WEBVTT - Jim and Ron Watkins Start a New Grift

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<v Speaker 1>Q and On is now the most prolific online conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>theory of the twenty one century. None of their predictions

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<v Speaker 1>came true. Q has vanished and the storm never came,

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<v Speaker 1>but Q and On is still alive. I'm Jake Hanrahan,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is Series two of Q Clearance, a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>shedding light on the ongoing Q and on conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a production of Kudatar Media and I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>In today's episode, we're going to be looking at what

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<v Speaker 1>Jim and Ron Watkins did next. If you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>those two names, please please go and listen to series one.

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<v Speaker 1>But basically that's who I think through all this research

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<v Speaker 1>and talking to people, that's who I think was ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>running Q and on, writing the drops, posting them out,

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<v Speaker 1>spreading it everywhere. I think Jim and Ron Watkins were

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<v Speaker 1>behind it, so do many many different people now to

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<v Speaker 1>what they were doing. Next, we're going to speak to

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<v Speaker 1>Julian Field from the excellent Q and Non Anonymous podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be speaking to us about how Jim

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<v Speaker 1>and Ron sort of moved off into other grifts after

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<v Speaker 1>Q stopped posting. Remember, they were the ones running the

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<v Speaker 1>boards that Q and On posted on so Julian just

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<v Speaker 1>for our listeners, Um, maybe you can give us a

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<v Speaker 1>quick recap on who Run and Jim Watkins are. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they have not had as much attention since the election

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<v Speaker 1>didn't bring Trump back. Yeah. So Jim has a history

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<v Speaker 1>in the army and he went on to become a

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<v Speaker 1>self styled king of porn, and so he made a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money basically um unblurring Japanese genitals and then

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<v Speaker 1>reselling that from the Philippines to the Japanese, circumventing their

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<v Speaker 1>censorship laws. So he made a lot of money doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>His son grows up in that environment. I'd say Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Watkins is like the quintessential sex tourist kind of guy. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>just just as a kind of sleeves bag who lives

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<v Speaker 1>abroad and has a million shell companies. And his son,

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<v Speaker 1>I think got pilled online red pilled you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>like four chan and and eight chan and stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>they both took an interest to image boards and so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they've kind of wrestled control of a few

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<v Speaker 1>image boards from people. They're they're accused of stealing one

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<v Speaker 1>um from Nakamura and uh. They they ended up with

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<v Speaker 1>eight chan, which they took from the creator of it,

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<v Speaker 1>Frederick Brennan, and you know, as a result, they had

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<v Speaker 1>control over the entire ecosystem in which Q verified itself

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<v Speaker 1>and also posted so many Now, you know, with the

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<v Speaker 1>information that came out with the HBO documentary and other, um,

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<v Speaker 1>other pieces of evidence, many people believe that Ron has

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<v Speaker 1>at least posted as Q a few times, if not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Once you know, Q moved to the specific

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<v Speaker 1>message boards or the specific channels on eight Chan that

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<v Speaker 1>that were UM that basically allowed Ron to become the

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<v Speaker 1>soul verifier for Q. And that's that's what, at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day we have real proof of is

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<v Speaker 1>that their custodians of Q, they invented the trip code

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<v Speaker 1>that would allow Q to verify who they were from

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<v Speaker 1>just being on ann that that uh, that that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really verifiable UM and so so now um Q stopped posting,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course you know they've denied it through and

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<v Speaker 1>through that that you know they were involved in that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think all eyes are definitely on them, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we could get into it a little later, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are no longer in the best of positions. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they used to run a pig farm together and that's gone,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Um So, I think they're both well Ron

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<v Speaker 1>is now in Japan and his father is in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States last I checked, because the Philippines did not

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<v Speaker 1>grant him naturalization. All right, Yeah, And you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>you said, I I also think that's definitely fair. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's definitely possible, very very highly possible that

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<v Speaker 1>Jim and Ron were running Q and on. I would

