1 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Phillies Show with Rupa Tomorrow 2 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: Junior Jim Salisbury. I'm todd z Lucky. It is Monday, 3 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: May thirteenth, twenty twenty four. The Phillies took two out 4 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: of three this weekend against the Marlins in Miami. Ranger 5 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: Suarez did his thing on Friday night, seven scoreless innings, 6 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: Taiwan Walker one run six innings on Saturday, and I 7 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: think everybody at Lone Depot Park they're calling it now 8 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and probably even including the people in the 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: Marlins dugout thought that this is going to be a 10 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: Phillies sweep. With Zach Wheeler on the mound on Sunday, 11 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: they give him a three to nothing lead. Nick Castianos 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: hits a three run home run in the first inning. 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler goes ten pitches in the first inning, game over, 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: and then Zach Wheeler just really struggles the rest of 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: the way, gives up six runs in four innings. He 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: did not look comfortable, he was not throwing strikes. He 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: didn't seem to be on the same page with Garrett Stubbs. 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: It was just a weird kind of start for Zach 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: Wheeler did not pitch greatly, and afterwards he said, you know, 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: the funny part is when I'm not throwing strikes, I 21 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: can feel it on the mound and so I can 22 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: kind of correct. He's like, but today I felt great, 23 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: and I couldn't figure out what to do, and I 24 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: couldn't correct it, and so there he goes is his 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: game's over at four innings. So you're always happy to 26 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: take two out of three. But man, I feel like 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: I feel like this is a series the Phillies. The 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: Phillies should have swept. 29 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it tells you how good they're going. When you 30 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: come out of you know, you win a series, take 31 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: two of three, and you come out of it with 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: a you know, not a foul taste in your mouth, 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: but certainly a little taste of disappointment that you didn't 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: wrap that up and and and get the three games sweep, 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: especially when you stake one of the best pitchers in 36 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: baseball to a three donthn lead before he even takes 37 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: the mound. To me, that's a game. I think Zach 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 2: Wheeler will tell you this that he needs to lock 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: that baby down. There were other things I think that 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: went wrong in the game. There was. They didn't really 41 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: build on that lead. They had an opportunity with that 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: leadoff double by Stott in the middle innings and then 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: just a poor bunt and the poor base running play 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: and they kind of run themselves out of an inning and 45 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: it's a it's a quick inning. But I mean, you mentioned, 46 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: you know, you mentioned he may maybe had trouble meshing 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: a little bit with Garrett Stubbs. I mean that to 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: me dovetails with another concern. Real Mudro doesn't play. He's 49 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: got a banged up knee. Schwarber's got a sore back, 50 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: he doesn't play. Trey Turner's already out. We've seen this 51 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: team in the last couple of years survive periods without 52 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: Bryce Harper, you know, crucial player. We've talked about their 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: resilience and next man up attitude, but even those things 54 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: have their limits. So you really have to come out 55 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: of this series hoping that Real Mudo Schwarber are just 56 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: you know, minor tweaks, and that we're going to see 57 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: them pretty soon, because you know, even the most resilient 58 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: teams I think have their limits when it comes to injuries. 59 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no question about that. Here's my here's my 60 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: thing I have. 61 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: You know, my biggest thing about injuries is I think 62 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: about the catching position a lot with the Phillies because 63 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: you talk about it like a serious drop off on 64 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: the Garrett Stubbs great energy, does a pretty good job 65 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 4: behind the plate, dedicated. 66 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: You know, they love them, the great teammate, all that 67 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: stuff that said. 68 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: You know, without real muto back there, you don't have 69 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: a whole lot of light at the end of the tunnel, 70 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 4: even behind Garrett Stubs, so you're not looking at a 71 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 4: ton of depth. You know, Marshawn is a kid that 72 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 4: has literally cannot get off the training table set. He's 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 4: had all types of different issues. 74 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: I think he's still on the il, not able to 75 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: really do much. 76 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: He's got back, he's got risks, he's got this, he's 77 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 4: got that. And when you start thinking about, you know, 78 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 4: where can the Phillies really get hurt, it would be 79 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 4: behind the plate. And I know there's not a ton 80 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 4: of teams that have that kind of depth. I just 81 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 4: don't know that you know that they that'd be a 82 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: tough one for them to survive. That would be the 83 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 4: one spot where I feel like they don't have enough 84 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 4: depth that they would have real trouble surviving. But I'm 85 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 4: going to try to stay on the positive side of 86 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 4: what happened in the last couple of games, last three games. 