1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: Two pros and a cup of Joe. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: he here. Coming up on this Tuesday edition, We've got 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 2: a move being made in the NFL. 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: It's at the running back position. 6 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: We're going to break down who had benefits and why 7 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: it makes sense or maybe doesn't make sense. 8 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: I know somebody who's not a fan of it. Pete Prisco. 9 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: He stops by with stories from the combine, quarterback hot takes, 10 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: and yes, his thoughts on that deal that went through 11 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 2: yesterday between Detroit and Houston. We're also going to have 12 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: a conversation about Trey Young his debut with the Washington Wizards. 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: Well it hasn't happened yet, but he still got kicked 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: out of a game. We'll discuss what his future looks 15 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: like as far as a potential Hall of Fame candidate. 16 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: We're going to get the very latest on Magic City Night. 17 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: Somebody in the league is not a fan of it. 18 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: We've also got Daniel Jones and the Indianapolis Colts. His 19 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: DJ set up for another big payday. Bruce Pearl. It's 20 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: got controversial thoughts on Miami of Ohio. And we've got 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: the usual fun stuff. It's all yours next year and 22 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: a cup of Joe on a Tuesday, Fox Sports Radio, 23 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: and away we go on a Tuesday morning. It is 24 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: two Pros and a cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio. 25 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: As always, you can find this show on the iHeartRadio app. 26 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: You can always listen to us on hundreds of affiliates 27 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: all across the country. We will be taking you live 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: all the way up until nine am Eastern time, six 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: o'clock Pacific. And if you're listening on the podcast, we 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: appreciate you doing so as we are rocking and rolling 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: on this three hour extravaganza. How we feeling here on 32 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: this Tuesday morning? 33 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: Fine? Ready to rock and roll? 34 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: Come on? 35 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? Morning eight? All right? Yeah right, well, okay, how's uh, 36 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: how's Moscow? Brady? 37 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: How to. 38 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: Let's just say this, I wasn't sure if I was 39 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: going to be able to. 40 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: Make it for the show today, so wow, I wasn't 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 4: sure ifoul is going to be ransom for someone else? 42 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: What was going on? 43 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: So I hope people realize that we really do roll 44 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: the dice, no pun intended. 45 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that I rolled the dice on this one. 46 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 4: They just maybe curious next time, you know, we we 47 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: figure out a way to get to and from you. 48 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, it's uh, it's that time of the morning. 49 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: But about vampire as far about they're real, man, they're real. 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: I sit with one every day. Damn. Yeah, I'm just sad. 51 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: It's the truth. Damn it's rude. But the vampires in Texas? 52 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Where are you? 53 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: I don't even want to ask y'all. Y'all got an 54 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 5: inside bit going right now. I don't you know what 55 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 5: it is. I don't know what it is. So you know, 56 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 5: it's fine. 57 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: No, there's no bit. 58 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: I texted you. 59 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 4: I told you it was a dicey little car ride 60 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 4: get into the studio today. 61 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 5: So I didn't even check my my text messages. Yeah 62 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 5: damn ye, so yeah, right. 63 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: That happens. 64 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: My bad. 65 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: But but made the flight right. Everything's everything was good. No, No, 66 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: that was a. 67 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: Whole separate story. I mean, that could have been an FSR. 68 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: I R it was. 69 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 4: It was one of those where I was trying to 70 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 4: make a certain time and you know, to get to 71 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: Las Vegas for something, and unfortunately, because of de icing. Man, 72 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, de icing takes forever at some of 73 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 4: these airports, that caused me to miss the connection, and 74 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 4: then I was basically stuck. 75 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 3: In a particular airport for the rest of the day. 76 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: So it is what it is. Thankful, blessed to be, 77 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: you know, blessed to be out here. But yeah, no, 78 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: it was it was the ride here was a little 79 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: bit crazy. I'll just leave it at that. 80 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know skeet in Las Vegas. Sometimes 81 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: you know, hey, look. 82 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: Man, this time of morning, we're a super Bowl. That's 83 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: just the way that town rolls. Like, that's just you know, 84 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: when you're trying to get to do the show in 85 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: the two am hour to for a three am local 86 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: star time, that's just the way they roll. 87 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: Man. 88 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: People are up. 89 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 4: Hearing a lot of complaints about the in affordability now 90 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: of Las Vegas, so that that is like a consistent theme. 91 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 4: Doesn't matter who picks you up, they'll start talking about it. 92 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: Like, I don't know what it want me to do 93 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, we people still keep coming out 94 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: here for conventions and. 95 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 3: Work, man. I mean I I don't know what I 96 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: want me. 97 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: To tell you. Is it like what cost of a 98 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: living or just everything? 99 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just know, like what we've talked about before 100 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 4: you know, they charge for every now you know, parking drinks, 101 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 4: when you're gambling, even the buffets are more expensive, and 102 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: just it's hard for you know, it's made people to 103 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 4: come back out and afford it. 104 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: Oh no, now I'm up to speed. Okay, are you 105 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: at the same studio? 