like man, he's just wilding, you know, just 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.800 outside you know what I'm saying, just and just hearing 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:55.600 about that. 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.680 And living like they have nothing to live for. 0:09:57.880 --> 0:09:59.719 Like you're gonna get a you know, extra man and 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:03.360 some shit like it's crazy. Like so yeah, I felt 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.079 like I had to start start that hook off right. 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.000 The hook is one of the most important things to me. 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.680 Now that's something that I learned. So it's like, yeah, 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.800 I gotta I gotta say something that's like, you know, 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.520 don't stick to them like soul food, Sunday dinner. 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.200 Let's let's go to know your worth. You know. Another 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.200 great record is that something you have to tell yourself constantly. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.760 Not constantly, but it was something like like I felt 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:33.800 like I have to like celebrate, celebrate myself a little 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.360 more because it's like work, work, work, figure out my problems, 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.440 figure out the problems of the family, figure out all 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.280 this other shit, and just having so much on my 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:44.719 shoulders to it. It was like, you know, yes, like and 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.360 then when I wrote it, I was like, yo, it's 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.959 something about a black man just saying knowing you're worth 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.720 and yeah, you know, celebrating yourself and patting yourself on 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.839 the back the smallest thing, because you still celebrate the 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:55.959 smallest thing in your journey. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:57.959 So because women say that often, you don't really hear 0:10:58.000 --> 0:10:58.800 men say that, like. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:10:59.960 For sure, for sure. 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.840 But that's that's the problem. No, it ain't no little 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:04.760 sassy know what. Ain't you gotta know your worth? 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:07.719 Ain't nothing sassy about knowing your work just saying about it. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:08.720 It's just that women. 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.480 We we like to say it a lot, and sometimes 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.439 women say it and don't even know they worth. They 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.960 just shouted because it's something to be said now. But 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:18.960 not knowing you worth, that's for all human beings. 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.320 Like you have to know for sure what is a 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.320 man's worth though, because you know, most of the time 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.000 men uh, people based all work on what we can provide. 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:29.920 I hate when they ask questions like that, So what's 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:30.880 really a man's worth? 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:38.440 Like, yo, it's always right, But what really is a 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:39.040 man's work? 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:44.040 I don't know, you. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.720 For it's based on like like just the person you are, 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.360 Like yeah, you know what you what you think, what 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.320 you deem is like you know important? You know me, 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.160 I'm all about family, I'm all about you know, just 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.760 helping people My whole mentality is like lif as you 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:00.640 climbing and like when you get to you do this 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.440 ship very well. If you guys, thank you, but you've 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.520 been supporting me, like since day one. It's like even 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.360 just being from Carolina, that ship is hard to make 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.480 it out of Carolina. So like when you get to 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.800 a certain place, you help somebody up, and when you 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:16.480 might get to a place where you need help and 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.800 that person can the person that you help in just 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.960 a cycle. So that's what it's about for me. 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.720 Is it hard though? Because you know your family see 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.600 you and you're rapping, and you know they see you 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.280 on TV or whatever, and they think that you might 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:29.600 have more than what you have. 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:33.840 Absolutely absolutely niggas a quate TV with money, niggas videos 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:37.319 with money. It's like, you know, I ain't struggling. I'm good, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.480 but I'm like I could be in better positions to 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.079 help you if you just kind of let me give 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:43.719 me some grace to kind of grow a little more, 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:44.280 you know what I'm saying. 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:45.599 So, yeah, do they believe that? 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:46.439 Huh? 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:47.040 Do they believe? 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.040 You can get a couple more calls? 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.640 You drop to there. 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.920 And he was asking your word and how much. 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:02.559 Was that interview with. 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:05.840 You for real? 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.400 Sure? Watching for sure? 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.760 Yeah, I want to I want to jump to the 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.920 record heaven. Mmm where did tweet? Where you get tweet from? 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:14.240 Now? 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.400 DM tweet? You know, I'm like a huge fan of tweet, 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:18.720 Like the whole I always say, like, Yo, when I 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.560 was growing up, if I was signed to anybody, it'd 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.280 have been Missy tweets. Yeah, just that, just that whole 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:27.760 camp just so innovative, so creative, and man, I just 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.920 loved her voice. Southern humber Bird, Southern hummer bird is 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.000 like a classic to me, So I just DM it. