1 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: What's that ad? 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: It's spooky, Hey Jukie, I'm pretty sure it's dead. 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: It's coming this way. Wait a minute, Ama Nandez. 4 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: Police. Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted 5 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: by Ras Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people 6 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: that I like about the paranormal. I'll be talking to 7 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: drag Superstar wellhem Belli in just a moment. But first, 8 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: here's a story that was sent to me all the 9 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: way from New Zealand. This story comes from Alicia, who writes, Hi, Roz, 10 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: here's my ghost story from when I I was a 11 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: student in a small town of New Zealand in the 12 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: early two thousands. Me and my three friends found an 13 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: old house as a student flat in the center of 14 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: town to live in whilst we were all studying at 15 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: the local university. It was a rundown piece of shit, 16 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: but close to UNI and close to all the bars 17 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: and pubs, which was very important. When we first moved in, 18 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: a lot of weird stuff started to happen. Our friend 19 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: Mike was the first person to move into the house, 20 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: a week before the rest of us. On the day 21 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: he moved in, he opened the front door, which led 22 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: to a long hallway and he saw a man dressed 23 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: in all black with his back to him. He said hello, 24 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: but the man didn't respond. He assumed it was the landlord. 25 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: He said hello again a little louder, and the man 26 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: started to walk down the hallway away from him, toward 27 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: the back of the house. Mike followed him, thinking he 28 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: didn't hear him say hello, and when he got to 29 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: the back of the house, no one was there. He 30 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 2: called out multiple times but received no answer. Mike, being 31 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: the kind of guy he is, didn't tell the rest 32 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: of us this because he didn't want to freak us out. 33 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: Before moving in. He put it in the I must 34 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: have been hallucinating basket. After a few weeks living in 35 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: the house, we all started to see and hear strange things. 36 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: One night, I woke up extremely hot and sweaty and 37 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: realized my heater in my room had turned on. I 38 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: got up and turned it off and went back to sleep, 39 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: not thinking much more of it. The next morning, my 40 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: housemate mentioned she had woken up really hot and her 41 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: heater had turned on by itself. Mike and our other housemate, Todd, 42 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 2: said the exact same thing happened to them that same night. 43 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 2: We all put it down to an electrical issue and 44 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: contacted the landlord to get it checked out. Spoiler alert. 45 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: It was checked out and nothing was wrong with the electrics, 46 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: and we were told it was impossible for the heaters 47 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: to turn on by themselves due to the type of 48 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: heating we had. They had to be switched manually to 49 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: be turned on. I mean, ghosts are cold, you know, 50 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: it's kind of a famous thing about ghosts. They were like, Okay, 51 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: I'm freezing, you know what, Let's put on. Let's put 52 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: on all the heaters. Okay, back to the story. Another night, 53 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: all of us were sitting in our lounge room watching TV, 54 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, a vodka bottle that was 55 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: sitting on our fridge in the room next door came 56 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: flying into our lounge room from the kitchen and landed 57 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: smack bang in the middle of the room in front 58 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: of us, standing up perfectly and unbroken. What for this 59 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: to happen, It had to veer around a corner through 60 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: an opening between the kitchen and the lounge. Mike got 61 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: up and went into the kitchen to see if someone 62 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: else was in the house. As we left our door 63 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: unlocked for friends to pop on and visit, but no 64 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 2: one was there. That same night, I went to sleep 65 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: and woke up in the middle of the night to 66 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: see a small child in a striped shirt watching me sleep. 67 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: I hid under the covers and said go away, go away, 68 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: go away, over and over. After God knows how long, 69 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: I lifted up the covers and he was gone. The 70 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: next morning, my housemate mentioned seeing a small boy in 71 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: a striped shirt walk past his room down the hallway. 72 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: Needless to say, we only saw out our year lease 73 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: and got the fuck out of the house as soon 74 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: as our lease was up. We named that house ghost Dad, 75 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: and whenever we all chat, ghost Dad always gets brought up. 76 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: Nothing seemed to want to hurt us, but was probably 77 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: just like, let's fuck with these guys. We later learned 78 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: that the property the house sat on was part of 79 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: the art gallery next door, which was part of a 80 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: walking ghost tour of Dunedin. I guess that's the town 81 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: douned in Dunna Din. It was known to be haunted 82 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: and there are loads of stories about that area and 83 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: building having creepy shit happen. Oh my god, that's so weird. 84 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: Like the little boys, Like, Okay, I'm gonna bother this person. Hmm, 85 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: they're not interested. I'm gonna make my way down the hallway. 86 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: And then who was the man dress it all black 87 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: that first day? I think you had some goth in there, 88 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: some goth squatter. Anyway, great story. I love it as always. 89 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: Send me your ghost stories. Ghosted by ras at gmail 90 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: dot com. Okay, Willem is on the show this week now. 91 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: Willem is a drag superstar. She was on Rag Rays 92 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: season four and truly so many TV shows. She's in 93 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: the movie A Star Is Born. I mean, she's a 94 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: working actor and hilarious. And also this bit is raunchy. Okay, 95 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: she goes there so you might you might hear that 96 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: in this conversation, just just so you know. She's a 97 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: fun drag queen type. And I've worked with her. We 98 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: did we've done a couple of things together. But we 99 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: did a we did a tour of Mean Gays a 100 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: couple of years ago, which was a parody of Mean Girls, 101 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: and I played janis Ian and she played Regina George. Perfect, 102 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 2: perfect casting. All right here she is the hilarious Willem Belli. 103 00:06:51,400 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: And with the show Oh my God, at last, I 104 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: am joined by Willem. 105 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: Hello, hey girl, Hey, how you doing? 106 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so good. Do you believe in ghosts? 107 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: I do believe in ghosts and entities and things that 108 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: like can't be explained for sure. 109 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: So what do you mean by all this? Like, were 110 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: you raised with any kind of belief on the sort 111 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: of a thing. 