1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and good evening. Mark Vandermyer with you on 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Texans All Access tonight as we are looking forward to 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: training camp. It's the eve of the Texans departing to 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: the Greenbrier for year number two there of training camp 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: in season seventeen of Houston Texans football and joining me 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: tonight Deep Situ. She'll start it off Jeff Van Gundy. 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna have highlights of his podcast that he did 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: with me last week, or we're gonna have some great 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: moments from that for you a little bit later on 10 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: in the show, Deep, how's it going tonight? Going great? Mark, 11 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I've been on with 12 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: you on Texas. Really it's been me and Johnny for 13 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, we've done podcasts and such from this studio, 14 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: so it's a it's a little different here we are 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: on the Hyunday Texans Radio studio. Soon we will not 16 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: be We will be in West Virginia in the mountains, 17 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: which is always weird for me because it reminds me 18 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: of central Pennsylvania where I started my radio career. It 19 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: does look a lot I remember driving through like the 20 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Turnpike and it looks a lot like the area. 21 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: It really does. I mean, it's that part of the 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: country in general anyway, right, and West Virginia's kind of 23 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: an interesting state because as you have part of it 24 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: that is so close to Pittsburgh, Morgantown. It's pretty close 25 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh. I mean when the hurricanes, when we were 26 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: going to Morgantown, we'd stay actually right outside of Pittsburgh 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: and make the drive in because you didn't want to 28 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: have anything to do with Morgantown. But that's still three 29 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: and a half hours in the Greenbrier, which is south 30 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: and about four hours from Charlotte. And I don't know 31 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: how they're no close cities. There's no good way to 32 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: get there. You know, my family's coming in. They're gonna 33 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: actually fly to Louisbourg, which is nearby. But it's not 34 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: like you can just go to Lewisburg direct flight from Houston. 35 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't happen that way. So how are they getting there? 36 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: If you go to Washington, DC, and you take a boat, 37 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: then you take a train, then you take a stagecoach, 38 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: you actually they actually have a puddle jop where that 39 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: goes from DC into Lewisburg, which is close to the 40 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: Greenbrier or Chicago, so that's how they work. Yeah, the 41 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Greenbrier started direct flights actually from Chicago and DC, which 42 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: is great if you live in those two areas, but 43 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: I think from Houston you could just connect there. But 44 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: I think you you flying to any state, you've got 45 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: to make that three four hour drive. Are you expecting 46 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: more fans than ever to show up? I mean than 47 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: ever then last year? Well maybe than ever because the 48 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: Saints were there for three years, but I bet we 49 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: topped them. In fact, I know we did because last 50 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: year the Greenbrier peeps, we're all saying, you guys put 51 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: on a show in terms of everything we did to 52 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: outfit the place and the Houston Methodist Practice fields and 53 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: Axfinity and Academy and all our camp coverage and camp 54 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: sponsors and it was all decked out. They were amazed 55 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: with how we decked the place out. It looked really good. 56 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: I do expect more fans this year, just because I 57 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: think people are now excited about Deshaun Watson. Yeah. Last 58 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: year he wasn't starting, so you had a few people 59 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: that were excited about more. We're excited about the veterans 60 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: that we have on our team. But I think that 61 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: factor we'll bring a lot more Clemson fans, a lot 62 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: more Texans fans on the East Coast that don't normally 63 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: get to come to games. And I still think we're 64 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: gonna have some fans that will travel from Houston. They 65 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: just will work their vacation plans around West Virginia because 66 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: I met a few people like that last year too. 67 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna highlight some of the things in 68 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: an article I wrote about more training camp to dos. 69 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: I got my to do list, and I think I 70 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: came away with six priorities between last week's piece and 71 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: this week piece. And in this week's piece, I reviewed 72 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: last week's piece in case I had a beeny miss class. 73 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: I really I allowed them to read the cliffs Notes. 74 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: Do those still exist? Or those? Do you even need them? Though? 75 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: Don't you just Wikipedia everything? I think my son, at 76 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: twelve years old, is starting to Wikipedia books that he 77 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: has to read. I gotta figure this out. Yeah, they do. Actually, 78 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: because I was looking up cliffs I was telling my 79 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: son about cliffs notes, and I said, did you do that? No, 80 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: because well they're not allowed to use them. But I 81 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: was like, I wonder if they're even around. So I 82 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: looked it up and I guess they're al They were 83 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: pretty good, as I recall. I mean, you could get 84 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: by with some unless you had teachers that would ask 85 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: questions that we're definitely not discussed in the cliffs notes man, 86 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: which I had along. I might never remember that part 87 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: of the book anyway, you know what I mean? How 88 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: much how much reading comprehension do you really want me 89 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: to have? So you did some cliffs notes for training camp? 90 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: I did? I did. But before we get to that, 91 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to the off seats is over. Now we're 92 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: saying goodbye because tomorrow night we're gonna be live from 93 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: the Green Brier. We're gonna just focus on camps. So 94 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: this concludes the off season. And are you with me 95 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: that the biggest story in the off season as far 96 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: as this organization went, actually occurred in January when they 97 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: made the switch to Brian Gaine. I mean, I think 98 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: that that was probably the biggest story. Or am I wrong? 99 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: How do you see it? As the league writer? That 100 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: feels like such a long time ago it was. You 101 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: almost forget that this is still his first season, Yeah, 102 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: as general manager, because he was really only gone for 103 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: last season. He was here until last May and then 104 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: he left. He's a big presence in the building anywhere. 105 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: One of the players even joked that he didn't even 106 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: realize he was gone. One of the players have signed 107 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: in the off season, and I remember that. Well, you know, 108 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: time flies, you know, and the season goes by in 109 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: the blank of it. I mean, I think I don't 110 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: think that's as big of a story, just because I 111 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: don't think we're going to see significant changes from Brian 112 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: Gaine taken over. I think that he's worked with Bill O'Brien. 113 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: It's not like this huge shake of where you bring 114 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: in somebody with a completely different vision. I think it'll 115 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: be as far as the team vision and what you're 116 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: seeing on the field stematically and all that exactly. So 117 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: I don't see it making a huge impact like it's 118 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: you've seen it in the building though. The physical impact. 119 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: The physical impact because there are a lot of new coaches. 120 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: The facilities look different. I mean, the facilities are so 121 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 1: it blows me away now. I think they needed an upgrade. 