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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Buck Brief. Frank Provone is

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<v Speaker 2>with us now. He is the national director of Priests

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<v Speaker 2>for Life. We got the March for Life coming up

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<v Speaker 2>on Friday of this week and much to discuss. Frank,

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<v Speaker 2>good to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Buck, good to be with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with actually, before anything else, March for Life.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're very involved. We want people to know

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<v Speaker 2>about it and want people to get involved too if

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<v Speaker 2>they can. Well, can you tell us about this year's

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<v Speaker 2>march and what it means.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be very significant. You know. These are the

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<v Speaker 1>two largest annual events in the pro life movement in America.

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<v Speaker 1>Happened in the next few days. The March for Life

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday, and then the Walk for Life West Coast,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the second largest event on Saturday in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be at both and one of the key themes

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to emphasize because we run the prayer

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<v Speaker 1>service on the morning of the March for Life, is

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<v Speaker 1>the cancel culture. As our listeners know, you know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got a weaponized government in America. Now we also have

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<v Speaker 1>a weaponized government in the church, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are aware. There was a bishop that was recently

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<v Speaker 1>removed from his position because it was a little too outspoken.

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<v Speaker 1>We're actually gonna honor him at the prayer service, Bishop

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph Strickland, and we're gonna have Mark Halk the one

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<v Speaker 1>of the people whose homes was raided by the FBI.

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<v Speaker 1>He's full pro life activist, and yet the Biden administration

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<v Speaker 1>came after him with federal charges. We're gonna pray that

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<v Speaker 1>morning of the march for Live with these people and

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<v Speaker 1>with pro lifers from across the country. And it's important

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<v Speaker 1>this year that the pro life movement focus on this

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<v Speaker 1>problem that we've got, because it ends up targeting all

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<v Speaker 1>of them, all of those faithful people that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be there, that have marched every year and are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to change things back home, you know, to protect

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<v Speaker 1>the unborn. They're all the target of this weaponized government.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's gonna be a key key theme of our

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<v Speaker 1>activities the next few days.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell me about this bishop you mentioned, a bishop

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<v Speaker 2>who you said, well, tell me the backstory. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even I don't know what's going on with this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people need so.

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph Strickland was bishop of the Diocese of Tyler, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>relatively small diocese, but he got a national following because

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<v Speaker 1>he was actually for example, he spoke out against Biden

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<v Speaker 1>and his pro abortion policies. He spoke out to the

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<v Speaker 1>other bishops says, hey, we got to be teaching the

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<v Speaker 1>faith in the arena of politics. We got to be

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<v Speaker 1>lifting up the unborn, no matter who wants to kill them.

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<v Speaker 1>And and you know, he was putting the other bishops

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<v Speaker 1>to shame, is what it boils down to. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't saying anything that he shouldn't have been saying,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of the other bishops wanted to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>tone him down, you know, bring him into line with

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<v Speaker 1>their own mediocrity, and he didn't go for that. So

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately they convinced Pope Francis to remove him from his

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<v Speaker 1>position in the diocese. This just happened a few months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And when they did that to him, similar to what

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<v Speaker 1>they did to me a year ago. Will you and

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<v Speaker 1>I have discussed it in past programs where they said

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<v Speaker 1>you can't function as a priest anymore really for the

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<v Speaker 1>same reasons. It's the it's the cancel culture in the church,

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<v Speaker 1>when people are saying things that they consider too uh,

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<v Speaker 1>too too political or too disruptive.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now this bishop he's speaking out anyway, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's still a bishop, he's still in good standing,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak. Uh, And he's going around speaking at

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<v Speaker 1>different events like the one we're going to have on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I have a hard time with this. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't sit here and pretend like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>super up on all things in the church, nor do

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<v Speaker 2>I pretend that I'm the best practicing Catholic. Just keep

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<v Speaker 2>that betraying me. I'm trying. I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 1>I slowly.

