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Speaker 1: It's now officially open.

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Speaker 2: This is Draft Season presented by Moody's, a proud sponsored

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Speaker 2: to the New York Football Giants. I am John Schmelt,

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Speaker 2: coming to you from the Giants podcast studio, present about Hackensack,

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Speaker 2: maurtin health keep getting better. As always, my co host

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Speaker 2: on this journey through Draft Season is Tony paul Leine

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Speaker 2: from Essentially Sports. Tony, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: Not a whole lot. I mean, first weekend in a

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Speaker 3: long while without football. Fortunately we had the Olympics to

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Speaker 3: hold this over. I know that you were glued to

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Speaker 3: your television in the Olympics all weekend, but uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: a slight lull and before you know it, we'll both

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Speaker 3: be in Indianapolis for the NFL Combine.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed the Mono Bob last night. I watched a

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Speaker 1: little Mono Bob. We had a little pairs figure skating.

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Speaker 1: Uh some Uh. The the speed of the downhill skiing

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Speaker 1: is unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: How fast these guys and girls are going down the

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Speaker 2: down the ski slope.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's been fun. It's been fun. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The ski jumping is incredible. I mean they there seventy

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Speaker 3: miles an hour. You know, in mid air we talk

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Speaker 3: about girls. Tonight is the starts the women's figure skating,

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Speaker 3: and I got to tell you this. You know, we

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Speaker 3: can talk about Olympic experience and things like that. I've been,

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Speaker 3: I've seen. I've been up to a lot of sporting

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Speaker 3: events in person. Indianapolis, five hundred Kentucky Derby, seventh game

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Speaker 3: of the World Series NC to a final four. The

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Speaker 3: most exciting twenty minutes in sports I've ever attended was

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Speaker 3: the two thousand and two women's final in figure skating.

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Speaker 3: Sary Hughes skated, She was incredible. Michelle Kwant skated, everybody

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Speaker 3: wanted to win. She slipped. Then the Russian girl skated.

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Speaker 3: Didn't know what was gonna happen. Of course, came up

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Speaker 3: Sary Hughes from Long Island, New York. You know, a

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Speaker 3: couple six months after nine to eleven won the gold medal.

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Speaker 3: It was absolutely incredible to be in the arena that night.

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Speaker 1: You are so.

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Speaker 2: Eclectic, Tody, I love it. It's great, It's just fantastic.

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Speaker 2: All right, So today, folks, what we're gonna do next week?

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Speaker 2: We'll save our combine preview for Monday, Tony, I will

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Speaker 2: at the end of this week. I'll be traveling to

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Speaker 2: the Combine on Monday, and Tony will be coming in

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday. We'll talk out there, then we'll do a

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Speaker 2: Combine Show review at the end of on the Monday

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Speaker 2: following and when we get all of the on the

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Speaker 2: field work done and complete. So we're not gonna do

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Speaker 2: a lot of combined talk today, but we are gonna

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Speaker 2: do our pre Combine mock draft. You've tried to do

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Speaker 2: like one mock draft a month. We don't want to

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Speaker 2: overload you with it. But I think as we've learned

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Speaker 2: more as to what this class looks like, who's coming out,

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Speaker 2: who's not, it always makes sense to kind of do

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Speaker 2: we are. We're gonna do this one together, so we're

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Speaker 2: not gonna do separate ones and kind of tag teams.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go every other pick. Tony, you gave me

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Speaker 2: the odd numbers. You took the odd numbers this time,

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Speaker 2: which is great. That means I have a really easy

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Speaker 2: think about this one. So I'm gonna go Fernando Mendoza

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Speaker 2: for the Las Vegas Raiders. I think they've really made

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Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza, which I think is a pretty easy selection.

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Speaker 3: Makes sense. I think that's part of the package that

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Speaker 3: got Clink Qbiac there as their head coach. He's going

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Speaker 3: You know, I've seen a lot of places having to

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Speaker 3: Caleb Downs has consistently talked about it as one of

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Speaker 3: the top two players in this draft. The Jets secondary

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Speaker 2: Well, Tony, look, and I think both of us are

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Speaker 2: leaning here more towards pick the best player because the

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Speaker 2: needs are going to change between now and the draft

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Speaker 1: So we're both focusing on what players are the best.

