Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealer's podcast with your hosts now fuck That with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses Malone So most death. Oh yes, right, So
Speaker 1: I had this conversation probably like I don't know two
Speaker 1: three years ago, but it resurfaced on the Breakfast Club
Speaker 1: last year. Yes, me and Charlottagne and Mby was talking
Speaker 1: about it, and it was the same thing about why
Speaker 1: Drake isn't hip hop?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: I see what happened, bro, It's been like so much
Speaker 1: shit about It's been so much shit people confuse rap
Speaker 1: and hip hop. So you have people screaming like, oh
Speaker 1: Drake can rap, and I'm like, rap is the mainstream
Speaker 1: delivery system, you know, of music entertainment at this point,
Speaker 1: Like Madonna can't see medium.
Speaker 2: Hip hop is the content so to speak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Madonna can't sing, but the way you made
Speaker 1: music at that time, you you singing, right, So she
Speaker 1: might have kind of interpreted funk in her own way, right,
Speaker 1: she might interpreted funk in her own way, or you know,
Speaker 1: R and B in her own way, but that don't
Speaker 1: mean Madonna is an R and B artist. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I'm starting to understand the problem people hear Drake rap,
Speaker 1: so they're like, oh, anybody who rap is hip hop?
Speaker 1: If you rap, your hip hop, And it's like, so
Speaker 1: you're behind on the A ball because you're not looking
Speaker 1: at rap as you know, the delivery system that has
Speaker 1: went pop to the fact that like Mighty Cyrus has
Speaker 1: a fucking album.
Speaker 3: It's like saying fred Durst back of that what was
Speaker 3: that rock group he had like in the turn of
Speaker 3: the millennium, Like he was hip hop because he rapped
Speaker 3: the verses.
Speaker 2: On the metal band.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great point, and or like saying or like saying, uh,
Speaker 1: Debbie Harry from Blondie is a hip hop artist because
Speaker 1: she rapped on raptor.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 1: So it's this weird space that's happening. And I think
Speaker 1: because anytime they hear some fucking body rap, rap is
Speaker 1: the new way to say nigga. Straight up. Rap is
Speaker 1: the new way to say nigga. He's a rapper. Now,
Speaker 1: Drake is a rapper. Drake does make rap songs. But
Speaker 1: if you go to the the beginning of hip hop,
Speaker 1: bro hip hop is culture. Hip hop is the like
Speaker 1: one of the earliest genres to lead with culture before music.
Speaker 3: I got one for you, Okay, Drake is in hip
Speaker 3: hop the equivalent to an atheist gospel singer.
Speaker 1: Atheist gospel singer. Oh man, that's funny, but no, hokuh so,
Speaker 1: I get it. You're a sick nigga, bro, You're for sure.
Speaker 1: You said hold up, hold up? Uh Ali? Send me
Speaker 1: your ali, uh uh ali? What's your email? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: send you a link for But the long story short,
Speaker 1: hip hop is culturally. It's a presentation of culture, sure,
Speaker 1: through rapping, through graffiti, through djaying, through you know, the
Speaker 1: elements that niggas keep thinking hip.
Speaker 2: Hop, break breakdance into seawalking dancing.
Speaker 1: Right, it's a presentation of culture through these arts. Sure,
Speaker 1: you don't learn how to break dance. Breakdance has some structure,
Speaker 1: but it's really a natural thing based off of where
Speaker 1: you grew up. The way people break in the Bronx
Speaker 1: is different than the way people break in La.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What how you wrap in New York is different than
Speaker 1: how you rap in Los Angeles or how you wrap
Speaker 1: in Saint Louis. And what makes Drake a pop artist
Speaker 1: is literally he just raps, like whichever of these cultures
Speaker 1: he emulating, Yeah, whichever these cultures he's emulating that's what
Speaker 1: he does. Sure, Sure, hip hop is street urban culture
Speaker 1: presented through the arts, the arts that hip hop created
Speaker 1: the aspects of how they express New York. Shout out
Speaker 1: to the Bronx niggas for how they created the way
Speaker 1: it is delivered through the arts. But it's street urban culture. Sure.
Speaker 1: And it's like why people don't get it.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of you know, I would argue
Speaker 3: for right or for wrong, and I'll probably catch them
Speaker 3: flag for it.
Speaker 2: And it's not because I'm white.
Speaker 3: It's just coincidental for the conversation that like Paul wall
Speaker 3: is maybe a little bit more hip hop than actually
Speaker 3: is Drake.
Speaker 1: Sure, Sure that, like Eminem right, because it is street
Speaker 1: urban culture. It is street urban culture. And like I've
Speaker 1: had this conversation a million times, people fighting, oh man, god, this,
Speaker 1: that and the third. It doesn't mean Drake is not tight.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean Drake is not a rapper. That's not
Speaker 1: what it means. It doesn't mean Drake doesn't have dope raps.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean Drake doesn't have dope sixteens. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean Drake doesn't respect really great hip hop artists. But
Speaker 1: he himself is not a hip hop artist. He is
Speaker 1: not a presentation of culture. And what makes him a
Speaker 1: pop artist is he's an emulation of culture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like he'll.
Speaker 3: It's it's like in you know, a couple of these
Speaker 3: books that have read, they define information as surprised. You know,
Speaker 3: like I've said to you if you if I tell
Speaker 3: you something you already know, you're not getting any information.
Speaker 3: Sure and kind of in that sense, Drake can only
Speaker 3: as you were saying, like he can own you. Drake
Speaker 3: will never bring new culture to the game. It will
Speaker 3: never happen. There are a lot of other rappers and
Speaker 3: hip hop that have and can do that. Drake will
Speaker 3: never unveil a new element of urban culture through one
Speaker 3: of his songs as him being the absolute like patient zero,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Nor does he even represent other cultural occurrences based off
Speaker 1: Toronto Street urban culture. Not even based off Toronto Street
Speaker 1: urban culture, like the Toronto Street niggas I know, bro,
Speaker 1: are not like Drake. They don't talk like Drake, they
Speaker 1: don't act like Drake. The one thing that makes hip
Speaker 1: hop fantastic, Bro, and this is really a hardcore twelve
Speaker 1: years thirteen, fourteen years of studying this shit, not like oh,
Speaker 1: I listened to the songs or or you know, I
Speaker 1: got the albums, I read the credits. Those is all
Speaker 1: cuzed like natural fanatic things to do because I went
Speaker 1: and talked to these niggas. I went and touched the
Speaker 1: soil where these niggas was at. I didn't just fuck around.
Speaker 1: I went to really get it, to understand what my
Speaker 1: job was as a hip hop artist. Like this shit
Speaker 1: is serious. I'm not When I made two Park months,
Speaker 1: that's not me emulating shit. That's me delivering what you
Speaker 1: should expect from a Los Angeles hip hop artist. The
Speaker 1: cultural aspect of morality presented through something that the whole
Speaker 1: world knew about. And then I gave you morality from
Speaker 1: La street urban life how we see things.
Speaker 4: Sure, how.
Speaker 3: Is there an argument maybe that could be made that
Speaker 3: perhaps Drake is reflective of Disney Corporation street urban culture.
