WEBVTT - INSTANT REACTION: Donald Trump Becomes First Former US President Guilty of Crimes 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:06.760 Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:10.600 We just got from our reporters inside the courthouse. This 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:14.160 is on the first count, count one, Donald Trump is 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:17.920 found guilty. This is the former president of the United States, 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:21.560 current presumptive Republican nominee is now a convicted felon, at 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:25.400 least on one count. Count two also guilty. Remember, we 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.480 have thirty four counts to get through here. This could 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.720 take some time. Count three now Joe is also guilty. 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.280 They're going to keep coming in here pretty quickly as 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.720 the jury confirms to the judge they have a verdict, 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.479 and this is going to start moving one, two, three guilty. 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.279 Count four is just coming in right now. From our 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.920 reporters inside the courtroom. Will remind you that we do 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.640 not have cameras and microphones where the jury is reading 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:52.120 Count one guilty, Count two guilty, same for count three. 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.960 And it looks like we have so far all guilty 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.040 waiting for number four. If I'm reading this right, it's 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:02.040 now five guilty counts of thirty four. Kaylee will be 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.480 watching these stream in for the next couple of moments. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:07.720 Well, and now it's six, seven, even up to nine 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:11.560 counts guilty. Dane it seems that we are looking fairly 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.280 consistent across all of these and it's worth keeping in 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:18.000 mind that now that we have a guilty conviction on 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.760 this twelve counts. Now he has been found guilty of 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.479 each one of these carries a maximum penalty of four 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.680 years in prison. Danna. Obviously he will not be sentenced today. 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:29.800 The judge will schedule that for later. But as we 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.920 now have sixteen guilty counts, do you expect he will 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.320 spend time behind bars eighteen. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.320 I think that Judgement Shaan, throughout the course of the 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.960 trial has emphasized how big of a deal it would 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.480 be to put the former president and potential future president 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.520 in prison, and so I think he's going to be 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.000 weighing all of the options. I do not think Donald 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.640 Trump will be remanded today, so I don't think he'll 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.200 go in today. And we'll see what Judgementschhaan does down 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:57.920 the road. It'll be interesting to see. 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:04.480 We are now at twenty seven guilty counts. This is 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.440 remarkable as we make our way to thirty four. Here 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:11.560 now twenty nine guilty counts coming from the jury in 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:15.120 the courthouse in Lower Manhattan. Kaylee, we should probably let 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.840 this breathe. We're now at thirty thirty one on our 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.840 way to thirty four. This appears to be across the. 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:26.520 Board thirty two guilty. Now there's only two counts left remaining, 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.280 thirty three. We're waiting for the last one. 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:30.000 Remarkable. 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.959 Thirty four. Every single count with which Donald Trump was 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:38.360 charged thirty four felony counts of falsifying business records he 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:42.239 has indeed been found guilty of. Donald Trump is now 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.040 running for president as a convicted felon, A convicted felon. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.880 Deanna, what is the Trump team planning now for an. 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.680 Appeal or an appeal? 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.360 They've been laying the groundwork throughout the course of the child, 0:02:55.760 --> 0:03:00.200 starting with the testimony from Stormy Daniels and about the 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.960 the details of their sexual encounter. I think there's a 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:05.760 number of different things that have come up throughout, but 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.960 they've definitely been objecting enough that there are grounds for 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:10.880 them to at least attempt to appeal this. 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.800 All right, Dana, Paul, thank you so much for being 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.640 with us as we deal with a breaking in real 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.919 time story. Former President Donald Trump found guilty on all 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.799 accounts in this criminal hush money trial. Joining us now 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.400 for more analysis Bloomberg's Mario Parker and Megan Scully. Mario, 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.119 obviously you covered the Trump White House, you now lead 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.880 our White House and politics coverage. He is a convicted felon, 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.600 and yet he is still going to be unless something 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:44.560 changes the Republican nominee for president. What does this change 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:48.520 politically as we are going to await his sentencing on. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.520 This, well, I think Joe used the word remarkable. What 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.680 a remarkable time where we're living here right now? Right 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:56.920 I'm looking at some of the polling that's out, It's 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.440 hard to tell at this point what will changing the 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.440 political landscape. Looking at some of the polling, our swing 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.520 state Bloomberg Morning Console poll had about twenty three percent 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.360 of swing state voters back in January saying that a 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.560 conviction may change their mind. Poll out this week from 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:16.760 PBS News Hour NPR, sixty seven percent of Americans say 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.039 that a conviction would make no difference. So we're all 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.120 over the place. What we do know is that the 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.360 Trump camp had already kind of started working the refs yesterday, 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:29.080 saying that even mother Teresa, who would be found guilty 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.800 in a case like this, now here's where the onus 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.880 is on a We know that Donald Trump doesn't want 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:39.960 the scarlet letter of a felony right on his record. