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Speaker 1: I listened to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: Love is or it ain't thin, Love, ain't love at all.

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Speaker 2: Rest in peace, Tony Morrison. Hey, welcome to another episode

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Speaker 2: of the Black Out Tips podcast with your host Rod

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Speaker 2: and Karen, and we're live on a Tuesday, ready to

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Speaker 2: and the unofficial sport and bullet ball stream. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: as you guys heard up front, man, I guess the

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Speaker 2: big news of the day of rest in peace to

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Speaker 2: Tony Morrison. She passed away today at the age of

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Speaker 2: eighty eight. Many people know her as an author, her

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Speaker 2: black feminist, scholar, outspoken race woman in America, and of

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Speaker 2: course the world is worse for her past. And I actually,

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Speaker 2: you know, feel bad that she had to pass under

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Speaker 2: like while Trump is in office, you know, like it's

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Speaker 2: just so sad. But she also left behind a great

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Speaker 2: legacy and inspiration. And you know, while it's always sad

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Speaker 2: to see people pass, and I mean that, you know,

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Speaker 2: even at eighty eight or whatever, it was cool to

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Speaker 2: see people on social media share like her inspiration for

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Speaker 2: them and different quotes from her.

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Speaker 3: I've been doing this thing where I've been starting a day.

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Speaker 2: With quotes from different like black people, motivational and quotes

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Speaker 2: on life and all this type of stuff. So it

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Speaker 2: was just ironic that today was the day that I

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Speaker 2: was gonna use her quote. And it was like, damn,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, rest in peace, you know. So I know

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Speaker 2: for those who don't if you don't read, if you

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Speaker 2: may have seen the movie Beloved, that's her. So she uh,

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Speaker 2: she wrote the book that that's put that that's based on.

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Speaker 2: So all right, let's get into other news. I hate

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Speaker 2: to start on a down note like that, but you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and I know, for for me, before

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Speaker 1: I said this, y'all, don't take my black card.

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Speaker 1: I need to go read some of her stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I know, for a lot of black people, she shaped

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Speaker 4: Like I've heard of her and I know who she is.

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Speaker 1: But as far as like digging and diving into her work,

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Speaker 2: the account, so I can buy some books if they're

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Speaker 2: not already on there, okay, if you're really serious about

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people go, how dare you?

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Speaker 2: But nah? But you know what, one, that's what I

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Speaker 3: Okay, somebody's not as woke as you. I guarantee you.

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Speaker 2: I haven't read all her shit anyway, you know, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the more the more well I know,

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Speaker 2: because that fucks up the narrative. A white dude trying

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Speaker 2: the charts is gonna come get Little nas X or something,

433
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 2: you know, a Cardi B or somebody Beyonce, somebody we love,

434
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 2: and then motherfucker's gonna be like, you know, making the

435
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 2: racial argument of the white man. It is not a

436
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: racial argument. This sounds like it should be judged by

437
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 2: jury of its peers. And by peers, I mean music professionals.

438
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 2: They should have like a board or.

439
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 3: Something they take this to.

440
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,959
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be a uh, you know, just the general

441
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: person in public talking about this sounds alike like that.

442
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 2: That seems like a terrible way to just do these judgments, right,

443
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: because we don't make music. Yeah, it seemed like a

444
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: bad way to make these judgments. It seemed like they

445
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 2: should have a border some especially when the cases aren't

446
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 2: that common yet, right, you know, I don't know, it

447
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: seemed like a weird loophole. Oh, let's see what those happening, guys.

448
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: A Japanese park encourages kids to play with saws, light

449
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 2: bonfires for learning experiences and the loose limbs.

450
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,239
Speaker 4: Look at what is happening here.

451
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the ultimate light. Well, go ahead and

452
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 2: do it. Then you know, like you know you're about

453
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 2: to do something with your kid and be like, oh

454
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: you want to throw the ball? Go ahead, throw the

455
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 2: ball the street. See what happened?

456
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: You signed waivers right saying that if my child dies,

457
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: they not irresponsible.

458
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 3: I would guess.

459
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 2: I don't know.

460
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 4: I'm assuming that we're signing the waivers.

461
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 2: You can see in the picture.

462
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 3: Is it shown up?

463
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 4: Yes, it is.

464
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 2: It's a little boy playing with some tool at the park.

465
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: His mom's next to him with a knife, and.

466
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 1: It ain't nobody there like coaching that child through that process.

467
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: They're chopping the branch. He has a helmet on, so

468
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: you know it's safe. Got to do with it, you

469
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: might get hurt. Signed at the entest of Tokyo play

470
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: Spot of a Tokyo play spot tells children some parks

471
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 2: in Japan are pretty stick strict about what visitors can

472
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: and can't do. For example, somehow signs prohibiting kids from

473
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: playing catch soccer a while others even go as far

474
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: as the band practicing comedy routines, what how what kind

475
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: of kid is showing up to that. Yeah boy, well boy,

476
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,719
Speaker 2: let me tell you about fourth grade. Oh man, oh,

477
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 2: we got some beautiful ladies in the house to not

478
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 2: go ahead, give it up for yourselves at the saying box,

479
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 2: go ahead, go ahead?

480
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 3: Uh man.

481
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 4: Oh, I see y'all looking sexy over there to swing set.

482
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 4: What is happening here?

483
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: I'll see a lot was in the building. Oh man,

484
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: I see a lot of people hold their hands. I

485
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: want you ain't gonna get them cooties out of you?

486
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: Oh old cooties, which all know about cooties? Okay, I

487
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: just to date a girl. Cooties? What you do for

488
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: a living? Eat glue? All right? Yeah?

489
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 4: Sniff boxers right.

490
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: Handige Pale Park, though it's different, very very different. A

491
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: substation of Handigee Park is Tokyo's uh I'm sorry. In

492
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 2: Tokyo's set Tagaya Award. At the center of Hannige Play Park,

493
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 2: you'll find the building scene above what children kids can get.

494
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: Kids can get.

495
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: All sorts of play play equipment. You might also find

496
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: a notice to kids on the roof, but you won't

497
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 2: notice though. Wait, you might also notice kids on the roof.

498
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: Oh not a notice to the kids. They let kids

499
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: be on the roof. Okay, okay, Wow.

500
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: There gotta be a waiver that you you there's a

501
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: piece of paper that said we are not responsible for

502
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: death mutilation. We are not responsible for if you come

503
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: in here and some shit happened to you, it is

504
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: all on you.

505
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: You're really worried about the waiver element of this.

506
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 4: But because some kids gonna get sucked up.

507
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: M h You worry about getting illegal?

508
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, because people are dumb enough to let their kids

509
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: go in there. Yes, sign a waiver for them.

510
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: Parents, the i's and te's on Hurricane. That's that's the

511
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 2: real issue is bottom line. It's just about that capitalism.

512
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: The place shouldn't exist in the first place.

513
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: Wow. But yeah, you notice the kids on the roof,

514
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: but you won't notice those conventional stairway ladder that leads

515
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: to the roof for any sort of safety around it.

516
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: So kids do stuff like climb trees to get on

517
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: the roof and climb the sider it and it's very

518
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: wooden and it looks like you would get swooterlings and shit.

519
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 2: That's because headed play Parkers, Morgan Tinner. We're letting kids

520
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 2: play freely. They keeping them one hundred percent safe. At

521
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: all times. This philosophy also manifests itself and some of

522
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: the play items off of the kids, like actual rapping saws, nails,

523
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 2: and hammers.

524
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: Oh wow, you not so well, go to child labor.

525
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 4: What the fuck is this?

526
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: Oh god? Oh my god? Oh and playing with fire

527
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: is okay too. In addition to just for what. In

528
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: addition to just for fun bonfires, kids can also have

529
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: open air cookouts, and there are also golden plots where

530
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: rice is grown. Look at this far, just in the

531
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: middle of this shit.

532
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 4: No protection around and nothing.

533
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: Wow, these kids are gonna be so selfn there's a

534
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: furnace for the kids. You'll need a good knife for

535
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 2: most of the types of cooking, but don't worry. Handecke

536
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: Playpark sometimes had knife sharpening lessons. A lot of the

537
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: wooden slides and other play equipment has a handmade look

538
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 2: to it. Because of his handmade you'll frequently see kids

539
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: themselves hammering together wooden boards, making force or other simpler structures.

540
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: What, oh my god, look at this picture.

541
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: She jumping off the top of what it looks like

542
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: a porter potty onto like a wooden scaffolding that's just

543
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: powered together wound.

544
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 4: Many children have died.

545
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: What is this what you're do when you hate your

546
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: kids out?

547
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 4: This will never happened in the States.

548
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: Isn't this danger? She might be asking, and the park

549
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: it's self acknowledges that it is. Sort of, we spoke

550
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: the two volunteers of sort of, we spoke the two volunteers.

551
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 2: Hannekee Play Park also has paid staff mothers who frequented

552
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: the arc when their own children were younger, and they

553
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 2: told us, of course sometimes the kids get small injuries,

554
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: but that usually is a learning experience for them. We

555
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: want people who know, oh the purpose of letting kids

556
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: play to visit our park, and we all know the

557
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: purposes for kids to get hurt. Commumitative signs probably list

558
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: the parks monthly nail hammering champions. Oh god, wow, what's

559
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: the age range? See how many nails you can hammer

560
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: over here? Here's a hammer, here's some nails, here's some tennis.

561
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: That's for the safety. The volunteers told us that at

562
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: the time of the parks founding forty years ago, there

563
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: was a resistance from the local authorities, but after.

564
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: Extended meetings with the fire department.

565
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: And explaining the setup of the park, was planning for

566
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: cooking and bonfire spaces. That plan was approved. Still it

567
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: can be a little jarring to walk through at when

568
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: at first seems like a totally ordinary neighborhood park, only

569
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: suddenly come across kids welding saws, building fires, scaling buildings.

570
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: So to make sure no one thinks they stumbled towards

571
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: suburban Tokyo version of the Lord of the Flu, there

572
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: are prominent scigence suppostas at the edges of Hannig Play Park.

573
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: Oh so, y'all didn't have signs. So people just wondering,

574
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: going to fuck is.

575
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: This whether they're at the edge of them the play

576
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: park their kids. This is Handigy play Park, a place

577
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: for you to play. We think you'll have fun lighting bonfires,

578
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: digging holes, making forks, splashing water, staring into space, playing

579
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: or just watching.

580
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 4: Everyone else somebody don't like their kids.

581
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: Let's try doing the things we want to try doing.

582
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: That looks fun, that looks scary. I wonder if I

583
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: can do that? What's on second thought? Maybe not. It's

584
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: all up to you. If you do something well, that's great.

585
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: If you don't do it well, then you've learned something new.

586
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: You might run into problems, get confused or even get hurt.

587
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: But people from the neighborhood, men and women, moms and dads,

588
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: boys and girls are here, and so are play workers,

589
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 2: staff members. This is a play place that everyone creates together.

590
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: You're not alone, so say hello, let's have fun.

591
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 4: No, thank you.

592
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: They're gonna be catching they.

593
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 4: Might be missing them like a finger or toe.

594
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: Why n the be catching in them? Gerber Baby Life

595
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: insurance stays at this rate?

596
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 4: Come on, I mean, do you take your kids there

597
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 4: and say fuck them kids? Because I mean I don't

598
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 4: understand right, look at it.

599
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: There they go on the roof.

600
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: Wow, And that's the thing.

601
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 1: No, Like literally most of these shots are with no

602
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: adult supervision.

603
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: That's who's taking a picture. Get up on the roof.

604
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: Handege play Park isn't the only part of his kind

605
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: in Tokyo. It's part of the Bulkan also Biva Adventure

606
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: play Places Association, which has dozens of partners start the city.

607
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: However, Handi gives a larger scale. Also the only.

608
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: One that's staff six days a week. Also, the other

609
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: ones have less staff. That's that's cool. This one has

610
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: the most people watching six days a week now day seven.

611
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: I mean the kids on their own. You come on

612
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: off day, you know, Hey, look, don't catch you all

613
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: off on day seven. Okay, we'll tie the turner kits.

614
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: On on the other days. Wow, yeah on Tuesday.

615
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, staffed every day but Tuesday. And it's not that

616
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: they closed, just that's it.

617
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: There's no everybody's like, I'm not working Tuesday. The whole

618
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: stamp is like fucking Tuesday. Damn.

619
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, guys. I guess you could learn

620
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: some lessons as a child, you know, about what not

621
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: to do. I know that's how I learned a lot

622
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: of my lessons. I was a very accident prone child,

623
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: so maybe you know that's how I learned, like, oh,

624
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: you should probably wear helmet on the bike.

625
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 4: Yes, elbow paths.

626
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: It's a very inconvenient concussion right here. Your first day,

627
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: first day of going to ninth grade at Harden, you know,

628
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: hard school, high school. And then I couldn't wear a

629
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: hat because the teacher maybe take it off, and then

630
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: I had a big ass now on my head and

631
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 2: she was like put that back on.

632
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 4: Sorry. She was like, I didn't know. I didn't know.

633
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: I didn't know.

634
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: One of my favorite Tar Hills baseball jersey a blind

635
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: man couldn't under a blind man couldn't order pizza from Dominoes.

636
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: The company wants a Supreme Court to say websites don't

637
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: have to be accessible. Gyemo, it's funny, because not funny funny,

638
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: but ironic. I mean Rihanna. We was just talking about

639
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: Rihanna's website for FINTI, and she was being sued by

640
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: someone who was like, Hey, I'm visually impaired and you

641
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: need to update this shit so that I can shop

642
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: here too. Correct. Well, Giamo Roboles, who is blind, has

643
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: tried to order a customed pizza from Dominos at least

644
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: twice in recent years using the company's website mobile app.