106 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: No different one? It's again. Would have would have been 107 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: nice because that was even even closer to m hm, 108 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: well sin city man. Just try not sinning easy for anybody. 109 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 4: I get in and I get out. All work, all right. 110 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: On the subject of the NFL, no feel and yeah, 111 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: no feelings, not for long. This was kind of speculated 112 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: about following the combine that maybe there was a move 113 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: that was going to be made, and there was a 114 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: move that was made, as David Montgomery of the Detroit 115 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: Lions was traded to the Houston Texans in exchange for 116 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: offensive lineman Juice Scruggs and two draft picks, a twenty 117 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: twenty six fourth round pick this year and then next 118 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: year a seventh round pick, which we'll probably get traded 119 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: around two or three more times, and then that'll be 120 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: featured in my bottom mock ten draft that we'll do 121 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: next year. 122 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: But that is the move. 123 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: It felt like they were heading in this direction. Montgomery's 124 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: got a year left on his deal. Jamir Gibbs is 125 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: clearly the guy. So Detroit probably feels like we can 126 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: get younger, we can get cheaper in the draft of 127 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: that position for a complimentary back. But the Houston Texans 128 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: do get some help at running back, which they desperately needed. 129 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 2: Nobody seems to know what the hell's going on with 130 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: Joe Mix and it appears that he's most likely going 131 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: to get released based on reports. It was not available 132 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: at all last year. There was wild speculation about what 133 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: was really going on with him. And so you had 134 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: Woody Marx, you had Nick Chubb, which was not a 135 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: lot of help for the Houston Texans quarterback CJ. 136 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: Stroud. 137 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 2: So it feels like makes some sense provide some assistance 138 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: and some help to the Texans and their running attack. 139 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: And now the Detroit Lions are most likely probably going 140 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: to attack this themselves in the draft to find somebody 141 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: to be the next in line to help out Jamier 142 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: Gibbs in that backfield as well too. 143 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 4: I get this for Detroit. You draft capital in return, 144 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: and you're moving on with the player you feel like 145 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: is the better player, you want to give more touches, 146 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 4: So it makes sense, you know, you don't have to 147 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: divide carries with David Montgomery. 148 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 3: How does this make as much sense for the Texans? 149 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: I feel like they've done this a number of times 150 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 4: under Nikassia, their general manager, that they go to a 151 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 4: veteran running back. And again we have Pete prisco on 152 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: and he will tell you running backs grow on trees. 153 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: He's unfortunately pound that into my brain to the point 154 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: where now I do question saying, like David Montgommer's had 155 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: a lot of carries, a lot of wear and tear. 156 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 4: He's a veteran. He comes in and immediately you know, 157 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: you know he can do his job. But how does 158 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: this make as much sense for the Texans? Like why 159 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 4: would they use a mid round pick or something to 160 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: go with a guy who'll be younger, who they could 161 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: maybe get more out of the long run as opposed 162 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 4: to giving up that draft capital to a team that's 163 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 4: you know, still very much much in the mix. I 164 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: know it's in a different conference. I just it doesn't 165 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: make as much sense to me for the Texans as 166 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 4: it does for the Lions. 167 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 6: Uh. 168 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 5: I battle with myself on the idea that running backs 169 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 5: are a dime a doesen't I battle with myself and listen, 170 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 5: there are a lot of talented running backs out there. 171 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 5: What you don't have a lot of our talented dual 172 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: duo backs. When you have talented dual backfields, it makes 173 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 5: for a more productive season by one of those guys. 174 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 5: Somebody emerges, another one may play the background, one may 175 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 5: re emerge, the other one. 176 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: May take a backstep to that. 177 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 5: And it seems to one keep a healthy a healthy 178 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 5: level of internal, you know, competition, But I think it 179 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 5: also is a way to keep your guys, you know, 180 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 5: playing at a high level throughout the course of a season. 181 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 5: Now he's dealt with with an mcl injury out at 182 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 5: some point, a couple injuries during his career, but for 183 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 5: the most part, I mean, Montgomery has been a reliable, 184 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 5: solid back for this team. I just think this, this 185 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 5: this doesn't to me, And I know I always sound 186 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 5: like I'm negative, But when you start disrupting the fabric 187 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 5: of what makes a team a team, then now you're 188 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 5: going down the lane where there's uncertainty as to possibly 189 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 5: and potentially what they could be. If Jamiir Gibbs is 190 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 5: the full time guy, which he will be the full 191 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 5: time guy this year without having that change up back. 192 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 5: They are very different styles, contrasting styles in the way 193 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 5: they run. One is more powerful in between the tackles 194 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 5: while the other one is a more coast to coast, 195 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 5: big play, explosive player. If he has to go in 196 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 5: there for the duration and the load of what's going on, 197 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 5: or you get a backup that isn't as effective as 198 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 5: Montgomery was and how he was able to run the 199 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 5: ball and beat the defense up and soften the belly. 