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<v Speaker 2>I got married in a church. You know, we we've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this, my wife. We want to raise our

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<v Speaker 2>future children Catholic, and we're we're inching back toward. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>this is me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was happy to meet her by the way we

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<v Speaker 1>were together at mar a Lago. Thank you for introducing me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, of course, no, she's she's wonderful, she's a

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<v Speaker 2>great lady. But yeah, it feels like this pope is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a communist who does the bidding of the left,

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<v Speaker 2>including on issues of life and LGBTQ rights. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just that's just how I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I'm going to tell you something here, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think probably many of our listeners will agree with this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm convinced there is a collaboration going on right now

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<v Speaker 1>between some of these operatives in the Vatican and the

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<v Speaker 1>operatives in the Biden administration. Really, I think, yes, I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I've come across a number of things in some of

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<v Speaker 1>my conversations and meetings and all the battles I've been

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<v Speaker 1>having with the Catholic hierarchy. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it is being a lot of the shots are being

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<v Speaker 1>called by the Democrat Party, the same people who are

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<v Speaker 1>weaponizing government in America against people like President Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>and and and those who support him. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the only thing that makes sense after a why

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<v Speaker 1>you see all this stuff happening, And it's like your

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<v Speaker 1>reaction was perfect just now because so many millions of

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<v Speaker 1>people feel in the same way, says Hey, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>make sense out of this. I mean, I know basically

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<v Speaker 1>what the Church stands for, and this seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>like just the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean in churches in New York City

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<v Speaker 2>that I've been to Catholic churches in New York City,

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<v Speaker 2>I can think of one in particular. You know, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>they'll have banners that are Black Lives Matter and with

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fish on them and things like this, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll have banners up in the church, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really big displays to that effect. And also they'll have

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<v Speaker 2>LGBTQ plus meetups for young people that the church is sponsoring.

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<v Speaker 2>That actually happened at my mom's church by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and and look like whether what you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people can we can talk about about all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's interesting that they will promote those things,

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<v Speaker 2>which is I understand it are contrary to church. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>well the BLM thing is a little more complicated, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the LGBTQ thing, like the transgender issues things

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<v Speaker 2>like that that I don't think it is sported about

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<v Speaker 2>the church. But they will not touch abortion from the pulpit.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a I do. I never hear them saying,

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<v Speaker 2>hey New Yorkers, stop supporting abortion. And this isn't a

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<v Speaker 2>Catholic church I'm talking about now, they won't.

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<v Speaker 1>They won't do it, and that goes directly to the

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<v Speaker 1>heart of my ministry and the conflicts I've had with

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<v Speaker 1>some of this the hierarchy, because that's exactly when you

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<v Speaker 1>think about priests for life. You know, people say to me, well,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't every priest for life? And I respond, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>priests basically are for life. We just helped them to

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<v Speaker 1>say so. And because that's what's lacking. It's the say so,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the priority. It's give a voice if you believe this,

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<v Speaker 1>and many of them don't want to do that because,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, some of it is that they're just cowards

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<v Speaker 1>or they don't know how to deal with opposition, but

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<v Speaker 1>some of it is they're being told not to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have memos that some of these bishops

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<v Speaker 1>have sent out to their priests actually saying, do not

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<v Speaker 1>preach about anything that's going to get the people angry

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<v Speaker 1>or divide them. And it's like I thought our marching

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<v Speaker 1>orders were to preach the word of the Lord, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you know, not oh,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get anybody angry. I mean, if Jesus had followed that,

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<v Speaker 1>he would have never gotten crucified.

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<v Speaker 2>It's remarkable to me because you know, I'll hear stories

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<v Speaker 2>about I just heard one recently where, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>woman in a Catholic church who's sort of a friend

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<v Speaker 2>of a friend who was divorced was denied communion by

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<v Speaker 2>her parish priest. Now, I understand what the rules are

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be, but I also feel like every time

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<v Speaker 2>anyone says, hey, should you know Nancy Pelosi and Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden be denied communion for being leaders who are avowedly,

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<v Speaker 2>avowedly pro abortion and and you know, or are doing

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<v Speaker 2>everything to kind of make abortion happen as much as

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<v Speaker 2>possible that somehow or we can't touch that, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>go right, you know, Well, one is a much bigger

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<v Speaker 2>deal than the other. I gotta you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>taking public funds to fund millions of abortions across the country,

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<v Speaker 2>it's much bigger deal to me. I'm not saying divorce

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<v Speaker 2>isn't serious and harm, but much bigger deal than someone

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<v Speaker 2>getting divorced, I would think. But the church comes down

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<v Speaker 2>on one but not the other. It just seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me like do we have rules or not?