122 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Like I've said before, it was state of the art 123 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: when they opened it. You want to maintain state of 124 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: the art. You gotta keep changing it, and they went 125 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: through some big changes and we've talked about that plenty, 126 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: but I think that that is a real gain, maybe 127 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: a gain O'Brien thing, you know, their alignment they've determined, 128 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: along with Jamie Roots and Bob McNair and everybody cal McNair, 129 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: they said, look, let's just go ahead and blow out 130 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: the kitchen or the cafeteria, rather blow out the weight room. 131 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: Just do some new things here and just sort of 132 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: hit reset on the facilities as much as they possibly can. 133 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: I think it was time for refresh. But I also 134 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: think that with all the injuries that happened last year, 135 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: they had to self scout and say, okay, what can 136 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: we do differently right heading into this season. So I 137 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: think it's all going to be positive for the Texans, 138 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: having all these new facilities, having a brand new strength 139 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: and conditioning team, new nutritionist, knew everything, like everybody's raving 140 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: about it so far, and I think we're going to 141 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: see the impact of it. I mean, can't I mean 142 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: I should knock on. Can't have war injuries than you 143 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: had last year, but you want to see significantly less 144 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: severe injuries, well, especially to the people who got him. 145 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: Although it seems like everybody got something, and I'm sure 146 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: they did, but we all know who missed the season. 147 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned Luke Richison and the strength and 148 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: conditioning program, the sports performance aspects of what's going on here. 149 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: I think that that acquisition is as big as anything 150 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: they did this offseason because he was highly coveted. I mean, 151 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: he was really doing well in Denver, want to ring there. 152 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: They loved him. He's a top notch guy and to 153 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: get him now. I know it doesn't like make big 154 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: headlines on Sports Center, but in the football world a 155 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: lot of eyes open when they saw that Luke Richson 156 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: came here. I think it makes a big difference for 157 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: the players and how they work out, and Denver I 158 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: think did want to keep him. The difference was that 159 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: the Texans were able to offer him a bit of 160 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: a promotion, so he wasn't just head strength and conditioning coach. 161 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: He was in charge of sports performance and everything sort 162 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: of fell under his umbrella. His influence had a lot 163 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: to do with these changes they did. I mean, I've 164 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: talked to him in the hallway here and there. So 165 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: he was with Kubiak for a year in Denver, so 166 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, there's a little bit of crossover there with 167 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: the Texans organization. Obviously, Bill O'Brien thought very highly of him. 168 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: He comes well recommended. I mean, I just think in 169 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: this building, you just hear the players talking about the 170 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: food and how the changes to their body and how 171 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: they're feeling. Deshaun Watson talked about how there's certain nutrition 172 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: now that will help his knee heal better. This was 173 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: a few months ago. Wow. Like to think that, and 174 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: I've always believed in that. But you know, to get 175 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: like twenty something ye old players to buy into that, yeah, 176 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: is difficult, But once they see the results. I mean 177 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: that's when a program really starts working. Twenty two years old, 178 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: I might have put Keso on the knee and see 179 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: if that works. Twenty two years old, and he's buying 180 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: into all this stuff. But it is his life, it's 181 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: his career, it's his livelihood. So I get it absolutely. 182 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: But I think that's another big story. I mean, we've 183 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: talked about that a lot, so I think it is, 184 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: relative to what's going on here, a pretty big story. 185 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: What else, I mean, the draft, the free agent acquisitions, 186 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: I think all the roster changes that happened in the 187 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: offseason CJ. Fedorowitz retiring the Texans drafting two tight ends, 188 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: you get a new special teams coach. I think that 189 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: there's going to be a rookie that joined this team 190 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: that's going to get a starting spot, and I'm really 191 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: interested to see who that's going to be because we've 192 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: had so many offseason most likely to get a starting spot. 193 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: Which rookie in your opinion, is it Justin Reed, is 194 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: it Kiki Qt? Is it one of the tight ends? 195 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean, a tight end is tough because if they 196 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: opened with one tight end of the field, you assume 197 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: it's Ryan Griffin if he's healthy. But if they go 198 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: with two tight ends, now it opens up the whole 199 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: can because you have all, right, this is Steven Anderson 200 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: the guy, because you need a receiver out there. Or 201 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: if you're going double tights and you want to pound 202 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: the rock a little bit or a show that you're 203 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: gonna pound the rock, do you put Jordan Thomas in there? 204 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: Or maybe Aikens who looked bigger than I expected when 205 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: I first saw him come into the building. But what 206 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that. I definitely I would put 207 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: Kiki Qt up there because I think there's so much 208 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: of a need at as a returner, and I think 209 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: they don't want to compromise Wolf Fuller by putting him 210 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: in that position again. To have him as a return 211 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: guy and as your number two. He's proven himself valuable 212 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: when healthy, so I think they're going to try to 213 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: put checked him and keep him healthy. So I think 214 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: keke Q's got a really good shot. Tyler Irvin still 215 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: working his way back from injury, but after seeing Keiki 216 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: in the off season and OTAs John Harris and I 217 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: were saying, he's he's really impressive. It seemed like everything 218 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: that kind of came his way, even not perfect throws, 219 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, a little bit high here and there. He 220 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: has great hands, great speed. I'm really excited to see him. 221 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: He seems really explosive and fun to watch um. And 222 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: you know what, I think the tight ends Jordan Aikins. 223 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: I think he could he could make a push for 224 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: that starting spot. Well, that'll be interesting because you know, 225 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: Griffin knows the system and everything. And I feel horrible 226 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: for Ryan because you feel like he's one concussion away 227 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: from maybe that's it. I mean, who knows. With what 228 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: happened with c J F Dow. Yeah, it's a tough 229 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: position to play. Stephen Anderson was hurt last year too. 230 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: He had the concussion. He had the concussions also yea 231 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: as well. They were all out, they were all concussed, 232 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: and then when Steven Anderson came back, he definitely didn't 233 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: look like himself. And I and I wonder how much 234 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: of that is. Once you've been concussed, you know that 235 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: you're more vulnerar. Role to get in can cost you 236 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: come back, so you play a little bit different. We 237 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: made that tremendous catch on fourth down against the Tennessee 238 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: Titans on the road. I mean, who knows. You're right? 