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<v Speaker 1>put money on it, you know what I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they'll probably writing a lot of the drops as well,

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<v Speaker 1>if not all of them. Um and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people have kind of come to this this realization, as

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<v Speaker 1>you have on your podcast, and like you said in

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<v Speaker 1>that HBO documentary, there's a lot more that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>opened the eyes to that. Um So, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>they're no longer in the Philippines and they're not really

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<v Speaker 1>on the Q and On circuit anymore as much as

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<v Speaker 1>they were. So what happened, like, what did they do next?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the kind of fallout for them after obviously

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<v Speaker 1>Trump didn't get in and I think in December or

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<v Speaker 1>November last year, Q just stopped posting. Well, the father

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<v Speaker 1>is an interesting figure because he's tried to become essentially

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<v Speaker 1>a figure of you know, right wing information through UM

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<v Speaker 1>the gold Water, which was his website before Q was

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<v Speaker 1>even a thing. And so he's been you know, wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to be a disinformation like YouTuber essentially and failing over

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<v Speaker 1>and over at attracting an audience because he's not very

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<v Speaker 1>good at reading scripts. He's also you know, he just

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<v Speaker 1>makes you shudder just watching and listening to him. There's

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<v Speaker 1>there's very little um charisma there. But the Sun has

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<v Speaker 1>actually had more uh success, and what he did even

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<v Speaker 1>in the lead up to the election, when Q was

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<v Speaker 1>still technically posting, he built his own kind of Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>presence and became a central figure in the claim that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the vote was rigged and and all of

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<v Speaker 1>these kind of efforts to to undermine the results as

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<v Speaker 1>they came in for the United States presidential election. And

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<v Speaker 1>so he he was successful until you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>revealed that he was using one of these like boosting

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<v Speaker 1>tools from this white right wing operative and he was

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<v Speaker 1>eventually kicked off of Twitter. He has rebuilt on Telegram

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of pivoted a little bit, uh not in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of sharing conspiracy theories. He's still sharing them hardcore,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the CCP, you know, they they they

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<v Speaker 1>are responsible for the rigged election. He even dabbled in

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<v Speaker 1>like basically a new version of adrenea chrome development of

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<v Speaker 1>that conspiracy theory, a new Adina chrome. Sorry please what

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<v Speaker 1>it was like adren no courtquoit or some something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was like, you know, trying to to write

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<v Speaker 1>deep lore on his on his adrene of chrome theory. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then now he's kind of like settled in And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the weirder moves that he's had is he

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<v Speaker 1>started this thing called alien Leaks, which essentially promises to

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<v Speaker 1>be the wiki leaks for you know, um what they

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<v Speaker 1>call disclosure, you know, like revealing the technologies or the

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<v Speaker 1>aliens or the government project projects or whatever. Her uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And he started it with one of the dumbest guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I it has to be another bit another troll, because

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, Tony Tiera, is just a pure dunce and

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<v Speaker 1>they're just kind of bumbling around on that podcast talking

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<v Speaker 1>about stuff. Um. Alien Leaks has already been accused of

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<v Speaker 1>of essentially just republishing public documents and then making a

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<v Speaker 1>little blog posts about what you should think of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're like already public and have been declassified long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that their first thing was that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you've ever read. It's a pretty fun document.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that c I a thing about remote viewing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they basically there's a great book called The Men

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<v Speaker 1>Who Stare At Goats written kind of about the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing by John Runson, and it was essentially like the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA kind of thinking does this work? Could this work?

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<v Speaker 1>And just like plowing a load of money into like

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<v Speaker 1>a stupid project, right, like it didn't work or anything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which wouldn't be the first time he releases that, like

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<v Speaker 1>look at this, look at this, like this is incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>We were leaking stuff. We're just I'm just like Julian Assange.