645
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: He says, depending on screen reading software, he hasn't been

646
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: able to order the food because the website is not

647
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: accessible with to blind people. So three years ago he

648
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: fired a lawsuit against a company he alleged that with

649
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: the Americans with Disabilities Act, the nineteen ninety law that

650
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: requires businesses to make accommodations for those with abilities, applied

651
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: to the website and apps of businesses with physical locations.

652
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: A federal appeals court agreed, now the Supreme Court may

653
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: weigh in, and uh, you know they gonna be like, no.

654
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, they don't be a fucking five four of

655
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: the past.

656
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: That's true because the corporation is on the other side

657
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: of this. Yeah, they might not.

658
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: Pass this ship and they and that's the thing.

659
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: The technology is new, but you still need to accommodate everybody,

660
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: and you need to end. The thing is, particularly with

661
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: a company like as big as Domino's, odds are you

662
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: can pay somebody to program your ship to pick this

663
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: sh up so it goes right, just don't want to.

664
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: It's interesting though, because they say that, you know, like

665
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: the argument would be like this is too inconvenient, but

666
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: they say that this is easy to do to a website. Now,

667
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: I don't know how easy it is. Obviously I don't

668
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: have the expertise, but I don't know. They say it's easy. Yeah,

669
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: if other companies have done it, then I don't know

670
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: why Dominoes couldn't do it.

671
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: Apparently Pizza the people hunting Papa John's, I don't see

672
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: them getting too till apparently they must get order for

673
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: mother companies.

674
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Domino's petition petition the Supreme Court to hear roblests

675
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: case where it could prove to be a landmark battle

676
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: over the rights to disabled people on the internet. If

677
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: businesses are allowed to say we do not have to

678
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: make our website successible to blind people, that would be

679
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: shutting blind people out of the economy in the twenty

680
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 2: first century, right, Yeah, more and more stuff is going

681
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: to the digital And then also, like, as a company,

682
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: what is the downside to more people buying money? Yeah?

683
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: I don't understand what they're fighting for.

684
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: All the aside.

685
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: Now every piece of companies sell every fucking thing but pizza.

686
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 4: Now, don't you want money?

687
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: You see? And this is why I never stopped eating

688
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 2: at Papa John's, Okay, because this type of evil. I

689
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: told y'all on the shop, said, all these companies got

690
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: this evil in them, but Papa John's the only one

691
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: willing to try to make some changes to be better. Okay,

692
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: they firing you. Boy, got Papa John off of the commercial.

693
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: We don't even know Papa John's had commercials. Now there

694
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: is no John. There is no Papa John no more.

695
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: They this might as a call of Pj's. Nobody knows

696
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: what it means anymore. They got they did that. They

697
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: giving money to charity, They saving black newspapers. They come,

698
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: they saving black HBCUs they out here just trying. They

699
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: hired a black woman for the PR and did everything

700
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: she told me to do.

701
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: I'm begging.

702
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm begging, begging, baby, baby, I'm begging, they begging.

703
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: But y'all told me no, I'm like Diamino's. Diamino's that

704
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: I said, Dominos ain't never did nothing good for you. Okay,

705
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: they appropriated black people's Dominoes, and y'all let that shit happen.

706
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: And y'all gonna sit up there and applaud them for

707
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: that bullshit piece of hut.

708
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: Who made the hut? Hut?

709
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: Slaves made that hut that ain't nothing but a damn

710
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 2: slavery own hut that that is our home that they

711
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 2: took the labor for. Now y'all just sitting up there

712
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: letting them get away with that ship. It's so sad

713
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: what y'all coons have done to this, to the pizza

714
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: in this country. But yeah, now now you find out

715
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: Dominoes also ablest Ain't that some ship come on?

716
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 4: And why, my thing, I'm with you, why would you

717
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 4: want to fight against this? Don't you want all the money?

718
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: Are we talking about? Billions of dollars and shit, how

719
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: much do it cost to change the website?

720
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 4: I believe somebody run a fucking program. You got an

721
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 4: it department, you gotta goddamn website. Of course you got

722
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 4: a fucking it department. They got damn jobs.

723
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: What if it's just a switch and they was like, nah,

724
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: fuck that ship, We ain't flipping that switch. Aside, Rocky

725
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: is home and he said guilty of not. He ain't

726
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: never going back to Sweden.

727
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 4: Do you blame him?

728
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: Uh no, I'm blame him. I mean I would not

729
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: want to go back either. I mean, let's say he

730
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: did it, so I whoop and niggas asked that was

731
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: following me around and now I gotta stay in jail

732
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 2: for two years, six months to two years in another country.

733
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: And y'all was just holding me for like a month already.

734
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: You know as you could.

735
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: I'm never coming back. I don't extradite me, bitch, come

736
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: find me. Y'all gonna have to motherfucking kidnap drug and

737
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: kidnap me and sneak me out of the country. Cause

738
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 2: there's no way I'm not going to Sweden at all

739
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: for no reason. I'm not eating Swedish meatballs. I'm not

740
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: going to ikia. Okay, fuck that shit.

741
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: So I get why he would be like I'm done, So.

742
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 2: I do. I do oh as petty as it is, man,

743
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: I do want somebody ask him about activism now though, don't.

744
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 4: Y'all wanted to have that same attitude.

745
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: They put that machine to work to get that boy back.

746
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 2: I want him. I won't see what if he kept

747
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 2: that same energy. I don't know what would be better

748
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: if he did or if he didn't, Like if he

749
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: was like, man, I was tripping. I called Reverend shop

750
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: that immediately. I said, I'm sorry, can you please help

751
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: your boy out? Like, I don't know if that would

752
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 2: be better or he came out was like nah, man,

753
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: fuck that shit. I'm moping soho fucking these white bitch

754
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: and sniffered cocaine. Okay, your boy got champagne problems. Okay.

755
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: I was in the Swedish prison, not to broke regular

756
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: prison like you broke niggas. Like, I don't know what

757
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 2: would be better. I mean, for entertainment sake, probably the ladder,

758
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: but the amount of vitriol that would happen on the

759
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: internet would be.

760
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: Unprecedented. But I don't know. I hope he learned something about.

761
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: That stupid shit. E let's see California governor to sign

762
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: bill giving sex worker safety for in reporting crimes. Good yep,

763
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: Like this is the one thing I think, like me

764
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: and jail covin part ways. Honest, my belief is you

765
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: need to legalize and make sex work safer because it's

766
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: a circular argument to me of less criminalized sex work

767
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: and then go look how dangerous it is. It's like, well,

768
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: it's dangerous partially because of criminalized it. Places where it

769
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: has been decriminalized, it's not as dangerous for people to

770
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: do this as a living. And I'm not gonna live

771
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: in Denow. People are doing this shit. It's like weed.

772
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: It's like all this other people are doing it. Prohibition

773
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: of alcohol and stuff. We have no fucking idea how

774
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: much of the economy is based strictly off of this

775
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 2: type of shit and how unsafe it is for every

776
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: person involved. The john's the sex worker, like everybody. And

777
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: yet in many ways our economy has reflections of how

778
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: much we love sex work. In America. We're a very

779
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: puritanical country, but we're also just this secret freak of

780
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 2: a country. Right, It's very like, oh, these holes must

781
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: go to jail. We can't see tendies take them over Instagram.

782
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: But we're also the one that's like, let me see them.

783
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, pub sites don't lie. And also my.

784
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: Thing is this, like you said, it's billions of dollars

785
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: probably just lost.

786
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 4: It's never getting taxed, you know.

787
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: And my thing is this, just like you go to

788
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: your job and punch on your computers and stuff like that,

789
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: me sucking to dick out to be able to charge

790
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: and charge you.

791
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: Tax for that too.

792
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: It's a motherfucking job. I put in the work out

793
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: to get paid.

794
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 4: Blow job.

795
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: And then also if you were gonna legalize it, you know,

796
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: you would have the economy that is this black you know,

797
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: what do you call it? Like black market? You would

798
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: take that and put it into like a more reputable

799
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: but also taxable, trackable industry.

800
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 4: And money it's like y'ago, we don't want the money.

801
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think they should do it because my

802
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: main thing is it's gonna happen anyway, you know. And

803
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: I don't feel like this is a thing that is

804
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: harmful when regulated. I feel like it's harmful when it's

805
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: not regulated. When you can't really emphasize safe sex, because

806
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do if I take my condom

807
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: off and have sex with you? What are you gonna do?

808
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: Call the cops? You know, you got people out here

809
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: killing folks that trans women the color many times are

810
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: sex workers or you know, within that avenue, and then

811
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: you got people killing them because it's like, oh, yeah,

812
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: I don't have Your life has no fucking value to anybody,

813
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: and what are you gonna call the cops? The cops

814
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: are not gonna do shit. They don't miss gender you

815
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: in the fucking They'll never find me. They don't care.

816
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: And nobody has to care because there's no record of

817
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: any of this. No one had to see my license.

818
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: You know, we talk about crime and sex work, nobody

819
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: ever talks. It's such a hypocritical point of view because

820
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: you talk out the criminalization of sex work and I'm

821
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 2: not talking about the morality of it. I don't ascribe

822
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: to people's morality, so I know I'm on the limb

823
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: here with that. But but like we had a TV

824
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: show about people having like a prostitution ranch, the bunny ranch.

825
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: Like they had a fucking TV show they based off

826
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 2: of a bunny ranch and it was like a sense

827
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 2: like people wash it and they're like, oh man, it's funny.

828
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: You know, Oh man, that dude's crazy. He's a pimp. Hahaha.

829
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: So we know that this is a thing that when

830
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: it happens in that way, can be safe. It doesn't

831
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: mean there's no pitfalls. It doesn't. I'm not trying to

832
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: argue that every sex worker is like this, living in

833
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 2: like the Smurf village. Everybody's happy and all the great

834
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: things that happen. I'm sure there's people that are like,

835
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: just like McDonald's wasn't for me. I'm sure there's people

836
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: that's like, Second Dix is not for me. Your girl

837
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: tried it and it was I didn't get empowered, I

838
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: didn't get feminism from it or whatever. Right, I get that,

839
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: But the option to do it safely is something that

840
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: should be there. And shout out to the California governor

841
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: for for doing that. And the other reason I like

842
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: this is because this is after Kamala Harris had basically

843
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: shut down black Page in that state and people, you know,

844
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: a lot of sex workers are like, you know, very

845
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: upset with her for doing that.

846
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 4: Now you took the screening process away, right, and.

847
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: And we're not safe, and this is an element, this

848
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: is a place we were using to kind of protect ourselves.

849
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: But also, you know, from a prosecutorial standpoint, a law

850
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: and order standpoint, whatever you want to call it, there

851
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: were people dying and Backpage was a place that people.

852
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: I mean, we had the Backpage murders. So I understand

853
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: the sensationalism and the fear around that, but I felt

854
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: like it needed to be a twofold approach, like, if

855
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna shut that down, then you have to do

856
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: something to protect the sex worker because they're not gonna

857
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: go away. Correct.

858
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: And Also I understand their point of view as far

859
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: as eliminating child sex rings. I understand that too, but

860
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: if you legalize it and put an age cap on it,

861
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: you kind of take that right away.

862
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: Because you go, the fuck are you doing out here? Kid?

863
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: Right now?

864
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: You find people that are kind of doing sex work

865
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 2: off the books, and you can look into them and go, well,

866
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: why is this person doing it off the books? Are

867
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 2: they hiding you know some sort of like underage stuff,

868
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: are they hiring you know a bunch of stuff? So anyway,

869
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 2: I think it's smarter to be to approach it this way,

870
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom intends to sign SB two thirty three, sponsored

871
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 2: by State Senator Scott Wiener, offers immunities sex workers who

872
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: report certain crimes, and will also prevent the carrying of

873
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: condoms being used as evidence of sex work. Knowing is

874
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: safer When sex workers are afraid to report crimes and

875
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: acts of violence, silence only helps the perpetrators of those crimes.

876
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 2: This legislation will help. It's your serious and violent crimes

877
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: are reported to law enforcement, and I thank the legislature

878
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 2: for sending it to my dead set news some in

879
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: the official press release right, and the bill sex workers

880
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: gain the ability to report being a victim of or

881
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: witness to certain dangerous crimes, including crimes related to assault,

882
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: domestic violence, human trafficking, and sexual battery, along with other

883
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: crimes without fear of arrest for prostitution or misdemeanor drug offend.

884
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing, because you come in and this thing,

885
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: you know you're going to jail two.

886
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: Right. And also that's one of the reasons you don't

887
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: get a lot of these sex trafficking rings reported.

888
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 4: Right.

889
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: It is because if I have knowledge of this, why

890
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: the fun I'm gonna tell you. The reason I have

891
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: knowledge of this is because I am also in sex work,

892
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: and I don't want to go to prison for telling

893
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 2: you that it's a trailer full of women down to

894
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: this place. You know. Now, now I gotta stay at

895
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: the station two Like, nah, you might or you might

896
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: get me killed or some shit, right, So, Yeah, the

897
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 2: code of silence and the shame is what makes it

898
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: so dangerous. You know. It was also preclude to uh.

899
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: It would also preclude the use of evidence of violating

900
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 2: laws prohibiting prostitution to prosecute sex workers, and separate cases

901
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: when it is shared in the context of reporting the

902
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: more serious crime. The bill comes at a time and

903
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: increase a conversation about sex working public and the legal

904
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: systems failure to protect sex workers from violence. According to

905
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen study by the University of California, San Francisco

906
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: and Saint James Infirmary, sixty percent of sex workers will

907
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: experience some form of violence while working. Because of the

908
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: potential of being arrested for sex work, victims often do

909
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: not come forward, effectively leaving many perpetrators free of consequences.

910
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you have repeat offenders, serial people to

911
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: go out here and sex works just go missing and

912
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck and never had your cases.