200 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 5: Maybe Jamir Gibbs isn't as productive as he's in being 201 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 5: with Montgomery in the backfield. That would be my biggest 202 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 5: concern for Detroit And I just wonder does this signal 203 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 5: a slight I won't say a total rebuild because it's 204 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 5: just this is their first year not having the type 205 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 5: of success that they need it, But I mean they 206 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 5: finished last in their division, So does this signal a change? 207 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 5: I think that that would be my biggest question is 208 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 5: not what did you get out of it? Where are 209 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 5: you trying to go? What are what is your maneuvering 210 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 5: here for? And it would would assume you would assume 211 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 5: it was the lack of results that they were able 212 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 5: to get last year. 213 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: From the Detroit side of things. 214 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Look, Dan Campbell alluded to it, you know, 215 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: and you made mention of this yesterday that you know, 216 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: you can't who knows if you'll ever get back to 217 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: this point again. And if you just look at the 218 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: Lions on a two year run, they went from you know, 219 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: basically the same old Lions. Got some momentum because they 220 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: beat Green Bay on the on the season finale in 221 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: week eighteen or week seventeen, whatever it was the year before, 222 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 2: and then they come to the next year, they get 223 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: to the NFC title game, they got an opportunity to 224 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: beat the Niners. Dan Campbell, you know, turns into Dan 225 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: Gamble again. They lose that game. Then they're hosting a 226 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: playoff game against Washington and lose the very next year. 227 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: And then you see this year, and I just wonder 228 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: if that was because everybody's windows a little bit differently, 229 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: if maybe that really was their peak, because now you 230 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: are starting to change the success of the team. Players 231 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: are starting to get paid. Ben Johnson is gone, you know, 232 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn's gone. It'll probably be back anyways. There's there's 233 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: like all of the like what you had there in 234 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: a bottle was broken open by a tough loss in 235 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: an NFC title game and Washington pulling off an upset 236 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: in which Detroit was melting down at home in a 237 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: playoff game, And I just, yeah, I do wonder if 238 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: that's just the way the league works. You've got your time, 239 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 2: you've got your opportunity. If you don't cash in. There 240 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: are teams like the Chiefs that have staying power. There 241 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: are teams like the Patriots that have had staying power. 242 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: The Bills seem like they're always in the mix, but maybe, 243 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: you know, Detroit's like a Cincinnati where hey, man, you 244 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: had your chance, you were at the in the super 245 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 2: Bowl with an opportunity, you didn't cash in, and this 246 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: is just going to become your reality moving forward. And 247 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: then from the Houston side, I don't know, man, I 248 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 2: just think think about it. They don't trust CJ. 249 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: Stroud. 250 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: I mean, we got to find a running game. Our 251 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: defense is a hell of a defense. We should have 252 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: been hoisting a super Bowl trophy if CJ. 253 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 5: Stroud didn't sell us, if we had a real run game, 254 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 5: we might have won the super Bowl this year. And 255 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 5: they wouldn't be wrong, not with that defense. Get your 256 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 5: running back kids, you were running gay and they tried 257 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 5: to get it with mixed. Like we said, his health 258 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 5: has been bad. 259 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 4: But I looked at it more as they needed to 260 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 4: give him some help and like get a running back 261 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: back there that can help protect them, that can help 262 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: be a check down, a dump down, something like that. 263 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 4: I mean, they moved on from Titus Howard, they traded 264 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 4: him for the Brown, so clearly they didn't feel like 265 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: he was the answer helping to protect him. But I 266 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: thought there was an element of just protecting c. J. 267 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: Stroud. Maybe you're right, maybe it is helping him out too. 268 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: I also was thinking about it. 269 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 5: But both you don't think one have to be false 270 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 5: for the other to be true on that that statement, right, the. 271 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 4: New offensive coordinator in Detroit, remember that John Morton last year, 272 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 4: Drew Petsing is now going to take over, and I 273 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 4: just I look at maybe the style of the coordinator too, 274 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: and what they're looking to build on offense and how 275 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 4: it may differ from what they had before Ben Johnson. 276 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 4: I mean, Jonas you follow the Bears, I mean, you 277 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 4: know how they kind of had a two back system 278 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: with DeAndre Swift and Kyle Manunguy, so you know that 279 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: they're and there are very different backs in the way 280 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 4: they went. 281 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: About using them. 282 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 4: So I look at that and wonder how much of 283 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 4: the Dave of Montgomery Jamiir Gibbs combination and what each 284 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 4: back did and the value that they experienced in Detroit 285 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: together was the personality of who was calling the plays, 286 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 4: you know, versus now you've got, you know, again, a 287 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 4: running back who's going to go to the Houston Texans. 