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Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand

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Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. It's uh rarely sick time. We're

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Speaker 2: in and we have virtually everybody in office and in

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Speaker 2: the media refusing to head on, refusing to take this

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Speaker 2: head on and end all the frightening criminal activity going on,

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Speaker 2: all these flash mob smash and grab situations that are

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Speaker 2: happening constantly. Now there was another one today. Wellatch of

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Speaker 2: this last night was reported today. A group of eleven

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Speaker 2: men robbed a luxury demon denim store on Librea Avenue.

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Speaker 2: Lapd says happened at almost seven o'clock at Kasubi. You

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Speaker 2: know this place, I do not ks Ubi Kasubi. Eleven

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Speaker 2: men wearing masks entered the store and began taking clothes.

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Speaker 2: There were two security guards, but they were unarmed. Oh

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Speaker 2: so they were ambassadors, weren't they. They tried to stop

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Speaker 2: the robbers, Stop robbers, stop, uh, but since they didn't

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Speaker 2: have guns, nobody paid attention. One of the men at

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Speaker 2: least pretended to have a handgun in his pocket as

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Speaker 2: a way to get the guards to stand down. Of course,

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Speaker 2: if the guards had pulled out a real handgun, he

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have gotten away with the fake one hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars stolen.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's a lot of jeans.

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Speaker 1: How do you steal one hundred thousand dollars worth of jeans?

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe each let's just say each pair of jeans

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Speaker 3: three hundred bucks armfuls. Maybe some jean jackets. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what other things would be in there?

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Speaker 1: Are these lined in gold?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't spend a lot of money on on jeans.

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Speaker 2: What store was this? Kasubi never heard of it on Librea.

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Speaker 2: One hundred thousand dollars simon. If you had eleven guys,

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Speaker 2: So they were stealing about ten thousand dollars a person,

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Speaker 2: that's a lot to carry around. They fled in two cars.

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Speaker 2: How do you fit all the clothing in two cars

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Speaker 2: with eleven bodies? A silver Lexus and a ten BMW.

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Speaker 2: They went off in opposite direction. Some of the clothing

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Speaker 2: was found in the alley behind the store later. So

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Speaker 2: that that's four of these just in the last week

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Speaker 3: And it's not going to stop, no.

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Speaker 2: Because nobody, nobody's even getting getting arrested here. And still

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Speaker 2: I can't get anybody to answer. Nobody in The media

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Speaker 2: seems to be interested in the question whatever happened to

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Speaker 2: the guys that they arrested from November December twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: I remember all the year.

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Speaker 2: All the stories that got flash mob then jewelry stores

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Speaker 2: in Beverly Hills, and I remember that they had some

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Speaker 2: press conference and they announced that these guys had been arrested.

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Speaker 2: But did guests go and let them go? Where are

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Speaker 2: they now? Or it's just the same crowd who's hiring

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Speaker 2: these guys? You talk about organized crime, There has to

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Speaker 2: be a whole infrastructure to hire these guys. To buy

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Speaker 2: the cars. These are luxury cars, new ones. I guess

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Speaker 2: they have paper license plates, so they're making a lot

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Speaker 1: This is what I'm starting.

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Speaker 2: I'm starting to wonder, guys, I've talked to a couple

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Speaker 2: of people, or I'm aware of a couple of people

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Speaker 2: who would be connected. I don't want to say who

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Speaker 2: they are, but the impression they gave was there's a

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Speaker 2: lot going on that nobody wants to talk about. That's

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Speaker 2: the only way I could put it. They seem to

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Speaker 2: indicate that there's a lot going on behind the scenes

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Speaker 2: and nobody wants to talk about it. Publicly, Well, what

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Speaker 2: is that? What kind of force is hiring these guys

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Speaker 2: buying the cars setting up. Then they've got to sell

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Speaker 2: all the clothing and this is going on every day.

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Speaker 2: They're getting supplied with new material and when Gascon gets

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Speaker 2: questioned about it yesterday he acted like a little toddler

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Speaker 2: with a hissy fit. He can't be questioned. But he

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Speaker 2: is the central part of this disaster. This wasn't going on,

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Speaker 2: you know, three years ago before he showed up and

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Speaker 2: dismantled the legal system.

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Speaker 3: What do people do do They they put ads on

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Speaker 3: Craig's list, Hey, come meet up at this place, and

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Speaker 3: then they have fifty different people and they say, okay,

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Speaker 3: you guys, you're going to go and rob the Westfield

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's got to be something like that.

