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No, 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 5: it's fine. I mean it's not like this as new. 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 5: You know, this is what the Dallas cow Boys do. 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 5: They've done it with Dak Prescott, They've done it with 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 5: Ceedee Lamb, Zach Martin, Ezekiel Elliott, as Briant. 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 6: I mean, list goes on and on and in the end. 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 5: What happens is the players always end up getting their money. 25 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 6: So it seems very ugly to people that. 26 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 5: Aren't around it, and it might even get uglier than 27 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 5: it is right now. But ultimately, Michael Parsons isn't going 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 5: anywhere and he will eventually get a new contract from 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys. 30 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. 31 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 4: They made the big splash move going after Pickens, so 32 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 4: the offense could actually be kind of good. I don't know, 33 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: Dak Prescott, healthy Pickens on the outside, Lamb on the outside, 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: like they could be good offensively. I just have so 35 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 4: many questions about the defense. And of course Schottenneimer's head coach, 36 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 4: I'm curious where you are was shoddy leading this team? 37 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 5: I mean, I like him from a media perspective. He's 38 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 5: very media friendly. He certainly understands our job. But there's 39 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 5: just a lot of questions that I don't think have 40 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 5: been answered yet. I mean, there's only so much you 41 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 5: can get out of training camp. There's only so much 42 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 5: you can get out of preseason games where they're not 43 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 5: really playing many starters at all, And that's really been 44 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 5: the case for Dak Prescott for the last four or 45 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 5: five years, and so you really don't know, and then 46 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 5: you match in the George Pickens. 47 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 6: And how he fits with the offense, the. 48 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 5: Fact that Brian has said that he's trying to be 49 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 5: as vanilla as possible at camp and then also in 50 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 5: these preseting games because he doesn't want anybody to know 51 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 5: what he can show on offense, and so certainly it 52 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 5: should be a good passing game. I just have questions 53 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 5: about the run game, and if you can't run the ball, 54 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 5: I don't know how teams don't just sit there and 55 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 5: drop two safeties as deep as possible and say I'm 56 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 5: not going to let Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens beat us. 57 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 6: What is your counter to that? And that's what we 58 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 6: don't know yet. 59 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. 60 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 4: They've moved off of the starting running back maybe three 61 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: years in a row. 62 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if that's exactly right. 63 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: But Rico had a good year last year and now 64 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 4: they were Javonte Williams listen. 65 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 66 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 4: If you play fantasy, he's the kind of guy that 67 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 4: you pick up and then drop within a week because 68 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 4: he'll go for like five carries for like twelve yards 69 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: and you're like, this guy's not very good. 70 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: You're right. The run game is a major problem, is 71 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: it not? 72 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 5: It is, And I'm just stunned that over these last 73 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 5: two years there hasn't been a bigger move to add 74 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 5: a veteran running back or draft one in one of 75 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 5: the first two days of the draft. And so, as 76 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 5: we say here today, Javonte Williams will be the starter. 77 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 6: So for those looking for who the. 78 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 5: Cowboy starter would be in fantasy, I would say Javonte Williams. 79 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 5: Jayden Blue, their fifth round pick out of Texas, would 80 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 5: be the guy that adds some juice to the offense. 81 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 5: But he's coming off of a little bit of an 82 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 5: ankle injury, and so I don't know how quickly he'll 83 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 5: be utilized. I'm sure he'll get some touches against Philadelphia, 84 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 5: but I don't think that he's enough to will push 85 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 5: Devonte Williams away and then behind them it's I think 86 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 5: a little bit of Cavante Turpin the wide receiver might 87 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 5: be a little bit of a wild card there, maybe 88 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 5: two three touches a game. They will hand the ball 89 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 5: occasionally to Ceedee Lamb as well, and so I don't 90 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 5: think it is going to be just your you know, 91 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 5: solid normal Ezekiel Elliott, you know, DeMarco Murray type running game. 92 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 5: I think it's going to be a variety of things 93 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 5: that might even include the full back hunter lipkey. 94 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: It's interesting listening to you talk about some of these guys. 95 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: I start looking at their draft history and Jerry, he's 96 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 4: had a couple whiffs in recent years. Huh last year, 97 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: nobody really distinguished themselves in the draft. 98 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: Two years ago they did all right. And then there's 99 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: the Vazzie. 