Speaker 1: It's nine O gene one Engine with Jenny Garth and
Speaker 1: Tory spelling.
Speaker 2: You guys. This episode it's a touchy one.
Speaker 1: It was a sensitive episode, by the way, welcome to
Speaker 1: do it and mean everyone.
Speaker 2: Hi, I don't even know how to be light in
Speaker 2: fun about it. It's just like just dive in or
Speaker 2: just deep.
Speaker 1: Yes, this week's was a it was a tear jerker
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 3: It was handled well. I think. I mean, he's really good.
Speaker 1: He's so talented, like so vulnerable. His acting is so vulnerable.
Speaker 1: That is good to see. Like, I don't know these
Speaker 1: two characters together, like we talked about it before. I
Speaker 1: think they do really well together. And I just remember
Speaker 1: taking that finish that end picture with.
Speaker 3: Him m hm oh in the bed when he's in
Speaker 3: the bed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was just oh no, very special moment.
Speaker 3: There's another episode with that.
Speaker 2: He comes back. I know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, next week, he's back next week. Okay, good.
Speaker 1: I just feel like sometimes the lines get blurred when
Speaker 1: you're playing a character and you're talking to another actor
Speaker 1: who's playing a character. Sometimes that other actor is the
Speaker 1: character to you in I'm not sure if I'm explaining
Speaker 1: it right, yeah, but for me, he was Jimmy.
Speaker 3: I get that he really really became him because I
Speaker 3: even knew him from Blossom, and I'm completely forgetting about Blossom, Like.
Speaker 1: How did he win this role? Because it was a
Speaker 1: meaty one.
Speaker 2: I mean he was definitely offered it, right, Don't you
Speaker 2: think he was a big guy?
Speaker 3: I would think so after Blossom, I mean he I
Speaker 3: would think he's huge. Yeah. So what's interesting is so
Speaker 3: because we sort of talked about this off air a
Speaker 3: little bit on air, right, trying to sort of understand
Speaker 3: the timeline of what was going on with the AIDS
Speaker 3: HIV crisis at this time. So I, not realizing Tori
Speaker 3: that your dad made this movie, thought oh, I'm going
Speaker 3: to rewatch and the band played on to refresh my memory,
Speaker 3: so I, you know, start streaming it and I literally
Speaker 3: was shocked. And I know we've talked about it before,
Speaker 3: but that your dad produced and the band played on,
Speaker 3: which is obviously one of the reasons he wrote this,
Speaker 3: you know, or wanted them to have this storyline online
Speaker 3: on two and zero such an important right thing.
Speaker 2: It was a very important topic to him.
Speaker 3: So what made it so important to him? Do you remember?
Speaker 2: I don't remember that part? I know that he loved
Speaker 2: tackling topics that people were scared to tackle at the
Speaker 2: time and doing it. And I just know this was
Speaker 2: something that was so big. I mean he implemented in
Speaker 2: Melrose Place. Yeah, and the band played on. I mean
Speaker 2: you and I talked about it a little bit, but
Speaker 2: that was such an important project him because he wanted
Speaker 2: to do it as a mainstream project, and it was
Speaker 2: originally set up an NBC and NBC I think because
Speaker 2: there had just been the Rock Hudson story. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think it was on ABC. They were scared to do
Speaker 2: a mini series on AIDS, so they pulled out of
Speaker 2: it last minute. And that's when my dad took it
Speaker 2: to HBO, which at the time HBO wasn't doing like
Speaker 2: movies and stuff. I think they had dream on that series.
Speaker 2: You remember that, you guys, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 2: so this was new for them, but he knew that
Speaker 2: probably the only place to get it made would be Cable.
Speaker 3: Well, I love the story that you told me because
Speaker 3: I started texting Tory when I was watching it because
Speaker 3: I don't know how, I just didn't realize it was
Speaker 3: your dad was that he sort of didn't love boat.
Speaker 3: He took what he learned from Love Boat, which was
Speaker 3: you tell it, you tell it right.
Speaker 2: So his theory, you know, with love Boat always having
Speaker 2: big star cameos and how it worked so well, and
Speaker 2: he wanted to do that on the big screens. So
Speaker 2: in this movie, I forget how many there's like two
Speaker 2: hundred and something cameo. Yeah, And that's another thing.
Speaker 3: It was like the biggest budget movie.
