WEBVTT - Conversations On Why Drake Isn't Hip Hop 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:04.440 Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.560 Sealer's podcast with your hosts now fuck That with your 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:22.799 loaw glasses Malone So most death. Oh yes, right, So 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:29.560 I had this conversation probably like I don't know two 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:33.600 three years ago, but it resurfaced on the Breakfast Club 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:38.560 last year. Yes, me and Charlottagne and Mby was talking 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:41.400 about it, and it was the same thing about why 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:42.480 Drake isn't hip hop? 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:45.040 Yeah, and. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.920 I see what happened, bro, It's been like so much 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:57.400 shit about It's been so much shit people confuse rap 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.160 and hip hop. So you have people screaming like, oh 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.880 Drake can rap, and I'm like, rap is the mainstream 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.360 delivery system, you know, of music entertainment at this point, 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.520 Like Madonna can't see medium. 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:15.400 Hip hop is the content so to speak. 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:20.000 Yeah, right, Madonna can't sing, but the way you made 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.880 music at that time, you you singing, right, So she 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:28.960 might have kind of interpreted funk in her own way, right, 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.880 she might interpreted funk in her own way, or you know, 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:33.640 R and B in her own way, but that don't 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:39.960 mean Madonna is an R and B artist. Yeah, So 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.280 I'm starting to understand the problem people hear Drake rap, 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.839 so they're like, oh, anybody who rap is hip hop? 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:51.440 If you rap, your hip hop, And it's like, so 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:53.639 you're behind on the A ball because you're not looking 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.960 at rap as you know, the delivery system that has 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.080 went pop to the fact that like Mighty Cyrus has 0:01:59.120 --> 0:01:59.960 a fucking album. 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.880 It's like saying fred Durst back of that what was 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.600 that rock group he had like in the turn of 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.120 the millennium, Like he was hip hop because he rapped 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:09.120 the verses. 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:11.600 On the metal band. 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:18.919 Yeah, great point, and or like saying or like saying, uh, 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:23.840 Debbie Harry from Blondie is a hip hop artist because 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.240 she rapped on raptor. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:29.320 True. 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:38.079 So it's this weird space that's happening. And I think 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.920 because anytime they hear some fucking body rap, rap is 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:46.080 the new way to say nigga. Straight up. Rap is 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.000 the new way to say nigga. He's a rapper. Now, 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:53.320 Drake is a rapper. Drake does make rap songs. But 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.320 if you go to the the beginning of hip hop, 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.720 bro hip hop is culture. Hip hop is the like 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:05.320 one of the earliest genres to lead with culture before music. 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:12.440 I got one for you, Okay, Drake is in hip 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.639 hop the equivalent to an atheist gospel singer. 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:30.760 Atheist gospel singer. Oh man, that's funny, but no, hokuh so, 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:37.200 I get it. You're a sick nigga, bro, You're for sure. 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:43.240 You said hold up, hold up? Uh Ali? Send me 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.640 your ali, uh uh ali? What's your email? I'm gonna 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:51.640 send you a link for But the long story short, 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:58.480 hip hop is culturally. It's a presentation of culture, sure, 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:04.480 through rapping, through graffiti, through djaying, through you know, the 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.560 elements that niggas keep thinking hip. 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.920 Hop, break breakdance into seawalking dancing. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:13.720 Right, it's a presentation of culture through these arts. Sure, 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.760 you don't learn how to break dance. Breakdance has some structure, 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.000 but it's really a natural thing based off of where 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.039 you grew up. The way people break in the Bronx 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.279 is different than the way people break in La. 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.080 Yeah. 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.280 What how you wrap in New York is different than 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.520 how you rap in Los Angeles or how you wrap 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:41.760 in Saint Louis. And what makes Drake a pop artist 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:46.039 is literally he just raps, like whichever of these cultures 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:56.400 he emulating, Yeah, whichever these cultures he's emulating that's what 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:02.200 he does. Sure, Sure, hip hop is street urban culture 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:09.000 presented through the arts, the arts that hip hop created 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.800 the aspects of how they express New York. Shout out 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.120 to the Bronx niggas for how they created the way 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:19.520 it is delivered through the arts. But it's street urban culture. Sure. 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:21.320 And it's like why people don't get it. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.680 I think a lot of you know, I would argue 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.000 for right or for wrong, and I'll probably catch them 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:28.680 flag for it. 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.800 And it's not because I'm white. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.159 It's just coincidental for the conversation that like Paul wall 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.679 is maybe a little bit more hip hop than actually 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:37.200 is Drake. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:44.160 Sure, Sure that, like Eminem right, because it is street 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:51.320 urban culture. It is street urban culture. And like I've 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.520 had this conversation a million times, people fighting, oh man, god, this, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.120 that and the third. It doesn't mean Drake is not tight. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:03.280 It doesn't mean Drake is not a rapper. That's not 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.599 what it means. It doesn't mean Drake doesn't have dope raps. 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.880 It doesn't mean Drake doesn't have dope sixteens. It doesn't 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.839 mean Drake doesn't respect really great hip hop artists. But 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:17.240 he himself is not a hip hop artist. He is 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.479 not a presentation of culture. And what makes him a 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.760 pop artist is he's an emulation of culture. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.120 Yeah, yeah, like he'll. 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.520 It's it's like in you know, a couple of these 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:36.039 books that have read, they define information as surprised. You know, 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.120 like I've said to you if you if I tell 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.960 you something you already know, you're not getting any information. 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:47.880 Sure and kind of in that sense, Drake can only 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.600 as you were saying, like he can own you. Drake 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:59.760 will never bring new culture to the game. It will 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.400 never happen. There are a lot of other rappers and 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.680 hip hop that have and can do that. Drake will 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:11.000 never unveil a new element of urban culture through one 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:17.320 of his songs as him being the absolute like patient zero, 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:18.040 you know what I mean. 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:25.440 Nor does he even represent other cultural occurrences based off 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:32.640 Toronto Street urban culture. Not even based off Toronto Street 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:36.920 urban culture, like the Toronto Street niggas I know, bro, 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.800 are not like Drake. They don't talk like Drake, they 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.360 don't act like Drake. The one thing that makes hip 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:47.800 hop fantastic, Bro, and this is really a hardcore twelve 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.960 years thirteen, fourteen years of studying this shit, not like oh, 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.440 I listened to the songs or or you know, I 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.360 got the albums, I read the credits. Those is all 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:02.480 cuzed like natural fanatic things to do because I went 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.600 and talked to these niggas. I went and touched the 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:09.640 soil where these niggas was at. I didn't just fuck around. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.280 I went to really get it, to understand what my 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.040 job was as a hip hop artist. Like this shit 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:19.960 is serious. I'm not When I made two Park months, 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.400 that's not me emulating shit. That's me delivering what you 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:27.000 should expect from a Los Angeles hip hop artist. The 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:31.600 cultural aspect of morality presented through something that the whole 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.080 world knew about. And then I gave you morality from 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:41.160 La street urban life how we see things. 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:41.520 Sure, how. 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.120 Is there an argument maybe that could be made that 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:51.760 perhaps Drake is reflective of Disney Corporation street urban culture. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.960 That's my point. It would have to be like and 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.679 then I was having an Okay, no ceilings, no ceilings, 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.000 so we're trying some I'm dow on no ceilings. So 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.400 if you're on ig live, this is on YouTube. If 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.160 you go to my YouTube, it's on YouTube as well. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.320 It's on ig live. So we're trying something new just 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.200 to I'm starting to feel around because we're going into 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.760 the fourth season of No Ceilings, so I'm starting to 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.680 look for really creative ways to bring y'all a culture. 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:25.200 The conversation, the barbershop conversation. You feel me. And so 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.040 if you if you're on my IG live, go to 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.240 my YouTube. You can go to my YouTube comment fuck 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.719 with niggas. You come to my ig live, fuck with it. 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:33.599 Pete in the house. You can see Pete if you 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:40.439 on YouTube. Either way, It's all love. Now, what'd you 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.600 say again to me? The Disney Corporation. I was talking 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:47.640 to this kid and I was explaining to him, like, right, 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:49.920 if you just look up the word culture, right, it's 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.719 it's culture for the most part is poor people Like 0:09:53.000 --> 0:10:02.000 pizza is poor Italian culture. Me wrong. Everybody in Italy 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:05.440 at this point probably likes the Eve pizza, but it's 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:11.720 poor Italian culture, just like tacos are poor Mexican culture, 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:19.640 just like Chitling's is poor slave American culture. Right, and 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.760 then everybody adopts it, and then everybody claims the fame, 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:27.640 and then shit becomes black culture or Italian culture or everybody. Right, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:32.200 But this is really the conversation or the object of 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.280 the poor. Poor people create culture because wealthy people, Bro 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:39.040 don't need to, they're not. Culture is like a kind 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.480 of a forced evolution of get down, Like slang comes 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:45.520 from bad education, bad schooling, you know what I mean, 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.800 like not schooling. That's not teaching a great lesson. I mean, 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:53.440 it's not birthed in the suburbs. You mean, because there 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:57.120 will be no need fashion. The ability to take dickies, 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.920 which is some poor worker clothes every day laborer closed 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.160 and make them a fashion statement could only happen in 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:09.480 the poorest places of Los Angeles. Sure to push your 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:14.720 grandfather's car cubs out the yard, his old fifty eight 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.640 beat up Impala and push it out the yard and 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.280 fix it up and put hydraulics on it and all 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:24.640 of that. Those are statements of poor people trying to 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:29.880 figure out how to enjoy their life. Remember even the 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.880 breaks themselves, right, the breaks is niggas who didn't know 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.679 how to play music finding a break. They if they 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.880 had drummers, they could just play the goddamn break. They 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.520 knew how to drum and had expensive as drum sets, 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:46.120 cause they could just play the breaks. Bro they wouldn't 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:51.120 need to have fucking two turntables to play the fucking breaks. 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.240 You just fucking play the break and guess what, it 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.079 probably wouldn't fucking be a break because at that point 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.040 it be fucking drums. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:00.839 Sure. 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:05.719 Look, one thing poor people do really well. Shout out 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.240 to the ghetto niggas, the Spades and all the niggas 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.720 that created hip hop. Poor people know how to make 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:19.360 being poor look fucking cool. Poor people, hip hop. Hip 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:25.640 hop created poor people looking cool because before that it 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:30.400 was not cool to be poor. Hip Hop created that shit. 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:37.839 Hip hop had wealthy people wearing fucking penaltents. Hip hop 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:41.800 has wealthy people buying cheap shit. And guess what happened 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.839 to the cheap shit. The cheap shit become expensive shit, 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.199 and they fucking core task now is two hundred dollars 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.959 because some poor people said this is cool. That's what 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:57.360 hip hop did. That's what hip hop is. Poor motherfuckers 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.920 making their life look cool and then they present it 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:04.280 to you and you're like, man, look at them motherfuckers. 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:05.520 They having fun. 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:10.400 Still sure, yeah, I don't disagree with that that. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:15.560 Them motherfuckers is having fun. That's how the world look 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.800 hip hop is the first. I'm talking about all over 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:23.920 the world. I'm talking to fuck China, Japan, cuz, fucking Russia, Europe, 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:29.200 any fucking where nobody made poor look cool. Hip hop 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:35.079 made poor look cool. So I get it. You get 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.160 the middle class kids, the upper class kids who want 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.240 to come in and they like man and they they 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:44.880 look cool, so they want to sit at the cool table. 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.840 I know what Drake did. Drake saw that shit. I 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.760 watched Chris Brown. Chris Brown's a fucking millionaire. Chris Brown's 0:13:54.800 --> 0:14:00.880 a millionaire or multi millionaire, a fucking genius, and he 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:04.520 wanted to He wanted to associate and assimilate with the 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:12.160 poor people. That's what hip hop did. Hip Hop took 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:16.160 these poor things cause that we got trapped with and 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:22.760 made them look cool. That's what hip hop is Cuz 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.240 hip hop ain't nothing but the poor people making their 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:34.280 everyday artistic expressions look brilliant. And everybody won't in. Oh, 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:39.520 everybody won't in now, everybody won't in. Everybody won't d 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.600 So Drake saw. So Drake starts his career off. He's like, 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.120 you know what this guy Jay Dill, I've been hearing 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.960 about him. You can look at old interviews, Cause with 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:52.760 Drake on YouTube talking shit about slang, I don't use 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:57.760 that term. I don't even talk like that. This is Drake. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.880 Drake is a fucking middle class kid who grew up 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:04.200 in a George community. Yes, Cus Pops is a brother 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.760 from Memphis, but if you listen to Cuz he didn't 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.120 spend a lot of time with his pops said his 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:10.160 pops wasn't around. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:15.880 Sure, I'm not saying nothing much about Drake says I 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:17.840 was really really raised in Memphis. 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:22.360 No, nothing about Cub says that. Right, But that's the point. 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.520 So people like when if you're just black, hold on, 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:32.880 Black people can be culture vultures too, And that's the 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.280 hardest part for niggas to accept. See, black people can't 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.560 be racism based off of how they redefined racism. Right, 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:43.120 This systemic oppression of the power the economics to truly 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.880 o press the class is what the new definition of 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.680 racism mean. It's no longer supremacy just based off race, 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:52.040 or feeling of supremacy or inferiority based off race. We 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:56.520 passed that. Now it's like the actual you carrying it out. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.320 Do you have the power and the money to carry 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:05.120 out the complet. So that's how they define racism. I'm 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.200 cool with that. Whatever. Cool, same motherfucking thing. What were 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:12.840 we talking about right now? Same shit? So I've been 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:16.280 asking everybody, say, Man, I'm gonna ask you, Pete. We 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:22.400 don't fucking know Shillings, right, I'm gonna ask you. What 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:26.240 kind of cars do Miami street urban guys drive? 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:34.080 Well, everybody knows that box and what's the slang word 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:34.360 for him? 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:37.600 It's not dunks. 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:43.400 It's called dunks, right, that's cool dumps? Right? What kind 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:47.120 of shoes boots do guys from New York wear? The 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.840 street urban guys from New York, what's the brand of 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:51.280 boots they wear? 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.320 Having never been there, I'm only going off a rumor, 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.240 but from what I gather, it's Timberlands. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.720 It's Timberlands, right, Okay? Yes, have you had any idea 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.720 what kind of pants niggas from New Orleans were? Street 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:06.800 urban guys from New Orleans coach. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.320 Like jeebos or something like that. 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:13.480 Or whoa right? Okay, got right? Okay? Jabo's okay? What 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:19.360 kind of wheels do niggas street urban people from Houston 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:20.960 put on their cars? 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:29.200 Eighty four'st baby swinging, right, poking out. Yeah, yeah, pokes Okay. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:33.800 Right, Los Angeles, we wear a jacket. That's not a jacket, 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.520 it's more of a flannel. What's the name of that flannel? 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:37.880 What brand makes that flannel? 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.800 Sh what the Dickies flannel? 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:47.199 The Pendleton flannel, Right, that's what we call flannels. So 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.240 what's funny is we've been calling flannels pendletons so long 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:54.200 that we didn't even realize Pendleton makes a brand of flannels. 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.080 It's not actually the name of the flannel, right, But 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.800 this is how long we've been calling them Pendletons because Pendleton, 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:04.000 it's the fucking flannel. What kind of shoes? LA guys, 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:05.720 If you see an LA guy, you want to know 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:07.160 he's gonna wear what kind of shoes? 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.920 Well, historically it would be Converse All Stars. 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:13.720 Right there, you go. Right, you're a white guy from 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.720 Orange County. Okay, I'm gonna go even deeper because I'm 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.560 gonna go deeper. Sure, this might be a challenge for you. 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.840 It is because this real hip hop knowledge, because true 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:28.280 hip hop not what kind of glasses do street urban 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:35.320 guys from Detroit wear? Oh man, this is gonna be 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.880 tough because you gotta be deep into it. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:40.919 Yeah, and just that's just one of those things I 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.119 just never gave a second thought about. Was like glasses 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:51.160 because I don't wear I don't even wear sunglasses. 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:55.040 Right, so they weare. They're called buffs Cardier, the Cardier glasses. 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:59.320 They call them buffs after Detroit cultural street urban thing. 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:05.880 That's what it is. It's cultural buffs, right, and and 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.880 that's what hip hop presented us to. All of those 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:12.719 things are fashions transportation. If I say give me a 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:19.160 New Orleans street urban slang word, you can say wody. 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:19.800 Yeah. 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.439 If I ask the same thing, you know what Saint Louis, 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:27.120 Let's go to Saint Louis. How do Saint Louis. 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:28.680 Right? 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:35.040 How does a Saint Louis? Niggas say there vern right 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:36.000 with a fucking you. 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:37.760 Right? 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:43.200 She does? Saint Lunatics Click introduced us to fucking Saint 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:45.560 Louis cultures. Why you know. 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:50.040 That sexy red If you didn't know it, wanted her 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.399 saw she said, she says such and such and such. 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:54.960 An and my tongue got a person but like like 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.879 a piercing but it sounds like person exactly. 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:01.960 That's why I argue niggas down, Like, bro, you can't 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.479 tell me Sexy Red ain't fucking Saint Louis culture. This 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:06.359 little bit street urban culture. 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:09.280 She's she named streets. 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:17.560 That ship is pure hip hop. That's like per That 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:22.879 is the culture nigga with a different like nigga. That 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.600 is so much culture, nigga, you probably need to dilute it. 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.120 That's why niggas is mad right now, because Sexy Red 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:33.960 is culture undiluted. That ship pure colt like you need 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:35.960 to cut that. You need to add some pro caine 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:38.399 to that. Some baker so that turned that into rocks. 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.240 So niggas because these niggas can't handle that Peruvian flake. 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:45.479 That little bit is Peruvian flake, nigga. That bitch is pure. 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.399 I mean looking at the old Yeah, this little this 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.199 little bitch is really a hood little bit. I like 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:50.760 this little bit. 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:53.479 Why I was such a fan when shit came out. 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:55.160 I was like, I want to wholesale this ship. 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:58.560 You take this ship, you supposed to wholesale all that 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.720 out to the market, and I get it. You don't 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.520 have to like it pure. Guess what niggas didn't like NWA, 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:09.760 Like the people don't get this. When n w A 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:13.240 fucking came out the way most Black people, especially the 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:17.040 niggas who feel they are sophisticated. They hated n w A. 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.400 The Black churches was the greatest opposition to the song 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:26.080 Fuck the Police, Black people. Black churches was the greatest 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:30.680 opposition to NWA. The Black Church hated on Snoop Dogg 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:36.240 the fucking most. The Black church hated on Snoop Dogg 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:41.439 the most, not the white church, the Black church. 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:45.359 But they liked Kanye. 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:47.200 That's the truth. 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:52.280 And I know because we've made of mister West before. 