100 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 4: Smith pick, which has been an unmitigated disaster. Like I listen, 101 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: I know he's a billionaire, he runs the team, but 102 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 4: at any point do you anticipate cowboys brass sitting down 103 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 4: and being like, guys, we're gonna have to do something here, 104 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: or is it there's just no chance of that happening? 105 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: Are your mind? 106 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 6: In terms of Michael Parsons. 107 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: Well, Jerry Jones watching every contract, Oh no, that will 108 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 4: never check him out. 109 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 6: But no, that's not. 110 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 5: As long as he's around, nobody will be stepping in 111 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 5: and saying, I mean we've seen it with this Michael 112 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 5: Parsons thing. 113 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 6: It was I would say a. 114 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 5: Few months ago something where I can see Stephen Jones 115 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 5: being involved. 116 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 6: It's done now. 117 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 5: This is a Jerry situation, and it will get done 118 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 5: when Gary wants it to get done. 119 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 6: So it remains that way. 120 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 5: Now, Jerry does listen to the people around him, you know, 121 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 5: I don't want it to come off as like he 122 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 5: just goes around and he just goes with whoever the 123 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 5: you know, the last person he talks to. 124 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 6: There's a lot of rumors of that. 125 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: Now. 126 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 5: He listens to people that are around him, but on 127 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 5: these big decisions, he's he's going to be the final 128 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 5: say on these things. And so that's why when you 129 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 5: see the Micah contract dragging out, people often ask me, 130 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 5: how do you think it'll be different when Steven Jones 131 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 5: is running the team? There won't be as many of 132 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 5: these things. I mean, Jerry has an ability to hold 133 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 5: a grudge like very few others, and where we're at 134 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 5: right now with that, I think is a great example 135 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 5: of it. 136 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 6: And I don't think anybody can talk him out of it. 137 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 4: He has to do it himself. So he's now going 138 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: on podcasts. He went on a podcast with Michael Orvan. 139 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: This is an eight a guy over eighty years old 140 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: going on a podcast and he's actually seems like he 141 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: was talking trash about this Mica situation with the agent 142 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 4: and shoving it up his butt and like it just 143 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: did not sound good at all. Have you spoken with 144 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: Micah's agent and where's he on all this? 145 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 6: Not recently? 146 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 5: No, I don't have much contact with him. And that's 147 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 5: I think by design. David Mullagetta, who you're talking about, 148 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 5: Michael Parsons agent, much like Todd France. 149 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 6: These are two of the top agents in the NFL. 150 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 5: And Todd France doesn't do much media either, and he 151 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 5: represents Dak Prescott and has gotten Dak Prescott two. 152 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 6: Of the most incredible deals. 153 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 5: The last two times that they've gone to the table 154 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 5: against Jerry Jones, they've no question won those battles. And 155 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 5: so if you're David Mullagetta, why not do the exact 156 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 5: same thing. You don't need to get in a war 157 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 5: of words. You let everything take care of itself and 158 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 5: let Jerry do what he does, say what he says, 159 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 5: but the track record speaks for itself, and that Jerry 160 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 5: ends up paying all of these players. 161 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 6: Things got ugly with Ezekiel Elliott. 162 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 5: I remember being in Hawaii for a preseason game where 163 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 5: Tony Poward looked pretty good and Zeke was in a holdout, 164 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 5: and myself and a couple other reporters are standing with 165 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 5: Jerry after the game and he said Zeke who, as 166 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 5: if Zeke wasn't needed for the team, And then you know, 167 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 5: you fast forward three weeks later, if that he's signing 168 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 5: Zeke and then they're holding a T shirt up that 169 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 5: says Zeke who, and everybody's laughing and having a good time. 170 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 5: So it's like Jerry is fine with everything getting ugly. 171 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 5: The issue you run into is it causes problems for 172 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 5: everybody else. And the players will say it's not a distraction, 173 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 5: and the coaches will say it's not a distraction, but 174 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 5: it's an issue not to have your best player on 175 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 5: the field throughout training. 176 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 6: Camp with the new coaching staff. 177 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 5: And so even if this gets done in the eleventh hour, 178 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 5: it's cost you all that time when Micah could have 179 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: been on the field with this new defensive coordinator, with 180 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 5: this new coaching staff. 181 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, what about lying on the table. I know it 182 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 4: only was brief, it barely happened, but it happened. You know, 183 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: everybody wants to make a big deal out of it. 184 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 4: Schottenheimer getting asked about it afterward, I'm just talk me 185 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: through watching it go down in your thoughts. 