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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up, Bam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Boyer

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Speaker 2: for Friday, January the ninth, and oh my gosh, do

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Speaker 2: we have a monster freaking podcast for you today heading

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Speaker 2: into wild Card weekend. Amazing guest Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network

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Speaker 2: Draft Guru draft expert, also knows the Chargers as well

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Speaker 2: as anybody potential future NFL front office guy. Is that

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Speaker 2: in play? I don't know. We'll do some best bets

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Speaker 2: after Jeremiah, but first I gotta start with Miami thirty one,

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Speaker 2: Oh miss twenty seven in an absolute thriller. The game

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Speaker 2: was Conda sluggas for three quarters, woke up in the fourth.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how Miami didn't win with more margin,

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Speaker 2: but they did win and cover. Several of you, asked

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Speaker 2: Jay McKay, listen to the pod, great stuff. How come

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Speaker 2: you guys didn't do a best bet? And it's because

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Speaker 2: I didn't have one. Nothing on the game. Only put

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Speaker 2: them in a couple money line parlays and had to

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Speaker 2: sweat that bad boy out. Miami rings up four hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty nine yards of offense, I mean forty one

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Speaker 2: minutes in time of possession to eighteen for ole Miss.

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Speaker 2: It should have been a domination, but just a brutal

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Speaker 2: interception by beck I don't know what he was looking at,

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Speaker 2: kind of sort of flipped the game. You had a

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Speaker 2: miss field goal by Miami. Just a wacky game all around.

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Speaker 2: And when Trinidad Chamberliss is involved, as you guys have

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Speaker 2: seen lookout below, and the fourth quarter had twenty five points.

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Speaker 2: Chamberliss two huge drives down the field. Mind you, ole

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Speaker 2: Miss couldn't really move the football all game long, so

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Speaker 2: they went minus seven yards punt, four yards punt and

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Speaker 2: then the kid, So at the end of the first

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Speaker 2: quarter they have minus one yard of offense. Then on

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Speaker 2: the first play of the second quarter, Lacey peels off

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Speaker 2: a seventy three yard touchdown something like that, maybe second

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Speaker 2: tudy fifty one yards field goal, eight punt, twenty nine

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Speaker 2: doing nothing. And then in the fourth quarter, Chambliss goes

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Speaker 2: with a hail Mary where listen, You're never gonna get

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Speaker 2: me to say you gotta throw the flag on that

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Speaker 2: hail Mary because it's basically full body contact in the

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Speaker 2: end zone with the game on the line. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I was actually out with Cowherd. We were watching the game,

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Speaker 2: pretty wild bar scene, a lot of old miss fans,

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Speaker 2: and as soon as the game ends, I high tail

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Speaker 2: it out of there. I didn't even wait. I just

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Speaker 2: How's that not a flag? Where's a flag? And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: You're never gonna get that. Then I look at the

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Speaker 2: actual replay when I get home and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I mean the Miami dB was literally grabbing him and

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Speaker 2: riding him from like the five into the middle of

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Speaker 2: the end zone. It was pretty blaite. That's as blayton

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Speaker 2: That was bad. Now I still don't think you throw

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Speaker 2: the flag, but anyways I do have to. I can't

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Speaker 2: believe I've gone three minutes and not even given Carson

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Speaker 2: Beck his props. Beck had a rough night. He was

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Speaker 2: leaving empty pockets. He was kind of short on some throws.

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Speaker 2: I didn't totally love his game, but when it mattered most,

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Speaker 2: there was a big time third and sixth conversion on

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Speaker 2: the final drive. There was a third and ten strike

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Speaker 2: that was huge. I mean, listen, I gotta give it

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Speaker 2: up to Beck man. He delivered in that game. And

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Speaker 2: then he had like the five yard TD runner with

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Speaker 2: interesting because I for Daniel Jeremiah. We spoke earlier in

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Speaker 2: the day, and as you'll hear, he believes Beck and

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Speaker 2: ty Simpson is a legit discussion for the number three quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And listen closely to the phrasing on ty Simpson. He

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Speaker 2: makes it sound like it'll be a surprise if Simpson

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Speaker 2: gets in the first round. And you know, Beck looks

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Speaker 2: the part. He's got a little more experience. He's a

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Speaker 2: little inconsistent. I don't know. He actually had a pretty

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Speaker 2: damn good game. The kid Fletcher the running back is tough.