288 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: Maybe David mont can be a future back or not, 289 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 4: and maybe he fits that role for what they're looking 290 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: for in Houston, but for what Drew Petsing wants to do, 291 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: he's probably saying, I need to get Jamiir Gibbs as 292 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 4: many touches as possible when he's in the prime of 293 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: his career like this. And you know, as much as 294 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 4: I like having David Montgomery, we still feel like we 295 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 4: might be missing out on a few explosive plays because 296 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 4: he's not in he's not touching the football, so there 297 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: never should be a time when he comes off the 298 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: field or very seldom, you know. I wonder how much 299 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 4: that plays a factor too, is they are trying to 300 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: reinvent themselves, at least offensively, as we saw now the 301 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: impact that the absence of Ben Johnson had that offense. 302 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: I kind of under I guess undervalued the impact of 303 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson leaving because it was like, I know, they're 304 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: getting a different play caller, but you know, still there's 305 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: a lot of talk at this point, and then it's 306 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: it's really obvious that you I mean, you saw Dan 307 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: Campbell start calling plays last year at one point because 308 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: of what was going on, and it just became really 309 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: obvious that there was really something missing there because that 310 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: the Bears turned into what the Lions had turned into 311 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: in games like in Philadelphia when they went in there 312 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: on that Black Friday game and just ran the ball 313 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: down their throat and just continued to run the ball. 314 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: It wasn't a you, They were just going to throw 315 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: it around. It looked like the Lions previously two different backs, 316 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: but it looked like a lot of Ben Johnson and 317 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: the success Detroit had. He brought that to Chicago, and 318 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: I just I wonder if in the long run, we're 319 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: going to look back at that move and go, man, 320 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: maybe that was a secret. 321 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 5: Ingredient They had a man they had a balance running 322 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 5: attack and and it kept things. It kept things honest 323 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 5: for the Detroit Lions, they were able to benefit from it, 324 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 5: and they did not have that balance this year. They 325 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 5: had great plays, big plays from Jamiir Gibbs, but they 326 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 5: did not achieve the balance that they were able to 327 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 5: under under Ben Johnson. And I mean again, I'm not 328 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 5: saying doom and gloom. I'm not saying this is the end. 329 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: But but. 330 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 5: Detroit's run, I'm not saying Montgomery is the reason why. 331 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 5: Be clear, I'm not saying he's the reason why, but 332 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 5: he's part of the total sum of the reason why. 333 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 5: There's there could be the strong possibility with the improvement 334 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 5: to steady improving of the division that they're in, that 335 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 5: their window has gotten a whole lot closer to not 336 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 5: being open. 337 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, if and Britty, you mentioned the Titus Howard trade 338 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: as well too. If you're the Texans and you've traded 339 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 2: away forty percent of your offensive line already in the 340 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: off season, is that an indication that maybe they felt 341 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: like that was something they needed to. 342 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: Get better at. I maybe there's no no. I think 343 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: maybe there's sick. 344 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: Maybe there's a you're rid of them almost maybe there's 345 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: a you know, maybe there's a tell there that they 346 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 2: might be attacking the offensive line, which there's five over 347 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: they how do you get to fifty right half of 348 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: the line. 349 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 3: Probably you get an arm and a leg somewhere in there. 350 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 4: And this is why too. I think when you look 351 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: at where the organization's out with CJ. Stroud there's a 352 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 4: commitment there. I think they know they're going to have 353 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 4: to extend him. I think for people who think that 354 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 4: there's concerns, I think they think he's a franchise guy, 355 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 4: and I think they're trying to set this thing up 356 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 4: so they can protect him better, they can give him 357 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 4: a better run game, and they can help make their 358 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 4: way through the AFC South and try to make their way. 359 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: To a super Bowl. 360 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 4: I feel like that's where they feel like this team 361 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 4: is that the defense is the defense. You knew, you know, 362 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: Demiko was gonna, you know, build up this team on 363 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 4: that side of the ball. But I feel like they're 364 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: probably listening to c J. Strouds and like, I need 365 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 4: more protection, I need better help. Any Don't get me wrong, 366 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 4: he struggled, but he has been under a lot of duress. 367 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like it's been the best protection 368 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: since he's been there. So a lot of these offseason moves, 369 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 4: I think they're setting up, you know, for this to 370 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 4: be a season that that's a big year for Houston, 371 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 4: but also for CJ. Stroud and and him cashing in. 372 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 4: As good as that defense is, they got to be 373 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: a run first team. You cannot you cannot throw games 374 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 4: away or just depend on the arm of any quarterback. 