1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Podcast play around Taking a Walk last night. Today we 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: have a virtual edition of Taking a Walk with the 3 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: great American actor Joe Montaigne. If you like this podcast, 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: please share it with others. You can also follow us 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 6 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: You know Joe from Godfather III, Bugsy, Joan of Arcadia, 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: and the franchise on Paramount Plus and CBS Criminal Minds. 8 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: He's here to talk about the newest season of Criminal Minds, 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: and we'll also touch on elements of his career that 10 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: not only catch acting but touch music. Let's welcome to 11 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk the Great actor Joe Montaigne. Hi Joe, 12 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Hi Bud, thanks for being on. Congratulate relations on Criminal Minds. 13 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: Another season streaming now at Paramount Plus. Congrats, Thank you 14 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: very much. Can you take us inside going back to 15 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: the what you can tell us about the development of 16 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: such a successful franchise such as Criminal Minds? How did 17 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: this magic occur? Yeah? Boy, if I knew that answer, 18 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: I'd create another one myself. You know, sometimes it's hard 19 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: to say you know what it was. You know it 20 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: was you put all these elements together and you hope 21 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: for the best. You know, it's like saying, why did 22 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: the Beatles become the Beatles? And other bands the four 23 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: Guys didn't. You know, it's a combination of things. I mean, 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: it was obviously an interesting idea when when we first 25 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: came about, you know over you know, twenty almost twenty 26 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: years ago now when original series first started, and and 27 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: so you put this all together, you tell these stories. 28 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: It's an interesting premise about the Behavior Analysis Unit of 29 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: the FBI, which is a real organization, and you get 30 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: good writers and you tell these stories and it's either 31 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: it's going to click or it isn't. And in this instance, 32 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: it really has close and it's a click worldwide because 33 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: it's one of the most indicated shows on the planet. 34 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: And that's why they brought us back. So as to 35 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: why that is or how that is, it's a combination 36 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: of things. And like I said, if there was a 37 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: formula that worked every time, then every show would be 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: that successful. But that's not the case. So you know, 39 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: there was you give it you my shot, and hopefully 40 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: past did you embed at the beginning with the Behavioral 41 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: Analysis Unit to really own the role as you have. 42 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: I did spend time in chronicle. Yeah, I've been there 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: numerous times, and so yeah, for any role you want 44 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: to do, you want to do as much research as possible, 45 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: especially when you're portraying something you know that really exists. 46 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, and I mean, so it was very helpful 47 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: to work with the real FBI. We've we on every episode. 48 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: We always got a technical advice that connected with the 49 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: FPIS with us, And like I said, I spend time 50 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: at Quantico numerous time so to get a real feel 51 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: for it. So you know, we're still at the end 52 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: of the day, we're creating a television show, so you know, 53 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: just going to be some dramatic license would take, but 54 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: a lot of it is embedded and honest kind of 55 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: day to day what these men and women have to 56 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: do every day. God bless them for doing it, you know. 57 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: And you have publicly, you know, expressed your support in 58 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: this day and age obviously for the great work of 59 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: law enforcement. Right absolutely, I'm a huge supporter of our 60 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: military and our law enforcement because, like I because I'm 61 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: not a big guy politically in terms of politics. My 62 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: feeling is politics to take God and live in the 63 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: country where we can you know, we have we have 64 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: the ability to go out and vote and in some 65 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: countries don't have that capability free election. So my feeling 66 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: is how I feel about my politics is my business 67 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: as yours as everybody else. You go vote as you 68 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: want to. In terms of the men and women who 69 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: have in law enforcement and the military, people in uniform, 70 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: these are people who people do their jobs and politics 71 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: don't get involved there and they need our support, you know, 72 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven. And that's why I'm happy to be, 73 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, to you know, to leave that parade where 74 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: where they would want me to go in terms of 75 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: supporting you know, the people to do these jobs that 76 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: are you know, I'm glad I don't have to do 77 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: them in real life. You know, the people that they 78 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: for work, They may not come home at night, you know, 79 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: and job bless them for what they do. Amen. Amen. 80 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: You know you've had a career that has touched the 81 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: musical spectrum in certain instances, your time on Broadway, obviously, 82 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: your your first appearance in hair, You've covered the work 83 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: of Dean Martin and Elvis. Can you explain to me 84 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: the feeling that you know with a movie or a 85 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: franchise such as Criminal Minds when you look at that 86 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: first round of edits and the music's incorporated to really, 87 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, bring the richness of each episode. Yeah, the 88 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: music is a vital importance and we've been very blessed 89 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: to have incredible music, especially with Criminal Minds. I mean 90 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: on all the fifteen seasons we did. Initially I thought 91 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: that these people did a really great job because there's 92 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: actually a brother team that was involved with that that 93 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: were wonderful. And now the new version of Revolution, it's 94 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: a whole new, you know, music thing. But this is 95 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: just as tremendous, and I know we have people who 96 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: are very well thought of in the industry. You know 97 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: that we were able to get for this new evolution 98 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: of the show. And yes, it's very important it both 99 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: in film and and television. It plays a huge part 100 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: when it's done right. It is a huge asset. Where 101 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: does your favorite music span? Personally? God, it was the Gamut. 