Speaker 2: And they were like, no one's going to make this,
Speaker 2: and he felt so strong about it that he said, well,
Speaker 2: I'll pay for it. This is an important movie. I
Speaker 2: want this out there, and then of course to HBO
Speaker 2: did end up paying for it. But I think it
Speaker 2: had more cameos than the movie. The player even, Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, I have to go back and watch this.
Speaker 3: You have to be really good.
Speaker 2: It's a movie I think everyone will love.
Speaker 3: It's still really, really, really good today because you really
Speaker 3: learn what was going on. I mean, I think there's
Speaker 3: probably some things that we know now we didn't know then.
Speaker 3: I think there's a couple things that I took away
Speaker 3: that were really fascinating. I did some research, and I
Speaker 3: think when Richard Gear joined the cast, it was a
Speaker 3: game changer because all these other big name actors were
Speaker 3: willing to do it because Richard Gear did it. But
Speaker 3: the thing that really gutted me was at the very
Speaker 3: end of the credits, they show sort of recognizable people
Speaker 3: that had been diagnosed with HIV AIDS. Not famous celebrities
Speaker 3: only yes, lots of famous people, but recognize people Ryan White,
Speaker 3: Arthur Ash, all these people. And then when I was
Speaker 3: doing my research, every single one of those people except
Speaker 3: for Magic Johnson died. It was like, oh, you just realized,
Speaker 3: like at the time when it first happened, and they
Speaker 3: say this in the movie, it's one hundred percent of
Speaker 3: that people died, everybody. But the movie is fascinating and
Speaker 3: really then helps you understand the storyline in nine o
Speaker 3: two one zero.
Speaker 2: Right, because otherwise not knowing that it's kind of very
Speaker 2: out of place, this storyline. I mean, we tackle tough subjects,
Speaker 2: but this one goes even deeper, I think. And Jen
Speaker 2: I was telling Amy that because my dad wasn't known
Speaker 2: for doing stuff like this, and he was just noticed
Speaker 2: like Jiggle TV, you know, things like dat teen dramas
Speaker 2: like whatever. He was nominated and when the movie was nominated,
Speaker 2: he made himself so sick and he was in bed
Speaker 2: and he was like, no, no, no, I'm really too sick
Speaker 2: to go. I can't go. Plus I'm never gonna win,
Speaker 2: like I never win anything. And they won. Oh and
Speaker 2: he didn't get to yeah.
Speaker 1: You can go.
Speaker 3: That stinks, Jenny. Do you remember and I can't remember
Speaker 3: if I asked you this last week, did they come
Speaker 3: to you about this storyline or was it just it
Speaker 3: showed up on the page and you were like, all right.
Speaker 1: Well, at this point there were definitely pre conversations to storylines,
Speaker 1: especially big ones like this and ones that had this
Speaker 1: kind of weight. So while I cannot remember it specifically,
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent sure that it a conversation took
Speaker 1: place before.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing I really thought was interesting about the
Speaker 3: way it was handled it even though I understood you're
Speaker 3: freaking out because you get the blood on you, right,
Speaker 3: the show was pretty good about multiple people saying you
Speaker 3: can't catch it that way, like, even though I also
Speaker 3: thought they depicted your fear of it very well. The
Speaker 3: nightmare and the scrubbing of the hands and the scrubbing
Speaker 3: of the hands and sort of the panic all very
Speaker 3: sort of reminiscent of the time. But I thought the
Speaker 3: thing that really was well done was that they addressed
Speaker 3: your unprotected sex with multiple people, and then that was
Speaker 3: where you know, they really felt you should be tested.
Speaker 3: And then you go through that that was very well
Speaker 3: done that they didn't just like only make it about
Speaker 3: Michael's character Jimmy, that they took it to another place
Speaker 3: that actually was concerning, and they addressed that you had
Speaker 3: been sleeping with someone who was a drug user and
Speaker 3: like maybe we didn't see him, do you know, intravenous drugs,
Speaker 3: but like that guy was a drug addict, We don't know.
Speaker 3: I just thought, Wow, they really went everywhere with this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did such a responsible thing by talking about
Speaker 1: you know, like you said about unsafe sex in that
Speaker 1: day and age. That means there were a few like
Speaker 1: tough conversations in this episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of them, and it was very of
Speaker 3: the time. I mean I remember that era being in
Speaker 3: college and have you been tested? Was like a big thing,
Speaker 3: like getting tested before you had a new partner. Seems
Speaker 3: like we might need to bring some of that back
Speaker 3: because I mean, I like kids are much too lucy,
Speaker 3: not not necessarily because of HIV AIDS only, but also
Speaker 3: because of all these other sexually transmitted diseases.