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<v Speaker 1>But really he's had very little attention and uh, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is it's entertaining to listen to Tony Tiera, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do like sub Joe Rogan commentary, while Ron Watkins um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, puts out videos where he's wearing like body

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<v Speaker 1>armor and and uh like a cowboy hat and like

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<v Speaker 1>uh some sort of kimono. Honestly, him and his dad

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<v Speaker 1>have spent so much time streaming and creating crap content.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jim Sor just did a few videos on

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<v Speaker 1>trying to cure his own ham. It looked like absolute shit, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and he put the whole the worst condiments on it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a horrifying spectacle to watch him do

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. But I think their whole thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that that new thing for censorship where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the first two minutes or three minutes of the

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<v Speaker 1>video won't have anything weird in it, and then and

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<v Speaker 1>then they'll be like, okay, now we can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Q and on or something like that. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's their approach to all their communications, just put out weird,

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<v Speaker 1>wacky white noise. In a way, it's a bit like

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<v Speaker 1>Operation mind Fuck. Uh. You know the idea that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you always look like you're clowning, if you always

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<v Speaker 1>look like it's a bit if it's very hard to

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<v Speaker 1>take you seriously because you're so ridiculous, then when you

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<v Speaker 1>really want to do an op, when you really want

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<v Speaker 1>to get something done, it also looks ridiculous. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>they think it disarms the enemy. You know. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>they fucking would quote Sunsu or some dumb sh it,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, essentially, like that's what they do they just

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<v Speaker 1>pump the air full of nonsense. They hire some of

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<v Speaker 1>the dumbest possible people, like they must have picked them

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<v Speaker 1>because they're perfect Patsy's um and so yeah, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>just their path right now. I think I think it

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<v Speaker 1>hurts a little bit. They never made any money. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they can't really say it's them, even though Ron like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of still revels in the in the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge of others that you know, they come to him

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<v Speaker 1>for that stuff. But you know, there's not that much

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<v Speaker 1>pay pay out in the end, and January six wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>quite the effort post I think they wanted it to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a it's a bit of an uncertain future

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<v Speaker 1>for those two. But I can't imagine they won't be

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<v Speaker 1>getting up to more bad stuff. I mean, they they've

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<v Speaker 1>had so many I don't know, if you're familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>susu coin. They took a fork of an existing cryptocurrency,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they just took like an existing platform and

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of customized it and made a new one.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were like, Okay, so this is susu coin,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going to be a way to post and

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<v Speaker 1>never be censored because the post will be text you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the transactions of the blockchain or whatever. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was gonna make like essentially a decentralized message board

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<v Speaker 1>that would you could never take down, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the Jews or whatever posts they want to

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<v Speaker 1>put put up, um and and it never really took off.

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<v Speaker 1>But they had this the mascot for it was a

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<v Speaker 1>clearly like underage kind of lolly character, and they made

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bio for her where they're like, she's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one and like making all these jokes and stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like always like that, right. You know. Jim

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<v Speaker 1>makes a company called is It Wet Yet? Jim runs

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<v Speaker 1>a show on his Terrible Tour of three or Tiger

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<v Speaker 1>Network or whatever it's called. Uh, they're kind of attempt

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<v Speaker 1>at doing a streaming slash YouTube platform, and his show

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<v Speaker 1>is called like the Ship Ahoy The Ship Show. Like

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<v Speaker 1>everything is dumb. It's like, you know, he dresses up

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<v Speaker 1>in like stupid costumes or will wear like a Sesame

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<v Speaker 1>Street T shirt and just talk about that and then

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<v Speaker 1>he'll you know, even though he's never really Christian in

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<v Speaker 1>any way by any accounts, he's he's you know, reading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible and singing, uh, you know, songs and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just bizarre. Honestly, they're real creepy. Yeah, it always

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<v Speaker 1>been creepy, and I think it's worth mentioning as well.