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Speaker 2: And tell me, look, I'm gonna say with some level

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Speaker 2: tell me John, pick the player that you think is

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Speaker 2: going to be the best football player the quickest in

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Speaker 2: this draft, I'm gonna pick Caleb Downs.

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Speaker 1: I think he's ready made. You plug him in.

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Speaker 2: He can do a lot of different things, and I

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Speaker 3: And I think he's gonna be a much earlier pick

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Speaker 3: than people are suggesting at present day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you could very will be right. And

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Speaker 1: now you just made me mad because I wanted that

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Speaker 1: to be the Giants pick at number five. But that's okay.

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Speaker 2: You did make it very easy for me at number six, though,

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Speaker 2: because the Cardinals need a lot of help on defense, Tony,

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Speaker 2: and rvel Reese is sitting there staring me in the face.

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Speaker 1: He's the number two player on my board.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go rvl Recier to the Cardinals who

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Speaker 2: But I think you put him in the middle of

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Speaker 3: Amazing. They still need help on defense. You look at

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Speaker 3: to change. Tennessee Titans, Robert sala is there, listen. In

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Speaker 3: my opinion, David Bailey is the best pass rusher in

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Speaker 3: David Baily is Will McDonald times ten as far as

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Speaker 3: I'm concerned. When you watch the film, he's absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 3: my opinion, as I've said, this is a no brainer.

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Speaker 3: If David Baily is there and the Titans, with Sala,

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Speaker 2: I think this is an easy pick Baily and I

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Speaker 2: have not put Mendoza's in my first round, but I

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Speaker 2: don't have like a grade on him yet and Ballly

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Speaker 2: this is a very good pick here for the Titans.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a fairly easy one. And this makes

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Speaker 2: things more difficult for me for the New York Football Giants, Tony,

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Speaker 2: because the two of the guys that I would have

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Speaker 2: Tyron Tracy. So while needs isn't a focus, yere I

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Speaker 2: do know the Giants will be very surprised that they

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: You know, Carnel Tate.

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Speaker 2: So I think there are a lot of different ways

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a little bit different here, Tony, and

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Speaker 3: Ruben Ban would absolutely not come in the conversation.

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Speaker 1: He's there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm bringing up my board now. Well, Bain

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Speaker 2: at number five. We don't know about Wondoll Robinson a

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Speaker 2: Darius Layne's coming back he's a veteran. I think Carnell

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Speaker 2: Tate gives you that safe pick. Ohio State's really good

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Speaker 2: He's got great body control, he's a good route runner.

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Speaker 2: He's got great hands, he can get down the field.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going Carnel Tate.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't have Carnel Tate rated that high,

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Speaker 3: and I don't like any of the receivers in this

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Speaker 3: conversation in the Giants war room. Where would you go.

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Speaker 1: Here, Tony? If you were the Giants at five, I would.

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Speaker 3: Definitely consider Jeremiah Love. Obviously we're not doing trades. Could

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Speaker 3: you trade down for a team that wants to Jeremiah

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Speaker 3: Love or Ruben Bain? I have both offensive tackles rated

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Speaker 3: higher than either Carnell Tate or Monsieur de Layne. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I would probably go if but I also have Sonny

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, No, I think that makes sense. The Browns

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Speaker 2: up this team from scratch. Spare Miles Garrett and and

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Speaker 2: I think this is a smart pick.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a safe pick, Tony. That's why I

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Speaker 2: And now we got to the Washington Commanders at number seven,

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Speaker 3: Makes complete sense. You take the pressure of for Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Tony, if I was taking kneed

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Speaker 2: I would have given them ruben Bain here, no question

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Speaker 3: the Saints are always either it offensive lineman or defensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: We saw an offensive lineman last year. We've seen a

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Speaker 3: they need an edge rusher for man front. I think

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Speaker 3: he's a good fit for that system. Very explosive. We'll

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Speaker 3: Bain's with the measurements at the combine. People talk about

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Speaker 3: his short arms. I'm not that concerned about it. We'll

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Speaker 3: A lot of abilities. Just got to turn that ability

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Speaker 2: on with you, Tony. And then to the Chiefs, you

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Speaker 2: mentioned it earlier, and I don't disagree with you. They

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Speaker 2: need a weapon on offense here. It's funny though, I

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Speaker 2: I said, Matt, you know, just off the record, I

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Speaker 2: an hour. What do you think the Chiefs are gonna

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Speaker 2: probably too small. It's not what they want. They want

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Speaker 2: a big pass rusher. So I was sitting here hoping

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Speaker 2: that would have been absolutely perfect for four for what

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Speaker 1: If Baine's there, I think it's the pick.