375 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: But who's a run first team? 376 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: Now? 377 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 4: I think there's still some run football almost sixty percent 378 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 4: of the time. Yeah, they might throw more, but I 379 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: still think that Georgia Tech, there are still teams that 380 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 4: that subscribe to the run being the major piece of there. Like, 381 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 4: I don't think that sixty percent just because of sixty 382 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 4: percent that they still don't think run first. Like I 383 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 4: think the Patriots was a run first team. I think 384 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 4: the both teams that were in the Super Bowl were 385 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 4: run first team. I think the Texas want to be 386 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 4: a run first team. Hell I think I think that 387 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 4: the Troy Lions want to be a run first team. 388 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: There are a lot of run first teams. The reason 389 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: why Tomlin and the Steelers weren't as effective as they 390 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: needed to be in years past recently is because they 391 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: weren't they weren't. 392 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 4: Able to be a run first. There's Lvar's opinion. Yeah, 393 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: then there's the truth. 394 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: It's an opinion. 395 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: We have any little game searcher music, there. 396 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: We go, all right, all right? 397 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 4: Who is the number one team in rush attempts for 398 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five season. 399 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not entertaining this game because at the 400 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 5: end of the day, even if you're a run, if 401 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 5: you've run the ball a lot, doesn't make. 402 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: Okay, how do you define run first? Then? Before you 403 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: ruin our game show? 404 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: How do I don't want to ruin your I don't 405 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: want to ruin I just don't want to take part 406 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 2: of it. 407 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: Okay, don't don't? Yes? Good? Yeah good? I'm going to 408 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: go Baltimore the Philadelphia Eagles. See, LaVar should have played? 409 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: LeVar should have played? Lvar. You were right. 410 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 4: The number one rush team was the Baltimore Ravens last season. 411 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 4: Do you know what percentage of rushes that was for 412 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 4: the play calls? 413 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. 414 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 3: They are the highest in the NFL. 415 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he doesn't get he doesn't get any points, 416 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 2: so that he should be docked points. 417 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: Because he cut in line. It was my turn to go. 418 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 4: But you said team every other team in the NFL 419 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: through the football when they ran at Philadelphia is actually 420 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 4: six in the list. They ran the football about forty 421 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 4: seven and a half times. 422 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 5: I think you have have to throw the ball the 423 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 5: amount of times that you have to because the other 424 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 5: teams are throwing the ball the amount of time like 425 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think that in consideration of It's 426 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 5: almost like the three point shot when Steph Curry started making. 427 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 5: You might still be a go to the rim team 428 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 5: in theory personality wise, but you might have to develop 429 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 5: and shoot more threes because they're hitting more threes. It's 430 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 5: it's an evolution and evolving of how you adjust and 431 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 5: adapt to trying to be competitive. But that doesn't mean 432 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 5: that you're still you're not a run first team. Just 433 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 5: because your percentage is lower, you still may be trying 434 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 5: to establish the run for I think those. 435 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: Stats we can we can we can have this debate. 436 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: I think you would have to. 437 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 5: I think you would have to dig deeper into the 438 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 5: stats and look at what are the percentages of runs 439 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 5: on first down? What are first down? What is the 440 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 5: percentage of runs on first down. That would establish I 441 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 5: would you second down then and potentially second down potentially you're. 442 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 4: Assuming be just going to throw a third down. And 443 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 4: what you're missing out on the teams. Teams that are 444 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 4: trailing have a high percentage of trailing, they're gonna throw 445 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: the football more because they have to get back into it. 446 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: You can't run as much. So that's correct. For example, 447 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 4: there's on our Cardinals they strolled a lot. They threw 448 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 4: it last year more than anyone. That's also because they 449 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 4: had some issues at running back. There's also some other 450 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: issues as well. But a lot of the teams that 451 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: that's struggling out you could we can say that. But 452 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 4: the Rams, for example, they threw the football about what 453 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 4: would that be fifty eight percent of the time. So 454 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 4: there's there's a good example of teams that were actually 455 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 4: good that through the football when they ran it. But 456 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 4: most teams in the NFL now are throw first teams. 457 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 4: They're not run first anymore. That's the major of the league. 458 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 5: You should be a lawyer, especially because you you moved 459 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 5: the goalposts on conversations and you get to the conclusions 460 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 5: and the way you deliver it sounds really convincing. But 461 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 5: that's not to me. You say truth versus what the 462 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 5: reality of it is. 463 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 4: Again, well, there's your opinion and then there's like the facts. 464 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 4: Now all that and that's that's there, and you can 465 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 4: keep having it. Lev's opinion, here's what the truth. 466 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: Here's what I know. 467 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: There's Levar's opinion in Brady's truth. You have a very 468 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: I'm just going out with that. Would you call him 469 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 2: the Johnny Cochrane. 470 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 5: No, because he's no, because his voice doesn't come across 471 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 5: as a minority voice. It's a very trusting majority voice. 472 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that's supposed to me. 473 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: You know, I know you're American, white. 474 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 3: And Johnny Cochran got done it for the ones. 475 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 4: Granger offers access to products and the scale delivered when 476 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: and where you need them, the right tools and supplies. 