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Speaker 1: Welcome in to the Wednesday Bible Study. We are thankful

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Speaker 1: that you are here. We are continuing our study in

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Speaker 1: the book of Job. Job is actually is a book

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Speaker 1: that generates so many questions, but sometimes we just need

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Speaker 1: to say. And if you'll just stay with it, usually God,

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Speaker 1: going to talk more about that today and so much

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Speaker 1: application that you might not have expected in a book

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Speaker 1: like Job for our own lives and the things we

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Speaker 1: continue to struggle with, and talking about pain and suffering

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Speaker 1: and where God is and all this. We always open

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Speaker 1: up in a word of prayer. I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of you out there, you're drawn to this particular study

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Speaker 1: because you're looking for answers, You are struggling, and you're

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Speaker 1: asking the question sometimes where is God in these times

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Speaker 1: He's right in the middle of it. And we're going

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Speaker 1: to open up in a word of prayer. We are

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Speaker 1: going to say a special prayer for the blanking ships

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Speaker 1: who are connected to a lot of people. The men

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Speaker 1: that are actually in this room is they are facing

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Speaker 1: just a few more hours here on earth as husband

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Speaker 1: But they are spending their final moments together. So we'll

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Speaker 1: pray for that husband and that wife, and for that family,

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Speaker 1: and for all of you out there who have been

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Speaker 1: through similar or are going through similar things as we

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Speaker 1: open our study of chapter six today. Lord, thank you

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Speaker 1: for the opportunity to be together. Thank you Lord for

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Speaker 1: the fact that you also tell us that you are

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Speaker 1: in the middle of all these things, and you've taught

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Speaker 1: us to persevere and to trust and to have faith.

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Speaker 1: But you've also comforted us by reminding us in some

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Speaker 1: in places like Psalm thirty four, where you were us

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Speaker 1: that you are near to the broken hearted, and that

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Speaker 1: because of the sin of this world, until you return,

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Speaker 1: our bodies do deteriorate, they do give out. But you

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Speaker 1: have given us so much hope that ultimately you have

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Speaker 1: offered the healing that we all are seeking, both spiritually

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Speaker 1: all these things are resolved. Until then, we place our

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Speaker 1: faith only in you and pray that you'll be with

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Speaker 1: the blanken ships right now. Lord, in a special way.

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Speaker 1: They sense your presence close to them. It's so obvious

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Speaker 1: they do. And thank you for watching them live out

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Speaker 1: which you always intended marriage to be. And Lord, thank

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Speaker 1: you for our time together. Give us the discernment that

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Speaker 1: the glorious name of Jesus, we pray Amen. So Themanchurch

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Speaker 1: So let's go to Job chapter six. Now, last week

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Speaker 1: we've now started. The friends are now weighing in on

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Speaker 1: suffering like me. You're you're not in this, This is

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Speaker 1: give you're willing to give me all this advice. But

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Speaker 1: I'm not complaining for no reason. I'm not looking for

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Speaker 1: And frankly, you're not uh so uh He's saying, I'd

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Speaker 1: just like you would I would think in my same situation.

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Speaker 1: ultimately he seems to have some grasp. Now he doesn't

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Speaker 1: I'm just done with this whole situation. Moses actually becomes

429
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Speaker 1: so frustrated with the Hebrews he asked God to kill him.

430
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 1: Just take me out, Please, don't make me deal with

431
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: these people another day. Well, what you have here is

432
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,959
Speaker 1: Job getting to that too. If this pleases you, now,

433
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: this is important. He is not making the call. His

434
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: wife's already said, just curse God and kill yourself, and

435
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: Job will not do that, But he is asking God

436
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: to do it. And really, what he's saying is, in

437
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 1: my suffering, I don't want to continue on like this.

438
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: It would be pleasing to get the final peace of

439
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: my life being over. And the only reason why he

440
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: wants his life to be over is because this particular

441
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: suffering would end. I see. That's important, because you don't

442
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: don't let the adversary take you into despair, because there

443
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: are times some of you you have already had these times.

