1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh and 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: there's Chuck and it's just us. But that's okay because 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: we know Dave's here in spirit watching over us like 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: this Obi wan kenobiesque type dude who uh just kind 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: of gently guides us in the directions he wants us 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: to go without us realizing that making us think that 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: we have free will, but it ultimately just being an illusion. 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: And this is the story of the Beast of Jevaudon. 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: That was a great Who was that? Oh, Mello leghostie. 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: We just walked through my basement and uh put a 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: little uh sleeping stuff on a napkin, put it in 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: my face and I woke up And now I'm recording? 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: Was it? Jeff Bridges? And you're Sander Bullock? What have 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: you ever seen the Vanishing? Was she in that? I 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: saw the original version? I didn't see that. They were 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: both very good on their own on their own for sure. 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: One of those rare one is where the adaptation is 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: as good as the original. Foreign Yeah, uh, Halloween in 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: August July, jeez, yeah, it will be on July, I think, 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 1: but yes, absolutely, we are talking about a horror show. 21 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: Horror movie horror deal and eight, and the fact that 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: it happened in the eighteenth century makes it even creepier. 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: You can, in exactly the same way that the legend 24 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: of Sleepy Hollow is still creepy and scary to this 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: day because it takes place in eighteenth century upstate New York. 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: This is creepy also in the exact same way. Right 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: seventeen sixties. Uh, we're talking about the South of France, 28 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: but not like, you know, the lovely seaside of the 29 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: South of France. This sounds like it's a little bit 30 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: more of a small town of Zebudin, and there is 31 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: some a lot of killing going on, and no one 32 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: knows what's doing the killing, but they know it's terrible. 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: Bodies are ripped to shreds, heads are missing, throats are 34 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: ripped out, and I think about a hundred people, give 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: or take, because you know this is also legend, were killed, 36 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: but it really did happen, and people were freaked out, 37 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: and we're like, there's a monster in these darwoods. Um. Yeah, 38 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: And they were understandably freaked out because those deaths were really, 39 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: really grizzly and gruesome. And I mean, if this is 40 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: a fairly sparsely populated area use a hundred people over 41 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: three years, and some of them are having their heads 42 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: pulled off and their entrails pulled out, like it definitely is, 43 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: and it definitely did. And they they documented the first 44 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: death and I believe June of seventeen sixty four, and 45 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: it was a fourteen year old girl named Jean Boulet 46 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: and she was just basically being like um little bo peep, 47 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: tending to her livestock, her family's live stock out in 48 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: the hills, and she was attacked and torn apart, and 49 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: she was the first fatality, but apparently she was the 50 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: second victim. And just a little before that, another um 51 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: young sheepherder was tending to their flock and um was attacked, 52 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: but their sheep banded together and chased off this beast 53 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: of jevou Dan and saved their life, that's right. And 54 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: so more attacks are following. M dozens of people are dying. 55 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: There's some women, mostly kids, a few lone dudes here 56 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: and there, and you know, described as a dog like 57 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: a wolf like creature, as big as a horse though, 58 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: and you know they really this was the time, this 59 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: is the seventeen sixties that they're they're talking real monsters here. 60 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: They're not saying, like, you know, it was probably a wolf, 61 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: They're saying that it was some beasts that they've really 62 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: never witnessed before. Yeah, I mean, there was a pretty 63 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: decent amount of superstition among the people who lived there, 64 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: I would guess too. But then also again, the fact 65 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: that people are being torn to shreds and it's so 66 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: happening so frequently, and their children are being killed too, Like, 67 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: you can kind of understand how they would attribute this 68 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: to a monster pretty much out of the gate. That's right, 69 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: But we're gonna take a break. We almost certainly know 70 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: what this beast was now, and we're gonna take a 71 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: break and reveal it right after this, So Chuck. One 72 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: of the things I saw about this was that this 73 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: is considered one of the first international media stories that 74 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: UM it was reported on by Evan yon Um newspaper, 75 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: and that those reports made their way to the Paris 76 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: newspapers and then from there they spread to the rest 77 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: of the world, and that it was being um written 78 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: about and covered all over the world from Europe over 79 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: all the way to Boston. From what I saw, and 80 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: that this was really the first time, and that part 81 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: of that media attention and media frenzy um really kind 82 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: of helped pump the story up into really huge proportions 83 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: for a little while. Yeah. So there's a book written 84 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: by a man named J. M. Smith, Historian, and it's 85 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: called and this one really annoys me because it's such 86 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: a great title. Did not need this colon. It should 87 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: just be called Monsters of the Jevudin full stop, but 88 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: it's called Monsters of the Vudin colon the Making of 89 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: a Beast. I don't know why that colon annoys more 90 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: than others. It's better, it's a better follow up subtitle. 91 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: And you know, let's have sandwich or something. At least 92 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: it's pertain into the to the main title. You you 93 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: were always seconds away from saying let's have a sandwich. 94 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm I'm a walking colon leading to 95 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: that you and Joey Triviani. Oh did he like sandwiches? 96 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: That was always the favorite joke. What's uh on friends? 