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:58.440 Boy see, and that's what happened. They think they gonna 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:00.920 get these motherfucking see they got Kanye. See, they thought 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:02.879 snooping and was bad. They was like, these niggas just 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.520 bly bib. These niggas is cool niggas. Dog is just 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:08.880 a nigga from a poor family, nigga trying to get 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:14.040 some coin. Nigga and representing Kanye is like, motherfucking listen, 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.400 you can't control Kanye with no fucking money. You can't 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:22.479 even get cuzz to ease up with no money. He 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:26.000 is the worst type of black person for white people. 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:33.080 He is a fucking savage who don't know clubs with 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:36.480 opportunity and money, and they thought they got one in there. 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:38.520 They tried to sneak cousin there. I thought they had 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:40.959 a cool one that they was gonna swing the pendulum 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:43.800 over to where they could do the same thing Cuz 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.080 they deal with rock, they can do the same thing 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:48.000 in hip hop, because that's really what the goal is. 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:51.800 The goal is do the same thing with hip hop 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:55.480 that you did with rock music. The Dosley Brothers were 0:22:55.480 --> 0:23:00.680 a rock grew. Funkadelic was a rock grew. They were 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:07.520 rock groups, rock groups. Somebody realized firsthand that the labels 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.400 wasn't spending no more money on black rock. So guess 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:12.639 what they did, because they flipped the R and B 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:17.200 and funk. Because at the end of the day, people 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:19.840 still gotta make a living. It's fucking all the Iy Brothers, 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:22.760 five of these motherfuckers, a family of these motherfuckers. You 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:27.280 gotta make money, so we're not. The Isley Brothers first 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:28.680 hit record is a rock song. 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:35.440 Yeah, didn't they get this. They jump started Elton John's career. 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:39.080 Twist and Shout is a rock song. Somebody can to 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:42.280 them niggas and said, hey, they're not going to keep 0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:48.960 putting money into black rock, you better change it better 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.240 and them niggas, dum them niggas went to R and B. 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:54.399 Same thing with Funkadelic, with funka Delic was all them 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.160 rock songs and shit early on. If you better changing shit, 0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:02.040 they not putting dollars into black rock. So now you 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:06.280 look up right, Pete, fifty fucking years later, there's not 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:14.919 a nigga in sight of rock. There's not a nigga 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:20.720 inside of rock. Yeah, ain't no black jazz person gonna 0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:25.840 get no fucking budget. And the same thing is gonna 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:29.200 happen to hip hop if you don't set a parameter 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:33.280 of what's going on, because those same dollars will get 0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:39.680 moved to other shit. If you truly believe in systemic racism, 0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.720 if you truly believe in systemic oppression, bro, if you 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:46.200 truly believe in that shit, then you know, goddamn well, 0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:50.359 they is not trying to give no motherfucking body money, 0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.720 not no person they oppressing. Do you either believe in 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:55.880 it or you don't. If you're a black person, If 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:58.600 you believe in it, you know goddamn well, they're not 0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:00.919 trying to give a nigga no money. So they're trying 0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.840 to figure out how to move the dollars away from 0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:10.679 the ghetto. Why would you empower who you are oppressing? 0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:14.440 Why would you give economics to somebody you oppressing? If 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.959 you believe in oppression. Now, if we don't, we can 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:19.200 have this conversation. We can shake it off, and then 0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:27.080 it's cool. If Drake is hip hop, then it's cool. 0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:30.480 If Drake is hip hop. But if you trying, if 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:35.000 you truly believe hip hop was the ghetto giving giving 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:37.719 voice to the ghetto, because that's what hip hop is. 0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:40.440 Right now, I ask you all these crazy questions, right, 0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:43.200 I ask you some shit all. If I say, give 0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:45.200 me a slang word from New York, how do they 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:46.960 reference each other when they talking to each other? 0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:50.000 Or like son shit son? 0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:50.320 Right? 0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.800 How do La Street urban guys reference each other when 0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:54.680 they talking to each other? 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:56.720 That's on what side they're from? 0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:58.639 Right? Right? Trus blood? 0:25:58.720 --> 0:25:58.800 Right? 0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:02.520 Okay? How the Bay Area niggas? What kind of cars? 0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:06.280 What's the reference of cars that Bay Area niggas ride? 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.200 Damn it, I forgot that. That's have to live there, said, 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:12.280 what do that call us? Goddamn things? 0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:16.400 It's a scraper? Oh yeah, that's right, a fucking scraper. 0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:17.640 That's right. 0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:20.680 And and and and up there everyone. They say blood to. 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:25.719 Everyone in the same sentence. I haven't heard because we 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.800 know this because hip hop gave us all of these things. 0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.280 Hip hop gave us all of these things. I wouldn't 0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:35.879 know ship about Saint Louis if not for the Saint Loan. 0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:38.800 It takes if Nellie and all them niggas and and 0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.719 I Lead and and and Chingy and all these niggas 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:43.560 and teach me about, how the fuck would I know 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.520 unless I was selling dope over there on my summer 0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:47.840 vacation like ice Cue, how the fuck would I know? 0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.600 I fucking wouldn't know. The reason I know how Saint 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.760 Louis niggas talk, what kind of cars, they whatever kind 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.120 of shit they did, is because of some fucking hip hop. 0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:00.639 Because them niggas brought the culture to Watts and it 0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:06.520 took over Watts. Saint Louis Culch, it took over Watts, 0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:11.160 but we got it through hip hop, right, So we 0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:14.119 had this commisation. Give me one motherfucking thing you know 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.760 about Toronto. Drake got thirteen albums, seven hundred and sixty 0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:21.399 six songs, fucking a million videos. You can't tell me 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.840 one of these things you know about fucking Toronto. They 0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.919 do not say whoa Quinn Miller wrote that that's fucking 0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.199 New Orleans. Tell me what kind of cars do Toronto 0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:31.960 niggas drive? What's they called? 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:34.480 Thought they use? I thought they used public transportation up there. 0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:37.480 Yes, it sounds cool. Tell me the car. Give me 0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:40.119 a car. Give me a car, Toronto nigga drive. You 0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.080 just said, you just said to Miami niggas, Chevy Vault. 0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:50.960 Fucking you just you just said, right, you just said 0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:57.240 New Orleans niggas, right, they drive dumps. Yeah, you just 0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.200 said the bearry nigga drive scrapers, La niggas. What the 0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.119 car do l A niggas drive? Street urban niggas in 0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:04.640 La rider? 0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:05.359 Right? 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:08.399 Okay, right, you got that right to win. Tell me 0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.040 the car Toronto niggas drive. Give me the car. 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:17.960 Did it's the Chevy Vault, the street electric cars or 0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.840 the Honda Leaf. I think they drive the Honda Leaf 0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:22.040 because that whole maple leaf. 0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:23.560 Thing, the Honda. 