444
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: If not, I hope you don't. But you may have

445
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: these times where the situation you're in is so miserable

446
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: that you're thinking death would be so sweet. Not because

447
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: you're not thinking about what you're doing to your family,

448
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: You're not thinking about what you're doing to your ministry.

449
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: You're getting to the point where you're just telling God,

450
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: this would be the best thing for me, just because

451
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: it's the best thing for us. Does it mean it's

452
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: the best thing for the kingdom. Does it mean it's

453
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: the best thing for your family, Does it mean it's

454
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: the best thing for your ministry? Okay, be careful with that,

455
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: but I do understand it. I mean I've had things

456
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: that were nothing like this that in the moment, And

457
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: one of the worst ones is physical agony, you know,

458
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: where you're just like, man, I can't get comfortable, I

459
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: can't get still, I can't sleep, I am in excruciating pain.

460
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: And you have to be real careful of cutting any

461
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: deal you can just to get the pain stop. And

462
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you have to say, if God's allowing

463
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: the pain to go on, let me learn from it.

464
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Speaker 1: I may have mentioned this before, I'll mention it again.

465
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Speaker 1: This is not I'm not the person to stand on

466
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Speaker 1: what you should and shouldn't do, But I will just

467
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: tell you this is that when my wife, it was

468
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: in the excruciating agony of all she saw, all she

469
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: went through in that horrific event, people were offering her

470
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Speaker 1: comfort to kind of give her some relief, and she

471
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: turned it down. I do not want any drugs. I

472
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: don't want anything like that. I want to feel every

473
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: bit of this. Do not deny me feeling this. I

474
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Speaker 1: don't want to be numb to it. I don't want

475
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Speaker 1: to be comforted that way. I want to be comforted

476
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: by God. I want to be comforted by the discipline

477
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: and the refinement of this. Do not rob me of that. Now.

478
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: Is that me saying that if you do that, somehow

479
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: you're I'm not saying that. I'm just saying I understood

480
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: her point and I think it's a valid point. Doesn't

481
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: mean I'm saying if you don't do that, you're wrong.

482
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: But because sometimes people do need something to help them

483
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: get through so they can survive it, I just want

484
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: you to know, for her, I thought that was a

485
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: pretty solid point, made a lot of sense. It would

486
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: been really easy to say, hey, just knock her out,

487
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: but she said, oh no, no, no, that's the last

488
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: thing I want. I don't want to miss any of this.

489
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: So this job is asking for that kind of relief.

490
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: But he is saying that God is the one who

491
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: makes the call if it pleases God. What as I say,

492
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: your will be done? Right? That's her takeaway right there?

493
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: What did Jesus tell us? You can go ahead and

494
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 1: make plans, and you go ahead and say you want

495
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: to do things, but remember to put in and ultimately,

496
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: if it be your will this I want to be

497
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: in your will. I mean, I've gone as far now.

498
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: Jesus has taught me that it probably gets on people's nerves.

499
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: And I hope they don't think I'm being sanctimonious. I'm

500
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: really not. It's just who I am. Now. I'll say

501
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: things like I've said it today. Next weekend, Lord Willing

502
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: sharing I'll be in Missouri and we'll do a marriage conference.

503
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't know whether we'll be there

504
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: or not. Only the Lord knows that that's our plan.

505
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: If the Lord allows us, we'll be there and I'll

506
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: do things like Lord Willing will talk tomorrow because that's

507
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: what Jesus said to do. Because I don't know about y'all.

508
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: I've seen enough that that's not always a given right.

509
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: And Jesus reminded us that. Now, Jesus didn't say don't plan.

510
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: He just said, be careful making all these plans. Be

511
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: sure you say if the Lord allows, that's what I'm

512
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: gonna do, because it may not be what he allows.

513
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: So Joe does have that right. And then he gets

514
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: to the point where you just talked about it, brother,

515
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: where it kind of your heart kind of breaks, because

516
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: he said, I don't know what God thinks I'm made of.