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.960 We know that the Biden campaign will be attacking him 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.200 along those lines. What they have to do is signal 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:48.479 that this isn't a hush money case that he got 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:52.200 convicted for. This is an election interference case, right, So 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:53.919 they have to figure out a way to change the 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.400 branding as long as it's a hush money case that 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.600 kind of works in Donald Trump's favor. Right, it's salacious, 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.159 but Americans are used to kind of the selaciousness with 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:03.760 Donald Trump. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:08.840 This comes down to connecting the dots to that secondary argument. Essentially, Mario, 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.040 the reaction from Congress is going to be interesting here, Megan, 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.520 that's your area of specialty. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:14.680 Here. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.600 We've seen a good chunk of the Republican conference make 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.600 their way to this courthouse. What are the optics now 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:21.040 for them? 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.520 So they have been going to the courthouse. Speaker Johnson 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:29.880 has as have several potential vice presidential candidates, including JD. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:34.400 Vance who's called for criminal investigation into Judge Marshan because 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.760 of the gag order. So Speaker of the House himself, 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.960 so yes, and I believe that we're just going to 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:46.200 see Republicans doubling down and getting behind the president. I 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:51.680 would be stunned if this changed anything for the lawmakers 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.279 who have been behind the president. Where it gets a 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.599 little harry for Republicans are in those close districts, those 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.719 districts that Biden cares and in the Hudson Valley and 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.600 in southern California, And it will be very interesting to 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.440 see how they respond to this. Yeah. 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.119 Absolutely, And of course we're waiting to see how Donald 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.279 Trump himself responds. We are expecting we will hear from 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.680 him this evening. But Mario Cours, the judge, is now 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.880 in the courtroom thanking the jury for what he calls 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.839 their hard work, the jury having just confirmed that, indeed 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.320 they have found Donald Trump guilty on all of these 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:29.359 counts of these crimes. Donald Trump has spoken outside that 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.120 courthouse every single day for the duration of this His 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.640 message has been consistent. He thinks that this is President 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:39.280 Biden who has mobilized this weaponized justice system against him, 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:43.360 that this is election interference. That message has been resonating. 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.960 Can he not just have more fortification of that message 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:50.080 now they convicted him? Does that actually give him political power? 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.200 And yes to that point, that's exactly what you're going 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:56.000 to expect to see. 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:56.200 Right. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.520 I'm looking at my phone right now because I'm expecting 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:00.440 the fundraising appeals to come through. 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:00.640 Right. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.120 We know that Donald Trump hasn't seen a negative a 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.640 piece of negative publicity that he hasn't tried to fashion 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.920 it towards benefit. I mean, he essentially ran through the 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:15.120 Republican primaries off the strength of some of these court cases. Right. 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.080 One of the things that I also want to note 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:22.280 is just the steady flow of public support that he's 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.440 got in the leaks as well. Right, We've got a 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.400 Miriam Addelson saying today that she's going to essentially back 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.720 a super pac form Steven Schwartzman over the last couple 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:36.000 of days, Bill Ackman earlier as well, Nicky Hayley last week. Right, 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.680 this isn't coincidental, Right, These are astute people. They know 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.160 the political backdrop right now as well. And this is 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.320 a signal too as to what their star warts support 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:47.600 for the former president. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:49.960 If you're just joining us, this is special coverage on 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.720 Bloomberg TV and Radio with thirty four guilty counts. Guilty 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:57.320 on all counts for Donald Trump and the criminal hush 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:58.880 money trial in New York. If you're with us on 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.760 Bloomberg TV, you see live view outside the courthouse where 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:06.080 security is tight. Bloomberg's David Goura telling us that helicopters 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.080 were in the air in advance of the verdict being 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.160 read out, and we want to go to him now 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.600 with thanks to Megan Scully and Mario Parker. David Goura 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.880 in Lower Manhattan. I suspect, David, things have become rather 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.720 active outside the courthouse since this verdict was read. Do 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:22.200 we hear next from Donald Trump? 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.880 I think that we do, and I will say, as 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:28.960 I heard you're reading those verdicts. I was surprised by 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:30.720 how rapidly they came out, and I think that the 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.840 protesters who had gathered here in front of the courthouse 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.480 and Lower Manhattan were surprised as well. As you were 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.320 reading through those counts, noting that all of them were guilty. 