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Speaker 3: Nate, your preseason is officially over. Yes, it is this.
Speaker 5: Week.
Speaker 3: What have you learned during pre season? Who is this team?
Speaker 3: Do they have an identity?
Speaker 7: What are they? Are they good?
Speaker 4: Are they bad?
Speaker 8: Or they just And y'all gonna laugh at me. We
Speaker 8: got four or five five starters on the offensive line.
Speaker 7: We're gonna be all right.
Speaker 4: We're good, We're good good. You know, it's easy for
Speaker 4: him to say that. Now he's seen the backups play
Speaker 4: and he's.
Speaker 8: Like, Okay, we're not terrible, not terrible, terrible coming, but.
Speaker 10: At this point do they need to just Tyron Smithster
Speaker 10: say okay.
Speaker 6: They brought it up and they spoke to Jerry this morning.
Speaker 6: They brought it up, and you know, Jerry, being the
Speaker 6: settleman that he is, he's still He's like, you know,
Speaker 6: the accent was Tyranne's injury history worth his productive in
Speaker 6: you know when he's on the field, And Jerry kind
Speaker 6: of basically said, like, you know, Tyron's our guy.
Speaker 5: Tyron is you know, he's.
Speaker 6: Still good and we you know, we look forward to
Speaker 6: having him back.
Speaker 5: But then he kind of said that Tyrann maybe if
Speaker 5: he to go this week.
Speaker 6: So you know, Jerry was jerrying when he came to
Speaker 6: the Tyron Smith situation. But I mean, we all have
Speaker 6: to come to the realization of what Tyron Smith is.
Speaker 6: Who Tyron Smith is and what he's done for us
Speaker 6: in the past has been phenomenal. But this version of
Speaker 6: Tyron Smith is just one that we truly can't trust.
Speaker 6: And I do want to get this shout out in
Speaker 6: before we even talking about offensive lineman. We we going
Speaker 6: back and forth and this is not you. I will say,
Speaker 6: you have been the one that has said this. Tyler
Speaker 6: Smith is coming on to being a stud. He is
Speaker 6: no stop asking. He is not playing left tackle too
Speaker 6: good where he's at, He's not playing left tackle not now.
Speaker 6: There has to be a dire emergency.
Speaker 5: He said. I think pullice.
Speaker 4: PFF grade up by the way, I.
Speaker 5: Think it was like a ninety last week. I think, yeah, he's.
Speaker 4: Overall grades like an eighty four.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think they have found a home
Speaker 6: for him. And he has just been like driving dudes
Speaker 6: into the dirt and the way that he's playing with
Speaker 6: the aggression and once he gets his feet really kind
Speaker 6: of into this thing like fully to uproot him and
Speaker 6: then move him back outside, well, he kind of has
Speaker 6: to start the relearning process again because.
Speaker 5: And I should, I should let Nate speak to more
Speaker 5: of this.
Speaker 6: But when you talk about moving from guard, you're talking
Speaker 6: about now being able to operate in a small phone
Speaker 6: move type space to when you move to left tackle,
Speaker 6: that's more of an open area type space.
Speaker 5: Guys have more, more moves, more looping. Yeah, Tyler has,
Speaker 5: he's settled in.
Speaker 12: He is.
Speaker 6: He's kind of sunk his teeth into this thing and
Speaker 6: playing left guard, so you know, maybe the guards on
Speaker 6: either side if possible if something happens, but left guard
Speaker 6: you can start putting that, you start getting the chisel
Speaker 6: out and start etching out in stone. Tyler Smith is
Speaker 6: going to be your left guard going forward.
Speaker 8: What he gives you is what the butcher, Zach Martin
Speaker 8: gives you when you can don't push the mic away
Speaker 8: because I didn't want to punch the I am about
Speaker 8: to punch the mic and go ahead. It No, when
Speaker 8: you have a middle, a center, a center and a
Speaker 8: guard and a guard, you can stop if your feet
Speaker 8: is good enough, which his feet.
Speaker 7: Is good enough, zachs be honest is good enough.
Speaker 8: When you can't stop a dude from pushing you two yards, now,
Speaker 8: that sets it for your tackles to set out wider
Speaker 8: and that runs some defensive vent. Now, if he needs
Speaker 8: to step up and move to side either side, you
Speaker 8: are locked up and you've given him five yards today ants.
Speaker 5: With oh God forbid.
Speaker 4: If he decides to run the ball, then you got
Speaker 4: some rooms, right.
Speaker 8: But if you get knocked back three yards and it
Speaker 8: resets this thing, now it gives some less space to
Speaker 8: move around.
Speaker 7: People don't don't know what one yard can mean.
Speaker 8: When I was looking at uh, the reason I didn't
Speaker 8: like Josh ball at guard because and I told Josh
Speaker 8: this to his face, I say, you give up three
Speaker 8: yards on the set. Does that means by time you
Speaker 8: get hit, you're in the quarterback lap. By time you punch,
Speaker 8: these guys are willing to fight up close. That gives
Speaker 8: our quarterback a chance to step up. And then when
Speaker 8: we do get to the five and seven step drops,
Speaker 8: because you're gonna have to start throwing that that that
Speaker 8: that five and seven step drop when we do get
Speaker 8: to that, that could be.
Speaker 3: So in your opinion, because you always hear about the
Speaker 3: blind side tackle.
Speaker 4: Is the most important position on you can.
Speaker 11: Have him you, in your opinion, if you have a
Speaker 11: strong middle middle three middle three, that's more important to me,
Speaker 11: to you, it's because you position.
Speaker 8: You ask Mike Clauri, you ask all my coaches. You
Speaker 8: know they they don't get me wrong, They kissed them tackles.
