1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: What two three Brits. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: In the middle of the feelings? Hellos football. 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Down in the one yard line? 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 3: How about that? 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: That is the ultimate kabash and we are underway. 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 4: Hello everyone, Welcome back to the Action Network NFL podcast. 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 4: It is the week sixteen Friday Show. I'm Matthew Friedman, 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 4: the editor in chief of Fantasy Labs, and joining me 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 4: to break down this weekend's action is Chris Raybond, a 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 4: senior editor and analyst at the Action Network and a 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 4: co host of All Take That Bets on ESPN Plus. 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 4: You can follow him in the Action Network app at 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 4: Chris Raybon. Chris, how's it going? You are recording this 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 4: and then you were going to the Action Network holiday party. 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Are you excited? 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: I am very excited. 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 5: I don't get to make it to the office as 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 5: much as I like, so excited to see all the 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 5: guys than the get it popping. 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: You guys are doing like the secret Santa thing? 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we are. 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: Who do you have? 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: I can't tell you. 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: I can't tell, but by the time this airs, we'll 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: already know. 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: No, I can't tell you. 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 4: You make it out, man, You are tight lipped. Okay, Well, 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: on the subject of giving something away. You're giving away 29 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 4: one final Action Network subscription to a lucky listener, and 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 4: that person is Thomas Hawk. Thomas, congrats on the free 31 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: sub Email us at podcast at actionnetwork dot com that 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 4: is the plural podcast at actionnetwork dot com and claim 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 4: your free subscription. 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: Chris. 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 4: Earlier this week, you did the Monday show with Ian Hardest. 36 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 4: I did the Wednesday show with Peter Jennings and Shawn Corner. 37 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: The Wednesday show was great. We've got the Friday show. 38 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 4: If you are enjoined the Action Network NFL podcast, please rate, 39 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 4: interview the show, subscribe, unsubscribe, and resubscribe to us a 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 4: solid holiday favor. Speaking of the holidays, next week we're 41 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: going to take a slight break, so there will be 42 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 4: no money show. Also no Wednesday show, but Peter and 43 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: Shawn will be on the Friday show, which will have 44 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: a little bit of the Wednesday feel to it. So Chris, 45 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 4: let's kick off by looking back at week fifteen. We 46 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: both went to three four and one. We both got 47 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: hosed with our Green Bay bullishness as well as the 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 4: Steelers pats over we pushed on the Texans Jets game. 49 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 4: We both hit by going under in the Colts Cowboys game, 50 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 4: and you again one by backing the forty nine ers. 51 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: Can't believe it. 52 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 4: I won by being optimistic with the Eagles. So that's 53 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: that's where we are for the playoffs. You are seven 54 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: six and one. I am five eight and one. Let's 55 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 4: get into it unless you have anything you want to 56 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 4: comment on about. 57 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 5: I mean, Jason Myers had to have he had to 58 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 5: have used in plus six minus six five or something 59 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 5: because I could take two extra like it. We spent 60 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 5: all show arguing about that game, and then it pushes ridiculous. 61 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's what we get for talking about 62 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 4: a game that's sitting at seven. That's what we get. 63 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 4: All right, let's get to our opening first and five segments. 64 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 4: We're going to break down the five games and right 65 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 4: now are getting the most action and the action network gap, 66 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: the games have the highest ticket counts, and the first ones. 67 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 4: I mean, let's just start Texans once again. Texans at Eagles, 68 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 4: Eagles favored by one and a half a forty six 69 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 4: point over under. The spread is up from a pick them. 70 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 4: The majority of the money is on the Eagles. Almost 71 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 4: all of the money is on the over. The Texans 72 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 4: have won ten of eleven games and they have a 73 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 4: real shot at getting a first round by The Eagles 74 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: are coming off a i'd say Heart of the Champion 75 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: Sunday Night Football win over the Rams and they're still 76 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: in the running for a playoff spot with Super Bowl 77 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: MVP Nick Foles at quarterback. 78 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't. 79 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 4: Believe, like I'm I'm now like on the Houston side 80 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: of everything, but in this game, I can't believe the 81 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 4: Texans aren't favored. But smart people are talking about the Eagles. 82 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: So Chris, talk to me about the Eagles. 83 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know me, I love the Texans 84 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 5: as well. In this spot, it's I think they opened 85 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 5: as a favorite, if I'm not mistaken so well in 86 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 5: this game, I think it comes down to the Eagles 87 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 5: can be exploited in their secondary on the back end. However, 88 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 5: you know it would have been ideal for Houston to 89 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 5: still have Will Fuller to do that. 90 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: Obviously. 91 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 5: DeAndre Hopkins, this is a blow up spot for him 92 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 5: as far as Fantasy dfs and all that believe. We 93 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 5: have him ranked number one in our consensus rankings over 94 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 5: at Action network dot Com. 95 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 4: But Action Network dot Com slash Fantasy just throwing that 96 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 4: in there there. 97 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: You got to give it the full treatment. 98 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: We're doing slashes now, and you know, I. 99 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: Like how you threw that in just sliding it. That 100 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 4: was really well done. 101 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 5: But yeah, so I'm looking at some splits here and 102 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 5: this is, you know, this is kind of what concerns 103 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 5: me a little bit about Houston's ability to fully kind 104 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 5: of go hand against the Eagles in the spot. Deshaun 105 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 5: Watson's yards per attempt still very good without will fod 106 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 5: this year eight point oh three, eight point seven to 107 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 5: six with Fuller in the lineup. But if you look 108 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 5: at net yards per attempt, which takes into account sacks, 109 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 5: which is really important when you look at the Texans 110 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 5: because Deshaun Watson takes a ton of sacks and you know, 111 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 5: top three in the league in terms of taking sacks, 112 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 5: and so they're down to six point two netyards per 113 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 5: attempt since week number nine, which was their first game 114 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 5: without Fuller, you know, when he tore the ACL. So 115 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 5: overall the Eagles, it's a pretty even game. And the 116 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 5: fact that the Eagles have the home field advantage, I 117 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 5: actually have them with a slight edge. I actually took 118 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 5: them at one point five and I'll take that bet 119 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 5: for this Friday show, so Ilean Eagles, but I'm going 120 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 5: for us. I'm going with the under here under forty 121 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 5: six because I think that kind of slightly reduced efficiency 122 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 5: for the Texans, and then on the other side, probably 123 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 5: some some reduced efficiency for Nick Foles compared to Carson Wentz, 124 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 5: even though I know Foles had the big game. I 125 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 5: think the fact that the over under got bet up 126 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 5: half a point to a point, I think that's mostly 127 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 5: due to the recency bias. 128 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 2: You know, the Texans Jets, it. 129 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 5: Was a pretty low over under a game and that 130 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 5: went that went over by I believe it was ten points. 131 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 5: And then on the other side you had the Eagles 132 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 5: rams game just hitting that over under a fifty three. 133 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 5: So I think He's people are kind of seeing two 134 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 5: teams that you know, scored a little more than expected, 135 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 5: had a higher scoring game and expected last week, and 136 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 5: kind of artificially inflating it. So I'm going with the 137 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 5: under for this game, but I do Lean Eagles, just 138 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 5: just by a tiny, tiny bit. 139 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's I don't know. 140 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm pretty bullish on the Texans here, and 141 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: I'm probably on the square side of this. But you're 142 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 4: right to point out, and I pointed this out in 143 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 4: the quarterback Breakdown, which you can find at Fantasy Labs, 144 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 4: that Deshaun Watson. 145 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 2: Cleate right right, Fantasy Labs slash what well, I. 146 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: Mean, I'm just saying, I mean, actually network actually worked 147 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 4: at coms slash fantasy. 148 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: That's where I say that every show. 149 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, So if we if we draw on 150 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 5: the dot com, that's when we start slashing we're doing. 151 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, you know I mean so yeah, Fantasy Labs. 152 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: You know, you can find it in Fantasy Labs. 153 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: Uh anyway, So you can find this, this wonderful piece 154 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: at at Fantasy Labs, dot com slash articles, NFL slash 155 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: DFS slash fantasy anyway. 156 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: So uh this not no one's gonna run or read it. 157 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, but the splits Watson splits with and without Fuller 158 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: are they're pretty extreme. And you can see it with 159 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: the offense too. And if you look at all of 160 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 4: the players, not just uh receivers, but you know running 161 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 4: backs tight ends. All of the players to whom Watson 162 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 4: has given five targets in his career, he is clearly 163 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: the most efficient when throwing to Fuller, and like you 164 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: could say that there's you know, like some noise in there. 165 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 4: But he has an adjusted yards per tenth mark of 166 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 4: thirteen point six when targeting Will Fuller. To compare that 167 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: to Damarius Thomas, it's nine point nine three for DeAndre Hopkins, 168 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 4: it's nine point seven toy six. We would expect Hopkins' 169 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 4: number to be lower because he just gets so many 170 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: more targets. But the point is like Fuller adds a 171 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 4: real extra dimension to that offense, and I think they 172 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: will miss him. That said, I have very little respects 173 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 4: right now for that Eagles defense, especially the secondary. It's 174 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: just it's really decimated. They're missing their safety, they are 175 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 4: missing their two starting outside corners. It's unlikely I think 176 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 4: that Sidney Jones is going to play in this game. 177 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 4: So they are basically starting like backups to the backups 178 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 4: at the outside position. 179 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: It's just it's not a good situation for them. 180 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 5: What do you make of like, you know, gone off 181 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 5: that in the Eagles defense? So what do you make 182 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 5: of their performance against the Rams? Because they held the Rams, 183 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 5: you know, pretty pretty in check for a large part 184 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 5: of that game. I know the Rams kind of had 185 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 5: a drive at the end and added a touchdown. But 186 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 5: you know, what do you attribute that to? You know, 187 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 5: as far as the Eagles and where they're at defensively. 