Speaker 1: And yeah, well, getting back to the episode, Steve, he
Speaker 1: didn't want to go and support Jimmy at the magic show.
Speaker 3: Poor Steve. Yeah, they just really write him to be
Speaker 3: the big du her.
Speaker 2: If I would have been like, I don't want my
Speaker 2: character to go that far, yeah, I was like we
Speaker 2: felt about yeah right.
Speaker 3: They always make his character just never forgets it right,
Speaker 3: life forgets it right. This ringe, yeah, cringey cringe.
Speaker 1: What about after the cut? What the blood? She got
Speaker 1: a lot of blood on our hands. First of all,
Speaker 1: he must have really cut his hand. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought it was well done. The nightmare and the
Speaker 3: hand washing and the hand see that. I was almost
Speaker 3: I almost thought the nightmare was real. I did too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I saw the first arm, I still thought
Speaker 1: it was real. And then she seen to look at
Speaker 1: the other arm, and I was like, okay, this is.
Speaker 2: Wait. You guys, we have not told everyone what they're.
Speaker 3: Because this episode is like, it's very I remember it well.
Speaker 3: People caught up.
Speaker 1: Season seven, Episode four, Disappearing Act September eleventh, nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2: Synopsis. The hand is quicker than the eye when it
Speaker 2: comes to Jimmy Gold's magic tricks. Kelly gets a safe
Speaker 2: sex wake up call after an HIV scare. Valerie is
Speaker 2: acting more controlling with Kenny. Meanwhile, Brandon and Mark hire
Speaker 2: a news anchor with no experience, and David blames Donna
Speaker 2: for telling his dad he is a CEU dropout.
Speaker 1: Directed by David Semel, written by John Eisendrath. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: just start at the beginning. Why is David still being
Speaker 1: a douche?
Speaker 3: I thought we were past this.
Speaker 2: Do you guys know how much he eats in this episode? No?
Speaker 3: I just saw him drinking margarita alone.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the peach bit Dad gets me. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, Nat had the baby.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, you can tell because he's showing a picture
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah everywhere.
Speaker 1: Now is there ever any presence of the actual baby.
Speaker 2: Like in the future. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Hey may so funny because I can't fully remember. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't remember seeing the wife nearly as much as
Speaker 3: you would think you would, right, I do remember the
Speaker 3: news anchor stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh hi, c Brandon's new love interest, He says, Oh, man,
Speaker 1: now we just need somebody to read it.
Speaker 3: Dunt dun dum, here she come, Yill Novac. Her real
Speaker 3: name is Jill Novaks. Yeah, she's good and I like her.
Speaker 3: She's just very susan ish.
Speaker 2: Well, I just feel like, God, Brandon, aside from Kelly,
Speaker 2: really has a.
Speaker 1: Type, right, I don't fit into Stipe at all.
Speaker 2: No, not at all, but like, oh my god, it
Speaker 2: seems like they're interchangeable.
Speaker 1: Because they do have a romance, right, Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: lasts for twenty three episodes.
Speaker 3: What it's like the same thing we did with Susan.
Speaker 3: It's literally the same wh why met her at the paper?
Speaker 3: Now we met her at the TV station.
Speaker 2: You're not ready for him yet, so we got to
Speaker 2: go shock that throw one more in.
Speaker 1: That she's there for twenty three episodes.
Speaker 3: I never thought that it was that long. Wow, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: but if you are that drunk reading the news, how
Speaker 3: are you going to read the news? Also? Would they
Speaker 3: really take her out to get a drink before?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 3: Let get let her get like no wasted. She's really
Speaker 3: cute when she's drunk though. I gotta tell you, Yes,
Speaker 3: she's a cool girl. I like her. I like it.
Speaker 3: There's something I like about her, but it just feels
Speaker 3: super redundant. Yeah, there's it's nothing about her.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, let's see where it's going. Maybe something special
Speaker 2: is going to happen with this relationship.
Speaker 3: What's up is this episode where where David talks to
Speaker 3: his dad?
Speaker 1: Yes, and then you're like, uh, why Okay? I love
Speaker 1: Mel Silver with all my heart?
Speaker 2: Is there a buck coming? Yes? Okay.
Speaker 1: I feel like when he comes on the screen in
Speaker 1: this episode, he's so like, wah wah, wah wah wah,
Speaker 1: Like he's so such a downer dad, and.