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Speaker 2: Matlock I Tony the freshman, he's a superstar. He just

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Speaker 2: He's electrifying, So Miami advances. My guess is it'll be Indiana,

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Speaker 2: but I can't say that for sure. Honestly, I don't

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Speaker 2: is tough. We saw and I know people will hear that.

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Speaker 2: Oh come on, Jay, that's so cheesy. Okay, fine, Well,

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Speaker 2: Georgia beat Ole Miss and then the rematch lost. Last

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Speaker 2: be I don't want to be incorrect. But it is like,

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Speaker 2: it's a thing like the second meeting. And I know

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Speaker 2: you guys hay when I reference to a basketball team,

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Speaker 2: but if we lose the first meeting, we are absolutely

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Speaker 2: juiced up for the rematch, and it's like we're motivated,

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Speaker 2: they're less motivated. Yeah, Ohio State last year lost to

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Speaker 2: Oregon thirty two to thirty one, came back in the

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Speaker 2: playoff and beat them forty one to twenty one. Revenge

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Speaker 2: is a real thing, guys. It's it's obviously, it's not

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Speaker 2: an amazing handicapping angle, but it does mean something. You're

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Speaker 2: telling me. Oregon isn't spending any extra waking hours thinking

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Speaker 2: of handily. So I don't have anything on the game tonight. Now,

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Speaker 2: I do have a lot on the NFL games, But

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Speaker 2: let's get to Jenel Jeremiah NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports. I know

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Speaker 1: what sports fans want, but for everything he doesn't, he

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Speaker 1: knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome back to straight Fire. One of

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Speaker 2: the foremost draft experts NFL analysts out there, and we

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Speaker 2: got to get him. While we get we got a shot.

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Speaker 2: You know, he could be going to an NFL front

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Speaker 2: office any minute now. Danie Jeremiah, NFL Network does a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff with the Chargers ahead of their big

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Speaker 2: playoff game, DJ, how was your holiday?

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Speaker 4: Man? It was great. Man.

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Speaker 3: It's fun to have, you know, kind of family all together.

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Speaker 3: As my kids get older, they kind of start scattering

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Speaker 3: And it's been you know, for all the hand ringing

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Speaker 3: and then these college football playoffs have been I've enjoyed

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Speaker 3: the heck out of it. And every time I click

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, I don't know anybody who had this

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Speaker 2: nobody had Indiana Ole miss I'll ask you this. We're

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Speaker 2: real quick. Yeah, but it's one of those games where

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I don't want to say it's

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Speaker 2: like pretty cemented. Listen, we've seen More all season. He's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that would take a herculean effort

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Speaker 3: to has Mendoza clearly over him. But we've seen it

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Speaker 3: So you know, we'll see what happens there. I like

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Speaker 3: Dante More, I'm you know, to me, I think there's

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Speaker 3: a pretty good gap there though with Mendoza. I think

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Speaker 3: so I would be in that Mendoza camp, but hey,

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Speaker 3: a fact that'll be that's a block material stuff right there.

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Speaker 4: It'll be fun.

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Speaker 2: Coward's a big Vegas guy, so you know, Brady comes

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Speaker 3: But man, they've got some work do their Powell Like,

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Speaker 3: I've seen that job twice this year. There's not like

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Speaker 3: I always I always think it'd be like a fun graphic.

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Speaker 3: I've tried pushing this on the TV side of things,

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Speaker 3: which okay? Each job?