239 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: You want to get everybody and keep everybody healthy. That's 240 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: my number one priority. By the way, spoiler alert, and 241 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: there's it's not just luck. I think that goes into that, 242 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: but we'll get into that later. I'm with you though, 243 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: Like I would say, it's Kiki qt most likely to 244 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: start among the rookies, but with Justin Reid with Andre 245 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: Hall out, Yeah, Justin Reid he's got a good chance here. 246 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: But Kareem Jackson plays safety now and obviously Tyron Matthew's 247 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: gonna play, So I don't know. What they do back there, 248 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: and we'll go over that a little bit in the 249 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: next segment. But if I had to say most likely 250 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: to start, I'd probably still say, you know, QT in 251 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: the slot versus read. It's safety here. I am sort 252 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: of thinking aloud. I would say QT. Maybe you know, 253 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: I think Read's gonna get in there. Don't get me wrong, 254 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: they go, they go, dime, Read is in for sure, 255 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: they go Nickel. I don't know. Based defense, I don't know. 256 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: I just gotta see it, and that's what we'll be 257 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: looking for at the Greenbrier. I just think that the 258 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: learning curve at the position of safety is so much 259 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: steeper for a guy like Justin Reid to be able 260 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: to read the offenses and react quickly. It's going to 261 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: take him a little while to get there, right, So 262 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: I think, what if he is. What if within the 263 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: first few weeks you know that's your guy. That's totally possible. 264 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: But I'm just giving him a few months at least 265 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: to sort of learn the system, and then you never know. 266 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 1: With injuries, you never want to see it happened. But 267 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: maybe he gets He gets some starts as well. But 268 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: with Kareem moving there, I think Kareem's got the experience, 269 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: and then obviously Tyron Matthew. I am really excited to 270 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: see him out of camp as well. Yeah, me too. 271 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: And we're gonna get him miked up one of these 272 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: days pretty soon here. So they've gotta be in pads 273 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: for us to make him up, otherwise we'll crush the 274 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: microphones in the nonpadded uniform. He spoke at an Academy 275 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: event yesterday and I thought it was really interesting. He 276 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: was asked which player are you most excited to see 277 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: on the field, and he said, Kevin Johnson. Oh, that's great. 278 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: He's really excited to see Kevin Johnson's work ethic, how 279 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: he's worked this hard this offseason. That's definitely gonna be 280 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: a story I'm gonna follow throughout training camp. You want 281 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: to talk about guys you want to see really emerge 282 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: this year, bounce back definitely, because he he hit a 283 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: slump last year and everyone saw the promise he had 284 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: as a rookie and I and I have to think 285 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: that injury has something to do with it. It definitely 286 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: affects you in the head. But to have a healthy 287 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: offseason and to work your way back, I'm excited to 288 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: see what he does well. I think it affects you 289 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: in so many ways. I mean, you know, I have 290 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: nothing to compare this too, obviously not a professional athlete. Spoiler, 291 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: you're doing play by play and you mess up a 292 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: call horribly bad. Do you bounced back or does it 293 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: sit with you for a little while it sits with me? 294 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: Or I'll give you another example that does sort of apply. 295 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: It's not apples to apples, But when I had all 296 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: my voice issues and I still struggle with this stuff, 297 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's like having an injury and you're always 298 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: watching out for it, but not being able to go 299 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: there with my voice go to certain levels a range, 300 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: a level of delivery, projection, excitement when big plays happen, 301 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: and even sometimes little plays. That really affected me because 302 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you feel like I can't do this, 303 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: I can't do that, I can't react that way, and 304 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: your mind is using this governor now to sort of 305 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: watch over your voice to make sure that you don't 306 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: go to certain places, even in conversations like this, And 307 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: that was really bothersome to me. I've had issues over 308 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: the years with that, and I thought, imagine being an 309 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: athlete where I like, I know, I can't cut this 310 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: way on my knee, so I got to go straight 311 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: instead of I can't make that cut, I can't make 312 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: this move that I used to make. That's got to 313 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: be so aggravating, especially when that's your livelihood. Well, guess what, 314 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: my voice is my livelihood. And that was really bothering me, 315 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: and it still does, but much less because I've I 316 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: could go you know, we could do a podcast on 317 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: vocals someday on the Deep Slant. I want to be 318 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: a guest, and I'll talk about vocal warmups, everything that 319 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: goes into I'll talk about how acid reflux affects the voice. 320 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: And you look at me. It's not like I don't 321 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: look exactly partly like i'd be suffering from heartburn every 322 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: single but let me tell you, there's nothing to do 323 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: with weight or anything. It is something that a lot 324 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: of people suffer from. And I had tremendous vocal issues 325 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: because of it. And I didn't really have major heartburn 326 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: or reflux symptom other than the acids burning the vocal chords. 327 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: And I talk a lot and I should probably shut 328 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: up more. Well, it's funny because anyone that knows you 329 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: knows that in social settings, you don't like to go 330 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: anywhere where there's loud music, where there's a lot of 331 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: ambient noise. You came to my house. You came to 332 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: my house once h for it was it was my birthday, 333 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: I think, and a lot of my friend surprise party, 334 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: my surprise party. I was surprised to see you there. 335 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: I definitely did not expect to see you. You among 336 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: my friends, but they were so excited to talk to you. 337 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, it's the voice of the Texans. When 338 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: you left, someone came up to me and said, he's 339 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: so shy. He doesn't and I said, no, no no, no, no, no, 340 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: he's not shy. Really, he just talked, just talks really soft. 341 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: Somebody said I was shy. Yeah, that is the last 342 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: thing he is. He's just your husband did a great job. 343 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: And there was somebody I don't know if they were 344 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: a pro, but they were djaying and it was, you know, 345 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: the music was thumping a little bit that night, you know, 346 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: And that's not your ideal sitting now, because if I 347 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: have to raise my voice to a certain level, a 348 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: loud rome will kill me more than anything. Because you 349 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: don't realize it well you do you realize that, you 350 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: realize when you come back from Vegas sound like Kathleen 351 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: Turner does now, and it's just it's not good. But 352 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: you've been talking in loud rooms for a whole week now, 353 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: and I've learned as well, like when you go to 354 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: concerts or when you want to sing along with the 355 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: song that you hear, you got a lip sync. You 356 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: cannot sing at the top of your voice. No one's 357 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: gonna hear it anywhere. No one's gonna hear it anyway. 358 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: And then I'm just compromising my own this time. I 359 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: know it's full real, Okay. Next segment, probably not. I 360 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: don't know why. That's all I propped out of my head. 361 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: Next segment, we're gonna talk about training camp. Two dudes. 