1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: Cowboys, Let's go. 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 5: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 5: And so much for that. 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 6: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 5: We were with Nick. 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 6: Eatman, Brian brought Us and Bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 7: It is Tuesday, May second, twenty twenty three, Seasons nineteen, 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 7: Episode number five. Welcome to the list edition of The Break. 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 7: We're a lot from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 7: Star and presented by Miller like the only beer of 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 7: the Dallas Cowboys. We are fresh off of the twenty 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 7: twenty three NFL Draft, so today's show will be dominated 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 7: by draft talk. I got Nick and Brian and Amber 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 7: here with me. We'll talk each pick and what their 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 7: scouting report is and also where they will fit on 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 7: this team. Lots of interesting names, players that maybe everybody 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 7: didn't expect. But you know, again, as I said on Twitter, 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 7: and I think I've heard you guys say as well, 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 7: this this front office, particularly this scouting department, deserves a 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 7: bit of benefit of doubt. If you have doubt about 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 7: picks because of what they've done over the last really, 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 7: I guess eight to ten years in the draft. 28 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 5: So let's talk about it. Let's jump right in. 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 7: Let's talk about the first round pick, Mazzie Smith, defensive 30 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 7: tackle from Michigan. 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 5: He was selected at number twenty six overall. 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 7: Start first by giving me a scouting report on Mozzie Smith. 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 8: He's strong, I'll start there. 34 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 5: Not gonna tell me about his hips. You're not gonna 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 5: tell me about the bride. They're gonna tell me he's strong. Okay, good, They's. 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 8: Strong, and that's a position of need because they there 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 8: were games where they got their ass kick right in 38 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 8: the middle of the line. So they didn't want to 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 8: do that anymore, so they said, let's let's let's try 40 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 8: to fix that. So that's I mean, that's just the 41 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 8: basic part of him. I mean, Brian watched a lot 42 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 8: more of his game. 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when you watch Mazzie Smith, and especially 44 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: some of those games where he played against some of 45 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 3: the better offensive lines in the Big Ten, the the 46 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 3: Ohio States, the Minnesota's people like that, you know that 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: had those guys that we were evaluating for for the draft. 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: He did a really nice job. The scheme that he 49 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: plays in might be a little bit restrictive when you 50 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: watch him because you're thinking about where's the production, where 51 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: are the sack numbers? Where are these things? He plays 52 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 3: in the system what we call two gap, where you 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: read and react, So it's basically the extension. It's the 54 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: looking side, it's the peak to the backside, and then 55 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: it's it's to go. But when he's on that mode 56 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 3: where he's just going up the field, Nick's right, he's 57 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 3: extremely strong in the upper and lower body. He could 58 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: drive guys back. He could be disruptive in the pocket, 59 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: especially when you try and run the ball to the 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 3: say the off tackle sides. You put him and let 61 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: him just like play that gap or the gap and 62 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: a half over. He's the type of guy that's athletic 63 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: enough to get over far enough to so if the 64 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: ball goes to the edge right in that tackle box area, 65 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: he could get over there, kind of stuff things up, 66 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 3: hold that edge and then don't give you any cutback lane, 67 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: but also make a play right in that area. Just 68 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: really does a great job of playing with his hands 69 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: and being able to control the blockers. That's something that 70 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: you know Nick mentioned last year that they struggled with 71 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: when Hankins went out. It was kind of like, Okay, 72 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: how they going to make up for you know, to 73 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: hold up blocks, how they're going to play in the 74 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: running game Manzi Smith. The one thing that this this 75 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: coaching staff will do for him, and Will McClay even 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: mentioned it, They'll open up his stance a little bit more. 77 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: You know, maybe they felt like he was playing a 78 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: little tight, but open him up a little more and 79 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: then that way you might get a little bit more 80 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: quickness for pass rush stuff. So I do like to 81 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: pick just because of the fact that and Will said 82 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: this himself in the audio that we heard that we 83 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: haven't had a defensive tackle like this that we can draft. 84 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: If you remember the previous administration, the Rod Mary and 85 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: Ellie administration, it was never really an interest of taking 86 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: a guy that can play that heavy position. Even though 87 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: Rod Marinelli had Booger McFarlane as that type of guy. 88 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: I mean, he had a strong inside presence. He's always 89 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: had that kind of guy. So I think they absolutely 90 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 3: did the right thing at that particular time of getting 91 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: a player that fits something that could definitely help this 92 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: defense in the middle. 93 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, when they picked him. It was for me one 94 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: of those moments that I wasn't super stoked or excited about. 95 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, because I'm thinking, again, do we need 96 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 2: a guy like him? Absolutely, But at the same time, 97 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: we have bigger needs in other areas around the team 98 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: that you need something like that, someone like that. But 99 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: they as soon as you see him come in here 100 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: the next day, you understand immediately why the Cowboys fell 101 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: in love with him, and you yourself start falling in 102 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: love with him as a person and also sorry and 103 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: also looking at his body top. You keep talking about strength, 104 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: but the type of strength this guy has is visible 105 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: to the eyes. Tyler Smith. Last year you saw him 106 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: come in and we were talking about his size as well. 107 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: But MASSI he's like pure muscle, like he has some 108 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: guns on his arms, and you just see that type 109 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: of weight that you typically talk about. Oh, second year, 110 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: they'll put on some weight, go out there and be 111 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: even better. This guy's already there what he needs to be. 112 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: So if this is a starting point for him, I 113 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: can't wait to see what he becomes this season, and 114 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 2: especially how he helps. Like Brian said, you talked about 115 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: the running defense. How he helps the Cowboys in that area. 116 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 5: Where does he fit on this defensive front? 