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Speaker 3: Like who are the key people on each bus? Like,

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Speaker 3: win it when something meaningful, these guys are still going

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Speaker 3: like four passengers on that thing. Like there's not a

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Speaker 4: They just don't have a lot of those guys.

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Speaker 2: So does that make it not really an attractive job?

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Baltimore is a great job. The New

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Speaker 2: damn good job. Arizona's got a lot of pieces. I

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Speaker 2: just and that division the Raiders playing, It's like, geez.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, you know, it's a good discussion.

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Speaker 3: To me, personally, I think I would rather have the

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Speaker 3: division's got three playoff teams. They are in a mess

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Speaker 4: The Raiders.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, the biggest problem any bad team has

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Speaker 3: is more than likely the quarterback position, and the Raiders

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Speaker 3: are at least positioned to solve that. So you can

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Speaker 3: come in, you get Francisco Mendoza. At least you have

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Speaker 3: that kind of pillar you can invest in, And to me,

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Speaker 3: I would invest solely on the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: I would hire my head coach, tell him when he

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Speaker 3: Ce's candy and say, I apologize. It's going to be

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Speaker 3: I think that decision to me that Hayes in the barn.

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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen inherited. You know, Trevor had his struggles, but

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00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,679
Speaker 3: that's a number one overall pick and that's a lot

432
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 3: of talent that he brings to the table there. So

433
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 3: you're seeing kind of there's the look at Caleb Williams.

434
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,120
Speaker 3: You know, Ben Johnson goes there and Caleb's really really talented.

435
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 3: So that's why jobs like Tennessee interests me because I

436
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 3: do think that there's still a lot of ability and

437
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 3: a young quarterback there that would be fun to build around.

438
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 4: It's why I've mentioned the giants.

439
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 3: You know, if they can keep Jackson Dart from getting

440
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 3: into violent collisions, I think he's got a chance to

441
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 3: be really, really good. That's what makes those two jobs

442
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 3: pretty interesting to.

443
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 2: Me, so to go to the draft and kind of

444
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 2: the giants. So when you put your tweet out there,

445
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 2: I was like kind of stunned, Like really, I didn't

446
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: see a ton from dark. But then you know, you

447
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 2: look at some of the advanced stats and he wasn't bad.

448
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 4: He had nobody, Jason, they had nobody, I know.

449
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 2: That's the thing. He lost, neighbors lost Skataboo, And it's like, okay,

450
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 2: so maybe there's something here, right, But then I hear

451
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 2: all this chatter, well, and it's probably from Joe Shane,

452
00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 2: who's trying to save his bacon.

453
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,120
Speaker 1: Well we could well, we're.

454
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 2: Gonna be looking at quarterbacks. You know, we were not

455
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 2: ruling out anything, and it just feels like a mixed message.

456
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 2: If Harbaugh takes that job, I think that's what most

457
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 2: people are predicting. He's probably gonna won his own GM, right.

458
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 2: I mean, Shane is the guy I believe who gave

459
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones that insane contract, punted on Saque. Obviously neither

460
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 2: of those worked out, but he didn't draft Dart, and

461
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 2: if memory serves not a lot of people had Dart

462
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 2: first round. I think you might have ended the first round.

463
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 4: I had him going to the Giants.

464
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 3: I don't remember where exactly it was in that first round,

465
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 3: but I had them trading up taking him. So I

466
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 3: mean he was in that range for me as a

467
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 3: player in terms of where I had him overall. I

468
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 3: think he was in the late twenties early thirties on

469
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 3: my overall list, So I didn't think it was a

470
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 3: reach by any stretch. But I think he showed enough promise.

471
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 3: I was in the building for his first start, and

472
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 3: I saw him kind of bring a lot of energy

473
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 3: and juice into that place. He's very athletic. I think

474
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Speaker 3: for all the love that Tyler Shuck has got for

475
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 3: how well he played down the stretch in the games

476
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: they won, I mean not to be a numbers dork,

477
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 3: but like pull up the numbers and put him side

478
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 3: by side with Jackson Dart. He comes out quite favorably.