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Speaker 3: does that. The Cincinnati Bengals are up next because they're

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman? Yes, I don't know that. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I think this is where Tony you

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the Mammi Dolphins a number

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Speaker 2: eleven here, Tony. Look, I think when you look at

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Speaker 1: Here now you knows, still be on the board at eleven.

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Speaker 3: Hometown guy, And the problem with the Dolphins offensive line

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Speaker 1: Cowboys, it's a tough one. Now you got two good

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do, but I do it in Mansword Delane

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Speaker 3: They've had a lot of success developing these types of guys.

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Speaker 3: the upside, and the fact that you know he's shown

432
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Speaker 3: himself to be a real good player. I'm gonna go

433
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Speaker 3: with Peter Woods for the Baltimore Ravens.

434
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Speaker 1: It's a good pick.

435
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Speaker 2: And we don't know about Mattabik's health right He had

436
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 2: a neck injury last year and they're trying to figure

437
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:53,920
Speaker 2: out whether or not he's going to be healthy a

438
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 2: defensive tackle. So he had a couple of cryptic tweets

439
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 2: and Instagram posts last week that seemed to indicate he

440
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 2: might be coming back.

441
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Speaker 1: But you're right, they.

442
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,399
Speaker 2: Could certainly use some help of defensive tackle there. Tammy

443
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Speaker 2: Buccaneers are interesting Tony because you know they have a

444
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 2: ton of wide receivers.

445
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Speaker 1: I think they're good at running back.

446
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 2: I think they could use some help on the pass rush,

447
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 2: to be totally honest with you, and I look at

448
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 2: the guys that are left on the board here in

449
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 2: terms of pass rushers, and I think now we're getting

450
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,479
Speaker 2: into Keldrick falk range. So I'm not sure he's quite

451
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 2: the type they usually put out there on the edge,

452
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 2: but he's big. You can even put him at that

453
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 2: five technique if you want, with that odd man front.

454
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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give them kelderk Falk out of Auburn

455
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Speaker 2: to the Bucks at fifteen.

456
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 3: Listen at Keldrick fawk the tape in twenty twenty five

457
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 3: was uninspired. I mean, he was every spoty when he

458
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 3: made plays. He was dynamic, but he is an athletic guy,

459
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Speaker 3: which tremendous upside. Obviously, something was going on in that

460
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 3: Auburn program. De fired the coach. The guys did not

461
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 3: play up to the level of ability. But if you

462
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Speaker 3: light a fire under him and Todd Bowles is able

463
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Speaker 3: to get the max from out of him, this would

464
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Speaker 3: be a home run pick. As far as I'm concerned.

465
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Speaker 3: New York Jets are on the board. Would like to

466
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Speaker 3: get a receiver, but both the Tate and Tyson or

467
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Speaker 3: off the board. I don't know that I can take

468
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Speaker 3: Mackay Lemon here. I don't know that this is gonna

469
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Speaker 3: be a surprise pick com Draft Day. I'm gonna go

470
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Speaker 3: with c J. Allen. I'm gonna stay stay on defense,

471
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Speaker 3: and I stay in a defensive back seven.

472
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Speaker 1: C J.

473
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Speaker 3: Allen, I've talked to people in the league for the

474
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Speaker 3: past couple of months. They say he's an underrated guy.

475
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 3: He's being underrated in the draft witter World. He's got

476
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Speaker 3: great range. He's a tremendous off ball linebacker. You watch

477
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 3: the film. He's strong at the point, he can cover

478
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 3: great sidelines to silent. I think CJ. Allen is gonna

479
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 3: go much earlier than people expect, and the Jets need

480
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Speaker 3: a linebacker. You know, he's Avro reach is obviously gonna

481
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Speaker 3: be in consideration with that second pick. I think a

482
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Speaker 3: combination of Kale down to c J. Allen it would

483
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Speaker 3: be dynamite for the Jets defense.