Speaker 8: But oh, look how great two is, Look how great
Speaker 8: error Hill is. Because they know that they're dealing with
Speaker 8: nick boss of the world. Uh this, yeah, you're dealing
Speaker 8: with You're dealing with an animal.
Speaker 5: But I'll give you a perfect example.
Speaker 8: When you're dealing with a Reggie White who is like Parsons. Yeah,
Speaker 8: you need you need that tackle.
Speaker 7: But you know what.
Speaker 8: People forget about Jerome Brown who always pushing my big
Speaker 8: behind back deep in that pocket. I'm fighting with everything
Speaker 8: I got and he putting not. Reggie Light got a
Speaker 8: shorter corner, but we had luckily we had big e.
Speaker 8: So you if you have a strong middle that don't
Speaker 8: give up in the ground, now you can run the
Speaker 8: ball at will.
Speaker 7: You You can never stop bit. Go to the forty
Speaker 7: nine ers, they don't have great guards, are great center.
Speaker 8: I go to Philadelphia that does have a great center
Speaker 8: and two good guards. You can never stop their run game.
Speaker 8: If you can never stop the run game, you take
Speaker 8: away everything Q is about. If you can't stop the
Speaker 8: run game. Now you can have a soso quarterback just
Speaker 8: lighting you up, because how do you set your defense
Speaker 8: first and tend what you're gonna do.
Speaker 7: He gonna play actual passion because you're so scared. He
Speaker 7: gonna run.
Speaker 8: He's gonna jump it right over your linebackers in the
Speaker 8: middle of the field. I'm tight ends kettle gonna be
Speaker 8: running straight down the field. But if they can dictate
Speaker 8: to you what's happening and hit your quarterback a couple
Speaker 8: of times, we see what these few guys that came
Speaker 8: through here, the wins that we've had, how they dictated
Speaker 8: to us because we couldn't We couldn't run the ball
Speaker 8: with enough scariness.
Speaker 10: You asked about PFF grades. Yeah, Zack Martin is ranked
Speaker 10: fifth seventy six guards. Tyler smith is first.
Speaker 4: WHOA, that's all pro type.
Speaker 5: Tyler Smith man is he is? He coming along man.
Speaker 3: So that's a great point because he's in more of
Speaker 3: a confined space.
Speaker 5: He's in the guerrilla phone booth.
Speaker 3: That is that helping him with his hands, because the
Speaker 3: big knock on him at the beginning was his hands
Speaker 3: getting outside.
Speaker 5: Well, you could be a.
Speaker 8: Little more confident. I had a hands problem coming into
Speaker 8: the leave because I got a house problems though, because
Speaker 8: I'm a grappler. He's a grappler, he's a mauler. He's
Speaker 8: not a technician. So long as he's working on his technique.
Speaker 8: His feet is good enough to be an excellent guard.
Speaker 8: They're okay to be a left tackle. But he got
Speaker 8: excellent feet to be a guard. And now he's realizing, like, yo, homeboy,
Speaker 8: you can't get so far out there. I'm gonna still
Speaker 8: be able to lay my hands on you. You better
Speaker 8: not come head up. I'm gonna maul you. That's that's
Speaker 8: how I used to feel.
Speaker 7: I used to look at.
Speaker 8: John Randall and all these great Hall of famers that
Speaker 8: I played against, and I can't get in the Hall
Speaker 8: of Fame that I stopped that, I can't get in.
Speaker 5: All the talk. But I'm not like these guys. These
Speaker 5: guys great. I tell you what.
Speaker 4: I've been doing this show with him for what five years?
Speaker 5: Five six years?
Speaker 4: Just make he is never ever talked.
Speaker 5: I like it. I like it.
Speaker 4: That is the first time, and support this.
Speaker 7: You know, no, no, no, no, let me be honest.
Speaker 8: The reason I said that because I was talking to
Speaker 8: Everson Walls and I'm talking to Darren and I was
Speaker 8: talking about Darren Woolson. I'm looking at I'm looking at Everson,
Speaker 8: and I'm looking at how Diggs have been a great athlete,
Speaker 8: interception guy.
Speaker 7: I'm looking at Bland and what he's doing.
Speaker 8: And everybody see and everybody can comparing these guys to
Speaker 8: a young Everson Walls. But if these guys just get
Speaker 8: two or three interceptions year, not five six like ever
Speaker 8: since used to get these guys gonna be in the
Speaker 8: Hall of Fame. And you're comparing these young guys to
Speaker 8: Everson Walls. You didn't have to go outside of this
Speaker 8: house to compare with greatness. But we don't have enough
Speaker 8: people in Dallas, enough media people. You know, our media
Speaker 8: is not mean and vicious like say a Pittsburgh or.
Speaker 5: New York at the raided.
Speaker 8: So when they when they speak, everybody just get in line.
Speaker 8: And so that that's what makes me sometimes just just
Speaker 8: snap out like that because you cannot let Everson Walls
Speaker 8: can't be able to speak or talk or or or
Speaker 8: got something wrong with him and oh now let's put
Speaker 8: him in Well, who is he representing? He's not represented ever,
Speaker 8: because that's not him anymore.
Speaker 6: And when you say speak a talk you mean healthwise, yes,
Speaker 6: not way to A guy gets so old and there
Speaker 6: they can't even be whom they can't be themselves during
Speaker 6: introduction what what?
Speaker 5: Because we did that at the Black College Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8: They had a gentleman up there, and I almost come
Speaker 8: on glue they did the gentleman.
Speaker 7: The gentleman talking one of the first guys to be
Speaker 7: drafted into the NFL.