479
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 3: It looks it looks very similar.

480
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 4: So I'm a believer in him.

481
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 3: I think to me, and and you watch, if Harbad

482
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 3: does get that job, which I still think that, you know,

483
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: that's a possibility. Miami is a very big possibility there

484
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 3: as well. If Harbad did take that job with the Giants,

485
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 3: the Harball way, which I've got a chance to learn

486
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 3: a lot more about being around Gym since he's come

487
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 3: to the Chargers, is he will come in the door

488
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 3: and he will say that that Jackson Dart is the

489
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 3: best player in the National Football League, and he will

490
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 3: just just just give him so much confidence.

491
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I've seen it.

492
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 3: I saw go back to Jim, going back to you know,

493
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: when everybody's been around, from Andrew Luck to Colin Kaepernick,

494
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 3: to JJ McCarthy to Justin Herbert, like they are very

495
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 3: effusive and and they and I think it's smart, you know,

496
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 3: like the worst thing you can do is be wishy

497
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 3: washy on a guy like I like him, but he

498
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 3: needs to prove himself, you know. That's like you got

499
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 3: to give him the full the full stamp. And I

500
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 3: think that's what you would see if you got that job.

501
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: But that's dangerous with Dart because as you as I'm

502
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 2: sure you can tell, you know, you got you know,

503
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: young kids, well not not that young, but uh, he's

504
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 2: got that aura. You know, everybody knows Jackson Dart's a

505
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: cool guy. He's on the scene dating the ig hotties,

506
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: you know, like that he's got a lot going on

507
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: if you pump him up even more, Like Justin Herbert's

508
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 2: a pretty pretty mild mannered guy. I don't Dart. You

509
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: see him at the podium. He really thinks his shit

510
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: doesn't stick.

511
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, I mean, but there's difference to do

512
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: it as a person versus a player. And and maybe

513
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 3: that's like, hey, this guy can be Maybe it's a

514
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: it's a combination of a belief, but a challenge of saying,

515
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: this guy has all the ability to be the best

516
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: player in the league, you know, the best player has

517
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 3: Like that's the type of things that that coaches do

518
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 3: is trying to feel like this is all out there

519
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 3: and capable for you. Now, we got to put in

520
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: the work and the thing that I have heard about

521
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 3: him for whoever he may be dating or whatever image

522
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: he may present at a podium, everything that I've heard

523
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: from guys have been around him at the college level

524
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 3: at two different schools and with the Giants, it's the

525
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 3: guy works his tail off, and obviously he's incredibly tough.

526
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: He needs a dial of toughness back a little bit

527
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 3: and stop trying to run guy over.

528
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, so last year you mentioned you nailed Dart. Tyler

529
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: Schuck I don't think anybody had in first in the

530
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: first round. I think the biggest shock was Shaduur, where

531
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: most people pegged his first round drops to the fifth.

532
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: Do you see any world where that happens to a

533
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: Ty Simpson, a Dante More obviously not Mendoza, But is

534
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: there a war where that happens, Because I mean, DJ,

535
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: I know you're looking at the quarterbacks and you haven't

536
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: analyzed all of them. I'm of the belief and this

537
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 2: is a hot take I have. I'm still work shopping,

538
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: but I think some of these middle round guys could

539
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: have value because they were overvalued back in August, like

540
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: nuss Meyer with a billion starts. I know he got benched.

541
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: Club Nick is the guy I'm really circling for the

542
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 2: Jets in like the fourth round, and I don't know

543
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: Drew Aller Penn state.