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like David's kind of a mess. Can
Speaker 3: we acknowledge the fact that though David doesn't have money
Speaker 3: for rent but drives a hundred thousand dollars car well
Speaker 3: because daddy bought it for him. Hello? Right, he literally
Speaker 3: drives that Defender. I don't know if it was one
Speaker 3: hundred thousand at the time, but like, dude, what Yeah?
Speaker 1: But uh it sounds like Mel's cutting him off?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: If he drops out of school right by the end,
Speaker 3: isn't he back in school? Yes? It's like this was
Speaker 3: really title. Why would you leave? He's got a year left?
Speaker 3: He just he wants to be famous.
Speaker 1: He wants to be a famous filmmaker.
Speaker 3: So obsessed with this direct thing.
Speaker 2: But he's just so angry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and not fun to watch or be around. I
Speaker 1: just personally feel like I have emotional whiplash with watching
Speaker 1: him go back and forth and not understanding why he's
Speaker 1: not the way David was. Like, I don't remember this
Speaker 1: phase of the David character.
Speaker 3: It's not totally out of left field because they tried
Speaker 3: hard to sort of make this. Oh, Don and David
Speaker 3: are directing music videos and it's such a big deal,
Speaker 3: and then it's kind of like swiped out from under him.
Speaker 3: It just feels a little bit like they're trying too
Speaker 3: hard to make that a storyline.
Speaker 1: I mean, David, David, Brian's a good actor, so he
Speaker 1: can do anything. It's just like, why are they writing
Speaker 1: him this way?
Speaker 3: It definitely continues, It definitely continues throughout this season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, oh, because he's living at the Hollywood Hills House.
Speaker 2: And did you guys see what I was saying? That's
Speaker 2: a full on set the Hollywood Hills House. I does
Speaker 2: not see that.
Speaker 1: I see I see it as a set, like a house,
Speaker 1: an actual house.
Speaker 2: It's not no, that was a because they planned on
Speaker 2: this house. Being like wait, wait, I spid a new
Speaker 2: beach apartment. Where was it was trying to think so
Speaker 2: our main set or addressing room flore Yeah, not where
Speaker 2: the peach pit is on this side the.
Speaker 3: Other way, but never saw one. Wow, I never saw it,
Speaker 3: not once.
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that crazy? But I don't know if Kelly's
Speaker 2: ever there. Well, I guess Kelly is going to be there.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like it's a mid century modern with
Speaker 3: that step down? I feel like it's like Hollwood Hills
Speaker 3: House sunk in living room. Yeah. Oh, I love a
Speaker 3: sunken living room. Why don't they do those anymore? Because
Speaker 3: they're a pain in the ass. Everybody's trying to raise
Speaker 3: their sunken living rooms, everybody with a step down to
Speaker 3: Why do I have this step down? It's so seventies.
Speaker 3: I feel like it should have like a like a
Speaker 3: Burt Reynolds on a rug. Doesn't that feel like a
Speaker 3: sunken living room? Like Burt Reynolds with his shirt? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was quite a photo.
Speaker 2: So who lives at this house? Mark?
Speaker 3: Mark and David and David and isnone else?
Speaker 2: Someone else is coming?
Speaker 3: I feel like we don't know them yet. If there's
Speaker 3: someone else, we haven't met them.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's like a Month's type character.
Speaker 1: Month's okay, So go into we're really jumping around. We're
Speaker 1: criss crossing all the storylines right now. But going, uh
Speaker 1: back to Mark.
Speaker 3: You mentioned Mark.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we see him in the first episode and they're
Speaker 1: talking about how they need somebody to uh read the news,
Speaker 1: and he says, if you want to reach the boobs,
Speaker 1: you've got to get on the tube.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I know. And how about when the
Speaker 3: camera person.
Speaker 1: I hold that line though, because my mom always used
Speaker 1: to say, get out of in front of the boob tube.
Speaker 1: So I've watching the boob tube and I always be like,
Speaker 1: there's no boobs on the TV.
Speaker 3: I don't understand what that means. Well, why did they
Speaker 3: call it that.
Speaker 1: I guess you turn into a boob if you sit
Speaker 1: in front of the tube too long.
Speaker 2: We are you being serious? It's not like a correlation
Speaker 2: to like women's breasts.
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like makes you a boob a dummy if
Speaker 1: you want, if you just sit in front of the TV.