Speaker 8: I can't think, excuse me off, not being able to
Speaker 8: remember his name, but they up there just interviewing him,
Speaker 8: and he was saying the same thing over and over
Speaker 8: and over. Everybody kind of snickering, and I'm glad his
Speaker 8: wifely and and that's where the last.
Speaker 7: Few years, the seniors, that's what has happened.
Speaker 8: I don't want my son Trey up there saying hell
Speaker 8: when they noon he's been dead eight years, don't I
Speaker 8: signed on't. No, We respectfully declined, because.
Speaker 7: It don't take all that. You either let it expire
Speaker 7: and let it pass, or you do it while they're alive.
Speaker 8: And they got and they can comforhend what's going down
Speaker 8: that That's why I said what I said. But anyway,
Speaker 8: back to who was talking about he gonna be a beast.
Speaker 8: He's gonna be a beast.
Speaker 4: What have you seen in his development? What's what's what's
Speaker 4: changed in the last.
Speaker 7: His confidence, his confidence.
Speaker 8: You know before he was he was going back to
Speaker 8: college and just mauling people. And every time you saw
Speaker 8: him he was just Now he's trying to do the
Speaker 8: right thing. And that comes from the coach too. Mike
Speaker 8: Clario is you know I heard on another program which
Speaker 8: you don't mind me speaking ofout Derek right with our
Speaker 8: money and uh, they were talking about surprises and you know, surprises.
Speaker 8: Who's been a surprise player. It ain't that so much
Speaker 8: a surprise player. Mike Clario has been the guy I
Speaker 8: said at the beginning of the year, either he gonna
Speaker 8: be the goat one way or the other, he gonna
Speaker 8: be the goat. So and he's been the goat, you know,
Speaker 8: uh he and if you watch him, I know you
Speaker 8: watch it just and every time they call the team
Speaker 8: up offensively, they come from the sideline and Mike calls
Speaker 8: the team about who you you see him in there
Speaker 8: talking to his boys. Whatever coach say he got, he
Speaker 8: got a coaching point behind that. Whether it's a pass
Speaker 8: I run.
Speaker 7: He got a coaching point he's got energy that you.
Speaker 5: Would not believe.
Speaker 8: And then watching me, I wish you would go to
Speaker 8: lunch sometime, Jeff. Watching man, I mean once you met him,
Speaker 8: thanks a ball energy and once he get to know you,
Speaker 8: Oh man, how you doing.
Speaker 5: Jee's great to see you. Man. You give like, hey, coach,
Speaker 5: that's a great job.
Speaker 7: You're bringing dog along.
Speaker 5: No, no, the credit goes to that kid.
Speaker 7: He's worked hard.
Speaker 13: Man.
Speaker 7: I saw him standing up in training camp.
Speaker 6: But to add on to that point when you're talking
Speaker 6: about todder Smith and his development, one of the biggest
Speaker 6: things as a former player when you when you when
Speaker 6: you get indoctrinated into the the National Football League, sometimes
Speaker 6: your head begins to spend right because you're you're you're
Speaker 6: going from and the smaller the program, the bigger the
Speaker 6: leap is when you're getting to the league. Not only
Speaker 6: in the lessons, because let's be honest, right, and I'm
Speaker 6: not saying that there aren't good coaches at the smaller
Speaker 6: school levels. There are, they are, but when you go
Speaker 6: to but but you know, when you go to the
Speaker 6: the Alabamas, the Texas of the world, those guys are
Speaker 6: former NFL coaches, former You know what I'm saying, so
Speaker 6: their their skill set, they just their tool bag. They
Speaker 6: have a lot more tools in it. And then the
Speaker 6: competition level that matters. That matters when you're playing up
Speaker 6: against a guy where you can just go and grab
Speaker 6: him and that just be it, and he don't have
Speaker 6: nothing to really combat you just being brute, brute stronger
Speaker 6: than him. When you play up, you're playing guys with
Speaker 6: more talent that's gonna be on the next level. So
Speaker 6: when Tyler Smith comes in, he makes the leap. But
Speaker 6: then when you settle him at a position, see when
Speaker 6: you bounce him back and forth, it's pretty line is
Speaker 6: already spinning, trying to learn the game, trying to figure
Speaker 6: out how I'm gonna stop these guys across from me
Speaker 6: that's been in the league five, six and seven years,
Speaker 6: who got tools in their tool bag, and you know
Speaker 6: at that are as strong, if not stronger, or more
Speaker 6: athletic than I am. But also, one day I'm learning tackle,
Speaker 6: one day I'm learning guard, one day I'm back guard,
Speaker 6: the other day I'm at tackled. And now I really
Speaker 6: can't I can't figure this whole thing out. But when
Speaker 6: you sit me in a place and you say, son,
Speaker 6: you're gonna be out left guard. There's a sense of
Speaker 6: ease that comes over you. You say, okay, now I
Speaker 6: can just focus in on this. I can focus in
Speaker 6: on all the small, little minute details on what it's
Speaker 6: going to take for me to be really good at
Speaker 6: that position. And I think that's why when we talk
Speaker 6: about well, just Talas Smith out, they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: no no no, he's staying. This is where he's gonna stay.
Speaker 6: We'll figure the rest of this stuff out. We'll figure
Speaker 6: the other stuff out with Tuma, with tying or whatever
Speaker 6: it is. But we're gonna leave this right here, and
Speaker 6: we're gonna just keep letting these bricks build and build
Speaker 6: and build and build, and allow him to be so
Speaker 6: much better at this position in the bouncing him back
Speaker 6: and forth. When now the level of confusion can come
Speaker 6: into play, and now you mess it. You can mess
Speaker 6: You can mess a player round, You can mess a
Speaker 6: player up like that when the player isn't confident in itself,
Speaker 6: and and now they go out there and they give
Speaker 6: up two or three sacks, they start they get into
Speaker 6: their own mind and you can never get you can
Speaker 6: you can literally lose a good player mentally from something
Speaker 6: like that, I guess the break, I mean the.