544
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: I know the numbers are there too. Yeah, let's talk

545
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: back as we're recording this. It's still alive with a

546
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 3: chance to win a national championship, which would be a

547
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 3: heck of a closing argument for a guy who started

548
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: a ton of games and like you look at his

549
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 3: numbers against quality opponents, Like, look, he was along for

550
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: the ride with some of those games at Georgia. But

551
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: he's been in the big stage and a lot of

552
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 3: big games and a lot of big moments. I know,

553
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: he's kind of been a popular punching bag. But you

554
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: look up and kind of watch him go on this

555
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: run with Miami, and he's he's made some plays that

556
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 3: the Texas A and m game wasn't great, but the

557
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 3: you know, the last playoff game that he was in,

558
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: he played pretty well. And we'll see how he finishes

559
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: up here, but I think he's in the mix at

560
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 3: least in that competition to be the third quarterback. Ty

561
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 3: Simpson is going to be an interesting one because I

562
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: had watched him, you know, early and saw some good

563
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 3: things and then played so poorly down the home stretch,

564
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: and so I made some calls to buddies at Alabama

565
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 3: and was like, you got to help me.

566
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: What am I missing here?

567
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 3: Like, I was very kind of surprised that he came

568
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: out like, well, look, he had a back injury, he

569
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: had a burst a sack injury on his elbow on

570
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: his throwing arm like late in the year, and he

571
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 3: was just trying to gut it out and play through that.

572
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 3: So that gives you a little bit of encouragement that

573
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 3: maybe that there's helps explain away some of the late

574
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 3: season play, but he hasn't started a ton of games,

575
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: and the lack of you know, the lack of a

576
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 3: resume and that regard has always been a little bit

577
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 3: of a red flag. So you know where we are

578
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: right now. This is January eighth, as we're recording this.

579
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: I would say it's a little bit of It would

580
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: be a little bit of an upset if he was

581
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: a first round pick, but it's a long time from

582
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: now till till April.

583
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I in my mock, I had the

584
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: Steelers going with ty Simpson, which doesn't feel like a fit.

585
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: I just think Rogers has done and my guess is

586
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 2: Tomlin moves on as well. There's a big reboot going

587
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 2: on there.

588
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: But there's love and by the way, there's some love

589
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: and the Steelers with the Steelers and wanting to see

590
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: what they have and Howard and Will Howard who they

591
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: picked later state Yeah, he's a big because look, I mean,

592
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: I've worked in that division for a couple of different teams.

593
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 3: It's it's a division where you need kind of a bigger,

594
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 3: more rugged quarterback. You think about Big Ben, you think

595
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: about Flacco. I mean, Burrows all day, tough, but he's

596
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: been he's been in and out of the lineup there.

597
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 3: It almost you know, Carson Palmer had a lot of

598
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 3: success there in Cincinnati during his run. It almost kind

599
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,120
Speaker 3: of requires one of these bigger, more physical guys.

600
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: You see fourteen of the sixteen and I'm sorry, twelve

601
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: of the fourteen NFL quarterbacks or first round picks the

602
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: only two that weren't hurtzing Purty. Do you think that

603
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: plays into the part in the draft room where it's like, listen, man,

604
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: the only guys who were making the playoffs are really

605
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 2: first rounders. After that, like what are we doing? And

606
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: again you're in draft rooms. Is that kind of a

607
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: just a weak statement, that twelve or fourteen or first

608
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: round picks.

609
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 3: No, I think it's pretty it's pretty telling, and I

610
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 3: think it's you know, damning whatever you want to say.

611
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: It's just the outcasts are the rarity to be able

612
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 3: to hit on a guy outside the first round and

613
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: haveing become what Brock Purty become.

614
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 4: We'll never see anything like that ever. Again.