913
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: I never saw Yeah, And this is the thing that's

914
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: happening in the state of California, of course, a very

915
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: liberal state, but it does make you wonder or think

916
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 2: about just the idea that.

917
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: As a nation, what can we do about this?

918
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: What can we change? Because like I said, it's not

919
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: California is always on the forefront of a lot of

920
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 2: things that I think is right. And yes they're liberal,

921
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: wacky blah blah blah, but a lot of times that

922
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: liberal wacky shit is the shit that people go, Yeah,

923
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: that's what everybody should have been doing for years now,

924
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: and we have it, you know. So, I don't know,

925
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: hopefully hopefully that that you know, that becomes a trend

926
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: and we see more states talking about it and they see.

927
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: The revenue grow up like marijuana.

928
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: That's why people was like, I don't know now, were

929
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: living over there, that state making but billions of dollars.

930
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 4: We want that money, dude.

931
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: Uh, let's see what else we got here. A woman

932
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: reports creepy notes she received from a stranger. Test Scyar

933
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: of Queensland has returned from a have returned from a

934
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: bushwalk at Nudgie Beach on Sunday to find a handwritten

935
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: letter under the windscreen windscreen wiper of her car. U.

936
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: This is obviously from another country. When's she a wiper

937
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: winscreen riper?

938
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: Mean?

939
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: I think your spelled wrong? The wrong your I think

940
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: you're very attractive if you're interested. Of course, wrong again.

941
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: I would like to pay you cash for your panties. No,

942
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: let's see, if we had legalized sex work, this guy

943
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: would know whether or not he could be uh, you know,

944
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: asking the price for some fancies. Now says he don't know.

945
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: He don't got a place he can go. He's just

946
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: asking everyone down street. I'll meet I'll meet you on

947
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: the side of the road back in town. Just pull over,

948
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: I'll find you.

949
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: What No and kill me? No, thank you?

950
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: Sounds safe, sounds on it sounds like it's on op

951
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: and up. Uh.

952
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 4: Men are fucking insane.

953
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: One day and not to get off top of but

954
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: one day I was going somewhere and it was one

955
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: of the big old you know, the eighteen wheeler trucks,

956
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: and you know me, when people are around, I just

957
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: smile and just keep it pushing. So one of the

958
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: truck looked up and I smile and I just kept

959
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: it pushing. He tried to get me to pull over.

960
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: I was like, uh no, sir, I will not be

961
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: pulling over.

962
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 4: And that light turned green. I spent the fuck out

963
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 4: of it. I said, I don't know what the fuck

964
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 4: he thought that was. I was not listening sex.

965
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but but that goes to show you have

966
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: fucking stupid men are yep.

967
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: Also, this never happens the other way. Like nobody's ever

968
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: seen a man like jogging the beach and been like

969
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: I wonder how much to pay for his draws? You know,

970
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: like overall straight where we don't we don't really go

971
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: do that, not even gay men though, Like nobody is

972
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: like the sword men's underwear department, you know what I'm saying,

973
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: Like they like them ships. You couldn't give them away

974
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: for free. You couldn't put a pile of them on

975
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 2: the side of the sidewalk. Could be like, hey, take

976
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: take a pair, but men would would take.

977
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: Some women's so underwear.

978
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

979
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: Miss Gorer twenty nine file of police report, handing over

980
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: both the car car description and the person in questions description. Uh.

981
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: Also she saw the person a Queensland Police media spokesman

982
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: told news dot com A dot au so all Australia

983
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 2: UH the incident was being investigated. Experiences left missco Bill

984
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: shocked and discussed what the flying f go for a

985
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: bushwalk at Nuds Beach and I come back to find

986
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: this under my wiper, Miss Gorardodnews dot Com.

987
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 4: I AU.

988
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: It took her a few moments to process would have happened.

989
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 2: I had to read it a few times be able

990
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: to process it in my head. Instantly, I felt sick

991
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: to my stomach.

992
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 4: What is awalk?

993
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: Probably just a like a hike, okay, she explained her

994
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: immediate reaction. Or maybe she was just walking around. You know,

995
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: she hasn't shaved over John in a while. It's just

996
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 2: a bushwalk, and that's why Buddy wanted to pay so much.

997
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 4: He was showing the bush.

998
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 3: Ma'am, you just did a bushwalk. I need them paintings.

999
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: Okay, you knew what you're doing out here, she explained

1000
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: her her immediate explain Her immediate reaction was to get

1001
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: in the car and drive away, but she feared the

1002
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: person who left the note would follow her home, so

1003
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: she said she wouldn't let the stranger frighten her, but

1004
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: she wanted to warn others to be aware that's around

1005
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: more aware that's around us. It just encourages me to

1006
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: be more cautious, curious other areas I'm in and who's

1007
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 2: around me. Yeah, that's scary as fuck too, because especially

1008
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: if you're going on a hike or something by yourself

1009
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: and you get you know, at the park or something

1010
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: not on your car, like.

1011
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 4: Long have been falling around anything.

1012
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to buy them draws.

1013
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: Girl, just pull over and let me let me, you know,

1014
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: we work out, We could work out a deal.

1015
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: Fuck it up a bushwalk. She's just walking around free

1016
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: as a bird, and he just fucked it up.

1017
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: And what the fuck is the like pricing up? Like

1018
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: what was going on in his mind? Like was she

1019
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 2: gonna pull over? And he was gonna be like, all right,

1020
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: so I got twenty five dollars. What you're trying to do?

1021
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 2: You're trying to let me get them draws all fifty

1022
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 2: fifty twenty five, okay, seventy five thirty five, one hundred dollars.

1023
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: I just need them draw Okay. One hundred dollars is

1024
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: the most I will pay for your for your bushwalk pentings. Okay,

1025
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: that's after that.

1026
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: We I'm sorry, man, I can see if she was selling,

1027
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: but apparently they were not on sale, sir.

1028
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: A right, Like, well, mach closed, Like does he just

1029
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 2: feel like all women's clothes are for sale?

1030
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: Uh?

1031
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: Like, you know what I mean. Don't here take it up.

1032
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 4: I wants to smell some twich girl.

1033
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 2: All right, this is like, let's just go to the wire.

1034
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: Just walk around, be like with the twenty dollars under hand, Like, hey,

1035
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: she's trying to interested in making twenty dollars that you

1036
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: let your boy know. Okay, I'll be over by the

1037
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: side of the road. Just pull over and we can

1038
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 2: talk about it. H you can negotiate, no weapons or nothing.

1039
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: Just pull over by this dimly lit spot to the

1040
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 2: side of the road, keep the doors un locked, keep

1041
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: the car running, and uh we can talk about it.

1042
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 3: Okay.

1043
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: I'd love to just you know, I love to just

1044
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: you know, negotiate with you over here, away from other

1045
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: people isolated.

1046
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, people have told him no before. Yeah, I'm with June.

1047
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: That's to sound like somebody wuck around a shoot somewhere

1048
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: up because she doesn't somebody that was.

1049
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 4: Like, no, I will not sell my drawers.

1050
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: What what's Wasn't that like, I'm just trying to take

1051
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: a bushwalk?

1052
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 4: What does beacon from? What was we hunt? I better

1053
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 4: get to the car quickly.

1054
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: That's what it sounded like. When you pull over to

1055
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: the side of the road that means to come out

1056
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: of nowhere right.

1057
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 4: Uh.

1058
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 2: It was parked a few cars up from when I

1059
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 2: initially got that. I worked with cars, so it's something

1060
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: I pay attention to. When the same car turned up

1061
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 2: again and parked further up, it gave me enough reason

1062
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: to be suspicious. She explained that although she was a

1063
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: regular user of nudge Beach, the experience has stopped her

1064
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: from visiting again. I guess I won't be coming here again,

1065
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 2: that's for sure, especially alone. That's creepy as all hell.

1066
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: I used to frequent Nudgy Beach a lot with just

1067
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: my dog, just my dog, but not anymore. Also, I'm

1068
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: not stating if it was a male female, could have

1069
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: been anyone for all I know, but it's still super

1070
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: creepy either way. Well, shout out to you. Be minded.

1071
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: We know, we know, we know what it was, man.

1072
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 4: We know what.

1073
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: Don't come on, come on, we know what's up. I'm

1074
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: glad you opened minded, but.

1075
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: We know the truth. She wasn't gonna even report it,

1076
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: but then her friends online convinced her to report it.

1077
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: Reported test is not wasting their time. This sicko might

1078
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 2: rape the next one or worse. He needs to be caught,

1079
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: and you're right, people need to be warned out in

1080
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: all fairness. The person who wrote this comment also used

1081
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: the wrong y're twice, so it might be him, y'all

1082
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: never know. He might be her friend. And if the

1083
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: car the calls coming from inside the pennies, ma'am, be

1084
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: careful out here. This dirty perv needs reporting. You could

1085
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: potentially be stopping a rapist if he escalates from warning pennies.

1086
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 2: Police need to know this type of person is targeting

1087
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: contacted and watch single women out there, added another person.

1088
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 3: So damn, that's scary as hell.

1089
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: I don't know why they included this, Like this looked

1090
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: like what to be like her thirst trap picture or

1091
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 2: something in the article. I don't know, that's hell. I

1092
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: don't know what they got to do with any there

1093
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 2: was like here's a picture of her tender profile, Like

1094
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: what was it to do with? Uh? It's like to

1095
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: do it? This man it's like, now see you don't

1096
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: want them paytis Now, come on, be honest with yourself, y'all.

1097
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: I mean thirty five dollars? Could you pass that up?

1098
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: Could you pass them draws up? I don't think so.

1099
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: I don't get while they put that picture. The news

1100
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 2: is sorted.

1101
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 4: Right, it don't matter.

1102
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: And here's her news, y'all. I'm just saying, we know

1103
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 2: you needed you know that, but it's hard to judge

1104
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: the story without seeing her come here the look.

1105
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: Okay, now you see why he was asking for that bush.

1106
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 2: Let's see. Tommy Lauren apologizes for asking Kamala Harris, did

1107
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: you sleep your way to the top?

1108
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 4: Why she just doumble down?

1109
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 3: Like because apparently.

1110
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 2: Her Fox News colleagues was on her ass. Because Fox

1111
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: News people have decided that sexual harassment is for the

1112
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 2: women there at the them lawsuits and Bill O'Reilly getting

1113
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 2: fired and many a few other people losing their jobs there.

1114
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 2: They've decided that while they may be against women's rights

1115
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 2: for everybody except them, they are not against women's rights

1116
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: at the company. Okay, they still have policies to uphold,

1117
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: whether they actually go on the air and enforce those

1118
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 2: policies or not that's different. But when it comes to

1119
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: like the actual HR department, they are acciv HR.

1120
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 4: Departments like, we don't want no more goddamn lawsuits.

1121
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: Follow the ruse, right. So Tommy Lauren was on Twitter said, Kamala,

1122
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: did you fight for ideals or did you sleep your

1123
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 2: way to the top with Willie Brown? She thought she

1124
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: had a hot fire tweet the mayor that Kamala Harris

1125
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: used to date and he was married. I think he

1126
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: has like an open marriage situation. So, you know, people

1127
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: are trying to It's so funny though, like people are

1128
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: trying to make it more like scandalous, but it was

1129
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: like open knowledge. So it's one of the things where

1130
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 2: like they can't scandalize it because she's not a secret,

1131
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: you know, but they treated that way like, mm I

1132
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: bet you didn't know she slept with Willy Brown.

1133
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 3: And everybody's like, everybody knows she was sleeping with Willie Brown.

1134
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 4: I guess I didn't know. Well, will is a married man.

1135
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: It's like, well, yeah, everybody knows what he's married. We

1136
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: don't know they got arrangement.

1137
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing new to me because I'm

1138
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: thinking Willie Brown just some niggah will It Brown, but.

1139
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: He also is just some nigga, but he has to

1140
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: be anyway. It was in the mid nineties a topic

1141
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: of a lot of far right critics of Harris like

1142
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: that they like to bring up, but it's used as

1143
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: a smear by those critics, more of a misodyonistic takedown

1144
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: that has no relevance to the debates at hands. Almost

1145
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: immediately at their tweet went live, colleagues of Lauren and

1146
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: Fox be poorly express their disappointment at the jab. Oliver

1147
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: Darcy said, this kind of commentary is really reprehensible. That's

1148
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: a CNN reporter. I've been hearing this from Fox staffers

1149
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: who are not happy with Tommy lawrence tweet. It makes

1150
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: me sick that I work at the same company as

1151
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: Tommy Lauren. One Fox employee told me. Another employee called

1152
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: it unacceptable. I reached out to Fox with no comment.

1153
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: Uh and then she doubled down. See care you was right,

1154
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: She said, I didn't make this up. Willie Brown admitted it.

1155
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: The true hurts.

1156
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was about to say that that's not a

1157
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 4: character and.

1158
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: So then well it's not over yet, remember the headline.

1159
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: Uh So then after that, a lot of people that

1160
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: were that were like at the network started coming at her,

1161
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: and she said, I apologized for my comment on commalists

1162
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: personal relationship. It was wrong choice of words. There are

1163
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: many other things to take out a task for it,

1164
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: and I was stick to those. It was the wrong

1165
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: choice of words.

1166
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 4: So really I said what I said, It.

1167
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: Was the wrong choice of words. Would have been the

1168
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: right choice of words there like, but you know what, though,

1169
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: when you lay down in the gutter, you're gonna be

1170
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: surrounded by snakes. And I, personally, this is just my guess.

1171
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: I know, I don't have any proof of this. I

1172
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 2: personally would feel like a lot of Fox newswomen don't

1173
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: have a fucking problem with what she said. I think

1174
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: they have a problem with Tommy Lauren getting all this

1175
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: top billing that they feel like she don't deserve. Agree,

1176
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: she's a dumb ass. She switched from Democrat to Republican

1177
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: just in time to join the Trump Trump train, and

1178
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 2: she leap frogged a lot of what they would considered

1179
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: to be deserving conservative women who are right who were

1180
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: next in line to become a right wing kind of

1181
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: media darling. And she also is not really a true

1182
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: believer of a cause because she is not for the

1183
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: pro life movement.