Speaker 2: I thought Mark was making some inappropriate comment about women's boobs,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, God, I.
Speaker 1: Don't like approate when they close up the legs.
Speaker 2: I don't like his character, like the way he talks.
Speaker 2: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: Do I remember another they give those.
Speaker 2: Steven Brandon like Mark and Brandon like.
Speaker 3: Ugh, it don't.
Speaker 1: Brandon always acts so natural at everything, like he's just
Speaker 1: stepping into being a news uh producer, never stunt run
Speaker 1: a camera room with switches and buttons and all the things,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's like, you know, boss.
Speaker 2: Man, that's called main character energy.
Speaker 1: It is main character energy. There's nothing he cannot do,
Speaker 1: Brandon Walsh. It's crazy and he does it with such confidence.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm going back to Tracy. I think that they
Speaker 3: should have solved her panic attack with breathing exercises and
Speaker 3: not alcohol.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that would have been a better approach, but
Speaker 1: they left the boys in charge.
Speaker 3: So there you go. So what do we Okay, wait,
Speaker 3: I don't want to jump around to the valerie stuff
Speaker 3: until you guys.
Speaker 1: Are we haven't even gotten to the valery stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 1: let's save that until we're good and done with this.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Should we go back to Jimmy a bit more
Speaker 3: and the magic? He's a pretty good magician.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And also what I couldn't figure out is, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that when he's coughing, coughing, and it's not real,
Speaker 3: and then you jump up there that it was part
Speaker 3: of it? But or did you just jump up there like?
Speaker 3: I was like, was this? Did she know? Or was
Speaker 3: she panic it? Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3: It's like a really good trick. That was a real
Speaker 3: bait and switch because he's like and then we thought
Speaker 3: he was sick. I thought he was sick too, But
Speaker 3: then yet you were like up there and he's like,
Speaker 3: my beautiful assistant. I was like, she like, Kelly, was
Speaker 3: she in on it? His mouth again? A frog? A frog? Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's a good magician.
Speaker 1: Do you think he had that frog in his mouth?
Speaker 3: Was it real? I don't know. Can you do any
Speaker 3: magic tricks? Can you guys do any magic tricks?
Speaker 2: I want to be a terrible at magic?
Speaker 3: Can I Can you do a magic trick?
Speaker 1: I think I could if I put my mind to it,
Speaker 1: I could do a card.
Speaker 3: Trick, pull a corner out of someone's ear.
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to be cut in half like the
Speaker 2: girl in the bock practice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll try it. Oh my god. I have a
Speaker 3: couple of funny magician stories, but one I just went
Speaker 3: to a kid's magician just the other day, and he
Speaker 3: was pretty good, Like somehow a kid had a dollar
Speaker 3: and then the dollar came out of a lemon, like
Speaker 3: they rode on the dollar. And then it was crazy
Speaker 3: how they do it? I get that, it's all like
Speaker 3: sleight of hand. I don't know how rick how do
Speaker 3: they do it? My niece had to pick a card
Speaker 3: and then suddenly that card was on a painting like
Speaker 3: it was just nuts. I wish I could remember that
Speaker 3: magician's name. Allegedly he's the greatest kid's magician in the
Speaker 3: Bay is something. It was like the great Oh, I go,
Speaker 3: you know, when's the last Has anyone been to David
Speaker 3: Copperfield No no, Chris Angel no, David.
Speaker 2: Blaine no no, I'm not big into magic and in
Speaker 2: Teller No no, I'm then to the Magic Castle? Is
Speaker 2: that count?
Speaker 3: Yeah? That was the guy the chopped up watermelons. Was
Speaker 3: he a magician Carrot Top? Yeah? I think he was.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've been to Carrot Top. I've been
Speaker 3: to Carrot Top, but he's not a magician at all.
Speaker 3: He just pulls weird crap out of a suitcase. It's weird.
Speaker 3: Magic is weird.
Speaker 1: If you are a magician listening right now? Please tell secrets.
Speaker 3: It's on tricks, because I think if they cut you
Speaker 3: in half, like really, you're just like in a ball
Speaker 3: on the one half, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like the lady that could cut you have to be
Speaker 3: like a limber in there, or like if you disappear,
Speaker 3: there's like a trapdoor or something that's in santour We
Speaker 3: could do it. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they'd be happy
Speaker 3: to have you in Vegas like you guys would be
Speaker 3: so good about that. Can you imagine if it was like,
Speaker 3: you know how like celebrities do Chippendale's. What if it
Speaker 3: was like Toury and Jenny with David Copperfield, Like I
Speaker 3: would totally go see that.