87 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: Ranger Suarez is a king. I mean, the man is 88 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 3: an absolute machine. 89 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 4: Love the way he's going about his business, calm, cool, collected. 90 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: I mean everything he does is just spectacular. And you 91 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 4: know he's setting up everything with his fastball. I mean 92 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: it's really it's a four scene fastball. It's a two 93 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 4: seam fastball. It's really spectacular watching work and his other 94 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: breaking stuff is really good, and he's throwing strikes with 95 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: it and all that other stuff. 96 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: But I mean that just the command and his. 97 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: Ability to throw the pitch it pitches where he wants 98 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 4: to is just spectacular. And it is eight again, and 99 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 4: we've talked about it probably a million times. 100 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: It's a testament to being able to pitch. 101 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: If you can pitch and you can throw your fastball 102 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 4: and throw your pitches where you want to, you can 103 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 4: keep guys off off target and off timing, you can 104 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 4: have a ton of success. Also, Taiwan Walker threw the 105 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: ball well again. You know, you start thinking about the 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: pitching depth and what the Phillies have pretty darn awesome 107 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: that Taiwan Walker again not throwing ninety four ninety five 108 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: ninety six miles an hour. He's cutting the ball, he's 109 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 4: splitting it, he's thing different things with it. 110 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 3: And it's it's a really cool thing to see. 111 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 4: You got to give Caleb Coffin some love because whatever, 112 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 4: you know, pitching plans they have and however they're you know, 113 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 4: working it over, they're doing a really really. 114 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 3: Good job of it. And they're pitching. 115 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 4: There's not one guy on that staff that is that's 116 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 4: blown people away with their stuff and the starting rotation. 117 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: So Todd, let me ask you Wheeler's uh, his command 118 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: just wasn't there. You know, I was watching him. You 119 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: just miss in with what looked like a sinker. He 120 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: missed away with the look look like a four steamer, 121 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: and then you know he throws one right down the 122 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 2: middle to Josh Bell and he just crushes it. What 123 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: was Wheeler like after the game? What did he talk about? 124 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: Where did he think he got off track a little bit? 125 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: You know, it's maybe because he had a lot of 126 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: time to cool down. Uh, he actually was in pretty 127 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: decent spirits. He kind of just said listen, I did 128 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: not have my good stuff today. He was kind of 129 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: baffled by the way he threw. He didn't really understand it. 130 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: He said, like I said earlier, he felt great, but 131 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: he was he just didn't seem comfortable, you know. He 132 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: he just seemed out of sorts. So he throws that 133 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: that cutter down the middle to Josh Bell hits a 134 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: three run home run. He immediately goes to home plate 135 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: to chat with the umpire. There was a two to 136 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: one pitch that he thought should have been a strike. 137 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: His borderline was called a ball. He was thrown a 138 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: lot of balls out, like a lot of balls out. 139 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: He said, you know, they were high scene balls. I 140 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: don't like the high scene balls. So every time I 141 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: got a high seamen ball, I was throwing it out. 142 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: You know, we mentioned the Garrett Stubbs. You know, he 143 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: shook off Stubbs. I think in the second inning. It 144 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: was in a bat with Nick Gordon like two or 145 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: three or four times, and finally Stubbs came out and 146 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: they chatted. So it's kind of a lot of different 147 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: things going on. It was very un Zach Wheeler like, 148 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: and but he did have some time to cool down 149 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: It was funny because you remember a couple of weeks 150 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: ago in Los Angeles, he was like five innings, but 151 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: he was all over the place. He was not happy, 152 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: he was very He was certainly got surly Zach after 153 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: the game. More more more even keeled Zach after this one. 154 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: But you know, going back to the stubs thing and Rubin, 155 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: I agree, like if something would happen to JT long term, 156 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: that would be that would probably be a devastating blow. 157 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: Is just looking at some of the options, like Mark 158 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: Shawn is coming back. He's supposed to start playing in games, 159 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: maybe within the next few days, finally starting getting back 160 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: to some health. But Ramas Garcia was a guy they 161 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: had in camp in spring training that they thought, you know, 162 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: they liked a little bit, could play some defense. You 163 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: receive the ball pretty well behind the plate. He's betting 164 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: one thirty nine and triple A three eighty one ops. 165 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: Their other catcher, Jose Goadoi's betting one fourteen with A 166 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: three twenty fours. So they're not getting anti production at 167 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: triple A from any of their catchers. So and Marshawn's 168 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: the only other catcher on the on the forty man roster, 169 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: so they and the good news is they don't think 170 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: anything with JT is serious. They said his knee was 171 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: banged up. I asked Rob yesterday morning, could he play? 172 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: He said he could play, He could play. We want 173 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: to be careful with him because it's JT, and so 174 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: they're going to check on him today. He said he 175 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: could have played an emergency situation. So maybe he's back tonight. 