484
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the lines. At seventeen. We're

485
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Speaker 2: halfway through our mock draft. Let me just summarize what

486
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 2: we've done so far. Here Tony for the fans so

487
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: they know who's left and who's not. Raiders had one

488
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Speaker 2: for Nano Mendoza, Jets A to Caleb Downs, Cardinals at three,

489
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Speaker 2: RVL Reese, Titans at four, David Balley Giants at five,

490
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Speaker 2: Carnell Tate, Browns at six, Spencer Fano seven, Washington Commander

491
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Speaker 2: Is Jeremiah Love eight, Saints, Ruben Bain nine, Chiefs, Jordan

492
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Speaker 2: Tyson ten, Bengals, TJ. Parker eleven, Dolphins, Francis Nowoa twelve, Cowboys,

493
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Speaker 2: Sonny Styles thirteen Rams, Van Sword Dealine fourteen Ravens, Peter

494
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Speaker 2: Woods fifteen Bucks, Keldric Fauk sixteen Jets CJ.

495
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Speaker 1: Allen. Now I'm up for the seventeen and the Detroit Lions.

496
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Speaker 2: I really want to give him big Iowana here Tony

497
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: because I think he's my next best offensive lineman on

498
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Speaker 2: the board.

499
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Speaker 1: But here's the problem. I don't think the Lions just

500
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 1: need to straight up guard, right.

501
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Speaker 2: I think they need someone that maybe has some swing

502
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: potential to tackle. With Taylor Decker getting on the wrong

503
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 2: side of thirty and getting a little bit older, so

504
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 2: and I think we did this on the last mock

505
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: draft that we did. I can't help but give them

506
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 2: Caden Procter. I just think everything that he is, he

507
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 2: can maybe he can stick out of tackle. We'll see

508
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 2: if they have to move him in the guard, fine,

509
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,239
Speaker 2: but I think they want to draft somebody that has

510
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: a chance to stay out there at offensive tackle. And

511
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Speaker 2: I just think Dan Campbell will salivate having that freakish

512
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: monster out there with all that size and athleticism to tackle.

513
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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna stick with Caden Proctor. You're at seventeen

514
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Speaker 2: to Detroit.

515
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Speaker 3: And remember, if Taylor Decker retires Penny Sewell, they could

516
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Speaker 3: swing him to left tackle because he was an outstanding

517
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: left tackle at Oregon, which means you got options with

518
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Speaker 3: the Caden Proctor putting him on the right tackle or

519
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: maybe inside the guard. You know, I completely agree with that.

520
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 3: That pick makes a lot of sense to me. The

521
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings. Everything I've heard about the Vikings is everybody

522
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 3: says cornerback, but they would also like another edge rusher

523
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: because Brian Flores is the defensive coordinator there and he

524
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Speaker 3: wants to have a say and he believes more and

525
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: more pass rushers will actually help ease the situation a cornerback.

526
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Speaker 3: That being said, the next top cornerback, the next top

527
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Speaker 3: edge dresser on my board is Cashius Howell of Texas

528
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 3: A and M and I have two cornerbacks that are

529
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 3: rated higher than Cashius Howell, one of them being Jermad

530
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Speaker 3: McCoy of Tennessee, who didn't play a snap last season

531
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Speaker 3: because of an injury in January of twenty twenty five.

532
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: But when you watch the twenty twenty four film, he

533
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: was a knockout player. It's going to be interesting to

534
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 3: see what McCoy does before the draft, if he does

535
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: anything at the Combine or at the Tennessee Pro Day. Listen,

536
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 3: if McCoy was healthy and he played the way he

537
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 3: was expected to play, he's probably a top ten pack.

538
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Speaker 3: I mean, we're probably talking not only him as first

539
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 3: cornerback off the board, but one of those teams that

540
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: need a cornerback in the top ten taking McCoy. So,

541
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Speaker 3: I think right now, the way I have it as

542
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Speaker 3: far as this mock draft, I'm going to give the

543
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Speaker 3: vikings Jermad McCoy.

544
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Speaker 1: No. I think that makes a lot of sense.