Speaker 1: That's my point. It would have to be like and
Speaker 1: then I was having an Okay, no ceilings, no ceilings,
Speaker 1: so we're trying some I'm dow on no ceilings. So
Speaker 1: if you're on ig live, this is on YouTube. If
Speaker 1: you go to my YouTube, it's on YouTube as well.
Speaker 1: It's on ig live. So we're trying something new just
Speaker 1: to I'm starting to feel around because we're going into
Speaker 1: the fourth season of No Ceilings, so I'm starting to
Speaker 1: look for really creative ways to bring y'all a culture.
Speaker 1: The conversation, the barbershop conversation. You feel me. And so
Speaker 1: if you if you're on my IG live, go to
Speaker 1: my YouTube. You can go to my YouTube comment fuck
Speaker 1: with niggas. You come to my ig live, fuck with it.
Speaker 1: Pete in the house. You can see Pete if you
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Either way, It's all love. Now, what'd you
Speaker 1: say again to me? The Disney Corporation. I was talking
Speaker 1: to this kid and I was explaining to him, like, right,
Speaker 1: if you just look up the word culture, right, it's
Speaker 1: it's culture for the most part is poor people Like
Speaker 1: pizza is poor Italian culture. Me wrong. Everybody in Italy
Speaker 1: at this point probably likes the Eve pizza, but it's
Speaker 1: poor Italian culture, just like tacos are poor Mexican culture,
Speaker 1: just like Chitling's is poor slave American culture. Right, and
Speaker 1: then everybody adopts it, and then everybody claims the fame,
Speaker 1: and then shit becomes black culture or Italian culture or everybody. Right,
Speaker 1: But this is really the conversation or the object of
Speaker 1: the poor. Poor people create culture because wealthy people, Bro
Speaker 1: don't need to, they're not. Culture is like a kind
Speaker 1: of a forced evolution of get down, Like slang comes
Speaker 1: from bad education, bad schooling, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like not schooling. That's not teaching a great lesson. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not birthed in the suburbs. You mean, because there
Speaker 1: will be no need fashion. The ability to take dickies,
Speaker 1: which is some poor worker clothes every day laborer closed
Speaker 1: and make them a fashion statement could only happen in
Speaker 1: the poorest places of Los Angeles. Sure to push your
Speaker 1: grandfather's car cubs out the yard, his old fifty eight
Speaker 1: beat up Impala and push it out the yard and
Speaker 1: fix it up and put hydraulics on it and all
Speaker 1: of that. Those are statements of poor people trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how to enjoy their life. Remember even the
Speaker 1: breaks themselves, right, the breaks is niggas who didn't know
Speaker 1: how to play music finding a break. They if they
Speaker 1: had drummers, they could just play the goddamn break. They
Speaker 1: knew how to drum and had expensive as drum sets,
Speaker 1: cause they could just play the breaks. Bro they wouldn't
Speaker 1: need to have fucking two turntables to play the fucking breaks.
Speaker 1: You just fucking play the break and guess what, it
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't fucking be a break because at that point
Speaker 1: it be fucking drums.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 1: Look, one thing poor people do really well. Shout out
Speaker 1: to the ghetto niggas, the Spades and all the niggas
Speaker 1: that created hip hop. Poor people know how to make
Speaker 1: being poor look fucking cool. Poor people, hip hop. Hip
Speaker 1: hop created poor people looking cool because before that it
Speaker 1: was not cool to be poor. Hip Hop created that shit.
Speaker 1: Hip hop had wealthy people wearing fucking penaltents. Hip hop
Speaker 1: has wealthy people buying cheap shit. And guess what happened
Speaker 1: to the cheap shit. The cheap shit become expensive shit,
Speaker 1: and they fucking core task now is two hundred dollars
Speaker 1: because some poor people said this is cool. That's what
Speaker 1: hip hop did. That's what hip hop is. Poor motherfuckers
Speaker 1: making their life look cool and then they present it
Speaker 1: to you and you're like, man, look at them motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: They having fun.
Speaker 2: Still sure, yeah, I don't disagree with that that.
Speaker 1: Them motherfuckers is having fun. That's how the world look
Speaker 1: hip hop is the first. I'm talking about all over
Speaker 1: the world. I'm talking to fuck China, Japan, cuz, fucking Russia, Europe,
Speaker 1: any fucking where nobody made poor look cool. Hip hop
Speaker 1: made poor look cool. So I get it. You get
Speaker 1: the middle class kids, the upper class kids who want
Speaker 1: to come in and they like man and they they
Speaker 1: look cool, so they want to sit at the cool table.
Speaker 1: I know what Drake did. Drake saw that shit. I
Speaker 1: watched Chris Brown. Chris Brown's a fucking millionaire. Chris Brown's
Speaker 1: a millionaire or multi millionaire, a fucking genius, and he
Speaker 1: wanted to He wanted to associate and assimilate with the
Speaker 1: poor people. That's what hip hop did. Hip Hop took
Speaker 1: these poor things cause that we got trapped with and
Speaker 1: made them look cool. That's what hip hop is Cuz
Speaker 1: hip hop ain't nothing but the poor people making their
Speaker 1: everyday artistic expressions look brilliant. And everybody won't in. Oh,
Speaker 1: everybody won't in now, everybody won't in. Everybody won't d
Speaker 1: So Drake saw. So Drake starts his career off. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know what this guy Jay Dill, I've been hearing
Speaker 1: about him. You can look at old interviews, Cause with
Speaker 1: Drake on YouTube talking shit about slang, I don't use
Speaker 1: that term. I don't even talk like that. This is Drake.
Speaker 1: Drake is a fucking middle class kid who grew up
Speaker 1: in a George community. Yes, Cus Pops is a brother
Speaker 1: from Memphis, but if you listen to Cuz he didn't
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time with his pops said his
Speaker 1: pops wasn't around.
Speaker 3: Sure, I'm not saying nothing much about Drake says I
Speaker 3: was really really raised in Memphis.
Speaker 1: No, nothing about Cub says that. Right, But that's the point.
Speaker 1: So people like when if you're just black, hold on,
Speaker 1: Black people can be culture vultures too, And that's the
Speaker 1: hardest part for niggas to accept. See, black people can't
Speaker 1: be racism based off of how they redefined racism. Right,
Speaker 1: This systemic oppression of the power the economics to truly
Speaker 1: o press the class is what the new definition of
Speaker 1: racism mean. It's no longer supremacy just based off race,
Speaker 1: or feeling of supremacy or inferiority based off race. We
Speaker 1: passed that. Now it's like the actual you carrying it out.
Speaker 1: Do you have the power and the money to carry
Speaker 1: out the complet. So that's how they define racism. I'm
Speaker 1: cool with that. Whatever. Cool, same motherfucking thing. What were
Speaker 1: we talking about right now? Same shit? So I've been
Speaker 1: asking everybody, say, Man, I'm gonna ask you, Pete. We
Speaker 1: don't fucking know Shillings, right, I'm gonna ask you. What
Speaker 1: kind of cars do Miami street urban guys drive?
Speaker 3: Well, everybody knows that box and what's the slang word
Speaker 3: for him?