477 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 4: They're never far away, even glove sometimes call Clickgranger dot. 478 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: Com or just stop by. If it doesn't fit, you 479 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: must have quit. 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Coming a fifteen minutes from now, We're 514 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 2: gonna tell you about one team who may be getting 515 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: a little bit desperate to try and draw an audience 516 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: in the world of sports. That'll be yours right here 517 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. But right now it is time 518 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: for the tire Rak Play of the Day. 519 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 9: We have a technical foul on Trey Young for running 520 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 9: on the court and he has been. 521 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: Ejective, oh wow wow. 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And a 531 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: congratulations to Tray Young of the Wizards. Yeah yeah, that 532 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: a baby. 533 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: How you can get fout of your day off? That's crazy. 534 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: I can't come on the court argue calls. Hasn't even 535 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: played yet, already got ejected out of the game. Can 536 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: I ask this about Trey Young? 537 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 4: I feel like he came into the NBA as the 538 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: second coming, or at least was billed as the second 539 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 4: coming of Steph Curry. 540 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: Is that fair? Yeah? Hasn't exactly gone the way we thought. 541 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 4: And I know it took Steph Curry a little while 542 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: befo for he became Steph Curry. And by the way, 543 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 4: no one's gonna doubt Tree Jung's talent. But why in 544 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 4: your minds has he not come together the way they thought? 545 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 3: And this leak's built for him, right? I mean it's 546 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: it is a. 547 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 4: Three point shooting, spread it out, you know, that's where 548 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 4: the game is. It literally plays into his skill set 549 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 4: and into his hand. 550 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 5: We'll never see another Steph Curry. So if they if 551 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 5: he was being built up to be the next Steph Curry, 552 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 5: that's that's that's strike number one two and three already, 553 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 5: Like you can compare the dude, and and he's got 554 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 5: great handles, he's he's been pretty good in terms of 555 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 5: distribution of the ball. He can score. He developed a 556 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 5: nice reputation in Atlanta. But he's not he's not he's 557 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 5: not even an A level He's not an A level 558 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 5: talent in in the league. He's really good, and he's 559 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 5: had really really bright moments, but there's not a level 560 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 5: of consistency and there's not a level of dominance connected 561 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 5: to his game where he impacts games on a on 562 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 5: a regular basis like us Steph Curry. I mean, he's 563 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 5: also Steph Curry. Also, I think had a better infrastructure 564 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 5: than Trey Young. 565 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: That's that's fair. 566 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's Atlanta has been a bit of a 567 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: mess for a long time. Now, that's a good call. 568 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: This actually surprised me because look, we went to that. 569 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 5: Same infrastructure, the same team, had the same players, Trey 570 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 5: Young still with pale in comparison to Steph Curry. Just 571 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 5: and that's Levard's opinion. That that's probably not truth, but 572 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 5: that's Levard's opinion. 573 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: Is that a sensitive fine sensitive? 574 00:28:54,240 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: No? No, I just like that's odd. I love and 575 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: sing back things. What was it in reference to him the 576 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: last segment. 577 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, get ball. But that's that's what Q does. Q 578 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 5: Q hits me with. There's the truth and then there's 579 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 5: levard's opinion. 580 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm just hay other stats. Dude. 581 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: You don't have to get upset because I'm upset what 582 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 4: it says. 583 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 5: Bro Listen, that's a misleading stat But to everybody out there, 584 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 5: go go with the misleading stat and and and love 585 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 5: and love and live with it. 586 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: Can I give you a can I give you Let 587 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: me just throw this out there. 588 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: Four time All Star he was, he was runner up 589 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: for Rookie of the Year. 590 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 591 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 4: I just want to be clear. I'm not making the 592 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: case that he hasn't had a good career. That add 593 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 4: is a good career thus far throughout the course of it. 594 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 4: I think people tend to forget how good he was 595 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 4: coming out of Oklahoma. Sure, I mean he averaged twenty 596 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 4: seven points a game, about nine assists a game. I 597 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 4: mean he was firing shots from the logo type style 598 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: of play and it and again, maybe you're right, maybe 599 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 4: it is the infrastructure around Atlanta, given given some of 600 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 4: the decisions they've made, and in particular of late you 601 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 4: know it was a Magic City night though. 602 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got enough that by the way it happened, 603 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: things outside of the ground, not everybody players. You had 604 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: to cancel that. 605 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,239 Speaker 5: But here's here's why I thought you guys were going 606 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 5: to say Kyrie Irving, he would be more of a 607 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 5: comparison to Kyrie than to Steph Curry. 608 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: Well kind of. I don't think that it took it 609 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: to the rack like that. I don't feel like that 610 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: was his game, took it to the whole. It was 611 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: a slasher. He was more of a He's a jump shooting, 612 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: jump shooter slasher. 