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<v Speaker 1>For a time there was literally child sexual abuse images

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<v Speaker 1>being shared on one of Jim and Run's message boards, right,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, there were whole communities dedicated to to that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. That was very common on almost all

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<v Speaker 1>Chan boards. Four Chan had issues with it, certainly, h

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<v Speaker 1>Chan uh, you know, with its even more lax rules,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, had issues with that. And then of course

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<v Speaker 1>they used to run like this big porn pire in

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<v Speaker 1>which they would use endless keywords generated probably automatically, but

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<v Speaker 1>the result is that, um, some of Jim's old websites

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<v Speaker 1>like would have extensions that that you know, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be basically references to child pornography. So you know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not squeamish. You know, Ron rolls around in his car

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<v Speaker 1>playing porn on the screen in his car, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know that that is the x King of porn. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't really buy their rebrand as Christian patriots,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's certainly I don't think that either of them

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<v Speaker 1>are particularly horrified by um, child pornography. Nor were they

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<v Speaker 1>or are they about? You know, extreme neo nazis doing

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<v Speaker 1>actual uh you know what they call effort posting, like

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<v Speaker 1>basically preparing for an operation where you would actually hurt

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<v Speaker 1>or kill people and having people cheer you on. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a recurring problem with their boards as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very very disgusting. So we've got um, We've got Jim.

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<v Speaker 1>He's curing ham on YouTube. He's trying to launch is

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<v Speaker 1>weird far right Christian fundamentalist type streaming platform. His son

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<v Speaker 1>Ron is now doubling in Alien Leaks and was quite

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<v Speaker 1>a big proponent, saying that the voting machines were rigged

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<v Speaker 1>during the election. They've also started up this weird cryptocurrency.

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<v Speaker 1>Um have they said anything about q and on? Have

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of just distanced themselves from it? What? How

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<v Speaker 1>have they dealt with all that in the fallout from it? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as in the HBO documentary, they just keep

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<v Speaker 1>saying we are not I am not quing on. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ron even in that latest video, which is I

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<v Speaker 1>have to admit shot quite well, got some soft light going.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like maybe, um, I don't know, probably just

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<v Speaker 1>a filter at this point with technology, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got a certain genessiqua like you're you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the water, it's peaceful, there's trees, and then he's dressed

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<v Speaker 1>like an absolute moron, like you know, kind of on

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<v Speaker 1>a rock and saying stuff like you know, I am

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<v Speaker 1>not Q, I'm not Q and on. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the bit that they're gonna stick with. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like it wasn't us. But I think they also desperately

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<v Speaker 1>want people to know that they had power briefly even

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<v Speaker 1>or that they you know, that they did this, that

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<v Speaker 1>they successfully did possibly the biggest troll in history. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think what makes you think that, what makes you

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<v Speaker 1>think that they want people to know? Is it the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I'll be honest, I've seen some of the

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<v Speaker 1>videos and it's it does feel almost as if they're

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<v Speaker 1>being like wink wink, nude nudge, it wasn't us. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? What do you think I think

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<v Speaker 1>that they do? And they also know that obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>know that their their admission, their admission of it would

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<v Speaker 1>be tawdry and messy, but really there's no law that

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<v Speaker 1>they can be um prosecuted under it they were always

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<v Speaker 1>you know, operating essentially within American law due to the

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<v Speaker 1>way free speech works over here and and others such things.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's like I think they feel safe.

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<v Speaker 1>They feel safe. Jim feels backed by history. He often

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<v Speaker 1>makes like long soliloquizing fucking speeches where he's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ancient colonial raiders and how it was actually

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<v Speaker 1>great that they did genesize and stuff. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>he feels like, you know what, I have the weight

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<v Speaker 1>of history behind me, and it didn't happen this time,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least we've accelerated what we're looking for, which

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<v Speaker 1>I believe is, you know, the kind of ethno state

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<v Speaker 1>race war style UM endpoint for them. Yeah. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't surprise me from from what they say and what

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<v Speaker 1>they've been behind and what they've allowed to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>breed on their platforms. I think that's pretty accurate. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what Jim and Ron got up to next,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of Q and on, where do you see