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.240 We heard cheers erupt from that group of protesters, which 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.080 again had swelled in size. I'd say they're probably fifty 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.560 or sixty protesters who are gathered there now and then 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.360 there has been a heightened police presence in this area 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.559 for the duration of this trial. We saw movement as 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.800 that verdict was being read aloud in the courtroom. It's 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.400 now impossible to cross Center Street behind me. There's a 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.880 line of police officers now kind of standing sentry in 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.480 front of the courthouse, down the length of these blocks 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.680 of Center Street in front of the courthouse behind me. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.360 So the atmosphere feels, yes, a great deal tenser, and 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.760 I think there's this expectation, the sense of wondering what's 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:10.920 going to happen next, and when are we going to 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.840 hear from the former president. My understanding is from colleagues 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.680 who are in the courtroom he sat rather motionless as 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.280 those verdicts were announced. So we wait to see sort 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.920 of how that is transposed into comments from the former 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.160 president here in the coming minutes. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.000 We understand that happening in the courtroom now included the 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:32.440 defense David essentially asking for a judgment of the acquittal. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.920 That motion was denied by Judge Mrshawan, but Todd Blanche, 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.440 Donald Trump's defense attorney, argued that there was no way 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.719 the jury could have reached a verdict without relying on 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.520 the testimony of Michael Cohen, who Blanche said was a liar, 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.319 that there was no reason the court should allow a 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.240 verdict for that reason. I guess that just speaks to 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.079 David the idea that this isn't necessarily done and dusted. Yes, 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.720 Trump is now a convicted felon, has been found guilty 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.120 on all thirty four of these counts, but his defense 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.440 could still try to appeal this and continue to fight 0:09:59.480 --> 0:09:59.960 this battle. 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:03.880 I think that's all but certain. And you hear Todd 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:05.720 Blanche sort of laying the groundwork for that in the 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:07.600 courtroom now in a way that you would expect him 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:09.240 to do. And so we're now in this kind of 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.440 vacuum that opens up between this conviction and when Judge 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:16.160 Jan Mrschon will sentence the former president. And having spoken 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.600 to a few lawyers in advance of this decision, you 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.280 know he's a first time felon. This is a low 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.000 grade felony. I think that it is not by any 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.520 means likely that he's going to serve prison, but time 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:27.920 in prison, But it is, of course up to the 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.480 judges discretion and the expectation here is in the state 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.839 of New York, that's going to happen in about a 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.439 month from now, So again it'll be a vacuum that 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.120 opens up here. Now this conviction is in place, and 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.880 we'll see how the president operates in that vacuum. As 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.880 as you've been discussing here over these last few minutes, 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.080 he is moving full speed ahead toward the election in 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.000 early November, and this moves from the cruispool of this 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.880 courtroom that he's been so clearly uncomfortable in and eager 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.040 to get out of, onto the campaign trail ahead of 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:53.199 the general election in November. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.400 David, thank you so much. Bloomberg's David Gora outside the 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.800 courthouse as we wait to hear from the former president 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.079 as part of our special coverage on Bloomberg TV and Radio. 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.480 Let's bring back Deanna Paul, former New York City assistant 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.520 da watching this along with us. We read the counts together, 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.440 we learned the verdict together. 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:12.080 Deanna. 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.520 How long is it going to be before Americans hear 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:15.319 about a sentence? 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.920 I agree with what David was just saying. I would 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:23.240 say probably about a month before Donald Trump has to 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.560 come back to court and Judge Mrschan will sentence him. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.960 But given the historic nature of the case and who 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.960 who the defendant is, I'm not sure if it'll be 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:33.439 kind of par for the course. 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.199 Well as if they could hear us. Judge Marshon has 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.880 just answered that question. Todd Blanche requested a day in 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.040 mid to late July, and Judge Mrschan says July eleventh 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.360 will be the date for the sentencing. Remarkable to consider 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.440 that July eleventh is just four days before the beginning 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.840 of the Republican National Convention, where Donald Trump is expected 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:58.040 to officially become the Republican nominee for president in twenty 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:02.080 twenty four. So it's interesting to consider the speech that 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.520 Donald Trump will be giving that week Diana could be 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.000 colored by the fact that he will ultimately know what 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.559 punishment he is facing for these crimes that he has 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.720 been found guilty of. But the appeals process is we 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.040 were just talking about what David Gurrow will likely extend 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.920 far beyond July. Correct. 