Speaker 2: You had some reality show that was like Celebrities, but
Speaker 2: a competition show where celebrities were.
Speaker 3: On it learning magic tricks, get correct? No way, what
Speaker 3: was that? That seems easier than going being on Special Forces.
Speaker 3: I would take this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like that, but magic.
Speaker 3: Take the learning to be the magician rather than have
Speaker 3: to like jump from a thing on a helicopter.
Speaker 1: You probably get paid more to do the magician thing.
Speaker 3: Have they asked you either of you to be on
Speaker 3: Special Forces. Here's the thing. I would want you guys
Speaker 3: to do it, but I feel like you can't do it.
Speaker 3: I couldn't do it. I couldn't do one thing. I
Speaker 3: don't think I could. The younger me would have been
Speaker 3: all over that. But I couldn't sleep in the bed
Speaker 3: they sleep in, or use the toilet they use. I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm out quick. Yeah the bathrooms sketch, Yeah,
Speaker 3: no thanks. It's literally like a like worse than the
Speaker 3: toilet camping toilet. It's like just a board. You just
Speaker 3: see their heads.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm out with that bed dangent.
Speaker 3: Okay, sorry, let's talk Celebra cadabras. Good title, good title.
Speaker 3: Did it go on the air, Yeah, I would have
Speaker 3: immediately taken that paycheck. Pull a rabbit eye would.
Speaker 2: Have done that.
Speaker 3: Should we talk about val Yes. I don't know if
Speaker 3: I'm into it or cringing.
Speaker 2: I'm not into this storyline, you guys, I can't. I'm
Speaker 2: very upset with it.
Speaker 1: All I know is Kenny is a head kisser, Like
Speaker 1: over and over, he just kisses the top of.
Speaker 3: Her head, like no, on her hair.
Speaker 2: I can't watch him. I can't watch her hair in it.
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't.
Speaker 3: He's real creepy and it only gets worse and it
Speaker 3: gets very melrose placy. It does, you guys, admit it
Speaker 3: gets real melrose placy, fake baby like the whole thing.
Speaker 3: I don't you stop.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched that or but I think it's just
Speaker 1: makes me feel icky whatever's happening.
Speaker 3: I'm also trying to keep track of his wedding ring.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's on, it's off, it's on, it's off.
Speaker 3: I need to, like somebody needs to go back and
Speaker 3: do like a deep dive of like is this guy
Speaker 3: wearing a wedding ring or not? Because I've seen it
Speaker 3: and I haven't seen it, Like, what's up with this guy?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just promises that he's getting a divorce. He's promises.
Speaker 3: He's just not.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because I don't find him attractive that I'm
Speaker 2: just like not into watching her with him.
Speaker 3: There's something about him that's playing.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a good looking guy. It's not that,
Speaker 2: but there's something that I'm just like, he's very.
Speaker 1: Like good looking on a soap opera.
Speaker 3: Guy, hot married guy, kind of a vibe, yeah, like
Speaker 3: hot daytime and why do I want to watch her
Speaker 3: with him?
Speaker 2: Like I don't not even there, Like it's not even
Speaker 2: like a kissing scene, Like I just don't want to
Speaker 2: watch the two of them talk.
Speaker 3: She just cannot make it. She just doesn't make good choices.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about that. Balerie doesn't make good choices.
Speaker 1: For such a smart young woman. She really makes some
Speaker 1: stupid decisions.
Speaker 3: For pickers off as they say, Yeah, like why is
Speaker 3: she doing this? They're always unavailable? Yeah, why is she
Speaker 3: doing this?
Speaker 1: Well, people, there are women that go for unavailable men.
Speaker 3: They need therapy. They need therapy and they can figure
Speaker 3: out why and then they can change it.
Speaker 1: Most likely their dad wasn't there for them.
Speaker 3: Okay, just gonna.
Speaker 1: Move on because that's a lot to talk about. But
Speaker 1: they do have a very special evening planned at a hotel.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, and she's like, come on in, I've
Speaker 3: got a dinner. Hair. It's so gross. She's also way
Speaker 3: too like she plays Valerie too old, do you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying? Like Valerie is the same age as
Speaker 3: David Silver.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's that the two of them are just feel
Speaker 2: like I'm watching two old people.