186 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, so where it's in the third quarter And another 187 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 5: media member mentioned it to me and said, hey, look 188 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 5: at where Mike is at and I was like, okay, 189 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 5: you know, of course, being the journalist that I am, 190 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 5: i snapped a picture with my phone, but I'm like, yeah, 191 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 5: maybe it just is going to last for like thirty seconds, 192 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 5: not a big deal. And then a minute goes by, 193 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 5: two minutes go by three, four or five minutes, and 194 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, well I'm posting this. Others have 195 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 5: already posted this. It just doesn't look good. But with 196 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 5: that being said, even when things are going well with 197 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 5: the Cowboys, that have gone well with Mike in the past, 198 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 5: he isn't the best body language guy. 199 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 6: Whether you're at practice or whatever. 200 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 5: And it was kind of funny that Dak Prescott made 201 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 5: mention of that yesterday when we talked to him about 202 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 5: you know, Mikeah's body language has clearly been that he 203 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 5: doesn't want to be at these practices, He does not 204 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 5: want to be at these preseason games. 205 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 6: He wants a new contract, and. 206 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 5: So even Dak joke that, you know, it's not like 207 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 5: he's ever been the best in that category in terms 208 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 5: of the body language. But it's very clear that Mike 209 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 5: is frustrated and that while he wants to be there 210 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 5: for his teammates, he wants to try I drive this 211 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 5: hard bargain that I'm not going to be out there 212 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 5: until I get this new contract. And now you basically 213 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 5: have these two trains headed towards each other, and who's 214 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 5: going to give first, you know, or are they just 215 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 5: going to run into each other and it's going to 216 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 5: be a disaster. I seem to think someone's going to 217 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 5: give in eventually. I just don't know if it's week one. 218 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: Ooh oh. 219 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 4: So you're saying you think there's like a maybe fifty 220 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: percent chance Micah does not play in week one. The 221 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 4: line's kind of pinballing between seven and six. It's at seven. Now, 222 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: I guess that's assuming, Hey, Michael Parza playing week one. 223 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 5: So I when I was saying that, I kind of 224 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 5: meant that a contract. 225 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 6: Might not be done week one. 226 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 5: I think to give you percentages, I would say, I 227 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 5: think that's an eighty percent chance that Michael Parsons is 228 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 5: on the field. I think there's a seventy five percent 229 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 5: chance that it's without a new contract. I think that 230 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 5: Jerry's pretty dug in on this one. Someone has to 231 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 5: make a first call. He still hasn't talked to David Mullagetta. 232 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 5: A deal is not going to get done until he 233 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 5: talks to David. And so who makes that first call. 234 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 5: I don't get the sense that David's going to make 235 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 5: that call. And so does this just come down you 236 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 5: Jerry Jones one night, having one extra Johnny Walker blue and. 237 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 6: Giving in and making this call. Maybe that's what it is. 238 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: Good stuff, all right, John? You even know his drink. 239 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 4: John Majoda covers the Cowboys for the athletic good stuff man, 240 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 4: Thank you very much. 241 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on. 242 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 4: All right boy, that is a tough job. Rachel, listen, 243 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: I know you covered some beats. 244 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 5: Sam. 245 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: I just can't imagine being on the Dallas Cowboys, this 246 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 4: crap school every single year. Oh. 247 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 7: The only saving grace is that you usually can find 248 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 7: Jerry Jones at a bar somewhere and get quotes from him. 249 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: Probably great stuff. 250 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 7: A lot of ownership in the NFL. You can't say 251 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 7: the same for so at least they've got plenty of fouts. 252 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: Yes, be sure to catch live editions of The Herd 253 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: weekdays and noon eastern non a em Pacific. 254 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 8: Hey, Steve Covino and I'm Rich David and together we're 255 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 8: Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. 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Just search Covino and 276 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 8: Rich wherever you get your podcasts, and of course on 277 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 8: social media that's Covino and Rich. 278 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Rachel with the news. 279 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: No, no, turn on the news. This is the Herdline news. 280 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 7: Huge news in the world of entertainment. Jason, you know it, 281 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 7: you love it. Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift took to 282 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 7: Instagram to announce their engagement in a joint post. The 283 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 7: caption reads, quote, your English teacher and your gym teacher 284 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 7: are getting married. Post already has seven and a half 285 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 7: million likes on Instagram. 