188 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: Hashtag heart of the Champion, that's what I'm attributing to. 189 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 4: I mean, it was and I said this on the 190 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: last the last show, Like I think it's like it 191 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 4: was like their final game of like, all right, our 192 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: quarterback is out, people are riding us off. We were 193 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 4: playing the team that could be in the super Bowl 194 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 4: this last year, Like we are not going out like chumps, 195 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: like we are going to put out a good game. 196 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: Like I know that sounds like that's total narrative Street, 197 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 4: but like I think that was a big part of it, 198 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 4: you know. I feel and also the Rams like they 199 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 4: just haven't been the same since Cooper Cup's injury. You know, 200 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: like there's just there's something I think more going on 201 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 4: with that offense than with just like the defense of 202 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: the Eagles and what they were able to do. Anyway, 203 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 4: I'm taking Houston over twenty two and a half. 204 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: I like that a lot. I don't know those four points. 205 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 5: The one thing, you know, because this is a tough game, 206 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 5: it's I feel like they're very thin margins. But the 207 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 5: one thing that concerns me just about points in this 208 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 5: game is that Foles can also kind of have these 209 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 5: ugly games, and you know, he played against the Rams 210 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 5: last week. It's kind of a situation where you're gonna 211 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 5: be as probably as aggressive as you're gonna be against 212 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 5: any team on offense because you're trying to you know, 213 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 5: you have to score points. Houston not quite the same 214 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 5: type of team. But remember that Dallas game against Silly 215 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 5: two weeks ago where that was nine to six or 216 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 5: something well into the third quarter and then you know, 217 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 5: because the game was close and it ended up going overtime. 218 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 5: You know, the Egles got gave up a ton of 219 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 5: production and they gave up twenty nine points. But I mean, 220 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 5: if that game doesn't go to overtime, it's it's a 221 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 5: whole different type of six pas. 222 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 4: That's like the Dak Prescott undermachine. Like, you know, I'm 223 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 4: not that's a totally different type of offense. Like Sean 224 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 4: Watson is not, you know, he's not. 225 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott like. It's just it's different. 226 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 5: The Houston offense has gotten a little Prescott like. But yeah, 227 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 5: they don't they don't have that same type of rush 228 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 5: vom because they don't have that same type of running back. 229 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 5: Lamar Miller popped up on you know he he hurt 230 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 5: his angle last game. 231 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they have gotten Prescott esk, but they're still 232 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: scoring points. 233 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 4: Like I think that's actually like kind of the big 234 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: distinction is that they're still pretty good. Like, they're pretty 235 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: efficient at turning yardage into points and the Cowboys aren't 236 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: nearly as efficient at doing that. Okay, let's talk about 237 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 4: the Bills at the Patriots. Patriots favored by thirteen a 238 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 4: forty four point five over under. Thirty three percent of 239 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 4: the bets fifty two percent of the money is on 240 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 4: the Bills, who might have a future with Josh Allen 241 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 4: and Robert Foster. The Pats have lost two straight games. 242 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 4: They need a win if they hope to get a 243 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 4: first round by but they will be without Josh Gordon. 244 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: News breaking today that he is taking time away from 245 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 4: the team and has been suspended indefinitely by the league. 246 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: Oh man, Chris, what are your what are your thoughts 247 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: on this game? 248 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think Gordon hit my miss game prediction, 249 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 5: but he came close. 250 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: He can't close. I think I predicted six, he's gonna 251 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: end up missing. 252 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 5: What is it for now to yeah, I think four, 253 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 5: But yeah, I hope he's getting what he needs to 254 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 5: get done. As far as the game, you know, the Patriots, 255 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 5: I don't know what's up with them. They've been kind 256 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 5: of uncharacteristically sluggish at times this season. 257 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 2: Well, also tough game to the Steelers last week. 258 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 5: But I still think they have a pretty big advantage 259 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 5: over the Bills in this game. 260 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: Even with the new improved. 261 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 5: Josh Allen aka the Josh Allen without Kelvin Benjamin, without 262 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 5: you know, Andre Holmes, they are kind of taking up targets. 263 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 5: I think they've kind of found something with this top 264 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 5: three of Zay Jones, Robert Foster, and Isaiah McKenzie kind 265 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 5: of functioning in that jackiem Grant kind of role as 266 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 5: Ian hard It's called it. 267 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: We not religious, but I'm not going to take too 268 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: much issue with it. 269 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 5: Go ahead, But yeah, no, So, I think the Bills 270 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 5: definitely have improved on offense. But that being said, I 271 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 5: still think the Patriots have a major advantage just in 272 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 5: terms of their pass offense against the Bills pass offense, 273 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 5: even in its improved state, even with Josh Gordon being out, 274 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 5: I mean, you still have Rob Gronkowski and Edelman. We 275 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 5: saw Chris Hogan make the big player though I think 276 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 5: he'll probably see a lot of Tredavius White now that 277 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 5: Gordon is out. Still have guys like Cordero Patterson and whatnot. 278 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 5: So I think that the Patriots can get it done here. 279 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 5: And I like the spot for them because they're coming 280 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 5: off a loss that you know, didn't work out last week, 281 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 5: but they are thirty eight and thirteen against the spread 282 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 5: coming off a loss. Since two thousand and three, they're 283 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 5: eight and three against the spread when they're on a 284 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 5: two game losing streak, you know, when they score ten 285 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 5: points or fewer in a previous game. 286 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: Evan Abrams wrote. 287 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 5: This up in our betting preview over at Action Network 288 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 5: dot Com slash NFL. No nice, you know, he wrote, 289 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 5: he gave he wrote this nugget, which I thought it 290 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 5: was interesting. Since three when the Pats scored ten or 291 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 5: few points in their previous game, they're eleven and oh 292 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 5: straight up ten in one against the spread and they 293 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 5: cover by an average of eleven point six points per 294 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 5: game in the next game. So I think that this 295 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 5: is a rebound spot for the Patriots. I do think 296 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 5: the Bills will can and you to get support just 297 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 5: because of the Patriots struggle and the youth spread. And 298 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 5: I'm usually kind of trying to bet the underdog and 299 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 5: spread this big, but I just like the spot, the 300 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 5: rebound spot for the Pats and I think, you know, 301 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 5: everyone's kind of down on them right now. 302 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you. 303 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 4: Based on the podcast that Chad Millman did with Bob 304 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 4: Scucci the Favorites podcast on Wednesday, Scooch said that the 305 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: sharp money is on the Bills. The public is laying 306 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: the number that said, I can't I can't find it 307 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 4: in myself to take the Bills, But I kind of 308 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: want to stay away from the Patriots a little bit. 309 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: I could see them winning by ten, you know what 310 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I could see like the back door cover. 311 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 4: So like that's just a situation I kind of want 312 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 4: to stay away from. But I do feel confident overall 313 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 4: in points And it's kind of correlated with what you're 314 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: saying that if if you're looking to take the Patriots, 315 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: I think you would also be fine with probably looking 316 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 4: for the the over there, because I do think that 317 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 4: the Bills will find a way to you know, like 318 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: Josh Allen, random touchdowns, you know, deep throat of Robert Foster, 319 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: whatever it is. I think they will find a way 320 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,239 Speaker 4: to score some points. So and just kind of historically 321 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 4: in the Gronk era, the Patriots tend to go over 322 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 4: quite a bit at home. So I'm comfortable even though 323 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 4: Gronk isn't his full self, I'm still confident enough to 324 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 4: take the over there if I had to take a 325 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: position on this game. 326 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: I hear your point, and I've thought about the over two. 327 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 5: I do know, you know, it's one of those things 328 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 5: with the second game in a divisional series, and they 329 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 5: did play a pretty low scoring game the first time 330 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 5: that that's the only thing that gives me a little 331 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 5: bit of pause about that, because the second games are 332 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 5: usually lower scoring. So this is another tough one. But yeah, 333 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm sticking with the Pats. You know, I 334 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 5: expect them to rebound. 335 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay. Third game Bengals at Browns. Brown's favored by nine, 336 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 4: a forty four point five over under. Almost all of 337 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 4: the money is on the under. The Bengals are without 338 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: Andy Dalton, AJ Green and presumably Tyler Boyd, who's dealing 339 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 4: with his sprained MCL. The Browns are four and two 340 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 4: since dismissing head coach Hugh Jackson and offensive coordinator Todd Haley. 341 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: They still have theoretical shots to make the playoffs at 342 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 4: six seven and one, And Chris, you just kind of 343 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: have to ask yourself, like, if they had just started 344 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield to begin the season, would they be slotted 345 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 4: for a playoff spot right now? I think they would 346 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 4: have a real chance at it. But what are you 347 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 4: making of this game? 348 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I agree with true they probably would 349 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 5: because they they could have won. 350 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: That game against Pittsburgh. 351 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 5: And like the Browns here, they've been just excellent since 352 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 5: Freddie Kischens took over on offense. You know, Baker Mayfield's 353 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 5: net yards per attempt has skyrocketed, His yards per attempt 354 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 5: has skyrocketed. 355 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: He's getting it done. 356 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 5: They've been a lower volume offensive team overall, Like the 357 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 5: play volume is down over the last few games, So 358 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 5: I'm for both sides of the ball. 359 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: So they're allowing. 