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Speaker 2: It's some kind of mass text maybe they have a

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Speaker 2: text chain, and they say this is the time, this

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Speaker 2: is the place, this is what you're going to steal,

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Speaker 2: this is where you're going to return the clothes.

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Speaker 3: And the expensive cars. Is it to throw people off?

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Speaker 3: Because when you see expensive cars driving up to some

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Speaker 3: thing with burglaries in neighborhoods. A lot of these crooks

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Speaker 3: you know, a high end car. That's not the case.

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Speaker 2: This can't be that hard to unravel. I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Has everybody lost their ability to crack a case like this.

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Speaker 2: This is pretty simple robbery. Everything's on videos area. They

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Speaker 2: must have videos of all the streets around. Let's say

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Speaker 2: that Northstrom's right right right, so you could see the

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Speaker 3: But who's paying attention? And how do you find thirty

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Speaker 1: How do you not notice a crowd like that gathering together?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do they all come well don't they all just

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Speaker 3: come in at once? And you were probably so shocked.

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Speaker 3: And then that poor security guard who was sprayed with

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Speaker 2: The shopping centers need their own police departments patrolling all

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Speaker 2: the major entrances, especially around the luxury stores. I can't

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Speaker 2: believe they don't or do they not care, and they're

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Speaker 2: just writing it off on their insurance. They're gonna lose

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Speaker 2: a lot of business. Most people, I know, everyone's talking

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Speaker 3: And people who do, they're not wearing their jewelry. They're

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Speaker 3: not they're not wearing their handbags. They're going in. I'm serious,

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Speaker 3: they're going in looking, you know, just kind of schleppy

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Speaker 2: We're gonna keep covering it because there's a story behind

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Speaker 2: the story. Somewhere after well after the news, we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk with Lawanda Hawkins. She's with a group called

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Speaker 2: Justice for Murdered Children. Crime Stoppers is another group, and

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Speaker 2: there's a third group called Justice for Homicide Victims, and

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Speaker 2: they're trying to get attention for unsolved crimes because they

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Speaker 2: you know, in this day, everybody in office and everybody

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Speaker 2: in the media cares about the criminals. But here Lwanda Hawkins.

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Speaker 2: Her son was murdered in December of nineteen ninety five

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Speaker 2: and they never solved the case. We'll talk to her

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Speaker 2: about this coming up on the Johnny Ken Show.

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Speaker 2: Forty on the radio from one until four at four o'clock.

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Speaker 2: A lot of good stuff today, so listen to what

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Speaker 2: you missed on the iHeart app. John and Canon demands

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Speaker 2: the name of it we're gonna talk about with Alanda Hawkins.

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Speaker 2: There's three nonprofit groups who are trying to get some

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Speaker 2: attention to all the unsolved homicides in the Los Angeles area.

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Speaker 2: They're called Justice for Murdered Children, Justice for Homicide Victims, Crimestop,

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Speaker 2: and they're all about the.

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Speaker 1: Fifty I was shocked when I saw this.

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Speaker 2: Do you know this? Fifty thousand unsolved murders since nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty that's impossible to believe. And fifty thousand and unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: Lawanda Hawkins son is one of those murders. He was

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Speaker 2: shot to death in December of nineteen ninety five. His

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Speaker 2: age of nineteen, multiple gunshot wounds. And she's been trying

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Speaker 2: these thousands of other people, families survivors of these terrible

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Speaker 2: murders that are still on the books. Let's get to

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Speaker 2: Lawanda Hawkins on Lawanda.

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Speaker 4: To noon, Hi, how are you find yourself? And thanks

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Speaker 4: a million for having me on.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to have you on because I was just

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Speaker 2: surprised that this many murders have got unsolved. And you're

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Speaker 2: these organizations that you're connected with have a campaign. Maybe

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Speaker 2: you can describe the campaign to try to get people's attention,

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Speaker 2: people who might know what happened in various cases.

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Speaker 1: Can he talk about that?

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Speaker 4: Yes, most definitely, First and foremost, we were like to say,

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Speaker 4: clear channel outdoor for assisting us in this campaign. With

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Speaker 4: this partnership, we're trying to bring awareness to these unsolved homocides.

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Speaker 4: Like you indicated, fifty thousand, that's too many, especially when

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Speaker 4: we don't hear anyone even indicating even talking about unsolved.