97 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: What's his favorite food? Sandwiches? Uh? So yeah, this Uh 98 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: these days, basically everyone agrees that it was a wolf um. 99 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: Back then, apparently, this author argues there were certain social 100 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: factors at play. Where France was was not in the 101 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: best way as a country as a nation after the 102 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: war that they had, which war was that Seven Years War. Yeah, 103 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: the Seven Years War that they had fought, and um, 104 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 1: they sort of rallied around this story and came together 105 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: a little bit and this monster, but it was it 106 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: was a wolf. It was like you know, um, just 107 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: to give an example, like let's say your your your 108 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: country face the pandemic, how it would like bring everybody 109 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: together to kind of like defeat that that pandemic and 110 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: then everyone better off afterward. On the other side, this 111 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: is exactly what happened with the Beast of j Budin. 112 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: It brought France together. Uh, and it really brought a 113 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: lot of um France together in that like King Louis 114 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: the fifteenth got involved, started sending troops. There was a 115 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: hundred livre tour noir, which is a type of currency 116 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: French currency bounty and I did the calculations, that's twelve 117 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: ms of silver. That's a lot of silver reward. It 118 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: was I saw somewhere else that it was basically like 119 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: a year's wages for the average person in France at 120 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: the time. So it was a substantial reward, and there 121 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: were a lot of people looking for this wolf or 122 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: this monster, this beast. It was very much like Jaws um. 123 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: But the fact that they couldn't find it, and they 124 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: actually did find one wolf and kill it and stuff 125 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: it and send it off to Versailles Um and the 126 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: killing still continued, it made this this, this this problem 127 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: take on those really kind of supernatural proportions even more so. 128 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: Are you saying that the one they killed in June 129 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: of seventeen sixty seven was not? In fact the world 130 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: know this. This was a different wolf that was killed 131 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: before seen sixties And I think everybody believes that in 132 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: June of seventeen sixty seven, John chestel Um did kill whatever. 133 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: If it wasn't dull one, it was the last of 134 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: the ones that had been doing this. Well, this is 135 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: just like Jaws then, because in Jaws they had the 136 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: red herring shark that they killed and they they wanted 137 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: to cut it open, and the mayor said, I'm not 138 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: gonna let you cut that thing open in front of 139 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: everyone and let that child spill out of its guts. 140 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: And Richard Dreyfas said that there's no way that's the 141 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: shark because that the shark we're looking for has teeth 142 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: the size of a shot glass. It's one of my 143 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: favorite lines. That's a great it is a great line. 144 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: But then sakon and cut it up in the middle 145 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: of the night and it's not the shark and this 146 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: was not the wolf. I wonder though, like how much 147 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: Spielberg kind of took from this true life story to 148 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: add to Joe's because they're now that you're pointing it out, 149 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of similarities between the two. Like there 150 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: there were there were human remains. Oh yeah, it was 151 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: um Richard Belcherley, Yeah, yeah, what is going on? I 152 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: don't know, but um, they did find human remains in 153 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: these wolves that were killed, so there was there was. 154 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: It really supports this idea that it was a group 155 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: of wolves that were killing people and that even at 156 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: the time, even in this place, this little area was 157 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: overrun by wolves. There was a huge wolf problem, and 158 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: that's really what was the basis of all this this 159 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: these attacks. Right, they did not find the Louisiana license plate. 160 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: Sportsman's Paradise will be my last draws reference. That was 161 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: a that's a trivia question, right, there will be like, 162 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: oh yeah, um. But like we said, in seventeen sixty seven, 163 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: they did a man named Jean Cash Schastel. I guess 164 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: killed what who Everyone kind of agrees was the wolf 165 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: because the killing stopped after that, and you know, there 166 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: was still debate on whether or not it could have 167 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: been something else. I think wolf experts say, you know what, 168 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: back then, wolves would attack people much more than they 169 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: do now. Uh. And in the heat of the moment 170 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: with adrenaline going on, wolves can be really puffy at 171 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: certain times. They with their coats, they have really big 172 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: bones and long limbs that could people could easily exaggerate. 173 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: The size of this thing is maybe the size of 174 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: a horse. Yeah, because you know, over the years, there 175 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: were a lot of things that were attributed to this. 176 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: There was a hyena don, which was a prehistoric giant 177 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: hyena jack old type dog that would have just torn 178 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: you to shreds, probably not called dire wolf, same situation 179 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: that was long extinct. There was the idea that it 180 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: was actually human, a serial killer um who was actually 181 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: on the prowl, but probably not it because they were 182 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: just so prolific. If that was the case that a 183 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: human probably could not have carried out all these killings. 184 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: And then there was also the idea that a human 185 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: was involved, but that they were acting as a wolf 186 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: whisperer directing the wolves to kill like this. But then 187 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: people said, now it's it was probably just a lot 188 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: of wolves. There are a lot of wolves there, and 189 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: people were leaving their little kids out to tend livestock, 190 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: which you just don't see anymore, and there's far fewer wolves, 191 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: so that's all. It was just statistics coming back and 192 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: tearing people the shreds and a wolf being a wolf. Uh, 193 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: this would make for a good movie that I think. 194 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: The setting and everything, yeah, lends itself to to something 195 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: that could be kind of cool. Yeah. And one other 196 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: thing that's kind of cool about this is there were survivors, 197 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: um who were attacked, and some of them were like 198 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: little kids who fended off wolves. One girl did. She 199 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: had a bayonet attached to us staff and used it 200 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: to stab the wolf and uh, it's a beast of 201 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: je vou dan and um. Some some lived to tell 202 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: the tale, which is pretty cool. Wow. Yeah, definitely movie, 203 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: let's do it. Movie material. Chuck, Um, you got anything else? No, okay, 204 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: well then we'll see you later. 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