517
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: But you know, one of the things that I love

518
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: about this, it's hopelessness that he's running into. But I

519
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: love when he finally says these lines because I want

520
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: us not to be bothered by this. I want this

521
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: to actually comfort be comforted by this. What is my

522
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: strength that I should wait? What is my end that

523
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: I should be patient? Is my strength? The strength of

524
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: stones are in my flesh, bronze? Why much does he

525
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: think I can take? And that's the thing where job

526
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: is getting a little off base. It's the thing if

527
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: you've probably learned it, have you been through it. I

528
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: had to learn it. No, that's not the point. The

529
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: point is God is trying to drive us to the

530
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: point that we finally stop depending on our own strength.

531
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: We realize we don't have it, which means it has

532
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: to be you, God, because I can't do this. I

533
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: can't carry it this way. So no job. God doesn't

534
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: think you're strong enough to do it. He doesn't. He

535
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: knows how strong you are, so he's taking you beyond

536
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: that strength so that you then turned totally to him.

537
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, once you do, that is

538
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: a sweet place to be. Now you fighting claud getting there,

539
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: but it's a sweet place to be because our first

540
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: reaction is I got to be strong, and there's nothing

541
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: wrong being strong. We could use more strong men, okay.

542
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is God loves us enough to

543
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: get us beyond our own strength, and that's okay because

544
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: He steps in and fills that void, and you realize

545
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: then that the problem may may not have been you

546
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: weren't strong enough. You've got plenty of strength. The problem

547
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: is sometimes we're not weak enough, and He knows that,

548
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: so he puts a burden on us so heavy we

549
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 1: don't even have choice, and that's where job is. And

550
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: he's asking how strong do you think I am? He knows,

551
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: and he's gonna get you to the end of it.

552
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: So now we get down to thirteen, where he says,

553
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: have I any help in me when resources? When resource

554
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: is driven from me? You know what he says, I

555
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: can't do it anymore. I have exalted, exhausted all my resources.

556
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes we exalt them too, I think, but I have

557
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: exhausted all my resources. If I'm gonna live through this,

558
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna be by me, right, that's where he's

559
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: taking us. Okay, so that's been done. So now he's

560
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: done with this. Okay, he's done with this, and he's

561
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: asked all these rhetorical questions, and he knows the answer

562
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: to all these rhetorical questions is what no or none.

563
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: It's no. He's come to the end of himself. I

564
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: don't have it, I can't do it. It was all rhetorical,

565
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: but all the answer he knew was no or none. Okay. Well,

566
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: now now he's gonna turn to his friends and he's

567
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: gonna say, disappointed in you, y'all heard my laments, You've

568
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: heard where I am. I'm gonna let you know that

569
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed in you. You ever been there, you ever

570
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: looked up? Here come your friends and the very thing

571
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: you need they don't bring. And he's disappointed, and he's

572
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: starting to say, have you guys really been any help

573
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: to me at all? And he starts in fourteen and

574
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: he says, he who withholds kindness from a friend forsakes

575
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: the fear of the almighty. Ooh, I tell you the

576
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: way y'all behave, And I don't think y'all representing God

577
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: at all. You may be representing yourselves, but you don't

578
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: sound like you're representing him. He saying, have you really

579
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: helped me? And then he goes on to describe, here's

580
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 1: how much help you've been to me. My brothers are

581
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: treacherous as a torrent bed of torrential streams that pass away,

582
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: which are drink with ice where the snow hid itself.

583
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: When they melt, they disappear when it's hot, they vanish

584
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: from their place. Wow, he starts out, and he says,

585
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: I tell what you guys are. You're kind of like

586
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: a desert stream. Storm comes, everything fills up, everybody's got water.

587
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: Everything looks great. But when that sun comes back out,

588
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: things get a little hot, things get a little bit miserable.

589
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: Apparently y'all just dry right up. You know what he's

590
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: saying is, Yeah, yeah, y'all are great as long as

591
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: everything's going well. But once I start having trouble, do

592
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: y'all not much help? You're not providing anything for me. Well,

593
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. If you've ever been through it,

594
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: trust me on this one. And I know I can

595
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: see the faces and I can't imagine the stories out there,

596
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: Okay that are listening and watching it. It's very interesting,

597
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: isn't it. When difficult times come, you kind of have

598
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: a delusional number of how many friends you think you have.