286 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 9: It's been up for less than an hour. 287 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: You got take, well, I gotta take. Yeah. 288 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: Let's just say there's some guys on staff here, Rachel 289 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: who are. 290 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 3: Not as keen on the story as you and I. 291 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: You seem to love this stuff. I'm into it. 292 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 7: Listen, you're not in like week eight of the of 293 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 7: the NFL season, guys, Yeah, this happens even training camp anymore. 294 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 4: If this happens next Thursday, an hour before the kickoff, 295 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 4: it's like done as soon as it all kicks off. Yeah, 296 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 4: then it's gambling and fantasy and football. Yeah, but you're right, 297 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 4: these are the dull days of August. 298 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 7: Well to give you, to give you sort of the 299 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 7: world interest in this couple, if not the people on 300 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 7: the Fox Sports staff. When she was on his podcast 301 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 7: just a couple of weeks ago, it set a Guinness 302 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 7: World record, a Guinness World Record most ever listened to 303 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 7: live podcast interview ever ever. 304 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: So there you can tight we you know, we joked 305 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 4: about like the Caitlin Clark impact. 306 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: If you just put her in your. 307 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: Podcast title, your your podcast down. 308 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 3: Let's go up like that was a thing for like 309 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: a year. 310 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. I wonder how many podcasts tomorrow in sports we'll 311 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 4: have Taylor Swift in the headline, just because people will 312 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 4: automatically they want to know what's going on. 313 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: There's an obsession, right. 314 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 7: Here's my last nugget on this you ready engagement ring. 315 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 7: I'm not going to put you on the spot and 316 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 7: ask you how much you spent on yours, but Travis Kelsey, 317 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 7: how much do you think you put out for that 318 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 7: engagement ring? 319 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 9: I'll give you. I'll give you a little context. 320 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 7: It's eight carrots, no stop it, eight carrots carrots? 321 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: Is he bankrupt? That's expensive as hell? By the way, 322 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 3: the post now has twelve million likes. 323 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 9: Well, there you go, more than half a million dollars record. 324 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 6: I don't know. 325 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: I'll just. 326 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: She's going to be a three million dollars. 327 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 9: More than half a million. 328 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: So five to fifty, Oh, that's not that bad. I 329 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: mean with Travis Kelty, he's got money. Does he lead 330 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: the NFL in commercials? 331 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 9: So did you spend what for eighty on your. 332 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: Nope, that's not that bad. 333 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: Five fifty not spent close enough. 334 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 9: Let's tuck a football. 335 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,359 Speaker 7: Joe Mixon has been dealing with an ankle injury this offseason. 336 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 9: This has been a huge mystery. 337 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 7: He's been unable to practice during OTA's Mini caamp. His 338 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 7: last time participating with the team came in their Divisional 339 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 7: round loss to the Chiefs, and yesterday the team announced 340 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 7: Mixon would not be activated from the non football injury 341 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 7: list that at the deadline. That means he has to 342 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 7: miss at least the first four weeks of the season, 343 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 7: and who knows if it's better by then. Jason, we 344 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 7: don't know what happened. It was just in away from 345 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 7: football injury. That's all we've been told. How do you 346 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 7: think this is going to impact? 347 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 9: CJ. 348 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 7: Stroud, who obviously wanted to have a bounce back season 349 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 7: now doesn't have his le running guard. 350 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was jet Ski accident or something like that. 351 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: You know that stuff's not good. Although I did go 352 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 4: on to jet Ski recently it was awesome. So they're 353 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 4: they have an entire new offensive line. They're gonna they're 354 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 4: starting running back. I guess will be Nick Chubb, who 355 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: was not with the team until recently. 356 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: C J. 357 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 4: Stroud got sacked like seventy billion times last I think. 358 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: And they're facing the Rams in the opener. 359 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: Are you gonna go to the game. It's so fun. Yeah, yeah, 360 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: it should be. That should be good. I think the 361 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: Rams beat them in that. I'm not as high on 362 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: the Texans as everyone else. I know, two years. 363 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: Ago they were awesome, and last year they made the playoffs. 364 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: I don't I personally don't see it. I've cooled a 365 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: little bit. The defense is gonna be filthy, led by 366 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 4: will Anderson and company. 367 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: But I I like the Rams in that openum. That 368 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: mixed and loss is big. 369 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 4: Now, if you get mixed and healthy Mixon and Chubb, 370 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: that's pretty nasty. Everybody's rooting for Nick Chubb, who was 371 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: just all around good guy. 372 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're all on in the Texans this year. 373 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 9: I mean, this was this changed my opinion somewhat. 