613 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: If there was if there was no Steph Curry, Trey 614 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: Young would be viewed completely different because if you just 615 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: look at his numbers and and the natural instinct is 616 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 2: to compare him to Steph Curry and and I totally 617 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: get it, and it's fair. But if you just looked 618 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: at his numbers, if you looked at his numbers, Tray 619 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 2: Young third all time in assists per game. He trails 620 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: I think John Stockton and Magic Johnson. He's for h 621 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: Steph Curry because because it's a different and Steph Curry's 622 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: not on that list. Steph Curry is A score is 623 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: a score, but it's not like Trey Young can't score. 624 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: The guy's averaging twenty six a game for his career. 625 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: Like he's had a really, really, really good career, but 626 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: he'll never compare to Steph Curry. And so because there's 627 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: always going to be that comp he's never going to 628 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: be able to live up to that. 629 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: He's just not going to. 630 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: And it doesn't like he's had a wonderful career, but 631 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,959 Speaker 2: I think the Steph Curry being present and playing at 632 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: the same time is going to completely overshadow whatever trade. 633 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 1: Andrey Young is going to be a Hall of Famer. No, 634 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: he won't, Yes he will. You don't think Trey Young's 635 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: going to be a Hall of Famer. No, Ben Wallace 636 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: was a Hall of Fame. 637 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: He's got championships, like three of them, like big time, 638 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: big time basketball played by Ben Wallace. I think Ben 639 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: Walls has one title, maybe one, and you know that's 640 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: more than one. 641 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: And he's like an eight point game score two two titles. 642 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he rebounded and he played defense also with 643 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: the with the Basketball Hall of Fame as points, as 644 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: Ben Maller likes to point out, Muffett McGraw was in 645 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: UH is in the Basketball Hall of Fame. 646 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: All Right, we get there. 647 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 4: The drums ready, here we go, let's go, there we go. 648 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 4: How many championships has Ben Wallace one? 649 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: I thought he had at least two? Is only one? 650 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: It's just one? 651 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: Do you go four? 652 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 4: But didn't they get two or three? And he was 653 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 4: also he was no, he was also a fourth time 654 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 4: they went to one. Young is already at that point, 655 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 4: maybe I wanted them to win more. I really liked 656 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 4: that team. 657 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: They were fun to. 658 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 5: It was Allawn Prince Sayshawn Prince, Chauncey Billups, Chauncey point 659 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 5: Rip Hamilton. Yeah, the Wallace boys, Darko, I have all 660 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 5: their there. 661 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: I have game warn sneakers from all of them, Darko Milicic. 662 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: I believe he was. 663 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: Jonas would I think he? I think he drove Brady 664 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: to the studio this morning from the State. 665 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 3: That's for debate. I just I've never seen a Russian 666 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 3: Russian license plate in UH. 667 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: In America, the States. I mean, how does that clearly 668 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: mentioned if I been kidnapped? Where are we going here? 669 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 5: WHOA, that's that diplomat, that's that diplomat status? You got 670 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 5: that that PJ. 671 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: He might have been. I surely wasn't. 672 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: You know that. 673 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: What's funny about the going back to that Pistons team. 674 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: The only reason they took Darko in the draft, Oh God, 675 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: is there we go now? Is because Carmelo Anthony was 676 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: there and they felt like they already had somebody playing 677 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: the same position, and it was I think it was 678 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: Tayshawn Prince was the guy was already there in Detroit, 679 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: and they felt like, well, we'll draft by need and 680 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 2: not my best, but not by best available, and so 681 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,479 Speaker 2: they took Darko, who never really mapped out or panned out, 682 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 2: but it was that Ultimately Detroit won the title and 683 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: Carmelo didn't. 684 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: Ever win one. 685 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah he's a Hall of Famer, Oh yeah, one hundred 686 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: percent he should be. 687 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 5: But if they would have drafted Tree Young, I don't. 688 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 5: I don't think he's a Hall of Famer today. I 689 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 5: don't think he's a Hall of Famer for four time. 690 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 5: I think you will be by the end of his career. 691 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I think. 692 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 4: Its overcome that at the Wizards, especially, you're getting objected 693 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 4: from games you're. 694 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: Not playing in. 695 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 5: Maybe I'm I mean, maybe I'm not trying to be 696 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 5: a hater. 697 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: But maybe I am. 698 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 5: I mean, maybe I need to acknowledge the fact that 699 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 5: I have I don't have any reason to hate him. 700 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 5: I don't think that there's no he's never been the 701 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 5: guy in the league. He's never been the guy like 702 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 5: when you talk about all of the guy like. 703 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 4: I mean for Atlanta, he was the time for Atlanta. Well, yeah, 704 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 4: trying to be a guy for a team. 705 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that doesn't make you. 706 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 4: By by the way, that's not the bar for for 707 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer in in the NBA. Just to 708 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 4: be clear, like that's not the bar if that's what 709 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 4: you're thinking, this is it ain't that in the NBA. 710 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 711 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: If Deon's not happy with the Hall of Fame credentials 712 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 2: that are currently in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, 713 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: go look at the NBA. 714 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 5: You've never said when you talk about the upper echelonce 715 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 5: of players in the league, his name is not a 716 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 5: name that pops like, it's not coming up. 717 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 4: He's he was. I mean, you can't be an All 718 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 4: star that Look, I'll say this, that is one league 719 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 4: where when you were an All Star, you were an 720 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 4: All Star like does not, that does not. There are 721 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 4: a lot of all Stars that are not in the 722 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame a lot, a lot. 723 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: So if he gets to like eight or nine all Stars, 724 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 2: well that's a little different. That's a little four now. Yeah, 725 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: that's four is and that's not enough. That's what Ben 726 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: Wallace had. Yeah, but he has ring. He has a ring, 727 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: a ring. He has a ring, a ring that still matters. 