599
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: The number is too big because when it gets down

600
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: to it, that number gets real small when you're when

601
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: you're in the valley and you're struggling. You can gather friends.

602
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: When times are good, you got friends everywhere. Everybody wants

603
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: to go the ball game, everybody wants to go to

604
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: the restaurant, everybody wants to get in the fund zone.

605
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to get together. But you start being a

606
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: killjoy with your disease, your dead kid, your battle will,

607
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: your daughter, and then before you know it. You're just

608
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: not that much fun to be around anymore. And you

609
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: look around and those numbers begin to get kind of small.

610
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: And then God forbid that you need people to defend you.

611
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: You want me to get in the middle of this

612
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: battle you're in and then have these people mad at

613
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: me too. I'll pray for you a long way from here,

614
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: but know that I'm praying those that get in there

615
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: and get dirty with you. It's a small number, and

616
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: that really shouldn't surprise us. And again, we shouldn't just

617
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: look at it from the person who's struggling when somebody

618
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: else struggling. Are we the ones that fade? We don't

619
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: like to get our hands dirty. We don't want to

620
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: be in the middle of this. This is uncomfortable, This

621
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: isn't fun. I don't really want to sit here all

622
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: day at the hospital. I don't want to cry anymore

623
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: with you. This is sad in here. But and I

624
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: understand that I do. But that's exactly what job is saying.

625
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: I guess we're only friends when I'm doing what y'all

626
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: want me to do. Now. When I had the money,

627
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: being friends with me was fun. Now that I got

628
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: nothing and all my kids have been killed, and my

629
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: wife's upset, and I've got disease all o me and

630
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: I'm hard to look at. You aren't being very helpful now,

631
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: and so he is. He's throwing that at him, and

632
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: he says, so here's how you respond. Look at the

633
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: next few verses. He says, the caravans turn aside from

634
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: their course. They go up into the waste and perish.

635
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: He says, the caravans of Tima Luke, the travelers of

636
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: Sheba Hope. They are ashamed because they were confident. They

637
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: come here and they're disappointed. You have now become nothing.

638
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: You see my calamity, and you're afraid. Have I said,

639
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: make me a gift, or from your wealth, offer a

640
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: bribe for me, or deliver me from the ad series hand,

641
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: or redeem me from the hand of the ruthless? What

642
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: if I asked you for haven't? I haven't asked you

643
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: for anything. Everybody was all excited about the trip and

644
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: all about the caravan, but when they got there and

645
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: they saw calamity, nobody wanted any part of it. I

646
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: have not asked you for anything tangible. I've not even

647
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: asked you for protection from my enemies. I haven't asked

648
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: you for anything. What could y'all possibly be upset about?

649
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: That would be different if I called y'all here and

650
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: asked you to bail me out, or I called you

651
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: here and asked me to give me some money, or

652
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: I've called you here and said go find the people

653
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: that stole my stuff. I haven't done any of that.

654
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: I haven't asked you for anything. I just asked you

655
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: to come be with me. I just asked you to

656
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: and I didn't even ask you that. You showed up

657
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: on your own, you decided to come here. What complaint

658
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: do you really have against me? Why would you you

659
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: treat me this way? What have I ever done to

660
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: you that deserves this? And that's what he wants to know,

661
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: And it's it's a good question, it's a it's a

662
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: hard question. It's a difficult moment. So then now that

663
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: he said that, I've looked up. I've never needed anything

664
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: from you, never, And now that I do, you present

665
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: me with empty hands. Have you ever been through that

666
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: where you're like, I never asked you for anything, and

667
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: now I've made a request for some just some comfort,

668
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: nothing tangible, none of your money, none of your protection.

669
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: And I can't even I can't even get that from you.

670
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: Probably a disappointing day for job. And then this is

671
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: the thing I've kind of been through some of this recently.

672
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: Make your accusation. You keep saying there's an accusation. You

673
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: keep saying I've done something wrong, but you won't tell

674
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: me what it is. I mean, I couldn't. I couldn't even,

675
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: Like I said, I told you the other day, I

676
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: had somebody who claimed to be some sort of I

677
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: guess he is. I don't doubt it, some pastor that

678
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: was calling me out and saying I need to repent.

