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Speaker 1: Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: And how the tech are you. It's time for the

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Speaker 1: tech news for February twenty second, twenty twenty two, otherwise

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Speaker 1: known as the date where you just start hitting the

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Speaker 1: number two until it's March. Let's get to it. So,

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Speaker 1: back during the Trump administration here in the United States,

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Speaker 1: we saw the US government pressure the social network platform

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Speaker 1: TikTok to sever ties with its Chinese parent company byte Dance,

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Speaker 1: citing a concern that TikTok could be siphoning personal data

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Speaker 1: from US citizens and sending that information back to China.

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Speaker 1: Claimed that TikTok refuted at the time, and there were

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Speaker 1: a lot of other issues that were tied up with

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Speaker 1: this as well. It was just that it was this

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Speaker 1: larger trade war between the US and China. But it

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Speaker 1: turns out that a pair of studies kind of justifies

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Speaker 1: those data concerns. A group of cybersecurity experts conducted studies

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Speaker 1: that we're looking into TikTok's data collection practices and concluded

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Speaker 1: that TikTok has been allowing byte Dance to have full

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Speaker 1: access to user data on the platform. The security experts

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Speaker 1: sent their findings to the news website The Rap and

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Speaker 1: The Wrap then did a very responsible thing from journalism standpoint,

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Speaker 1: They sought out other experts to independently confirm the findings,

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Speaker 1: which they did. TikTok, as of this recording, has not

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Speaker 1: yet responded to those reports. Further, the research suggests that

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Speaker 1: TikTok engineers have found a way to sidestep code audits

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Speaker 1: by both Google and Apple, which could also mean that

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Speaker 1: TikTok could potentially change the code without folks really knowing

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Speaker 1: about it, which brings up all sorts of issue is

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Speaker 1: and it suggests that TikTok has found some loopholes that's

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Speaker 1: exploiting while other platforms like say Facebook, continued to be

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Speaker 1: buffeted by recent changes to IOSS privacy and data tracking settings.

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Speaker 1: You might remember that was a big part of why Meta,

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Speaker 1: the parent company to Facebook, had such a rough year

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Speaker 1: last year. They lost out on an estimated ten billion

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Speaker 1: dollars in revenue because Apple changed it's it's data tracking

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Speaker 1: privacy settings. Now, according to those security experts, the TikTok

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Speaker 1: application can even query things on whatever devices installed on

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Speaker 1: so kind of similar to the data tracking issue, where

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Speaker 1: it's not just tracking your activity within the the app itself,

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Speaker 1: So essentially TikTok has been able to do what Facebook

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Speaker 1: used to do but no longer can do, at least

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Speaker 1: if you opt out. My guess is that China isn't

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Speaker 1: so much spying on individual US citizens to build out

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Speaker 1: you know, dossiers on everyone, but they're rather you know,

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Speaker 1: selling that data to third parties that could use the

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Speaker 1: information for all sorts of stuff, you know, advertising being

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Speaker 1: the obvious one, but not necessarily the only one. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see if Google and Apple respond

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Speaker 1: to this or how or if TikTok will now. Let's

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Speaker 1: flip over to Instagram, where the app has quietly made

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Speaker 1: changes to a feature that allows users to set a

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Speaker 1: daily time limit for their use of Instagram. So previously

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Speaker 1: you could go into your settings and set it your

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Speaker 1: and that would make it easier to be aware of

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Speaker 1: is an opt in feature, so it's not like it's

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Speaker 1: on by default, but it was there. But now that

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Speaker 1: had that earnings call that revealed some pretty rough news

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Speaker 1: to investors. Besides that ten billion dollars in lost revenue

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Speaker 1: But anyway, the former iron grip that Facebook and Instagram

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Speaker 1: So perhaps one way the company is trying to address

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Speaker 1: this is to loosen the restrictions a little bit for

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Speaker 1: that daily time limit option, saying, hey, you know, thirty

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Speaker 1: minutes isn't all that bad. That should probably be your

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Speaker 1: Pro Publica and The New York Times investigated hundreds of

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Speaker 1: much what you'd expect when you hear the word propaganda.

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Speaker 1: It was trying to present an overly positive portrayal of

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Speaker 1: there are many. Twitter reps said that the platform banned

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Speaker 1: those accounts because they were violating the company's policy against

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Speaker 1: platform manipulation. So essentially the issue here was that these

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Speaker 1: a specific positive way. And you might be familiar with

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Speaker 1: the term sock puppet account so way back in the

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Speaker 1: It's possible that they make the sock puppet, which is

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Speaker 1: Or sometimes the stock puppet stood in as an easily

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