176 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: Maybe they give him an extra day. Kyle Schwarber, he's 177 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: got a sore back. He felt it on his swing 178 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: in the seventh inning on Saturday. Then he actually said 179 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: he might have aggravated further running from first to third 180 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: in the seventh thing, so he came out of the game. 181 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: Talked to Kyle on Saturday. He does not think it's 182 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: an il situation. In fact, he thought on Saturday he 183 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: was going to try to take some swings at some 184 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: point to see if he can pinch it if necessary. 185 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: It was not necessary on Saturday. They could have used 186 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: him though. On Sunday, Cody Clements came in late to 187 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: pinch hit instead of Kyle Schwarber. Cody Clements popped up, 188 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: so the bad the back is still not good to go, 189 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: but they got to get those guys healthy. I think 190 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: this is really the only thing that I think could 191 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: kind of screw the Phillies up right now is if 192 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: they have turned her down, real Muto down, Schwarber down, 193 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: you know, the thank goodness for the starting pitching, it 194 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: would give them a puncher's chance. 195 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: But you know, no question these guys healthy. 196 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily scare me these injuries, but it concerns 197 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: me because no one knows this better than Ruben. Guys 198 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: getting North authority. Injuries happen, and we saw it, you know, 199 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: a little more than a decade ago, with with you know, 200 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: a great team that's continually got banged up, and all 201 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: of a sudden it's not a great team. How does 202 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: a GM approach all this, Ruben, are you out there 203 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: looking for not to slight anybody, but you're looking for 204 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 2: more catching depth, You're looking for more organizational depth? Or 205 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: what do you do? 206 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 3: Well? 207 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: I'm looking for more catching depth because I think it's 208 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 4: just too important a position. At the very least, somebody 209 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: that I can know, that I know can run a 210 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 4: baseball game for a championship caliber team, because if someone 211 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 4: were to go down, you know your fellow one foul, 212 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 4: tip away or whatever the case may be, and so 213 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 4: you have to be prepared for that. 214 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: That's one thing. I think. The other. 215 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 4: You know, you're always sort of out out on the 216 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: prowl and you're always peeking around to see what what 217 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 4: can help you. You know, they made that trade for 218 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 4: Ohapi and they moved to Ohapy for Brandon Marsh, which 219 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 4: was a great trade for both teams. 220 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 3: You love those kind of. 221 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 4: Trades because you know you're getting equity to both sides 222 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 4: of the of the of the trade, and it was 223 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 4: an important one for both. But it also hurts you 224 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: are catching depth and you know, you know that's that's 225 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: one of the difficulties with moving that. 226 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: Type of player in that position. 227 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: That said, I think that you know Dave Dombrowski, he's 228 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 4: a very shrewd man. He knows the game, he understands 229 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: I'm sure that one either there feeling good about Marshawn, 230 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 4: who I think can actually run won a game pretty well, 231 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 4: but he hasn't played at all, like almost shoot, almost 232 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: two years, he hasn't. He hasn't played, and that's a 233 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: big big thing to get back into it and then 234 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 4: and then to have the understanding if he has to 235 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: play to have the understanding of how to run, you know, 236 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 4: run the game with a staff that's had a lot 237 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 4: of success. 238 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: And you know, a team that you're expected to have win. 239 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: That said, I'm sure that Dave Dombrowski's on top of it, 240 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 4: and if there's an opportunity to add some of that death, 241 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 4: I'm sure he'll take that chance and try to make 242 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 4: that happen because I know he knows that that's a 243 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 4: you know, really really important position. But that said, let's 244 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 4: hope that doesn't doesn't that doesn't become a factor. J 245 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 4: JT's super, super durable and knock Wood they're gonna be 246 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 4: They're gonna be just fine. 247 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: So the last two games with Schwarber out, Rob Thompson 248 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: has had wit Mayfield hit leadoff, and I asked him 249 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: why Wit over anybody else. He said, well, he's hit 250 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: lead off a lot. I mean, he's hit lead off. 251 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: Most of his career. 