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:23.000 Absolutely, and I imagine when Donald Trump and his attorneys 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.840 speak today, that's exactly what they're going to say, is 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.880 that they have every intention of filing an appeal immediately. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.200 We've got a statement from the Speaker of the House, Kayley, 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:35.120 can you bring that to us. 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:39.040 Yeah, Speaker Mike Johnson just releasing the following statement. He says, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:43.040 quote today is this shameful day in American history? Democrats 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.240 cheered as they convicted the leader of the opposing party 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.400 on ridiculous charges predicated on the testimony of a disbarred, 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:52.800 convicted felon. This was purely political exercise, not a legal one. 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.280 The House speaker goes on to say, the weaponization of 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.000 our justice system has been a hallmark of the Biden administration, 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.800 and the decision today is further evidence that Democrats will 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:05.839 stop at nothing to silence dissent and crush their political opponents, 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.560 Echoing what we have heard from the former president here. 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.240 Again in a couple of moments, Deana, can you speak 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.040 to this. We're going to hear about weaponizing the federal 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.600 justice system. We have been for months, will continue to 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.600 straight through sentencing or maybe the rest of this campaign, 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:23.959 but we're talking about a state level court here. How 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:28.080 do you square that? Before you answer that, Danna, it 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.280 looks like we do have the former president coming out now. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:31.719 We want everyone to hear what he has to say. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.080 Let's listen live to Donald Trump. 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:38.320 Agreed trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupted. It's 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:42.200 a rig trial and disgrace. It wouldn't give us a 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:46.960 venue change. We were at five percent or six percent 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.560 in this district, in this area. This was a rigged, 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:55.559 disgraceful trial that the real verdict is going to be 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.400 November fifth by the people. And they know what here, 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.880 and everybody knows what happened here. You have a sore 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:08.240 respect DA and a whole thing. We didn't do a 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:13.880 thing wrong. I'm a very innocent man, and it's okay. 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.599 I'm fighting for our country. I'm fighting for our constitution. 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.040 Our whole country is being rigged right now. This was 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:24.800 done by the Biden administration in order to wound or 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:29.200 hurt an opponent, a political opponent, And I think it's 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.680 just a disgrace. And we'll keep fighting. We'll fight till 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.800 the end and we'll win because our country's gone to hell. 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.760 We don't have the same country anymore. We have a 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:43.720 divided mess. We're nation to decline, serious decline. Millions and 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.680 millions of people pouring into our country right now from 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:53.120 prisons and from mental institutions, terrorists, and they're taking over 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.120 our country. We have a country that's in big trouble. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.400 But this was a rigged decision right from day one, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.560 with a conflicted judge. You should have never been allowed 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.920 to try this case. Never, and we will fight for 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.080 our constitution. This is Lord from over, thank you very much. 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:20.960 Fright or felony counts of falsifying. That was former President 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.920 Donald Trump speaking outside the courthouse after just being found 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.400 guilty on all thirty four felony counts of falsifying business records. 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.400 They're maintaining he is innocent, essentially vowing that he will 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.520 be appealing this also repeating false claims he has made 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:37.080 consistently over the course of this trial, that the judges corrupt, 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:40.280 that this is rigged, that the Biden administration is to blame. 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.560 Those are words he has consistently uses, even if they 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.240 are not in fact accurate. We want to turn back 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:49.440 now to Bloomberg's Meghan Scully and Mario Parker for more analysis. So, Meghan, 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.400 it was interesting to hear Donald Trump say those words 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.480 when we just read from a statement many similar words 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.440 in phrasing from the House Speaker Mike Johnson, which goes 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.760 to show it is not just Donald Trump that is 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.920 singing this tune, but other powerful Republicans in Washington. 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:09.200 Absolutely, we just got a statement in from the Judiciary chairman. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.920 It's calling this a travesty of justice, and they're just 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:17.800 pouring in one after another talking, really taking on Judge Marshawn, 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.160 calling this a rig trial, using language that we've grown 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:26.320 accustomed to Donald Trump using, essentially really putting into question 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:31.120 the justice that happened today and the decision that the 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.160 jurors came to. That's a rarity or that was a 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:38.280 rarity in American politics. And this is sort of a 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:42.160 continuation of a long trend here, but really coming to 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.120 a culmination today with the responses. 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.720 So we just heard from the former president. If you're 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.640 just joining us on Bloomberg, this is special coverage with 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.600 thirty four guilty counts against the former president in Lower Manhattan. 