Speaker 5: Chre.
Speaker 7: Now you're in the baseball.
Speaker 5: Ranger.
Speaker 4: Check the Rangers score.
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Speaker 4: All right, before we kick off the next topic, let's
Speaker 4: take a few phone calls. Chris, who do we have
Speaker 4: on the phone?
Speaker 17: Antoine and Maryland Twin twe.
Speaker 4: Hello te there.
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean hold on no oh no no no
Speaker 18: no no no no no, get us somebody else, man,
Speaker 18: please get us somebody else.
Speaker 4: All right, Chris, if you ever hear that again?
Speaker 7: Yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Know what, now that I think about it, he might
Speaker 3: have been telling somebody to trying to talk to him.
Speaker 7: I know. I don't.
Speaker 5: Wow. Here we go, Arthur, He sprint text.
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 12: What's going on? Gentlemen? You you look im gonna be real,
Speaker 12: real brief. I've been a coboy ever since I was
Speaker 12: seven years old and I'm sixty eight, so I done
Speaker 12: heard all the YAI and I've heard all the criticism
Speaker 12: and put downs and everything else. I've lived through all
Speaker 12: of that. Grabbed a hold of the Super Bowl victories
Speaker 12: when we had. Now San Francisco is a tough team.
Speaker 12: There's no denying that. The margin of victory between the
Speaker 12: two games that they played the two seasons prime they
Speaker 12: were right in there with them. Because of our own
Speaker 12: misques and backfires is what ultimately cost us the game.
Speaker 12: So people talking about being afraid of San Francisco, San Francisco,
Speaker 12: to be just as afraid of the cow The other
Speaker 12: the other point I wanted to make was, uh, something
Speaker 12: that Justin made to come in about a couple of
Speaker 12: days yesterday. I think it was, Uh, you can't coach
Speaker 12: designs and walk and and and uh that will catapult
Speaker 12: you into great if you got to coach, that's a
Speaker 12: waste of death. So no Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Thanks, thanks than absolutely thank you.
Speaker 7: So I'm loving what this gentleman saying.
Speaker 8: But sir, you're just left it just enough space as
Speaker 8: you doubt and won't to just enough space.
Speaker 5: Did you get it?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 5: But my thing was, and it's not me, it's not
Speaker 5: me defending the Niners, but say it saying you lost twice.
Speaker 6: The Niners have the Ninus have no reason to fear you,
Speaker 6: not saying that they shouldn't respect you, but they big
Speaker 6: bro right now like that that is That's the thing.
Speaker 6: And and you know, when we talk about these miscues
Speaker 6: that happened in the Niners game.
Speaker 5: Like a lot of times.
Speaker 6: You know, we're talking about what well the miscues that
Speaker 6: happened in the Jets game and the Giants game. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we like the Cowboys caused those sad you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying you, So we have to we have to
Speaker 6: look get that and go you know, yeah, we had
Speaker 6: some miscues, but some of those miscues were calls because
Speaker 6: of the Niners greatness. So and I'm not saying that
Speaker 6: the Cowboys cannot they are they are set roster wise
Speaker 6: man for man to go up and have a great
Speaker 6: battle against the Niners. But they have to prove to
Speaker 6: the Niners. The Niners have already proved twice that that
Speaker 6: they're the that they're the better team. Yeah, and now
Speaker 6: whatever happens this Sunday will change some things one way
Speaker 6: or anything.
Speaker 5: One way or the other.
Speaker 6: You will either continue to have doubt about yourself against
Speaker 6: this team or you will exercise.
Speaker 3: You will exercise right, So question about that, because you're right,
Speaker 3: they are big, bro. That's probably why I'm picking against
Speaker 3: the Cowboys on Friday.
Speaker 8: He's trying to heads up heads Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Change my mind, But go show me, go show me
Speaker 3: you've shown me that you can't be this team the
Speaker 3: last two times? How important is it mentally for this
Speaker 3: team to get over that hump and go on the
Speaker 3: road and beat them and say put the league on
Speaker 3: notice and go, we're for real this time? Or if
Speaker 3: you get beat again, how bad does that mess with you?
Speaker 3: And go, we just can't beat these jokers, like we
Speaker 3: everything we we can't get over the We can't beat them.
Speaker 4: And we gotta face them again to get the NFC Championship.
Speaker 10: You're gonna go, You're gonna get The road will go
Speaker 10: through forty nine ers eventually, So.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is how important is that from.
Speaker 5: So you already gave the game away.
Speaker 7: The road will eventually go through them.
Speaker 10: You're gonna play it at some point. The forty nine
Speaker 10: ers are gonna be in the playoffs. Cowboys are gonna
Speaker 10: be in the playoffs. You're gonna have to but they
Speaker 10: can come to it could be.
Speaker 4: The Super Bowl.
Speaker 9: Not it's gonna go through them.
Speaker 4: I gotta play them.
Speaker 9: But I'm saying you got no like.
Speaker 5: Technically, come home road is through When you.
Speaker 8: Play all of your priests, all of your postseasons at home,
Speaker 8: the road coming through you.
Speaker 7: You may stay after defeat them.
Speaker 8: But the road it is so much different playing at home.
Speaker 5: You yeah, well, they beat us at home.