0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:28.320 I had an idea real quick for a great opportunity 0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.439 for Drake. I've been thinking this for years. This is 0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:35.000 years old observation that if he really wanted to make 0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:40.680 a great Canadian song, he could do the juvenile huh 0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:45.560 and instead and every sentence in a like Canadians. 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.520 So please wrap that for me. 0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:51.960 I don't know, I don't have I don't have the 0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.200 bars on me. I just know that, you know what 0:28:55.640 --> 0:29:02.720 like like juveniles a Canadians. 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:06.240 Sometimes I forget you a comic because because you smart. 0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.960 But did you fuck this dude? Okay? So my point 0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:13.720 is right, So you don't know, right, Okay, So you 0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.440 can't tell me. You could tell me that the La 0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:20.160 Niggas drive Lo Los. You can tell me that the 0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:26.280 Miami Niggas street urban guys, right, donks tell me the 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.640 Bay Area radscrapers. But you can't tell me. 0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:35.040 The only singular observation that I have for Drake having 0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:42.960 any proximal association with Toronto is his business relationship with 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.120 like Popcorn and some of the Jamaican artists. Because of 0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.760 the Caribbean presence in Toronto. That's it. 0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.320 But there that might and that might be serendipitous anyway. 0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.040 But the but the Caribbean presence is also in New York. 0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:59.200 But there is a street urban culture in Toronto. Toronto 0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.160 is not this hell a nice place that everybody's doing 0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:08.320 well and every last person has money. Toronto. Nigga got ghettos. 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.640 And the reason you have no fucking idea is because 0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.800 this nigga is not from the ghetto. He's not close 0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.640 to the ghetto. He don't he barely know niggas from 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:22.880 the ghetto. This is a middle class kid who grew 0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.120 up in a Jewish community. On television. 0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.920 Yes, from what I gather, so. 0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.000 I can ask you a thousand things. You don't know 0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:37.760 what kind of cars they drive. Give me lingo, give 0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:39.160 me Toronto lingo. 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:46.440 Six tried with a If that fails, I got nothing. 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:51.560 You've been making music professionally for fifteen, sixteen years sixteen. 0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:55.960 His music sounds like to me, it's sound because he's 0:30:56.000 --> 0:31:00.560 a good, you know, writer of rhyming lines. I feel 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:08.120 like he just goes on Twitter and aggregates, like whatever phrases. 0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.360 He looks at what's going on on Black Twitter, and 0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:17.480 he makes a song about it. Yeah, whenever things get hot, 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.480 he'd be like, Okay, that's that. Madonna does the same thing. 0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:24.960 That's what pop artists do. They take the very top 0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:26.920 of the urban culture that's coming through the underground and 0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:31.200 they take it and then they represent it. Yeah, Drake 0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:37.000 had a song with Dirt talking about he spun blocks. 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.760 Can I make a really off color joke? 0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:42.520 Please? 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:43.320 Please please? 0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:46.400 Was that not a Dradle reference? 0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:51.239 Wow? No, that's not what it was, Pete's not what 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.240 it was. 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:54.840 I'm trying to learn. 0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:59.560 My building is extremely Orthodox Jewish, so I'm learning little 0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.520 nuanced is like those little scrolls by the doorway and stuff. 0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:05.680 Everyone down my hallway and that, and they don't use 0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:07.880 the elevators like on the weekends and stuff like that. 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.560 They all take the stairs I'm picking up. There's there's 0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.480 not a cultural footprint like the one that I'm in 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:15.160 back in California like that. 0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:21.600 Well, this is the weird part, right, this is the 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.400 weird part. I'm Joey here steal his stell man. Make 0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.120 sure it's still still still. 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.320 I heard her rumor that steels coming on. That must 0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:29.000 have been a lie. 0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.520 Yeah, still is crazy. Okay. So this is the point, right, 0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.000 And this is another thing that's abused. Right when people 0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:37.320 hear elements, and they hear the five fucking elements. And 0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.560 I hate talking to niggas about this because they think 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:43.000 they get what it means, but they fucking get it. Listen, 0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:52.360 m seeing existed before hip hop dancing existed before hip hop. 0:32:53.800 --> 0:33:00.600 DJing existed before hip hop. Graffiti existed before hip hop. 0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:06.040 Hip Hop didn't create any of these things, and these 0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:10.440 things are not mutually exclusive to hip hop, like rapping 0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:15.840 or him singing is not exclusively only to hip hop. 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:22.880 Singing is not exclusively only to R and B. So 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:27.600 people like, well he raps, he's an MC. That's gonna 0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:30.960 be often. You're gonna hear that so fucking much right 0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:35.000 now because hip hop popularized him singing rapping to another 0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:39.440 level that everybody from different genres can take it and 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.320 adapt it and use it for their own fucking music. 0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:47.880 The elements are ways you express the culture. It's not 0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:53.840 the act itself, it's expressing the culture through those ways. Artistically, 0:33:56.200 --> 0:34:02.160 DJ's been around, bro, niggas been at DJs, niggas been 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:06.280 had DJs. Bro, djn ain't nothing new. They jan old 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:09.520 as fuck. You thought DJ started. 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:14.719 In the fucking seventies, never gave it any thought. 0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:17.920 Actually, DJ and didn't start in the seventies. There was 0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:21.480 fucking disco DJs the fucking DJ's way before that, bro. 0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.760 But that was the sixties. The seventies. Disco was the seventies. 0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:31.920 Dj I'm saying before it listen, even before it was 0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:38.960 before hip hop, Joe Text was rapping niggas being graffiti. 0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:39.480 Like. 0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.600 People keep thinking hip hop created the elements, No, they didn't. 0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:47.759 They popularized the elements. But hip hop is when you 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:52.400 express the arts through these elements. That's what they're referencing 0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:56.640 as hip hop. Now that can be involved in right filmmaking. 0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.120 There's going to be a filmmaking style of hip hop 0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:03.560 coming that would be growth. That would be an evolution, 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:11.040 That would be an evolution. That and only that would 0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:14.000 be an evolution. It's not an evolution because you allowing 0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.920 white fucking people to do fucking music. That's not what 0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:23.120 an evolution is. It's notop bro. And so I can 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.880 go down a list of things that you cannot tell 0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:29.920 me about Toronto street urban lifestyle, because even though you 0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:38.040 heard Drake fourteen albums, fourteen albums, endless videos, interviews, sixteen 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.640 years of presence, you will not be able to tell 0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:44.360 me one thing about street urban lifestyle in Toronto because 0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:48.919 Drake hasn't ever told you any of it. But yet 0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:52.120 you knew. Yet you knew the first fucking time you 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:56.239 heard Snoop Dogg. The first time you saw Doctor Drake, 0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:00.359 you knew what kind of cars. The first album Doctor 0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.600 Dre put out The Chronic, the first album. You knew 0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:06.759 what kind of cars. La guys drive, LA Street Urban 0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.759 guys j were. The first Doctor Dre video, the first one, 0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:15.040 Not fucking Drake. Cubs got forty video, fifty sixty videos. 