Speaker 2: It's not dunks.
Speaker 1: It's called dunks, right, that's cool dumps? Right? What kind
Speaker 1: of shoes boots do guys from New York wear? The
Speaker 1: street urban guys from New York, what's the brand of
Speaker 1: boots they wear?
Speaker 3: Having never been there, I'm only going off a rumor,
Speaker 3: but from what I gather, it's Timberlands.
Speaker 1: It's Timberlands, right, Okay? Yes, have you had any idea
Speaker 1: what kind of pants niggas from New Orleans were? Street
Speaker 1: urban guys from New Orleans coach.
Speaker 2: Like jeebos or something like that.
Speaker 1: Or whoa right? Okay, got right? Okay? Jabo's okay? What
Speaker 1: kind of wheels do niggas street urban people from Houston
Speaker 1: put on their cars?
Speaker 2: Eighty four'st baby swinging, right, poking out. Yeah, yeah, pokes Okay.
Speaker 1: Right, Los Angeles, we wear a jacket. That's not a jacket,
Speaker 1: it's more of a flannel. What's the name of that flannel?
Speaker 1: What brand makes that flannel?
Speaker 2: Sh what the Dickies flannel?
Speaker 1: The Pendleton flannel, Right, that's what we call flannels. So
Speaker 1: what's funny is we've been calling flannels pendletons so long
Speaker 1: that we didn't even realize Pendleton makes a brand of flannels.
Speaker 1: It's not actually the name of the flannel, right, But
Speaker 1: this is how long we've been calling them Pendletons because Pendleton,
Speaker 1: it's the fucking flannel. What kind of shoes? LA guys,
Speaker 1: If you see an LA guy, you want to know
Speaker 1: he's gonna wear what kind of shoes?
Speaker 2: Well, historically it would be Converse All Stars.
Speaker 1: Right there, you go. Right, you're a white guy from
Speaker 1: Orange County. Okay, I'm gonna go even deeper because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go deeper. Sure, this might be a challenge for you.
Speaker 1: It is because this real hip hop knowledge, because true
Speaker 1: hip hop not what kind of glasses do street urban
Speaker 1: guys from Detroit wear? Oh man, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: tough because you gotta be deep into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just that's just one of those things I
Speaker 3: just never gave a second thought about. Was like glasses
Speaker 3: because I don't wear I don't even wear sunglasses.
Speaker 1: Right, so they weare. They're called buffs Cardier, the Cardier glasses.
Speaker 1: They call them buffs after Detroit cultural street urban thing.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. It's cultural buffs, right, and and
Speaker 1: that's what hip hop presented us to. All of those
Speaker 1: things are fashions transportation. If I say give me a
Speaker 1: New Orleans street urban slang word, you can say wody.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If I ask the same thing, you know what Saint Louis,
Speaker 1: Let's go to Saint Louis. How do Saint Louis.
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: How does a Saint Louis? Niggas say there vern right
Speaker 1: with a fucking you.
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: She does? Saint Lunatics Click introduced us to fucking Saint
Speaker 1: Louis cultures. Why you know.
Speaker 2: That sexy red If you didn't know it, wanted her
Speaker 2: saw she said, she says such and such and such.
Speaker 3: An and my tongue got a person but like like
Speaker 3: a piercing but it sounds like person exactly.
Speaker 1: That's why I argue niggas down, Like, bro, you can't
Speaker 1: tell me Sexy Red ain't fucking Saint Louis culture. This
Speaker 1: little bit street urban culture.
Speaker 2: She's she named streets.
Speaker 1: That ship is pure hip hop. That's like per That
Speaker 1: is the culture nigga with a different like nigga. That
Speaker 1: is so much culture, nigga, you probably need to dilute it.
Speaker 1: That's why niggas is mad right now, because Sexy Red
Speaker 1: is culture undiluted. That ship pure colt like you need
Speaker 1: to cut that. You need to add some pro caine
Speaker 1: to that. Some baker so that turned that into rocks.
Speaker 1: So niggas because these niggas can't handle that Peruvian flake.
Speaker 1: That little bit is Peruvian flake, nigga. That bitch is pure.
Speaker 1: I mean looking at the old Yeah, this little this
Speaker 1: little bitch is really a hood little bit. I like
Speaker 1: this little bit.
Speaker 2: Why I was such a fan when shit came out.
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to wholesale this ship.
Speaker 1: You take this ship, you supposed to wholesale all that
Speaker 1: out to the market, and I get it. You don't
Speaker 1: have to like it pure. Guess what niggas didn't like NWA,
Speaker 1: Like the people don't get this. When n w A
Speaker 1: fucking came out the way most Black people, especially the
Speaker 1: niggas who feel they are sophisticated. They hated n w A.
Speaker 1: The Black churches was the greatest opposition to the song
Speaker 1: Fuck the Police, Black people. Black churches was the greatest
Speaker 1: opposition to NWA. The Black Church hated on Snoop Dogg
Speaker 1: the fucking most. The Black church hated on Snoop Dogg
Speaker 1: the most, not the white church, the Black church.
Speaker 2: But they liked Kanye.
Speaker 1: That's the truth.
Speaker 2: And I know because we've made of mister West before.
Speaker 1: Boy see, and that's what happened. They think they gonna
Speaker 1: get these motherfucking see they got Kanye. See, they thought
Speaker 1: snooping and was bad. They was like, these niggas just
Speaker 1: bly bib. These niggas is cool niggas. Dog is just
Speaker 1: a nigga from a poor family, nigga trying to get
Speaker 1: some coin. Nigga and representing Kanye is like, motherfucking listen,
Speaker 1: you can't control Kanye with no fucking money. You can't
Speaker 1: even get cuzz to ease up with no money. He
Speaker 1: is the worst type of black person for white people.
Speaker 1: He is a fucking savage who don't know clubs with
Speaker 1: opportunity and money, and they thought they got one in there.
Speaker 1: They tried to sneak cousin there. I thought they had
Speaker 1: a cool one that they was gonna swing the pendulum
Speaker 1: over to where they could do the same thing Cuz
Speaker 1: they deal with rock, they can do the same thing
Speaker 1: in hip hop, because that's really what the goal is.
Speaker 1: The goal is do the same thing with hip hop
Speaker 1: that you did with rock music. The Dosley Brothers were
Speaker 1: a rock grew. Funkadelic was a rock grew. They were
Speaker 1: rock groups, rock groups. Somebody realized firsthand that the labels
Speaker 1: wasn't spending no more money on black rock. So guess
Speaker 1: what they did, because they flipped the R and B
Speaker 1: and funk. Because at the end of the day, people
Speaker 1: still gotta make a living. It's fucking all the Iy Brothers,
Speaker 1: five of these motherfuckers, a family of these motherfuckers. You
Speaker 1: gotta make money, so we're not. The Isley Brothers first
Speaker 1: hit record is a rock song.
Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't they get this. They jump started Elton John's career.
Speaker 1: Twist and Shout is a rock song. Somebody can to
Speaker 1: them niggas and said, hey, they're not going to keep
Speaker 1: putting money into black rock, you better change it better
Speaker 1: and them niggas, dum them niggas went to R and B.