117 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 7: Because I did lose Carlos Watkins this offseason, who I 118 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 7: thought was a really nice piece for their interior D fence. Obviously, 119 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 7: they brought back Hankins. Hankins, we saw the difference teammate 120 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 7: last year in the run game when he was on 121 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 7: the field, but an older veteran player. They needed some 122 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 7: youth there. You got Ah set as a three technique, 123 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 7: you got Gallimore. Where does he really fit in? And 124 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 7: who might be now looking at it like, hey, I've 125 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 7: really got to prove something this camp in order to 126 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 7: make sure I got a job. 127 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 8: Boll Hannah Is it's not great for him, you know, 128 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 8: I think he I think it sounds like he's gonna 129 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 8: play more of a one technique. But he's got the 130 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 8: I mean, just look at the clip. I don't know 131 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 8: if you saw the one where he's jumping exactly. That's 132 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 8: is that the what is that? That's not a broad jump? 133 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 7: That's the like it's like a standing broad jump, like 134 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 7: it's not a run as a standing brode. 135 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 8: So then he does like in a row like explosive 136 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 8: that's unbelievable. So I think he's got ability to play 137 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 8: inside as both the one and the three. I think 138 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 8: it was I think dan Quinn said they may even 139 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 8: put those guys in there together, so well, he's going 140 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 8: to be right in the middle of it, right in 141 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 8: the middle of the trenches. I mean, this is if 142 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 8: hank is still playing at a high level. This this 143 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 8: is the you know, to me some comparison to Jonathan 144 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 8: Allen and Payne for Washington, I think you have a 145 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 8: chance because what those guys are. They have some agility, 146 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 8: but they have a lot of strength to and you know, 147 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 8: the Eagles have beefed up there inside. The Giants have 148 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 8: some really good defensive tackles. I think the Cowboys now 149 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 8: are trying to say, well, you know, we're gonna match 150 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 8: up with that as well. 151 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: It kind of allows you to take Mazzi Smith at 152 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: training camp and give him all the reps knowing you 153 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: have an idea what Jonathan Hankins is, so maybe you 154 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: saved some wear and tear on Jonathan Hankins going into 155 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: the season. You know, yeah, he's going to get reps 156 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: and stuff during practice. But to be honest, with every 157 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: practice that we attend in Oxnard, we need to be 158 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: watching Mazzi Smith playing with OsO diggi Za. We need 159 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: to watch him with Chauncey Golston, whoever they're going to 160 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: play at that three. Fojoko, who they just drafted, you know, 161 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: he's listed as a defensive end. You know, you talk 162 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: to Shari Floyd about it the bit he's saying they're 163 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: interested in moving Fojoko into that three technique. So yeah, 164 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: as many is, if you could save some weird tear 165 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: on Hankins and then but also get Mazi all the 166 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: reps and get him in the rotation with the other 167 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: guys who he's going to play with. That's how you're 168 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: going to quickly figure out exactly where he needs to 169 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: play and how much he needs to play. 170 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 8: And irony is kind of a funny thing because back 171 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 8: in twenty thirteen they had the I believe, the nineteenth 172 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 8: pick in the draft and the best guy it seemed 173 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 8: like with Sharif Floyd. Yeah, but they priennally didn't really 174 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 8: want to take that guy. I don't think that was 175 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 8: where the Cowboys were picking, and they even said it themselves, 176 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 8: we don't take this type of player. Ten to twelve 177 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 8: years ago. Well, now they moved back to thirty one 178 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 8: or thirty two, they got Frederick great pig. Of course 179 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 8: Cherie Floyd now didn't really have a great career, and 180 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 8: now now he's coaching and he's going to be one 181 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 8: of the guys coaching Mazzi Smith. As they did change 182 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 8: their their philosophy, so you know so well. 183 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: I think the philosophy switch is big, and I think 184 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: what them making the trades early for the wide receiver 185 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: and making the trade for the corner really opened up 186 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: the board for them. This was a really difficult draft 187 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 3: for us on our end, I know, on the draft show, 188 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 3: to have to figure out exactly. I mean, we learned 189 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: some things along the way. Yes, they liked the tight end. 190 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 3: Yes they had the tight ends in a different order. Yes, 191 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 3: they were willing to Mozzie Smith was a name that 192 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: was talked about, you know, along with others that maybe 193 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 3: if they got wiped out, that they would be considered. 194 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: I don't think they felt like they got wiped out 195 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 3: here we were saying that they were gonna get wiped out, 196 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: they would take Mozzie Smith. They were all on board 197 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 3: with Mozzie Smith, you know, with him and bergeron from Syracuse. 198 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: You know, I mean, either way they would have gone there, 199 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: that would have really helped what they were trying to do. 200 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 7: And quite frankly, it seemed like Mozzie Smith was the 201 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 7: guy they targeted going into this draft, like they really 202 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 7: wanted him, they really wanted to add him to their defense. 203 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 7: And I think a lot of that has to do 204 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 7: with the fact that you look at like you said, Nick, 205 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 7: there was some games, particularly two years ago, but even 206 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 7: last year, especially in games where Hankins was not there, 207 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 7: they had some problems stopping the run, and I think 208 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 7: that it was like, if you look at this defense, 209 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 7: they feel like they got the pass rushers. They fact 210 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 7: they got the ballhawks on the second in the secondary. 