252 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: But I'm curious for your guys opinion. Say the Schwarber 253 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: thing lingers a few more days, Say the back doesn't 254 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: get any better, and he goes on the injured list 255 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: for ten I guess it's ten days, fifteen days, fifteen days. 256 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: Do you like Witt Mayfield in the leadoff spot or 257 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: would you take a red hot Bryce and Stott out 258 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: of the five hole and move him up. There's two 259 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: different schools of thought there, right, you go at the experience, 260 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: got the top you don't want to except Bryce and Scott? 261 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: Or do you say screw that. I want Bryson Stott 262 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: hitting leadoff? 263 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: What do you guys want to do? Yeah? 264 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: I would go with Stott. You know, I always kind 265 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: of read into how people, you know, act and talk, 266 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: and Rob Thompson has con continually said over the years 267 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: that he thinks Bryson Stott has all the tools to 268 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: hit lead off one day and be pretty good at it. 269 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: So he's done a little bit before. I think we'd 270 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: probably see them see him there, but you know, who knows. 271 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: I thought we'd see I didn't think we were going 272 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: to see a ton of soda of Edmundo Sosa in 273 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: the lineup, But he seems to have found something at 274 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: the plate and he's out there all the time now. 275 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: So I don't think it would affect going to leadoff, 276 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: would affect Bryson Stott's hot hand. I think it, if anything, 277 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: maybe could enhance it because boom, you're in the leadoff hole, 278 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: and that would even to me, ramp up your concentration, 279 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: you feel good about yourself, You almost like a little 280 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: bit of a promotion, and go and do the job. 281 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: I love the fact that stops swinging the bat again. 282 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I actually made the bold statement, and he's 283 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 4: got a chance to win a batting title, and with 284 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: Louisa rise in the uh in in the same league, 285 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: it makes it tough. That said, it's nice to see 286 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: him swinging the bat well after a very slow start 287 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: for him. 288 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 3: And I do think depending on that, like the structure 289 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: of the. 290 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 4: As long as as long as I think trade Turner's 291 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: not is out, I think that they'll probably use a 292 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 4: left right combination. Like against the left you probably see 293 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 4: Meryfield leadoff, and then against the right you may may 294 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 4: very well see Bryce and Stott leadoff. 295 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: I just have that strange feeling if Schoreberd is not. 296 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: Able to not able to go for a while, I 297 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: just think that that might be the formula. That said, 298 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 4: you know, I'm confident in Bryce and stop because when 299 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: he's swinging the back the way he's swinging the bat 300 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: right now and for a lot of the year last 301 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 4: year and watching his growth overall, I got no problem 302 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 4: with him in the one hole. It's great to have options, baby, Yeah, right, 303 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: that's great to have options. 304 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: So if if Schwarber is not right, Schwarber can't play tonight, 305 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: Nick Castianos is probably gonna dh and which is kind 306 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: of maybe I'm a nerd, but I like the idea tonight. Tonight, 307 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: tonight you could have Brandon Marsham left, Johann Rojas and 308 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: center and Christian Pace. 309 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: And right field. 310 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what a defensive outfield that could be just 311 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: for fun for one night, see them just track down 312 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: literally every fly ball. H Nick Castianos this weekend. I 313 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: don't I'm I'm never right on predictions, but I kind 314 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: of hinted that he was gonna have a good weekend 315 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: this weekend, just because he's home and he loves home, 316 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: and he's a vibes guy, he's a feelings guy. Hit 317 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: hit two home runs. And I don't know if you 318 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: guys saw the comments he made after Friday's game talking 319 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: about getting on a roll lately, but he said he 320 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: basically his entire career, he's never had a plan. I've 321 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: never looked for pitch. Basically, the game's glorified bratting practice. 322 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: And I'm going to get back to that. So it's 323 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: very Nick Castianos type quote. And I asked him, I said, 324 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: is this something that you kind of was there a 325 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: particular moment where you decided that you're going to start, 326 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: you know, stops thinking so much of the plate, And 327 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: he said, naw, it's just kind of like ice, right, 328 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 1: it just kind of melts away. So poets a poet, 329 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: he is a poet. 330 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: But it goes back, doesn't It go back to what 331 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: we talked about in the early stages of this podcast. 