362 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: I've got six of them. I want to see if 363 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: you agree. And then Jeff Van Gundy coming up. It's 364 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. Texans All Access continues here from the 365 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: Hyunday Texans Radio Studio. I'm Mark Vandermere, and away we 366 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: go segment two. We talked a little bit in segment 367 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: what about the big off season stories. The off season's over, 368 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: it's the eve of departure to the Greenbriar for the 369 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. We are going tomorrow. We will have all 370 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: our coverage for you every weekday morning, the first couple 371 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: of weeks of practice eight to ten am on Sports 372 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: Radio six ten Texans Training Camp Live, and then every 373 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: night six o'clock Texans All Access. So you'll hear from 374 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: your Texans, you'll hear from Bill O'Brien, you'll hear what's 375 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: going on at Texans Training Camp. And after every practice 376 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: we'll have later in the day. You want to check 377 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: it out social media, Houston Texans dot com, It's Texans 378 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: Training Camp Today. It's a TV show that's digital. Watch 379 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: it on your phone. It really is a great way 380 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: to get you up to date on what happened at camp. 381 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: Watch all the highlights and everything, and just be following 382 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: us on all the social media channels because we're live 383 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: out there before practice. Are you gonna be on the 384 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: Fourth Square Network this year? If I'm invited as a guest, 385 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: I would love to. Yeah. I was on it a 386 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: few times last year. Seth Pain co hosted with me 387 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: one day. He did because Drew, But you know what, now, 388 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: Drew's not going anywhere because that was when Drew was 389 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: oh yeah, Drew, Yeah, because we're there for like, you know, 390 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: three months last year of film, now were three weeks. 391 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: It blew up like I left. I left for a 392 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: little bit and I came back in the four square 393 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: network became a thing. Yeah, so I had to catch 394 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: up on like previous episodes and broadcasts. But yeah, I 395 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: guess the d Lineman they used to watch the previous 396 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: day's broadcast before their meetings every day. So then the 397 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: pressure was on because you're thinking, here's Anthony, we were 398 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: jj wat. All these guys are like forty thousand people 399 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: are watching it live. I've got six guys. Well, the 400 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: d Lineman are going to be really really and we 401 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: had we had reoccurring storylines, like the fact that the 402 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: players accused the coaches of cheating, that they would watch 403 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: the watch the clock because they knew when when the 404 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: when the they blow the horn to start practice. I 405 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: think I knew about the game four square, but not entirely, 406 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: and then I learned about it. So they played this 407 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: before practice those who don't know, and we broadcast it 408 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: live because you know, after a while, like watching guys 409 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: stretch that only goes so far. We go four square. 410 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: It's highly entertaining stuff. It's a champion. Every day, there's 411 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: a king. It's it's really good stuff, all right. So 412 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: dep speaking of defensive line, because they're the four square guys, 413 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: that is not one of my priority groups here. Not 414 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: that they're not a priority. Everybody's a priority. Wat's coming back, 415 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: rock and roll, let's go. But to me, that's not 416 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: one of the position groups that has to be put 417 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: under the microscope like some of the rest, at least 418 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: for us. You know, the coaches are doing what they do. 419 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: They might be in one of the better situations as 420 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: far as position groups on the team. With JJ coming 421 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: back and then DJ Reader with all the starts under 422 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: his build, I mean, I'm expecting big things for DJ 423 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: this year. Well, and then you've got so much depth 424 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: potential anyway of Brandon Donny, of Christian Covington, you have 425 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins, you had good players, Joel Heath coming back. 426 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at who's on the line, and 427 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: then who knows what Romeo Cornell wants to do. Hey, 428 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney's actually a defensive end. Sorry, guys, and we're 429 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: gonna start Scarlett and Merciless at the edges and I 430 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna do that or not, but 431 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: everything's in play here. You have a lot of versatility 432 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: and they love that. And linebacking. While we're on the 433 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: subject of the front seven, that's not a position group 434 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: of concern when I look at the tirety of the 435 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: front seven, the linebacking corp, the outside linebackers. Of course, 436 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: Whitney's coming back healthy, and then you look inside with 437 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: McKinney and Dylan Cole backing up. Zach Cunningham was in 438 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: year two, Cole in year two. Obviously, Hey, those guys, 439 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, we talk about what they did last year. 440 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: This is year two. This is when you look for 441 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: that jump from them, and they played well. Let's go 442 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: Dylan Cole at inside linebacker. What a steal for the 443 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: Texans last year. He steps in and does some great 444 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: things on special teams. He always seems to be around 445 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: when the tackles made on special teams. What he's able 446 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: to do against the run. He brought his speed, he 447 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: brought his physicality. It's a good point about special teams 448 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, they love guys that can play special teams. 449 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: But then he can start as well, Bernardo McKinney and 450 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: Zach Cunningham. I don't know how much we expected out 451 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: of him being a rookie, but I think he surpassed them. 452 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: If there was any silver lining in a year of injuries, 453 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: that you really got to see what you had in everybody, 454 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: and he gave everybody a chance to play and start 455 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: at some point this year. But I think you're right 456 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: front seven. Just cross it off the list, Yeah, cross 457 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: it off. Why don't we just cross off the whole 458 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: defense while we're at it, because you're gonna go secondary. Well, 459 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: hang on a second, though, because that is actually one 460 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: of my key little position groups here, only because you're 461 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: moving guys around right, You're moving Kareem to safety, J 462 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: Joe and I'm just projecting this right now, Jjoe and 463 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson start outside, you know, I know everybody's read 464 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: articles about Colvin wants to start outside. He can, He 465 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: talks about it. I don't know what they're gonna do, 466 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: but I expect Colvin to be in the slot. And 467 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: let's just talk about Nickel here. I don't I don't 468 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: even want to talk about bass defense. You're hardly ever 469 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: in it. So you have Colvin in the slot, Jjoe 470 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: and Johnson outside and Kareem does he start at safety? 471 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: Is it justin Reid like we talked about last segment, 472 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: You know Tyran Matthew's gonna start at safety. No, Andre Hall, 473 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: of course, Corey Moore is gonna be back. You know, 474 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: you got a lot of different things in play here 475 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: in the defensive backfield, and I think it's not like 476 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm really concerned with it necessarily, but I'm eager to 477 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: see how they line everybody up because there's so many 478 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: different ways you can go. And if you get hurt 479 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: at corner, it gets pretty thin in a hurry, and 480 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: you know, move Kareem whatever or Colvid outside. If you 481 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: know one of the outside guys gets hurt, you put 482 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: Kareem in the slot. So yeah, there's an option right there. 