1184
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 3: So they I guarantee you a lot of it.

1185
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: They disguise it as we need to be professional, but

1186
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: it's Fox News. We know that they don't care about

1187
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: the truth. We know they don't care about offending people,

1188
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: not even women. So like, these same women were just

1189
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: on TV before the sexual rash started at Fox News

1190
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 2: or before they started reporting it. I remember us playing

1191
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 2: clips to them. It'll be three four women sitting around

1192
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: going well, I mean really, it's just horseplay, flirting around

1193
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: the office. The me too movement is bullshit, and you're

1194
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 2: like okay, and then they got some shit happening and

1195
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, they paying bitches. Well, actually, yes, people

1196
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 2: have been grabbing bushes.

1197
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 4: I need some money a sudden, right.

1198
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: You know, Trump is still the president. They love Trump.

1199
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: I think they care about sexual assault or feminism or misogyny.

1200
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: They don't care about any of shit.

1201
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I would be willing to.

1202
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: Bet it's just jealous professional jealousy. All right, before we

1203
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: get into the games, Why is it so easy to

1204
01:00:59,280 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 2: hold a grudge?

1205
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 4: Makes you feel better, makes you feel powerful?

1206
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So you just thought I was just asking

1207
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 2: that question, but not bad. I did not move into

1208
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: an article. Huh. I like that. I like that question.

1209
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: You jumped out there, took a chance, and you said

1210
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: bam uh, thank you, thank you. You didn't leave me hanging.

1211
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 4: No, I did not. I was like, well, I answer

1212
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 4: the question. Then No.

1213
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: I went on to mail clinic dot org. They have

1214
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: a healthy Lifestyle adult health page and sometimes I go

1215
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: in there and look at stuff. Have different expert answers

1216
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: and in depth uh studies and discussions about certain things.

1217
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 2: And they had one about forgiveness. Forgiveness letting go of

1218
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: grudges and bitterness with someone you care about hurts you.

1219
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 2: You can hold on the anger, resentment, and thoughts of revenge,

1220
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: or embrace forgiveness and move forward. It's by the male

1221
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: clinic staff who hasn't been hurt by the actions or

1222
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 2: words of another. Perhaps a parent constantly criticized you growing up,

1223
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: a colleague sapotage project, or your partner had an affair,

1224
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: or maybe you've had a traumatic experience, such as being

1225
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: physically or emotionally abused by someone close to you. These

1226
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: wounds can leave you with lasting feelings of anger and bitterness.

1227
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: Even vengeance. But if you don't practice forgiveness, you might

1228
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 2: be the one who pays most dearly. By embracing forgiveness,

1229
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 2: you can also embrace peace, hope, gratitude, and enjoy. Consider

1230
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: how forgiveness can lead you down the path of physical, emotional,

1231
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: or spiritual well being. Now, the reason I thought about

1232
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 2: this is because I feel like, at least in the

1233
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: day and age of social media, like the idea of

1234
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 2: forgiving forgiving people has kind of stopped, or at least

1235
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: it's become less glorified. And I'm not saying it's always

1236
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 2: the right thing to do. I'm not saying you have

1237
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 2: to forgive people. Blah blah blah. You know, all the

1238
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 2: straw man shit people are going to hear this and

1239
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: immediately jump too so they can hold their grudges keep them.

1240
01:02:53,920 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: I don't care. They're not weighing me down. But I

1241
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: feel like forgiveness has somehow now become like taboo almost.

1242
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: A forgiveness is considered a weakness or or a character

1243
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: flaw right now.

1244
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 2: And I I.

1245
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 4: Gotta say this. I think for me personally, I've been hurt,

1246
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 4: and I've been hurt.

1247
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: Tremendously, and I've you know, hell grudges for a very

1248
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: long time, and I've had anger and went through the

1249
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: whole range of emotions, and yes, I chose to forgive,

1250
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: and once I forget, once I truly forgive, and not

1251
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,439
Speaker 1: that forgiveness where you say you forgive but you ain't

1252
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: really forgive, because if you really forgive, you wouldn't whenever

1253
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: that person's name or something, the situation come up, it

1254
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: withn't igniting you like it happened yesterday. You know what

1255
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, Like, truly just let it go. You

1256
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: can actually move on with your life.

1257
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 2: I was.

1258
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: I can speak for myself. I was stuck, literally stuck

1259
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: and couldn't get past the point. And I think that

1260
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: that's why you have, particularly on social media, people they're stuck.

1261
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: So since they're stuck, they want you to stay stuck.

1262
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: And so since they're not growing, they won't. They don't

1263
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: want you to grow either, or is I can grow,

1264
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: but you can't grow. They want to put you in

1265
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: the box. Because the thing is people are very forgiving.

1266
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: People themselves want grace and they want mercy, and they

1267
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: want forgiveness for them, but they don't extend that grace

1268
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: and mercy and forgiveness out to anybody else. You fucked up,

1269
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: fuck you forever, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, I

1270
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: mess up.

1271
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 4: Oh they don't keep that same energy.

1272
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 2: Oh well, you know it's some excuse or you know,

1273
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where when it comes to themselves, it's.

1274
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 4: Always an excuse.

1275
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: Other people. You don't want to hear, no excuse. You

1276
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: don't want to hear anything, you know that would allow

1277
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: that person person to growth, you know, And I think

1278
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: also now mistakes and flowers are public now.

1279
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 4: People fuck up in private all the time. People that

1280
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 4: are not online or.

1281
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: Social media dollings and everybody follow everything about their fucking life.

1282
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: People fuck up all the time in their personal lives,

1283
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: and they're able to go through the emotional things and

1284
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: get themselves together, become a better person, and come out

1285
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: on the other side. But instead of them extending that

1286
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: grace and mercy to the people that they publicly see,

1287
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm on the other side now,

1288
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: So I get to judge you bitches, you know, because

1289
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: you're that quote unquote as woke as me, and you

1290
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: don't have it as all together as me.

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01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 4: Well, you didn't have it all together either, nigga. You know,

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01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 4: everybody goes.

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01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: Through shit and everybody has a growth process. But I

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01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: think it's social media to an extent is because social

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01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: media is so negative, not all of it, but bits

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01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: and pieces of it rotates in a lot of this

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01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: negativity that it allows people to constantly harp on flaws

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01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: and harp on not forgiving and harp on these things because,

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01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: like I said, a lot of people that stay in

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01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: a lot of negativity online.

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01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 4: In my opinion, these are very hurt people.

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01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: They are hurt, They're in a lot of pain, and

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01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people are crying for help and they

1304
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: don't know how to reach out, so they go on

1305
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: social media and they flash out in vary in different ways.

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01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: This is just my opinion, various different posts versus actually

1307
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:19,479
Speaker 1: getting the help that they need.

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01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 4: Sometimes you actually need to.

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01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: Go psychiatrists, psychologists, therapy, get the medication, whatever it takes

1310
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: to get that balance where you can get to the place.

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01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 4: Where you can forgive to move on.

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01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: But I think that because it's considered a character flaw,

1314
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: nobody wants to be considered human.

1315
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 4: Even though everybody is human. Everybody fucks up, but everybody

1316
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 4: act like nobody fucks up.

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01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 3: You know who I notice are the least forgiving people.

1318
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 2: All the people that believe in this like restorative justice,

1319
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 2: prison reform, prison abolition, and shit, they are the people

1320
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 2: that don't forgive any social inadequacies or faux pause. They

1321
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 2: always want every social mistake to be a life sentence.

1322
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 2: And they claim to be these people that are so

1323
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 2: altruistic and forgiven. But I've watched them like you you're

1324
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 2: not that, like you're anything but that with any you know,

1325
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 2: let us celebrity say some shit you disagree with that.

1326
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers for forever trash. It don't matter if they've apologized

1327
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 2: or not, you know. And the other thing people do,

1328
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: they head you off with the apology like so somebody

1329
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: fucks up and we really like they're gonna come back

1330
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 2: and be like, listen, I was wrong about this, I

1331
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: didn't know, blah blah blah. And you start people, You

1332
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: see people before they can even apologize, and I don't

1333
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: want to hear it's this. Well, if that's the truth.

1334
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: So what you're doing is setting up parameters where you

1335
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 2: can withhold forgiveness, right, you can hold onto the grudge

1336
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: because grudges feel powerful. Anger is powerful you know, there's

1337
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 2: a lot of people that are powerless in many areas

1338
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 2: of their lives that they care about. But you can then,

1339
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 2: you know, put this on display in public of like,

1340
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 2: look at me publicly not moving on and not forgiveness

1341
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 2: person and holding this over this person the sting that

1342
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: they want, which is forgiveness, which is you know, some

1343
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 2: similar piece. But the truth of the matter is you

1344
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: can't give anybody anything, so your forgiveness is in many cases,

1345
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,520
Speaker 2: the forgiveness that has to happen is a selfish act,

1346
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 2: whether it be the person having to forgive themselves for

1347
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: the mistakes they made, whether it be you needing to

1348
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 2: practice forgiveness to move on with someone that might be unrepented.

1349
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 2: Happens all the time. I like, it's funny people. You know,

1350
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: I've been saying this shit for years, but I haven't

1351
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 2: always had the words that express it or whatever. But

1352
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: I mean this shit. I forgive people sometimes and they

1353
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 2: didn't even apologize. And it's not that I'm forgiving them

1354
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: so that me and them can have a relationship. I'm

1355
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 2: literally going this person, it could have been a bunch

1356
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 2: of reasons why they fucked up, And this doesn't mean

1357
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 2: we gotta be friends or they gotta be in my life.

1358
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 2: But for me to make peace with this, I have

1359
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 2: to forgive them. Because forgiveness is about the bags I'm holding,

1360
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: It's about what's weighing me down. It's not about them.

1361
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 2: They don't have to know about this process. It's not

1362
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: really their process. It's not something we're sharing. Only if

1363
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 2: we're going to continue to have a relationship, do we

1364
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 2: sharing this together. But there's people that I've forgiven that

1365
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 2: have never apologized to me, would never admit they did

1366
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: me wrong, you know. So that's not even part of it.

1367
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: But let's talk about it. What is forgiveness. Forgiveness means

1368
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 2: different things to different people. Generally, however, it involves a

1369
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 2: decision to let go of resentment and thoughts of revenge.

1370
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 2: The act that hurt or offended you might always be

1371
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: with you, but forgiveness can lessen this grip on you

1372
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 2: and help free you from the control of the person

1373
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 2: who harmed you. That's another reason I practice forgiveness me personally.

1374
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm still giving them power and control

1375
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 2: of my life when I'm holding under these grudges. Yeah,

1376
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 2: because I'm still thinking about them, still centering my emotions

1377
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 2: around them, still letting their actions affect the way I feel,

1378
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 2: and it could be years later, and how am I

1379
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 2: still letting you take up my world? When I say

1380
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,560
Speaker 2: I'm over this, I'm not over it, you know what

1381
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 2: I mean. And maybe it's a semantic thing. People like

1382
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: to use different words. Pick the words you like, whatever

1383
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 2: it is. But my goal is to get to unbothered,

1384
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, if you fucked up

1385
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: and you don't fuck with me, you won't apologize, you

1386
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 2: want to admit you're wrong. Whatever. My goal is to

1387
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 2: get to when I see you in the streets, I

1388
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 2: smile in your face, to keep walking because it don't

1389
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 2: even matter, No, it.

1390
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 4: Don't know it don't.

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01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: And also the thing about the people not willing to forgive,

1392
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: to give forgiveness because in their mind that's an illusion

1393
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: of power.

1394
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Rage and grudges make people

1395
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 2: feel powerful. It's not powerful because you're not actually doing anything,

1396
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 2: you're not actually affecting their lives, but you feel like

1397
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: you are. You know, you can't wait to tell somebody

1398
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 2: how you don't fuck with so and so and all

1399
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 2: this shit, but it doesn't do anything to me. You know,

1400
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 2: forgiveness can even lead the feelings of understanding empathy and

1401
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 2: compassion for the one that you hurt who hurt you. Yeah,

1402
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 2: that's the other thing too, on this Uh, that's one

1403
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: of the reasons I have a hard time not forgiving people.

1404
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 2: It's because I already operate in them last three. I

1405
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 2: understand the empathy and compassion, so it's hard for me

1406
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 2: to withhold that from somebody for a long period of time.

1407
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 2: You have to be a pretty shitty person for me

1408
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 2: to be not. I mean, Karen's seen it, my friends

1409
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: have seen it. There's been shitty people or they went

1410
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: that person's shitty, Rod, you shouldn't even really like And

1411
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 2: I can't help but be like, well, maybe they went

1412
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 2: through this, you know, maybe this is how, you know,

1413
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 2: how they got here, Like we might can't be friends,

1414
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 2: but maybe it's that. And they're like, no, they just

1415
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: fucked up. It don't matter how they got the fucked up.

1416
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 2: They fucked up. You should you know, fuck them, Rod,

1417
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 2: that's it. And I can't help it, you know, because

1418
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 2: I already live in that space. But you know, I don't.

1419
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: But that's one of the things I'm not gonna let

1420
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: the Internet change that about me, because it was starting

1421
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 2: to it was really starting to change that. I was

1422
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 2: being surrounded by people that have hard hearts, that claim

1423
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,759
Speaker 2: to be you know, altruistic, but you can't be both,

1424
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 2: you know, like at some point, if you don't really

1425
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 2: have empathy and compassion for other people, you're just using

1426
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: people for your brain. You're just putting this this filter

1427
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 2: up to say you have to like me.

1428
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 3: Look at me. I'm a good person.