332 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: You know that there's so much information these days, so 333 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: much analysis, and it's not for everybody. And you know, 334 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: hitting you know, they say baseball is a thinking man's game, 335 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: and yes it is, but it's also a reaction game. 336 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: And there are thinking players and there are reaction players, 337 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: and sometimes thinking can be an enemy of natural, organic performance. 338 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: And Nick Castiano is a reaction guy, and he's a 339 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: field I mean, you look at that home run he 340 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: hit in the first inning yesterday. He either picked up 341 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: that spin out of the hand or he was sitting 342 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: breaking ball, and he demolished it and and you know 343 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 2: he's swinging at the first first three at bets. He 344 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: saw three pitches. I mean, so aggressive, sitting on something 345 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 2: gets it. If you're not going to get that pitch, 346 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: you're gonna be in trouble. But we could see him 347 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 2: warming a little bit before the trip to Miami, and 348 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 2: he's say, you know, he's a reaction player, you know, 349 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: and he's reacting and reacting to pitches, and he's and 350 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 2: he's warming up in it. It goes back to everything. 351 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: I think all three of us has said. The track 352 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: record is good and he's gonna get going. 353 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: I mean, it's nice to see him get it going. 354 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 4: He feels comfortable. Obviously, it's his home in Miami. That's 355 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 4: his that's his space, that's his his space. 356 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 3: Hopefully he can carry it. 357 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 4: At some point, he's going to get closer and closer 358 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: to the numbers on the baseball card. 359 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 3: I did I agree with you, Jim. 360 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 4: I saw him starting to swing the bat a little 361 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: bit better before they left, you know, driving some balls 362 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 4: to the right side, right center field. 363 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: Pop it on over there, drove the ball. He's you know, 364 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 3: he hip you know, ball off the wall. 365 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 4: I mean he's got some when he's doing that and 366 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 4: taking the types of swings that he took on that 367 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 4: on that home it was like really free and easy. 368 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: It was a free, easy swing. 369 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 4: It was like, you know, tension free, like Charlie Nanuel 370 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 4: used to say, a tension free swing. And I think 371 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 4: when he's swinging that way and he's not thinking, he's 372 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 4: just reacting as you said, and just letting his natural 373 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 4: ability to. 374 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: Hit come through, then he's going to be He's going 375 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: to be effective. 376 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 4: It's a cool thing to watch, like, uh, each player 377 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 4: is starting to take his turn getting hot. And that's 378 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 4: the beauty of this lineup is that there's some streaky 379 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 4: guys on the team. There's no question about it. I 380 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 4: mean Harper streaky at times and JT streaky at times, 381 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 4: and Schwarber streaky obviously, And but if you get enough 382 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 4: guys going at the right time, you can get two 383 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 4: or three guys going, and which is what is sort 384 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 4: of happening. It's like the perfect storm. 385 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: Then that's that's the beauty of this The depth of 386 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: this lineup is. 387 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 4: It is that you can have those two or three 388 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 4: guys carry you for a while. And it's really nice 389 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 4: to see Johann Rojas starting to play and swing the 390 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 4: bat well. I mean, no one's talking about Johann Rojas, 391 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 4: and he's starting to grow as a hitter and as 392 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 4: a player, and his confidence is growing. And he is 393 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: not an out in that nine hole anymore. He's a 394 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: guy that can do some stuff. And to turn that 395 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: lineup over for Schwartz. 396 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: Todd, you were you were mentioned that, you know, going 397 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: to City Field, you're eager to see that defensive alignment. 398 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: It's a big yard. Yes, Ruben coach the outfielders up there, 399 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about playing the outfield. 400 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we had Conforto and Nemo out. 401 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 4: There, and you know, at one point Jay Bruce was 402 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: out there. It was it was a challenge because they 403 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: didn't really have a true center. 404 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: Fielder out there. 405 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 4: And you know now they finally moved Nemo to a corner, 406 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 4: which is where he probably belonged. 407 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 3: I think it is a challenging outfield. You have to 408 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: cover some space. 409 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 4: It's a place where he you know, I mean, just 410 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 4: like in any other big ballpark, you got to get 411 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 4: people who can track down the baseball and and yeah, I. 412 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: Totally agree with you. I love that defensive alignment. Man, 413 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 3: Those guys. Can those guys can really really play? I mean, 414 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 3: obviously Marsh can play center field. 