545
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Speaker 2: I think that's a good value there for where you

546
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 2: would pick them, and I'm with you. I think I

547
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: probably have him ahead of whatever edge rushers I have

548
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: left as I take a look at my board.

549
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, I think I would so.

550
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: I think I think that makes a lot of sense

551
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: here in terms of who the next guy would be

552
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: off the board.

553
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: All right, Tony, let's go now to.

554
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers, and look, they need a pass rusher

555
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 2: in the worst way. Their defense just was not able

556
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: to generate pressure. But I don't know if I love

557
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 2: any of the guys here. I don't know if any

558
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: of the guys that I have left. You know, my

559
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: order is a little bit different than yours. I'm actually

560
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: a big Romelo height fan. I think this is, you know,

561
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: the thing is a little early for him though. I

562
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: think he's a little probably a little bit later in

563
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: round one. But they could use an offensive weapon, and

564
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 2: I think a guy that would go well with Ted

565
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 2: McMillan on offense or Tea Roll mcloon. It doesn't like

566
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: Ted with teda rolland McMillan on offense would actually be

567
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: McKayle Lemon.

568
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Speaker 1: Right.

569
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: He's a run after the catch guy. He's a guy

570
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 2: you could play inside the slot. While McMillan's obviously more

571
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: of an outside receiver. So I'm gonna go mkayle Lemon

572
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: here to the Carolina Panthers that pick number nineteen.

573
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 3: Great route runner, and when you watch the film, I

574
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 3: love his aggressiveness. I mean, he wants the football, he

575
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: goes after it.

576
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: He can great run after catch too, fantastic.

577
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Speaker 3: As far as I'm concerned. You know, he was my

578
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 3: number two player that's remaining on the board. Dallas Cowboys.

579
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 3: We took Sonny Styles early on. They lost out on

580
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: Mansur Delaine.

581
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: And Ramond McCoy and Dremad mccuie.

582
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 3: Right exactly, I'm gonna stay with defense, and I'm gonna

583
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: give him. Avion Terrell a little bit shorter, but he's feisty,

584
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: He's got terrific ball skills. He's been a good player

585
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: for two years. I thought he played. He's one of

586
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: the few Clemson players that actually played a little bit

587
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 3: better in twenty twenty five than he did in twenty

588
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 3: twenty four. Also fills a need because that Dallas defensive

589
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 3: back seven is the mess. We get Styles with the

590
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 3: first pick, we get Terrell on the second pick, they

591
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 3: should be on their.

592
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Speaker 1: Way and boy, the Steelers.

593
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Speaker 2: I think really would have liked to have Mackay Lemon here,

594
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 2: but I picked him two picks ago, right, But he's

595
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 2: not down the board anymore.

596
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: Now.

597
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: I have Denzel Boston high enough Tony where I would

598
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: feel okay picking him here. I think the question for

599
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: the Steelers is to whether or not that is a

600
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: good fit with DK Metcalf and those two guys co exist,

601
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: and I think they can. I think Metcal's more of

602
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: a straight ahead speed deep guy. Boston I think is

603
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: a little bit shifty or a little bit of a

604
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: better rat runner, and he can run kind of those

605
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: crossers inside. So I'm gonna go Denzel Boston to the

606
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: Steelers here at number twenty one.

607
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 3: How much higher do you have Denzel Boston than Chris Brazzle?

608
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: Good question. Let me take a look at my board here. No,

609
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: that's okay, I know you're fine. I just gotta toggle

610
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: toggle tabs here. I have them almost touching.

611
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: They're very very closet.

612
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 2: But I think Brazel is probably more redundant to Metcalf

613
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: than Boston is.

614
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: I think Boston's a better filled with Metcalf than Brazel is.

615
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean more of a down the field, the

616
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 3: guy who's really needs to work on his route running. Yep,

617
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: we go to the LA Chargers. They may have some

618
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: needs at offensive line, depending on what happens in the

619
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: off season. They have some needs on the defensive line,

620
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: especially on the inside. And it's either going to be

621
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: the Penn State interior lineman depending on what happens in

622
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 3: the off season. But since we don't know that yet,

623
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the top player remaining on my board.