Speaker 3: Oh she just old. But you know what, I mean, wait,
Speaker 3: what she's got that I'm twenty one going on thirty
Speaker 3: five normal, She's so cute, she could go to college
Speaker 3: and get any cool she's.
Speaker 2: Playing like because maybe she's trying to fit in to
Speaker 2: be his older wife like Matres instead of the young
Speaker 2: smoke show she is. I don't know. I hate this storyline.
Speaker 2: I want it to end soon. I just want it
Speaker 2: gets worse.
Speaker 3: You guys, it just gets worse.
Speaker 2: It can't get worse. It does makes me want to
Speaker 2: peep in my mouth.
Speaker 3: It can beyond worse. And then we learn more creepy
Speaker 3: things about him. He is creepy to the core. But
Speaker 3: I really want Val the fine love, like good love.
Speaker 2: Who's next for her? So I want something to look
Speaker 2: forward to for her?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. We got to go a
Speaker 3: couple more with this.
Speaker 2: Mess, and then but who is valmind up with? I
Speaker 2: don't remember.
Speaker 3: I must acknowledge that everyone wants me to remember every
Speaker 3: single thing, and it's like I don't remember, Like, look
Speaker 3: a meeting I have tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're as close as we have to a
Speaker 1: SAX fan, thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also you're expert. It's more holistic too, like
Speaker 3: the whole show in general. Sometimes I do mess up
Speaker 3: certain things in the timeline.
Speaker 2: That's okay, You're not perfect, but you are a resident
Speaker 2: expert here at OMG.
Speaker 3: You can just fire me.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I'm going to have a call with you
Speaker 1: about firing you can we get that on the calendar.
Speaker 2: Put in the group text.
Speaker 3: Going season seven though, Like I have to say, I
Speaker 3: am it's not the shine.
Speaker 2: You're loving this?
Speaker 3: Oh you're you're irritated. I kind of, well, yeah, I
Speaker 3: can see why you would be, like, well, and you
Speaker 3: were barely even in this episode. They didn't give you
Speaker 3: anything to do.
Speaker 2: I don't even care about watching myself, Like it's it's like,
Speaker 2: I just want to see fun stuff. I don't know.
Speaker 2: The Kelly Jimmy storyline I loved, so I'm going to
Speaker 2: give this episode a break because of that. I was riveted, like,
Speaker 2: and they handle it really well, great acting. But all
Speaker 2: the other storylines I didn't care about. I don't care
Speaker 2: about Valerie and the creeper. I don't care about David
Speaker 2: swigging lemonade and eating with his mouth open. It's so gross,
Speaker 2: like he's not being David.
Speaker 3: No, he's not you. What do you give it?
Speaker 1: You said, you're going to give it grace, but what
Speaker 1: is the number?
Speaker 2: I feel like I have to give it a high
Speaker 2: number because of the matter ceiling.
Speaker 3: With Well, you could give that a number, and I'll give.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to give that storyline a nine, and
Speaker 2: the rest I'm going to give a six.
Speaker 3: I am in agreement with you. I hate watching Valerie
Speaker 3: and the Guy but loving it. So do you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying? Like he cringey, but I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: so in on this because it's so oh, this is
Speaker 3: so redict and I love it. I'm always good for there.
Speaker 3: You know, the dad's dating the young girl and cheating
Speaker 3: on the wife. Like, it's very lifetime movie for me.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, I'm been.
Speaker 2: You know what it is you guys, aside from Kelly
Speaker 2: that storyline, all of our regulars on the show are
Speaker 2: not acting like themselves. They're not like the characters we know.
Speaker 3: In this episode, where was Brandon. Oh, I'm that's right,
Speaker 3: he was at the newsroom. I literally forgot for a
Speaker 3: second Forgrettable.
Speaker 2: It's almost like it's a different, different characters written in
Speaker 2: this episode.
Speaker 1: Well, let's pray that the next episode just turns things
Speaker 1: around for everyone.
Speaker 3: Well, it's you and Jimmy again. He did three and
Speaker 3: the third one I can't remember the details.
Speaker 1: The third one is next week, season seven, episode five,
Speaker 1: Pledging My Love.
Speaker 3: So is there like a whole new team of people
Speaker 3: on season seven?
Speaker 2: A little bit? A little bit? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, new showrunner if I'm not mistaken correct.
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes I notice these shows they kind of
Speaker 3: meander off and come back. Not to change the subject,
Speaker 3: but did anyone watch nine to one one this week?