415 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 4: But but when you have Rojas out there in center 416 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 4: and pot Jay and can play centerfield, you got three 417 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 4: guys who play center field, and a couple of them 418 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 4: at an elite level. And when you have that kind 419 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 4: of alignment, think about what it was like when we 420 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 4: had you know, Shane, Victorino, and Jason Worth out in 421 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 4: the center and right. I mean those guys, I mean again, 422 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 4: Jason Worth could play center field if he wanted to, 423 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 4: or left wherever, and Shane obviously could play all three. 424 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 4: When you start, when you start lining up, that kind 425 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 4: of defense man makes life a lot easier for his pitching, 426 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 4: especially with the ball in the air so much in 427 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 4: this day and age, everybody trying to get the ball 428 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 4: to the air. 429 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: So can I can I geek out for one second? Todd? 430 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, go for it. 431 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 2: So we're talking about, you know, outfield, playing big outfields 432 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: and tough outfields to play. Rubin also, you know, he 433 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: coached with the Mets coach their outfields. He also coaches 434 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: for two years with the Red Sox coach their outfielders. 435 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: How tough is right field I mean, I can still 436 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 2: see Dwight Evans making that catch in the seventy five 437 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: World Series and doubling up at first base. Uh you know, 438 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: go back and look at it on YouTube. Great catch 439 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: at the three eighty signing leap. But how tough is 440 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: it to play right field in Fenway Park. 441 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 4: Well it's really super tough. But I mean, who better 442 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 4: to play at than Mookie Bets and and then the man. 443 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 4: You know, I have a little love affair with Mookie. 444 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 4: He's one of my one of my favorite all time 445 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 4: athletes and people, and I consider. 446 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 3: Him a good friend. 447 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 4: He is was one of the most hard working, most 448 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 4: diligent guys in the world. And you almost in a 449 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 4: lot of ways, just like in you know, just like 450 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 4: in left field and centerfield and Colorado, you almost needed 451 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 4: to center fielders to really play that position well or 452 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 4: close to the ability to do that. So a guy 453 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: like Jason Worth, and that's why I think Seane Victorino 454 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 4: had success in right field over there, because he's a 455 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 4: pretty darn good right fielder as well. So when you 456 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: have you almost really have to have somebody who can 457 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 4: not only you know, not only hit, but you want 458 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 4: somebody who can can go get it in the outfield. 459 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 4: It's a lot of space out there that corner, you know, 460 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 4: wrapping around the pole. You have to have some athleticism 461 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: because you've got to, you know, and some ingenuity and 462 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: you have to be an intelligent player to sort of 463 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 4: play that line and have to understand how the ball 464 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 4: is going to come off the walls over there, and 465 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: you've got to be able to cover ground in the 466 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: right center because it's like, you know, it's like a graveyard. 467 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: It's a graveyard out there. 468 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 4: So so having the combination of Jackie Bradley and Mooie 469 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 4: Betts out there was pretty spectacular, and they did it 470 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: as well as anybody, and. 471 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 3: They worked very hard at it. 472 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 4: So I mean, and I love the fact that, you know, 473 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 4: actually I watched Paco Figuo work with his outfitters and 474 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 4: what a job he's done with with Nick Cassianos. Dude, 475 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 4: I will tell you that this Castianos, before he came 476 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 4: to the Philadelphia Phillies, was a well well below average 477 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 4: right fielder, and he has made himself at the very 478 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: least an average at right fielder. He's made some catches 479 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: in the gap, he's made some ketches over his shoulder. 480 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: He's made that unbelievable sliding play coming forward, and it's 481 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 4: due to the work and the effort that Paco Figaroa 482 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 4: put in with him, and the fact that you know, 483 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 4: he was dedicated and making himself better. So you got 484 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 4: to give Cassianos some love for that. Very easy for 485 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 4: guys to just kind of fade off into the sunset 486 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 4: as far as their defense is concerned. 487 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 3: To watch that Manny Rumiers, he. 488 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 4: Should have been a great, great outfielder and could have been, 489 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 4: and was a pretty good one when he first got 490 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: to the big leagues, but then you know, it became. 491 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: All about the the bat for him. That's not happened 492 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: with Castianols, and you got to give him some love 493 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: for that. He's out there working all the time. 494 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: You see Nick out there before the game with PoCA 495 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: working on different trills and whatnot. So so Philly's Mets, 496 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: it's a home and home. So two games at City Field, 497 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: they come back and play two at Citizens Bank Park tonight. 