679
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: And then when I I guess he didn't realize I

680
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: could see his phone number on the text line, which

681
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: I thought was cowardly. I mean, why not reach out

682
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: to me? You know, I noticed that this pastor must

683
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: have studied all the Bible except Matthew eighteen. He must

684
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: have skipped that. But but I said, of course, I

685
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: didn't take long telling him that. But I said, but

686
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: I said, where was the initial contact to me personally?

687
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: Where was the personal reach out? My email is readily available.

688
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: We can start there. And now I'm talking to you

689
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: on my phone. You have my phone. Where was the

690
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: reach out. I have a problem with you. I would

691
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: like to address it. And then if I don't give

692
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: you a satisfactory answer, which I would have, then you

693
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: got some other people and then y'all all come to me,

694
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: my brothers and say, our brother asked you. We didn't

695
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: like your answer. Do you have a new answer. Tell

696
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: us what's going on here. Here's our accusation, here's where

697
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: we think you're in sin that didn't happen. And I said,

698
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: and then if I won't repent and there's obvious sin

699
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: and I'm still being rebellious, then you take it out

700
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: to a public platform and you say, we have a

701
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: problem with this man because he's done this sin. We've

702
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: confirmed he's done this sin and he will not repent

703
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: of it. But you didn't do any of that. And

704
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: I said, so tell me what it is I need

705
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: to repent of. Well, I don't want to get into

706
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: all that. I guess it's really none of my business.

707
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: Well no, I mean you just publicly and said you

708
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: sent me something that said I need to repent. So

709
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: what do I need to repent of? And this is

710
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: what job is now going to do. And by the way,

711
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: if you're calling someone to repent us and you don't

712
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: know why shut up? Okay, I mean you kind of

713
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: need to have that part. Can't just be the way

714
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: you feel. I mean you have to know I just

715
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: feel like you've done something wrong. Well, that's not going

716
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: to do it. You've got to actually point to the

717
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: fact that someone's done something wrong right. You can't just

718
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: feel it or think it or wonder it. Something's not

719
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: right here. I don't like the way this feels. No,

720
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: you go to somebody and say, hey, brother, this has

721
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: bothered me, tell me what happened here, and you may

722
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: get an answer that you go, well, I really am concerned,

723
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: or you might, bizarrely, like yesterday with another person, get

724
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: the explanation and apologize. Okay, So but you're supposed to

725
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: go find out that that's the whole thing. So now

726
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: job is saying, Okay, if this is the way y'all feel,

727
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: tell me, why teach me what I've done wrong? Look

728
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: what he says next, Teach me and I'll be solid.

729
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: Make me understand how I have gone astray. That's that's

730
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: a legitimate statement right there. You're upset with me, and

731
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: he's not just talking to elafa as he's talking to

732
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: all three of them, because apparently he must see the

733
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: look on their faces. He must say bill a dad

734
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: ready to go? Okay, And by the way, this has

735
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: no impact on him. By the way, he's still fires

736
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: right in there. But anyway, he says, I want to

737
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: know what I've done. I want you to point out

738
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: the sin I've done. This caused God to do this.

739
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: If God's punishing me, show me why this is punishment

740
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: and not just something else. I can't find the sin.

741
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what I've done, but you seem to know,

742
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: So why don't you tell me? Absolutely that's what we

743
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: should say, And there's no need to be arrogant about

744
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: it in a jerk about it. You can see I

745
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: got a little frustrated about it. But that's not the

746
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: way I started. I started with this person saying, hey, brother,

747
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: you got to complain against me, tell me what it is,

748
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: and let's deal with it. You know, and maybe maybe

749
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: there's something you can tell me, maybe I'm missing something.

750
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: But when they wouldn't do that, then you now have

751
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: lost our credibility. Okay, you got to have that information.

752
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: If not, you're just a gossip. Okay. So and that's

753
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: what he wants to know. Point to me where y'all

754
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: come to this conclusion? All right? And then he goes

755
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: into twenty five How how forceful are upright words? But

756
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: what does reproof from? You reprove? What are you reproofing me? Up?