483 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: But you do get thinner faster than you think. I 484 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: guess a lot of teams will say that. I mean, 485 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: that's why you have so many guys that are versatile, 486 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: that can play so many different positions. Restin de cou 487 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: he was corner, moved to safety, but you're right, like 488 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: he's down there, he's he's he's in that mix as well. 489 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: But you make a good point, like when when you 490 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: drop off from the starters, what's next? But I think 491 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: one of the one or two or more of these 492 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: guys are going to show themselves to us in camp. 493 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: But I think that that is virgin. He made some 494 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: plays the virgin. I mean you look at all the 495 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean the rookies are going to be really interesting 496 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: to watch, especially the guys from San Jose State. How 497 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: about that all of them? Now? All of them? So 498 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this though obviously health we talked about it, 499 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: the changes in the building, some of the moves they're making. 500 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: How much rest do guys like what get? How much 501 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: does Watson actually do? Clearly, by what you've seen on video, 502 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: he's capable of doing whatever you need him to do. 503 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: But how much do you want him to do? How 504 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: much exposes him? I don't know the answers to these questions, 505 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: and these questions will be answered a training camp, but 506 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm eager to see what they do well. Bill O'Brien, 507 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: before the team broke for that long month that they 508 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: go away, he said they were going to sit down 509 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: and decide how many reps between him and Brian Gain 510 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: and their their stabs they were going to decide how 511 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 1: many reps does de Sean get in training camp, how 512 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: many does he get in the preseason. I think as 513 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: many as he can get, they're going to give him 514 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, right, Well, he probably wants to play 515 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: all the time, you know. I mean he's got to 516 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: catch up in a hurry because he had playing time, 517 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: He had significant playing time. But I think in the 518 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: preseason you may see a lot of him early on, 519 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: and then they'll just back off because obviously you talk 520 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: about losing depth in a hurry. If something happens to Watson, 521 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: there's no replacing a guy like that. Don't even get 522 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: me started off. Do you want to bubble wrap him 523 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: Mark like bubble wrap. You can't bubble wrap the quarterback. 524 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: You can't bubble wrap the quarterback, but you can put 525 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: the red jersey on. I mean it's pretty close. So 526 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: you have that. You may have to do that a lot. 527 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: And I know DeAndre Hopkins is going to have some 528 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: unbelievable practices. You know, I popping practices. But I want 529 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: to bubble wrap him too, give him a couple and 530 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: sit him down. I mean, the problem is this, it's 531 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: a six week period. Guys, do need work. I mean, 532 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: you need to keep the skills going. It's not like 533 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: you just show up opening day and play football. We 534 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: all know that. So you have to balance that out, 535 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: and that's going to be their job. But the biggest 536 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: priority group is offensive line to me, and you have 537 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: to find out who your best five guys are. You 538 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: have Nick Martin back, everybody else is brand new in 539 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: the starting equation to this team anyway. But I like 540 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: Senio Kellamta. You know, I looked at the Saints Vikings 541 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: game a bunch. They've been rerunning it a ton on 542 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: NFL Network, and you see Kellament they starting in that game, 543 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: and you feel like, all right, he can play. You know, 544 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: this guy can play Fulton, you know he can play 545 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: the tackles. You know Henderson can play if he's tip 546 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: top physically and health wise, you know, not just injury 547 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: health wise, but just personal health wise. With the Crohn's disease. 548 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: Davenport's gonna be a big mystery. But he looked decent 549 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. So let's just hope 550 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: it works out. Because you want to talk about then 551 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: in a hurry, tackle gets thin ultra quickly if it's 552 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: not together. Yeah, I mean, everyone says, oh line, but 553 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: I think it's really going to come out of the 554 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: tackles because those are your most inexperienced right now at 555 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: the position. Julian obviously, we know he had a few 556 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: starts last year. Sean Hrell Henderson so much ceiling it 557 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: upside for a guy that had to deal with the 558 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: Crohn's disease. Mike Devlin, the offensive line coach, said this 559 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: offseason that a guy like Deshaun Watson makes the old 560 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: line better. And I was very curious when he said 561 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: that what exactly he meant. And you know Wade Smith obviously, 562 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: I respect Wade Smith a tony. I've had him on 563 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: the podcast as well, and I heard him on one 564 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: of I think it was the morning show on Mad Radio. 565 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: He was talking about why exactly Deshaun Watson makes the 566 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: old line better, and he said, the way that he 567 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: functions both in and outside the pocket, it gives the 568 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: pass rush a few seconds where they it slows them 569 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: down basically, right, they have to they have to figure 570 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: out what's happening with him, where he's going, where he's going, 571 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: and it makes them he said, he said, a half 572 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: tick slower every pass rush and then over time, that 573 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: gives the old line a little bit more time to 574 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: take over their responsibilities, do their job there on the field, 575 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: and then the the pass rush gets a little bit 576 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: less confident. Yeah, as a result. So I don't know, 577 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how that works out. Like they're 578 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: going after a statue back there, they're not. But I 579 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: think in a game like this, every second that you 580 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: can or every fraction of a second that you can 581 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: gain as far as an advantage over these pass rushers 582 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: is huge. Like you look at Jedevy and Clowney and 583 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: JJ Watt like they just ball, snap, they go. But 584 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: if you can give them some hesitation, yeah, you know, 585 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: it just gives everything. That fraction of a second means everything, 586 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: especially to a quarterback, to get the ball out, find 587 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: an open receive a good point. All right, good explanation 588 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: by Wade that you just related to that. I just 589 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: sort of jumbled the words. He said it much more eloquently. 