Speaker 1: Same thing with Funkadelic, with funka Delic was all them
Speaker 1: rock songs and shit early on. If you better changing shit,
Speaker 1: they not putting dollars into black rock. So now you
Speaker 1: look up right, Pete, fifty fucking years later, there's not
Speaker 1: a nigga in sight of rock. There's not a nigga
Speaker 1: inside of rock. Yeah, ain't no black jazz person gonna
Speaker 1: get no fucking budget. And the same thing is gonna
Speaker 1: happen to hip hop if you don't set a parameter
Speaker 1: of what's going on, because those same dollars will get
Speaker 1: moved to other shit. If you truly believe in systemic racism,
Speaker 1: if you truly believe in systemic oppression, bro, if you
Speaker 1: truly believe in that shit, then you know, goddamn well,
Speaker 1: they is not trying to give no motherfucking body money,
Speaker 1: not no person they oppressing. Do you either believe in
Speaker 1: it or you don't. If you're a black person, If
Speaker 1: you believe in it, you know goddamn well, they're not
Speaker 1: trying to give a nigga no money. So they're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how to move the dollars away from
Speaker 1: the ghetto. Why would you empower who you are oppressing?
Speaker 1: Why would you give economics to somebody you oppressing? If
Speaker 1: you believe in oppression. Now, if we don't, we can
Speaker 1: have this conversation. We can shake it off, and then
Speaker 1: it's cool. If Drake is hip hop, then it's cool.
Speaker 1: If Drake is hip hop. But if you trying, if
Speaker 1: you truly believe hip hop was the ghetto giving giving
Speaker 1: voice to the ghetto, because that's what hip hop is.
Speaker 1: Right now, I ask you all these crazy questions, right,
Speaker 1: I ask you some shit all. If I say, give
Speaker 1: me a slang word from New York, how do they
Speaker 1: reference each other when they talking to each other?
Speaker 2: Or like son shit son?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: How do La Street urban guys reference each other when
Speaker 1: they talking to each other?
Speaker 2: That's on what side they're from?
Speaker 4: Right? Right? Trus blood?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Okay? How the Bay Area niggas? What kind of cars?
Speaker 1: What's the reference of cars that Bay Area niggas ride?
Speaker 2: Damn it, I forgot that. That's have to live there, said,
Speaker 2: what do that call us? Goddamn things?
Speaker 1: It's a scraper? Oh yeah, that's right, a fucking scraper.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 2: And and and and up there everyone. They say blood to.
Speaker 1: Everyone in the same sentence. I haven't heard because we
Speaker 1: know this because hip hop gave us all of these things.
Speaker 1: Hip hop gave us all of these things. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: know ship about Saint Louis if not for the Saint Loan.
Speaker 1: It takes if Nellie and all them niggas and and
Speaker 1: I Lead and and and Chingy and all these niggas
Speaker 1: and teach me about, how the fuck would I know
Speaker 1: unless I was selling dope over there on my summer
Speaker 1: vacation like ice Cue, how the fuck would I know?
Speaker 1: I fucking wouldn't know. The reason I know how Saint
Speaker 1: Louis niggas talk, what kind of cars, they whatever kind
Speaker 1: of shit they did, is because of some fucking hip hop.
Speaker 1: Because them niggas brought the culture to Watts and it
Speaker 1: took over Watts. Saint Louis Culch, it took over Watts,
Speaker 1: but we got it through hip hop, right, So we
Speaker 1: had this commisation. Give me one motherfucking thing you know
Speaker 1: about Toronto. Drake got thirteen albums, seven hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: six songs, fucking a million videos. You can't tell me
Speaker 1: one of these things you know about fucking Toronto. They
Speaker 1: do not say whoa Quinn Miller wrote that that's fucking
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Tell me what kind of cars do Toronto
Speaker 1: niggas drive? What's they called?
Speaker 2: Thought they use? I thought they used public transportation up there.
Speaker 1: Yes, it sounds cool. Tell me the car. Give me
Speaker 1: a car. Give me a car, Toronto nigga drive. You
Speaker 1: just said, you just said to Miami niggas, Chevy Vault.
Speaker 1: Fucking you just you just said, right, you just said
Speaker 1: New Orleans niggas, right, they drive dumps. Yeah, you just
Speaker 1: said the bearry nigga drive scrapers, La niggas. What the
Speaker 1: car do l A niggas drive? Street urban niggas in
Speaker 1: La rider?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Okay, right, you got that right to win. Tell me
Speaker 1: the car Toronto niggas drive. Give me the car.
Speaker 3: Did it's the Chevy Vault, the street electric cars or
Speaker 3: the Honda Leaf. I think they drive the Honda Leaf
Speaker 3: because that whole maple leaf.
Speaker 1: Thing, the Honda.
Speaker 3: I had an idea real quick for a great opportunity
Speaker 3: for Drake. I've been thinking this for years. This is
Speaker 3: years old observation that if he really wanted to make
Speaker 3: a great Canadian song, he could do the juvenile huh
Speaker 3: and instead and every sentence in a like Canadians.
Speaker 1: So please wrap that for me.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't have I don't have the
Speaker 3: bars on me. I just know that, you know what
Speaker 3: like like juveniles a Canadians.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I forget you a comic because because you smart.
Speaker 1: But did you fuck this dude? Okay? So my point
Speaker 1: is right, So you don't know, right, Okay, So you
Speaker 1: can't tell me. You could tell me that the La
Speaker 1: Niggas drive Lo Los. You can tell me that the
Speaker 1: Miami Niggas street urban guys, right, donks tell me the
Speaker 1: Bay Area radscrapers. But you can't tell me.
Speaker 3: The only singular observation that I have for Drake having
Speaker 3: any proximal association with Toronto is his business relationship with
Speaker 3: like Popcorn and some of the Jamaican artists. Because of
Speaker 3: the Caribbean presence in Toronto. That's it.
Speaker 2: But there that might and that might be serendipitous anyway.
Speaker 1: But the but the Caribbean presence is also in New York.
Speaker 1: But there is a street urban culture in Toronto. Toronto
Speaker 1: is not this hell a nice place that everybody's doing
Speaker 1: well and every last person has money. Toronto. Nigga got ghettos.
Speaker 1: And the reason you have no fucking idea is because
Speaker 1: this nigga is not from the ghetto. He's not close
Speaker 1: to the ghetto. He don't he barely know niggas from
Speaker 1: the ghetto. This is a middle class kid who grew
Speaker 1: up in a Jewish community. On television.
Speaker 2: Yes, from what I gather, so.
Speaker 1: I can ask you a thousand things. You don't know
Speaker 1: what kind of cars they drive. Give me lingo, give
Speaker 1: me Toronto lingo.
Speaker 2: Six tried with a If that fails, I got nothing.
Speaker 1: You've been making music professionally for fifteen, sixteen years sixteen.
Speaker 3: His music sounds like to me, it's sound because he's
Speaker 3: a good, you know, writer of rhyming lines. I feel
Speaker 3: like he just goes on Twitter and aggregates, like whatever phrases.