624
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give him Kaden McDonald of Ohio State, a quick,

625
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 3: explosive playmaker. I think he pairs in nicely in that

626
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: three man front that they like to run with the

627
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: linebacker standing over tackle. I think he's the guy who

628
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: played exceptionally well in two twenty twenty five when he

629
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: got on the field consistently as a starter. I like

630
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: his upside. And again, you know we're talking about Jim Harbor,

631
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: who likes those big, athletic defensive linemen going back to

632
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: his days at Michigan. I think it fits a need

633
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: with a good player, and I think the coach will

634
00:28:59,440 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: like him.

635
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636
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637
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638
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: the Eagles like to just sit there and wait for

639
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: the best player to drop to him, and then they

640
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 2: pick him.

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Speaker 1: Right, So I gotta go vig Iojuana.

642
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: He's by far the I think he's the last guy

643
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: with the first round great I have left on my board,

644
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: So I think this is an easy pick for the Eagles.

645
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: There's some whispers that they might not bring back Landon

646
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: Dickerson Tony because of the injury stuff, and you know

647
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: whether or not he's even gonna want to keep playing.

648
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: He might retire. We know, we don't know if Lean

649
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 2: Johnson's gonna want to keep playing. They lost Jeff Staltlin,

650
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: their offensive line coach, so that offensive line is a

651
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: bit of a mess right now, which the Eagles never

652
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: like to have. So I'm gonna go vig Iojuana here

653
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: to the Eagles at twenty three.

654
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns. We gave him an offensive tackle at the top.

655
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: We're gonna stay on the offensive side of the board.

656
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: They need a bigger receiver, playmaker receiver. Gonna give him

657
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: Chris razzle here, I mean continually fill out that offensive

658
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: side of the ball. The defense is fine, may need

659
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: some help help in the secondary. Brazsel is just a big,

660
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: good looking, game controlling receiver with playmaking ability. Love the

661
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: way he gets up and attacks the ball, makes a

662
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: lot of tough catches downfield, athletic agile contorts to the

663
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: air and throw money which were coming from the hands

664
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: of Joey Aguilar Tennessee last year obviously, and he was

665
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: He's not a one year wonder because he was. He

666
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: was outstanding twenty twenty five, he was good in twenty

667
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: twenty four, he was really good in twenty twenty three

668
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: when he played for TWU Lane. So it's not just

669
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: you know, it's not like he was a one and

670
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: done on the college level. Needs to polish his game.

671
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: I'm told that he is going to test through the

672
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: roof at the combine, so keep that in the back

673
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: of your mind. I'm talking about really fast times in

674
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: the forty jumping through the roof on the vertical, and

675
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: he's got a great amount of upside. You just have

676
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: to coach him. You have to teach him the entire position.

677
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna give the Browns Chris Brassel here.

678
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, I think he and watching on tape Tony.

679
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: That would not surprise me. If he does test as

680
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: well as you think he's gonna test, that would not

681
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: shock me at all. All right, Bears at twenty five, Tony,

682
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: if you watch him in the playoffs, you saw that man,

683
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: they just cannot rush the passer and they need a

684
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: guy that impact on that side of the ball. And

685
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: you know what, I think they're gonna pick the guy

686
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: that they believe is the best pass rusher right now,

687
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: even though he's a little bit older. So I'm gonna

688
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: give him a Kim Mezzador, the edge rusher out of

689
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: Miami who I think has shown a lot of really

690
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: good pass rush ability. He's a little older, but I

691
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: think I think he's the guy that's gonna be able

692
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: to step in and help you right away. So I'm

693
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: getting to m Keem Mezzador out of Miami to the

694
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: Bears at twenty five.

695
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. I mean, you know, the Bills offense has

696
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: not been the same since they parted ways with Stefon Diggs.

697
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: You don't know what's gonna happen with Keyon Coleman. I

698
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: think that they really need that guy to take the

699
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 3: top off the defense. I may be alone in this,

700
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: but I like Casey Concepcion. He's a big play receiver

701
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 3: who's terrific running after the catch. He brings return potential,

702
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: returning punching kicks, which we see is more and more

703
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: apparent and more necessary in the league these days. So

704
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: I think he checks off a lot of boxes. And

705
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: I think his ability to basically stretch that defense, stretch

706
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: the stretch opposing defenses, and get the ball downfield will

707
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: really help the Bills offense, which has been missing. Like

708
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: I said, since they part of weighs with Stefan Diggs.