590 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: That's what it is. Another position group that I'm talking 591 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 1: about in this article that's up on Houston Texans dot com. 592 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: With more training camp to dos determine exactly what the 593 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: playmaking depth is at running back because with Deonte Foreman's 594 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: health situation, I want to see how quickly comes back, 595 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: because if he can't come back right away, you've got 596 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: a playmaking depth situation here. I know Alfred Blue can 597 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: come and help you out, there's no question about that. 598 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: I want to see what Troy main Pope does Irvin's health. Hey, 599 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: I don't know, big question mark there, and then you 600 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: look at you look at the rookies, you look at 601 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: Lavon Coleman and Terry Swanson. I don't know what the 602 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 1: playmaking depth is like really, and I think they have 603 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: to find out what they've got there, especially if deontay 604 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: Foreman can't go. I think I think you have to 605 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: play to the strengths of your running backs before deontay 606 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: Foreman comes back. I think what Lamar Miller does is 607 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: very different from what Deontay Foreman does, and that's very 608 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: different from what Alfred Blue does. So what Lamar Miller 609 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: is really good at, he's really good at blocking. Maybe 610 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: you have to compensate for the fact that you've got 611 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: a very young old line and so you have a 612 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: guy like Lamar and you utilize him for his blocking seals. 613 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: When Deontay Foreman comes back, he's got speed, he's able 614 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: to get up the field really quickly, utilize them in 615 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: different ways. And then Alfred Blue comes in and he 616 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: seems to every now and then he'll have a game 617 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: where he rushes for one hundred yards. But I'll tell 618 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: you one thing, when Deontay Foreman comes back, it is 619 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: going to be exciting to watch. You just hope a 620 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: guy like that can recover from an achilles and back 621 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: to his full self what we saw last year at Arizona. Yeah, 622 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough, all right. Another one preparing for 623 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: the new kickoff rule as special teams gets upgraded. And 624 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: this is kind of a two pronged thing here, because 625 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: you're upgrading special teams and you have to prepare for 626 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: the new kickoff rule, which I think dp is going 627 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: to be interesting opening week to see how people handle this. 628 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna learn the whole story in preseason. 629 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be opening week. Oh here's what Belichick's doing 630 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: with it? Oh my gosh. And guess what Texans are 631 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,479 Speaker 1: playing him? Right, So you gotta be ready for whatever 632 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: this is, whatever the nuances are now as the Texans 633 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 1: try to improve on special teams. I don't know how 634 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: you feel, but I equate. I like watching practice, you 635 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: know this. I like the one I want drills. I 636 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: liked it, and I heard you talking about this with Johnny. 637 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: I like watching the seven on seven and all that. 638 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: One thing I don't like watching a special teams practice. 639 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: Watching special teams practice for an NFL team is like 640 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: watching an NBA team shoot free throws. It's like, you know, 641 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: that's the heart where I go to the bathroom. You know, 642 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: I want to see who's returning. Hope Special teams is 643 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: not listening. They understand this, they feel the same. No, 644 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel the same way. I 645 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: don't think Brad ceiling. No, Brade does it, because that's 646 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: like I'm on im on the head coach of what's 647 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: going on right now on this field, with everybody involved. 648 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: It's really important. I'm actually not looking forward to the 649 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: new kickoff rules. I think it's going to be a 650 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: total flag fust I just remember that practicing was it 651 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: was yeah, OTAs they were practicing it, you know, you 652 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: got to have so many guys line up this way, 653 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: so many these guys have to be this many yards 654 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage. These guys can be closer 655 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: to it. It just there were so many specific details, 656 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: and I think it's very hard that you to remember 657 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: all those pieces, especially if that's not the way that 658 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: it's been played before. Yeah, I think it's going to 659 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: take some adjusting to. But hey, that's what training camps for. 660 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: The one thing I do like watching a scene who 661 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: the return guys are, who they're who they're thinking about 662 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: is potential return guys. And if I were them, I 663 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: would mess with people. You know, I would put like, 664 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: all right, Letler's gonna punt, but to return, we're gonna 665 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: have John Wicks. No, I'm just kidding, But Bill O'Brien 666 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: used to do this all the time his first year. 667 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: I remember Arian back there returning. I remember seeing he 668 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: would be such a great kicker. Kareem Jackson back there, 669 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: he had everybody. But I thought, there is no way 670 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: you're putting all these guys back there to return kicks. 671 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know if it was 672 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: to throw the media off or it would just to 673 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: keep to keep things interesting. In practice, I think he 674 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: wanted everybody to dip their toe in the special teams waters, 675 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, it keeps people humble. Plus it improves your 676 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: special teams, you know. But I don't know if he 677 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: was going to risk that during an actual game situation. 678 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to see will Fuller 679 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: return punts anymore. I don't think that we will see 680 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: too much. Saw Braxton Miller get hurt doing that last 681 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: year against Tennessee. I don't know if I need to 682 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: see this. I want somebody back there who you know, 683 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: you hate to say, this guy's expendable, put him back there, 684 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: but will Fuller, you cannot afford to lose him. He's 685 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: just too good with Watson. I mean, look at that, well, 686 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: look at what they did, seven touchdowns. This was also 687 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: not even his thing returning punts. I think when the 688 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: Texans drafted him, they put him in that because the speed, 689 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: but not he didn't do a whole lot of it. 690 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: An odor team. Well, the problem with him is, uh, 691 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, he's got that speed, so the coaches see 692 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: it and they just go nuts. I mean, it's just 693 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: like it's too tantalizing to not use. But that's all 694 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: I have. Really. The rest is just easy. It's easy 695 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: does play football. I'm worried about quarterback of course, behind 696 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: the Shaun Watson, but everybody is I think you can 697 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: win some games with Brandon weedon with this football team. 698 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: But you know, we all know what it's about. It 699 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: to keep it number four healthy and then things should 700 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: go I'm not going to say smoothly, but they'll be 701 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: really exciting and you hope for the best. I think 702 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: that's the case with every team pretty much. No team 703 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: wants to see their backup getting there, but you know 704 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: what if you've got some guys in there that can 705 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: give him some relief. You know, when the Texans are 706 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: up by what was it against Tennessee, you said you'd 707 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: never said and then won by forty three, you said, 708 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: I've never in my life said this on a broadcast. 709 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: Texans are now up by forty. You'd love to see 710 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: more games like forty forty. I'd let's take those forty 711 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: points and other games or I've needed some points here. 712 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you'd go undefeated last year or maybe all right, dB, 713 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: thanks a lot, alright, coming up, Jeff Van Gundy. I 714 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: had him on the podcast Vandermeer's View, and we're gonna 715 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: have some great moments from that one, and I mean 716 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: great He's great. You know, I do my thing. I'm 717 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: just trying here, but Van Gundy was awesome and it's 718 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: next on Texans All Access. All right, Texans All Access 719 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: here from the Hyunday Texans Radio studio. Okay, recently I 720 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: caught up with Jeff Van Gundy and the Vandermeer's View podcast. 