211 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 7: At this point, it really is about can you force 212 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 7: teams if you win on the early downs, can you 213 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 7: force teams into obvious passing situations? And if you can 214 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 7: do that, that makes your defense even better because now 215 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 7: you make them go against the strength of your defense, 216 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 7: which is your pass rush. 217 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 5: All right, let's move on. 218 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 7: Let's go to the second round, pick number fifty eight 219 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 7: overall tight end Luke Shoon Maker Scoon it is Schoon 220 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 7: Okay Akoon Shoon and Okay Schoonmaker Michigan tight end, give 221 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 7: me a scout report on Yeah with. 222 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: A thing with Luke Schoonmaker. Michigan is a very physical team. 223 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: We talked about Big ten football. We mentioned it with 224 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: Maszi Smith that how they play with a lot of 225 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 3: different guys that are really tough up front. Lucas one 226 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: of those guys. Blake Korum is a running back. If 227 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: you watch the Big Big ten noon football, it's Michigan 228 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: usually playing somebody and you'll see Michigan the way they 229 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: run the ball downhill and they're one of the Michigan 230 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: was one of the top college offensive lines this year. 231 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: They won the Joe Moore Award for their five guys. 232 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: Luke Schoonmaker was a big part of what they do. 233 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: When they run the ball with Blake Krum, they usually 234 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: run it behind Schoonmaker and he's a He could play 235 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: in line why, which means he can line up next 236 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: to the tackle. You could flex him. You could also 237 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: bring him in motion. He's a really good point of 238 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: attack blocker. I think the scheme limits his ability to 239 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: catch the football. I don't think this is Wiskegan's game. 240 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: The Michigan scheme. I don't think the Michigan scheme allows 241 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: him to play with the way that he is capable 242 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: of playing. You could see him getting down the field 243 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: finding space, they drag him underneath. You see him catch 244 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: balls along the sidelines. You see him make plays in 245 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: the red zone. He has got a real feel for 246 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: how to get the ball into the end zone when 247 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: he gets the opportunity need to do that. So I 248 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 3: feel like though in this scheme, they will find ways 249 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: to get him in routes, the combinations and allow him 250 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: to show more of this. But the blocking stuff is 251 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: special in the way that, again the ball is coming 252 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: behind him, He's not on the back side on a 253 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: lot of plays. He's right there at the point of 254 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: attack getting those blocks. 255 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 8: And what I was told I was talking to a 256 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 8: few people about him. If you if you create all 257 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 8: of the aspects that a tight end needs, you know, 258 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 8: the pass catching, the blocking, the awareness, the agility, just 259 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 8: everything about it, from one to ten, he's going to 260 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 8: have the highest score right now than any other tight 261 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 8: end on the team. He may not be the best, 262 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 8: you know, route runner, pass catcher, but what he makes 263 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 8: up for is the blocking. But he's not that far 264 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 8: behind on the other side, I think, you know, and 265 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 8: Lunda Wells also said that that he's a guy that 266 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 8: could be a three down tight end, and that's that's 267 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 8: pretty rare to come into the league and be a 268 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 8: guy that could be three downs. 269 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: He doesn't labor at all getting up the field. That's 270 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 3: not a problem at all. There's sometimes some of these 271 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: guys that if they're just block, kind of block only 272 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: guys that they struggle to, you know, have a little 273 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: bit of that wiggle to be able to get up 274 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 3: the field and make the routes. I think the awareness 275 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: you mentioned is something that's really and I feel like 276 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 3: he's got some dependable hands. I mean you see him 277 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: like you know, he'll he'll adjust the catch radius, he'll adjust. 278 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 3: And the quarterbacks at Michigan aren't really accurate though in 279 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: the football. So you know, my last line of my 280 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 3: notes was respect the way he blocks, but also the 281 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: way he catches the ball. That was the last line 282 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: I had in my notes. And you know, is it 283 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: maybe around early? You know, yeah, but you got to 284 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: remember when you're picking at the back end of the draft, 285 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: you sometimes have to go around early because you're not 286 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: going to get that player coming back around. It just 287 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: doesn't happen just when you think like, hey, we got 288 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: to hit this pick now, because if we don't, we're 289 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: not going to have you know, I know they really 290 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: liked Laporta from Iowa a lot, and you know that 291 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 3: was something that that that surely considered. But Schoonmaker was 292 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: kind of in that. I mean, I had Schoonmaker and 293 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: Laporta in the same round on my board right there, 294 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: so I understand exactly what they did that was gonna be. 295 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: My question was just wondering if, oh my god, I 296 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: can really speak today, I'm sorry, wondering if they actually 297 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: picked him because they had a high grade on him 298 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: and they actually wanted him, or because they were forced 299 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: to kind of address the position, giving the fact that 300 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: as soon as the second round started you started seeing 301 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: a lot of those tight ends being picked. So as 302 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: far as like what you guys saw or what you 303 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: would assume how things were went down, do you think 304 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: he was actually a guy that the Cowboys kind of 305 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: were high on him? 306 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: I think there absolutely were high on him. I mentioned 307 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: I think the coaching staff was really high on Laporta, 308 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: and I feel like though when the trade went ahead 309 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: of them in the first round where it was Kincaid, 310 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: you when you saw the war room camp. They weren't bothered. 311 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: They didn't look there was no you know, banging of 312 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: the tables or no quick adjustments. Everybody looked pretty calm. 313 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: They were they were they were okay with what was 314 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: going on in the draft. They had their guys in mind. 315 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: Mozzie Smith was a guy obviously that they completely had 316 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: in mind. But when they got around to the pick, yeah, 317 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: you saw some guys going and I think that if 318 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: Laporta was there, they would have they would have picked Laporta. 