Speaker 6: Remember they came back with the boom box and had
Speaker 6: super grillin what I'm saying they had.
Speaker 5: They had Jimmy.
Speaker 6: Garoppolo when you and this the superprivle and I were
Speaker 6: staying up.
Speaker 7: To them when I played and we went up to them.
Speaker 8: You have to be supremely confident because the adversity you're
Speaker 8: gonna face on the road is you don't get the
Speaker 8: recovery time that.
Speaker 7: Your fans give you at home. But when you have
Speaker 7: not won.
Speaker 8: You still because we had our first Super Bowl run,
Speaker 8: true super Bowl run, we knew how important it was
Speaker 8: to beat the giants up there.
Speaker 7: That's when em and heard his shoulder to brain this thing.
Speaker 9: To us that makes this game bigger than right.
Speaker 7: Disciple of don't touch this, don't you.
Speaker 5: Boys, boys where you came from the boys. He wanted
Speaker 5: to be slowly.
Speaker 4: From from the south side of this.
Speaker 5: To the sophisticated side.
Speaker 8: You know, I've talked to several people the same play
Speaker 8: on words. I've asked several shows, is are the challengers
Speaker 8: are the test? And you know and Broadest gave me
Speaker 8: the best soundser you know, you know brought it. He's
Speaker 8: gonna go into a spill. I mean, like, proud man,
Speaker 8: we got a podcast.
Speaker 5: You gotta what do you say?
Speaker 8: You just basically the run game. What does it take.
Speaker 8: They're gonna play bully ball, which you said a lot
Speaker 8: of times. They're gonna be physical.
Speaker 7: Uh. The main thing they do not fear. Our biggest fear.
Speaker 8: If you had to bring just this thing in house,
Speaker 8: one word, Parsons.
Speaker 7: That's everybody's biggest fear. That's facing the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 8: Well you say Parsons and they locker room they be like, Okay,
Speaker 8: he's special.
Speaker 4: We got some things from I say, my god.
Speaker 5: But no.
Speaker 6: But but but I mean their conf their Supreme Conference
Speaker 6: come from. Well, okay, you guys have the next up
Speaker 6: and coming thing. We got the thing we literally we
Speaker 6: we have we we have seventy one's won't be out there, yeah,
Speaker 6: all unless something happened during the week, so they.
Speaker 4: Be afraid to punch you in the face.
Speaker 6: Either literally and figuratively on social media.
Speaker 7: Sometimes you gotta get that fifty y.
Speaker 6: But but yeah, I mean when you got Trent Williams
Speaker 6: out there, it's it's it's a different feeling.
Speaker 5: You go, you know what trick, you can take that.
Speaker 6: But no, you can go in the huddle at times
Speaker 6: and and and you can you can you can relate
Speaker 6: to this where sometimes your quarterback of your oh so,
Speaker 6: your head coach go, we need this.
Speaker 5: We need this down trick we were putting.
Speaker 6: We going three wide, ain't gonna be no help and
Speaker 6: Trent and go, I got you, and they can line
Speaker 6: up eleven out there. I'm not saying that Michael won't
Speaker 6: beat them or can't beat them, but there are some
Speaker 6: times when you get BECAUSEDQ can say the same thing,
Speaker 6: Michaeh need it, we need it right, And those are
Speaker 6: the level of players. When you talk to a Michaeh
Speaker 6: Parsons and you go, we need it and he can
Speaker 6: deliver it. When you talk to a Trent Williams, you go,
Speaker 6: we need it and he can deliver it. So you
Speaker 6: know it's great going on great. So a lot of
Speaker 6: times when that matchup happens, if it happens, when it happens,
Speaker 6: they sometimes can feel like, listen, we don't always have to.
Speaker 5: Give help over there.
Speaker 6: If we need to get all if we need to
Speaker 6: get everybody out into a route for a situational thing.
Speaker 6: We feel confident enough that seventy one on eleven will
Speaker 6: wash will wash out two great on greats and they'll
Speaker 6: just battle each other and then if we if we
Speaker 6: feel like we're losing, then we'll go and add help.
Speaker 5: But they feel like we're good. They feel the same
Speaker 5: way we feel.
Speaker 6: We good.
Speaker 10: Formula PFF has Trent Williams ranked number one out of
Speaker 10: seventy one good.
Speaker 6: This is because this game is going to matter. This
Speaker 6: game is going to This game is gonna matter mentally.
Speaker 6: It's gonna matter mentally.
Speaker 3: And is mentally you have to think this team's thinking
Speaker 3: what we're thinking.
Speaker 5: We hadn't beat these guys.
Speaker 7: Yeah we can't.
Speaker 4: We can beat these but we haven't. Like how big
Speaker 4: is that though? If they if they do beat them,
Speaker 4: is that huge?
Speaker 6: It's it's a confidence builder. But you also understand that.
Speaker 4: Now then you got a trap game the next week.
Speaker 6: But you but you know that, you know that in
Speaker 6: order to NAT's point earlier, you know that in order
Speaker 6: to get Jerry said this this morning, in order to
Speaker 6: get to Vegas, you're gonna have to beat this team twice. Right,
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to beat this team twice. You're gonna
Speaker 6: have to beat this team this week, and then you're
Speaker 6: gonna have to see them again at some point in
Speaker 6: time between now and EFAT.
Speaker 3: And you have to beat the Eagles at least twice,
Speaker 3: maybe three times.
Speaker 5: Tough roadway. It looks tough road to hoe.
Speaker 3: All right, one more call Chris and then we'll go
Speaker 3: to break who we got. We have Kyle at mcgiord
Speaker 3: Air Force Base and to come in Washington.