721 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: You can check that out at Houston Texans dot com. 722 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: Here are a couple of highlights of that. We talked 723 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: about everything from the Rockets to the Knicks to the Texans, 724 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: and also Jeff's involvement with pro Vision and Outstanding School 725 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: and Sunnyside dealing with at risk youth and this phenomenal 726 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: the job they do there and Roynale Young, former NFL 727 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: defensive back leading the way there. Provision Dashinc Dot Org. 728 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: Just google Provision Houston and you get information on this 729 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: wonderful school. Anyway, here's Jeff Van Gundy. We started out 730 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: this segment anyway, talking about the Houston Texans and NFL 731 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: football maybe compared to basketball a little bit. His perspective, well, 732 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: I think number one to me is just how few 733 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: games you have to get it right in football. So 734 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: you go on a three game losing streak in football, 735 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: that means you haven't won for three weeks. That means 736 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: like in basketball, three game losing streak is yeah, we'll 737 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: bounce back. Everybody goes through that. In football, you know, 738 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: you take a bad break in a game, you know, 739 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: field goal hits the upright and falls in or out 740 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: depending on your perspective, can make the difference between being 741 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: a playoff team and out of the playoffs. And I 742 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: also think because of the format of football that once 743 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: you get in in football, you have a chance, you 744 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: have a chance to minute. And in basketball, the best teams, 745 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: because it's the best out of seven, they're usually going 746 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: to rise to the top. In football, getting in, to 747 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: me is exceptionally hard, and then once you're in, though, 748 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: you have a legit chance to win it all. And 749 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: to me, that's what I love about NFL football, Like 750 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: there's no series. You play one game and if you 751 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: if you're the better team on that day, you advance. 752 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: And then the I love the Super Bowl being on 753 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: a neutral field too. I think it's the best way 754 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: to find out and to increase you know, fandom, I mean, 755 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 1: And also it's just it's like a holiday in in 756 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: the sports world where You don't find that in basketball 757 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: as much. When you look at the way this game 758 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: is played and the way this game is coached. You're 759 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: watching from the seats sometimes. How much are you coming 760 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: to games? Are you able to come again? Oh? Yeah, 761 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: you're I come every I'll miss one last year I missed. 762 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: Didn't we play on Christmas last year? Yeah? So I 763 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: had a Christmas game and my family, my older daughter, 764 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: we come together since she came back from college and 765 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: is working in town. So we'll we'll be there every 766 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: every Sunday. Park in the same spot, walk the same route, 767 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 1: come eat at the same place. Uh, you know, really 768 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, uh section that we're in one ten. Uh. 769 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: It's interesting like that row of people have we've become friends, 770 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: the row of people both in front of us and 771 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: behind us. You're watching kids grow up. You're watching you know, 772 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: some people being very affected by the hurricane, and they 773 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: didn't make it back for you know, many of those 774 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: games that season because they were trying to you know, uh, 775 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: fix their lives. I mean, so you get. I love 776 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: the feeling of camaraderie, not just everybody rooting for the 777 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: Texans and debating, you know, play calls and stratag and 778 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: all that, but just the camaraderie of the of the 779 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: group around you. It's been the best part of being 780 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: a season ticket holder with the Texans. What do you 781 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: think of just DeShawn Watson as well? I was a 782 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: huge match Shop fan and uh um, First of all, 783 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,479 Speaker 1: we've been blessed with incredible coaches. I was thinking about 784 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: this on the way over to see you today. You 785 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: know Dom Capers, Gary Kubiak and now Bill O'Brien, I mean, 786 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 1: and then the great coordinators and the you know, position 787 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: coaches and and quarterback play. To me, it seems like 788 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: in football and I know nothing about it. I love 789 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: watching football, but I can't. I'm no expert. Um. I 790 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: love Shop and then but Deshaun Watson, like, can you 791 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: be the best that's ever played for a team in 792 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: seven games? And I'm like those seven games? Yeah, I 793 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I was like the playmaking ability. 794 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: It was mesmerizing. I was watching him. I'm not a 795 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: Twitter guy, but I was watching him on Bleacher Report 796 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: today doing those uh some drills with his footwork, and 797 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: I can I got to pit in my stomach because 798 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: he is he looking right? It's you know, like, oh 799 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: my goodness, but hey, we have a real chance like 800 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: with him, like this could be a run of like 801 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, twelve fifteen years of great quarterback play that 802 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: makes us a special era of Texans football. Jeff An 803 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: Goundi with us on Texans Radio. Tell me about yow 804 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: what it was like to coach him? What was that 805 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: era like for you? Well, I think people because Yao 806 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: was injured, they tend to forget how good he was 807 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: when he did play. So at that time, Shaq was 808 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 1: clearly the best center right, and then the third best 809 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: center at that time was a young Dwight Howard. The 810 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: difference between and Yao was second. The difference between Shack 811 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 1: and Yoo was far less than it was between Yao 812 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: and Howard. Yao was clearly on this Hall of Fame path. 813 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: He was dominant as an offensive player. Now he had 814 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: some defensive challenges because of his size mobility. Guarding the 815 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 1: pick and roll was hard. But he was so good 816 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 1: at the other end that other teams couldn't play small 817 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: Like you see a lot of teams downsizing. Now, you 818 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: couldn't have done that against yah. Y'all would have had 819 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: fifty on you in a game. He was also the 820 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: best teammate I've ever coached. He literally was. And the 821 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: people would say this about other players, but this was 822 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: true in Yaw's case. He was as happy for other 823 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: people's and other player's success as he was for his own. 824 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: So if he, you know, had twelve in a game 825 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: and we won, and someone like Ray for Alston had 826 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: twenty two, he wasn't the star player that was upset 827 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: that someone else stole some of his thunder. He was 828 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: actually excited for that person. And I think that's a 829 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: rare quality in great players today, that they can be 830 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: as genuinely happy for other success. So he was the 831 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: best teammate you could ever coach. And the other thing 832 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: that set him apart was he had a tremendous sense 833 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: of humor. It was sly, it was sarcastic. Sometimes you'd 834 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: think back ten minutes, like, was he just making fun 835 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: of me? Truly? Just a superior person. So Hall of 836 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: Fame player, even better person character. And now he runs, 837 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, he's the commissioner of the Pro League in China. 