1429
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 2: And it's like, but you're not. You know, deep down inside,

1430
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: you're a hard hearted, kind of mean person and you

1431
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 2: don't have that in you. I don't know how you

1432
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 2: got there, but that's where you at. And I don't

1433
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:33,560
Speaker 2: ever want to be like that. I don't want the

1434
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 2: people around me. I don't want folks like that, like,

1435
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 2: you know, aligning themselves with me. Because that energy I

1436
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 2: started to pick it up. And if I started to

1437
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 2: pick it up, now I'm talking like that. Now I'm

1438
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,759
Speaker 2: feeling like that. Now everybody's trash and this person's the worst,

1439
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 2: and no one there's no room for anything. The reason

1440
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: I show is so much popping compared to other people's shows,

1441
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 2: partially it is because motherfuckers don't have our point of

1442
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 2: views on shit, you know, and I take that to heart,

1443
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: like we gotta un point of view, Like it's the

1444
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 2: reason you can listen to us and be like, you know,

1445
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 2: maybe you fucking hate the Kardashians, but you might hear

1446
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: something every once in a while ago, well, Rob didn't

1447
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 2: love the Kardashians, but he does seem to see the

1448
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 2: humanity in the situation. And maybe I've lost my objectivity,

1449
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: or maybe you listen to it and you skip that

1450
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 2: part and go, fuck right, I don't care, but it's

1451
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 2: the reason I show's popping and these you know a

1452
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 2: lot of people show us kind of copycat the internet

1453
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 2: and just repeat it back to you like that's the

1454
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: difference anyway. Forgiveness doesn't mean forgetting or excuse the harm

1455
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 2: done to you or making up with the person who

1456
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 2: cause the harm. Forgiveness friends a kind of peace that

1457
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: helps you go on with life. What are the benefits

1458
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 2: of forgiving somebody healthier relationships? Listen, we have all seen

1459
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 2: the person that you're like, you're taking out the last

1460
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 2: person shit on me. I didn't do the thing, Like

1461
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 2: whatever it is you think I'm about to do, I

1462
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 2: wasn't about to do whatever it is that has made you,

1463
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 2: you know, go crazy, go hard, go whatever, go to

1464
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 2: a hundred right away. That's not me, that's something that

1465
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 2: happened with you and the last nigga.

1466
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, like my mama used to say, you coming there

1467
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: with attitudes like ah and not pissing your milk.

1468
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 4: Don't bring that bullshit here.

1469
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 2: Right, did not pissing your milk? Okay improve mental health?

1470
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 2: This is true, This is true. I went through this

1471
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 2: recently less anxiety, stress and hostility because see that's the

1472
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 2: thing where you don't forgive people and you haven't made

1473
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 2: peace with the shit. Really, you still stay in fight

1474
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 2: a flight mode, yes, like like you still keep the

1475
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 2: gun cocked for the dead sets off again, you know,

1476
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 2: because it's like, oh, here this motherfucker go I hope

1477
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 2: they say something, oh today, oh if this this a

1478
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: motherfucker even if I see a subtweet, I see a

1479
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 2: Facebook for if I see a motherfucking Instagram, Like you're like,

1480
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 2: you're already always on fight.

1481
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it also affects your blood pressure. Yeah, you

1482
01:14:59,479 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 4: know it.

1483
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 2: Well, you know what that's the next one. Lower blood

1484
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 2: pressure come out.

1485
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 1: And I know for a fact my blood pressure was

1486
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: through the roof a lot of times they they was

1487
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: like everything healthy And the next question was is their

1488
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: stress yep, because it manifests in blood pressure headaches. It

1489
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: sucks up your sight like like like you're you're fatigued

1490
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: because the fight a flight that is for a short

1491
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: burst you are. Your body's not designed to stay there

1492
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: for long periods of time.

1493
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 2: It's funny because whenever I see somebody do one of these,

1494
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 2: I don't forgive people rants. They never sound at peace.

1495
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: M m.

1496
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 2: They sound bothered.

1497
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 4: You know.

1498
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 2: Now maybe deep down they aren't and they're just ranting

1499
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 2: and raven that day. But you know, at least over

1500
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: my lifetime, those people always seem like it's still right

1501
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 2: there under the surface fucking with them hard and they're

1502
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: just calling it something else. But they're like, you know,

1503
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 2: but I'm like you always in some shit. You always

1504
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: bringing this point up. There's something you put duff for

1505
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: test too much?

1506
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 4: Right and then to now because then I was going it's.

1507
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: Been fifteen fifteen years ago for me, I was in

1508
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: the now like you.

1509
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 4: It's almost like.

1510
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: An addict, you know, the first step to recovery is

1511
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: admitting that there's an issue. And if you don't admit

1512
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: it's an issue. You can't get on. You can't move

1513
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 1: to the place of forgiveness if you're not willing to

1514
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: admit that shit bothers you.

1515
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 2: Yep, fewer symptoms of depression, a stronger immune system, improved

1516
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 2: heart health, and improve self esteem. Why is it so

1517
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 2: easy to hold a grudge? Being hurt by someone, particularly

1518
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 2: someone you love and trust, can cause anger, sadness, and confusion.

1519
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: If you dwell on hurtful events of situation, grudges filled

1520
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 2: with resentment, vengeance, and hostility can take root. If you

1521
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: allow negative feelings to crowd out positive feelings, you might

1522
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 2: find yourself swallowed up by your own bitterness and sense

1523
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: of injustice. The other thing I would throw in here

1524
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 2: real quick is they're not saying immediately because I think

1525
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 2: people here forgiveness and they think forgiveness is this thing

1526
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:02,560
Speaker 2: of you. When they asked the black people at the

1527
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: church at the Delon Routh shot it up, did they

1528
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 2: forgive him? And it was twenty four hours later, not

1529
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 2: even twenty four hours.

1530
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 3: That's not real forgiveness.

1531
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,879
Speaker 2: That's that performative bullshit that they want, like a performance

1532
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 2: from you, like they demand on demand, like but people

1533
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 2: had a problem with those black people being like, you know,

1534
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 2: we forgive him, or after the trial being like I've

1535
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,879
Speaker 2: forgiven him, and I'm like, they didn't kill my family.

1536
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 2: They killed those people's family. Now, if they decided that

1537
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 2: between them and their God that they had the way

1538
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 2: that they're gonna move on from. This is the practice,

1539
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 2: the thing they have, you know, believed in that forgiveness

1540
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 2: and that Christ would have forgiveness person and all this stuff.

1541
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 2: I am unbothered by that. That's their lives. They don't

1542
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 2: We're not a monolift and I don't get to decide

1543
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 2: for them who actually went through the loss how they

1544
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 2: must feel about it. That's just as fucked up. That's

1545
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: to me, just as fucked up as the white people.

1546
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 2: That determine they need to forgive is me determining they can't.

1547
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 2: You know, doesn't mean they're not hurt, doesn't mean they

1548
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 2: didn't lose somebody, doesn't mean they didn't go through a

1549
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 2: gambit of emotions before they got there, if they ever

1550
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: truly get all the way there. But the point, you

1551
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 2: know is that it's personal. It's for them. You know

1552
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 2: what if the difference between that person saying I had

1553
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 2: to come to a reckoning and forgive this person. Is

1554
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 2: that or them killing themselves because I can't live with it.

1555
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're going through. Maybe that was

1556
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 2: it was the call for them was It's either this,

1557
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: I just fucking take myself off this earth because I

1558
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: no longer have a mother. You know, I don't know,

1559
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 2: but you know, I just think that it's interesting how

1560
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 2: we feel ownership to other people's forgiveness or not.

1561
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: Forgiving correct and something else about the forgiveness thing that

1562
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 1: I think is devalued whenever you're going because I know

1563
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 1: for me, whenever you're going kind of through the stage

1564
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: and your heart is heavy and you're just dealing with

1565
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: all this rage and you're so focused on the negativity.

1566
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 1: There are people around you that are depending on you,

1567
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 1: and there are people around you that actually love you,

1568
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: but you're so focused on self that a lot of

1569
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: times you won't even reach out to people to help

1570
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: you get out of that darkness that you're in. For me,

1571
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: I was in the place of darkness that I was in,

1572
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: and a lot of times you miss out on love,

1573
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: you miss out on events happening, you miss out on functions.

1574
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: You know, because a lot of times you don't want

1575
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: to be around nobody, and lot of times don't nobody

1576
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: want to be around you because you're such a negative

1577
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 1: person in that spot, and you end up that negative

1578
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: energy radiates to everybody around you, particularly if you're a parent.

1579
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: Guess what your husband or your wife or significant others

1580
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: are affected by it. All of a sudden, your children,

1581
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: the whole house is depressed, and don't nobody know why.

1582
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 4: You know, it's one of those things where it is

1583
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 4: like a disease.

1584
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: It actually just spreads around everything around you.

1585
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,759
Speaker 4: You can get so bad where people are like a cloud.

1586
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 4: You can feel their energy.

1587
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: It's so heavy on some people they walk in they

1588
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: can literally switch the whole atmosphere of the room because

1589
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: the shit is weighing on them so bad that it's

1590
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 1: a fucking weight that's in the atmosphere, and that those

1591
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: weights bump into everybody around them, and people around them

1592
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 1: don't know why they're feeling sad or or and shit

1593
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: like that. That's because the person that's bringing that sadness

1594
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: with them.

1595
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, on another level, as an EmPATH, I

1596
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 2: be knowing, like I might not know the specifics, but

1597
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 2: I can feel that. But I be knowing, like I

1598
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: like dead serious, like there are people that don't even

1599
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 2: know how hurt they are. And I'm like, your friend,

1600
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 2: I'm talking to you, and I'm like, I don't even

1601
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 2: know you yet because you haven't been honest with yourself,

1602
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 2: so you can't be honest with me. It doesn't mean

1603
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm not here for you, doesn't mean we're not friends,

1604
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck you wanna call it, but we not

1605
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,719
Speaker 2: friends friends because you're not real yet because you can't

1606
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 2: be honest about the pain your feeling that's motivating you

1607
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 2: so much through life. And I can see the hurt.

1608
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 2: I can see the fractures, I can see the closed offness.

1609
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 2: I can see like the fact you still find this

1610
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 2: to be weakness or whatever. I can see it, and

1611
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,560
Speaker 2: so it's stuck in you and it can't come out.

1612
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 2: And until you deal with that, I don't know you

1613
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 2: for real, you know, like that's some real shit anyway.

1614
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, like like for me when it said the energy,

1615
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: I can feel people's energy quote unquote, like people say, yeah,

1616
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's been times where I've can hug people

1617
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: and if their heart is really heavy, I can just

1618
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 1: sense like something that's wearing them down. So you know,

1619
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm like you, I'm kind of sensitive to that stuff

1620
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 1: sometimes and I'm.

1621
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 2: Aware of that. Yeah, it's and I don't even just

1622
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 2: mean just the energy either, Like I'm talking like I can,

1623
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 2: I would say I could accurately guess like this is

1624
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 2: probably what happened. You see what I'm saying. Like there's,

1625
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 2: for example, there's people I was around where so much

1626
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 2: of their energy was like like militant, like militant blackness.

1627
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, We ride on these white

1628
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 2: folks were getting them for everything, blah blah blah, and

1629
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 2: you know better, even better after Obama got elected. Right

1630
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,719
Speaker 2: after Obama got elected, there's a lot of black people

1631
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 2: who kind of woke up to race in America in

1632
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 2: a way that they had kind of been insulated from

1633
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: or had ignored. Because once he got elected, that's actually

1634
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 2: in the racism that a lot of people had kept

1635
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 2: pent up started leaking out, and a lot of black

1636
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: people were very interested in politics and in this president

1637
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 2: in particular at that time, So all of a sudden,

1638
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 2: they actually had their feelers up and they started noticing shit,

1639
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 2: and it's like, wait a minute, my cool white friends

1640
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 2: are not nearly as cool as I thought, right, And

1641
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:09,440
Speaker 2: many of them are branched out into activism, uh black commentary,

1642
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 2: movie criticism, TV, and film writing, blogging podcasts, and they're

1643
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: kind of like, I'm now brand black tam right, And

1644
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 2: that story is not unique to all these people. There's

1645
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 2: a lot of people that fall under that umbrella. I'm

1646
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 2: not even knocking you for that, because hey, everybody comes

1647
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 2: to it. When they fucking come to it.

1648
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 4: That's how I feel welcome to the club.

1649
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: But if you can't reconcile that that's how you got here,

1650
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 2: then I can't know you yet because you haven't. You

1651
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,560
Speaker 2: don't know you yet. You know, if you can't recognize

1652
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 2: recognize that the reason you're so gun ho to be

1653
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 2: like I hate this type of person and that type

1654
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 2: of person is because that's the type of person that

1655
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 2: hurts you. That's different to me than being like pro black.

1656
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 2: To me, is not about being anti white, Like, it's

1657
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 2: not about like, you know, how can I hate on

1658
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 2: anybody that's not a black person, But for some people

1659
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 2: it is that, yes it is. And you see these

1660
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 2: people and you start noticing, You're like, well, how did

1661
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 2: they get here? It's like, oh wait, a minute. You

1662
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 2: got here because you were hurt somewhere down the line,

1663
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 2: like you come from this, you were hurt, rejected by it,

1664
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 2: and now you've turned into opposite man, Like you're now

1665
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 2: fucked all the whiteness all the time everywhere. Am I right?

1666
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 2: My black people? And while there would be other black

1667
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 2: people that have gone through the same thing who will

1668
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,560
Speaker 2: agree with you, You're not gonna find that in me

1669
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 2: because I didn't go through that shit, not in the

1670
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 2: way you did. Like I didn't, you know what I'm saying,

1671
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 2: Like I didn't come up like white. I met white

1672
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: people at like twenty two. Then it was my first time.