360 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 5: Fewer plays and they're and they're having fewer plays. So 361 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 5: I still like the Browns minus nine here. 362 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: I know it's been. 363 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 5: Bet up, but actually had it at nine myself. So 364 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 5: that's the I think that is the correct line. But 365 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 5: over under kind of tough, I don't. I just think 366 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 5: the Browns can put up a lot of points in 367 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 5: this spot. 368 00:16:59,360 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: You know. 369 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 5: Again, Baker Mayfield has been superb on you know, ten 370 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 5: point eight two yards for attempts against Carolina, nine point 371 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 5: two against Houston, nine point nine against Cincinnati, ten point 372 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 5: eight against Atlanta, six point zero against six point one 373 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 5: excuse me against Denver. But tough defense on the road. 374 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 5: So I'm expecting back at home for Baker Mayfield to 375 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 5: kind of get back to what he was doing over 376 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 5: those previous four games. And that's the only reason I'm 377 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 5: kind of shying away a little bit from the total, 378 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 5: because I think this could be a smash spot for 379 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 5: the Browns. 380 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I really like what I've seen out to Baker Mayfield, 381 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: Like he can he can play well enough in bad spots, 382 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 4: you know, and I think like that's kind of like 383 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: the hallmark of a good quarterback, you know, if he 384 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 4: can avoid those really bad games when lesser quarterbacks would 385 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 4: have bad games. And he's you know, obviously continuing to 386 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 4: improve in like how much do you love Freddy Kitchens? 387 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 4: Like I just like, I really like that guy. I 388 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 4: hope he gets a shot to stay his offensive coordinator, 389 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 4: or he gets a gig some other place. Whatever it is, like, 390 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 4: I want more Freddy kit in the league. 391 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: It's I love it. 392 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's funny how the pendulum keeps slinging as 393 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 5: far as you know, what was the brown issue. What's 394 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 5: obviously with the Browns issue is but you know, it 395 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 5: was like, okay, well, Sashi Brown should get a lot 396 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 5: of credit for what he did, and it's it's all 397 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 5: on you and the coaching. And then he get Kitchens 398 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 5: and now it's like he's doing even better, like he's 399 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 5: exceeding all expectations and making it look like, you know, 400 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 5: the coaching is. 401 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: The deciding factor. 402 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 5: But overall, I think the Browns organization as a whole, 403 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 5: it's just just in a great place right now. I mean, 404 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 5: you got may even if you don't make the playoffs, 405 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 5: I mean you got Mayfield going forward. 406 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: A lot of talent on off they have. They have 407 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: such a good collection of talent. 408 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 5: Now that Baker Mayfield is really spreading the ball around 409 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 5: a lot more. You know, Jarvis Landry for the last 410 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 5: six seven weeks, his target Shre's down to twenty one percent. 411 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: I mean it's hurt. 412 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 5: It sucks because it's kind of hurting a Joku too 413 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 5: for fantasy and even Landry, yeah those guys. But you know, 414 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 5: just from an NFL real life perspective, I think the 415 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 5: Browns are in a great spot. 416 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: From like the developmental perspective of a quarterback finding his 417 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: way in the league and playing this well as a rookie. 418 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 4: I don't care at all that he spreads it around, 419 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 4: like it's that's a very Drew Brees type of thing, 420 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 4: and like, I think it's a good sign that he's 421 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 4: spreading the ball around instead of just kind of focusing 422 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 4: on his one receiver or two receivers kind of to 423 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 4: the detriment of the team. And also like his own statistics. 424 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm with you. I'm taking Cleveland. I got 425 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 4: it at six and a half. I bet that right 426 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 4: away when I saw it, because I just I knew 427 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 4: that number was gonna I didn't think it was. 428 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: Gonna move to nine. 429 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 4: I mean I thought maybe like seven, but uh yeah, 430 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: I'd still take it at nine. 431 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that was definitely a good one. 432 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 5: When you you said you generally tend to jump on 433 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 5: lines immediately and then you kind of revise if you need. 434 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: To, yeah, later in the week. 435 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 5: Do you generally find that because I feel like as 436 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 5: the week progresses, what tends to happen is that, since 437 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 5: the public like favorites, favorites tend to get bet up. 438 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 5: So would you say that, like you tend to find 439 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 5: more value on favorites earlier in the week or does 440 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 5: it just kind of is it just a case by 441 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 5: case kind of thing. 442 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: That's a good question, to be honest. 443 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 4: I don't think I've been self reflective enough to be 444 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 4: able to say accurately where I've been successful on jumping 445 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 4: on lines early and when I haven't. Because there are 446 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 4: cases where like underdogs do see line movement. I just 447 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 4: don't know if I've been jumping on those teams or not. 448 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 4: But I think I have seen value normally. Where I 449 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: see the value is on the favorites, where I look 450 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: at a line and I think that's gonna move. 451 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 452 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 5: No, that makes sense, Yeah, because I you know, a 453 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 5: lot a lot of times what happens is like, you know, 454 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: because of the public. I believe it was something like 455 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 5: eighty percent of bets, you know, the public or something 456 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 5: like some high number, definitely more than fifty, like the 457 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 5: public bets on favorites, and so those lines tend to infleet. 458 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 5: But yeah, for Cincinnati, just real quick, because I feel 459 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 5: we didn't mention Cincinnati all the reason that I think 460 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 5: you and I both are bullish here on the Browns 461 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 5: beyond just their their offense and what they're doing on 462 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 5: that side of the ball against this Cincinnati defense that's 463 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 5: bottom five and DVOA, is that Cincinnati's real one advantage 464 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 5: in this game is not really an advantage per se, 465 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 5: because Nick Chubb has been great, but Joe Mixon and 466 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 5: that run game for cincinnt going against Cleveland's run defense, 467 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 5: which has not been very good. But that's just not 468 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 5: it's usually the run game just doesn't tend to impact 469 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 5: point differunt for that much. So you know, Cleveland twenty 470 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 5: third and run DVOA, but Cincinnati is going to have 471 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 5: to pass, convert third downs and things like that, and 472 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 5: Drisco throwing to you know, without even potentially tire Boyd. 473 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: That's just a real tough spot. 474 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Browns have been much better in pass 475 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 4: defense this year, especially with the addition. 476 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: Of Denzel Ward. 477 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 4: And then the maturation of Miles Garrett as a pass 478 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 4: rushing threat. Much better this year than they were last year. 479 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: I was talking about the Steelers at the Saints. This 480 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 4: is going to be a great game, at least I hope. 481 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 4: So for me, this is kind of the game of 482 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: the week. Saints favored by six, a fifty three point 483 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: over under, forty eight percent of the bets, sixty two 484 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 4: percent of the money is on the Steelers, seventy eight 485 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 4: percent of the money is on the over. The Steelers 486 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 4: are coming off of a win against the Patriots, but 487 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 4: they've lost three of their past four games. They're still 488 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 4: in danger of losing their place atop the division, even 489 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: of falling out of the playoffs. And then on the 490 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 4: other side, the Saints can lock up the number one 491 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 4: seed in the NFC with a win, and they have 492 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 4: won twelve of their last thirteen games. One news item here, 493 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 4: actually a couple of news items. We are recording this 494 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 4: on Thursday. It seems as if James Connor is likelier 495 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 4: than not to miss this game. He stole sideline and 496 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 4: practice and then, maybe even more importantly, there is a 497 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 4: report that Juju Smith Schuster popped up on the injury 498 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 4: report with a groin issue, so he was downgraded to limited. 499 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 4: So definitely keep an eye on that, and it might 500 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 4: be a situation. And in re draft leagues, if you're 501 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 4: depending on Juju's something, I don't know, you're desperate, maybe 502 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 4: you add Eli Rogers or James Washington or something like that. 503 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: But Chris, what are your thoughts on this game? 504 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 5: Well, okay, so just to start with on Juju if 505 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 5: for something, yeah, if something does go wrong, I didn't 506 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 5: research a couple of years ago. 507 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: I hope to update it with more recent data. 508 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 5: But I did like a looked at like seven eight 509 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 5: years of data at the time and found that wide 510 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 5: receivers that play after being on an injury report with 511 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 5: a growing issue about a seventeen percent decrease in PPR production. Now, 512 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 5: that's still relatively small sample, even though it's a lot 513 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 5: of years. It's forty nine games, so you can't put 514 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 5: too much stock into it, but probably a slight Downngrade, 515 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 5: even if he does play Eli Rodgers in his first 516 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 5: game back, kind of operated as that as that primary 517 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 5: third receiver in terms of targets. But James Washington snap 518 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 5: rate was up, so it's kind of a murky situation 519 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 5: at this point. As far as the game overall, you 520 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 5: got to start with the Saints and their defense. I mean, 521 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 5: the Saints defense has been just superb over over this 522 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 5: last six week stretch. They haven't allowed more than seventeen 523 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 5: points in a game over these last six weeks, and 524 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 5: that's just something that I don't think we've said about 525 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 5: the Saints in god knows how long. I know that 526 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 5: five game streak was. You had to go back to 527 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 5: two thousand and six, so it's been a minute. And 528 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 5: the Steelers played a low scoring game themselves with the 529 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 5: New England Patriots last week, a lot lower than I 530 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 5: know you and I. 531 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: Both thought it would be. 532 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 5: So I'm into the under in this game because I 533 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 5: think that, you know, make to the every day better. 534 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 5: I think these two teams still look like these offensive juggernauts, and. 535 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: They and they generally are. 536 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 5: But you know, now you got ju Ju popping up 537 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 5: on the injury reports, you got the Saints playing well 538 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 5: on defense, and you have Drew Brees and that offense 539 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 5: coming back down to earth a little bit. They're back 540 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 5: at home, so I do expect a lot better of 541 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 5: her performance than they had. 542 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: You know, going on the road to Carolina. 