838 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: He's doing very well. He comes back here every once 839 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: in a while and I see him, and it's always 840 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: good to see him. Because he has great perspective. One 841 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: thing I want to ask you about athletes, and clearly 842 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 1: some work harder than others, and work is something that's 843 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: available to us all really, especially in that context. You know, 844 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: the gym's open, you can go work, you can go 845 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: do your thing. Why, in your opinion, do some people 846 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: do it and some people don't? I mean, this has 847 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 1: to be the greatest mystery of life when it comes 848 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: to coaching. Well, for me, it's it's pretty easy answer. 849 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: Some people actually love the game, and some people love 850 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: what the game brings to them. The people that actually 851 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: love the game are going to be naturally drawn to 852 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: the gym and to work and to improve. The guys 853 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: who do it because they're good at it, but they 854 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: just don't have that love. They'll do what they have 855 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: to to try to get by, but they'll never commit fully. 856 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: And when you think about it, it would be hard. 857 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: Like if I was a naturally good person, which I'm not, 858 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: at construction, and because I was good at it, I 859 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: felt I had to do it because it paid the bills, 860 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: but I really didn't enjoy it. The drudgery it would 861 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: be to get up every day and go do something 862 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: you don't like just because you're good at it. I 863 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: get now. What you have to try to do as 864 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: a coach is try to figure out who loves it 865 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: because they'll continue to improve, and who just does it 866 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: to get by and to make a living. And I 867 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: was fortunate, for the most part the people that I 868 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: worked under Carol Dawson here in Houston in New York, 869 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: the guys I worked for there, they were pretty good 870 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: at picking the guys that really really wanted to compete 871 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 1: for championships, They wanted to improve. They had incredible pride 872 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: in their craft. And so guys like Ewing and Yow 873 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: and so many others, those are the guys you got 874 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: to try to find. Why is it so hard to 875 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: get some guys to play defense? Is it the same thing? Well, 876 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: it's part the same thing. Like I always say, it 877 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: shouldn't be hard to get guys to try on defense 878 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: if they care about winning. What you have to sell 879 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: is I'm not talking to you about defense. I'm talking 880 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,439 Speaker 1: to you about winning. If you want to win, you'll 881 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: voluntarily commit to that end of the floor too. And 882 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: so we would talk time and time again. Now, some 883 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: guy's abilities aren't as good at that area, maybe their 884 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: lateral quickness, or they're you know, like yeah, for instance, 885 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: you know he was never going to be a great 886 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: pick and roll defender. But what you always could point 887 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: to in a film session, what the rest of the 888 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: team is. He's giving what he has to this pursuit 889 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: of being as good a defender as he can. We 890 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: have no complaints with that. It's up to me as 891 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: a coach to try to put him in the right 892 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: scheme with the right matchup so that we cover up 893 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: for his non strength. But if you're getting the requisite effort, 894 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,240 Speaker 1: attention to detail, commitment, you can be a good defensive team, 895 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: even with some limitations. All Right, one more for you. 896 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: Tell me about international coaching international ball. You've been winning, 897 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 1: Like does this wet the whistle? Is this enough for you? Now? Well? 898 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: I like it because it's it's coaching the g league player, 899 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: you know, the minor league player, to try to help 900 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: the very best NBA players qualify for the World Cup 901 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 1: in next fall twenty nineteen. And it's gonna be a challenge. 902 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: We got to finish in the top three in our division. 903 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: Right now, we're five and one, but there's other teams 904 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: five and one and there's some four and two teams, 905 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be hard because we don't get the 906 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: very best players from our country where the other countries do, right. So, 907 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: but it's really been fun to get to know these 908 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: G League players their plight. They're right on the A 909 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: lot of them that we have are right on the 910 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: fringe between making it to the NBA and not, you know, 911 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's so frustrating for them to be so 912 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: close and to try to help them, you know, by 913 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: coaching them and then also promoting them to the NBA 914 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: teams we've we've had a lot of times. Um, we've 915 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: had I think thirty one different players play for us, 916 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: and I think fourteen have now gone on to get 917 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: at least a ten day contract in the NBA. So 918 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: we're proud of that for them. M So it's been fun. 919 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: And I've always missed coaching, Absolutely miss coaching. And this 920 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: doesn't like wet the whistle as much as it says 921 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: to me, man, there's no better five minutes in life 922 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: than after a great road win like we were one 923 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: in Argentina last summer. And I'll tell you what, no 924 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 1: one in America knew that we did it. But those 925 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 1: people in that locker room, the players, the coaching staff, 926 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 1: the administrators for USA Basketball. There's no better five minutes 927 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: in life than that. Oh man, I heard a rumor 928 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 1: you coached your daughter's basketball team at one point. Absolutely okay, 929 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 1: yeah you cal u, cal and and and everybody always says, 930 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, you know such and such a league in basketball. 931 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,919 Speaker 1: I'm church in football too. It's a players league. I'll 932 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: tell you the ultimate players league. Fourth grade Ucal basketball. 933 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: You know who beat me, uh in a playoff game 934 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: was Adam Wexler. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Adam Wexler's team. 935 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: They drilled us, I think. Yeah, story for the rest 936 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: of his life. Oh you should have seen him parading around. 937 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: His chest was thrown out. Yeah yeah, so yeah. But 938 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: I've splicits more fourth grade girls or NBA guys. Fourth 939 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: grade girls, what I found out is they really care 940 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 1: about two things. Their friends and watered, you know, like 941 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 1: they want they want water, and they're friends. The basketball 942 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: was purely like just a reason to be out there. 943 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 1: So um, I would say without question. The NBA guys, 944 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: I didn't understand what the the cliche of hurting cats 945 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: was until you coach fourth grade girls. Basketball that is 946 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: hurting cats. Jeff, thanks so much for being with us. 947 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: It was great to see you. There is Jeff van 948 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: Gundy from the Vandermeer's View podcast. Thanks very much to 949 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: Jeff for being on that podcast and allowing us to 950 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: use some of this on the radio program. And don't 951 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: forget about Jeff's involvement in that outstanding school and Sunnyside 952 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: Provision Provision Dashinc dot org for more information on that school, 953 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: which does an amazing job transforming the lives of young 954 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: kids who otherwise might not have that opportunity at all. 955 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for the show tonight. Thanks Deepe 956 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: for being on as well. We'll talk to you from 957 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: the Greenbrier tomorrow night. Have a great evening and go Texans.