498 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: Monday night's Christopher Sanchez versus Sean and I, who's pitching 499 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: pretty well. Tuesday it's Aaron Nola versus Jose Bhutto, who's 500 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: one and two with the three point series are a. 501 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: Mets haven't announced their starters for Lisa. I haven't seen 502 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: him for Wednesday and Thursday. Wednesday at home, it's gonna 503 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: be Ranger Suarez. Thursday's gonna be Taiwan Walker. Ranger Suarez 504 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: has a one to five zero e RA through eight starts. 505 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: The last Phillies pitcher to had a one point five 506 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: zero ERA through the first eight starts of the season 507 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: to open a season Grover Cleveland Alexander nineteen sixteen. I mean, 508 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: that's crazy to put a little to put a little 509 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: history on Ranger Suarez. That's how ridiculous he's pitching. He's 510 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: the first Phillies starter to open a season with seven 511 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: wins in seven or more wins in his first eight 512 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: starts since Steve. 513 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 3: Carlton in nineteen eighty one. Is that good? 514 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 4: Wow? 515 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 3: Is that that's? 516 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: That's that's strong too, quite strong. 517 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: I wonder how hard? I wonder how hard Grover Cleveland 518 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: Alexander through the baseball. 519 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: You know, it's so funny when it has that cast 520 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: back then. I can't believe it, but they didn't. 521 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: Because Todd Actually, you know, he's always cutting on like 522 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: old time baby, like he thinks wouldn't have made it 523 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 2: out of a ball these days. 524 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: Do you remember when Adam out Of I think it 525 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: was Adam out Of, you know right. 526 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 3: He said, if Babe Ruth played it, I'd. 527 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: Streck him out every time. Do you remember that. I 528 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: think he was pitched for the Yankees at the time. 529 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 3: There's a lot of. 530 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 4: There, there's a lot of players who say that kind 531 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 4: of stuff all the time. Let me just tell you something, 532 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: at some point, these those players, if they were playing 533 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 4: in this era. 534 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: They would have made adjustments and they and they would 535 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: have been just. 536 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: Fine, totally and I and I totally agree with that. 537 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: Like you know, you take you know, Chuck bedn Erik 538 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties, he would get creamed against these guys. 539 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: But if Chuck ben Erik was born in this era, 540 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: he probably would be a stud. So that's my take 541 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: on that. 542 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 3: But I do kind of like. 543 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: To poke fund at sometimes at the you know, Grover 544 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: Cleveland Alexander's probably throwing seventy miles an hour, loading up 545 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: the baseball with a bunch of spit, because I think 546 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: that was legal back then. Ruben, how was your you 547 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: were in Miami this week? 548 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 549 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: For those that aren't watching on YouTube. 550 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: Ruben's got his University of Miami cap on and. 551 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 3: H representing, yeah, representing you. It was really terrific. My daughter, 552 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 3: Sophia graduated. I think she graduated like a three seven 553 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 3: or something something crazy from the what they call the 554 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 3: business school, and I'm just really proud of her. 555 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: Man. 556 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 3: It was my last one. 557 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: My first one graduated four years ago and this one 558 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 4: and Sophie graduates. 559 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 3: Great weekend. My liver is struggling a little. I'm gonna 560 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: have to go. 561 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 4: On hiatus a little bit there for a far too 562 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 4: many alcoholic beverages. 563 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: But great time, really proud their mom. Virginia had an 564 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: awesome party. 565 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,239 Speaker 4: We had a couple of great dinners, just having My 566 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 4: brother came down and surprised her with his uh with his. 567 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: Wife and my sister in law and so Taco and 568 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: Jen we're there. It was just really really cool to 569 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: you know, to be able to celebrate that moment and 570 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: couldn't be more proud. 571 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 4: Can't wait for heard to come up here and live 572 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 4: with me and start working here right over here in Addenfield. 573 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 3: So pretty cool. Well, that's awesome. 574 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: Congratulations, that's very exciting, very exciting, so yeah, you're welcome. 575 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: You're welcome. 576 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: So let's see if Phillies mets this week. I want 577 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: to thank our partner, Phillies Nation. I think we have 578 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: something we'll be announcing with Phillies Nation at some point. 579 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if we have the okay yet to 580 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: do that, so keep your eye out for that little 581 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: little intrigue for everybody. So thanks everybody for listening to 582 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: Philly Show. 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