112 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Catholicism basically endorses a zombie. 113 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: Are you Catholic? 114 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: I grew up going to church and like doing the 115 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: confirmation all that stuff, and like they ask you to 116 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: believe in someone that dies and then is resurrected, which 117 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: is zombie bombee, Yeah, ascends to heaven later. Ghost. I 118 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: don't know, the holy spirit ghost ghost. Yeah, there's the 119 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: burning bush hot ghost. Like, there's so many things that 120 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: could be lowest common denominator down from like angel to 121 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: girl spooky ghosts. 122 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: Did you ever eat Jesus? 123 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: I did, but I never believed it was him. I 124 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: just wanted a snack, Like, did you drink him? I didn't. 125 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: I was not. 126 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: I don't like grapes, so I knew I didn't like 127 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: wine from an early age, so and I don't drink now. 128 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: I just never like taste of alcohol. But I love 129 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: being drunk. 130 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: See I'm nine years sober, but honestly I feel like 131 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: me too. 132 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: I stopped drinking twenty fifteen. 133 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, January twenty fifteen. 134 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: For me, mine was August. 135 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: I honestly feel like not to blame more of my 136 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 2: problems on the Catholic Church and being raised in it, 137 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: but I feel like being a child and having a 138 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: sip of Jesus. I was like, I need more Jesus. 139 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: You tasted him. 140 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: I said, Jesus, I want more. 141 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: You give me that Jesus juice. Mama. Yeah. Yeah. But 142 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: I think that ghosts are real. And I've been in 143 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: enough theaters where in England where they're like, oh, this 144 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: theater's haunted, and like I've sworn that people were behind me, 145 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: like waiting in the wings, and I turn around to 146 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: have a full on conversation and I'm like, no one's there. 147 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, yeah, that's that's a ballerina that died 148 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: here in nineteen oh one or something. There's a theater 149 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: in was it it's Whales. I think that was really haunted. 150 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: That I've been to twice now for two different shows 151 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: and two different years, for like a week span at 152 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: a time, and I swore this ghost remembered me and 153 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: came up behind me. 154 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: What did it do? 155 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: All I did was I felt someone behind me, and 156 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: I started like talking because I was just about to 157 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: go on, and I was like really quiet, and then 158 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: it turned around and nobody was there, and I was like, 159 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: I'm not crazy. I know someone was behind me. I 160 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: heard them come up behind me, and like the people 161 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 1: in the theater told me that like back by the 162 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: Flies where my entrance was, was haunted and that somebody 163 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: hung themselves there, like in the early nineteen hundreds, like 164 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: all those theater ghost stories, like they happened, you know totally. 165 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: I remember asking you a couple of years ago if 166 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: you had ever had a ghost story, because I wanted 167 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: to to have you out, and you were like. 168 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: No, yeah, I haven't. But since then I've toured the 169 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: UK with a couple of West End shows and being 170 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: in those old ass theaters where chances are enough people 171 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: have died that someone's mad that they didn't get apart 172 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: back in the day, so they're like, I'm a fuck 173 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: up and haunt this theater for the rest of my life. 174 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: That's always what it is. It's always somebody that was 175 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: auditioning for some role didn't get it. Yeah, and now 176 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: they're just bitter at everybody that they see performing. 177 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: Some understudy totally or swing. 178 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: Well. Now, living in Hollywood, you spent a lot of 179 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: time in Hollywood. Hollywood, Yeah, and every single building over 180 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: there is haunted. Oh, every single one. 181 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: All of them. I'm next to Bordeners and that's like 182 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: the oldest operating bar in Hollywood. Haunted for sure. It's 183 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: one of the last spots that the Black Dahlia was. 184 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: Like they do the death tours around here on the 185 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: street that I work on on Cherokee, which is right 186 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: by like Hollywood Twain Costume and like all these old 187 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: buildings that were built in like the nineteen tens and twenties, 188 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: and there's history all over here, and some of it 189 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: is apparitional. 190 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's an episode of the TV show Ghost 191 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: Adventures from like maybe two years ago where they go 192 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: to Hollywood toy and Costume. Oh yeah, so that place 193 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: is haunted. They've captured things on their security cameras. Literally, 194 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: I've looked into it all they're all I mean, Roosevelt 195 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: obviously is very haunted. Oh yeah, But my favorite one 196 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: is the Wax Museum on Hollywood Boulevard, like not the 197 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 2: not Madam Tusso is the other one. That place is 198 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: famously haunted. And one time I went there on a date, 199 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 2: which I highly recommend. It's so fun. It's very expensive, 200 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: but very fun. I go in there and I was 201 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 2: talking to the people that work there. I was like, Hey, 202 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 2: so is this place haunted because I had heard that, 203 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: and they were like, why would you say that, And 204 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, I just have heard. 205 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: They're like, we just had something happen and now we're 206 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: starting to think it's haunted. And I'm like, honey, you 207 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: just start working here. You need to google this place 208 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: because it's haunted. 209 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, dreams don't die. I feel like some 210 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: people are like somehow caught in between wherever we go 211 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: in the universe and wherever we were. 212 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: They're spiritually non binary exactly. 213 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: They don't like to stick to one realm. 214 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: Now, what do you think about like UFOs aliens. 215 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it would be so small minded of humans 216 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: on Earth to think that we're alone in the world, 217 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: that we're some sort of special thing that happened in 218 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: the universe just on this planet. Because some magic man 219 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: in the sky said, oh, we'll make two of every animal, Like, 220 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: there's gotta be more. There's got to be more out there. Yeah, 221 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: we know about like eight planets and then like there's 222 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: other universes beyond that. What's in those? Who knows? I 223 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: don't even know what's at the bottom of my cereal box, Like, 224 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I think it would be 225 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: really like small minded of me to think that there 226 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: aren't UFOs. Have I ever seen one? It was either 227 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: a UFO or a shooting star. I don't know what 228 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: it was, but I can't explain. I was in Palm Springs. 