757
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: Give me some honest words. Okay. If you guys have

758
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: got this and you're upright and you're right with God

759
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: and I'm not, then you should have some honest words

760
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: for me. If you're going you're giving, you seem to

761
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: be reproving me. I'd like to know what I'm being

762
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: reproved for. Right. That's fair. Again, we may find out

763
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: that we deserve the reproof, but you've got to be

764
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: able to point it out. Okay. And so he's asking

765
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: them right now, it seems like you're upset, but you

766
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: haven't been specific about what you're upset about. You're making

767
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: an accusation, Ela Fast you were a little passive aggressive

768
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: of course, the comment about my kids. Wow. But but

769
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: he's saying, you got to your point. I see what

770
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: you're saying. Come on out with it, right am I

771
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: The only man in the world just wants somebody to

772
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: get to the point. Come on out with it. Let's

773
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: have this discussion. I had someone say to me yesterday, Well,

774
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: sometimes you come across like you enjoy conflict. I said no, No,

775
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: I despise conflict. I'm just willing. I'll get in the conflict,

776
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: but I don't like it. I don't like having hard conversations.

777
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: I hate it as much as anybody. I'm just willing

778
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: to I'm also willing to receive a hard conversation. But

779
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: what I don't like is when people get upset and

780
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: they get all passive aggressive and they talk around something

781
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: and they won't come to it. Let's talk about it.

782
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: Let's get it out there. And if I've given you

783
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: the opportunity and you don't take it, then I'm done

784
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: with it. Don't run off and go tell somebody else.

785
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: When I had you sitting right in front of me

786
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: and I said, here, I am any complaint you want

787
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: to make against me, now's the time. And if somebody

788
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: takes a pass on that and then runs off and

789
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: it's still mad somewhere else, then that's on them, right,

790
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: because that's not the way we handle things, and we

791
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't do that to other people either. If you've got

792
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: a problem with somebody, tell them. You have to be

793
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: mean to be a jerk about it. But if you

794
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: don't want to talk to them about it, then don't

795
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: talk about it at all. Right, So that's what he say.

796
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: I want you guys to tell me exactly what you

797
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: think I've done twenty six? This is good? Do you

798
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: think that you can reprove words? When the speech of

799
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: a despairing man man is win? Can you really disprove

800
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: anything I've said? And now, now this is a shot

801
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: at aliphaz here when he's talking about wind, he is saying,

802
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: you just gave me a bunch of wind? Is what

803
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: you were? Okay, you are a big bag of win.

804
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: That's what you are. You didn't do anything, but if

805
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: you talked around this thing. So what I want you

806
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: to do is I want you to say, right now, job,

807
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: everything you just said to us about your complaint is

808
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: nothing against God. Is just somebody who's miserable. You know.

809
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: I'd like to also know you claim I've committed to sin?

810
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: So what is it at this point? If you can't

811
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: tell me that or disprove what I just said, You're

812
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: just a bag of wind. That's really what he's saying.

813
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: And Elafa has had a lot of really beautiful words,

814
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: but he never really got there. Bill a dad will.

815
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: So anyway, he says, in twenty seven, now he starts

816
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: taking on the character a little bit. You would even

817
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: cast lots over the fatherless and bargain over your friend,

818
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 1: little little character attack. Now, now job's getting upset. He said,

819
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: you know what you are. You're cruel. You're just cruel people.

820
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you come down here and you speak to

821
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: me the way you speak to me, and frankly, frankly,

822
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: it's cruel. So then he says, and then we continue.

823
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: It continues on, and he says, but now be pleased

824
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: to look at me, for I'm not gonna lie to

825
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: your face. So he's let them know that he doesn't

826
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: like the way they've handled it. He finds what they're

827
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: doing to be cruel. Now he's going to say in

828
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: the last few verses, now he's going to say, I'd

829
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: like some understanding. I'm begging you for some understanding here.

830
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: So he gets in twenty eight and he says, now,

831
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: please look at me. I'm not gonna lie to your face.