Speaker 3: Because it was an outstanding episode and I felt like
Speaker 3: it lost its way for a little bit. Was amazing.
Speaker 3: We're talking about it. I'm just letting these guys know
Speaker 3: that sometimes shows lose their way for a minute and
Speaker 3: then they find their way back. That's true, And that
Speaker 3: they find their way back, I know, you know that
Speaker 3: the episode isn't great when I'm more interested in Celebritabra.
Speaker 2: Or whatever.
Speaker 3: Cele like. I literally want to talk about celebritab way more.
Speaker 3: I want us to just stop talking at this point.
Speaker 3: I don't. I want to know the other shows before
Speaker 3: we go. I want to know the other shows you
Speaker 3: guys have been asked to do, Like obviously Special Forces,
Speaker 3: where either of you asked to go on that mission
Speaker 3: to Mars whatever it was, Stars on Mars would have
Speaker 3: been That would have been great. That would have been
Speaker 3: great dancing with the stars obviously. What about Amazing Race?
Speaker 3: Could you guys do an amazing race together? That's a
Speaker 3: celebrity driven Sometimes there's like, yeah, celebrities, what.
Speaker 1: About that where you go and you're naked and you're afraid?
Speaker 1: What's that one do they do?
Speaker 3: I don't think that's celebrities.
Speaker 1: A celebrity edition, you know, I would we asked to
Speaker 1: do the celebrity Big Brother.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about I'm a celebrity, get me out of here?
Speaker 3: What about Massinger? Yes, yeah, tour you did it? Yeah, Jenny,
Speaker 3: you've been asked. I did not do it. No, you
Speaker 3: can't here, I can't.
Speaker 2: She can't sing, but she is fine.
Speaker 3: It's fine for me to just say. What about Surreal Life?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh no, oh no, that came back right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think so for that one.
Speaker 2: I think we're like back in the day agen like
Speaker 2: it was like early two thousan, right, the first incarnation
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: Juicy gosh. There's some good ones. I think Special Forces
Speaker 3: is probably my favorite. I feel like Tory should try
Speaker 3: special horses. I did, you might lose.
Speaker 2: Right away, but I think I was even in their
Speaker 2: wheelhouse of thinking, I.
Speaker 1: Personally don't want you to do that because I don't
Speaker 1: think it would be.
Speaker 3: Good for you. Yes, and you literally have to jump
Speaker 3: from like a platform to a helicopter and then hold
Speaker 3: the helicopter like your I would be riveted. Do you
Speaker 3: watch it? And it's flying? Please? So crazy? I cannot
Speaker 3: figure out how they even let these celebrities do it.
Speaker 3: They're just swinging from a helicopter and then they like
Speaker 3: jump into the water. The whole thing's crazy.
Speaker 1: First of all, just the water temperature alone, that's a
Speaker 1: hard pass for me.
Speaker 2: No, Brian did it good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brian was on it, but he didn't make it
Speaker 1: very far and the exit was not very explained, Like
Speaker 1: I just felt like, all of a sudden, he just
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Same with Melby, all of a sudden she
Speaker 1: was not there.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, are you a crazy fan of this show?
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 1: I believes this no, because I secretly want to do it,
Speaker 1: but I would not ever, ever, never say yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could never do it. I'd panic immediately from
Speaker 3: the moment it began too And then they torture you
Speaker 3: at the end, like they play all these mind games
Speaker 3: on you and like you're freezing your head. They put
Speaker 3: a thing. I would be out on the thing over
Speaker 3: my head. I'd be like, I can't participate. It'd be fun.
Speaker 3: I'd be into it. But you and Brody Jenner was
Speaker 3: going to win. By the way, I'm so obvious like
Speaker 3: that guy. Obviously. It's like a great athlete. He can serve,
Speaker 3: he can swim. I was like, this guy's totally gonna win.
Speaker 1: He's got it in, he's got a great attitude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's official. We are ending this episode right now.
Speaker 3: Okay, everybody, come back next to We didn't give a score.
Speaker 3: My score is nine because I love to dislike it
Speaker 3: and I love to love it. So like, even though
Speaker 3: I'm like Valerie, come on, I'm into it. Okay. And
Speaker 3: there's something I like about that creepy guy because I
Speaker 3: have a little of that in me. Oh you're creepy.
Speaker 3: I think I don't like you. You like the creepers.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, everybody, thanks for listening, and we love you.
Speaker 1: Have a great week.