229 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: I was on mushrooms, but I was just laying outside 230 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: in my pool and I see like a light appear 231 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: and then move and then stop, and I was like, 232 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: that's not like a shooting star. I've ever seen where 233 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: it appeared. 234 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: And then yeah, no, that's a UFO. 235 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I believe that there's definitely stuff out there. 236 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: So if they would have came down and they're like, 237 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 2: you come in, what would you do? 238 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: I'd have to decide what hair to wear first, but 239 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: I would go. I would definitely go. I would definitely go. 240 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: I would be like can I grab a bag real quick, 241 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: totally grab some peels, because bitch, I would want to 242 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: show those aliens good time. Oh my god. 243 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: Like the reason that the biggest reason I want to 244 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: go is because I feel like I know what's going 245 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: on on this planet. I don't know what. I'm open 246 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: for the mystery. I'm good. Take me and I'll be 247 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: the biggest star on the entire planet. 248 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm thinking like I would grab five things. 249 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: I'd grab a wig, some lipstick, sunglasses, a bottle of water, 250 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: and then poppers. Everything you could need for like a 251 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: quick weekend. 252 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: Well, you know, they get freaky dehey up there, these 253 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: people they would get abducted. 254 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: One would hope. Yeah, I've heard about the probes. 255 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: They got probes up there. 256 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: Give me all that probus. Honey. 257 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: They're sticking things in people, girl, that's. 258 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: Fine, I won't notice. Sometimes people are fucking me and 259 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, who's behind me? The poppers make me forget 260 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: and then I have to concentrate, and then I'm like, wait, 261 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: you know this, you know this, who's behind you? Think? 262 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: What about the ghost ballerina behind you? 263 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: Bitch I would take a dance captain for sure. A ballerina. No, 264 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: but a man. I would let a man ghost fuck 265 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: me for sure. You wouldn't even have to make the 266 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: more of rubber. 267 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: I had Billy Lee from vander Pump Rules on this 268 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: podcast who said that she had sex with a ghost. 269 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: I just did her podcast two days ago. 270 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: I'm doing her podcast next week. 271 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's so nice. I've never seen vander 272 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: Pump Rules, so I had no idea who she was. 273 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: Me neither, but my friend Jojo was on it, so 274 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: I asked him and he's like, oh, yeah, she's a 275 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: trans girl on Vanda Pump Rules. And I was like, 276 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: you told me everything I already know about her. What 277 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: else is there? Jojo? 278 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: Well, here's another thing. She had sex with a ghost. 279 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: I love that for her. I wonder if it was 280 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: butt sex or front sex. You know. 281 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: I don't remember the exact details. I'll have to ask 282 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: her next week, but she's very sure of it. 283 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: Do you have to make a ghost pull out? 284 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: See that's the thing. Do you end up having a baby? 285 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: Can you get ghost come in your hair? Or is 286 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: it clear? 287 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: See these are the questions that we ask on this podcast. 288 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, because sperm itself or semen is clear? But the 289 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: seminal fluid that it's in is. 290 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: Usually cloudy with a chance of meatballs. 291 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: One would hope have you had her on this pot 292 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: meat But. 293 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: No, I haven't. 294 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: I feel like she wouldn't tell the truth, and she 295 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,479 Speaker 1: would lie, and she wouldn't respect the integrity of the supernatural. 296 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: Are you telling the truth? 297 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just stupid to lie. I can't remember stuff. 298 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: The truth is the easiest possible way for me. 299 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: That's great. Yeah, Hey, let me tell you a story 300 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: I researched. Okay, this story is the story of the 301 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: Demon House of Springfield, Louisiana. Oh, have you ever done 302 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: shows in Springfield, Louisiana? 303 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: I haven't. I've done I think I've done Springfield, Illinois, 304 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: but not Louisiana. 305 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: Well, this was featured on a TV show called Paranormal 306 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: Witness and the episode was titled Demon House. So this 307 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: story starts in September of twenty thirteen. What were you 308 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: doing in September of twenty thirteen? So you had already 309 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: been on drag race. 310 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: I can tell you exactly what I was doing. Give 311 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: me one second, because I write every single thing down. 312 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: This is your alibis that we know you weren't the 313 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: demon in Springfield, Louisiana. 314 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: Okay. September twenty thirteen, I was doing the Rocky Horror 315 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: Show in San Antonio, Texas during the weekends, and during 316 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: the week I was filming Kicking Zombie. Asked for Jesus 317 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: in a place called spam Burger, Texas. Spamburger, spam Burger. 318 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: Honey, holy shit, I can't believe you have that. 319 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, good times. 320 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: Well, so I believe you were not at the demons house. 321 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: I am not. 322 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: She Well, this was September twenty thirteen. Scream and shout 323 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: by Britney Spears and will I Am stopping the charts 324 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: good song, and there's some screaming and some shouting going 325 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: on in the home of a young couple named Janine 326 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: and Aj Poor Aj. But there's no Will I am. 327 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: It's haunted. I am by demons. 328 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: Burger's doing jazz in the corner. One handed cartwheels, play 329 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: some basketball. Let's play some basketball. 