Speaker 4: Hey, okay, what's up Kyle. Thank you for your service.
Speaker 19: Thank you very much for the support. Sirs. I appreciate it.
Speaker 19: I know I sound like I'm twelve on the phone.
Speaker 12: That can.
Speaker 5: You said it. You said what I was thinking. It's
Speaker 5: all right, my brother. We thank you for your service though.
Speaker 5: That's all that matters.
Speaker 19: Yes, sir, No, I have a quick question. So I
Speaker 19: don't know. I watched all twenty two. Huge Dallas fan
Speaker 19: since birth, twenty eight came out the womb blacking Dallas
Speaker 19: Cowboys football. I saw Dak being able to pull the
Speaker 19: ball off his own read in the red zone. Why
Speaker 19: is he not doing Is that by design or is
Speaker 19: that because he's just not seeing it? Or what? Because
Speaker 19: I remember I think was Hindershot came over in motion
Speaker 19: and you after the play, he slapped from the chest,
Speaker 19: he and do what are you doing? I'm just curious
Speaker 19: on why we're not getting the zone reads in the
Speaker 19: red zone. That's my question.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thanks man, thanks for listening to the show.
Speaker 6: When Dak is processing the the zone read of the
Speaker 6: r p O, it's you're playing off the defensive end, right,
Speaker 6: You're looking at the boxing and you're playing off the
Speaker 6: defensive end for whatever reason. And it's still a mystery
Speaker 6: to all of us. The rookie Dac is no longer there.
Speaker 6: The guy who will tuck the football and run on
Speaker 6: a consistent basis is no longer there. And we've we've
Speaker 6: tossed around the idea of is it because he wants
Speaker 6: to be known more as a passer? Is it because
Speaker 6: he fears of having another injury like he had against
Speaker 6: the Giants when he broke his ankle? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Could they have told him, hey, only run when you
Speaker 4: have to run?
Speaker 7: Could?
Speaker 5: We don't could they could have? They could have? Or
Speaker 5: he's just.
Speaker 6: There because of the injury, right, you know, I mean,
Speaker 6: there are we we've all been trying to process this thing.
Speaker 5: Of what is it?
Speaker 6: Because we all see it, We all go, man, you
Speaker 6: should you had the whole whole left side was wide open,
Speaker 6: the whole right side was wide up. Hey, just tuck
Speaker 6: the ball and run this time.
Speaker 10: Is there any chance McCarthy's saving his bag of tricks
Speaker 10: for a forty nine ers game?
Speaker 6: No, because this is because you wouldn't have run that
Speaker 6: extra point play. Yes, I mean because there are a
Speaker 6: number of times, even daty back to last year, we've
Speaker 6: been asking for when Dak Prescott bro break the break
Speaker 6: containment and go like, stop trying to live and die
Speaker 6: in the pocket, Like there are moments where you can
Speaker 6: just be an athlete and go pick up the first down,
Speaker 6: go pick up that much needed yard. Is you don't
Speaker 6: always have to try to be a pocket passer. So
Speaker 6: you know, to answer your question, brother, no one knows.
Speaker 4: You know how we can find out.
Speaker 3: Kurt tomorrow, to an open locker room, go up to
Speaker 3: Dak and say, why haven't you been running the ball?
Speaker 6: And that's that that's been snarky lately, that's been snarky lately.
Speaker 5: He knows you, that's DA's been snarky lately. He might
Speaker 5: he might know you. He might snap back, say.
Speaker 3: We have we have four theories on the show, and
Speaker 3: just make something up. Say here's a B C or
Speaker 3: d is it any of those? Just don't say snake bite,
Speaker 3: you don't go talk to it.
Speaker 4: We'll get somebody else to go ask.
Speaker 5: We'll get a beam to go in there.
Speaker 4: Now, all right, let's take our last break. When we
Speaker 4: come back, we'll get to some more antoine. We love
Speaker 4: you man, We're sorry.
Speaker 5: No, we're not We're not sorry. We're not sorry.
Speaker 7: At your phone, bro, you should have muted that phone.
Speaker 4: We love you callback some more calls like.
Speaker 7: Whooping your kids.
Speaker 5: I love you.
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Speaker 4: Up about this show a lot of things. But every
Speaker 4: one of us jumped.
Speaker 7: On him at the same time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was no hesitation.
Speaker 4: Kurt, did you even jump in Yeah, yeah, it was
Speaker 4: it was no, it was just like you can't.
Speaker 5: It's like a parent.
Speaker 21: Yeah, did he get back in? Did he get back
Speaker 21: did he get back in? Or he can't make it?
Speaker 21: You guysn't gotta go back?
Speaker 3: Who we have?
Speaker 5: You're Eric in North Carolina? Hey boy, what's up?
Speaker 12: Man?
Speaker 5: Was going down?
Speaker 7: Not much?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 22: You take care of the kids.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 22: I've been listening to trying to get through you guys. Boys, man,
Speaker 22: but I just want to say, Cowboys for life. I
Speaker 22: think we're gonna win. I don't know why, how.
Speaker 4: But I think he's gonna get spoken like a true
Speaker 4: Cowboy fan.
Speaker 6: I don't know, but we outside showed me that we
Speaker 6: can do it.
Speaker 5: I hope you there you go.
Speaker 4: I hope you hope in one hand and then the other.
Speaker 22: Man, y'all keep bringing that thunder man. I'll be talking
Speaker 22: all throughout the season.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 22: I let y'all boys later.
Speaker 4: Man, all right, thank Eric, man, thanks for listening.
Speaker 5: All right. So, I don't know how, I don't know,
Speaker 5: but they gonna do it.
Speaker 4: They gonna do it.