Speaker 1: He looks at what's going on on Black Twitter, and
Speaker 1: he makes a song about it. Yeah, whenever things get hot,
Speaker 1: he'd be like, Okay, that's that. Madonna does the same thing.
Speaker 1: That's what pop artists do. They take the very top
Speaker 1: of the urban culture that's coming through the underground and
Speaker 1: they take it and then they represent it. Yeah, Drake
Speaker 1: had a song with Dirt talking about he spun blocks.
Speaker 2: Can I make a really off color joke?
Speaker 1: Please?
Speaker 4: Please please?
Speaker 2: Was that not a Dradle reference?
Speaker 1: Wow? No, that's not what it was, Pete's not what
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to learn.
Speaker 3: My building is extremely Orthodox Jewish, so I'm learning little
Speaker 3: nuanced is like those little scrolls by the doorway and stuff.
Speaker 3: Everyone down my hallway and that, and they don't use
Speaker 3: the elevators like on the weekends and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: They all take the stairs I'm picking up. There's there's
Speaker 3: not a cultural footprint like the one that I'm in
Speaker 3: back in California like that.
Speaker 1: Well, this is the weird part, right, this is the
Speaker 1: weird part. I'm Joey here steal his stell man. Make
Speaker 1: sure it's still still still.
Speaker 2: I heard her rumor that steels coming on. That must
Speaker 2: have been a lie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, still is crazy. Okay. So this is the point, right,
Speaker 1: And this is another thing that's abused. Right when people
Speaker 1: hear elements, and they hear the five fucking elements. And
Speaker 1: I hate talking to niggas about this because they think
Speaker 1: they get what it means, but they fucking get it. Listen,
Speaker 1: m seeing existed before hip hop dancing existed before hip hop.
Speaker 1: DJing existed before hip hop. Graffiti existed before hip hop.
Speaker 1: Hip Hop didn't create any of these things, and these
Speaker 1: things are not mutually exclusive to hip hop, like rapping
Speaker 1: or him singing is not exclusively only to hip hop.
Speaker 1: Singing is not exclusively only to R and B. So
Speaker 1: people like, well he raps, he's an MC. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be often. You're gonna hear that so fucking much right
Speaker 1: now because hip hop popularized him singing rapping to another
Speaker 1: level that everybody from different genres can take it and
Speaker 1: adapt it and use it for their own fucking music.
Speaker 1: The elements are ways you express the culture. It's not
Speaker 1: the act itself, it's expressing the culture through those ways. Artistically,
Speaker 1: DJ's been around, bro, niggas been at DJs, niggas been
Speaker 1: had DJs. Bro, djn ain't nothing new. They jan old
Speaker 1: as fuck. You thought DJ started.
Speaker 2: In the fucking seventies, never gave it any thought.
Speaker 1: Actually, DJ and didn't start in the seventies. There was
Speaker 1: fucking disco DJs the fucking DJ's way before that, bro.
Speaker 2: But that was the sixties. The seventies. Disco was the seventies.
Speaker 1: Dj I'm saying before it listen, even before it was
Speaker 1: before hip hop, Joe Text was rapping niggas being graffiti.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 1: People keep thinking hip hop created the elements, No, they didn't.
Speaker 1: They popularized the elements. But hip hop is when you
Speaker 1: express the arts through these elements. That's what they're referencing
Speaker 1: as hip hop. Now that can be involved in right filmmaking.
Speaker 1: There's going to be a filmmaking style of hip hop
Speaker 1: coming that would be growth. That would be an evolution,
Speaker 1: That would be an evolution. That and only that would
Speaker 1: be an evolution. It's not an evolution because you allowing
Speaker 1: white fucking people to do fucking music. That's not what
Speaker 1: an evolution is. It's notop bro. And so I can
Speaker 1: go down a list of things that you cannot tell
Speaker 1: me about Toronto street urban lifestyle, because even though you
Speaker 1: heard Drake fourteen albums, fourteen albums, endless videos, interviews, sixteen
Speaker 1: years of presence, you will not be able to tell
Speaker 1: me one thing about street urban lifestyle in Toronto because
Speaker 1: Drake hasn't ever told you any of it. But yet
Speaker 1: you knew. Yet you knew the first fucking time you
Speaker 1: heard Snoop Dogg. The first time you saw Doctor Drake,
Speaker 1: you knew what kind of cars. The first album Doctor
Speaker 1: Dre put out The Chronic, the first album. You knew
Speaker 1: what kind of cars. La guys drive, LA Street Urban
Speaker 1: guys j were. The first Doctor Dre video, the first one,
Speaker 1: Not fucking Drake. Cubs got forty video, fifty sixty videos.
Speaker 1: You still have no fucking idea. The first Doctor Dre video,
Speaker 1: You knew what type of cars Los Angeles Street Urban
Speaker 1: lifestyle guys drive. The first song, the first song bro,
Speaker 1: The first juvenile video you ever saw in your life. Hi,
Speaker 1: you knew what kind of pants New Orleans Street urban
Speaker 1: guys wore.
Speaker 2: And we knew they wore rebox down there.
Speaker 1: Right there the first day, the first video you saw
Speaker 1: from juvenile on a mainstream level. You knew culturally what
Speaker 1: New Orleans street fashion was about. You knew how they talked.
Speaker 1: You heard certain words like whoa dad? You like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck is that? That was New Orleans slang and
Speaker 1: reference how they communicate with each other. You learned that
Speaker 1: the first juvenile video Drake is seventy videos in CAUZ
Speaker 1: And you still don't know none of this shit, None
Speaker 1: of this shit. You don't know, and there's not no
Speaker 1: other reason besides the fact he is not hip hop.
Speaker 1: He's had a lowrider in his video. He did the
Speaker 1: motto and put a lowrider under the Bay Bridge. He
Speaker 1: put a lowrider under the Bay Bridge.
Speaker 2: He does make some women's hair references though, from time
Speaker 2: to time.
Speaker 1: He put a lowrider under the Bay Bridge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody asked me disrespected by that?
Speaker 1: Yes, we felt disrespected by that.
Speaker 2: I would too. I would too.
Speaker 1: Why the fuck would you put a lowrider under the
Speaker 1: Bay Bridge? Because guess what, when you're from outside of
Speaker 1: the culture, you see it as just West Coast culture.
Speaker 1: It's the Bay Area Bridge and lowriders. They go together,
Speaker 1: It's California because you're not fucking from the culture. So
Speaker 1: you saw all this shit, you heard all these other
Speaker 1: niggas lingos in his song Spun the Block Woes blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. Right, but sixth war Brid conversation that he
Speaker 1: turned six into Toronto, even though I mean six ward
Speaker 1: to last, all this dose shit that you hear, but
Speaker 1: you still don't know one mother fucking thing about mother
Speaker 1: fucking Toronto because guess why, I don't know where fucking
Speaker 1: Madonna's from either. And I don't know shit about where
Speaker 1: people from where Madonna is from, because I don't know
Speaker 1: nothing about him, because you don't know shit about pop
Speaker 1: artists because pop artists don't sell no motherfucking cultures.