319 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that. But they also told us 320 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: pre draft Stephen Jones that I know in one O 321 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: five three of the Fan that he said, you know, 322 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: it's hard to find guys that can do both, and 323 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: that's what Schoonmaker can do. He can block. I mean, 324 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: and you look at the athletic testing numbers. If you 325 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: were one of these people that believe in metrics and 326 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: all those things, Luke Schoonmaker's athletic testing numbers were much 327 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: better than what you had with your You know, you're 328 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: with Jake Ferguson. I mean, he's a much better, much 329 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: better athlete than Jake Ferguson. So you know that to me, 330 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: if you got a blocker, a good athlete, and then 331 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: you show some ability to catch the football. It made 332 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: perfect sense why they did what they did. 333 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, and also you know you're talking about how big 334 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 8: of a need it was. I think it was a need. 335 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 8: I don't think it was a major need because if 336 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 8: it was, they had a chance to take the highest 337 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 8: tight end or rated on their board. I mean when 338 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 8: he was there at twenty six, I don't think I 339 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 8: don't think that was their highest rated. 340 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: Tight end. 341 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 8: So and they had a chance to get them. So 342 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 8: if you have a major need and the best is available, 343 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 8: you would take them. They they wanted to do it, 344 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 8: but they also look at a value and they said, 345 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 8: all right, you know the difference between this tight end 346 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 8: and then the second round as opposed to Mazzie Smith 347 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 8: and the next defensive tackle, we're going to get stuff 348 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 8: to run. Probably it's not comparable. So they went that rounde. 349 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 8: So not the first time we've seen a team. You 350 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 8: were in the room when when it was a deep 351 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 8: tight end class back in two thousand and three, and 352 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 8: they could have taken the second round they took out 353 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 8: john but they took Al Johnson thinking we'll get some 354 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 8: deep tight ends here in the third round. 355 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 5: And would be available. 356 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 8: But he will we thinking somebody would be available, and 357 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 8: it was written so you know, sometimes that just clothes 358 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 8: to show what type of need. 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We're on it. 419 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 7: Hey, nick I had a question for you, Wayne mcgarrity. 420 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 7: He was was he selected or was he a free 421 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 7: agent that the Cowboys brought in as. 422 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 8: A draft third probably a third round pick, third or 423 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 8: fourth in nineteen ninety nine, maybe the fourth? 424 00:19:59,359 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 5: Okay? 425 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 7: Was that the last time that one of my long 426 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 7: horns was drafted by the Cowboys. 427 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 8: You know, I don't know. Maybe we did a documentary 428 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 8: on somebody, you know, Well I'm missing I was a 429 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 8: blocker that was bellied. 430 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 3: As a kid. 431 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I forgot he went to Texas. You're right, 432 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 7: Amber knows something about it, and Amber knows something about him. 433 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 7: But did you forget he forgot about him? Literally forgot 434 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 7: about him. I remember Wayne McGarty. I remember Wayne McGarty 435 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 7: from back in nineteen ninety nine, but did not remember 436 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 7: Connor Williams. 437 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 8: But and then they took Peppy's own there. I just 438 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 8: wanted to remember Peppy. Wayne McGarty had like eight knee surgeries. 439 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 8: I think if any I think if yeah, if Wayne 440 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 8: mcgartty had been playing. Now you know, it's it's just different. 441 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 8: I mean we were talking I was talking with Patrick 442 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 8: Walker upstairs just a few minutes ago about the ACL 443 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 8: injury back in nineteen ninety nine. You were like, okay, 444 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 8: wait death like yeah, right, is this the end of 445 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 8: his career? 446 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: You know? 447 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 8: And now it's just like can he come back in 448 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 8: six weeks? You know, which isn't the case. 449 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 5: But it's just different. 450 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 8: It is, it is different, But yeah, Texas guys, they 451 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 8: may have drafted another one. I know, I'm just start 452 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 8: trying to think. I mean, Roy Williams, the receiver obviously 453 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 8: wasn't a draft pick. Trying to think of other Texas 454 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 8: players that have come in, but. 455 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 5: We got he was. 456 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 8: Leonard Davis is one of the players, in my opinion, 457 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 8: that changed the way the NFL is thinking, because when 458 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 8: you were that big and that strong and you wanted 459 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 8: to take it alignment, you have to play him at tackle. 460 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 8: Same with Robert Gallery, you got to play him at 461 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 8: tackle to justify the picking him that high. But in 462 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 8: reality they were really a better guard and once they 463 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 8: went to a different team and played guard. Maybe Gallery 464 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 8: did not go to a different team, but he did 465 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 8: eventually go to guard, and then you're like, this is 466 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 8: all pro player or a Pro Bowl player. So and 467 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 8: I think I think it put a little bit more 468 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 8: value in the guard position just seeing those guys. But 469 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 8: Leonard Davis, when he walked through the door at the combine, 470 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 8: I remember what was with you at the combine he 471 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 8: walked through the door. He kind of had to ways. 472 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 8: I mean, he was the biggest human being. 473 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 3: We were all worried that we couldn't get out if 474 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 3: something happened. Yeah, we like think it can Leonard get 475 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: out of here? Because if something happened in the room 476 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: and we had to make a rush for the door, 477 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: we couldn't get past Leonard. That was he was huge. 478 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: He was Jeff Swaying by the way Texas. 479 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 5: Yes, seventh round, Yes, seventh Yeah. 480 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 7: That was another one that we were all kind of like, 481 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 7: was this I remember on draft day like that anything 482 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 7: on him? 483 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: That's what Dane I think it was mad. Dane was 484 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: really mad. 485 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 8: It was like, I'm no longer doing two hundred players 486 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 8: a position, I'm doing three hundred. Actually had him on 487 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 8: the list, just wasn't a profile or whatever. He had 488 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 8: him on the list. 489 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 7: All right, let's talk about the latest Texas Longhorn. We 490 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 7: drafted the Dallas Overshown. I think Overshown is a very 491 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 7: interesting player because at Texas, like they did so many 492 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 7: different things with him. He was a guy that kind 493 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 7: of he could rush the pass, so he could do 494 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 7: some coverage stuff. 