0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:20.480 You still have no fucking idea. The first Doctor Dre video, 0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:27.439 You knew what type of cars Los Angeles Street Urban 0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:36.919 lifestyle guys drive. The first song, the first song bro, 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:40.480 The first juvenile video you ever saw in your life. Hi, 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.920 you knew what kind of pants New Orleans Street urban 0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:45.600 guys wore. 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:48.880 And we knew they wore rebox down there. 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.799 Right there the first day, the first video you saw 0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:56.719 from juvenile on a mainstream level. You knew culturally what 0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:00.960 New Orleans street fashion was about. You knew how they talked. 0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:04.640 You heard certain words like whoa dad? You like, what 0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:09.160 the fuck is that? That was New Orleans slang and 0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:12.480 reference how they communicate with each other. You learned that 0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:19.800 the first juvenile video Drake is seventy videos in CAUZ 0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:25.359 And you still don't know none of this shit, None 0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:27.920 of this shit. You don't know, and there's not no 0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:30.479 other reason besides the fact he is not hip hop. 0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:34.040 He's had a lowrider in his video. He did the 0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:42.279 motto and put a lowrider under the Bay Bridge. He 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:47.440 put a lowrider under the Bay Bridge. 0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.120 He does make some women's hair references though, from time 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:50.560 to time. 0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.759 He put a lowrider under the Bay Bridge. 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:06.319 Yeah, somebody asked me disrespected by that? 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.359 Yes, we felt disrespected by that. 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:11.960 I would too. I would too. 0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.520 Why the fuck would you put a lowrider under the 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:18.600 Bay Bridge? Because guess what, when you're from outside of 0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:22.520 the culture, you see it as just West Coast culture. 0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:25.600 It's the Bay Area Bridge and lowriders. They go together, 0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:34.719 It's California because you're not fucking from the culture. So 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.120 you saw all this shit, you heard all these other 0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:40.880 niggas lingos in his song Spun the Block Woes blah 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:44.160 blah blah. Right, but sixth war Brid conversation that he 0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:46.239 turned six into Toronto, even though I mean six ward 0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:48.520 to last, all this dose shit that you hear, but 0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:53.759 you still don't know one mother fucking thing about mother 0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:58.520 fucking Toronto because guess why, I don't know where fucking 0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:02.040 Madonna's from either. And I don't know shit about where 0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:04.680 people from where Madonna is from, because I don't know 0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:06.839 nothing about him, because you don't know shit about pop 0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:10.839 artists because pop artists don't sell no motherfucking cultures. 0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.880 Similarly, and this might be a little unpopular, I learned 0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.560 very little about Gary Indiana from Michael Jackson. 0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:26.200 And this is why I don't compare Michael Jackson and 0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.239 Drake Like. Somebody said it to me, well, why would 0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.640 you reference him like Madonna? And I explained to him, 0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.920 I said, Madonna used to do the same thing with 0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:38.160 urban music. She would take urban music, the highlights of it, 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:43.000 and turn it into pop songs. Right now, shit was dope. 0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:47.440 The hood niggas love Madonna, but we all knew she was. 0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.480 How much of that was her, like like on the 0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:55.319 production sort of side, how much of Madonna that we 0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:59.440 saw and result was actually the fruit of Madonna versus 0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:04.560 just an apparatus that said, here's this woman that we 0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:05.880 could sure. 0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:06.720 Because she's not a prep. 0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.040 Yeah, you know what I think if it happened, because 0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.480 that's similar maybe with Michael to a. 0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.400 Degree, he had a right I'm gonna tell you why 0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.080 it's different, Right, I think it has to be Madonna's 0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.760 mind because it was so consistent. Eventually, like so, maybe 0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:25.239 it doesn't start that way. Maybe you know, she has 0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.440 her own max more than like like like, that's. 0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:28.279 Why I would think it isn't. 0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.840 But but I'm gonna tell you why. Eventually, because artists 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:35.839 grow powerful and they start to carry out their own visions. Yeah, 0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:40.400 her really, yes, So I genuinely believe somewhere along the 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.080 line it has something to do with her. But this 0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:44.880 is why I don't compare. This is why I reference 0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:49.280 Kanye as closer to Michael Jackson than a Drake. Michael 0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:55.360 Jackson is brought up in R and B. Sure, Michael 0:40:55.440 --> 0:41:00.320 Jackson was brought up in R and B. Michael Jackson's 0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:03.440 kids and Gary and Diana grew up in Gary, Indiana, 0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.600 move to LA and it was brought up in R 0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:10.560 and B through the Motown system. Michael Jackson five is 0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:17.360 an R and B group, right who had pop success. 0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:21.880 That's why I always call Kanye West Michael Jackson. Kanye 0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:30.320 West is Michael Jackson. Drake is Madonna likek at that 0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:35.399 Kanye came up like Michael Jackson. His mom brought him 0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:37.879 up in the black experience of being black. He may. 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:40.359 I'm not sure where him in poverty sits at. Maybe 0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:43.080 as far you know, this is a whole other conversation, 0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:45.120 but you know, maybe it's not as far. I know, 0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.600 he wasn't raised in the ghetto, you know what I mean. 0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:52.840 And again, there are some exceptions to the rule in 0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:56.399 the conversation hip hop hip hop being ghetto, right, there 0:41:56.400 --> 0:42:00.360 are some exceptions to the rules. But the fucking exception 0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:01.960 is not the fucking rule. 0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:07.080 Of course, the exception is not Bro. 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:14.839 The exception is not the mother fucking rule. This is 0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:18.279 not an assassination on Drake. This is not like the 0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:21.960 attempt to to demote Drake, like Bro. Drake is fucking 0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:23.040 fantastic as a. 0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:28.480 Drake is gonna be fine because he's he's over talented. 0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:31.160 His ear for the game is dope. Forty's ear for 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:34.439 the game is dope. These niggas are scientists at this ship, 0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:36.880 and Drake is not shabby with that. P in the 0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:40.200 nigga game is nice. The nigga's a talented mc or. 0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:42.839 He can hold a note well enough to be a 0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:47.600 really decent singer, so he's fantastic. He studies the game. 