330 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god. If I ever get possessed, I hope 331 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: I do the one handed cartwheel that Friggie did on 332 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: the Today Show or whatever that was. 333 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: I saw her do it one door and live and 334 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: let die During during a James Bond Tribute and I 335 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: was like, I could never see Shirley Bassey doing a 336 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: one handed cartwheel, Like, can we please class up this 337 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: joint a little bit. 338 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: This story revolves around Janine and aj birth a lot. 339 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: That's her last name, Berth a lot, Berth a lot, 340 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: b E R t h E l O T birth 341 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: a lot. 342 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: I hope they don't have kids. 343 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 2: Wow, spoiler alert, they birth a little because they have 344 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: two kids, two sons named Gage and Hunter Good. 345 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: I was worried it was going to be a girl 346 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: and then when she got titties, they'd call her breast 347 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: a lot. Well, maybe one of the boys still transition 348 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: and then they could be a breast a lot. So 349 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: the a lot. 350 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: Fably, they move into a very inexpensive foreclosed home that 351 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: is a real fixer upper, and as they repair the house, 352 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: they live in a camper in the front yard. Okay, 353 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: I mean it's a mess in there. So Janine one 354 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: day is painting the living room when the radio in 355 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: the kitchen turns off. So it's twenty thirteen, so it's 356 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: probably roar by Katy Perry is playing. 357 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: She's not gonna know when Wango Tango is. 358 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: So she's painting and it's like you kinda he and 359 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: then it shuts off and she's like, wait, what the f. 360 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: She's like, I'm home alone. 361 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: She didn't pay her serious subscription. 362 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: Pandora. She said, there's no Birtha loots in this house, 363 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: so why did Katy Perry just turn off? So she 364 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: goes over there, she turns it back on. She's painting. 365 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 2: It's like raw. However, the song goes and then it 366 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: shuts off again. 367 00:19:59,520 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: Crazy. 368 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: So one day she's doing dishes, she feels a cold 369 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: breath on the back of her neck. She's like, Okay, 370 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: that was weird. She goes back to the dishes and 371 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: then something pokes her and then it pulls her ponytail. No, 372 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: she runs out of the house. When her husband comes home, 373 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure. A few days later, 374 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: she's folding clothes and her son Hunter birth a Lot 375 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: is talking to someone in the other room. 376 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: Who's you're talking to? 377 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: He's talking to his friend. He says that The friend 378 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 2: says if he isn't friends with the friend, then the 379 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: friend is going to hurt Janine the mother. So her 380 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 2: dad comes over and he helps her move stuff out 381 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 2: of the attic. One day, he comes downstairs and he 382 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 2: sees a rosary that is hanging. It's like sort of 383 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: dangling on a doorknob and it's swaying back and forth 384 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: on its own. He's like, that's weird. Suddenly they hear 385 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: loud stomping in the attic and he's like, show yourself. Instantly, 386 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: Janine gets three deep scratches on her back out of nowhere, 387 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 2: the mark of the beast. They decide the boys need 388 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: to stay with their parents. So one day she's showing 389 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: I think maybe the same day she's showing Aj the 390 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: scratches and he's like, uh, you probably just scratched yourself. 391 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: Like he's totally denying it all. Suddenly a door slams, 392 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: and now AJ's a believer, so he hangs up some 393 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: religious paraphernalia all over the house and while doing it, 394 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: all the lights go out. They hear a crackling noise 395 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: and they look over the open Bible on their table 396 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: slams shut in front of their eyes. 397 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: Uh ah, they said, no Deuteronomy. 398 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: She puts a recorder on the table in the house. 399 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: She has like a little audio recorder thing. She puts 400 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: it on the table in the and she like runs 401 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: out to the camper. She's like, I'm not gonna be 402 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: in this house, leaves it there, recording for like thirty minutes. 403 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: She comes back and she listens to it and there's 404 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: some growling, and then it says she will die. 405 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: Oh oh pleasant. 406 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: She's hanging laundry outside one day and she hears the 407 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: boys playing upstairs. She tells them to come down. They don't. 408 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 2: She goes up there. It's quiet, the boys aren't up there. 409 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: She's looking for them when she runs into an invisible wall. 410 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: She then gets pushed to the ground and she's being 411 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: held down, and then a voice says in her ear 412 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: look under. She peels back the carpet and she sees 413 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 2: on the wood floor what she describes as satanic symbols 414 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 2: that have been written on the floor. 415 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: Oh cool, Sharon Needles is there. 416 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: So it seems like somebody that's into this kind of 417 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: dark sided stuff was there before they got the place 418 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: foreclosed because they were doing that instead of paying the bills. 419 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: So they call a minister over to cleanse the place, 420 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: and he's going through the house and she starts getting sick, 421 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: and she's already got a heart condition, so she sits 422 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: down as Aj and the minister continue to cleanse. So 423 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: the minister finishes and then he's like, all right, so 424 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: if you need any any tips on how to keep 425 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 2: the demon away? Do you tip a minister after they 426 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 2: get demons out of your house? 427 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean i'd give him a hondo and just be 428 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: like thank you, shake his hand. 429 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, do one of those. 430 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know. I don't know 431 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: that I tip. I just give him his base rate. 432 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what the custom is 433 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: when when getting a demon cleansed. 434 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: Me neither, but two story house should be more than 435 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: one story house for a demon cleans. 436 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: You would think, Yeah, I feel like a hundred is 437 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: probably good. I don't know either way. It doesn't take. 438 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: AJ goes back and he checks in on Janine and 439 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: she's out of it. So he takes her to her 440 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: parents house, and as they're driving, he asked if she's okay, 441 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: and she looks over at him, and now her eyes 442 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: are pitch black, and she says, in a deep voice. 443 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm fine, Chris Farley, lay off, lay off me. 444 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: I'm starving. So all of a sudden, she's got a 445 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: deep I'm fine. 446 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: Her name is gs Pev. 447 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 2: So they take her into the parent's house. Her eyes 448 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: are pitch black, she's ice cold, and she won't stop 449 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: talking at that voice, and they ask her. Her parents 450 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: are like, what's going on, and she's. 451 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: Like, fine, she said, this is me. 452 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: I was born this way. 453 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: When the sharpest knife gonna cut me down. Go to 454 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: spread the word, go to shower it out what I am. 455 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: So they're reading the Bible to her. The real her 456 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: is sort of coming in and out, and she's like, 457 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: it's in me. It's a quote. She said that it's 458 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 2: in me. So they call the minister back. They're like, 459 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: wait a minute, we paid you. He's like, no refunds, 460 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: no refunds. He shows up and he's spitting verses from 461 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: the Bible. Adder and AJ and her dad are holding 462 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: her down and she starts getting violent. They're calling for Janine. 