495 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 5: He was all over the field. 496 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 7: The one thing that that seemed to happen to me, 497 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 7: and again I don't watch film on tis, I just 498 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 7: watch it as a fan, But there would be games 499 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 7: where it felt like he kind of just disappeared, like 500 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 7: he just wasn't It wasn't in every game type player. 501 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 7: He wasn't one of those players that he was a 502 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 7: player that on defense everybody talked about going as a 503 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 7: game overshowing, what's he gonna do this week? 504 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 5: Whatever? 505 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 7: Him in the defensive tackles, which over the years, defensive 506 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 7: tackles become a really strong position for us. But but 507 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 7: that being said, he he is just he has a 508 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 7: lot of ability and is a very talented skilled athlete. 509 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 7: He just had some games where he just didn't seem 510 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 7: to quite show up. That would be my as a 511 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 7: fan scouter report on him. What would you guys say 512 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 7: from a that after watching film on him as a 513 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 7: scoutering report on over. 514 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 3: Well, it's a shame you missed the Oklahoma State, Baylor 515 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 3: and Alabama games and you're a fandom there because those 516 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: are the games I watched and I thought he was 517 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 3: really good. 518 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: No. 519 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's the thing in a lot of games 520 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 7: at games would be like man, where's where's over yeat? 521 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 5: Like where's zero doing? 522 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: You know this guy? I mean the thing that you 523 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 3: the thing that I trust about this player, because I 524 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: don't think Texas has used him correctly. I really don't. 525 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 3: And I know that Gary Patterson and all that was, 526 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: you know, they were all working with you know, maybe 527 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: he got caught in between some schemes and stuff like that. 528 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: This guy's converted safety and so you know, at six three, 529 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,719 Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty nine pounds, there's talk about putting 530 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: some more weight on him and maybe even making him 531 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 3: let him be a defensive end was a pot that 532 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 3: some people had that thought before the draft. This guy 533 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 3: could really chase the ball, though. I mean, it's impressive 534 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 3: for a guy this big, how how well he moves 535 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 3: the sideline, the sideline type of player, and I think 536 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 3: it does a really good job of getting the ball 537 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 3: carrier down. He's a good wrap up tackler. He does 538 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: play with some power. You can use him inside and outside. 539 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: So that's kind of where I think Texas got a 540 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 3: little wonky with him right there. But I've seen him 541 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: rush the passer and I've seen him have some success 542 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: off the edge. He's got explosive quickness, he plays with 543 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: a burst, he can redirect, He's got a feel for 544 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 3: how to play pass coverage. Believe it or not sizing 545 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: his length the awareness to carry guys. You'll see guys 546 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 3: running routes and he's kind of you see him, Okay, 547 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 3: that's my guy, gotta go. He's not a oh wait, 548 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: what just happened guy? He actually can see this. This 549 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: is one of these types of players where you know 550 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 3: that dan Quinn and those guys over there have a 551 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 3: plan for what they want to do with him, you know. 552 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 3: And I remember that this just this past draft. Asked 553 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: asking Justin Stuckey who we had the opportunity interview, and 554 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: he he was the one who first scouted. He'd did 555 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: the report on Michael Parsons and he I said, hey, 556 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 3: did you see Michael Parsons as a pass rush? And 557 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: he says, no, I didn't. So I'm thinking, ah, dan 558 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 3: Quinn a d all least, these coaches they have a 559 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 3: plan for a lot of these guys and what they 560 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 3: potentially could do the fact that they made Curse a 561 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 3: nickel linebacker and played as well, I could see those 562 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 3: guy's having the same vision for this type of player 563 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: and find me like a Curse to be a guy, 564 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: to be a guy that they put in position to 565 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: make plays and they allow him to get to the 566 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: ball because that's the one thing this guy can do. 567 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 3: He can cover some ground and there is a physical 568 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: side to his game. But I understand what you're saying 569 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 3: about him as a player. But I know in the 570 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 3: games I watched, I came away with like, man, this 571 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: guy does a lot for for you know, but you're 572 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 3: worried about like Oka, he's up, he's back, he's down, 573 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 3: he's there. You know, they they knew that they had 574 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 3: a special player. I just think these guys are going 575 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 3: to take it to another level with him. 576 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 2: Yes, it's weird to see him. We're watching highlights if 577 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: you guys are watching the video right now. But it's 578 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: just weird to see him as a linebacker because of 579 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: his size. You know, it's not typically the type of 580 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: size you see, especially with what we have here, the 581 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: body type that we usually have that the Cowboys have 582 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 2: at the linebacker position. But we'll see. Maybe he makes 583 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: off for it in speed. I mean, he seems to 584 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: the field pretty good. 585 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 7: But you know that's where I thought, Like, as I 586 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 7: was thinking how they gonna use him, I started thinking, 587 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 7: is he Jyaron Curse two point zero? You know, because 588 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 7: I look at him as a guy because he has 589 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 7: so many diverse talents, like you really could move him around. 590 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 7: And by the way, now you can blitz him maybe 591 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 7: a little bit more than they do with Curse. There 592 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 7: are lots of different things you can do with him. 593 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 7: I think he is a phenomenal athlete, like that was 594 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 7: the one thing you could say about him. He was 595 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 7: all over the field, Like he was one of those 596 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 7: players that was just all over the field making plays. 