728 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm just saying you're making a case for 729 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: force not enough. You've just made a case for guys 730 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: in with four that's different. There, there is different. He's different, man, 731 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: He's twenty different. 732 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: It's different, twenty five people differently, he's twenty five and 733 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: ten for his career. 734 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't see him as a Hall of Famer, 735 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 5: and y'all could be disappointed when he doesn't get that call. 736 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: Not today. He's not a Hall of Famer today for four. 737 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 4: Four all star appills putting a jacket on him right now, 738 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 4: the Hall of Famer when it's all said and done. 739 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I guess we just see the world differently, 740 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 5: which is fine, and we're seeing it super classes have 741 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 5: full you know, I guess, man, my glass is full. 742 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 5: I don't need it to be half full, half empty. 743 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 5: It's my glass is overflowing. But I just like to 744 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 5: feel like I live in reality. That's all. Well, I 745 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 5: don't know where y'all live. 746 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: Well, we're going to live in another edition of In 747 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: Case You Missed It next here on FSR. 748 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 8: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 749 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 8: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 750 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 8: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific 751 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 8: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 752 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 2: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio, 753 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 2: LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. 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Good thing the guys are here to 768 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 8: bring you in case you missed it. 769 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: And we have an update. 770 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 2: And the story of Magic City Night, which we talked 771 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 2: about on this show last week, where the Atlanta Hawks 772 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 2: come on. We're hosting Magic City Night. 773 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: What is it? 774 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: The Atlanta Hawks are having lemon pepper wings, They're having 775 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 2: all the goods that come along with magic, seedy. I 776 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 2: don't know about the women, but the Orlando Magic are 777 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 2: going to be in town. And so because of that, 778 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 2: the Hawks realize, you know, why don't we take advantage 779 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: of this and really showcase one of our fine establishments. 780 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: And apparently with TI set to perform. 781 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 2: There, I believe, and I've been told again according to reports, 782 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 2: is this TI you're currently listening to. If you're on 783 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 2: the podcast, you know I missing much. But Luke Cornett 784 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 2: of the San Antonio Spurs wrote on his Medium account quote, 785 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 2: the NBA should desire to protect and esteem women, many 786 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: of whom work diligently every day to make this the 787 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 2: best basketball league in the world. We should promote an 788 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: atmosphere that is protective and respectful of the daughters, wives, sisters, mothers, 789 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 2: and partners that we know and love. 790 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: Allowing this night. 791 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 2: To go forward without protest would reflect poorly on us 792 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 2: as an NBA community, specifically in being complicit and the 793 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 2: potential objectification and mistreatment of women in our society. 794 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 5: He's clearly never been to a strip club or sees 795 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 5: the lifestyle of a stripper. 796 00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I got news for you. 797 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 5: He's very judgmental and off base. I mean, because all 798 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 5: of them, you're all for this. Well, no, I'm not 799 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 5: saying I'm not one way or the other on it. 800 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, don't act like strippers are different than anything. 801 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 5: He just explained. In fact, they're exactly what it is. 802 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 5: What was the words that were used in his letter? 803 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 5: Think about it? Read it again, the mother's what what 804 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 5: was it? A mother's daughters? Wives? 805 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: You know, are they're not mother daughters wives on the 806 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 2: bull And by the way, you know, it's not like 807 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 2: you know, people are being held against their will. 808 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: You know, an exotic dancer is the term I prefer man. 809 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 3: An adult dancer. I mean can't you just say that? 810 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 3: Or maybe a private dancer strippers money. 811 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you acting like these people are like aliens, 812 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 2: like you're bringing in lepers or something like that. 813 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: Was a private dancer. 814 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 3: He's dancers of money. 815 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 2: These castes like these Catch is making seven eight figure 816 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: percent in the game. 817 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: Cat, what you're talking is a private dancer. 818 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 2: They're diversifying their portfolios, owning, owning properties, flying on pj's. 819 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: And it's also Magic City. 820 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,760 Speaker 2: I mean it's you know, like the it's like comparing 821 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 2: the NFL to you know, some semi pro league in Indonesia. 822 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: Come on, man, what hey man, it's a different They 823 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: show them some love the NFL BA