543 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 5: But this is still, you know, probably not quite as 544 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 5: explosive of an offense as we were sitting here talking 545 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 5: about it maybe a few weeks ago. Even Pittsburgh's kind 546 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 5: of been middle of the road defensively. There's sixteenth in EVA, 547 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 5: you know, number eight against the run, number twenty one 548 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 5: against the past, so they can definitely be exploited. But 549 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 5: you know, seeing New England score only ten ten points 550 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 5: against them last week was pretty eye opening to me. 551 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 5: So I think Pittsburgh's also kind of playing a little 552 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 5: better around defense, just like the Saints are. So I'm 553 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 5: I'm going to roll with the under in the game, 554 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 5: but I do think it should be a real exciting game. 555 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I am with you on a lot of 556 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 4: that logic. The one thing is like I just don't 557 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: want to take an under for the entire game at you. 558 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: Know, the Super Dome. 559 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 4: I just like, you know, I feel like I would 560 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 4: be like asking for trouble, just because like that's been 561 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 4: like the nut spot for taking the overs in the 562 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 4: Drew Brees era. It's like almost you just blindly bet it, 563 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 4: you know. I hear you though, on the defensive resurgence 564 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 4: that the Saints have had. They started out this season 565 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 4: in horrible fashion, giving up a lot of points, and 566 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 4: I think that's something that kind of stuck with people 567 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 4: just because that's what they saw at the very beginning 568 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 4: of the season. But like we should remember, like last 569 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: year that was a very good Saints defense, and then 570 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 4: if you kind of look past the first month, they 571 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 4: had struggles and then especially after they added Eli Apple 572 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 4: to the secondary, and it's hard to know kind of 573 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 4: exactly how much of an impact he's made. But like 574 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 4: with out question, this defense has gotten better recently and 575 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 4: they are number one in the league at eleven and 576 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 4: three when it comes to holding opponents under their team total. 577 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 4: And then we have on the other side of that 578 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 4: the Steelers on the road. You just hammer they're under 579 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 4: kind of no matter what. So like I'm I'm fine 580 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: with kind of putting those two things together and taking 581 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 4: under twenty three and a half for the Steelers just 582 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 4: not the same team that they are when they're in Pittsburgh. 583 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 4: Although this is a good spot, like historically playing in 584 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 4: the Superdome has been a good spot for visitors. I 585 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 4: just don't I'm kind of not buying that narrative as 586 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 4: much anymore, just because the SAME's defense has improved a lot. 587 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's kind of the same reason I'm on 588 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 5: the under for the game itself. I think a lot 589 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 5: of that those historical trends as far as the Saints 590 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 5: and the Superdome is because Drew Reed is such an 591 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 5: excellent quarterback, and you know, offense has always played better 592 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 5: at home, so he kind of puts the pressure on 593 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 5: teams to score even more. 594 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: And then their defense has just been pretty terrible for most. 595 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 5: Of that time, and so it sults in high scoring 596 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 5: gamess not quite the same situation. So yeah, I'm with you. 597 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 5: You know, it's tough with the Steelers. I think that's 598 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 5: actually a short play though, because again, the Saints haven't 599 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 5: given up. 600 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: They haven't given up more than seventeen in six weeks. 601 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 5: I mean, they played the falcon that's a pretty solid offense, 602 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 5: makes mistakes, but still a solid offense. They played the 603 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 5: Bucks in Tampa, they played the Cowboys. 604 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: No, none of those guys eclipsed seventeen. So not a 605 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: bad play. 606 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 5: But that's why I'm going to stick with the under 607 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 5: for the game, because I think this I don't see 608 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 5: the Saints just just blowing out the Steelers either. 609 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: At this point, I think they're kind. 610 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 5: Of going to run the ball and kind of control 611 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 5: the game and with this new style of play that 612 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 5: they have with it with this defense. 613 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's definitely fair. The one thing is that 614 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 4: if it worked out where the Saints just went off 615 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 4: for like forty points and then the Steelers, so they 616 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 4: basically like hit the over almost by themselves, and the 617 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 4: Steelers had only like seventeen points, It's not as if 618 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 4: I would hate myself and it'd be like, yeah. 619 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: You know, I should just take it the other on 620 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: the Steelers. 621 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 5: It's actually I saw interesting stat they posted on the 622 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 5: telecast of the last Saints game that they're just not 623 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 5: scoring points in the first quarter, And so I think 624 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 5: you mentioned it like you don't want to take it 625 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 5: for the whole game, So I think that actually might 626 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 5: be a short play to the first quarter under or 627 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 5: even the first half one. 628 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's that I think. Yeah, if 629 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 4: you were to do it for the game, I think 630 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 4: that's for both teams combined. I think that would be 631 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 4: the way to do it. Okay. The fifth game here 632 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 4: picked by the listeners Buccaneers at Cowboys Cowboys favored by 633 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 4: seven a forty seven point five over under. The Bucks 634 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 4: have lost six of their last eight games. The Cowboys 635 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 4: have won five of their last six, but they are 636 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 4: coming off of a shutout road loss to the Colts 637 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 4: and they need to win to keep their spot at 638 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 4: the top of the NFC East. Chris talk to me 639 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 4: about why I should hate the Cowboys. 640 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 5: Oh, man, yeah, you're just going because you're going back 641 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 5: and forth like crazy on these Cowboys. I remember it 642 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 5: was like a couple of weeks ago, you're really down. 643 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 5: Then you were saying, how last week you're really high 644 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 5: in them. 645 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: I have no read this team. 646 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 4: And I say that every week, and it's true, I 647 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 4: have no accurate read. Whatever I say about this Cowboys 648 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 4: team do the opposite. 649 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 5: So yeah, you know in this game that was definitely 650 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 5: since Amri, we always start there. They have improved. Their 651 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 5: net yards per attempt is up to six point two. 652 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 5: It's five point nine for the year, but six point 653 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 5: two with Amari Cooper, but that mark still is pretty 654 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 5: underwhelming when you consider Jameis Winsted, and even after kind 655 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 5: of coming back down to earth over the last few games, 656 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 5: his net yard per attempt is still six point eight, 657 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 5: and that's right in line with his career mark as well. 658 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 5: I also think that Tampa Bay's defense, particularly their past defense, 659 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 5: has been a bit better since they fired you know, 660 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 5: Mike Smith, the defensive coordinator. Anthony and Miko wrote a 661 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 5: great article about it's on Action Network dot com slash 662 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 5: NFL about how it was actually talking more about the 663 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 5: run game and how Ezekiel Elliott is going to have 664 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 5: an advantage because Tampa Bay has been essentially playing smaller, 665 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 5: getting out of base essentially on defense, going with more 666 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 5: and smaller linebackers and things of that sort to kind 667 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 5: of curtail opponents passing games. So I do think that 668 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 5: Dallas will continue to kind of be in that in 669 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 5: that same range with with you know that they've been 670 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 5: with with Dak and Amari here. 671 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: Obviously, you know, getting Zach Martin back would be would 672 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: be huge. 673 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 5: That offensive line was decimated against the Colts and that 674 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 5: contributed to the Black Wester performance. 675 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 2: But I think the fact that the Bucks still have 676 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: you know, you kind of. 677 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 5: Project the Bucks to still gain be more efficient as 678 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 5: a passing team, even though you kind of think of 679 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 5: think of it the opposite, because they've been so bad 680 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 5: on defense over the full year, I think you can 681 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 5: still project the Bucks to be more efficient. 682 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: Than the Cowboys passing. I think the Cowboys definitely. 683 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 5: Gonna have the advantage on the ground, but that's you know, 684 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 5: that's not quite as important as as the passing game. 685 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 5: And then I think it's the over under is tough 686 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 5: in this one because you know those dak Unders tend 687 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 5: to hit. But this this Bucks team, I mean, there's 688 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 5: so many factors in turn, like tile factors, because you 689 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 5: have Jamis still liable to revert, to turn the ball 690 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 5: over a lot, but you also have the Bucks that 691 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 5: can They'll go down the field with the football, so 692 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 5: they could put up points and we kind of so 693 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 5: happened in that Dallas Philly game. So I am going 694 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 5: to take the Bucks as a seven point dog. I 695 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 5: think it's a little much for when you have a 696 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 5: team that's a run first team, because if you look 697 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 5: at this season, Dallas has won by seven by more 698 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 5: than seven only twice, so six of their eight wins 699 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 5: have been my seven or less. But that also means 700 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 5: that twelve of their fourteen games have been They would 701 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 5: essentially do no worse, You do no worse than pushing 702 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 5: in it right twelve twelve to fourteen times, So I'd 703 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 5: still like the Bucks at this number. 704 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's too big. 705 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's hard to go wrong being 706 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: betting against Jason Garrett, for one. But let me let 707 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 4: me throw some statistics at you that are the most 708 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 4: disheartening I could find as a Cowboys fan. Okay, So, 709 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 4: although the Cowboys have been much better passing the ball 710 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 4: with Amari Cooper for the season and granted just seven 711 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 4: games on the splits with Cooper without Cooper, but for 712 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 4: the season, they have twenty points per game without him 713 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 4: and only nineteen point four points per game with him, 714 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 4: and on a per drive basis, they actually scored one 715 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 4: point eight six points without him and one point eighty 716 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 4: five points with him. They're accumulating more yards, but they 717 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 4: haven't become any more efficient at turning those yards into points. So, 718 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 4: like that is something that is still going to haunt 719 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 4: this team. I think their inability to convert yards into points, 720 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 4: And for me, like that is kind of like the 721 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 4: signal of coaching, you know, Like I think good coaches 722 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 4: can find a way to turn yards into points, and 723 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 4: bad coaches aren't quite as good at doing that. And 724 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 4: then I look at the Bucks since they fired Mike Smith, 725 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 4: and you mentioned Anthony Miko's article, a really good piece. 