597 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 7: And I just I do think that when when Dallas 598 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 7: s elected him, and from what I've what I've been 599 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 7: what I've kind of heard, they had him pretty high 600 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 7: on their draft board, I think it was a second 601 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 7: round grade maybe for him. So that says to me, 602 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 7: that says to me they have a vision for this 603 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 7: player that maybe is even different than what a lot 604 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 7: of other teams evaluate him as as just a linebacker 605 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 7: or just the safety or wherever it is that they 606 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 7: think they would want to play him. I think Dallas 607 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 7: has a special role for him that they're thinking about 608 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 7: that makes him very valuable. 609 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: Well. 610 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 3: The thing about him, too, is it came down to 611 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 3: that meaning the discussion was with another Texas player, with 612 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 3: Roshawn Johnson, and then you're right, Derek they had overshown 613 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: clearly around ahead of what they had ro Shawn Johnson, 614 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 3: So you know that's that was the discussion, but the 615 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 3: planned part of it. I totally agree with you. 616 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 8: On I just think that a lot of these guys, 617 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 8: you know, that's that's just something that when fans look 618 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 8: at they are not looking at players the way the 619 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 8: Cowboys are or the way the teams are. And even 620 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 8: like some of your your draft analysts that you know 621 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 8: that they cover them, that they have to cover these 622 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 8: guys globally, not so much what they need for each 623 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 8: specific guy, but it's also to twenty twenty four free agency. 624 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 8: I mean like they are looking at free agency in 625 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 8: twenty twenty four thinking, all right, Curse is a free 626 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 8: agent at the end of this year, are we going 627 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 8: to resign him? Is you know if not, if we don't, 628 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 8: can this guy do what he does? Or you know, 629 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 8: Hankins is on a one year deal. If he doesn't 630 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 8: come back next year because he's getting up there in age, 631 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 8: does Mazie Smith come in for that? So there's more 632 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 8: than just take this guy because he was the highest 633 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 8: rated player I see. There's there's a lot of actors 634 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 8: in is how does he fit, how does he fit 635 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 8: long term? So I think Overshown's that type of guy. 636 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll tell you that I'm really excited about this pick. 637 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 7: I would have been excited for him or Roshan because 638 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 7: I think both of them are really good players. Obviously, 639 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 7: you guys know what my feelings were on the other 640 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 7: running back and how much I wanted him. But I 641 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 7: thought both these two players were really, really good players, 642 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 7: and I was excited for the Cowboys to get one 643 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 7: of them because I do think they that it will 644 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 7: pay dividends down the road. 645 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 5: They will be able to find a good. 646 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 3: Role for him. 647 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 7: All Right, let's talk about the fourth round pick and 648 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 7: the fourth round pick, number one, twenty nine. They pick 649 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 7: Villiami Junior Fioko from San Jose State. 650 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 5: Gimme a Scotter report on him. 651 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a guy they're probably gonna play as 652 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: a three technique. He's a defensive end at San Jose State. 653 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: You're talking about a guy that's super active in the 654 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 3: way that he's always around the football. He's one of 655 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 3: those guys I gambled on of my two hundred and ten. 656 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: I didn't see him, and I had to go back 657 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 3: Luckily the guys like Zach Walchuk and Iish and him 658 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: had seen him during the drift, so they were able 659 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: to cover him up. But he was a defensive end. 660 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: But they're going to play him at that three technique 661 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: because what he's got is he's got the ability. He 662 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: plays with tremendous quickness. You can see here on the 663 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 3: highlights if you're falling along, I know, if you're listening, 664 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: I'm sorry about that. That's terrible radio on my part. 665 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: But you could see this guy on the outside here, 666 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 3: and what he's able to do is close down on 667 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 3: the scrimmage. You see the redirection right there. I mean, 668 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: he can close some ground. But they feel like if 669 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 3: they can move him inside and play that three technique 670 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: on the shoulder and get him even closer to the ball, 671 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: that he could win on those those one on one 672 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 3: blocks and then be able to get right on the quarterback. 673 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 7: He has the body type for three techniques. He does 674 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 7: puts a little more weight on. 675 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 3: He does. He just put a little bit more weight on. 676 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 3: But you see him right here in the technique right 677 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 3: you know, with he was playing inside there and then 678 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, now well they circle the wrong 679 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: guy for you right there. But here you are with 680 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: a guy like I say that that played on the edge, 681 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: knows how to play with his hands, knows how to 682 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 3: get up the field, plays with a great deal of power. 683 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: You could see right there the close you know, took 684 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: the ball away from the quarterback right there too, So 685 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: you know, good for him. But that's where I think 686 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 3: the plan for him is three technique. 687 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 688 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 3: I know some people asked me, could this be Tyrone Crawford? 689 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: You know, could that be the kind of I think? 690 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: I think this guy is quicker than Crawford. I don't 691 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: think he's as stiff as Crawford was, but but the 692 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 3: same kind of idea. I appreciate the thought about a 693 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: guy that could play the end or play the three. 694 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: I think this guy, I think there's another guy that 695 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: got a plan for for playing that three right there? 696 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 7: That What does that mean for a guy like Golston 697 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 7: who right now, Golsten is kind of that guy that's 698 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 7: kind of in between play some defensive end can play 699 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 7: tackle as well. 700 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: I think it's more about Neville Gallimore, to be honest 701 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 3: with you, I think it's I think they really like 702 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 3: Golston at that as a three. 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Back to the break. 