Speaker 3: Similarly, and this might be a little unpopular, I learned
Speaker 3: very little about Gary Indiana from Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: And this is why I don't compare Michael Jackson and
Speaker 1: Drake Like. Somebody said it to me, well, why would
Speaker 1: you reference him like Madonna? And I explained to him,
Speaker 1: I said, Madonna used to do the same thing with
Speaker 1: urban music. She would take urban music, the highlights of it,
Speaker 1: and turn it into pop songs. Right now, shit was dope.
Speaker 1: The hood niggas love Madonna, but we all knew she was.
Speaker 3: How much of that was her, like like on the
Speaker 3: production sort of side, how much of Madonna that we
Speaker 3: saw and result was actually the fruit of Madonna versus
Speaker 3: just an apparatus that said, here's this woman that we
Speaker 3: could sure.
Speaker 1: Because she's not a prep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I think if it happened, because
Speaker 2: that's similar maybe with Michael to a.
Speaker 1: Degree, he had a right I'm gonna tell you why
Speaker 1: it's different, Right, I think it has to be Madonna's
Speaker 1: mind because it was so consistent. Eventually, like so, maybe
Speaker 1: it doesn't start that way. Maybe you know, she has
Speaker 1: her own max more than like like like, that's.
Speaker 2: Why I would think it isn't.
Speaker 1: But but I'm gonna tell you why. Eventually, because artists
Speaker 1: grow powerful and they start to carry out their own visions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: her really, yes, So I genuinely believe somewhere along the
Speaker 1: line it has something to do with her. But this
Speaker 1: is why I don't compare. This is why I reference
Speaker 1: Kanye as closer to Michael Jackson than a Drake. Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson is brought up in R and B. Sure, Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson was brought up in R and B. Michael Jackson's
Speaker 1: kids and Gary and Diana grew up in Gary, Indiana,
Speaker 1: move to LA and it was brought up in R
Speaker 1: and B through the Motown system. Michael Jackson five is
Speaker 1: an R and B group, right who had pop success.
Speaker 1: That's why I always call Kanye West Michael Jackson. Kanye
Speaker 1: West is Michael Jackson. Drake is Madonna likek at that
Speaker 1: Kanye came up like Michael Jackson. His mom brought him
Speaker 1: up in the black experience of being black. He may.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where him in poverty sits at. Maybe
Speaker 1: as far you know, this is a whole other conversation,
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe it's not as far. I know,
Speaker 1: he wasn't raised in the ghetto, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And again, there are some exceptions to the rule in
Speaker 1: the conversation hip hop hip hop being ghetto, right, there
Speaker 1: are some exceptions to the rules. But the fucking exception
Speaker 1: is not the fucking rule.
Speaker 2: Of course, the exception is not Bro.
Speaker 1: The exception is not the mother fucking rule. This is
Speaker 1: not an assassination on Drake. This is not like the
Speaker 1: attempt to to demote Drake, like Bro. Drake is fucking
Speaker 1: fantastic as a.
Speaker 3: Drake is gonna be fine because he's he's over talented.
Speaker 1: His ear for the game is dope. Forty's ear for
Speaker 1: the game is dope. These niggas are scientists at this ship,
Speaker 1: and Drake is not shabby with that. P in the
Speaker 1: nigga game is nice. The nigga's a talented mc or.
Speaker 1: He can hold a note well enough to be a
Speaker 1: really decent singer, so he's fantastic. He studies the game.
Speaker 1: He studies the game, so that's going to always work.
Speaker 1: He will be just fine, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: if he's not declared. I had to think about this.
Speaker 1: If he's not declared a hip hop artist, does it
Speaker 1: really hurt him?
Speaker 4: Know?
Speaker 1: But if you make him a hip hop artist, it
Speaker 1: hurts the ghetto because guess why the motherfucking suits are
Speaker 1: not stupid. Business is simple. If I can get somebody
Speaker 1: that looks like me to take over where something is
Speaker 1: successful and this is the mass population, they're going to
Speaker 1: sell more naturally, that's simple marketing. This that could be me.
Speaker 1: Eminem is an outstanding MC, I know right now. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. Hate on Eminem and whatever reason, these niggas
Speaker 1: got this thing going on where they hate on Eminem.
Speaker 1: Look and real, what are you talking about with that?
Speaker 3: I'm not an Eminem fan? Like, well, I'm music a
Speaker 3: bundantly talented I mean, like for.
Speaker 1: Sure, like I like what I genuinely think it started
Speaker 1: follow I started being I think it started with Xeno
Speaker 1: on them. When Zeno on Them started that b for M.
Speaker 1: You start seeing all these other narratives and now these
Speaker 1: narratives have legs and they've grown to be eight feet tall.
Speaker 2: What are they like?
Speaker 1: I'm like narrative is that he's not this or I
Speaker 1: don't relate to his life, or he's not tight. The
Speaker 1: main one is he's not good. That shit is crazy,
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. And this is coming from a rapper because
Speaker 1: the rappers rapper bro, songwriter, songwriter, songwriter, songwriter, rappers rapper
Speaker 1: bro that nigga is nice, bro that nigga is nice
Speaker 1: on every level. He's a street urban kid, grew up
Speaker 1: in the same type of poverty. That's the idea, right boom,
Speaker 1: That's all it ever been. But the thing now is
Speaker 1: to hate on cuz that's the tream because to hate
Speaker 1: on this dude. So now you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I get it. And you look at Eminem for even
Speaker 1: as fantastic as he is, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I do think there's other rappers that's great, Like jay
Speaker 1: Z is probably as great as Eminem. Buster Rhymes is
Speaker 1: probably his greatest Eminem, Lil Wayne is probably his greatest
Speaker 1: Eminem Snoop daughter, you know what I mean. All these
Speaker 1: niggas are as great as Eminem in their own respective rights.
Speaker 1: They do all the same things and they're just as great.
Speaker 1: But it's the reason why this motherfucker got two diamond albums.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's a short list of people. That's
Speaker 2: the reason what he does.
Speaker 1: It's a reason why Little Wayne don't got one diamond album.
Speaker 1: It's the reason why Snoop Dog don't have one diamond album.
Speaker 1: It's the reason why Eminem has two diamond albums. This
Speaker 1: is not a shot of Eminem. Eminem is a white
Speaker 1: man that's unbelievably talented in this culture thing we called
Speaker 1: hip hop, how we expressed all these problems. He is fantastic,
Speaker 1: But goddamn it, you can't tell me white folk don't
Speaker 1: see cuz and think like that could be me. It's
Speaker 1: the reason he died that hair blonde. This ain't buy
Speaker 1: no motherfucking mistake. This is not a shot to him.
Speaker 1: I'm not in that pool of guys talking shit about
Speaker 1: mm is desert. He is fantastic. Stand is one of
Speaker 1: the greatest stories in the history of hip hop. Top five.