726 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 4: People should check that out at actionnetwork dot com slash NFL. 727 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: They have been much better in past defense. 728 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 4: They allowed seventy six point eight percent completion rate in 729 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 4: weeks one through six, only a sixty eight point eight 730 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 4: percent completion rate after that. And that's still a really 731 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 4: high completion rate, but the yardage discrepancy is huge. Three 732 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five point eight yards passing in weeks 733 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 4: one through eight, only two hundred and four point four 734 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 4: yards passing since then. So they they have gotten much 735 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 4: better defensively. It's not as if their defensive unit is 736 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 4: still actually all that good, but I think it's good enough, 737 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: and the Cowboys are inconsistent enough. 738 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: It's scoring points that I'm I'm fine with taking the 739 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: under here, under forty seven and a half. 740 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely fair. 741 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 5: You know, I think that that's the key here, is 742 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 5: that it's Tampa Bay's defense has been better. But you know, 743 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 5: I think the one thing about the stats the splits 744 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 5: with within without Amari, is that it really depends how 745 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 5: much weight you give to that shut out because it 746 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 5: kind of has the feel of an outlier, only because 747 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 5: you know, Zach Martin went down kind of in the 748 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 5: middle of the week. 749 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: I believe it was or something like that. 750 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 5: I forget what happened, but that could have just been 751 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 5: like one of those outliers. 752 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: It might get outlier. 753 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 4: But even if you factor out that game, they were 754 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 4: scoring only twenty two point seven points per game with Amari, 755 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 4: that's still not like a high total. And it's like, 756 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 4: you know, twenty two point seven versus twenty points without him, 757 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 4: that's not all that significant, you know what I mean? 758 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yeah, No, I totally agree with you it. I mean, 759 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 5: I think this is a game I actually like because 760 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 5: I do like that under the more and more I 761 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 5: think about it, and I love the spread as well 762 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 5: for Tampa Bay. 763 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, this is actually a game. I'll probably have 764 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: a lot of action on. 765 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: Okay, we have the two minute drill next. 766 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 4: Right after Josh Applebaum tells us which game the wise 767 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 4: guys are betting this. 768 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 3: Week, the money talks and action apple Bomb is all ears. 769 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 3: This is the Sharp Report. 770 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 6: NFL Week sixteen. We are traveling to South Beach for 771 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 6: a Florida Civil War between two disgusting teams, the Jacksonville 772 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 6: Jaguars and the Miami Dolphins. Recreational betters want nothing to 773 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 6: do with this game, but sharp betters are finding value 774 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 6: in the over under. This game opened with an extremely 775 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 6: low total of thirty nine and a half. Public betters 776 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 6: one mistake that they always make is just betting and 777 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 6: over because the total is low, or betting an under 778 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 6: just because the total is high. This is a spot 779 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 6: where with such a low total, the public says it 780 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 6: has to go over. However, sharps are buying low on 781 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 6: a contrarian sharp under in this spot. This total open 782 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 6: at thirty nine and a half, and even though sixty 783 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 6: percent of bets are going over, we've seen the total 784 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 6: fall from thirty nine and a half down to thirty 785 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 6: eight and a half or even thirty eight. 786 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 2: At some books. 787 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: What causes reverse line movement? 788 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 6: Sharp's getting down hard on the under, the unders only 789 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 6: getting forty three percent of bets but eighty five percent 790 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 6: of dollars. Clear indication here that the big sharp waigers 791 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,959 Speaker 6: from respected players are going under with average Joe's taking 792 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 6: a shot on the over. Using our sports Insights bet 793 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 6: signals You've also seen huge bet signals steaming reverse line 794 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 6: moves on the under. As soon as the line came out, 795 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 6: Sharps hit the under thirty nine and a half. At 796 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 6: three separate books, Sharps came back again on the under 797 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 6: thirty nine. This overload of sharp action caused that reverse 798 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 6: line movement with that total to fall. 799 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: Also, does it. 800 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 6: Hurt that you will have a little bit of wind 801 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 6: in this game. We're looking at win speeds crosswinds of 802 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 6: between eight and nine miles per hour. Wind always helps 803 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 6: an under and makes it hard to throw the ball. 804 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 6: A lot of running the ball, tuning up the clock. 805 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 6: And one cherry on top is that Jacksonville Jaguars and 806 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 6: Miami Dolphins are two of the slowest pace offenses in 807 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 6: the league, ranking twenty fourth and thirtieth in terms of pace. 808 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 6: This means they run the ball a lot, they use 809 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 6: up the play clock. Leads to a lot of unders. 810 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: Seven. 811 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 6: Though it's a super low total, Sharps still think it's 812 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 6: gonna go below. They'll be sweating that under in South 813 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 6: Beach in week sixteen. 814 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,479 Speaker 1: All Right, that was Josh. 815 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 4: Be sure to check out his article with the Sharp 816 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 4: Reports on the Action Network Chris, we are replacing the 817 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 4: two minute drill with a look at the Saturday slate 818 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 4: from a DFS perspective, but start at the quarterback position. 819 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 4: We have Philip Rivers versus three running quarterbacks. What are 820 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 4: you looking to do at the quarterback position? 821 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's tough because so Lamar Jackson, he has 822 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 5: the top projected plus minus in arminals, but he also 823 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 5: has the lowest floor. 824 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: It seems to be the case with him on a 825 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 2: weekly basis. 826 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 5: At this point, I do get it because I think 827 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 5: so Lamar has faced literally the five worst defenses in 828 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 5: terms of points allowed in the league and five of 829 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 5: the six worst defenses in terms of overall defensive DVOA 830 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 5: in the league. In those five games, the Ravens have 831 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 5: scored twenty five point six points per game against defenses. 832 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: That collectively allow twenty eight point five. 833 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 5: So they've been about three points under what you'd expect, 834 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 5: you know, given those defenses. 835 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 2: So I think this could be kind of a lower 836 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 2: another one of these lower scoring games. I don't I 837 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: don't love it. Although the Chargers. 838 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 5: Are they're weaker against the run than they are against 839 00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 5: the pass. 840 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 2: So I think that Baltimore will. 841 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 5: Still do what they do on the ground and probably 842 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 5: put up a lot of a lot of volume and 843 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 5: Lamar will be fine. But I think I think I 844 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 5: like Mariota the best you know in this in this spot, 845 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 5: just because that the Washington defense not not really that formidable. 846 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 5: Mariota runs a bit, so I think that's why you 847 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 5: like them over Rivers, especially against a defense like Baltimore. 848 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 5: And I just I really do worry about Lamar Jackson 849 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 5: and his efficiency. Not on running I think will be okay, 850 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 5: but you know, passing efficiency. You know, he's facing this 851 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 5: Chargers defense is just a lot better than than the 852 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 5: previous five he's faced, and if his passing efficiency is 853 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 5: already pretty bad, and so I think, if you know, 854 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 5: if this Chargers defense now is even better than what 855 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 5: he faced previously, that some of those you know, third 856 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 5: down conversions or whatnot, or plays that kept them ahead 857 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,479 Speaker 5: of the chains to where they could run so much 858 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 5: and stay on field might go away. And then it's 859 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 5: like Lamar can have about a rush volume, but potentially 860 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 5: not as many cracks that at the end zone as 861 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 5: you like. 862 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: So that I just worry that. 863 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 5: That that this could be kind of like a back 864 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 5: to Earth game for for Lamar and so yeah, I 865 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 5: think I think I'm leaning Mariota at this point. 866 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 2: But it's an ugly slate, man. 867 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 4: It really is, but you're gonna play Nevertheless, he's running backs. 868 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 4: Melvin Gordon, Derek Henry, Gus Edwards are some of the 869 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 4: guys kind of popping in our models and who can 870 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 4: have higher ownership? 871 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on these guys. 872 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 2: So Melvin Gordon, I still like him. 873 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,959 Speaker 5: I mean, I know it's it's a two game slate, 874 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 5: so it'd be different if this was a full slate. Obviously, 875 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 5: you know, going against a tough defense like the Baltimore 876 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 5: Ravens coming off. 877 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 2: A multi week injury. 878 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 5: Not not an ideal spot overall for Melvin Gordon in 879 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 5: terms of spots. But it's a two game slate, so 880 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 5: I think he's still you know, high, high steeling. 881 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 2: Is anyone else on the slate? 