102 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I do love that. I mean to this day, 103 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: I still love. Well. If anybody watches Criminal Minds, they 104 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: saw that. When my character got married around the season 105 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: of around fourteen or fifteen, I had Johnny Mathis as 106 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: my best man. And that wasn't by accident because he 107 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: was somebody i'd loved as a singer ever since I 108 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: was a kid, and I loved the rap Pack. That's 109 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: why I loved making that movie. But I was also 110 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: in a band in the sixties, so rock and roll 111 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: was big for me, I mean the Beatles. I got 112 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: to know Ringo in real life, and that's why again, 113 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: people watch Criminal Minds may notice on my desk as 114 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: my character is a shot of me with Ringo that 115 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: people will go, oh, look as David Rossi Ringo, which 116 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: in the storyline of the show, which is actually a 117 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: possibility because of my character. But anyway, it runs the gamut. 118 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: I want from somebody who's in the movie TV business. 119 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: I actually listened to music more than I watched coelevision 120 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: to watch movies, and some music is very very important 121 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: to me, and all different variations of it, jazz, rock 122 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: and roll, crooner's new name it and it runs the gamut. 123 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: You have to tell me what an experience it was 124 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: to be alongside the warm Baby and played George Raft 125 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: in the amazing movie Bugsy. Oh yeah, that was great, Well, 126 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: you know it was. That was a great experience, very loving. 127 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: Soon first of all, was a tremendous director. I got 128 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: to work with him again in Liberty Heights later on 129 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: Warren is an incredible human being. Uh, you know, it's 130 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: just very smart, very giving. Uh, a lot of a 131 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: lot of great memories just off camera, you know, spending 132 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: time at Warren and the rest of the cast. Ben 133 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Kingsley was in that movie as well. Harvey kayitel Uh, 134 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: it was just one. It was. It was just a 135 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: wonderful film, you know. And and again I think I 136 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: give Bary Love said a lot of credits, and I 137 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: think it's one of our great great film directors. And 138 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: U was just that I talked that up. Is certainly 139 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: one of my favorite experiences. And do an a motion picture. 140 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: You've worked with so many amazing people. Are there people 141 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: that are on your wishless to work with either in 142 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: the future with Mintal Minds or with any other projects. Well, 143 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, as you said, I've been very blessed. I've 144 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: worked with the best. I've worked with, you know, Calla. 145 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: You know, I've got a couple who were pictures with 146 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: Woody Allen, I've done h David Mammont, My association with 147 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: him over the here is good, great. So, I mean 148 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: I was very blessed. I mean, you know, there's a 149 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: lot of uh people, you know, I never know who 150 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: you're going to work with next, and it's always a 151 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: surprise of some of the greats, you know, Robert Redford 152 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: and share and runs a gamut of all different types 153 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: of actors and actresses and not something maybe it would 154 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: get to work with Martin Scorsese would be it would 155 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: be all thrilled because of being Italian Americans. He certainly 156 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: was somewhere I've admired all my life. That would be great. 157 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: But I'm content with where my career has gone and 158 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: where it's going to go with I've never looked too 159 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: far ahead. My feeling is, let's see what happened tomorrow. 160 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: I put you a blessed for today and for all 161 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: the yesterday. So that's that's really I really wanted the 162 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: lucky ones without question. Well, I know you're a Cubs 163 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: fan at Hart and you've done work with the bleacher bums, 164 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: and you look closely at the work of your Cubs. 165 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: Any handicapping where the future the Cubs will be and 166 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: did they do wrong with Ronnie Woo Woo Wickers, Yeah, 167 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: Ronnie Woo Woo oh boy. Yeah, he was a character. 168 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: You know, I could see if that played Bleacher Bumps 169 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: back in nineteen seventy seven, and Ronnie would certainly been 170 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: memorialized in that play as well. Was part of an 171 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: institution at Wrigley Field. But yeah, I mean, once a 172 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: Cup fan, always a Cub fan. I mean I even 173 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: co produced a show called Hollywood and Ivy where we 174 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: interview celebrity Cup fans and on the Marque Network out 175 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: of Chicago, who carry the Cup games. And yeah, but 176 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, it took us one hundred and eight years 177 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: to get a world series, and I'm glad I was 178 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: still alive with my mother, who lived to be one 179 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: hundred and one. She just made it. She was one 180 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: hundred years old when they won that series, and they 181 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: had been on a seven year losing street which she 182 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: was born. So I think it's hard for me to 183 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: ask for more than that. I mean, another word told 184 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: me the couple's got a lot more world series in 185 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: the future, But first not, I'll take the one I 186 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: got since it took one hundred years to get that 187 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: night three to oh three to oh right, right, God, listen, 188 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: I love it. It's an honor to speak with you. 189 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm a major fan of your work. Joe A. Congrats 190 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: on Criminal Minds streaming on Paramount plus the great Joe Montagnan. 191 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for your time, Truck Leasure, thank you. 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