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<v Speaker 1>It makes no sense. And you know, some people that

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<v Speaker 1>try to use the lame excuse that oh well, you know, God,

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<v Speaker 1>no acknowledges are our weakness, and you know, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>all imperfect. And you see the way that Biden, Pelosi

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<v Speaker 1>and the Democrats deal with abortion. This is not weakness.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not like we're trying to do the right

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<v Speaker 1>thing and we kind of stumble and fall like we

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<v Speaker 1>all do. They're running in the opposite direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're advocating for evil. They're advocating for that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's the log in the short of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's remarkably you know, what would happen when when you

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<v Speaker 2>were dealing with you with your stuff, Frank, if you

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<v Speaker 2>were like, okay, yeah, I'm also a human being. I'm imperfect.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Well, that's right. They still want it to

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<v Speaker 2>still wanted to punish you. Apparently that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow that argument didn't work with them. It's the hypocrisies.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm believing, you know what the good thing is if

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<v Speaker 1>buck people are waken up to this. The people tell

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<v Speaker 1>me all the time, they say, look, I see what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the church, I see what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the government. And it's like I'm going to keep

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<v Speaker 1>speaking the right thing. I'm gonna keep doing the right thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we're at a moment now and we

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<v Speaker 1>need it both in America and in the church, where

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<v Speaker 1>the people themselves wake up, they get wise to the

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<v Speaker 1>evil that's going on, and they say, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>this country is mine, this church is mine. I know

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<v Speaker 1>the faith, I know the constitution. I'm going to live accordingly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to defend those things no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>some misguided people in authority are going to try to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk and I'm glad how I can talk you

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<v Speaker 2>about any politics because you know you're you're a free man, right.

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<v Speaker 2>No one knows exactly there's no hook or crook that's

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<v Speaker 2>One challenge we have here for anyone who's advocating for

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<v Speaker 2>life now on the political scene is we keep being

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<v Speaker 2>told this, and even some right wingers are saying, This'll

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<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, people that are themselves pro life,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're trying to strategize. They say, we keep losing

0:11:15.417 --> 0:11:18.817
<v Speaker 2>ballot initiative in state after state. Roe is gone, but

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<v Speaker 2>now the people are voting for at least some level

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<v Speaker 2>of abortion. You can't argue just in favor of life.

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<v Speaker 2>And when what do you say.

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<v Speaker 1>To that we're not losing. These ballot initiatives are our lies.

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<v Speaker 1>The other side is just better at lying than we are.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you look at it, let me give you

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<v Speaker 1>an example. In Montana, they fail to pass this measure

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<v Speaker 1>that would protect babies after they survive in abortion. You say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my goodness, you know, are the people that turning

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<v Speaker 1>that pro abortion? And no, after that thing passed, Montana

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<v Speaker 1>legislature passed no less than ten measures limiting abortion. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that also reflects the will of the people. In Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to get one of these amendments going. But

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida, the last two legislative sessions, we've passed two

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<v Speaker 1>one stronger than the other, life measures to increase protection

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<v Speaker 1>for these babies. So it's like, you look at this, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>seven states, the ballot initiat has went the wrong way,

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<v Speaker 1>But but twice as many states now protect babies from conception.

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<v Speaker 1>So my argument is, and then you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>state courts. You know, when these pro life laws are

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<v Speaker 1>passed in these states, what are the state courts doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're upholding the laws. We've got victories in Indiana, in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>in South Carolina and North Carolina. So we look at

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<v Speaker 1>the whole picture and it's like, all right, what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on here. Here's the reality when the abortion issue is

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<v Speaker 1>dealt with through the legislative process and the court process.

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<v Speaker 1>Because now Dobbs is president, no longer row we win.

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<v Speaker 1>Why Because you have to wrestle with the issue. There's

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's hearings, there's evidence, there's arguments, there's counter arguments,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's there's lobbying, at least in the legislative arena.

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<v Speaker 1>And and and the more the American people wrestle with abortion,

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<v Speaker 1>the less they want it. Now. Granted most people don't

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<v Speaker 1>want an absolute prohibition on it, but overall Americans want

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<v Speaker 1>less abortion, not more. These ballot initiatives only passed because

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<v Speaker 1>it's what I call SoundBite voting. There's no debate, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no analysis of this. The voter goes in and they

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<v Speaker 1>saw one headline or they arned a sound bite. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like they don't understand the deep meaning of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, polling on this subsequent to the votes

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<v Speaker 1>is showing is showing this. In Michigan, now they had

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<v Speaker 1>their thing passed a year ago their ballot initiative, and

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<v Speaker 1>now people are starting to say, wait a minute, why

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<v Speaker 1>do we have these extreme policies with late term abortion

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<v Speaker 1>or keeping not, you know, keeping forcing us to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for it and whatnot. And even some of their Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>lawmakers are starting to say this goes too far. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think I don't think the other side is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to get away with this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing very many more times. We've got in Florida right now,

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<v Speaker 1>our Supreme Court is looking at throwing this thing off

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<v Speaker 1>the ballot all together because it's so vague. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that therefore, when we when we look at really

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<v Speaker 1>the whole picture, we're not we're not losing. The other

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<v Speaker 1>side just wants to spin that that notion, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and say, oh, abortion is a losing issue. My challenge

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<v Speaker 1>to the other side is very simple, describe what you defend,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think political candidates you need to use this.