882 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 5: So I do like him as a play Derreck Henry 883 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 5: this this this seems like it's going to be another 884 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,280 Speaker 5: one of those Derek Henry games. Tennessee has just figured 885 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 5: out that, you know, that's how they that's how they 886 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 5: want to play in it. It looked for a minute 887 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 5: like Dion Lewis was was going to give them their 888 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 5: best shot and Henry was going to be the odd 889 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 5: man out, and Lewis just kind of fell off and 890 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 5: Henry stepped up. And now they've switched to a very 891 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 5: Henry centric offense. He got over thirty carries a week ago. 892 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 5: And this is another game. You know, they're favored, big, 893 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 5: low scoring a fair so it sets up for Henry 894 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 5: to get the rock. He has thirty touch upside again, 895 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 5: so I see why he's priced up, and I still 896 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 5: like him even even at that price. Gus Edwards is 897 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 5: I think you have the same concerns with Gus that 898 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 5: you have with Lamar Jackson. You know, Gus, he's essentially 899 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 5: one hundred percent reliance on rushing. He hasn't caught a 900 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 5: pass yet with Lamar Jackson under center, And so if 901 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 5: you know, against the Chargers, this could be a game 902 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 5: where the game script is not you know, the game 903 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 5: is not as in hand as it has been for 904 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 5: Baltimore or as close as it has been in these 905 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 5: other games against these poor defenses. So I think that 906 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 5: Gus Edwards could potentially kind of get scripted out. This 907 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 5: is the first real threat I think of Gus Edwards 908 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 5: getting scripted out of a game. We've also seen Baltimore 909 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 5: make more and more of a commitment to Kenneth Dixon 910 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 5: and getting him on the field. His snat ray has 911 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 5: been increasing these last couple of weeks. So Gus Edwards, 912 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 5: you know, tournaments obviously at that price you like them 913 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 5: for the for the projective volume, but I also think 914 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 5: that this is a lower floor spot for Edwards than 915 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 5: it has been these last few weeks. 916 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 4: Okay, wide receivers here, it's basically I think for two groups, 917 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 4: you have the good wide receivers aka the guys playing 918 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 4: for the Chargers, and then you have everyone else. But 919 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 4: so Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Tyrell Williams, how are you 920 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 4: distinguishing between them? 921 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 6: You know? 922 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 5: So this is the one where it's it's more when 923 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 5: you project the mic in Tyroll, they come out pretty close. 924 00:41:59,120 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: You know. 925 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 5: Mike usually gets the edge because he's a better touchdown 926 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 5: maker than Tyrell. Tyrell tends to go get a little 927 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 5: more downfield action and catches and whatnot. But Mike had 928 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 5: an amazing game coming off an amazing game, and those 929 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 5: things always give me pause when you're not talking about 930 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 5: like an Antonio Brown or a DeAndre Hoptman or somebody 931 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 5: like that. When you're talking about kind of a non 932 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 5: elite wide receiver coming off a huge game, what tends 933 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 5: to happen is that the defensive coordinator kind of looks 934 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 5: at that and say, hey, we can't let this. 935 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: You know that happen again. And so I. 936 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 5: Do worry a little bit, especially against a good defense 937 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 5: in the Baltimore Ravens that does have cornerbacks that can 938 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 5: you match up with these guys. So I think I 939 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,240 Speaker 5: weaned Tyrell in terms of in terms of the pendum 940 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 5: swinging towards him. Keenan Allen pretty iffy, but you know, 941 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 5: his volume projection is just so high that again on 942 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 5: a two game slate, you have to give him consideration. 943 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 2: Another guy like somewhat is Corey Davis. 944 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 5: You know, he's still a guy getting over thirty percent 945 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 5: of Titan's arears and you know, not a very pass 946 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 5: heavy game script. 947 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 2: So that's really the only thing you worry about. 948 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 5: But I do think that he could have some success 949 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 5: against this Washington secondary, you know, going against you know, 950 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 5: Josh Norman or whatnot. 951 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't really, I'm not really scared 952 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 2: of that secondary at all. 953 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 5: So I think Corey Davis, you know, I like Corey 954 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,399 Speaker 5: Davis as a pivot, especially in in tournaments. 955 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 4: All right, and then let's talk about these height ends. 956 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 4: It's it's disgusting here Vernon Davis, Antonio Gates, Anthony Ferksher, 957 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 4: and Mark Andrews. I mean, who would have thought, you know, 958 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 4: Antonio Gates might be the best option in any slate, 959 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 4: but that that actually might be the case. 960 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,439 Speaker 1: I don't know what are you doing here? 961 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 2: I don't even know. 962 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: I don't I close your eyes and lock a player 963 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: in right. 964 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 2: Pretty much is hammer one. 965 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 5: I mean, because so Vernon Davis really didn't actually see 966 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 5: playing really much of a playing time increase or a 967 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 5: target share increase without Jordan Reed in the last game. 968 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 5: And it's just, you know, the Redskins through twenty five 969 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 5: times last week. So it's just tough to kind of 970 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 5: get behind a team that spreads the ball around at such. 971 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 2: A whole volumes with Davis. 972 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 5: Then Mark Andrews has similar concerns for the Ravens, and 973 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 5: the Chargers are excellent at defending tight ends. Ferkser, he's 974 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 5: been hurt, I think by this new commitment to Derrick 975 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 5: Henry as well, because you're obviously going, you know, run 976 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 5: heavier and. 977 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: Look at Ferks. You know, he didn't even have a 978 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 2: catch spatsk. 979 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 5: He did play kind of his usual third of the 980 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 5: snaps or so, but did not have a catch. And 981 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 5: we saw Luke Stocker, the other tight end, get a 982 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 5: playing time increase, as did Michael Pruitt. And so I 983 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 5: think this is at this point, if Tennessee is not 984 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 5: in comeback mode, which they don't project to be, there 985 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 5: their ten point ten and a half point favorites over 986 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 5: the Redskins. 987 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 2: I don't think Ferks really has a lot of upside because. 988 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 5: He's just not he's kind of a receiving specialist, and 989 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,240 Speaker 5: so yeah, that kind of leaves you with Antonio Gates. 990 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 5: Is just the Ravens tend to be the weakest against 991 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 5: tight ends because again they do have Arln Humphrey, Jimmy Smith. 992 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 5: You know, they have cornerbacks that they that they can 993 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 5: match up with, and defenses tend to target the or 994 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 5: just have the most success with the tight end, you know, 995 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 5: targeting tight ends against Baltimore. Baltimore is top seven in 996 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 5: all against all positions, number one two and other wide 997 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 5: receivers and running backs, but they are twenty seventh in 998 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 5: DVOA against tight ends, so that that just kind of 999 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 5: leaves you with gates by default. But it's it's I mean, 1000 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 5: it's ugly, okay. 1001 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 4: Coming up is our third and long segment on lineup 1002 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 4: building and slave strategy. Right after we checking with Johnny 1003 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 4: Eween for some trem based sports betting insights. 1004 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 3: Good data is always in fashion. Here's John Ewing with 1005 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 3: trend of the week. 1006 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 7: The Seattle Seahawks are eight and six but have outscored 1007 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 7: their opponents by seventy one points, which is the same 1008 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 7: point differential as the ten and four Texans. By Pythagorean 1009 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 7: plus minus, which accounts for the points a team has 1010 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 7: scored and allowed. The Seahawk underperforming and late in the year, 1011 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 7: it has been profitable to bet on these teams. Since 1012 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 7: two thousand and three, teams with the winning record and 1013 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 7: at positive Puthagreen plus minus like the Seahawks have gone 1014 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 7: one hundred and seventy six and one thirty nine. That's 1015 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 7: a fifty six percent win rate against the spread in 1016 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 7: December or later in the season. It's not just the 1017 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 7: trends at point to value on Seattle. Either the Action 1018 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 7: Network power rankings make the Seahawks a half point underdog 1019 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,280 Speaker 7: and the NFL simulations have the Seahawks winning on average 1020 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 7: by one point four points. Seattle is currently a two 1021 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 7: and a half point underdog at home to the Kansas 1022 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 7: City Chiefs. I'm gonna wait until Sunday to place this bet, 1023 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,399 Speaker 7: hoping to get the key number of three. 1024 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:39,399 Speaker 1: All right, that was John. 1025 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 4: Be sure to check out his sports betting articles each 1026 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 4: week at the Action Network, Chris Third and Long. Let's 1027 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 4: look at this slate specifically, let's look at the highest 1028 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 4: owned players in our models, think about who we want 1029 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 4: a roster, who we might pivot away from, and who 1030 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,919 Speaker 4: we might pivot too. Let's start at quarterback. Andrew Locke 1031 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 4: right now is looking like the highest projected passer on 1032 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 4: the slate. He's a home favorite against the Giants, a 1033 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,240 Speaker 4: good spot for him historically as a home favorite. 1034 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on him? 1035 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a good spot for luck, you know, 1036 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 5: I think we talked about it a couple of weeks ago. 1037 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 5: The one thing about the coaches, they're excellent in situational football, 1038 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 5: and so every once in a while you will get 1039 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 5: a dud out of Luck, just because if they're not 1040 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 5: converting third downs or they don't you know, the kind 1041 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 5: of swings to the running game in the red zone 1042 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 5: or something like that, he can lose some of his value. 1043 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,320 Speaker 5: He's putting up crazy touchdown numbers for most of the season. 1044 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 5: But I do love the spot for him at home 1045 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 5: against the Giants. His number one wide receiver t Y Hilton, 1046 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 5: has a great matchup. The Giants rank dead last in 1047 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 5: DV away against number one receivers, and we know Ty 1048 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 5: always gets a bump at home, just produces better in 1049 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 5: that dome on. 1050 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 2: That fast truck. So I love the matter for Luck. 1051 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 5: I think that definitely going to be a core cash 1052 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 5: cash game option for me. You know, Nick Foles is 1053 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 5: the only quarterback on draft teams with the higher project 1054 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 5: did plus minus down there at forty seven hundred. You know, 1055 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 5: I think you can He's so cheap that you can 1056 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 5: probably get away with it. 1057 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 2: Don't love him again just because I think that this 1058 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 2: could be a. 1059 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 5: Lower scoring game, But those those are the two top 1060 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 5: guys in our models, and I'm pretty much in lockstep 1061 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 5: with that. 1062 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1063 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 4: Another guy who's projected for high ownership is Drew Brees. 1064 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 4: And you know, we talked about this game earlier. It's 1065 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,280 Speaker 4: kind of hard to know how to approach it given 1066 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,919 Speaker 4: that the Saints since market Ingram returned, and then also 1067 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 4: since this defense is really toughened up, they have really 1068 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 4: skewed towards the run, and that is seriously impacted the 1069 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 4: number of attempts per game that Drew Brees is getting. 