463 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 2: She's fighting, and then finally it's out and her voice 464 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: is back, her eyes are back, and they moved out 465 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: and they lived in their camper in a relative's backyard. 466 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: Wow, and that's the story. 467 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 2: Of the demon. 468 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: Honestly, I would have gone to Angie's List immediately for 469 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: that preacher and written up that he does not do 470 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: his job. He does not offer refunds or rebates even 471 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: upon the specter's return. I just think that's really unprofessional. 472 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: You say you're gonna do something, then you don't, and 473 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: then the girl gets two black eyes. 474 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: Now, to be fair, we don't know if they paid 475 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: him or any of that. It's all speculation, specter speculation. 476 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: But I will say he showed back up and he 477 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: got it out of her. 478 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: This house was clear, and now it's in me. I 479 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: wonder if when you sell those houses you have to 480 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: disclose paranormal or supernatural occurrences, because I know when there's 481 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: a murder that happens in real estate, or if someone 482 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: dies in the home within I think a two or 483 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 1: four year period, you have to disclose it on your 484 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: MLS or your listing or whatever. 485 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: Right, And it's different from states to state, but usually 486 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: I believe when it comes to like paranormal stuff, it's 487 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 2: more so if the property becomes known as like, oh, 488 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 2: that's the demon house from Paranormal Witness and then people 489 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: start showing up all the time, like you kind of 490 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: need to let people know. They call it stigmatized property. 491 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: So that is a thing. 492 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: But this I don't know. I did find the address 493 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: online and looked at it. Can I show you a 494 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: haunted doll? 495 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: I would love to see a haunted doll. 496 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: Doll, Okay, it's time for a segment I call the 497 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: dolls are Living. Okay, So here's what I do. I 498 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: go to eBay and I type in the words haunted doll, 499 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 2: and I see what comes up. Now, there are hundreds 500 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 2: of haunted dolls for sale at all times. Are you 501 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: familiar with this? 502 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: I know, like Anna Belle and stuff. 503 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: Sure, she is the Beyonce of the haunted doll world, 504 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: but then there's a lot of aspiring Beyonce types. I'm 505 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: talking maybe thousands at a time of people that are 506 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 2: selling haunted dolls, and they come with backstories, and they 507 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 2: range in prices, some up to a couple thousands, some 508 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: are pretty cheap. And usually the story is that a 509 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: person lived, they died, they were given the option heaven, hell, 510 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: or a doll on eBay and that's where they spend 511 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: their eternity or like the case of this one today, 512 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 2: it's another demon. This is definitely a demon episode today, 513 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 2: and this is sort of a never was a human 514 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: energy that is now inside of this doll. 515 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: Just demon doll, a demon doll? 516 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: Sure, jiha, could you show us this doll please? 517 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: Oh? 518 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: Now, I'm not sure. I think the doll's name is 519 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: a Lilan. I don't know. It's a very confusing posting 520 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: in that way. 521 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: It's very Jinx monsoon as Hello. 522 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: Dolly, Yes, big Hello Dolly. 523 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: Hat Is this a walking stick or some Victorian dildo? 524 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: She has a staff of some sort, yeah, a stick 525 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: with a big ball at the end. I don't know 526 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: what she's doing with that thing. 527 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: She could use a nail, that's for sure. 528 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,239 Speaker 2: I think she kind of looks like Riba a little bit. 529 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: It is very Riba. Me and Kelly mantlesaw Riba once 530 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: on the back load at Warner Brothers. Oh my, and 531 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: she was in a golf cart and she stopped her 532 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: golf cart to wave at us, and then she'd started 533 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: right back up. We're like, oh my god, Riba. I 534 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: love Riba. Riba. 535 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like is it a saloon gal? 536 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: She's very much giving, like either Texas Saloon Gal or 537 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: the Mother and Mary Poppins. Yes, it's that. 538 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: Era gigantic ringlets. I mean, if you think about it, 539 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: for like, in terms of like scale. Those are giant 540 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: ringlets on her head. 541 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: They definitely are. It's like a three inch barrel curling 542 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: iron for the equivalent of a human. Yeah. 543 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: And then she's got this big, roughly tiered dress. 544 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: But she's a demon. 545 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: She has a demon somehow she found herself in here 546 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: and she's currently going for thirty five dollars. There's zero 547 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: bids on her. 548 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: Does she have a hoop earring on? Is this a hoop? 549 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: Because that hoop does not feel consistent with the rest 550 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: of the look. Look near the ears. Is that a hoop? 551 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: It's either a hoop or a dangli. I'm not sure. 552 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: She I am zooming in and she's got she's got 553 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: quite the lash. It's a thin, wispy but very long, 554 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: goes up to the eyebrows as only a demon would. 555 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: So she's zero bids thirty five dollars or sixty dollars 556 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: by it now ooh, and it says Lilan demon is 557 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: traced back to medieval times. She has been around an 558 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: extremely long time. A supernatural entity that will appear in 559 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: your dreams and seduce you. She will use her vessel 560 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: as a physical seductress and appear over and over again. 561 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: She wants to steal your sperm as well as your 562 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: energy and bring it back to a male incubus, a 563 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 2: male sex demon. It says, be careful. She will slowly 564 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: drain your soul and existence with each encounter. She needs 565 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: encounters to. 566 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: Thrive at casual encounters. 567 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: Yes, and if not, she will die of sexual starvation. 