1673
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I think these white people want

1674
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 2: to go to the bar and drink with me. Like,

1675
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 2: but for many people, they grew up like the only

1676
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 2: black kid in here and the only black kid there,

1677
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 2: and now they had this moment and like, these white

1678
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 2: people are fucked up.

1679
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 4: Y'all been childhood friends and.

1680
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 2: Now and they're still fighting that battle and they can't

1681
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 2: let that ship go and they're still they'll they'll die

1682
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 2: possibly still fighting that battle, you know, And so that

1683
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 2: kind of that's what I'm talking about. Stuff like I

1684
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: can sense that shit in people. You know, I don't

1685
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 2: always confront them with it because I mean, what the

1686
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 2: what's the point gonna be? Right? But I can. I'm

1687
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 2: but I in my mind, I be like, we're not

1688
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 2: really friends because you couldn't even tell me that, and

1689
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 2: you know that's what happened. But it's some hurtful, deep

1690
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: full ship to have to tell somebody you don't want

1691
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 2: to tell me that, you know, that's all. That's a

1692
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 2: hard thing because then you need examine yourself, you know,

1693
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 2: why your your commentary a little bit off sometimes? You know?

1694
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 2: Ship like that.

1695
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: You know.

1696
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: Men who have been hurt by women but can't can't

1697
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 2: acknowledge it, you know, still holding on to it, can't

1698
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: but can't you know, like like trying to convince me

1699
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 2: you're is because you're just a player or some shit,

1700
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: and deep down I'm like, not, you're afraid scared right

1701
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 2: In the.

1702
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: Same thing with women, there are a lot of women

1703
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: that's been hurt by men, and they they they haven't

1704
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: got over the hurt, they haven't got over the pain, right,

1705
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of times people act like

1706
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 1: men are the only people with hard hearts when they

1707
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: come to love. Women can have hard hearts too, based

1708
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: off of the things that they've been through in the past.

1709
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 4: Also, because hurt people are just hurt people.

1710
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 2: Right right, So anyway, it just until you can forgive

1711
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 2: that hurt. And I don't mean go find that person

1712
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 2: at forgive that hurt, how you're gonna be healed, how

1713
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 2: you're gonna be full, how you're gonna be moving on,

1714
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 2: how you're gonna find out who you are without that hurt,

1715
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 2: because a lot of people are afraid to put that

1716
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 2: grudge down because they don't know who they are without

1717
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 2: that grudge. They're gonna look in the mirror and they're

1718
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 2: not gonna recognize themselves without that fucking, you know, ten

1719
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,959
Speaker 2: pound boater on their shoulder they've been carrying around their whole.

1720
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 4: Life, honey, And I've been there.

1721
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: But I'm here to tell somebody, if you're going through

1722
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,679
Speaker 1: something hunting, you fuck around there, put that boat down.

1723
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 1: You gonna feel like you can walk on goddamn water.

1724
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: You'd be a brand new person.

1725
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,919
Speaker 2: But my posture ain't right without this bouter.

1726
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 4: Come on and then.

1727
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 1: But I also even better than that with something people

1728
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 1: fail to realize. Once you get to the place that

1729
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: you begin to grow because it's a growth process. You're

1730
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: gonna lose friends, You're gonna shake away a lot of

1731
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: the negative people that actually kept you there, because negativity

1732
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: loves company.

1733
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 4: So all of a sudden, when.

1734
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: You walk outside, going girl, it's a sunny day, you know,

1735
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: a hot girl?

1736
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 4: Some more, I feel killed today.

1737
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 1: You know, all of a sudden, the people are gonna

1738
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 1: be like, bitch, you've changed, You be like the fuck

1739
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: I have, and you might have to move on and

1740
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:25,759
Speaker 1: find yourself a new set of friends.

1741
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 2: Some people are naturally more forgiven than others, but even

1742
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 2: if you're a grudge holder, almost anyone can learn to

1743
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:32,839
Speaker 2: be more forgiving.

1744
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just naturally forgiven.

1745
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: Me too, so it's not it's not as hard for me.

1746
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 2: But I do understand that some people it's a skill

1747
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 2: you have to learn sometimes. What are the effects of

1748
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 2: holding the grudge? If you're unforgiving, you might bring anger

1749
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: and bitterness into your relationship a new experience, become so

1750
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: wrapped up in the wrong that you can't enjoy the present.

1751
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: I see that all the time, become depressed or anxious,

1752
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 2: feel that your life lacks meaning, a purpose, or that

1753
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 2: you're a odds with your spiritual beliefs or lose valuable

1754
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,799
Speaker 2: and enriching correctedness with others, connectedness with others. I'm sorry,

1755
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 2: How do I'll reach the state of forgiveness? Forgiveness is

1756
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 2: a commitment to a personalized process of change to move

1757
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 2: from suffering to forgiveness. You might recognize the value of

1758
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 2: forgiveness and how it can improve your life. Identify what

1759
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 2: needs healing and who needs to be forgiven and for what.

1760
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 2: Consider joining the support group of seek a counselor acknowledge

1761
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 2: your emotions about the harm done to you and how

1762
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 2: they affect your behavior, and work to release them. Yes,

1763
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 2: sometimes I find what helps is to start moving in

1764
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 2: it before it happens. So if you notice that there's

1765
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 2: something you're doing that's like around this cycle of like

1766
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 2: anger and grudge and bitterness and shit, start acting.

1767
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 3: Like you not until you not, you know what I mean?

1768
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: So, like, maybe somebody's pitched you off and you find

1769
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,600
Speaker 2: yourself always checking up on them. You know, what do

1770
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: they up to?

1771
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 4: Now?

1772
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 2: What are they doing? You know?

1773
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 3: Stop?

1774
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 2: So stop that and maybe you still won't want to

1775
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 2: you still have at urge, but stop, you know, take

1776
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 2: a break, and then that break will get longer. And

1777
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 2: longer till one day you realize I actually don't give

1778
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 2: a fuck, you know.

1779
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 1: And the thing is for people, For a lot of people,

1780
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: they look at forgiveness as forgetting. No, no, no, no, no, the

1781
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 1: infraction happened, right, I will never forget. But the part

1782
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: of forgiving does me forgiving you don't mean I got

1783
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: the fuck with you. Me forgiving you don't mean we

1784
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 1: need to be best friends. Me forgiving you is for

1785
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: my edification.

1786
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, choose to forgive a person who's offended, you move

1787
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 2: away from your role is victim, will release the control

1788
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 2: of power the offending persons situation have had in your life. Yeah,

1789
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 2: as long as you I feel like that's something that

1790
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 2: for me anyway, I believe as long as you're like

1791
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 2: still attached to the idea of I'm a victim of

1792
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 2: this person or I'm a victim of the situation, it's

1793
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 2: hard to let it go because you see yourself as

1794
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 2: that and it becomes part of your identity. And that's

1795
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 2: why people get mad when you find out certain people

1796
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 2: that you deemed to be quote unquote victims don't see

1797
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 2: themselves that way because we've decided to society like, no,

1798
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 2: you have to be. You have to go. You have

1799
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 2: to embrace that this is your identity now. And if

1800
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 2: they go, well, I don't see myself like that, then

1801
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 2: it's like, well, fuck you're you're outside my box now

1802
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 2: get back in there. As you let go of grudges,

1803
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 2: you're no longer define your life by how you've been hurt.

1804
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 2: You might even find compassionate understanding what happens if I

1805
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 2: can't forgive somebody. If you find yourself stuck, practice empathy.

1806
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 2: Try seeing the situation from another personal point of view.

1807
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 2: I do this a lot naturally, sometimes to my detriment.

1808
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 2: It's not always been a good thing. Imit that Karen knows,

1809
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 2: my close friends know. It's not always a good thing.

1810
01:30:58,840 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 4: It could be good and bad.

1811
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 2: Some people I've been around that, they're like, what the

1812
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 2: fuck are you doing? And I'll be like, well, what

1813
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 2: if it is? It like this and this is how

1814
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 2: they got there? They're like that, shit don't matter. Ask

1815
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:13,560
Speaker 2: yourself why no, ex okay, ask yourself why he or

1816
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 2: she should behave in such a way. Perhaps you would

1817
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 2: have reacted similarly if you face the same situation. Uh,

1818
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm sure this is why I can

1819
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 2: be forgiven, though it's because I do it all the time.

1820
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 2: Reflect on times you've heard others and on those who've

1821
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 2: forgiven you, write in a journal, pray or use God

1822
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 2: God in meditation, or talk with a person you found,

1823
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 2: or be wise and compassionate such as spiritual leader, mental

1824
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 2: health provider, or impartial love when or friends. That one

1825
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 2: is big for me because sometimes like the thing for

1826
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 2: me is I need to know if I'm in this situation,

1827
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 2: like am I being rational in my in my because

1828
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 2: that's my that's my biggest thing is And like I said,

1829
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 2: sometimes it's used against me. It's like am I missing

1830
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 2: a perspective here that I just don't understand? Like is

1831
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,680
Speaker 2: there a way for me to compromise with how this

1832
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 2: person sees me and how I see myself? And I'll

1833
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 2: talk to somebody that's outside the situation and lay it

1834
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 2: down And a lot of times that's what enables me

1835
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 2: to start the process of moving on, is them being

1836
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 2: like either A, You're not crazy or B, Hey, this

1837
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 2: might be what they were seeing and this is how

1838
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 2: I can see it from their perspective. But I do

1839
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 2: need that outside sounding board sometimes be aware that forgiveness

1840
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 2: is a process and even small hurts may need to

1841
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 2: be revisited and forgiven over and over again. Does forgiveness

1842
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 2: guarantee reconciliation? No, might be impossible if the offender has

1843
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 2: died unwilling communicate with you. In other cases, reconciliation might

1844
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 2: not be appropriate. Still, forgiveness is possible even if reconciliation

1845
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 2: isn't exactly well. The person I'm forgiving doesn't change. Getting

1846
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,680
Speaker 2: another person to change his or her actions, behavior, or

1847
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 2: words isn't the point of forgiveness.

1848
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 4: No, it's not your responsibility either.

1849
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 2: Think of forgiveness more of how it can change your

1850
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 2: life by bringing you peace and happiness and emotional spiritual healing.

1851
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:05,759
Speaker 2: Forgiveness can take away the power of the other person

1852
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 2: that they continue to wild in your life. And what

1853
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:10,719
Speaker 2: if I'm the one who needs forgiveness? The first step

1854
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 2: is to honestly access and acknowledge the wrongs you've done

1855
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 2: and how they affected others. Avoid judging yourself too harshly.

1856
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 2: If you're truly sorry for something you've done, said, or done,

1857
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 2: consider admitting it to those you harm, speaking of your

1858
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 2: sincere thought, sorrow, regret, and ask for forgiveness without making excuses.

1859
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 2: Remember However, you can't force someone to forgive you. Others

1860
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 2: need to move to forgiveness in their own time. Whatever happens,

1861
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 2: commit to treat another passionate empathy and respect. Yeah. That

1862
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 2: so that was on my mind and I was like,

1863
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:40,560
Speaker 2: there's something we can talk about sometimes to get a

1864
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 2: little hippie dippy over here. But yeah, it was. I

1865
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 2: don't know, I think that's something that a lot of

1866
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 2: people could use because I don't know. It's like it's

1867
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 2: like that song where it's like love is in need

1868
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 2: of love today, I feel like that's kind of what

1869
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,040
Speaker 2: happened to forgiveness too, Like everybody just kind of so

1870
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 2: and so, like especially when you see it. I think

1871
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 2: social media gave me the tools to see this pattern

1872
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 2: more than anything else, this thing of like something good

1873
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 2: happening to a person that let's go find that time

1874
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 2: they fucked up, right, And that's when I was like,

1875
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 2: what's happening to us? Because are we pretending that nobody's

1876
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 2: ever fucked up? And we went that's okay, they got better,

1877
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 2: they apologized, and we moved on. Does no one practices

1878
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 2: in their personalized is this or is this just like

1879
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 2: performative shit or something to talk about online. So you

1880
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 2: get to do that like it's a way to pass

1881
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 2: the time. But it seems very destructive and a very

1882
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 2: bad societal standard to have out there. This one time,

1883
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 2: a long time ago you said blank, and even though

1884
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 2: you have apologized about it and done better, I need

1885
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 2: to hold you here. And I'm a stranger. I don't

1886
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 2: even fucking know you. I need to hold you here.

1887
01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 2: The thing didn't even happen to me, but I need

1888
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 2: to hold you here. That right there is scary as fuck,

1889
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 2: you know, and it makes you feel like the you know,

1890
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 2: misery loves company, and they don't want to just be

1891
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 2: around other miserable people. They want to make people miserable

1892
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 2: so that you will come down to them. And sometimes

1893
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 2: that's even you know these people they target is like, oh,

1894
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 2: you're happy you got the job. Well remember in nineteen

1895
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 2: so and so when you said this, like, it's kind

1896
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,760
Speaker 2: of bad. You know, it's a bad imppost to have.

1897
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,440
Speaker 4: I believe agreed.

1898
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 2: All right, man, we have gone a little bit over

1899
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 2: the time I got about, but I think it was

1900
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:39,719
Speaker 2: worth it same.

1901
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,679
Speaker 3: So we will skip fucking with black people and go straight.

1902
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 2: To guest the race instead, because come on guys you

1903
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 2: really want to be fucked with, have been, you know,

1904
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,759
Speaker 2: forgive black people today. That's what we're gonna do. A hundred,

1905
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 2: a hundred, forgive you a one hundred. Matter of fact,

1906
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 2: I do have a short and well I do have

1907
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,680
Speaker 2: a story that relates to this real quick. Okay, So

1908
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:05,679
Speaker 2: if you guys listen to pregame, you know, we talked

1909
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 2: about playing ball at the Why sometimes and me and

1910
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 2: Justin talked about it. I'll tell him.