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<v Speaker 1>all this heading? You know, like, you guys have been

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<v Speaker 1>doing this a lot longer than me. You've you've delved deep,

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<v Speaker 1>deep into this from your point of view, where do

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<v Speaker 1>you see Q and on heading right now. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you can't you know, predict the future, but you must

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<v Speaker 1>have some idea. Well, you know, I mean QUIN was

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<v Speaker 1>always de centralized, and I think that that was the

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<v Speaker 1>model that allowed it to proliferate. So well, is that

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<v Speaker 1>the people really carrying the signal for most uh kind

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<v Speaker 1>of Uh. Most of those coming into the movement have

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<v Speaker 1>been interpreters or Q tubers and all this stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they all start their own grifts. They are

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<v Speaker 1>fighting uh new voices like ghost Ezra, who's like an

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<v Speaker 1>open neo Nazi essentially at this point, uh and has

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we don't know who that person is,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've gathered a big following on telegram. So there's jealousy,

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<v Speaker 1>there's breaking apart. But for the beliefs, I like to

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<v Speaker 1>see it in a different way because you know, again

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<v Speaker 1>there's no leader to this movement. Q is basically a

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<v Speaker 1>non nonperson, you know, just it's a way of being,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a way of thinking. UM. And the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are done with this, some of them will go Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was duped, but very few most people will double

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<v Speaker 1>down or continue to have the beliefs that were under

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<v Speaker 1>the umbrella of Q. And on, even though they won't

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<v Speaker 1>use the name anymore. Uh. You know. A perfect example

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<v Speaker 1>is recently a sepack you know. Uh, a journalist Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Patrizo would kind of like he was going up to

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<v Speaker 1>people with Q T shirts because he was seeing them

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<v Speaker 1>walking around. And one time, you know, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>people was this woman wearing this big Q T shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes up to her with the mike and she's

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<v Speaker 1>just covering up the T shirt and just running away,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's like weird because they want to

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<v Speaker 1>be like we are Q and on, but they they

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<v Speaker 1>know also and they've been told by Q that it

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<v Speaker 1>looks bad at this point. So I think we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see a proliferation of the same birchue right far right,

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<v Speaker 1>uh like anti communist fever dreamshit, and the same kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like racist, xenophobic, you know, the whole you know,

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<v Speaker 1>antic submitic. Obviously, all of these conspiracy theories will continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, there are um anyone's to marshall if Trump

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<v Speaker 1>comes back or whoever whatever figure is able to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of electrify the right. I think what we know now

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<v Speaker 1>is that you can't ignore these people that you now

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<v Speaker 1>have a part of the gop base that believe these things,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you label them as Q and on or not,

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<v Speaker 1>and believe new things that they're making up after Q

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<v Speaker 1>stop posted that they're all kind of crowdsourcing. They've learned.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like teach a man to fish, you know, Q

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<v Speaker 1>taught them to fish. Q taught them how to fish.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is one of the best ways of

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<v Speaker 1>summing up how Ron and Jim Watkins very likely assembled

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<v Speaker 1>the Q and On army and sent them off into

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Now they know how to fish, they know

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<v Speaker 1>how to catch the fishes, they know how to keep

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<v Speaker 1>it moving. Just because Q is no longer they're posting

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that this problem has gone away. And as

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<v Speaker 1>we've mentioned several times already in this series, and as

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<v Speaker 1>Julian just mentioned, their things are becoming more and more extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the top Q and On influences are becoming

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<v Speaker 1>outright neo Nazis and others that claim not to be

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<v Speaker 1>almost unknowingly doubling in these kind of conspiracy theories. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>Q and On is a big problem in America, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's also spread all across the world, specifically to Europe

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere you might not imagine it taken route though, is Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>Q and on has spread to Japan and it could

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<v Speaker 1>be a very serious issue. We'll be talking about that

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