568 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: Girl, you need to get this all. 569 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: She will always find a way to overcome and get 570 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: what she wants. She has a certain charm that can 571 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: force her victim to obey. She is not for the 572 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: weak mind. Oh and then it says she'll be delivered 573 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: priority mail with urgency, insurance and care. She is large 574 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 2: and that is why shipping is a little high. If 575 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: you need directions, I'm here to help. Every experience is 576 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: different and a magical ride in and of itself. eBay policy, 577 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: I must note that you are buying a tangible item 578 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 2: and not a parentano normal experience. 579 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: So if she doesn't steal your soul within three to 580 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: five business days, can you return her. 581 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything about refunds, but the thing is 582 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: she'll die of sexual starvation, so she does need sperm 583 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: to survive. 584 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: I hope she's not fucking with those postal ladies as 585 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: they deliver her. But if she needs sperm, I could 586 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: just give her an old bath, Matt. There's plenty of 587 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: it on air. Probably can I play you some ghost voices? 588 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: Give me the ghost voices, bitch, I would love to hear. 589 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: It's time for EVP or ev pase, Okay, what's the 590 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: EVP mean. EVP stands for electronic voice phenomenon. It's anytime 591 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: that a prison believes they've captured a ghost speaking. 592 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: Oh cool. 593 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: An example would be the time a ghost called me 594 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: a fagot. 595 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: I'm stopped, not a sulken clock, but a ghost could 596 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: that was. 597 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: That was what we call a spirit box, which is 598 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: a little bit different because those voices are usually coming 599 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: from like radio channels or it's like different. It's more 600 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: like it's being manipulated, like a ghost is almost like 601 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: choosing words. I think something like this is usually more 602 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: so someone's recording and then they hear a whisper or 603 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: some kind of voice saying something. So here's two of them. 604 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 2: The first one is from EPAC Paranormal, and it was 605 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: recorded at a place called the Gil House, which I 606 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: believe is in Galen, Ohio. 607 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: Lots of Midwest ghosts. 608 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: They're everywhere. What's this ghost saying? 609 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: Well, it just sounded like raccoons in a trash can, 610 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: looks like muffled. I couldn't make out any discernible word, 611 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: but they did not sound happy. 612 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: Well, let's tune in really really absorb. 613 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. It could also be the opening of 614 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: Toxic by Brittany you know. 615 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 2: Well, they did not believe that it was raccoons or 616 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: the intro to Toxic by Britney Spears. 617 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: What do they think it was? 618 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: Well, it's one of these ABC or day? 619 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: Was it A? 620 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: I think I'm the shit? 621 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: Was it B? 622 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 2: What about my hair? C? Why do you care? 623 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: Or D? 624 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: Why don't you do share? You know, like a drag claimer. 625 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: It's like you should do share. 626 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: Okay, do it one more time. And now that I 627 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: have that in my head, I can think, Okay, maybe 628 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: why do you care? 629 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 2: That is what they believe. It says, why do you care? 630 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 2: Leave me alone? I'm just a ghost. Okay, now that 631 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: we know that, let's listen again. 632 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: I hear you're in the back. It's like the low part, right, 633 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: what do you care? 634 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's another one. This one's from mace Boy to 635 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 2: K nine and it was recorded at the Bowl, broke 636 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 2: Castle in East Sussex, England. What is it saying? 637 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: Well, sounded like two syllables like this here or sit 638 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: or sit here or listen here or something here regulous 639 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: listen huh or this something maybe? 640 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 2: Well, here's some options. Is it A, it's giving old? 641 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 2: Is it B miss me? Is it C please leave? 642 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 2: Or D Pustina? You know it's like she's serving Pustina. 643 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: I think it's see please leave. Yeah, it's please leave. 644 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 2: You are two for two? Will you have a future. 645 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 2: I'm worried about my career. 646 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: Don't be. They'll google me and they won't and they 647 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: won't use me. 648 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: I hear Puss Tina. Let me play it again. 649 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it could be Puss Tina too, but I don't. 650 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: I don't do the clouds anymore. 651 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: No Pustina, Puss but no Tina got it? Knowles Christina Christina. 652 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, my drag persona was all based around my aunt 653 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: Tina South Philly. Oh so I do love Tina, that 654 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: kind of Tina, but not the smoky kind. 655 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 2: Yeah that's good. 656 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: So acrid and it birds your thumbnails it's not good. 657 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 2: Well, let's do one last thing. I'm gonna just fire 658 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: off a bunch of you know, sort of supernaturally things, 659 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 2: and I'm curious if you have any thoughts on them, 660 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: and maybe who knows what it will inspire. Let's just 661 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 2: hear your thoughts. Hit me horace where you at on that. 662 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm a cancer. I was born on a blue moon, 663 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: and everything that I've read about cancers and people who 664 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: were born on blue moons is true of me. And 665 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: my numerology is like, I'm an eleven like and apparently 666 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: eleven's and two's are the weird ones or eleven and 667 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: nine's I forget they're the like rarest ones. And it's 668 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: all true, Like all the stuff that's typical about cancers 669 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: is true about me. 670 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: So do you check your horoscope? 671 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: No? Yeah, but I uh do affirmation cards so I 672 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: can lie to myself every day a little bit. 673 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: If you are like dating someone or I don't know, 674 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: are there scenarios where were like I need to know 675 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 2: what their sign is? 676 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: Honestly, I never really understood any of that. And then 677 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: after I was with a guy for like fourteen years 678 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 1: and we're still married but were separated, and I looked 679 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: up who cancers are most compatible with and it's scorpios. 680 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: And my ex was a scorpio and I had no 681 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: clue until we were done. And the guy that I 682 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: have been hanging out with for about three and a 683 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: half years now is also a scorpio. Hmmm, So I 684 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: don't know if I attract scorpios or just good dick, 685 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: but both have been true. 686 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 2: Well, that actually kind of brings up another topic. What 687 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 2: about like synchronicities. Do you read into things where you're 688 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 2: like that is more than a coincidence. 