374 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 7: I liked the idea of turning off around somewhat because 375 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 7: Stroud and the new coordinator seem to really have hit 376 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 7: it off and there seems to be a real symbiosis 377 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 7: to how they're running things. CJ is actually going to 378 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 7: get more discretion over plays, calls at the line, stuff 379 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 7: like that this year, so I think he's going to 380 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 7: thrive in that environment. But again, this is a huge 381 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 7: deal and you're throwing around Nick Chubb like it's the 382 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 7: Nick Chubb of two years ago. He's coming back from 383 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 7: such a gruesome injury. He didn't even start playing again. 384 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 7: He missed most of the year he got hurt. Because 385 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 7: I think that was like in Week two or something. 386 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 7: He didn't come back for another year plus into week seven, 387 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 7: and then his first game back I looked it up, 388 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 7: he had eleven carries for twenty two yards. 389 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 9: That's not what you want. 390 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 4: Now. 391 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 7: Obviously, you know you get better and better as you 392 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 7: come back, but there's no guarantee what Nick Chubb is 393 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 7: going to be and if for at least four weeks 394 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 7: maybe more, CJS doesn't have that kind of threat. 395 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 9: I think that's a little bit of a fact. 396 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: Even the wide receiver room. 397 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 4: I mean, Nico Collins, a really good Christian Kirk is 398 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 4: hit or missed. 399 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: The young kid. 400 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 4: Jayden Higgins, the draft pick, He's supposed to be a 401 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: big deal. Tank Dell can't stay healthy, like just unlucky 402 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: for the Texans. 403 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, not a good start that they wanted. 404 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 7: However, there are more teams in worse shape, Jason, because 405 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 7: we now have odds on the hottest seat among head 406 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 7: coaches otherwise known as which NFL coach is most likely 407 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 7: to be fired first. Vegas is looking at Mike at 408 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 7: Mike McDaniel, which you know, looking at you man. 409 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 9: The rest of the top five. 410 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 7: Let's take a look Mike McDaniel, by the way, plus 411 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 7: two hundred, Brian Davil plus four hundred, Chansteak in seven hundred, 412 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 7: and then we get to tie Dave Canalis Kevin Stefanski 413 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 7: seven to fifty. 414 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 4: So look at the screen, Dolphins at Colt and India 415 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 4: is favored. 416 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 3: How is that? 417 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 9: It mean terrible? Have you discussed their quarterback situation lately? 418 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: I mean I don't, I don't. How do you not 419 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: take the Dolphins there. 420 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 4: By the way, the two coach two of the top 421 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 4: three coaches to be first fired, dueling it out in 422 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 4: Week one. 423 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 3: Yes, I would like the Dolphins there. 424 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 4: Now, I don't know what's going up with Devin h 425 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 4: chan Tyreek Hill always seemed to be a mystery. So 426 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 4: it's possible that Miami imploats because you know, it looks like. 427 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: That's McDaniels, the kind of. 428 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 4: Guy who could easily lose the locker room. I like 429 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 4: him personally. I mean I don't know him personally, but 430 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 4: I like everything I've read about him and heard. 431 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 9: Well, that's it. 432 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 7: He's obviously super media friendly, right, and he's just different, 433 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 7: I mean presented as like I embraced my inner nerd, right, 434 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 7: just different from all the coaches, but the coach speak 435 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 7: that you see a. 436 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 9: Year after year. 437 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 7: So I think he became a bit of a media darling. 438 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 7: Obviously had early success, offensive genius. 439 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 9: All of that stuff. 440 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 7: But there's an interesting article in the Washington Post I 441 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 7: saw where they interviewed a couple GMS right of other 442 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 7: teams in the league. 443 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 9: Here are some of the quotes. 444 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 7: It's kind of a dead man walking thing, isn't it. 445 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 7: The quote was what he's selling doesn't look like it's 446 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 7: playing in the locker room anymore. The thing looks like 447 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 7: it's falling apart. Another GM said, Miami feels like a 448 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 7: ticking time bomb. The head coach was all fun and 449 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 7: games for a while, but there's not enough tough love. 450 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 9: So that speaks to the culture. 451 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 7: That you were referencing, and I think that's why it's 452 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 7: it's just And also everyone else Nancy's improved, right, they 453 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 7: didn't improve Jets. 454 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, we'll see, but yeah, Patriots got a 455 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: lot better. Bill's Super Bowl favorites. It's tough for McDaniel. 