1070 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 4: What are you doing with this game or with with 1071 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 4: Drew Brees. 1072 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think you can play Drew Brees in 1073 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 5: cash games right now. 1074 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 2: I know that he has. 1075 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 5: You know, some people will point to the home roads 1076 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 5: with and I think those, you know, those are obviously important. 1077 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 5: I think they'll definitely play better at home, because every 1078 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 5: NFL team essentially you know, over the long term, will 1079 00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,919 Speaker 5: play better at home. 1080 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 2: But I mean, you hit it. 1081 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 5: It's the pass attempts have not been there twenty nine 1082 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 5: point four over the last ten games with mark Ingram 1083 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 5: compared to forty point eight in their first four games. 1084 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 5: And so you know what's really jumped up is that 1085 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,919 Speaker 5: running volume thirty three run attempts per game over those 1086 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 5: last ten games with Ingram versus twenty three point eight 1087 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,959 Speaker 5: before win Ingram was still on suspension. So the one 1088 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 5: thing I think is that that the slow starts it's 1089 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 5: become you know, Sean Payton is aware of it. They 1090 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 5: the media has been interviewing him and asking him about it. 1091 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 5: I almost wonder if back at home they are a 1092 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 5: little bit more aggressive here. So I do think that, 1093 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,280 Speaker 5: you know, from that angle, if you're looking for an angle 1094 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 5: to play Breeze, that that could be it. But I 1095 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 5: still think you want to leave them for tournaments because 1096 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 5: I mean, twenty nine point four pass attempts per game, 1097 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 5: you have to be incredibly efficient to you know, return 1098 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 5: value with that projected volume. And we saw the Steelers 1099 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 5: kind of keep keep Tom Brady with a full arsenal 1100 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 5: weapons down last week. Granted that was in Pittsburgh, But 1101 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 5: I do have concerns about Breeze for cash. 1102 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 2: I would I would, I wait, I wouldn't do it. 1103 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: Okay, running Backs Ezekiel Elliott. He's he's the. 1104 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 4: Main guy really popping in our models, and I think 1105 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 4: I should mention that he's also standing out in our rankings, 1106 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,720 Speaker 4: which you can find those of course at actionnetwork dot com. 1107 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: Slash Fantasy. Ezekiel Elliott. 1108 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 4: We talked about him, great spot for him as a 1109 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 4: home favorite going against the Bucks. And again check out 1110 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 4: Anthony Miko's article where he really highlights that matchup between 1111 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 4: Ezekiel Elliott and the Bucks run defense. Chris, what are 1112 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:38,760 Speaker 4: you doing with Ezekiel Elliott? 1113 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 5: A lot of these weeks lately, there's been value at 1114 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 5: the wide receiver position, and that's kind of helped you 1115 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 5: to jam in you know, running backs. If he's so 1116 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 5: true Now it doesn't always work out, AKA look at 1117 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 5: sa Kwon Barkley last week, but I do think Zeke 1118 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 5: is a guy that's given this matchup, you do want 1119 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 5: to to jam in, you know, Cowboys in a month 1120 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 5: win spot, and I think when you go back to 1121 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 5: what you do best in those kinds of situations, and 1122 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 5: I think they will feed him the ball and the 1123 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 5: matchup is there. Also love Christian McCaffrey, even without Cam 1124 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 5: Newton as a quarterback for the Panthers, because I think 1125 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 5: McCaffrey's the one guy that's still gonna get He's gonna 1126 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 5: get as much as much action as he as he 1127 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 5: can take. You know, like they're going to just I 1128 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 5: mean whether it's handoffs, you know, targets, it really doesn't 1129 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 5: make sense for the Panthers to do anything but give 1130 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 5: Christian mccallarry as McCaffrey, excuse me, as many touches as 1131 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 5: they possibly can. And he's already been that guy, I 1132 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 5: mean playing every snap essentially going back with he won two, three, four, 1133 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 5: five five the. 1134 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 2: Last five games. Christian mccaffy's played every snap. So those two. 1135 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 5: Guys are definitely the priorities for me this week, probably 1136 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 5: you know, over Todd Gurley, just because Gurley popping up 1137 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 5: on the injury report mentioned that the Rams offense a 1138 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 5: little less efficient without Cooper Cook, Garrett Goff. Yard per 1139 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,720 Speaker 5: attempt is down, as I tweeted out the other day, 1140 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 5: and so you know, Gurley really feasts because he scored 1141 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 5: a ton of touchdowns, and with the Rams offense not 1142 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 5: producing optimally, then you know that kind of lowers his 1143 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 5: touchdown production a bit. And also you know Groley not 1144 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 5: catching quite as many passes this year either, And so 1145 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 5: I think Zeke and McCaffrey or my my clearcut top two, 1146 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 5: and then you have you know, Barkley, and Barkley's at 1147 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 5: a really good price seventy nine hundred on draftings, so 1148 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 5: you're you're always going to look at him at that price, 1149 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 5: but grow he is. 1150 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 2: The guy that probably an odd man out keep him 1151 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:34,720 Speaker 2: for tournaments. 1152 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 4: This week, Yeah, Christian McCarey was a great slip because 1153 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 4: I think he will be Christian McCarey. And then he's 1154 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 4: going against the Falcons, who you know, like we know this, 1155 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 4: it's just the trend, like they hemorrhage receptions to running backs. 1156 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 4: In Week two, I believe when they played, he had 1157 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 4: fourteen receptions for over one hundred yards, So a great 1158 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 4: spot for him. Obviously, he's probably not going to see 1159 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 4: that type of usage again, but we should expect still 1160 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 4: to see him heavily used both as a runner and 1161 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,439 Speaker 4: as a receiver, so a good all around spot for him. 1162 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 4: Let's talk about the wide receivers. Julian Edelman. We are 1163 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 4: projecting him now for higher ownership with Josh Gordon no 1164 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,280 Speaker 4: longer playing football, so what are you doing with Julian Edelman. 1165 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 5: I mean he's been even with Gordon in a lineup 1166 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 5: Julian Edelman and grand here for much of the time 1167 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 5: as well. 1168 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 2: You know, Julian Edelman has still been. 1169 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 5: That go to guy for Tom Brady as you would expect, 1170 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 5: so I see no problem with playing him in cash. 1171 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 5: The builds that I end up on may feature to 1172 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,319 Speaker 5: those stud running backs and that would be the only 1173 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 5: reason I would probably end up not playing Edelman. But 1174 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,879 Speaker 5: if I go with a more balanced approach, I think 1175 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 5: Edelman is definitely at the top of the list as 1176 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 5: far as guys that you want to play in cash 1177 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 5: is because of the floor. I mean, the floor is 1178 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 5: really high, and you know that's not the case for 1179 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 5: a lot of these other guys. 1180 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 2: He's got the top the. 1181 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 5: Sixth best floor in our models, seventy two hundred. That's 1182 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,240 Speaker 5: a that's a pretty good price for that. So like 1183 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 5: like Edelman a lot this week if you're going with 1184 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 5: the receiver in that price range. 1185 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 4: Okay, you mentioned t Y Hilton earlier when talking about 1186 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,800 Speaker 4: Andrew Locke. Good spot for him as a home favorite 1187 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 4: going against the Giants who have been historically weak or 1188 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 4: this season at least against number one wide receivers. And 1189 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 4: then Julio Jones at Carolina as someone we're projecting for 1190 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 4: high ownership, how are you approaching them? 1191 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 5: Well, the only thing with tbot so right now he's 1192 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 5: on he's on an injury report. Did not practice right Thursday. 1193 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 5: I think he's not one hundred percent healthy. He's still 1194 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 5: great matchup for him, but I just prefer to leave 1195 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 5: him for tournaments just because of you know, that kind 1196 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 5: of uncertainty. 1197 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 2: See any real reason to take that risk in cash games. Yeah, 1198 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 2: and then. 1199 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 5: Julio Jones, he's another guy in the injury report. I 1200 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 5: think he should He's fine though as far as as 1201 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:59,320 Speaker 5: far as we know, he historically has dominated Carolina. However, 1202 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 5: the one thing that's interesting is touched on this a 1203 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 5: little bit with Ian previewing the Saints game last week 1204 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 5: on the On the Monday Pod. But Panthers are number 1205 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,839 Speaker 5: four in DVO against number one wide receivers and their 1206 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 5: number thirty one against number two receivers. 1207 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 2: So usually the number one guy has not been the 1208 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 2: guy to go off. 1209 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 5: We kind of saw them hold Michael Thomas and check 1210 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 5: last week where you getting. I think it was seven 1211 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 5: catches forty nine yards for Thomas, So you know, you 1212 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 5: worry a little bit about Julio. 1213 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I. 1214 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 5: Mean, Julio has been a monster all season long, so 1215 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 5: I don't I don't hate the play. I think I'm 1216 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 5: going to restrict him to tournaments though, just because of 1217 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 5: you know, Ron Rivera's kind of taken over this defense. 1218 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 2: They could be doing different things. 1219 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 5: I mean they so we know they might, you know, 1220 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 5: triple teamers and just another one of those things that 1221 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 5: in cash games. I don't I don't feel like, you know, 1222 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 5: he's so expensive that I don't feel like you really 1223 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 5: need to end up there at wide receiver in this 1224 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 5: kind of week when you have you know, three three 1225 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 5: fourth stud running back that essentially will have higher floors 1226 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 5: just because of the position they play. 1227 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about tight ends. 1228 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 4: There are four guys who are projecting to have elevated 1229 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,439 Speaker 4: ownership relative to the rest of the field, Zach Ertz, 1230 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 4: George Kittle, and then Eric Ebron and Evan Ingram going 1231 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 4: against each other and what I am calling the E 1232 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 4: squared squared matchup. How are you distinguishing between these four guys. 1233 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,720 Speaker 5: Well, you know, tight end tends to be a position 1234 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 5: where you want to pay down. So from that perspective, 1235 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,479 Speaker 5: I think Ingram would be the guy. Because it looks 1236 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 5: like Odell Beckham's going to miss another game. Some of 1237 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 5: the other Giants receivers popping up on the injury report 1238 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:41,959 Speaker 5: as well. 1239 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 2: Ingram has been a lot more. 1240 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 5: Involved over since coming back, well, since Beckham really had 1241 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 5: started to miss games. You know, he wasn't that involved 1242 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,720 Speaker 5: earlier in the season as you might expect, But now 1243 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 5: he's coming on strong, and I think he's in a 1244 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 5: good spot, so I leaned toward him. 1245 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 2: But from a projection standpoint, I think. 