768 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 8: Country Music is rocking the Star in Frisco with a free, 769 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 8: multi day fan festival ahead of the big show. Come 770 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 8: celebrate country music's party of the year at the ACM 771 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 8: Country Kickoff May ninth and tenth. The fun starts each 772 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 8: day at three pm with live performances from the newest 773 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 8: country music stars, pop up shops, exclusive artists, merch, a 774 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 8: beer garden, food trucks, and much more. Visit acmcuntrykickoff dot 775 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 8: com for more info that will be happening now. 776 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 5: Okay, by the way, that will be happening next week. 777 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 7: We also got for Cowboys fans also to know next 778 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 7: Thursday or next week. I don't know if it's Thursday, 779 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 7: one day next week, maybe even Wednesday, we may have 780 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 7: the schedule release. 781 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 5: It looks like it's gonna be happening sometime next week, 782 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 5: so keep that on. 783 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 7: Well, I thought it might be it's sometime next week, 784 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 7: I think, but but it just keep an eye on, 785 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 7: just keep an eye on it. 786 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 5: And uh and we will we will let you know. 787 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 7: And we certainly as we all know, that always is 788 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 7: a fun day because we get to see all the 789 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 7: different things that teams are working on to announce. 790 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 5: Their hell that happens as well. But but yeah, that'll be. 791 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 7: Happening I think sometime next week. A CMS is Thursday night, 792 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 7: she is busney. It'll be a busy week out here. 793 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 3: At the start. 794 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 5: Oh, the rookies come in Thursdays. 795 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 7: Rookies come in Thursday's a rookie mini camp next weekend 796 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 7: as well, so. 797 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 5: It'll been busy. 798 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 3: The same time is the is the Music Awards. 799 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 7: They should probably be arriving about the same time. I think, yeah, 800 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 7: we'll figure all that out. 801 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 8: These guys are going to come in here and they're 802 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 8: going to be like, you know, it's just different here 803 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 8: in Dallas. Yeah it is. Yes, it's not like AGAs 804 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 8: buddy the Yeah, I got drafted by Atlanta, Like, oh, 805 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 8: it's cool. Like I walked in and I met Dolly pardon. 806 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 5: It lurks like it just it's what we do. 807 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 7: All right, Let's let's get these day three picks. I'm 808 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 7: gonna go around the table. You guys, give me one 809 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 7: person from day three, uh, that you want to talk 810 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 7: about that you think was an interesting picnic. 811 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 5: Let's start with you. 812 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 8: Well, I mean, if your name's awesome, you better be so. 813 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 8: Some Richards the the you know, offensive tackle from North Carolina. 814 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 8: But he's really I think that they they like these 815 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 8: tackles that can that can play guard. He's played one 816 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 8: game at guard, but he's got the versatility to do that, 817 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 8: and so I think that's, you know, that's going to 818 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 8: be the type of player he's going to be. It's 819 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 8: come in here and try to learn two positions. We'll 820 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 8: see how s Marty. 821 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: Is super athlete. 822 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 7: By the way, is there any chance whatsoever that he 823 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 7: could be your starting guard next year? 824 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I would leave the tackle. Yeah, 825 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 3: i'd leave an offensive tackle, beynest with. I mean, you've 826 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 3: got a lot of tackles, I know, but you watch 827 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: got a lot of you watched in the ac of 828 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 3: how this kid played, which is crazy along. I know 829 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 3: right now, he is he is, He's a he's a 830 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 3: legitimate tackle. 831 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 8: I love the fact that what Mike McCarthy said at 832 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 8: the owner's meetings a few weeks ago, months ago, says, 833 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 8: I'm not even trying anymore to hope that these guys 834 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 8: will be you know that I'll have all my lineman. 835 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 8: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna expect them to get hurt, 836 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 8: but I'm gonna have a lot of them and a 837 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 8: lot of options, and so they're giving themselves. 838 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 5: Long just position flexes, every really important here. Yeah, all right, 839 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 5: let's let's talk about Douce fun dude. 840 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 7: He was selected six round, the second six round, pick 841 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 7: number two, twelve, running back from Kansas State. 842 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 2: Well, I'm pretty sure everyone knows about him at this point. 843 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 2: The moment the call went absolutely viral. I think it 844 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 2: was trending on Twitter. He's the son of one of 845 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 2: the Cowboys scouts, Chris Vaughan. He's a guy that you know, 846 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 2: you might think, oh, he got drafted because his dad 847 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: is a scout and probably put in a good word 848 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: or something, but no, you look at his his college 849 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 2: history and you see why he got drafted because of 850 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 2: his own skill and talent. He's not necessarily a very 851 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 2: tall guy or anything like that, but he's fast. We're 852 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 2: looking at the highlights right now. He has the speed, 853 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 2: he's explosive, he can run, so super excited to see 854 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 2: him come in here and see what he can do 855 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: with the team. And everyone here was celebrating. Everyone was 856 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 2: very very happy, and as a parent, every parent out 857 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 2: there definitely felt that moment that call. But again, make 858 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 2: no mistake, he's not here because of his dad. He's 859 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 2: here because he actually deserves it. 860 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 5: If he was five nine, probably have been a second 861 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 5: or third round. 862 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely catches the ball very very well. He's explosive. 863 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 3: His long speed might not be great, but where he 864 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 3: makes up for it is the initial quickness and his 865 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 3: ability to, as we see right here, to finish. He's 866 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 3: a very good receiver of the football. 867 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: Actually, I think his size kind of helps him sometimes high. Yeah, 868 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 2: he just kind of quick, quick, quick moves and escapes. 