456 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: You know, he didn't play, and I'm a kind. 457 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 4: Of guy who's rooting for underdogs. I would consider him 458 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 4: an underdog. 459 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 7: No, oh, absolutely, But how do He's kind of amazing 460 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 7: he got to this process, He got a considering. There's 461 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 7: so much groupthink in football, right, Well, let's go out, 462 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 7: not go out on a limb. Let's do the safe thing. 463 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 7: I'm gonna look bad as a GM or an owner 464 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 7: if I take some wild chance, if I get a 465 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 7: guy who's typical for that position and he doesn't work, 466 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 7: no one's going to like single me out. But if 467 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 7: I hire Mike McDaniel, people might be what were they think? 468 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 3: Outside of the box risky? 469 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 4: I like it, yeah, I mean as an outside the 470 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: box guy, website guy. 471 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 3: I love it. Good stuff. Rachel with the news. 472 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 2: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 473 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: Herd Line News. 474 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: All right. 475 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 4: Coming up next, we've got a former NFL coach to 476 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 4: talk about this Shiner Dylan Gabriel situation. 477 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: And also the Baltimore Ravens. 478 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 4: Is this the year that's next on the Herd? 479 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 480 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 2: in noon Eastern not a em Pacific on Fox Sports 481 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 482 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: All right, we have a great guest stopping brought by 483 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 4: right now. Brian Billick, legendary coach in the NFL, won 484 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: a Super Bowl with the Ravens. He is vacationing. Look 485 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: at that summer home. Looks beautiful. You guys got cable 486 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 4: TV up there, right, Yeah, and we actually get radio 487 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 4: and the phone works and it's all great. 488 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're up here. 489 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 10: It's Gott's country up here near the Canadian border, and 490 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 10: the temperature is perfect and that's good golf. 491 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: Love it. 492 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 3: And what about preseason action? Are you just digging into it? 493 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: Are you more like, let me play some golf. 494 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 2: You know, I kind of on the periphery. 495 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 10: I'll wait to the regular season where the crank so, 496 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 10: you know, it's exciting that the regular season is cranking up. 497 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: So I'll do a little more of a deep dive. 498 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 4: Now it's for real, Yes, now that it actually matters, 499 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: I like that. Let me just start with this. Obviously, 500 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: there was a trade. The Browns got rid of Kenny Pickett. 501 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,239 Speaker 4: So they said for months that the Cleveland Browns are like, oh, 502 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 4: we can have four quarterbacks on the roster. 503 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: We will do it. We're prepared. And of course they 504 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: didn't do it. It didn't even come close. And they trade 505 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: a picket. 506 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 4: What do you think this does to that quarterback room 507 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 4: with two rookies and a forty year old Joe Flacco 508 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: who you are kind of familiar with. 509 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 10: Yeah, Flacco can be a great mentor for them, although 510 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 10: knowing Joe, I don't know that that's really how he 511 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 10: sees it because he wants to play. 512 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, he can be that. He brings a. 513 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 10: Wealth of knowledge to it. But at the end of 514 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 10: the day, the Browns have got to make a decision. 515 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 10: They've got to make a decision right now because at 516 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 10: some point those rookies are going to play. And I'm 517 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 10: a big believer that if you draft a guy, you 518 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 10: need to play them, particularly in the first round. Now 519 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 10: they don't have that first round pick, so when it 520 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 10: comes to shudor Sanders, there's really no pressure. It's not 521 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 10: like he was a first round pick where you basically 522 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 10: have to start this guy. The fact that he was 523 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 10: what a fifth round pig. They can do with it 524 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 10: however they want to. If they choose to go with 525 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 10: Flacco and let that go until all of a sudden, 526 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 10: now something happens either to Flacco or the season hasn't 527 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 10: gone well enough, and go with the other guys. But 528 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 10: I think Kevin Stefanski he needs more success right now 529 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 10: than maybe what the two rookie quarterbacks might give it. 530 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting you phrase it that way because some 531 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 4: people are like, hey, he's won Coach of the Year twice. 