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:59.000 He spoke very briefly, suggested once again that the trial 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:03.040 was rigged and that the real jury would decide in 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.920 November on the outcome of this case. Our reporters inside 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.600 the room bring some color, remembering there are no cameras 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.520 or microphones inside the courthouse on Center Street. Donald Trump 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.439 bumping fists with his son Eric, looking grim on his 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:19.800 way out of the court before we heard him speak. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.280 Our reporters tell us when they were looking right at him, 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.920 he showed no emotion and did not show any reaction. 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.399 When the verdict was announced, he stared straight ahead, Mario 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.640 Parker is back with us as well, Mario, your take 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.479 on this idea of the trial being rigged, The election 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.879 in twenty twenty was rigged, Jack Smith's case rigged, the 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.399 documents case in Florida all rigged. 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.160 Yeah, there's a trend there, right, so that you point 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.840 out anytime that things don't go Donald Trump's way, this 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.520 is the card that he usually plays, right. But to 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.879 Megan's point, what you're saying is that the party has 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.399 essentially adopted that tone and that posture as will, and 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.640 they're rallying to his defense. Now again, we would expect 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.280 against based off of polling, that Republicans will buy and 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.560 large stand with him by and large, maybe about twenty 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:11.760 five percent may waiver. The problem here for Donald Trump 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.800 is going to be that Joe Biden is going to 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:19.800 be labeling him presumptive Republican presidential nominee fell in and 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.160 convicted felon Donald Trump, and that'll be message to swing 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.080 voters over the next five months and including the timeline 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.120 that you all laid out from the convention, the debates 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.359 in June twenty seventh as well, just a couple of 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:32.520 weeks before the sentencing. 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:34.919 Well, it's worth pointing out as well, it's not just 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.840 what voters ultimately decide to do, but what donors decide 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.119 to do between now and when people actually go to 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.439 the polls in November, because there are millions of dollars 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.680 to be raised and spent in a presidential campaign. Mario, 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.320 especially considering we got the verdict on the same day 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.800 that we had reporting that Bill Ackman maybe getting close 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.399 to backing Trump. He has received in recent weeks, the 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:57.840 backing of more billionaires who weren't previously in line with him. 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:01.399 How should we consider the money here and whether or 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.480 not it perhaps is even going to get thrown at 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.800 him more so as a result of this conviction. 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:07.800 Well, that's what they're banking on, right, That's what the 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.119 Trump camp is banking on. They're banking on the fact 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.280 that again we've kind of outlined just that through lines 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.280 in between the rhetoric that some of his advocates and 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.520 surrogates have used the rig for example, So some of 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.560 this was baked in, right, the expectation that he very 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:26.479 well could have been convicted of this and yet to 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.400 your point, Kayley, I mean, you've had donors who knew, 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.000 who are quite aware that today or the verdict could 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.640 have come in at any time publicly saying that they're 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:36.720 going to back him with money as well. So that 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:38.919 kind of shows that, I mean, some of this is 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.080 baked in, and the Trump campaign is going to continue 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:42.240 to kind of message. 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.360 That the congressional reaction I suspect could be pretty loud 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:45.919 beyond the statements that are going to be hitting our 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.359 email boxes for the next twenty four hours. Megan, you 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:53.560 mentioned jd Vance a potential investigation into what's motivating Juan Rashon, 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.840 But how about beyond that, are we going to be 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:00.040 in for another six months of oversight committee hearings? The 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.040 Judiciary Committee get involved here, Jim Jordan has to get 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:03.880 a piece of this, right. 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:06.360 Well, it's going to be interesting to see what happens 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:10.639 because if you recall, the impeachment push for President Biden 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.119 has essentially stalled in the House. So do they try 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.120 to revive that, do they go back and look at 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:21.119 impeaching another cabinet official like they did with Alejandro Amiorkis, 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:25.320 the Homeland Security Secretary, And what do they do on 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:26.920 the Hill. We are now at a point on the 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.720 Hill where they have switched into campaign mode. So we 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.920 have tons of legislation coming to the floor that are 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.920 messaging votes, things that are never going to become law, 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.320 but that are good for their candidates to vote on. 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.879 And I think that there will certainly be some messaging 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.439 legislation targeted at supporting Donald Trump. 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:49.520 It also raises the question what Congressional Democrats may do, 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.679 considering this is one criminal case that Donald Trump was 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.479