Speaker 1: It's a cultural phenomena. You word we reference to niggas
Speaker 1: like that to this day. This nigga is an outstanding
Speaker 1: songwriter in MC. He's fucking fantastic. But goddamn, this nigga
Speaker 1: got two diamond albums. Man, So these people know, if
Speaker 1: they can get hip hop in the hands of people
Speaker 1: that look like the mass of the population, it's going
Speaker 1: to be easier to sell. So if I am not
Speaker 1: saying Drake is not hip hop because he doesn't carry
Speaker 1: the burden of culture, then you get Jack Harlowe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and guess what Jack is, dope. Jack happened to be
Speaker 1: one of those kids who grew up liking niggas, fucking
Speaker 1: with the fucking with fucking with niggas. Jack is one
Speaker 1: of those kids who grew up that happened to be
Speaker 1: a decent motherfucking white man out of Kentucky that fuck
Speaker 1: with niggas. But the next one not, the next one not,
Speaker 1: and next thing you look up is rock and roll.
Speaker 1: It won't be a fucking dollar for black fucking hip hop.
Speaker 1: That's my point. Now, I'm not on the crusade to
Speaker 1: declare Drake out of hip hop, but I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie no different than most death because I'm not finna
Speaker 1: get on these stages and not give my thoughts or
Speaker 1: my studies. I'm not with that, I'm not down for that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it because it don't matter. This nigga's
Speaker 1: a pop icon He's not gonna lose one dollar based
Speaker 1: off of him not being hip hop. He would always
Speaker 1: be a pop success. He took rap went pop with it.
Speaker 1: Post Malone took rap hip hop and went pop with it.
Speaker 1: They took this shit and walked another doors. Look at
Speaker 1: Machine Gun Kelly. Machine Gun Kelly from Cleveland was trying
Speaker 1: to convince us he was the most damn nigga in
Speaker 1: the world. Look at this shit now.
Speaker 3: I think I saw him on TV at the gym
Speaker 3: a couple of days ago on a rerun of Ellen.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 1: He get to be white again. Good for him, feel me,
Speaker 1: my boy get to be white? My boy, Like I
Speaker 1: remember seeing Machine Gun Kelly in this East Side till
Speaker 1: Our Dog. I was like, man, this nigga hard. And
Speaker 1: then I was like, well and it was like all
Speaker 1: the niggas behind you. I was like, man, this shit hard.
Speaker 1: But then I thought of it. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, let me let this shit now. Look
Speaker 1: at this nigga. This nigga don't look like he knew
Speaker 1: a nigga now. Again, that's not that I'm not.
Speaker 3: I feel a little bit of that same similar vibe,
Speaker 3: kind of with the Vanilla Ice when I see him now,
Speaker 3: I think he's like some dude from Norco or.
Speaker 2: Something like that when he turned in to a white man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it didn't seem like it came up that way,
Speaker 3: at least from his little bios.
Speaker 1: So my point is, if you don't declare Drake in
Speaker 1: the pop category, what you do is you guaranteed, you're gallteed.
Speaker 1: You're guaranteed Bro to move dollars away from black hip hop.
Speaker 1: You guarantee to move black dollars out of hip hop.
Speaker 1: That's why it's important we keep the fucking point again.
Speaker 1: This is not a charade against Drake Bro. Like niggas
Speaker 1: love Drake Bro. Drake is like Lebron James. You can't
Speaker 1: dislike or like Lebron James. You just dislike fans, Like
Speaker 1: nobody dislikes Lebron James. Bro, you just dislike Lebron fans.
Speaker 1: His fans think he died on the Cross because got
Speaker 1: hung up on the cross and died for their sins.
Speaker 1: Lebron James don't really ever say something that's too far
Speaker 1: for you to like him or dislike him. Lebron James
Speaker 1: is like Hick Hima Bro. He don't have flavor he's
Speaker 1: always reading the first page of the book. You can't
Speaker 1: even judge if he read the fucking book.
Speaker 5: True small things politically to where you could be like, yep,
Speaker 5: you know what, that was the right thing to say.
Speaker 1: That's Drake. They don't have enough flavor for you to
Speaker 1: tell if you like Howard taste or not. You just
Speaker 1: respect the fact that everybody sells this food product, and
Speaker 1: this food product, you know it has is digestible. That's it.
Speaker 1: Drake Got Jams NonStop is my favorite Drake song. It's
Speaker 1: against the song and I enjoy it. I enjoy it
Speaker 1: like I enjoy Backstreets back everybody that's a hard fump song.
Speaker 1: Bomb boom bomb Drake is like that, isn't there who
Speaker 1: spinning the block? Or you're gonna get a hit put
Speaker 1: out on a nigga? No, And that's fine. I don't
Speaker 1: gotta believe you. But I also understand when somebody outside
Speaker 1: of the culture is using the conversation to make a
Speaker 1: really good song, sure, sure to make a really great song.
Speaker 1: And that's what he does. He will take the hottest
Speaker 1: ship in urban culture, whatever is happened the street or
Speaker 1: the culture, hottest ship and be like, I'm a fuck
Speaker 1: with that. He went to Atlanta and he heard Vasace.
Speaker 1: He was like, Basachi Vasachi, Vassachi, Pasachi, Vasachi, Vasaci Fasachi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's he's he's like a aggregator of.
Speaker 3: What was the name of that old website that they
Speaker 3: used to always have, like urban gos like Bossip or
Speaker 3: something like that or one of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he heard that in a Landa. He was like
Speaker 1: that right there, them little niggas got them one. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna jump on that. He heard Draco. Draco was like
Speaker 1: a phenomenon out of Los Angeles, a cultural phenomenon. He
Speaker 1: was like, Lena, get on that Draco stuff down there.
Speaker 1: It's no crime. I think that's dope. I love you
Speaker 1: trying to empower the culture. Still we at the very
Speaker 1: end of this motherfucker, I be still motherfucker. But I
Speaker 1: Lee didn't know, like I think it's an Instagram. I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: I lead, like you got it. I would have to
Speaker 1: send you the link from you know, YouTube from stream
Speaker 1: yard from stream yard. But still, this was a revolutionary
Speaker 1: conversation that I just had with.
Speaker 4: Pete bout Drake.
Speaker 1: What's not about Drake?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 1: Like break is awesome? Bro, like he's a great guy.
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing for real, Bro, I'm gonna tell him unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Forty is even more phenomenal. The producer forty that nigga is.
Speaker 1: Noah is incredible. Them niggas is incredible. Them niggas are
Speaker 1: like Max fucking martin Is. I don't make Max more
Speaker 1: than a fucking funk producer. I don't give a fuck
Speaker 1: how much Max Morton take funk and make these fucking
Speaker 1: Backstreet songs in six songs, a Brittish Spears song, whatever,
Speaker 1: fucking songs. That don't mean he fucking Rit James. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. He still ain't Rick James.
Speaker 4: Well, we talked about it earlier, right. Hip hop is
Speaker 4: one of those genres that has a very easy barrier
Speaker 4: to entry. You don't instruments, you don't have to, you don't,
Speaker 4: you don't. You don't necessarily even have to be a
Speaker 4: skilled songwriter because they can give you the beat with
Speaker 4: the hook on there.
Speaker 1: All right, Yes, And that's the problem with the ship
Speaker 1: that we create, poor people create. It has the least
Speaker 1: barriers of entry. Tacos now, the even nigga putting shrimp
Speaker 1: in it. Niggas act like that came oxtails in the taco.