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Speaker 4: We don't have a database for these unsolved in La County.

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Speaker 4: Nothing's been to, no public service announcements being put on

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Speaker 4: or anything. And so we got together. When I say

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Speaker 4: we justice for homicide victims and crime stoppers and justice

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Speaker 4: for murdered children, we all got together and we thought

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Speaker 4: to put up these deal boards but before we even

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Speaker 4: did that, when we first got started in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 4: five Justice for Murdered Children, we used to go get

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Speaker 4: garbage boxes out the alley and I used to take

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Speaker 4: open those garbage boxes and take our kids' pictures and

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Speaker 4: take it to this box. And we will be standing

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Speaker 4: on Crenshaw and Martin Luther King with these boxes telling

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Speaker 4: went wrong. This is the nineteen ninety five, ninety six,

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Speaker 4: ninety seven, This is when we have like twelve hundred

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Speaker 4: them on billboards, that's huge. From garbage boxes out of

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Speaker 4: it takes a little bit more. We got to get

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Speaker 4: the community involved with these unsolved, because the community knows

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Speaker 4: who commit these murders. And we got to change this

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Speaker 4: culture that doesn't permit the community to tell that tells

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Speaker 4: the community called derogatory names to people who stand up

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Speaker 4: in the community, who stand up and say he might

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Speaker 4: have a gun or Sarah might have a knife. They're

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Speaker 4: not looked at as positive roles, which we need to

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Speaker 4: look at them and yeah, a little bit better looks

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Speaker 4: like them, not in this negative way.

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Speaker 2: It is fear of retribution the top reason why people

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Speaker 2: don't tell what they know regarding these murders.

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Speaker 4: That's one of them. It's just not one thing, it's

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Speaker 4: quite a few things. We have a problem with people

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Speaker 4: being prosecuted here. If you tell and then a person

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Speaker 4: is released the next day or the same day, that

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Speaker 4: you don't point it out in a murder, that takes

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Speaker 4: it a little difficult. We have to be after we

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Speaker 4: arrest people. We have to have a system in place

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Speaker 4: that prosecute these people that commit this type of crime

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Speaker 4: called murder. Well, we have noticed over the last few

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Speaker 4: years they've been light on this crime called murder. People

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Speaker 4: are getting a smack on the hand and getting an

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Speaker 4: ankle bracelet for committing a murder.

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Speaker 2: I would guess you're not a big fan of George

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Speaker 2: Gascon's policies last few years.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not saying nothing bad about anyone, but I

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Speaker 4: am saying in the last few years what has happened

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Speaker 4: has created the serious problems in black and brown communities

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Speaker 4: when it comes to crime. With people not being prosecuted

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Speaker 4: for serious crimes, it has created a problem where they

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Speaker 4: say homicide has gone down, but when you talk to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's still too much of it. You know,

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Speaker 4: No unsolved database. No one's dealing with unsolved. It just

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Speaker 2: When a murder happens, for how long do the police

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Speaker 2: like what's the window that a family has?

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Speaker 4: Really don't look, I really don't know. We understand that

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Speaker 4: They come in afterwards. So the people who are there

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Speaker 2: What do you want people to do? People listening, what

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, get behind our billboard campaign. Tell

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Speaker 4: They will not get behind it. I thank god for

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Speaker 4: because without them, we don't have no one. These elected

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Speaker 2: You have a website that people can go to and

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Speaker 4: Sure, our website has stalled Justice for Murder Children dot com,

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Speaker 4: or you can go to Justice for Homicide Victims Crime

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Speaker 4: to put up more billboards. We want more public service announcements.

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Speaker 4: a database for these murders. The murderers travel because I

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know, I agree with what you said.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a much smaller number of killers who

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Speaker 2: Murder Children dot Com. All right, Lawanda Hawkins, thanks for

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Speaker 4: Thank you all right, more.

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Speaker 1: It's a great place. Ah, you have you've consumed there? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Where where you remember? Where is it? Where is it

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Speaker 2: Well, he's a he's a good guy and he's he's

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Speaker 2: of this crime. Way if Miguel Rojas the shortstop after

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Speaker 5: Conway's here, by the way, we had a guy at

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Speaker 5: He gets knocked off. But the death toll rise is

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Speaker 2: That's the Hawaiian government. No good, really, no good. All right,

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