532 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 4: We had a reporter covering the team said Stefanski's safe. 533 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 534 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 4: You go three and fourteen last year with a win 535 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 4: total that was projected to be nine. What if they 536 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 4: win four games this year, Gabriel stinks, shad Or stinks 537 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 4: like well, stefanskis safe. I'm sure you've dealt with some 538 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 4: of these kinds of stories around the league where the 539 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 4: owners like, oh, it's fine, and then come December, it 540 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 4: ain't fine. 541 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 10: No, Coke, the word coach and safe don't belong in 542 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 10: the same sentence, let alone the same paragraph. Because that's 543 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 10: the pressure of the National Football League. But that is 544 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 10: the challenging from right now. If they go with Flacco 545 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 10: and go with the veteran quarterback because they think they're 546 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 10: a pretty good team and Joe has shown that they 547 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 10: can win with Joe, then that's great. But if it 548 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 10: doesn't and if he doesn't play well or the team 549 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 10: doesn't play well, now you have to go with the 550 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 10: young guys. 551 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 2: I don't know that now. 552 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 10: To kick into the motive, well, they've got young quarterbacks, 553 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 10: so it's just a matter of how well do they develop. 554 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 10: It really doesn't matter how well the season goes. I 555 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 10: think Kevin Stefanski's long enough with the Browns. That might 556 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 10: be a tough sell, so to two. 557 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 3: Other young quarterbacks around the league. 558 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: I just saw the Saints have announced Spencer Rattler has 559 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: won the job and he will get the quarterback spot 560 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 4: in the opener. They just drafted a guy, Tyler Shuck 561 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 4: who's twenty five, in the second round. 562 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: Like, what do these teams do? 563 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 6: Ran? 564 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: It just is puzzling. Spencer Rattler was awful last year. 565 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: Why don't you see what you've got in the young guy, 566 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 4: the rookie that you just drafted. 567 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 10: Well, that's the decision they have to make, and they've 568 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 10: seen enough to feel like I guess they think Rattler, 569 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 10: if this is well, we'll start with him and then 570 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 10: we'll move to the second rounder. 571 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: That doesn't bode well. That usually doesn't go well. 572 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 10: Because now you're really counting on what if he does 573 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 10: play well? And Rattler is one of those guys that 574 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 10: can look really really good or it can look really 575 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 10: really bad. If you can keep it on the thirty 576 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 10: pitch count and you can get the good Spencer Rattler, 577 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 10: that's great. 578 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 2: If he has to throw the. 579 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 10: Ball forty forty five times, now you're going to see 580 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 10: everything that he is and that's some good and that's 581 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 10: some bad. 582 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: So, like I said, even though he's. 583 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 10: Only a second round pick, I'm very much a believer 584 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 10: that you've got to play the quarterbacks that you draft 585 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 10: early to find out what you have. 586 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 3: Totally agree. 587 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 4: Let's go to the team you know, well, the Baltimore Ravens. 588 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 4: You want a super Bowl there in year two, listen close. 589 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 4: They have all the personnel, Their super Bowl odds are there. 590 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: It really comes down to the big postseason games and 591 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 4: Lamar either hasn't delivered or Mark Andrews dropped the pass. 592 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 4: I know you get asked about it a lot, but 593 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 4: your thoughts on the Ravens heading end of the season. 594 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 2: Well, they're as good as anybody in the National Football League. 595 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 10: They've got as dynamic a player at quarterback next to 596 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 10: maybe Patrick Mahomes as there is in the league. They 597 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 10: have they played great, solid defense, So you're right. I mean, 598 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 10: they have been there, and it's been a play here, 599 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 10: been a play there, and you can't just dismiss that. 600 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 10: But by the same token, they've been in that position. 601 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 10: So there's no reason to think they're not going to 602 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 10: be in that position again. And I got to believe 603 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 10: that given the same situation, next time Mark Andrews catches 604 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 10: the ball. So yeah, I think they're clearly going to 605 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 10: be right there. They're going to be in the hunt 606 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 10: notwithstanding injury, and they're as good as anybody in the 607 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 10: National Football League. 608 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, it's tough, man. 609 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 4: Not everybody can win a Super Bowl like Dan Marino 610 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 4: got there, never got back. John Elway could not deliver 611 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 4: until he gets Terrell Davis late in his career. Like, 612 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 4: these are things Lamar and Josh Allen are still relatively young, right, 613 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 4: I mean, is there are we putting too much pressure 614 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 4: on these guys or is it that Patrick Mahomes has 615 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 4: just changed the equation with all his early success. 