832
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the truth, but you got to ask

833
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: me what you want to ask me. You've got to

834
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: point out what you think I've done, and I'll tell

835
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: you the truth about it. I might own it. Have

836
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: you ever had somebody come to you and say, I

837
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: really think you're wrong on this, and even in the

838
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: beginning you thought I don't know about that, let me hear.

839
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: And then they finish, you're like, now, you're right, I

840
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: messed that up. You're right, I didn't see it that way.

841
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: He says that if you'll just tell me, I might

842
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: agree with you, but you got to be able to

843
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: tell me. So then he says, please turn, let no

844
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: injustice be done. Turn now my vindication is at stake. Now.

845
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: This is an interesting moment here in twenty eight and

846
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: going into twenty nine. There seems to be some realization

847
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: right now by Job that maybe he's been a little

848
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: harsh that his response you see him trying to take

849
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: it down a little bit. You ever had some elevate

850
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: and you start trying to take the heat of the

851
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: room down a little bit. Now, Now Job's kind of like, Okay,

852
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm really upset now, y'all hurt me Adler has said

853
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: this before, or even in a joking way on the show.

854
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: Hurt people. Hurt people, You know, when somebody's hurt, then

855
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: they hurt other people. And so he is I think

856
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: he's realizing now things have elevated a little bit. And

857
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: that's when he says, man, I'll tell you the truth.

858
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: And then he says in twenty nine, I want you

859
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: to face me. Now, what does this tell us? They

860
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: must not be they must have their heads down those

861
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: we're looking at the ground. You ever been in one

862
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: of those situations or something in the conference room, or

863
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: something in the office, or something at home. Things got

864
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: out of hand, Things are starting to elevate, and you

865
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: find yourself just kind of looking down, just kind of

866
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: wanted to be over. Oh wow. And so he's trying

867
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: to now connect back to them. Hey, y'all, look at me.

868
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: You ever had to do that. You ever had your

869
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: parents tell you that, look at me, don't turn away

870
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: from me, look at me. You ever told your kids

871
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: that look at me? You ever had somebody in authority

872
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: say look at me. So job is saying, everybody, get

873
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: your eyes up, now, look at me. Let's take it

874
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: down a little bit. Turn that no injustice be done.

875
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: Turn now look at me. If you look at the

876
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: actual word here, you'll see that's really more. What he's saying,

877
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: my vindication is at stake. Let's relent all this. I

878
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: ask you to relent the charges against me. You're charging

879
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: me with evil. I asked that you relent that charge.

880
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: Let's not do it that way. Okay. One of us

881
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: I love this is wrong here. It's either me or you.

882
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: But we're in disagreement. You say I've done something wrong

883
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: that has caused God to punish me. I disagree with

884
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: that accusation. You haven't pointed out what it is. So

885
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: if you do, I may find out that I'm wrong.

886
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: But one of us is wrong here, and he says, so,

887
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: we got to deal with this right now. I honestly,

888
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: if you ever had this, ever ever had to say this,

889
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: or had somebody say it to you, I honestly do

890
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: not see the accusation you're making. I don't see it. Now.

891
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: Maybe you can clarify that, but I gotta have you

892
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: do that. I don't see it. Don't think I'm figuring

893
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: it out. Have you ever had to tell somebody we

894
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: all love this, we all love this, this man and

895
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: woman thing. But I have had to say to my wife,

896
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: who is a wonderful, powerful woman, I don't know who

897
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: told y'all that men can figure out what y'all what

898
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: y'all mean? I really wish you'd just tell us. Okay,

899
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: if there's something that you need, or something you want,

900
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: or correction you'd like to see me make, just say it.

901
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: I know you think I'm gonna figure this out. I'm

902
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: just not. I don't see it. I'm not tracking, and

903
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: so just tell me, right, And that's really what job

904
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 1: is saying. If y'all think that I'm supposed to figure

905
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: it out whatever you're saying, I haven't figured it out.

906
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: So why don't you just face me and tell me?