1911
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 3: I'm sure I'll repeat this story for premium people.

1912
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 2: But there was a kid that you know, cool kid man.

1913
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 2: We've been friends or whatever, you know, we joke all

1914
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 2: the time and stuff on the sideline. But he was

1915
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 2: aggrieved about some some petty bullshit not dealing with me,

1916
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 2: by the way, with him and the court monitor. Last

1917
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 2: time I saw him rite like last Thursday or something,

1918
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 2: and oh no, last Tuesday actually, and so he was

1919
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 2: so mad about like this thing that happened, and I

1920
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,600
Speaker 2: was kind of talking to him, and he got so

1921
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 2: upset that, you know, it got to a point where

1922
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 2: he was like, you know, he had an attitude about it,

1923
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 2: and so I'm like, well, then don't talk to me

1924
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 2: about it. I'll you know, I'm not concerned about it, Okay.

1925
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: I tried to give you my perspective and I moved on, right.

1926
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 2: He brings it up later before I leave, and you know,

1927
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, you know, next time you

1928
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 2: should do this, and then you this is a proactive situation,

1929
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 2: Like be proactive so that you don't end up in

1930
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 2: this situation again. I'm gonna I'm just giving you some

1931
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 2: game as a as a as your older, as your friend,

1932
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 2: and cause I don't want to see you hurt like

1933
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:22,600
Speaker 2: this again. I don't want to see you upset on

1934
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 2: the sideline. So listen, next time, just walk over to

1935
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 2: this guy and inform him what you would like to do.

1936
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,759
Speaker 2: That way, he has no excuse because you did tell him,

1937
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 2: and y'all, I said, it's just about communication, right m hm.

1938
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 2: He was so mad. He was like no, da da

1939
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 2: da da. I'm said, okay, cool, And then he really

1940
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 2: pissed me off at the end because he told me

1941
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 2: like basically, stop talking, stop talking to me, And that's

1942
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 2: a big pet peeve of mine, Like, look, you can

1943
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 2: disagree with me, whatever the fuck, don't don't tell me

1944
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 2: to shut up. I wouldn't do anybody like that don't

1945
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 2: do me like that. We don't have to agree with

1946
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 2: the ship. But that's so disrespectful to me. I don't

1947
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 2: do that. You can listen to this show. You've been listening

1948
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 2: to show for how many episodes. I have never told

1949
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 2: anyone for any reason to shut the fuck up period, like, like,

1950
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 2: it's just it's a big thing for me. And if

1951
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 2: I said something like that, you know I'm joking with you.

1952
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 2: We are real good friends that I feel comfortable enough

1953
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 2: to make that joke, right, But so yeah, he told

1954
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 2: me that shit, And I said, and I think it's

1955
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 2: a benefit of bit forty. But I told him straight up,

1956
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, man, you don't ever have

1957
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 2: to worry about me saying anything to you again. And

1958
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 2: I packed up my shit left like that, You're not gonna.

1959
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,639
Speaker 4: Argue with the bullshit. You know. I'm old and back,

1960
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 4: like I.

1961
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:43,600
Speaker 2: Think when you forty, Like that's the like, man, I

1962
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 2: just hit that thing where it's like, listen, I actually

1963
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 2: like coming to the gym and listening to my music

1964
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 2: and podcast. Anyway, we don't have to talk. I've been

1965
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 2: doing you the favor of letting you come over here

1966
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 2: and talk my ear off before the game and we

1967
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 2: talk about bullshit. But I preferred chill mode is to

1968
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 2: come in here, listen to Megan the Stallion shoot some threes,

1969
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 2: and then we go play basketball. I don't actually need

1970
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 2: to be your friend, right, you know, like, hey, now

1971
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 2: I know where I stand, right. And it wasn't even

1972
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 2: like an angry thing. I mean it was a media

1973
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 2: anger him telling me to shut the fuck up. I mean,

1974
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,599
Speaker 2: tell me shut up. Cool, But I wasn't like angry

1975
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,680
Speaker 2: about it, like I just had decided like, oh, this

1976
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 2: is how I'm gonna handle this. I you know this.

1977
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 2: And so I told Justin about this story, you know

1978
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 2: that that happened, and uh, you know, and I told Justin,

1979
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 2: I said, as far as I'm concerned, the only thing

1980
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 2: that could fix this is when I see this dude again,

1981
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 2: if the first words out of his mouth ain't I'm sorry,

1982
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 2: because I said, because what they what he did was

1983
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 2: so it was just so uncalled for it and I

1984
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 2: have never treated him in a disrespectful manner like that,

1985
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 2: you know. And so I said, if the first words

1986
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 2: out of his mouth, sorry, he could skip it because

1987
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 2: it's just yeah, I'm like, it's just I'm not gonna

1988
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 2: be mad at him, not gonna be talking shit about him.

1989
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 2: It's not. I'm not gonna. But look, it's just we

1990
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 2: can't if you don't have a certain level of respect.

1991
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 2: I gotta drop this boundary because I would never do

1992
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 2: that to you, right, right, Anyway, I went to the

1993
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 2: gym to playball Monday, and I swear to god, I

1994
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 2: sat down. I didn't even see him in there, but

1995
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 2: he just came over to me, hugged me, and he

1996
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 2: started apologizing. I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry, and say you

1997
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 2: kind of sway to Kendle. But it bothered him, right,

1998
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, but it was just it was just that

1999
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,679
Speaker 2: energy that he had put out. It was so ugly

2000
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 2: that day, you know. And that was and he was

2001
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 2: out of his own because that's not even him normal,

2002
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 2: you know. And so when I talk about like forgiving right,

2003
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 2: because it's such a that's such a trivial thing, right,

2004
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 2: it's not. This shouldn't bother anybody. It shouldn't. It's not

2005
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 2: some major thing. But I've seen people blow up over less,

2006
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 2: you know, not to mention, like at a basketball court

2007
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 2: with tippers or flairing and ship like. I seen shit

2008
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 2: get ugly over the trivialist, stupidest shit. But you know,

2009
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 2: I try not to roll in that energy. But when

2010
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 2: he did that, I was like, okay, you know, I said,

2011
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 2: I forgive you, man, and hugged it out and we

2012
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 2: started talking about bullshit again, Cabo fish talk or whatever

2013
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 2: the fuck was talking about. You know, but is that

2014
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 2: type of thing that I'm talking about. I know people

2015
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 2: that wouldn't accepted that apology, or they would have wanted

2016
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:25,679
Speaker 2: to hold it a little longer, like, oh, I got

2017
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 2: this power over you. You need to be forgiven. Ha you

2018
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 2: fucked up. Now you let me know you're bothered. Like

2019
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 2: I was like, no, I wanted to be squashed too,

2020
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 2: because it was just kind of ridiculous. And I didn't

2021
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 2: try to revisit the argument and be like and this

2022
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 2: is why I was right. He was just like man,

2023
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:43,840
Speaker 2: and he even took what was even funny. He said, Man,

2024
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you know you was right. And then he

2025
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 2: said and I went over to the guy and I

2026
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 2: apologized to him too, And I also told him, you know,

2027
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 2: put me in the second game or whatever, which was

2028
01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 2: his big argument the first time. And he said and

2029
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 2: he was like, so now I'm in the second game.

2030
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 2: And I'm good, and I said, all cool. I'm like,

2031
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 2: I'm more happy that you took the advice because I

2032
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 2: was only trying to help. That's it, you know what

2033
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 2: I mean. But it was that type of thing like

2034
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:15,600
Speaker 2: that I'm talking about. It's like these little things like

2035
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 2: they add up. But if this was like say Twitter,

2036
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 2: we'd still be fighting because people just don't do that.

2037
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 2: They just don't. No one's ever wrong, no one's ever sorry,

2038
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 2: and no one's ever forgiving right because at the end of.

2039
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 1: The day, for a lot of people, and this not

2040
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 1: to sound like an insult, a lot of people don't

2041
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 1: have the maturity enough to look at the bigger picture.

2042
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 1: Like they're just not mature enough to look at the

2043
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 1: overall picture to actually understand sometimes when you apologize. Sometimes

2044
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 1: in certain situations, depend on what's going on, it's best

2045
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: to apologize even when you're not wrong sometimes just to

2046
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 1: squash the shit. I've done that before too, and and

2047
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 1: people are so stubborn and they're so I got to

2048
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 1: be right at everything, and it has so much pride

2049
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 1: that they were rather had a confrontation than to say,

2050
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 1: you know what, you're right, my bad, okay, squash it

2051
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 1: and everybody move on.

2052
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 2: I did that with a person a couple of years ago,

2053
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 2: where I forget, I apologize to them for some shit

2054
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 2: that they did that was fucked up, and I did

2055
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,640
Speaker 2: it to keep the peace and low key in my

2056
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 2: heart and hearts. I forgave them like I was like,

2057
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 2: you know what, you know, it's cool. You ain't gonna

2058
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 2: ever apologize because I know the kind of person you are,

2059
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:34,640
Speaker 2: but it's on my side. Without even telling them, I'm like,

2060
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:37,920
Speaker 2: it's fine. They had a day, whatever the fuck happened.

2061
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 2: I don't know they was tripping that day, you know,

2062
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 2: but let's make peace about it. Let's talk about it.

2063
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 2: I had to hunt them down to talk to them

2064
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,799
Speaker 2: because they was when you want to have that grudge,

2065
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 2: it's hard to find you any other time it's easy,

2066
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:53,559
Speaker 2: but when you want to hold under that grus and

2067
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 2: I apologize to that person that always for not anyway,

2068
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 2: because I'm not friends with this person anymore, but the

2069
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 2: point being like I was ever wrong, but I was

2070
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 2: willing to broach it for the fucking piece. My ego

2071
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 2: and pride is not that big on this ship. And

2072
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 2: that was the thing that my man said at the

2073
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:14,679
Speaker 2: gym that really struck after me. He said, I didn't

2074
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 2: want to lose a friend over this bullshit, right because

2075
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 2: and I said, that's what's up, man, Like, I respect

2076
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 2: the fuck out of that, because a lot of people

2077
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 2: would over some pride, like even the fact that I

2078
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 2: saw you at your quote unquote worst or saw you

2079
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 2: when you was wrong, that would make you so ashamed

2080
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 2: you couldn't be my friend because you were like, well, no,

2081
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 2: you've seen me be fucked up. So we done. We can't.

2082
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 2: We definitely can't have a relationship after this. And it

2083
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 2: don't have to be like that, man. So glad that

2084
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 2: worked out.

2085
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:45,719
Speaker 4: All right too.

2086
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 3: We'll get into our games.

2087
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:50,679
Speaker 2: We're about to get cut off for the next segment,

2088
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna pause the show real we move the

2089
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 2: chat room over all right, we are back from the

2090
01:44:56,760 --> 01:45:00,120
Speaker 2: break and uh, like I said, and get into the

2091
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 2: game segment. So when I pull up my music and

2092
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 2: we can uh earlier do some we can do some

2093
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 2: guests the race. Uh, here we go.

2094
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 4: Now that it is time for some guests.

2095
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 2: The race.

2096
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 4: That's right, it's guests. The race time. Now that it

2097
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:23,799
Speaker 4: is time for some guests the race.

2098
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 2: That's right, This guests the race time. That's right.

2099
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 3: It's time for guests.

2100
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 2: The race. The on one game go across all the

2101
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 2: podcasts and we read the play. News articles from all

2102
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 2: over the globe were hocket tests today, Karen and the

2103
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 2: chat room to guests or rays and of course everyone

2104
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 2: playing is horacist. All right, let's get into the game. Uh.

2105
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 2: Police say an accidental bump into a man's door led

2106
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 2: to a murder in North Saint Louis County apartment complex.

2107
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 4: God, I didn't know the sentence it for bumping was death?

2108
01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm uh. Court documents state that Larry Neil Junior,

2109
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:06,280
Speaker 2: thirty one, tripped on a barbecue while walking in the

2110
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:09,839
Speaker 2: apartment complex breezeway and bumped into a door. He started

2111
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 2: walking up the stairway, and then Thomas Clement, thirty opened

2112
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,599
Speaker 2: his door with a gun in his hand. He yelled

2113
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 2: something at Neil while displaying his weapon. Police say Neil

2114
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:23,480
Speaker 2: turned around and headed down to the stairwell landing. Investigators

2115
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 2: say that Clement fired eleven shots at Neil, who was unarmed.

2116
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 4: Good God.

2117
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 2: Saint Louis County officers are called around twelve twenty am

2118
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,719
Speaker 2: Sunday for a report of a shooting. They found Larry

2119
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 2: Neil Junr. Thirty one, suffering from several gun shot wounds.

2120
01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 2: He was taken to the hospital, where he was later

2121
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 2: pronounced deceased. Clement has been charged with murdering the second

2122
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 2: degree an armed criminal action.

2123
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 3: Is being held without bond. Court document state the police

2124
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 3: believe he is a danger to the community.

2125
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 2: Guess the race of not Larry Neil Junior was the

2126
01:46:57,160 --> 01:47:01,719
Speaker 2: other guy's name, Thomas Clement? Black? Black?

2127
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 3: Care's going with black?

2128
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 2: I guess uh? I guess uh, Larry Neil Jr. Is

2129
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 2: not gonna be invited to the cookout? All right?

2130
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:17,759
Speaker 4: Black on black, crying black.

2131
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 2: I guess uh. The BB and black and barbecue stairs

2132
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 2: were black on black. I guess they were gonna be

2133
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 2: barbecueing some beef.

2134
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 4: I guess that barbecue one the only thing that was bumping.

2135
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 2: All right, let's tack chat room. See what they believe

2136
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 2: black old, all black, white black. He was already wearing

2137
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 2: size on his slides, on his feet, ready for jail. Black, yes, uh,

2138
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 2: labeled as a danger to the community and not mental illness.