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.439 He studies the game, so that's going to always work. 0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.520 He will be just fine, you know what I mean, 0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.359 if he's not declared. I had to think about this. 0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:59.000 If he's not declared a hip hop artist, does it 0:42:59.120 --> 0:42:59.839 really hurt him? 0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:00.120 Know? 0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:03.960 But if you make him a hip hop artist, it 0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:08.919 hurts the ghetto because guess why the motherfucking suits are 0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:14.240 not stupid. Business is simple. If I can get somebody 0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:17.440 that looks like me to take over where something is 0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:21.040 successful and this is the mass population, they're going to 0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:27.560 sell more naturally, that's simple marketing. This that could be me. 0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.600 Eminem is an outstanding MC, I know right now. That's 0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.280 the thing. Hate on Eminem and whatever reason, these niggas 0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:36.440 got this thing going on where they hate on Eminem. 0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:38.439 Look and real, what are you talking about with that? 0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:42.319 I'm not an Eminem fan? Like, well, I'm music a 0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:43.959 bundantly talented I mean, like for. 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.040 Sure, like I like what I genuinely think it started 0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:50.319 follow I started being I think it started with Xeno 0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:52.440 on them. When Zeno on Them started that b for M. 0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:55.000 You start seeing all these other narratives and now these 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.560 narratives have legs and they've grown to be eight feet tall. 0:43:58.560 --> 0:43:59.520 What are they like? 0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.160 I'm like narrative is that he's not this or I 0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:04.239 don't relate to his life, or he's not tight. The 0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:06.760 main one is he's not good. That shit is crazy, 0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.600 is ridiculous. And this is coming from a rapper because 0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:15.600 the rappers rapper bro, songwriter, songwriter, songwriter, songwriter, rappers rapper 0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.040 bro that nigga is nice, bro that nigga is nice 0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.719 on every level. He's a street urban kid, grew up 0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.080 in the same type of poverty. That's the idea, right boom, 0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:25.840 That's all it ever been. But the thing now is 0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:30.240 to hate on cuz that's the tream because to hate 0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.879 on this dude. So now you know what I mean, 0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.279 I get it. And you look at Eminem for even 0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:37.960 as fantastic as he is, you know what I mean. 0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:40.319 I do think there's other rappers that's great, Like jay 0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:43.360 Z is probably as great as Eminem. Buster Rhymes is 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:46.040 probably his greatest Eminem, Lil Wayne is probably his greatest 0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:49.719 Eminem Snoop daughter, you know what I mean. All these 0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:52.439 niggas are as great as Eminem in their own respective rights. 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.480 They do all the same things and they're just as great. 0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:58.520 But it's the reason why this motherfucker got two diamond albums. 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:01.839 Yeah, I mean, it's a short list of people. That's 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:03.040 the reason what he does. 0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:06.360 It's a reason why Little Wayne don't got one diamond album. 0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:10.520 It's the reason why Snoop Dog don't have one diamond album. 0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:13.120 It's the reason why Eminem has two diamond albums. This 0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:14.719 is not a shot of Eminem. Eminem is a white 0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:18.399 man that's unbelievably talented in this culture thing we called 0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:21.719 hip hop, how we expressed all these problems. He is fantastic, 0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.000 But goddamn it, you can't tell me white folk don't 0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:26.359 see cuz and think like that could be me. It's 0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:30.880 the reason he died that hair blonde. This ain't buy 0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.200 no motherfucking mistake. This is not a shot to him. 0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.319 I'm not in that pool of guys talking shit about 0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:39.080 mm is desert. He is fantastic. Stand is one of 0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.399 the greatest stories in the history of hip hop. Top five. 0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:45.200 It's a cultural phenomena. You word we reference to niggas 0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:47.239 like that to this day. This nigga is an outstanding 0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.680 songwriter in MC. He's fucking fantastic. But goddamn, this nigga 0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:54.399 got two diamond albums. Man, So these people know, if 0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:56.360 they can get hip hop in the hands of people 0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.759 that look like the mass of the population, it's going 0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:04.360 to be easier to sell. So if I am not 0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:08.080 saying Drake is not hip hop because he doesn't carry 0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:15.680 the burden of culture, then you get Jack Harlowe. Yeah, 0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:19.319 and guess what Jack is, dope. Jack happened to be 0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:22.600 one of those kids who grew up liking niggas, fucking 0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:26.000 with the fucking with fucking with niggas. Jack is one 0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:27.960 of those kids who grew up that happened to be 0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:31.200 a decent motherfucking white man out of Kentucky that fuck 0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:37.400 with niggas. But the next one not, the next one not, 0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:40.719 and next thing you look up is rock and roll. 0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:43.919 It won't be a fucking dollar for black fucking hip hop. 0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.759 That's my point. Now, I'm not on the crusade to 0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:50.160 declare Drake out of hip hop, but I'm not gonna 0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:52.320 lie no different than most death because I'm not finna 0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.080 get on these stages and not give my thoughts or 0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:57.480 my studies. I'm not with that, I'm not down for that. 0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.160 I'm gonna say it because it don't matter. This nigga's 0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:02.800 a pop icon He's not gonna lose one dollar based 0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.080 off of him not being hip hop. He would always 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:08.120 be a pop success. He took rap went pop with it. 0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:11.560 Post Malone took rap hip hop and went pop with it. 0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.080 They took this shit and walked another doors. Look at 0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:17.600 Machine Gun Kelly. Machine Gun Kelly from Cleveland was trying 0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:19.360 to convince us he was the most damn nigga in 0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:20.600 the world. Look at this shit now. 0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:26.720 I think I saw him on TV at the gym 0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:28.880 a couple of days ago on a rerun of Ellen. 0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:30.200 Is that correct? 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:37.120 He get to be white again. Good for him, feel me, 0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:40.840 my boy get to be white? My boy, Like I 0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:43.480 remember seeing Machine Gun Kelly in this East Side till 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:45.960 Our Dog. I was like, man, this nigga hard. And 0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:48.319 then I was like, well and it was like all 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:51.960 the niggas behind you. I was like, man, this shit hard. 0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:53.520 But then I thought of it. I was like, I 0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:55.560 don't know, man, let me let this shit now. Look 0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:57.319 at this nigga. This nigga don't look like he knew 0:47:57.320 --> 0:48:00.960 a nigga now. Again, that's not that I'm not. 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.360 I feel a little bit of that same similar vibe, 0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:08.000 kind of with the Vanilla Ice when I see him now, 0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:10.759 I think he's like some dude from Norco or. 0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:13.879 Something like that when he turned in to a white man. 0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:17.640 Yeah, and it didn't seem like it came up that way, 0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:20.880 at least from his little bios. 0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:25.560 So my point is, if you don't declare Drake in 0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:31.879 the pop category, what you do is you guaranteed, you're gallteed. 0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:39.600 You're guaranteed Bro to move dollars away from black hip hop. 0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:47.600 You guarantee to move black dollars out of hip hop. 0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:51.960 That's why it's important we keep the fucking point again. 