907
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: And let's stop with all these accusations. Just tell me,

908
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: stop with the passive aggressive stuff. Just say it so

909
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: then he finishes for our study this week? Is there

910
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: any injustice on my tongue? Cannot my palate discern the

911
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: cause of calamity? This is that big one I thought

912
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: y'all knew me. Do y'all really think that I can't

913
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: discern where I'm wrong? If I'm in sin? Right? Now?

914
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: Have I lived that way? I seem like that guy?

915
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: Remember God called him blameless and upright, and apparently that's

916
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: how everybody else should have seen him right, if that's

917
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: how God saw him, and he's really asking them what

918
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: happened to my integrity? Here? Where was my benefit of

919
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: the doubt? Where was boy? God's doing something to Job.

920
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: But it can't be because he sins, because we know Job.

921
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't think Joe would have sinned against God to

922
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: cause this. That doesn't sound like him. Now we may

923
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: find out because some times we were not consistent. We

924
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: do things we normally wouldn't do. But Joe said, I

925
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: don't see y'all even considering that. Have I said anything

926
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: wicked or unjust? Have y'all seen me as some sinful man?

927
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: Point out what I've done? And he said, and this

928
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: is what he says. If you can't point out what

929
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: I've done, then my integrity we have to fall back

930
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: to that. True. This is that thing where I start thinking,

931
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: what would people think about us? I wonder if we

932
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 1: get the benefit of that. I wonder if we've lived

933
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: our lives in such a way that if somebody makes

934
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: an accusation, not people who don't know us, because we

935
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't expect them to know, that doesn't count. I'm not

936
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: talking about strangers. I'm not talking about acquaintances. I'm talking

937
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: about the people that spend time with us, the people

938
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: that know us, the people like these three are supposed

939
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: to be, that are our closest friends. If someone made

940
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: an accusation about us, have we lived in such a

941
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: way in those real friendships which are few, and those

942
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: real friendships where our friends would say, I don't think

943
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: that's true. I'll find out. I'll go ask him. But

944
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: I am not going to jump into this bashing of

945
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: him until I talked to him directly and the and

946
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: I know him well enough to know that your accusation

947
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: against him or her doesn't sound right until I hear different.

948
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: Their integrity stands until I hear it from them. And

949
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 1: that's really what he's asking, Why have we not gone

950
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: that way? And he's hurt, But but he's not. He's

951
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: not passive. He is making the heat. He's he they

952
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: they want to make some accusations against him, And since

953
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: they're not asking the questions that he thinks they should

954
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: ask and be direct, He's gonna sure ask them some.

955
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: And and I gotta think right now, it's it's a

956
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: pretty uncomfortable little ash heap they're sitting in. UH. And

957
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: so we come back UH, you're gonna get a little

958
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: more from Job next week and that'll probably take up

959
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: all next week. And then the Bill Dad's coming in

960
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: and Bill Dad will go ahead and do what he's

961
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: asked eliphas to do, and he'll get right to it,

962
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: and he's gonna he's just gonna call Job to repentance

963
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: and it's it's ugly. Uh. But next week we won't

964
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: do that. I don't think we have enough time to

965
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: do both of those, but we will. We will finish

966
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: Job's final response to eliphas and really all three of them.

967
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: And then week after Wednesday, Lord willing, Bill Dad will

968
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: have his way and we'll learn something from him too.

969
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: Uh and uh, he's handful, so so look forward to that.

970
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: So let's uh, let's close in prayer. Lord, thank you

971
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: for today, thank you for these these difficult questions that

972
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: we have to ask ourselves. Is again, we're moving through

973
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: this study where we're putting ourselves in the position of Job.

974
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: We can some of us can relate there and and

975
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: but there's been times where we've been the friends and

976
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: we got to look at that and see how we

977
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 1: how we handle that and assess ourselves on either side.

978
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: Thank you for this incredible documentation, and how wonderful it

979
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: is to continue to get to know you, because the

980
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: more we know you, the more we love you, and

981
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: the more we love you, the more we obey you.

982
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: And Lord, I pray that you just crush any resistance

983
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: we have, and our flesh that is still against you,

984
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: refine us and to people you can trust in your

985
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: holy name, we pray Amen. Thank you very much