Speaker 3: Kurt has a question he wants to know, and it
Speaker 3: seems like it probably happens all over the league, but
Speaker 3: it seems like Belichick was the master at this bringing
Speaker 3: in players.
Speaker 5: The week of that either got cut, doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter like Trey Lance being on this team
Speaker 4: does not matter. He doesn't have any insight or.
Speaker 8: You know what I'm I'm not being funny and I'm
Speaker 8: being dead serious.
Speaker 7: He could the grass the system.
Speaker 6: Nigga, Because my thing is always what what can they
Speaker 6: tell you that you can't see on film? That you
Speaker 6: one can't see on film? And then two what can
Speaker 6: they tell you that's going to help you? When George
Speaker 6: Kittle was running down at you, when Trick Williams grabs
Speaker 6: grabs a.
Speaker 3: Hersty McCaffrey Christian McCaffrey sixty in front of you, and
Speaker 3: you come out of your cleaton, So you.
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So it's like it's it's and I get the whole
Speaker 6: hand sign thing and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But really, so was that just a coincidence that Belichick
Speaker 3: or did it just is it obvious? When the Patriots
Speaker 3: I turned on the film week for.
Speaker 6: Those of you that watch all twenty two, Yes, those
Speaker 6: of you who watched all twenty two.
Speaker 5: You get you get two You get two looks.
Speaker 6: You get the side profile view of the of the
Speaker 6: length of the field, and then you get the back
Speaker 6: copy and when you get the back copy, if there
Speaker 6: is any hands signals that are going out there, I
Speaker 6: can see them, so you're I can see them and
Speaker 6: not get to put piece them together. There is nothing
Speaker 6: that when a player goes to another team that they're
Speaker 6: going to say, you know, hey, what is this is?
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter because when when when Michael Parsons is
Speaker 6: running at you, guess what, you're not thinking about.
Speaker 5: Hand signal? When Mike, when.
Speaker 6: Michael Parsons is lined over top of you and and
Speaker 6: he's doing that, you know, he's putting that foot in
Speaker 6: the ground and he's doing that.
Speaker 4: He's playing basketball, he's.
Speaker 5: Playing about the laughing you're thinking about is what did
Speaker 5: Trey Land say?
Speaker 4: Again?
Speaker 6: You aren't thinking about that. You're thinking about God dag
Speaker 6: here the joke wer come again?
Speaker 12: Enough?
Speaker 6: So so yeah, when you hear those things and and
Speaker 6: it's a back and forth play because even I think
Speaker 6: Broughton shining shoten hammer come out like, yah, you know
Speaker 6: we might change the signal.
Speaker 9: Brothers.
Speaker 5: Ain't trying to change those singles.
Speaker 6: Man, Once I get something much work, Yeah, because such
Speaker 6: other stuff when you're getting the heat of the battle,
Speaker 6: if if so, like for example, when I played with Tony.
Speaker 6: When Tony will look outside, he will look at you
Speaker 6: and he would give you an open hand like you're
Speaker 6: giving an open hand like this, but down that meant
Speaker 6: run a go. Right, So now if we get into
Speaker 6: a game and for the last nine months that has
Speaker 6: meant a go.
Speaker 4: You're gonna probably run a go.
Speaker 5: If you change it.
Speaker 6: Up now and you're doing something like you're doing you're
Speaker 6: doing this, I'm.
Speaker 5: Like that was that? Oh it's too late.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you go with what you go and go like
Speaker 6: like Nate, like you know said about in the past,
Speaker 6: you know what's coming? Can you stop it? I'm gonna
Speaker 6: run this go now what now? What you're gonna do?
Speaker 6: What You're gonna get cooked or you're not gonna get cooked.
Speaker 8: The dude that came into the game against CD Lamb,
Speaker 8: he in his mind should have say, you know what,
Speaker 8: I don't care how he do it. He going deep, Well,
Speaker 8: it's a double move off the line. Whether he run
Speaker 8: raight to me where he's slating and go ahead, we
Speaker 8: all knew you do, dude. It just he couldn't stop it.
Speaker 6: When when the starter goes out and you had to
Speaker 6: come in into the new guy, it's almost unwritten cold.
Speaker 4: We're coming after you.
Speaker 6: If the starter goes out the best player, We're coming
Speaker 6: at you.
Speaker 5: Where are going to check to see if you actually
Speaker 5: don't play?
Speaker 8: Was you over there with your watching the game or
Speaker 8: was you continue to stay loose we go?
Speaker 6: Was you over there eating sunflower sea and thank you?
Speaker 6: Or was you locked in?
Speaker 4: All right, let's take one more call before we get
Speaker 4: out of here.
Speaker 3: Who we got Chris Mohammad and Kuwait, Hey Mohammed.
Speaker 13: Hey, hey, guys, excuse me what I called? There's a
Speaker 13: three second delay tweet what I say and what I
Speaker 13: can hear you reply on. So uh sometimes you can
Speaker 13: ask me a question and I won't hear it till
Speaker 13: three seconds in. But after that last game, the one
Speaker 13: before when we lost, I realized how how right uh
Speaker 13: Nate was about drafting a uh an offensive lineman. And
Speaker 13: you know, looking at the San Francisco game, I don't
Speaker 13: think this Dallas Cowboys team is the same as the
Speaker 13: one that lost to them last year. I'd like for
Speaker 13: you guys to comment on that. But I have a question.
Speaker 13: What was it that Bill Belichick saw in the first
Speaker 13: series that made him call a time out and use
Speaker 13: prevent Dallas from scoring a touchdown. Thank you, guys, I'll listen.
Speaker 5: Thanks Bob.