1246 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 5: There are there is more value on the most value 1247 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 5: on Earth because you know he's sitting here at fifty 1248 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 5: nine hundred, and that his projected plus minus is in 1249 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 5: our models on Fantasy Labs dot com slash NFL, then 1250 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 5: it's it's point. 1251 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 2: And a half more than any other tight end on 1252 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 2: the slate. 1253 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 5: So I actually probably will end up with earths and 1254 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 5: Ingram mixed, but actually more ERTs because as I've been 1255 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 5: talking about in the breakdowns that I do over at labs, 1256 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 5: weitly you know, you can kind of use our projections, 1257 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 5: you know, whether it's projected plus minus and then projected 1258 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 5: points per dollar. We have you know, all of it 1259 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 5: in our database with the trends tool, and you can 1260 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 5: kind of use it to tier players and find where 1261 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 5: the distinctions why, and. 1262 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 2: You know, when you have a guy with that much separation. 1263 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 5: In those in those projects and that projected point per 1264 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 5: dollar and projective plus minus. 1265 00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 2: At tight end, especially on Draftking. 1266 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 5: They just have such elevated consistency relative to kind of 1267 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 5: the tier under them that Erch really stands out here 1268 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 5: as a smash play. 1269 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 4: Okay, we're going to close out the show with our 1270 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 4: fourth and Goal segment previewing Sunday Night Football. But first 1271 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 4: let's kick it in. Hart It who runs through the 1272 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 4: key week sixteen coverage situations. 1273 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 3: The press, the jam, and the five yard bump. Ian 1274 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 3: Harten springs you dance of the divas. 1275 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 8: The first key wide receiver cornerback shadow match, but Week 1276 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 8: sixteen is Corey Davis for Josh Norman. It's a winnable 1277 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 8: matchup for Davis because of Washington's zone heavy scheme, but 1278 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 8: Taiwan Taylor is actually out targeted the titans number one 1279 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 8: receiver over the last three weeks. Stefan Diggs will face 1280 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 8: off at Darius Slave. Diggs has historically warm this matchup, 1281 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 8: but volume could be a concern after Kirk Cousins through 1282 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 8: a season low twenty one passes last week and his 1283 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 8: first game from the offensive coordinator. Kenny Galladay will take 1284 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 8: on Xavier Rhoads. Galladay defeated Tredaevius White last week and 1285 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 8: has now gained at least ninety yards and or scored 1286 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 8: a touchdown in nine of eleven games with more than 1287 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 8: five targets. But Xavier Road is a big bodied beast 1288 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 8: plenty capable of shutting down any receiver in the league. 1289 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 8: Jay Jones or Stefan Gilmour, maybe the Patriots won't even 1290 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 8: bother with this, but Gilmour did shadow Jones last season 1291 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 8: with Covien Benjamin sidelined, and former Patriots defensive coordinator Matt 1292 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 8: Patricia used Darius Slater's shadow Jones as opposed to Robert 1293 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 8: Foster in Week fifteen. Julio Jones will face off with 1294 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 8: James Bradberry. Julio's banged up with ribs and hip injuries, 1295 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 8: but he's set up pretty well against the Panthers' twenty 1296 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 8: eighth ranked defense and passed Dvay. He's been playing successful 1297 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 8: against them since they traded Josh Norman, including that three 1298 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 8: hundred yard game partially at the hands of Bradbury. Antonio 1299 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 8: Brown will face off with Marshawn Lottimore. Saints have run 1300 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 8: some different shadow schemes over the year, but Latimore and 1301 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 8: Apple haven't moved into the slot under any circumstances hardly 1302 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,919 Speaker 8: Simon's Jujus Smith Schuster should run most of those routes 1303 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 8: against liability. 1304 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: PJ. 1305 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 8: Williams. Michael Thomas will face off with Joe Hayden, Thomas's 1306 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 8: matchup proof at home, but we have I seen Hayden 1307 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 8: really kind of win matchups against Hopkins, Julio, AJ Green, 1308 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 8: et cetera over the years. My favorite matchup of the 1309 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,920 Speaker 8: week is t Y Hilton. Make sure you monts are 1310 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 8: a week sixteen injury report to make sure his ankle 1311 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 8: is okay. We got Andrew Luckx, number one receiver facing 1312 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 8: the Giants number thirty two rank defense in DVOA versus 1313 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 8: number one receivers at home. Hilton has averaged eighty five 1314 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 8: point four yards and zero point four to seven touchdowns 1315 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 8: per game indors in his career, compared to just sixty 1316 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 8: one yards and zero point two to eight touchdowns per 1317 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 8: game outdoors. 1318 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 1: All right, that was ian. 1319 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 4: Be sure to check out his wide receiver cornerback matchup 1320 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,960 Speaker 4: column at the Action Network. Chris Sunday Night Football the 1321 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 4: Chiefs at the Seahawks. Chiefs favored by two and a 1322 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 4: half a fifty three point five over under. The super 1323 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 4: majority of the money is on the Chiefs over ninety 1324 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 4: percent of the money is on the over. The Chiefs 1325 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 4: are coming off of a last second Thursday Night football 1326 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 4: lost to the Chargers, but they are still slated for 1327 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 4: the number one seed in the AFC. They need a 1328 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 4: win to stay ahead of the Chargers. The Seahawks are 1329 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 4: eight and six. They're looking to lock in their playoff 1330 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,200 Speaker 4: spot with a win. They had a tough overtime road 1331 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 4: loss to the forty nine ers last week, but they 1332 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 4: have won four of their past five games. How are 1333 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 4: you approaching this? 1334 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 5: So, you know, Seattle coming off lost to a clearly 1335 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 5: better team in the San Francisco forty nine Ers discussed. 1336 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: Discuss no, but you. 1337 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 5: Know, seriously, now that kind of speaks to my concerns 1338 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 5: about Seattle in general, was that this team is a 1339 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 5: team that very reliant on Russell Wilson still, even though 1340 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 5: it kind of seems like, hey, they're running the ball more. 1341 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 5: That's kind of been the key for them, and it has. 1342 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, this is a 1343 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 5: team that's not quite i think, as good as public perception. 1344 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 5: They're just they just have a really really good quarterback 1345 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 5: and that's always going to help a ton in their 1346 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 5: run game. Obviously has excellent Chris Carson love him in 1347 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 5: all formats of Fantasy, DFS, props, whatever it is. 1348 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 2: This weekend, I think he's matches. 1349 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 5: But just in terms of Seattle, so on offense, you know, 1350 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 5: first downs per play very predictive when it comes to 1351 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 5: predicted looking at point differential and you know the correlation, 1352 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 5: it's point six. 1353 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so point six. 1354 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,960 Speaker 5: So so like that's a very high correlation in terms 1355 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 5: of point differential. And so Seattle's only eighteenth in first 1356 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 5: downs per play on offense, and that's because they run 1357 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 5: the ball. But against a team like the Chiefs, you're 1358 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 5: a little concerned about that. And the same thing with 1359 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 5: them going against San Francisco, where San Francisco was actually superior. 1360 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 5: They were up there at ninth in that same metric. 1361 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 5: Kansas City is number one in that matchric. And so 1362 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 5: I think that Seattle, you know they'll be able to 1363 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 5: run the ball and have a lot of success because 1364 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 5: Kansas City's defensive weakness is the run game. But we 1365 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 5: also know that Kansas City is going to be able 1366 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 5: to put up points. I don't think that's any question, 1367 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 5: and I just think that it's a little too much 1368 01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 5: for Seattle to hang with them and ultimately pull out 1369 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 5: the victory. So I like Kansas City at the two 1370 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 5: point five. I think it should be three. Probably some 1371 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 5: sharps disagree because it hasn't moved to three yet even 1372 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 5: though there has been a lot of action on Kansas City. 1373 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 2: But I'm going with Casey here. 1374 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 5: I think they just have an advantage, you know, on 1375 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 5: offense overall against Seattle. 1376 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 4: Okay, I agree with a lot of what you said, 1377 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 4: but I'm having trouble taking Kansas City on the road 1378 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 4: in this spot. I don't want to bet against the 1379 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 4: Seahawks in Seattle. I just kind of don't want to 1380 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,919 Speaker 4: do it. But at the same time, I don't really 1381 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 4: want to take them if it's just two and a half, 1382 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, I want to take 1383 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 4: them if it's plus three. But I do feel confident 1384 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 4: because of what you mentioned that Kansas City is vulnerable 1385 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,440 Speaker 4: against the run and that is where Seattle is at 1386 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 4: its best, or at least what they are fully committed to. 1387 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 4: I do think Seattle will be able to score points 1388 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 4: against Kansas City's defense. So I'm I'm taking Seattle over 1389 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 4: twenty six, but I do think this game could go 1390 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 4: over by Kansas City scoring a lot of points too. 1391 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 1: I just it's it's. 1392 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 4: A situation where I could see it being a tight 1393 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,480 Speaker 4: game either way, and I kind of don't want to 1394 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 4: have to pick a side on that, but I do 1395 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 4: feel as if San Francisco, sorry now San Francisco. 1396 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they are in my head. 1397 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 4: I think as if Seattle should be able to to 1398 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 4: put up twenty six points. 1399 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. 1400 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 5: I mean i'd probably, I'd probably go with the with 1401 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 5: the over in this game, so you don't. You don't 1402 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 5: love to do it when with such a run heavy 1403 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 5: team like Seattle. But we've seen them, you know, in 1404 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 5: games against the rams A. I think it was a 1405 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 5: thirty three to thirty one game. So we've seen them 1406 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 5: against premier offenses end up in these higher scoring shootouts. 1407 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 2: So I think I'm fine with you know, playing that 1408 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 2: as well. 1409 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you mentioned earlier Chris Carson uh and looking 1410 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 4: at his props, I totally agree with that. 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Be sure to rate, review, 1429 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 4: and subscribe for all of our upcoming episodes. For Chris Raymond, 1430 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 4: I'm Matthew Freeman, Mattithiel Workle, see again next episode, and 1431 01:05:51,360 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 4: Happy holidays. 1432 01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 2: St