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<v Speaker 1>Ulators need to use this in debates over abortion. The

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<v Speaker 1>last thing the other side wants to do is talk

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<v Speaker 1>about abortion. They want they want to make it look

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<v Speaker 1>like they bring it front and center. Oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a winning issue for us, but they never want to

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<v Speaker 1>actually talk about what it is because if they did,

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<v Speaker 1>we win.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that one of the the big tell

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<v Speaker 2>tales of this all along. And this is true in

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<v Speaker 2>a range of different political issues, but on abortion, it's

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<v Speaker 2>particularly obvious. Is there's all this language used to speak

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<v Speaker 2>around an issue, right, reproductive rights? Yeah, why not just

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<v Speaker 2>a abortion? Like if it's abortion, why not just abortion?

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<v Speaker 2>Why come up with all these euphemisms? A woman's right

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<v Speaker 2>to choose to choose what to choose, what she's not

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<v Speaker 2>choosing a flower bouquet? Like what are we talking about here?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's very instructive about this when in Kansas,

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<v Speaker 1>when they passed the law years ago stopping dismemberment abortion,

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<v Speaker 1>when the Democrat legislators in Kansas stood up to debate

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<v Speaker 1>against the bill, they didn't even say the name of

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<v Speaker 1>the bill because the name of the bill had the

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<v Speaker 1>word dismemberment in it, which accurately describes what an abortion is,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't even say the name of the bill

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<v Speaker 1>they were speaking up against. So it shows that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if we insist that that the other side describe what

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<v Speaker 1>they defend, we are on the right track to exposing

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<v Speaker 1>their extremism.

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<v Speaker 2>And just so I know, actually I'll ask you to

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<v Speaker 2>answer this one. This will be one of the last

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<v Speaker 2>things we can get to. But the first up, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I want I want to ask you about church doctor

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<v Speaker 2>on the issue of abortion. But hold on, hold on

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<v Speaker 2>for by Palm Beach Research Group. All right, Frank, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm missing something church doctrine on abortion is this is

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<v Speaker 2>a very bad thing that should be stopped. So why

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<v Speaker 2>isn't the Catholic Church more vocal about stopping it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that the doctrine itself is very very clear. The

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<v Speaker 1>unborn are to be treated as persons. It's a doctor

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<v Speaker 1>and actually that's based in science and just the clear

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that this is a baby. By the way, same

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<v Speaker 1>basis that we're against transgender and I think today we

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<v Speaker 1>can't say a man is a man or a woman

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<v Speaker 1>as a woman because for fifty years we've been saying

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<v Speaker 1>a baby is not a baby. Church doctrine is based

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<v Speaker 1>on just recognize the truth of God that's right in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you. Why are we not as vocal about

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<v Speaker 1>this as we should? Again, it's because of the politics too.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of these church leaders are a buddy buddy with

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrat, a party which has become an appendage of

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<v Speaker 1>the abortion industry unfortunately, and that's why they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to embarrass their friends. They don't want to get their

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<v Speaker 1>friends to turn against them, and we have got to

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the things I've been doing and my

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<v Speaker 1>ministry is doing, is to expose that that connection, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of goes back to what we were saying before

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<v Speaker 1>and and and because you've got a lot of clergy

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<v Speaker 1>out there, they're ready and willing to say more, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're being intimidated into silence. And that again is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a key theme of our march, our prayer

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<v Speaker 1>service Friday, and our march to say, everybody have courage,

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<v Speaker 1>open your mouths, speak from the pulpit and everywhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>Frank Pavone, Frank, where can people go to a help

0:18:18.737 --> 0:18:20.977
<v Speaker 2>priest for life and also to get involved that they

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<v Speaker 2>can in the March for Life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. The march activities is at prolifemarch dot org, prolifemarch

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<v Speaker 1>dot org. I'm on social media at fr Frank Pavone

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<v Speaker 1>on all the major platforms. Fr Frank Pavone. Hope everyone

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<v Speaker 1>connects with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Frank, appreciate you being in the fight, sir, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>being here. We'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Go always great to see you. God bless