689 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: Like meaning like something happens right at the perfect time. Yeah. Yeah, 690 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: I always think to myself, Oh, God's a nice lady 691 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: for putting that in my way or for letting me 692 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: find that. Yeah. I like to believe that the universe 693 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: is on my side. Sometimes I talk to it like 694 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: I whenever I need something. I like wish on stars 695 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: and the moons, and I talk to like plants and bullshit, 696 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: because you know, we don't know if they can hear us, 697 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: and if they can't, at least you're putting positive energy 698 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: into the world. 699 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 2: I feel like that's beautiful. I think that's great. Do 700 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 2: you ever have deja vu? 701 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? I have gayja VU a lot where I think 702 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: like I'm in a situation or I've been on a 703 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: dick before, or like I usually am in a situation, 704 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: and then I think, you dreamt of this or you're 705 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: remembering this from like a past life or something. But 706 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: I don't know if I necessarily believe in reincarnation, just 707 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: because I haven't looked into it enough. But I do 708 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: want to like get hypnotized and find out if I was, like, 709 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: am I being punished? Like? Am I being punished? I 710 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: want to know if I'm being punished for something I 711 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: did before. 712 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: What about psychics? Have you been to them? 713 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: I've been to the same one twice and she is 714 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: a psychic that a couple of my aunts went to 715 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: and my mom, like when I was a kid, and 716 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: they told my mom and her sisters that their brother 717 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: was going to die, and he did, and they went 718 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,959 Speaker 1: back and then told them that like what she said 719 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: came true, they told her more stuff that would come true. 720 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: And when I was seventeen, they told me that they 721 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 1: saw a lot of cameras pointing at me and success 722 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: in my forties, And I was like, what, I'm seventeen, Really, 723 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: I gotta wait twenty fucking years. But they were right 724 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: about the cameras. How old are you forty one? About 725 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: to be forty two? 726 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's that time. One would hope, Hey, 727 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 2: you got nine years, it's just gonna blow up. 728 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, one could hope. 729 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 2: Where's that woman now? 730 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, probably still in Philly. 731 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 2: I think you should call her. 732 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't have a need to know about the future. 733 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: I do like hearing about the past and like knowing 734 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: what could be, but like, I don't feel like the 735 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: future is something that I can change. Really, if it's 736 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: already like predestined, I'd rather happenstance into it than like 737 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: know what's to be expected. Like I don't need to 738 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: know what I'm going to die. I don't need to know, oh, 739 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: you're going to be successful twenty years from now or 740 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: something like. I'll just you know, take it as it comes. 741 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 2: So do you think that it's all predestined? 742 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not smart enough to even think 743 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: that I could have an educated guess on it on 744 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: reality of how the universe or any of that works. 745 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: But I do think that, like my parents knew when 746 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: I was a kid, I was going to be gay, 747 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: like that was predestined because it's in my genes where 748 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: there signs. Yeah, my mom wrote in my baby book 749 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: that I was either going to be a ballerina or 750 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: gay because I walked on my toes. And she was right. Uh, 751 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: but I had a gay uncle and a gay aunt, 752 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: so I think she had a tip anyway. 753 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 2: So she so you're saying when you were a baby, 754 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 2: she was like, this baby's gay. 755 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was literally learning to walk, she told 756 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: my dad that I was going to be gay. So 757 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: I was like between I think one and two. But 758 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: she knew I had gay face as a baby too, 759 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: she was right. Do you think do you think everything's predetermined? 760 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 2: It kinda yeah. I mean, listen, I with any of 761 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 2: this kind of stuff, I think nobody knows any of 762 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 2: the answers. But if you just look at signs that 763 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: you interpret in your personal life or whatever, I'm just like, yeah, 764 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 2: I think it's all like a script. I think that 765 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 2: like the script is written and we're not supposed to 766 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 2: know what happens next. 767 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: Like the fates up in the sky clipping threads or something, 768 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: or telling stories. 769 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 2: I think, so, okay, I don't know, possible. Sometimes you 770 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,720 Speaker 2: get like these blips like that's what I think deja 771 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 2: vu is. 772 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: I've been in situations where I was certain my car 773 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: was going to crash or I was going to be 774 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: in an accident, and for some reason, I narrowly escaped 775 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: with my life. It's happened like two or three times, 776 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: and I swear that I felt my Grandma's presence with me. Really, 777 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: I just felt like she was with me. Where like 778 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: I remember pulling off to the side of the road 779 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: to catch my breath because I was so rattled, and 780 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 1: like I felt like there was someone in the car 781 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: with me. Maybe I'm crazy or whatever, but like I swore, 782 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: I swore there was like a ghost with me or 783 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: somebody guiding me. I don't know. 784 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 2: I've told this story before, but one time I was 785 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 2: driving two Palm Springs to host a drag brunt and 786 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the car in front of me 787 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 2: just completely just parked and we were all going like 788 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 2: eighty and so I had to like quickly like go 789 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 2: over to the next lane over and there was a 790 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 2: car coming right there, and like all of a sudden, 791 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 2: like the car just like got moved. Like I got 792 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 2: out of there so safe and easily and I was 793 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 2: like that just felt like like almost like a giant hand, yeah, 794 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 2: kind of moved the cars where they were supposed to. 795 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: Go that part. It's like that's happened to me twice. 