616 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 10: No, I don't think you're putting too much pressure on them, 617 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 10: because that pressure exists. At the end of the day, 618 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 10: they've got to get to that next level. They've proven 619 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 10: they have the abilities to do all the other things, 620 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 10: and they're with teams that are good enough to take 621 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 10: that next step. Now, they happen to be at a 622 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 10: time when when you also have Patrick Mahomes and the 623 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 10: Kansas City Chiefs. It's like, you know, Phil Micholson's a 624 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 10: phenomenal golfer, but he obviously grew up in an era 625 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 10: of tiger Woods, and there's no denying that that's a 626 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 10: part of how you look at a Phil Mickelson and 627 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 10: everything that he accomplished as opposed to what he could 628 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 10: have accomplished. Well, the same thing with Lamar, the same 629 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 10: thing with Allan. That it comes down to it that 630 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 10: it's going to be compared because they clearly are contemporaries 631 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 10: with Mahomes. They are on good enough teams and it's 632 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 10: just a matter of your right. When you get that 633 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 10: final games, things have to fall into place. The Ravens 634 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 10: did everything they needed to to be in that position 635 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 10: except that final draw by Mark Ambers. 636 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: That's a tough one. Now I see the what shirt there? 637 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 4: X Tech? 638 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 3: You're promoting x Tech? You can tell us a little 639 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,239 Speaker 3: about it. 640 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean this is the fourteenth season, and but 641 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 10: you know this is this is the pad. It's the 642 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 10: best pad. It's the number one patent. Pro and major 643 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 10: college football players like we just talked about Josh Allen, Justin, Jefferson, 644 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 10: Fred Warner, Elite colleges, Oregon, USC, Penn State, and the 645 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 10: like the top high school programs in the country, they're 646 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 10: all wearing and using x Tech pads because it is 647 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 10: the best pad. You know, in the old days, it 648 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 10: was old you know, big pads on big guys and 649 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 10: little pads on little guys. It's not that way anymore. 650 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 10: With the technology we have. This is AI driven. We 651 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 10: have fourteen years of data now that these basically pads 652 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 10: are basically form fitted for the athlete based on height, weight, age, position, 653 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 10: injury history, the things, you know, all the things that 654 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 10: they should be based on. It's absolutely the best paddits 655 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 10: the pad our young people need to be in. I'm 656 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 10: really gratified to see parents now vesting themselves in the process. 657 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 10: They're going to xtechpads dot com. They're seeing the difference 658 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 10: in this in this pad, seeing the difference that it 659 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 10: makes for their players, because nothing's more important than keeping 660 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 10: these players safe in what is a very volatile and 661 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 10: physical game. X Tech pads is that next level of protection. 662 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 4: That's awesome, man, Congratulations on that, and thank you very 663 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 4: much for taking the time. 664 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 3: Enjoy the rest of your summer. 665 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 4: Up. 666 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: All right, we'll do it, all. 667 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 4: Right, Brian, thanks a lot. Brian Billick, super Bowl champ 668 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 4: with the Ravens. 669 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: It's interesting. I was just looking at his bio, Rachel, 670 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: are you ready for this? 671 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 4: He was drafted in the eleventh round in nineteen seventy seven, 672 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 4: two hundred. 673 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 3: And ninety fifth pick. Can you believe they had that 674 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: many picks? 675 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 4: Yes, early seventies, I didn't, or mid seventies. That's kind 676 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 4: of wild. I was going to ask him about brock Perdy, 677 00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 4: but I didn't know how to weave. 678 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: You were an eleventh round pick. 679 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 9: What do you think, mister relevant starting for an team? 680 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: Anyways? 681 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 4: By the way, obviously Rachel and I are surviving the 682 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 4: Travis Kelsey Taylor Swift engagement. I mean very exciting news. 683 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 4: The memes are flying. I mean I saw a funny 684 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 4: one about the how Navidia and Taylor Swift are propping 685 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 4: up the US economy. 686 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 7: Reported here first Jason right here on this show. The 687 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 7: Dale Jones spiked after the engagement announce. 688 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 3: What a world we live in? 689 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 4: I mean, so we got news on day one yesterday 690 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 4: with Terry McClure in middle of the show, and then 691 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 4: today the engagement. So maybe Micah Wednesday and then can 692 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 4: we can we keep getting news every day? 693 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 9: Y'all are way more optimistic than me. 694 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 7: I do not think this Micah Parson Steel is getting 695 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 7: done anytime soon. 696 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, uh little pessimist I am, I. 697 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 7: Am pat I mean, look it might be last minute 698 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 7: Dack style thing, but I just don't see anyone but. 699 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: Jerry think about the shows, the content. That's what we do, 700 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: all right. Day two in the books. Man, what a 701 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 3: fun show.