Speaker 3: Broacos are a little oxy mouronic.
Speaker 1: Drake exactly. That's what I'm saying, Pete. It's a fucking
Speaker 1: nice oxy mouronic. How the fuck this is a taco
Speaker 1: is because you didn't have a lot of money and
Speaker 1: you took the last of the meats with the facts
Speaker 1: in it the ship and you put it. You wanted
Speaker 1: to feed your kids. You didn't have enough shit, so
Speaker 1: you took some flour. You made this tort ten, and
Speaker 1: you got the worst of the meats, and you seizon
Speaker 1: up a little bit. You put it in there, and
Speaker 1: you you made that white because you knew that little
Speaker 1: taco was gonna feed your fucking family. You knew that
Speaker 1: was gonna make everybody huh.
Speaker 4: You see the same thing with podcasts. You know everybody
Speaker 4: has a podcast.
Speaker 1: I don't even I'm just saying tacos. Man. Now, these
Speaker 1: niggas is putting expensive meats in the fucking tacos. You
Speaker 1: fucking a taco up, bro, I don't want no motherfucking
Speaker 1: flaming your taco. I don't even fucking go together.
Speaker 3: Why taco out of guy's mouth?
Speaker 1: Why would you take a fucking quality piece of steak
Speaker 1: and cover it up with cheap flouring tortilla, or why
Speaker 1: the fuck would you do that?
Speaker 4: I don't know if there's nothing wrong with making Actually
Speaker 4: that sounds pretty interesting to the.
Speaker 1: Past, and I hate you niggas. That's what happened to
Speaker 1: rot Yo. You know what, the white people playing the sound,
Speaker 1: they're pretty interesting. Let Jerry Lee Lewis play man. Just
Speaker 1: let him no, stop putting flaming on in the fucking tacos.
Speaker 1: Stop putting ice telling the fucking tacos man.
Speaker 4: Well, gee, I know I got on late. My apologies,
Speaker 4: long story. I'll tell you about it when we get off,
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna tell you what's going on with hip hop.
Speaker 4: Since hip hop has the easiest barrier to entry, you
Speaker 4: have a lot of people who aren't really invested in
Speaker 4: the into the culture that may want to be a singer.
Speaker 1: They want everybody or to come in to do something else.
Speaker 1: They just you post Malone came up in this motherfucker
Speaker 1: like he was Alan Iverson. I'm white Iverson, bitch, you
Speaker 1: not nothing, You're.
Speaker 4: A white He probably wanted to be a country Western
Speaker 4: singer but didn't have the best vocals, and they wasn't.
Speaker 1: Going from the autotune and the Shiites. What you walk
Speaker 1: in the door through hiproblem because him, because poor people.
Speaker 1: We just want to fuck with niggas and you might
Speaker 1: got some money. We want to change our life, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna let you in our door. I can't be
Speaker 1: mad at us, bro we poor. I can't be mad
Speaker 1: at the culture. We poor man. We just want to
Speaker 1: live a good life. And we think money is the problem.
Speaker 1: It ain't hit us shit that drugs is our problem.
Speaker 1: My call is our problem. Fucking bitch is not being
Speaker 1: with our kids. All problemly ain't hit us all the problems.
Speaker 1: That's the real problems white people created for us. We
Speaker 1: think the one problem in the community is money. Well,
Speaker 1: if I get some money, it's gonna fix everything. And
Speaker 1: it don't fix shit. So you let him fucking post
Speaker 1: malone up in this motherfucker and cousins wearing an Alan
Speaker 1: and Iverson jersey they got this Allen Iverson fucking jersey On,
Speaker 1: got this fucking Allen Iverson jersey on. And you're like,
Speaker 1: he's the white Iverson and he's doing donuts and a
Speaker 1: fucking phantom. Yeah, niggas is gonna fuck with it. He said,
Speaker 1: our favorite fucking guy got the fucking NBA and he
Speaker 1: got a fucking uh of Rose Royce doing donuts. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're fucking with it. And then he gets in the
Speaker 1: motherfucking door that we open for his whole ass, and
Speaker 1: then he's like, man, fuck y'all niggas, I'm not one
Speaker 1: of y'all. Bitch you just saying you was Iverson. Iverson
Speaker 1: is one of us. They all use hip hop to
Speaker 1: get in the fucking door and then they leave it
Speaker 1: for shit. And I'm tired of niggas acting like this,
Speaker 1: saying what's happening, because this is what.
Speaker 4: Happens, and it's been happening for a while.
Speaker 1: And I respect all the letting him in. I respect
Speaker 1: all the brothers who letting him in because they want
Speaker 1: to change their lives. Shout out to my nigga drama.
Speaker 1: Shout out to all the niggas who want to change
Speaker 1: theiry life and came from these backgrounds and be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I just want to win. I just
Speaker 1: want to make a living. But god damn it, we
Speaker 1: got the We can't act like we don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on. And You can't be mad at me, cousin,
Speaker 1: because I'm saying the truth. I'm not saying something you
Speaker 1: don't know. And if you didn't know, cause you need
Speaker 1: to listen and get school and get this work because
Speaker 1: it's important. The same thing happened to Rock, Bro, the
Speaker 1: same fucking thing happened to Rock, and you look up
Speaker 1: and now you can't get a black dollar into rock.
Speaker 1: And you know, niggas ain't finna do nothing, ain't gonna
Speaker 1: make him no money because they gotta change their life.
Speaker 1: They gotta change their fucking life, Bro, they gotta change
Speaker 1: their life. This is no shade to Drake, and I'm
Speaker 1: tired of niggas make it life. What I'm saying makes
Speaker 1: Drake not talented or makes Drake not though, and I
Speaker 1: don't gonna fucking Drake the mad glasses. Hey, nigga, I'm
Speaker 1: not hating on you, cuz I don't get a fuck
Speaker 1: not hating on you. Nigga. I'm happy for you. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you want, I'm glad you at the cool table.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you made it. But don't motherfucking forget it's
Speaker 1: a bunch of other ghetto niggas that you're not sign it.
Speaker 1: That's what this shit was made for, ghetto niggas to
Speaker 1: make take away out. You're not signing ghetto niggas, you
Speaker 1: sign it. Fucking what's the little dude? The fucking tools
Speaker 1: namt Maconaan, you're not signing ghetto niggas.
Speaker 4: Well. Macona might be good.
Speaker 1: No, he not. I'm not mad at that dog. It's
Speaker 1: not his responsibility. But you know what, it's our responsibility.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing about being black. Being black is
Speaker 1: not about how people treat you, because at that point
Speaker 1: everybody will feel black. Latino people will feel black, everybody
Speaker 1: will feel black if it's based off how white people
Speaker 1: treat you. Being black is how we treat each other.
Speaker 1: Being street urban especially is about us taking care of
Speaker 1: each other. That's what hip hop still is.
Speaker 4: The man the man is response before it all.
Speaker 1: Peter good looking out for tuning into The note Seller's podcast.
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Speaker 1: episode was recorded right here on the West Coast of
Speaker 1: the USA and produced by My Homeboy A King for
Speaker 1: the Black Effect Podcast Network and No Heart Radio. Year