615
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: The last pick of the draft, which Jalen hurts like,

616
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 3: those are the oddities. And you know the era where

617
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 3: we had before that, which was the Dak Prescott's, the

618
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins, the Russell Wilson's, we had a lot more

619
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: guys outside the first round. That doesn't happen anymore, and

620
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: I think that there's some different reasons for it. I

621
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: think one of the reasons is because of nil and

622
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 3: the transfer portal that these guys get identified at Joe Burrow,

623
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: who's not necessarily getting the opportunity he wants at Ohio State,

624
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 3: he goes to LSU and then ends up vaulting all

625
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: the way up all these guys who've transferred. Baker who

626
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: didn't you know, had to go where he needed to

627
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: go to get it done. Kyler to me, like those

628
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: guys would have been okay, he had to wait, he

629
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: only played his last year, or you know, okay, he

630
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 3: was kind of middle of the road. This is a

631
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 3: second we'll take a shot, and we see the ability,

632
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 3: but it's kind of a little bit of a gamble,

633
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 3: you know, third, fourth, fifth round pick. Well, now that

634
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: guy has gone to where he got his opportunity, there's

635
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: a lot more resume to go off of.

636
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 4: It's not as much.

637
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 3: You know, it's not Okay, well haven't played the same competition.

638
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: He's at an off the radar school, and that doesn't

639
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: happen anymore. Like, I don't think, you know, I just

640
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: don't think it's it's anything at all like what we've

641
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: had in the past, and the fact that these guys

642
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 3: can get paid now, I think you're seeing a lot

643
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: more guys stay longer, whereas we look at some of

644
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: the mistakes and the guys who haven't necessarily panned out,

645
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: you know, like Trey Lance would be a great example.

646
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: And in the height of the nil world right now,

647
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Speaker 3: in the portal world, you know, even I think he

648
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: was COVID. I think that was kind of a weird

649
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: situation because of COVID, But that would have been he

650
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: would have gone somewhere and made five million bucks in

651
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: the SEC and we would have got to see him

652
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: play for a couple more years, you know, so that those.

653
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: Might have been better.

654
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so we could.

655
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: We could kind of wind down this wide receiver room.

656
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I just I look at the

657
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: trenches and I feel like that's where the value is.

658
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: I wonder if that bumps down a Carnel Taite a

659
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: little bit a Jordan Tyson, Makai Levon. Does that bump

660
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: them down a little because the trenches are really what

661
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: we're seeing significant in the league with the two high

662
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: shell Now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you'll, I think those guys in our

664
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: you know, really highly rated players in this draft though,

665
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: So to me, you're gonna have a tough decision, you know,

666
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: because I think they're going to carry higher grades, higher

667
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: draft grades than some of these offensive linemen. But I

668
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: think the best decision to make for those young, you know,

669
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 3: young quarterback teams that are picking up there is going

670
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: to be to lean more towards that offensive line. So

671
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 3: maybe it pushes them down a little bit, But if

672
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 3: it does, you'll see a run on them and you'll

673
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: see him all go flying off the board because there

674
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: are some teams that are in the more the middle

675
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: portion of the draft who are in a little bit

676
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 3: better situation along that offensive line, and those guys are

677
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: just gonna be by far the highest rated guys. Yeah

678
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: and Jeremiah guy, by the way, plant my flag on

679
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: that kid.

680
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I so so in the twenties is too

681
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: low for Makayle Lemon.

682
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Speaker 3: I think that's to me, he's gonna he's not gonna

683
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: be on my when my top fifty list comes out

684
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks. He ain't gonna be in

685
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: the twenties. I can tell you that.

686
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: No, no, no, the top fifties certainly top like ten.

687
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: But I just meant, like for the Buffalo Bills, you

688
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: know that that would be anyways, wrap up up, Jeremiah Love.

689
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: You know we've seen Gibbs totally dominate in the league,

690
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: Bijon Robinson, obviously, Saquon, Christian McCaffrey. Running backs their value

691
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: seems to be back. But some of these guys like

692
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: they're going to ready made teams, Like Gibbs was a plugin.

693
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: Oh he doesn't need to carry the team. What do

694
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: you think that does for the Love handicap? Like, I

695
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: just I'm looking at these top like sixty. I don't

696
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: see a world where any of those could take a

697
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: running back in the top with their top pick.