Speaker 8: Now I'm gonna ask that that was his best and
Speaker 8: last and goodest decision of the whole game. Because over
Speaker 8: with Jesse about the coaches and players, don't ever think
Speaker 8: a coach gonna be that great. Just don't ever thank.
Speaker 5: You without great players.
Speaker 4: The players stopped.
Speaker 7: Them, not Belichick.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the players, man, You line them up and great
Speaker 8: players make plays and.
Speaker 5: You get the credit for it. Yeah, you just get
Speaker 5: the credit for it.
Speaker 4: His other question, is this Cowboys team different this year?
Speaker 5: We're gonna find out?
Speaker 9: I want to if they're tough Enough's team different?
Speaker 5: Because we talked about how physicals, who are they built different?
Speaker 9: Are they built different? Now?
Speaker 5: Mentally? Yea, mentally we won't know.
Speaker 6: We won't know until you get into the ring with
Speaker 6: the bully, Like that's gonna tell the telle.
Speaker 3: Can you be like like Mike Tyson said, everybody got
Speaker 3: a plan.
Speaker 6: Like because if you're if you're looking to say, how
Speaker 6: can we judge ourselves?
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 6: Well, we well what we what we did the Daddy
Speaker 6: Dimes and the Giants we had there was zero resistance
Speaker 6: what we did to the Jets. There was zero resistance
Speaker 6: right we we we slipped up against the Cardinals, what
Speaker 6: we did to the New England Patriots, there was zero resistance.
Speaker 6: There was nothing in that game that made you kind
Speaker 6: of really have to pick yourself off the mat and
Speaker 6: and really figure out who you are. And like I
Speaker 6: said this, I said this two years ago. There is
Speaker 6: a difference between having tough players and a tough culture
Speaker 6: or a tough team. For a long time, the Cowboys
Speaker 6: had had a player or two that were just tough,
Speaker 6: but as a whole, they were not a physical, tough team.
Speaker 3: Let me ask y'all this, This will tell you a
Speaker 3: lot about what you think without having to say what
Speaker 3: you think. Do you think the forty nine ers have
Speaker 3: had a game in the last year or two that
Speaker 3: looked like our game against Arizona where they just missed assignments,
Speaker 3: were out of place, just looked like they lost.
Speaker 4: Their mind for a game.
Speaker 6: I mean, they haven't lost the they lost one regular
Speaker 6: season game since since brock Party has come in and take.
Speaker 8: Over that sometime against d Rams. If you go back
Speaker 8: and look at them play against d Rams, the Rams
Speaker 8: can make them, but not for the whole game, just
Speaker 8: parts of the game.
Speaker 7: And that that is.
Speaker 8: My issue with the Cowboys is not that they lost
Speaker 8: to the Cognis.
Speaker 5: It's how you lost, right, I.
Speaker 8: Mean, you want to get beat in this league, but
Speaker 8: you don't want to consistency of Okay, cowboys lost.
Speaker 7: I guarantee that they gave them one hundred and fifty
Speaker 7: yards Russian.
Speaker 5: That's that's just how it is.
Speaker 7: You know, Oh Cowboys out.
Speaker 8: Yeah, one hundred and fifty yards rushing at least, That's
Speaker 8: just how you look at it. You know, guys, for
Speaker 8: freelancing on defense when you don't find that, you don't
Speaker 8: say that with this fortune, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't say that.
Speaker 8: You don't say God, well, guys, it's kind of lost concentration.
Speaker 4: I think that's the difference.
Speaker 10: They lost last year to the Bears, they lost to
Speaker 10: the Broncos, they lost to the Falcons.
Speaker 9: I mean they lost the Yeah, they shouldn't have lost.
Speaker 3: Too, But did they look did they lose, like Nate said,
Speaker 3: lose the.
Speaker 4: Way that we lost it Arizona. I don't know, because
Speaker 4: I don't watch enough their game.
Speaker 8: When you have went to the NFC Championship game and
Speaker 8: you've done it repeatedly, that means you've had a longer
Speaker 8: preseason than most. A lot of guys play one or two,
Speaker 8: I mean a long postseason than most. Gotta play one
Speaker 8: pre postseason game out out in each one of those games.
Speaker 8: When you play an NFC championship or a FC champion,
Speaker 8: that takes a lot out of you. That's why I
Speaker 8: didn't mind the two weeks. That that is a hurdle,
Speaker 8: that's hard to get over. But when you do it,
Speaker 8: going to that uh, that that that that super Bowl
Speaker 8: for the emotions, and you don't even know it because
Speaker 8: it feels so good that you're there. I don't know
Speaker 8: what the losers feel like. I'm just taking you from winning.
Speaker 4: Bringing it.
Speaker 5: I love it hard.
Speaker 7: But hey, yeah, but that's another story.
Speaker 12: Man.
Speaker 4: Let's go, good show, fellas. We'll be back tomorrow, same time,
Speaker 4: same place. Chris, Thanks for keeping us on.
Speaker 8: Come boys, We're gonna stay this side, gonna stay hanging
Speaker 8: with the boys you everyday.
Speaker 5: People that support us, keep calling these suits. We're gonna
Speaker 5: boys south side.
Speaker 3: Find Thanks for keeping Chris company, brother Will, Thanks for
Speaker 3: coming downstairs and saying hi yesterday.
Speaker 4: It's good seeing you again.
Speaker 8: You want to talk kid, talk with you, talk about babies.
Speaker 6: All right, if you ever git a black man with
Speaker 6: long hair to sit in for me one day, because
Speaker 6: car Bro will, don't you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he ain't got no reason.
Speaker 4: We'll be back tomorrow same time as
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