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.040 She hit me back like, Yo, you're incredible. I would 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.240 love to Oh wow, I came by the studio just 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:43.600 black women. Wow, you know real black woman. Liken't even 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:48.240 finish the song one of them for sure, So yeah, no, 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.400 good energy, special person. I love tweets. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.280 Did you already have the record playing out? Did you 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:53.960 know what you want to do? 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.600 I had to beat and I wrote the hook, and 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.360 she came in and sung the hook like I like 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:02.520 demoed it. But I was like stuck, like stuck creating 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.960 the records. But once you get the hook, my shit 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.800 just came so naturally. I was like, man, you can't 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.200 play with this one. You've been trying to get this 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:10.760 feature forever. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:12.000 That's what's up. 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.559 Okay, So what's the story. What's the story you're trying 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.239 to tell on Heaven? You're trying to convic. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.520 The story on Heaven is basically it's still in theme, 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.280 still in theme with the album, and still align with 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:28.680 the album. But it's like I felt like even when 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.680 I started with the first verse, like damn, nigga, you 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.800 brave saying you never sold crack in the funny industry 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:35.520 where everything is in act, you know, you know, my 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.440 whole story was like, man, I would get the interviews 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.720 in line and say, act like this perfect person, and 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.200 I wasn't you know what I'm saying, because I was 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.560 afraid motherfuckers to see who I really was, you know, 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.640 judge me, you know, But I think that was just 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.560 a young thing. Yeah, I got, I'm not perfect. I got. 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.320 I got a lot of things that I'm working on. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.720 And you know, you're worth for sure, for sure. 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.400 That's the strangest thing when you're in the industry there, right, 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:02.000 because you're young, you really don't know yourself, right, but 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.360 now you they want you to be something that you're not. 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.640 You feel like you gotta be something that you show. 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:08.080 So how do you when do you? When do you 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.080 do you feel like you finally find yourself. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:13.320 Absolutely okay, not not not one hundred percent, but enough 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.840 to where I found a foundation, you know what I'm saying, 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:20.680 and out of like just just just the simple things. Man, 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.120 smile when you see people pull your pants up. I 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.400 was raised by my grandma. She was born in nineteen nineteen. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.640 So the wisdom that I got from her, you know 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.320 what I'm saying, Like those little things that I never 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.880 paid attention to until I got a certain age, Those 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.760 little things that take you a long way, take me 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.760 further than you know all this other shit that you 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:40.880 focused on would take you. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:42.840 So so is that why Grandma said is wouldn't know 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.760 your work? Because absolutely go hand in hand Like your 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:46.600 grandmother had. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.280 Absolutely a million a million percent, Like even with my 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.920 cousin from the beginning, like Nigga get in the house. 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.960 It's like certain things that trigger certain ones, trigger certain 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:59.280 words and kind of helps the album flow. You're doing homework, 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:00.440 yeah on this own? 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:02.800 Yeah, not for really over there yo. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.440 Once you know he listened to every. 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:12.720 Song, So tell me about heaven like lyrics, like so when. 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:22.520 You said looking out on the box, look up lyrics 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.920 and so did your grandmother help you write in number six? 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:29.040 Like, yo, come on, are they putting pressure on you 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:30.400 to put off for South Carolina? 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:35.720 Oh? Man, it's a good question. I'm putting pressure on myself. Really. 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:37.680 It's a lot of people that still don't know from 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.320 South Carolina, even though I waved the flag so heavily, 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:42.720 and you influenced me with that in a way, like 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.680 even we're coming out, like yo, you got a whole 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.280 state to yourself, Like yeah, you gotta do that. And 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.240 these are like my experiences, like even when I went home, 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.880 I shot a movie. It's always love. I shot a 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:58.160 movie like a short comedy for the album. And just 0:16:58.200 --> 0:16:59.920 like the people and all the memories and all the 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.120 different things, you got a few people that's like, man, 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.199 keep you know, repping the city for South Carolina, Like 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.359 you're the one that kind of that's kind of like 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:09.920 a thing that keeps me going when I. 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:11.920 Hear that you got to go to the International African 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:13.720 American Museum. Man, you ain't been there yet, not yet, 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:14.000 not yet. 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.320 I'm gonna go open over the summer for sure over 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:18.760