698
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: Well, I think last year is a great exercise. You know,

699
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: you saw Ashton gent is a very talented player. And

700
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: the thing is people, you know, they they don't say

701
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: it properly in my opinion, because they say, oh ash

702
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: and gent prove that's why you don't take a running

703
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: back that high in the draft. And my argument to

704
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: that is no, no, no. This is like when I would

705
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: go to Sunday School when I was a kid and they.

706
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 4: Would do that.

707
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: You'd have they give you this big jar and then

708
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: they'd give you big rocks, little rocks, sand and water,

709
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: and they'd go, how do you fit all this stuff

710
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 3: into this jar? You know, it's kind of like how

711
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: do you fit? You know, you get your life organized

712
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 3: and put together, It's like, well, you got to get

713
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 3: the big rocks in first. If you put the sand

714
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: in there and the little rocks and the big rocks

715
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: don't fit, you've got to build it properly. Put the

716
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: big rocks in. Then you get the little rocks, and

717
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: you get the sand, and then you get the water

718
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: and you put fit it all in the jar. These

719
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: teams don't have offensive lines and they're drafting or running

720
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: back and their team's not ready to win. It's a

721
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: total waste of time. When you're Detroit and you've been

722
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: investing in your offensive line and you've got Deck and Piney,

723
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: Sewol and Glass. Now they got all those guys, Okay,

724
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: put it drop a running back in he explodes and

725
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: takes off all of a sudden. Now, I guess it's

726
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: smart to take a running back in the top fifteen's

727
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: that's the wrong way to frame that argument. It's you've

728
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: got to take care of the first things first and

729
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: then you can insert that guy. And the last thing

730
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: I'd say on the running backs, like jimk to me,

731
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: the goal should be we can all agree that their

732
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: careers are not long, right, that they're especially the prime

733
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: of their careers.

734
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Speaker 4: Is not long.

735
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Speaker 3: I don't want to waste one carry I want when

736
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: I take a running back, When I invest in a

737
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: running back in the draft, the clock starts and it's

738
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 3: four or five, six years, you know, for that prime,

739
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: I want the first carry I give him to matter.

740
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: I don't want him to take that first carry on

741
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: a three win team. That's a waste of time.

742
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: Totally agree, Good good stuff. Daniel Jeremiah will be at

743
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: Chargers Patriots and then he'll dig into the draft. Will

744
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: you be at the super Bowl obviously?

745
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

746
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: In Santa Clara, No, no, no.

747
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 3: I get to do the halftime show at NFL Network,

748
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: So I don't know who the halftime show is this

749
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: year on television. You could choose to watch that with

750
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: ninety nine point nine nine percent of the country, or

751
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: you could flip over and watch us where we do

752
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: not have access to show video highlights the first half.

753
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: You can watch us talk about the first half, though

754
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: that'll be some that'll be some studio or is your

755
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: family know this is me and Rhet Lewis. We knock

756
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 3: this thing out almost every year. You'd be shocked how

757
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: many people watch that thing. By the way, it actually

758
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: does quite well.

759
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 4: I think it's people that football.

760
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think it's some people that aren't like that,

761
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: Like the halftime entertainment isn't their cup of tea?

762
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 4: And I just want my football.

763
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: So hey, come on over, come on, you can show

764
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 3: any highlights. We're going to talk a lot about it.

765
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 4: I know who it is.

766
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: You know who the act is real quick. By the way,

767
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: are you still playing pick up basketball or no? Because

768
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: we got a spot on the team.

769
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: I would love to buddy.

770
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: I just shoot I Once the Achilles went down, it

771
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: was it became horse, horse and golf. So yeah, shooting

772
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: shooting horse and then go out.

773
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: There and play golf. I don't hurt myself, No, pickaball.

774
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: No, because I've talked to some some orthos, some team orthos,

775
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: and I'm like, hey, how is the what are the

776
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: pickleball injury situations here? Because that could be kind of funny.

777
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 3: Is like, I'm telling you, it's replaced like racquetball and soccer.

778
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: Is like we're getting tons of achilles coming through here.

779
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: We're playing pick the ball.