796 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: And there was one time when I was hydroplaning down 797 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: a hill in Pennsylvania and I was going through an 798 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: intersection and like my car stopped somehow right before the 799 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: cars were crossing perpendicularly to my car where I was 800 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: sliding down like an ice iced out road, and I 801 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: knew in my head that I was going to be 802 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: in an accident. I was just hoping it wasn't going 803 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: to be bad. And there was no contact at all, 804 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: and I felt like something was pulling my car back 805 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: and it wasn't the brakes. Maybe it was adrenaline or 806 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: I was just trying to like rationalize something in my head, 807 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 1: but like I swore I was gonna die or get 808 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: very hurt, and I wasn't. What do you think of 809 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: big I think Bigfoot could be very real. I think 810 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: it could be like some like maybe some guy fucked 811 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: like a jackalope or something and then like whatever happened happened, 812 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: or I don't know, but I think it's real and 813 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: enough people have seen it, just like Locknex monster. Do 814 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: you know Wales used to have feet, like I feel 815 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: like Bigfoot is just some sort of unevolved like creature 816 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: that just didn't like metamorphosize into like a modern day animal. 817 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 2: Right, And every time people see it they freak out. 818 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 2: So it's like, Okay, then fuck you guys, I'm just 819 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,439 Speaker 2: gonna hide. 820 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. People suck sometimes because I feel 821 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: like that's a big part of these creatures is that 822 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: they have something about them that's like very shy, like 823 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: I don't want you guys to see me. It's not 824 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: anybody's business. 825 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is done of your business what I'm doing 826 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 2: in these woods. 827 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: And honestly, with a name like Bigfoot, like I wouldn't 828 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: want to be I wouldn't want to be cordial to 829 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: people that named me that. You know what, if we 830 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: go around calling Paris Hilton Bigfoot, she wouldn't. 831 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 2: Like that tours the same size as me forty three 832 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 2: eleven Yeah, yeah, big girl, Okay, last one hit me curses. 833 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: Ooh. You know what, some Italian women I've seen yell 834 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: and Philly and it's called them reloque. I think it's 835 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: like a curse that Italian ladies put on you with 836 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: like their fingers somehow. I believe that bad energy can 837 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: be sent somebody's way if it's concentrated enough, and the 838 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 1: person is fouled or wronged in such a severe way 839 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: that the debt or the repayment can cross realms and 840 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: wreck havoc on somebody. I think, ooh, so, yeah, I 841 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: believe in curses. 842 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 2: Interesting, what about you? Okay, well here's another one, because 843 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 2: going back to the story in Louisiana, Louisiana, do you 844 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 2: believe in like demons? 845 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe there's dark forces somehow somewhere around us. 846 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: I always try to stay in the light though, and 847 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: like not tempt that shit. Like I'm not going to 848 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: do a Luigi board, I'm going to do a seance. 849 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do any of that shit, because 850 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: like I'm not tempting fate. Like if they ain't bothering me, 851 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 1: I ain't bothering them. I'm not trying to open a 852 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: door that I don't know how to shut or I 853 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: don't have a key for, because I'm not that smart 854 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 1: enough to be even like navigating my own life, let 855 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: alone navigating another realm with ghosts and all these variables 856 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: that I know nothing about. I'm not trying to curse 857 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: my life, because I would be the dumb son of 858 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,240 Speaker 1: a bitch who ends up cursing himself just by playing 859 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: around with Luigi board, you know. Yeah, So I'm not 860 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: trying to I'm not trying to upset my apple cart. 861 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 2: That's why usually for me, I let them start some shit. 862 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 2: You know, Like when I'm going to these places, it's 863 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 2: because they become a problem and they need someone to 864 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,720 Speaker 2: like put them in their place or like figure something 865 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 2: out with it. I have a hard time sometimes just 866 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 2: going to a place, like just trying to conjure up 867 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 2: like what can we find here? And then these demons 868 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 2: are like, okay, we literally I was trying to sleep 869 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 2: and you just woke me up, and now I'm fucking 870 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 2: pissed off. 871 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to pissy demon. 872 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 2: Well will. I appreciate you taking the time. 873 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate you Roz for bringing all this to light, 874 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 1: because gay demons need representation. 875 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 2: Thank you. I've been saying this for years now, and 876 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 2: finally I feel seen. Where do you want people to 877 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 2: find you? 878 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: A murder house, hopefully a trap house, a waffle house, 879 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: anything with a house in it. I want house by 880 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: Delta work. There's so many places you could find me, 881 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: but the internet's probably the easiest one. You could just 882 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: look up Will Wilam and yeah, I'm on YouTube, Instagram, 883 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: never had a Snapchat. I have a TikTok, but I 884 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: don't use it. 885 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 2: Now I'm thinking about the fact that you you don't 886 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 2: think that your place on Cherokee is haunted. 887 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: You know what, You're more than welcome to come and 888 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 1: check it out. And you've been here, you filmed stuff here. 889 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 2: I feel like right with Jackiere's never filmed anything there, 890 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 2: but you've been here, right, never been invited. 891 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: Uh, it's an open door to anyone who's ever worn 892 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 1: a lash honey, So you're more than welcome anytime. But yeah, 893 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: I feel like it's from the twenties. I hear stuff 894 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 1: all the time, and usually I don't try to look 895 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: or investigate. Oh, I'm like, oh, a hanger broke and 896 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: the clothes just didn't fall, like you know how sometimes 897 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: like the top of a hanger breaks, but like it 898 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: doesn't fall because there's like cloths holding everything up like 899 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: as one. Like I've had hangers break and I'm like, 900 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: what the fuck was that? And then I figured it 901 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: out later, I'm like, oh, that must have been that 902 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,959 Speaker 1: sound that I heard that one time or whatever. I've 903 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 1: deduced that everything has a explanation. But I'm lying to myself, 904 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: just like every time I look in the mirror, lies lies, lies. 905 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 2: Wait, what is that meind you? Behind me is a 906 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 2: person that just disappeared? Oh? 907 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up? I hate you. 908 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you for doing this, Thanks for 909 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 2: having me on your pod, hon, Thank you so much 910 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 2: to Willem Hey. As always, please tell your friends about 911 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 2: the show. Let's spread the word around. 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