709
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: Now I think that's a good pick. Put him with

710
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: Khalil Shakir over there. Maybe you get something out of

711
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman in the year three. We'll see how that goes,

712
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: all right. Niners are twenty seven, Tony, and again much

713
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: like the Bears. If you watch the Niners in the postseason,

714
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: what was the problem. They could not rush the passer

715
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: naved nick Bosa, who obviously hurt for most of the year.

716
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: But they need someone that can get after it with

717
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: nick Bosa, and I know They drafted the big Georgia

718
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: kid last year, Michael Williams. But I'm gonna get Cash's

719
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 2: Howell here at twenty seven. I think he's a good

720
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: pass rusher. He's two hundred and fifty pounds. He's got

721
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: some speed to bend the edge. So cashus Howell to

722
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: the Niners here at twenty seven the Texans.

723
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: I would have loved for the Penn State kid to

724
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: be on the board because that would have been my pick.

725
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 3: They need a running back, they need a defensive lineman.

726
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: I don't see any top defensive lineman available. I'm gonna

727
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: surprise some people here. I'm gonna take a guy that

728
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: if you watch this show, you know I like him

729
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 3: and he was great at the senior ball. We're getting

730
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: to the late part of round one where there's a

731
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: lot of surprises. I'm gonna have the Houston Texans take

732
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: Mike max I in a corps of Arizona State, an

733
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: athletic right tackle who can play multiple spots on the

734
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: offensive line. I think he's a little bit further along

735
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: than Caleb m Lemieux. I don't know that I'm taking

736
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: Lee Hunter here. There's no running back that's worth taking

737
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: I mean don't really with Kenyon Sadik be in the

738
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: conversation here with the Houston Texans, maybe I Dalton Schultz

739
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: and hatched over. They could go with ken but they

740
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: need a lot of help on the offensive line. So

741
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take in a corps who I mean started

742
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: playing football late? Has you know who was good in

743
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, was outstanding twenty twenty five, was great

744
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: in the senior ball, which tells me, if he's coached correctly,

745
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: he's gonna be a tremendous offensive lineman down the road.

746
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 3: I probably would have given more consideration kend but they

747
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: need a lot of offensive They need offensive line help

748
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: in Houston.

749
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: You know Tony, they have a lot of tight ends,

750
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: but the Rams have really leaned into playing two and

751
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: three tight ends a lot. And I know they have

752
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: to Ferguson last year out of Oregon, who's a really

753
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: good player. They have Parkinson who did a good job

754
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: for him. They've Higbee coming off the injury. But Kenyon

755
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: Sadik is has a I was wrong when I said

756
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: I I Iowana was the last first round great on

757
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: my board. I missed ken He's still sitting there I

758
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: have a first round great on him, and the Rams

759
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 2: love playing multiple tight ends.

760
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: Sean McVay is always looking for playmakers.

761
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 2: You know, Devonte Adams, how much longer he's gonna last

762
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: in two years from now? If it's Nakua and Sadik,

763
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty good.

764
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: So Los Angeles Rams are twenty nine. Ken, let's roll.

765
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: New England Patriots. You just broke their hearts because they

766
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: would have loved Sadik if he was available to them.

767
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: When you look at the age that they have, they

768
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: have a tight end.

769
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: Well, Tony, you got the Broncos at thirty.

770
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: Right. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm like, I'm way way past there.

771
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: Sorry, you got the the Broncos lost the Patriots of

772
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: the MC title games. You got the Broncos at thirty.

773
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 3: You know what it is is I'm looking at an

774
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: old order. So thank you for correcting me.

775
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: There, Yes, I got you, no problem.

776
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: Broncos need the receiver. Broncos. Let me just pull up

777
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 3: my linebacker. Let me just pull up my my k

778
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: neeeds for the Broncos here real quick.

779
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: You got it.

780
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: Needed Broncos who Broncos could use a number one receiver

781
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 3: Denzel Boston would be consideration there. Running back? Uh, No

782
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: running back worth taking tight end you just took. You

783
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 3: took Sadiq, So you brought my heart, aren't there? Tough

784
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 3: call for the Broncos. Really tough call for the Broncos

785
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: considering what's left on the board. I'm looking at this, Yeah,

786
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: I can't take uh boy, this this is where this

787
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: is where it gets tough. Huh.