869 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's actually a history of some guys not 870 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 3: at five to five, but there's a history of some 871 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 3: shorter running backs that did have had some success in 872 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 3: the in the NFL. 873 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 7: Primary one being Darren Sprolls, who is also a mental 874 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 7: went to uh win to Kansas State, So yeah, he's 875 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 7: already got that connection and and uh and then communicating 876 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 7: with him on a somewhat I guess regular basis. But 877 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 7: but yeah, it's I look at this pick and I 878 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 7: love the fact that the Cowboys got him where they 879 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 7: got him. To me, it's great value and you just 880 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 7: see what you can throw him in. The one question 881 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 7: I have for you guys, I've heard, uh, he also 882 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 7: can do some return type stuff. How does that work 883 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 7: with somebody? How would you, guys evaluate that? When you're 884 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 7: looking at someone like Turpin who can also who's obviously 885 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 7: a really good skilled returner, how do how do you 886 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 7: evaluate that when you look at a guy like this 887 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 7: that may be able to do it as. 888 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 8: Well, they're both one big hit away from not being 889 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 8: available for you. Yeah, I mean that's that's the the 890 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 8: You know, Turpin can't get hit and neither can this guy. 891 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 8: Not really, I'm just saying, you know, but you know 892 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 8: he was. I just think the more guys you can 893 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 8: have that can do this kind of stuff, because the 894 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 8: league guys said it best. And it's the same with 895 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 8: with the punt return you gotta find him first kick 896 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 8: return to you gotta find this guy, and then you 897 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 8: find him, then he might be already passed you. So 898 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 8: I think as a returner he could be valuable as well. 899 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 3: Uh, Turpin might have better long speed and Deuce has 900 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 3: better vision. That's the biggest. 901 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 7: So how would you so if you said one of 902 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 7: them is gonna do punts, one is gonna do kicks, 903 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 7: which ones you think? 904 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: Well? To me? 905 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 3: To me, you have to get Deuce has to show 906 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,439 Speaker 3: me about the receiving it. I mean how he looks 907 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 3: for turning punts and stuff like that. The kickoffs, that's 908 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 3: some that's a hit and miss thing. Depending on if 909 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 3: your indoors outdoors, you're either going to get opportunity or not. 910 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 3: But I think the stuff with the punt, Deuce is 911 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 3: gonna have to show me that. Like But like I 912 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 3: said to being able to secure the ball and the vision. 913 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 3: There were a couple of times where Turpin had opportunities 914 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 3: to score touchdowns and then he made a decision that 915 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 3: when it took him right into darkness instead of running 916 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 3: the light. Yeah, so that's I think the biggest difference 917 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 3: right now between the two. 918 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 5: All Right, Bryan, tell me about Eric Scott. 919 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Eric Scott. You're gonna like Eric Scott. He's six' one, 920 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 3: he's one ninety seven. He plays what we call a 921 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 3: field corner for Southern miss and that means he's one 922 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 3: of those guys have a boundary corner usually that plays 923 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 3: the short side of the field and the field corner 924 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 3: plays the big side of the field, so he he 925 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 3: covers a lot of ground, but he plays a ton 926 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 3: of a ton of zone coverage. So when you watch 927 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 3: him play, he almost plays sideways with his rear face 928 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 3: in the sidelines and they try and funnel everything inside. 929 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 3: Usually if you're field corner, you could play slot too 930 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 3: because you're covering so much ground and stuff. This guy's 931 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 3: got good movement skills. He's not tighte moving at all. 932 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 3: He reacts well when he's pressured. He's not afraid to tackle, 933 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 3: I'm sure beams showing you all those highlights where he 934 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 3: was coming forward and tackling. I watched a couple of games, 935 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 3: the Liberty Game and the two Lane Game where he 936 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 3: had interceptions that were ended up being picked sixes. He's 937 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 3: had five interceptions in his career in thirty four games. 938 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 3: But he breaks on the football well. He's always around 939 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 3: the ball, he tackles well, and he doesn't allow the 940 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 3: receiver to get away from him. The Pro Day numbers 941 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 3: he ran with a bad quad. He retested got in 942 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 3: the four fours high number vertical high number broad jump. 943 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 3: This guy's got a little explosive to his explosiveness too, 944 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:20,919 Speaker 3: to his game. 945 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 7: Real quick, before we end the show, tell me about 946 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 7: Jalen Brooks. 947 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 3: Jalen Brooks is He's a wide receiver from South Carolina 948 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 3: that just not a throwaway guy, really good special teams player. 949 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 3: He's kind of going to take the role of Noah 950 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 3: Brown with can play personal protector, can play the flyer 951 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 3: or the gunner outside, kind of does a lot of 952 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 3: the dirty work inside routes, catches a ball well, Spencer Rattler, 953 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 3: the quarterback kind of got things going late in the 954 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 3: year and throwing the ball better. But initially when you 955 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 3: watch him play ball behind him making a catch ball 956 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 3: behind the hotcher, Yeah, he is a bad ball catcher. 957 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 3: So I would kind of think that you would see 958 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 3: a similarity with him and what Noah Brown used to 959 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 3: do with you, all the dirty things that nobody else 960 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 3: wants to do. This guy can make those types of plays. 961 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 5: So that's like he's got kind of a bigger body 962 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 5: like Noah Brown too. 963 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 3: Yes, a receiver, it does, and you know, and that's 964 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 3: the thing about him is this guy will extend to 965 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 3: go make plays and he's got toughness about him too. 966 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 3: This when you get down sixth, seventh round, you're kind 967 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 3: of looking at traits, but don't sleep on this guy 968 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,800 Speaker 3: as a receiver to come in here and have some 969 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 3: really good practices for you. 970 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 7: All Right, that's a wrap for us. We'll be back 971 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 7: next week. Next week, I want to dig a little 972 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 7: deeper into maybe what this means and certainly what it 973 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 7: means for other players on this team. Where the Cowboys 974 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 7: now sit going into getting ready now for their offseason 975 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 7: work and the and the training camp, and we'll talk 976 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 7: a little bit more about that till then. For nick 977 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 7: Yevan Brian brought us ambergarci Im Derek Heels and this 978 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 7: has been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 979 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 10: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 980 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 10: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 981 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 2: Hey,