2139
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:18,599
Speaker 2: Black black black black. Almost everyone went black, and everyone

2140
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 2: that said that was correct. So one person did miss it,

2141
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 2: though didn't show his face.

2142
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 1: Yes, it did eleven times, dog because he accidentally bumped

2143
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 1: into your door.

2144
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that toxic masculinity.

2145
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 2: Because the reason I say that is because the dude

2146
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:56,759
Speaker 2: was leaving right and you know, and then you yelled

2147
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 2: at the dude. He came back down and then you

2148
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 2: killed the dude, like, you know, he bumped into your door.

2149
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 2: His bad, you know, And it's no need, No one

2150
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:08,400
Speaker 2: had to die over that shit, you know. But it's

2151
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 2: like a motherfucker get a gun and they they really

2152
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 2: cannot wait, you know, to use that shit. Let's see,

2153
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 2: here's one woman must register as a sex offender after

2154
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 2: trying to frame her husband for childhorn and rape. What

2155
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 2: An Arkansas woman was given six years probation for trying

2156
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 2: to frame her husband by downloading child pornography on his

2157
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 2: cell phone and telling authorities he telling authorities he raped

2158
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 2: the thirteen year old girl. Now where does she know

2159
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 2: to get the childhorn? Sherry Renee Bolton, thirty four, of

2160
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:45,960
Speaker 2: Siloam Springs, pleaded guilty last week in Benton County Circuit

2161
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:48,880
Speaker 2: Court to distributing, possessing of viewing child pornography, and foiling

2162
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 2: the false police report. Bolton must register as a sex

2163
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:53,719
Speaker 2: offender and paid more than two thousand dollars in fines

2164
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:54,759
Speaker 2: and court fees.

2165
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:58,559
Speaker 3: Damn and that was her husband.

2166
01:49:58,560 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 2: What happened?

2167
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 4: If right?

2168
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:04,599
Speaker 2: Judge Brad Herron also ordered Bolton mustard the full six

2169
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 2: year sentence. Oh you you know, six of the year shit.

2170
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 2: Bolton was arrested in January twenty eighteen following the investigation

2171
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 2: by the Salon Springs Police after she made the initial

2172
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 2: allegations a boy her husband. Bolten first told police that

2173
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 2: her husband was sexually assaulting the girl and had attacked

2174
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 2: Bolton when she caught the pair. According to a proper cause,

2175
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 2: after David Bolten presented police with three images of child

2176
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 2: pornography and showed them a possible bruise on her ribs

2177
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 2: that investigators were not able to possibly identify. Bolton said

2178
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 2: she waited to make a report because she feared retaliation

2179
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 2: from her husband, but investigators later discovered that Bolton's husband

2180
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 2: had kicked her out of their home days before she

2181
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,600
Speaker 2: called the police. Investigators then extracted the photos from the

2182
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:47,839
Speaker 2: phone and found Bolton downloaded the images.

2183
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 3: Bolton, I probably.

2184
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 4: Had her like her like I did attach.

2185
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 2: To it something did she log in as herself on

2186
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:57,640
Speaker 2: his phone probably did. Bolten initially denied knowing how the

2187
01:50:57,640 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 2: images got on the phone, but at the further question,

2188
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 2: she said she downloaded them because she was high on

2189
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 2: meth in the middle of a manic episode and was

2190
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 2: upset that her husband was trying to keep her from

2191
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 2: seeing their kids.

2192
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 3: What I'm.

2193
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go on the limb and say he was

2194
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 2: right to keep you away from the kids.

2195
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 4: He was absolutely right.

2196
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I hate that.

2197
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 4: I hate to be like that, but I'm on his

2198
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 4: side on that piece right now.

2199
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:32,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate the you know, to be the person

2200
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 2: that side against a mother like this, But I'm gonna

2201
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say he might have had a point. You

2202
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 2: should have to do it. Who told you.

2203
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 4: To do it? So?

2204
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:47,840
Speaker 3: Then she said to get kidnaped the house.

2205
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 2: She went to a motel in west Still Long Springs, Oklahoma,

2206
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 2: when she did meth with a man she met off Craigslist. Yeah, well,

2207
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 2: you definitely need your kids back. I know that much

2208
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 2: showed up high.

2209
01:51:57,640 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 4: I know you will not see the children.

2210
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 2: Both husband and the girl also denied any sexual abuse occurred.

2211
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 2: Of course, she said the man kicked her out of

2212
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 2: the room at the argument the man she did the

2213
01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 2: myth with. Bolton believed she downloaded the images while she

2214
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 2: was at the motel, but said she couldn't be sure,

2215
01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 2: so they must have had location that on it too

2216
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 2: and been like, wow, fuck, would the phone be over

2217
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 2: here when he's at the house. She added she was

2218
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 2: outside the Ozark goddess his salon springs at some point,

2219
01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:28,640
Speaker 2: but later woke up. Is Fringwood's behavioral health in Fairville?

2220
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 3: Karen gets the race Sherry renee Bolton White. Karen's going

2221
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 3: with white.

2222
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 2: Let's check the chat room. Metha Beckett white, how on meth? Oh,

2223
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 2: that's a white meth. Mama white, white, bushwalk white, bushwalk

2224
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:49,880
Speaker 2: meth white, white, white, a white meth mouth white, definitely white,

2225
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 2: a felled member of the fifty three percent white. The

2226
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 2: correct answer is everyone went with the same thing, and

2227
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 2: you all got it correct. She was white, yeah, and

2228
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 2: now you can tell in this picture. But she got

2229
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 2: a she got blue dye in the back of her

2230
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:19,840
Speaker 2: hair for a pumpy tail. Oh no, so.

2231
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:21,800
Speaker 3: Yep.

2232
01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 2: Tried to frame her husband for the old child porn.

2233
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 2: That old card. You guys know that one.

2234
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 4: You're doing all the jail time.

2235
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how much I gotta hate the motherfucker

2236
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 2: to risk my own freedom. See, this is why we

2237
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:39,679
Speaker 2: need to practice what Forgiveness is the word of today, folks.

2238
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:41,440
Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about.

2239
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:43,439
Speaker 4: That is the word of the day.

2240
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 2: All right, Care's two for two going to the bonus row.

2241
01:53:56,120 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 4: Saying the race that was a pot had the race?

2242
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 2: That's right, double the points, double the race. Caring is

2243
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 2: it bost try to guess the race so far? Caring

2244
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 2: is a rare two for two. I know could possibly

2245
01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 2: complete the set today, y'all.

2246
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:13,559
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try. I try not to let you down.

2247
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:19,559
Speaker 2: All right, let's see, I'll put Ramen on the line

2248
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 2: if you get this one right.

2249
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 4: Oh shit.

2250
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 2: A nightclub patroon relieved himself onto a commercial ice maker

2251
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 2: early Saturday. According to Florida Police, or arrested the intaxicated

2252
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 2: urinator for this early conduct.

2253
01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 4: Oh so now we're gonna have some piss the ice.

2254
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 3: Well, is your mama, you say, who pissed in your ice?

2255
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:41,200
Speaker 4: Wised it?

2256
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 2: It wasn't me? If that's goetna say. Michael Williams, twenty eight,

2257
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 2: was spotted urinating inside the ice chest used to distribute

2258
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 2: ice throughout.

2259
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:53,480
Speaker 3: After relieving himself at two thirty am.

2260
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 2: He reportedly resisted as security guards sought to boot him

2261
01:54:57,160 --> 01:55:00,160
Speaker 2: from the club, where a first Friday party was was

2262
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 2: winding down. The bash was advertising trendy with a touch

2263
01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 2: of class and featured two DJs, including Spindiana Jones.

2264
01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: Ooh and a touch of pissed by him. Didn't know

2265
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:20,120
Speaker 1: that was on the menu.

2266
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:23,480
Speaker 4: Nobody was expecting that.

2267
01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 2: Yep, he must have been really pissed off at the

2268
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 2: club when police arrided a nice pot there. Arrested Williams

2269
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 2: on a misdemeanor disordered conduct charge after pack down turned

2270
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 2: up a bag of marijuana in his pants pocket. Cops

2271
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:50,640
Speaker 2: tacked on a misdemeana possession charge seeing above. Williams booked

2272
01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 2: in County jail, which was He was released late Saturday

2273
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 2: morning after posting four hundred dollars bond. His rap sheet

2274
01:55:56,920 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 2: includes a failing in marijuana conviction, for which he was

2275
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 2: send us to eighteen months obation. Karen guessed the race

2276
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 2: of Michael Williams white. Karen is going white with Ramen

2277
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 2: on the line, y'all, let's see what's gonna happen.

2278
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 4: Everybody against me. I'm saying I might be.

2279
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 2: Wrong, the chat room says Black Michael Williams.

2280
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 1: Michael, No, he white, four hundred dollars in the already

2281
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 1: at on bell, whipping your dick out puts a pisson

2282
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:28,040
Speaker 1: in the ice, and he ain't die.

2283
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 4: I'm going I'm sticking with my white.

2284
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:33,120
Speaker 2: Let's see what the chat room says black, black, first

2285
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 2: Friday night, just got paid Black. I with Karen White,

2286
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 2: a Negro. He was pissed off white. Wee wee white.

2287
01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:42,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Karen.

2288
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 2: He had four hundred bucks white white, Yeah, posting ball white. Well,

2289
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 2: it seems like everyone is divided, Karen. Yes, this is

2290
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 2: your final answer.

2291
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 4: Yes it is.

2292
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 3: Well, then tonight.

2293
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:16,160
Speaker 2: There will be no Roman. He was, you can learn

2294
01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 2: to forgive yourself. Everybody said what everybody said.

2295
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 3: Black, You're right.

2296
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:33,880
Speaker 4: They let a nigga pissing the eyes, and nobody whooped

2297
01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:34,520
Speaker 4: his ass.

2298
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:36,880
Speaker 2: Well, looked at that bump on his head. He definitely

2299
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 2: got his ass whooped by somebody, probably the bounces. So

2300
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 2: all right, time to go to uh soy Ratchetess. Guys,

2301
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:57,960
Speaker 2: let's put some ice on its ice.

2302
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 3: They don't eat the yellow snow. But yo, right, so

2303
01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2304
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 4: I win anyway, because we're going to get Ramen.

2305
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 3: What you don't understand this game works.

2306
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 2: I don't uh, it's chopped to night now a local

2307
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 2: woman now after you problem me? Roman, I didn't promise you, Robin,

2308
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 2: I say, if you got it right, you got rob No,

2309
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 2: no you and how games work?

2310
01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:31,320
Speaker 4: Fake news, fake news?

2311
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 2: Sore who the woman faces charges a local woman's facing

2312
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 2: charger out the lady the slinging the sword at people

2313
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 2: in her neighborhood. Rowan Kindley fifty nine of Roswell is

2314
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:43,800
Speaker 2: charge of one counter aggravated assault in one kind of

2315
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,920
Speaker 2: criminal trespass court. In the court documents, the incident happened

2316
01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:51,920
Speaker 2: around three fifty seven pm Thursday, when police were dispatched

2317
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:54,960
Speaker 2: to the house a reference to a report of a

2318
01:58:54,960 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 2: woman who had come into a property and began swinging

2319
01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 2: her sword to people. Oh whenever they found Collie in

2320
01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 2: her backyard shouting at police officers.

2321
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:03,680
Speaker 3: Wait, what.

2322
01:59:05,480 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 2: How does that work? When the police arrived, they found

2323
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:11,320
Speaker 2: her in the back shouting at police officers.

2324
01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:13,920
Speaker 4: Though the police officers on the scene.

2325
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:16,880
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be, wouldn't the police arrived, They got yelled at,

2326
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:21,000
Speaker 2: and then some mo cop showed up. According to court documents,

2327
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:22,800
Speaker 2: a woman who lives now if I told the police

2328
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:24,960
Speaker 2: officers she had witnessed Colin leaving the property when the

2329
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 2: incident had happened.

2330
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:27,760
Speaker 3: After swinging the sword, the woman.

2331
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:29,920
Speaker 2: Told police Conley then came onto her property, carrying the

2332
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:31,640
Speaker 2: sword in the right hand and walking up the ramp

2333
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 2: to the woman's house.

2334
01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 3: Damn more document stake.

2335
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:37,560
Speaker 2: The woman told Belice she reacted to Collie's arrival by

2336
01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:39,680
Speaker 2: picking up a nearby shovel and threatening to hit Collie

2337
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:42,160
Speaker 2: with it she came any closer. Collie then reacted by

2338
01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 2: stepping off the ramp to the side before swinging the

2339
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 2: sword at the woman and said she said. Connie then

2340
01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:49,600
Speaker 2: hit a wooden handle on the ramp with her sword

2341
01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 2: before allegedly attempting to poke her with the sword. Shit.

2342
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:55,600
Speaker 2: The woman said she retreated when Collie from Connie and

2343
01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 2: went back into a residence. As of Tuesday, she's still

2344
01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:03,480
Speaker 2: being held without bond at the Chavs County Chavez County

2345
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:07,720
Speaker 2: County Detention Center, according to a deal population Summary report

2346
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 2: released Tuesday morning. So there you guys have it. Guys,

2347
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:15,320
Speaker 2: if you see a neighbor swing the sword around, call

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Speaker 2: the cops. But don't pick up a shovel and try

2349
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Speaker 2: to shoot the fail and get your ass in the house.

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Speaker 2: Get in the house. It's not worth you dying too. Now,

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Speaker 2: who's gonna tell the cops? Where's at? Right? All right?

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Speaker 2: That's it for today, guys, I know balls deep is.

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Speaker 2: It might be Thursday morning. I don't know. We may

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Speaker 2: or may not do a show tomorrow, depends on how

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Speaker 2: we feel and uh, until then, I love you, Na,