788
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: I got an oof out of Tony I love it.

789
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 3: Go uh the Denver Broncos because all the best players

790
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 3: on my board are are defensive players. They obviously don't

791
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: need an edge rusher. Looking at this stave, I'm going

792
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: to have the John Franklin maren, I'm going to have

793
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: them take got some age, get linebacker green Law. You

794
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: don't know. I'm gonna surprise people. I'm gonna go with

795
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: Anthony Hill of Texas. I think he's a Sean Payton

796
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: type of defender, an off ball linebacker Drake Greenlaw. You

797
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: don't know what you get out of him. They've got

798
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 3: some age at the position. I would like to go offense,

799
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: but any offensive player would be a major reach. Considering

800
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 3: that Denzel Boston and some of the other guys are

801
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: off board can't take Chris Bell here, who would be

802
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: consideration if he hadn't got injured. So I'm gonna go

803
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: with Anthony Hill for the Denver Broncos.

804
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 2: Well, Tony here comes to reach for me, and it's

805
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: somebody that we talked a lot about on the show

806
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: and we both like him.

807
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go wide receiver to the Patriot. Think

808
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: of him. Omar Cooper out of Indiana, who you know.

809
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: They need someone to create space right and get open

810
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: and run good routes, and Cooper can do that. He

811
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: can play inside, he can play outside. He is eventual

812
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: replacement for Stefan Diggs. So I'm gonna go Omar Cooper

813
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 2: here to the Patriots at number thirty one.

814
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: Finally, the national the Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks. They

815
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: could be in the market for a running back, but

816
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: there's no running back that's really top notch still available.

817
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna surprise people here as the Seattle Hawks always doing. Now.

818
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: I asked you to watch this guy last week. I

819
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: don't know if you watched them. I don't know what

820
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 3: you think of him, but I absolutely love him. Thirty

821
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: second pick of round one. I'm gonna have the Seattle

822
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: Seahawks take Immanual Pregnant, the offensive lineman from the offensive

823
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: guard because they still need some help on the interior

824
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 3: the offensive line from Oregon.

825
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: He's I'm not watching yet.

826
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 3: He's a masher out that he's a molar, but he's

827
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: really good on his feet out to the second level

828
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: blocking emotion. And you know sometimes the Seahawks they go

829
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 3: in a different direction. I have him take Pregnant of

830
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: Oregon with the final pick around one.

831
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: Awesome. All right, Tony, that's our mark draft.

832
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: Give me a feel like when you look at this,

833
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: when does it start getting tough for you? When do

834
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: you start having questions? And what's your kind of feel

835
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: for this as we head into the combine?

836
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you look at it. The first thirteen

837
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: picks went as expected, except for the you know, the

838
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: Bengals with TJ. Parker, which I think starts to mix

839
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: things up at fourteen. I think when you get to

840
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 3: that that Pittsburgh charge, when you get to the Eagles

841
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: pick Eagles Cleveland, then things the things, things start to

842
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: get off track. I think the last five or six picks,

843
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: as they often are in the first round, it could

844
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: be curveballs. That a lot of people don't expect.

845
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: Now I'm with you, Tony, what do you have coming

846
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: up on a century sports people shoul keep their eye on.

847
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: Well, we just updated the Big Board and there's approximately

848
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty scouting reports on there, so ninety

849
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: the Big twelve scouting reports, ninety nine percent of the

850
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: ACC scouting reports, all of the non Power four Power

851
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: scouting reports, and the small school Power Report of scouting

852
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 3: reports are up there. So a lot of stuff there.

853
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 3: We're going to have to fill it in with some

854
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: of the surprise picks or the surprise invitations to the

855
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 3: combine that we'll be getting into later this week, and

856
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: then you know, once the combine kicks off, lots of

857
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 3: lots of news there.

858
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Tony, good stuff, my friend.

859
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,960
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860
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Speaker 2: by Hackensack and Marty Health. Keep getting better for Tony Pauline,

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Speaker 2: I'm John Schmulk. We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: Everybody,