780
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 4: Be careful out there, buddy, I don't I know.

781
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm nervous. All right, man, Thanks a lot, having a

782
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: great year. We'll talk to you soon.

783
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 4: Bud Seybud.

784
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789
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Speaker 2: Great stuff from Daniel Jeremiah. He's super busy around the draft,

791
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: so I figured we'd try to get him in advance.

792
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: And I just love all the stuff that he says,

793
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: and we largely agree on a bunch of stuff. I'm

794
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: a little surprised he wasn't more pro harbaught to the Giants,

795
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,479
Speaker 2: but time will tell There's a lot of stuff going

796
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: on on social media about this Dolphins versus Giants tug

797
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: of war over harball. We'll see what happens. So I'll

798
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: just quickly buzz through games and tell you what I have. Obviously,

799
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: you guys are on the site. I noticed were getting

800
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: sign ups every day. I'm on the Rams pretty clearly. Now.

801
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 2: I was lucky. I got nine and a half. That's

802
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 2: long gone. It's up to eleven, ten and a half

803
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: still out there. I like the Rams Handley here. You

804
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: can read the write up. That's a big number to

805
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: cover on the road again. Another rematches. We talked about

806
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: Bears Packers. I'm on Green Bay, just on the money line,

807
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 2: not doing the spread because of these two have played

808
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: some interesting games. I will remind you guys in the

809
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: two meetings this year, Chicago hasn't led for a second

810
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: in two entire games against Green Bay. Okay, let's just

811
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: leave it at that. They had to walk off touchdown

812
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: in overtime. Buffalo Jacksonville nothing here, Honestly, I want to

813
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: tease Buffalo up. I have some Jacksonville money line parlays.

814
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: I think Jacksonville, but I only bet them first half

815
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: because Josh Allen could go Superman in the second half

816
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: and we've seen that act. I don't want to be

817
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: up in front of Josh Allen San Fran Eagles. I

818
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: gotta weight on the injuries for Trent Williams, but it

819
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: sounds like, no, pearcell, it's de Winter's the linebacker. What

820
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: an incredible stat So the Niners started Week one with

821
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: five linebackers on the roster, all of them are injured

822
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: and will not play all of them. Like, that's just crazy.

823
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: How do you how are you supposed to overcome that?

824
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 2: Let's see what Eagles is at Eagles is five. Yeah,

825
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: I'm on the Egles. I don't love five. Kind of

826
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: a dead number, and I'm a Brock Party fan. So

827
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: it's not a significant play. But I think the Eagles

828
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: win that game. Chargers Patriots, you know, I wrote this

829
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: one up, talked about it all week. I like the Chargers.

830
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: I got four, I got three and a half. I

831
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: have some money line. I'm on an under forty six.

832
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: Maybe I get burned. Finally, we could do Steelers Texans later.

833
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 2: It's weird. I'm seeing a lot of love for the

834
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: Steelers and it's all all the same stuff, and what

835
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: nobody really seems to be able to combat is how

836
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: the hell are the Steelers going to stop this pass rush?

837
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Houston essentially last week was playing I got

838
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: to check the box score, but their game didn't mean

839
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: a whole hell of a lot. Pittsburgh's in a war

840
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: against Baltimore. Bodies are dropping left and right, and it's

841
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: like you're supposed to bounce back from that. I just

842
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: I think Texans win this handle like a twenty three

843
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: to nine type game. Rogers is gonna have zero time

844
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 2: in the pocket. So let's see here. Last week Colts

845
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: beat the Texans. Stroud looks like he was pulled at

846
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: the at the half, Woody Mars was pulled. They ran

847
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: somebody named British Brooks. Nico Collins did not play. Yeah,

848
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: they were not burning their studs. I would. I think

849
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: Houston wins that handily. But we'll have plenty of time

850
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: to get to that Monday. All right, that's it. That's

851
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Speaker 2: a lengthy Friday podcast to take you into the weekend.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of football. Enjoy it, folks.