0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:55.480 This is not a charade against Drake Bro. Like niggas 0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:58.040 love Drake Bro. Drake is like Lebron James. You can't 0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:01.640 dislike or like Lebron James. You just dislike fans, Like 0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:04.800 nobody dislikes Lebron James. Bro, you just dislike Lebron fans. 0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.719 His fans think he died on the Cross because got 0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:09.400 hung up on the cross and died for their sins. 0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:12.759 Lebron James don't really ever say something that's too far 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.320 for you to like him or dislike him. Lebron James 0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:19.560 is like Hick Hima Bro. He don't have flavor he's 0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:21.719 always reading the first page of the book. You can't 0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:23.520 even judge if he read the fucking book. 0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:32.839 True small things politically to where you could be like, yep, 0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:36.840 you know what, that was the right thing to say. 0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:43.120 That's Drake. They don't have enough flavor for you to 0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:45.480 tell if you like Howard taste or not. You just 0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:50.200 respect the fact that everybody sells this food product, and 0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:53.920 this food product, you know it has is digestible. That's it. 0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:59.400 Drake Got Jams NonStop is my favorite Drake song. It's 0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:02.880 against the song and I enjoy it. I enjoy it 0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:08.279 like I enjoy Backstreets back everybody that's a hard fump song. 0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:13.239 Bomb boom bomb Drake is like that, isn't there who 0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:16.759 spinning the block? Or you're gonna get a hit put 0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:19.080 out on a nigga? No, And that's fine. I don't 0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:22.000 gotta believe you. But I also understand when somebody outside 0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:25.319 of the culture is using the conversation to make a 0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:33.879 really good song, sure, sure to make a really great song. 0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:37.240 And that's what he does. He will take the hottest 0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:40.480 ship in urban culture, whatever is happened the street or 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:42.399 the culture, hottest ship and be like, I'm a fuck 0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:45.240 with that. He went to Atlanta and he heard Vasace. 0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:55.080 He was like, Basachi Vasachi, Vassachi, Pasachi, Vasachi, Vasaci Fasachi. 0:50:56.200 --> 0:51:01.359 Yeah, I mean he's he's he's like a aggregator of. 0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:05.759 What was the name of that old website that they 0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:08.440 used to always have, like urban gos like Bossip or 0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:11.320 something like that or one of them. 0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:15.520 Yeah, he heard that in a Landa. He was like 0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:18.920 that right there, them little niggas got them one. I'm 0:51:18.920 --> 0:51:21.799 gonna jump on that. He heard Draco. Draco was like 0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:24.680 a phenomenon out of Los Angeles, a cultural phenomenon. He 0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:27.080 was like, Lena, get on that Draco stuff down there. 0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:32.759 It's no crime. I think that's dope. I love you 0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:36.279 trying to empower the culture. Still we at the very 0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:41.040 end of this motherfucker, I be still motherfucker. But I 0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:43.560 Lee didn't know, like I think it's an Instagram. I'm like, nah, 0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:44.840 I lead, like you got it. I would have to 0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:48.320 send you the link from you know, YouTube from stream 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:52.840 yard from stream yard. But still, this was a revolutionary 0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:54.200 conversation that I just had with. 0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:56.680 Pete bout Drake. 0:51:57.560 --> 0:51:58.600 What's not about Drake? 0:51:58.680 --> 0:51:58.799 Bro? 0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:02.759 Like break is awesome? Bro, like he's a great guy. 0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:08.800 Like there's nothing for real, Bro, I'm gonna tell him unbelievable. 0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:14.200 Forty is even more phenomenal. The producer forty that nigga is. 0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:20.279 Noah is incredible. Them niggas is incredible. Them niggas are 0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.160 like Max fucking martin Is. I don't make Max more 0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:26.799 than a fucking funk producer. I don't give a fuck 0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:30.200 how much Max Morton take funk and make these fucking 0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:33.120 Backstreet songs in six songs, a Brittish Spears song, whatever, 0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:38.560 fucking songs. That don't mean he fucking Rit James. That's it. 0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:42.759 That's all I'm saying. He still ain't Rick James. 0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:47.520 Well, we talked about it earlier, right. Hip hop is 0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:50.560 one of those genres that has a very easy barrier 0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:55.120 to entry. You don't instruments, you don't have to, you don't, 0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:58.239 you don't. You don't necessarily even have to be a 0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:00.960 skilled songwriter because they can give you the beat with 0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:01.680 the hook on there. 0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:04.880 All right, Yes, And that's the problem with the ship 0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:08.680 that we create, poor people create. It has the least 0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:13.200 barriers of entry. Tacos now, the even nigga putting shrimp 0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:16.400 in it. Niggas act like that came oxtails in the taco. 0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:20.840 Broacos are a little oxy mouronic. 0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:24.560 Drake exactly. That's what I'm saying, Pete. It's a fucking 0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:29.040 nice oxy mouronic. How the fuck this is a taco 0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.160 is because you didn't have a lot of money and 0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:33.360 you took the last of the meats with the facts 0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:36.120 in it the ship and you put it. You wanted 0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:38.200 to feed your kids. You didn't have enough shit, so 0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:40.640 you took some flour. You made this tort ten, and 0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:42.640 you got the worst of the meats, and you seizon 0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:44.359 up a little bit. You put it in there, and 0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:46.560 you you made that white because you knew that little 0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:49.360 taco was gonna feed your fucking family. You knew that 0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:52.680 was gonna make everybody huh. 0:53:52.840 --> 0:53:55.320 You see the same thing with podcasts. You know everybody 0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:56.920 has a podcast. 0:53:57.440 --> 0:54:01.520 I don't even I'm just saying tacos. Man. Now, these 0:54:01.600 --> 0:54:04.520 niggas is putting expensive meats in the fucking tacos. You 0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:08.640 fucking a taco up, bro, I don't want no motherfucking 0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:10.840 flaming your taco. I don't even fucking go together. 0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:14.799 Why taco out of guy's mouth? 0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:18.160 Why would you take a fucking quality piece of steak 0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:22.680 and cover it up with cheap flouring tortilla, or why 0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:23.759 the fuck would you do that? 0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:27.960 I don't know if there's nothing wrong with making Actually 0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:29.480 that sounds pretty interesting to the. 0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:31.520 Past, and I hate you niggas. That's what happened to 0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:33.640 rot Yo. You know what, the white people playing the sound, 0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:37.239 they're pretty interesting. Let Jerry Lee Lewis play man. Just 0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:41.000 let him no, stop putting flaming on in the fucking tacos. 0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:43.520 Stop putting ice telling the fucking tacos man. 0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:46.120 Well, gee, I know I got on late. My apologies, 0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:47.920 long story. I'll tell you about it when we get off, 0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:50.760 but I'm gonna tell you what's going on with hip hop. 0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:54.040 Since hip hop has the easiest barrier to entry, you 0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:56.800 have a lot of people who aren't really invested in 0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:59.120 the into the culture that may want to be a singer. 0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:03.200 They want everybody or to come in to do something else. 0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:06.120 They just you post Malone came up in this motherfucker 0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:09.000 like he was Alan Iverson. I'm white Iverson, bitch, you 0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:11.640 not nothing, You're. 0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:16.120 A white He probably wanted to be a country Western 0:55:16.200 --> 0:55:19.080 singer but didn't have the best vocals, and they wasn't. 0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:22.160 Going from the autotune and the Shiites. What you walk 0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:25.360 in the door through hiproblem because him, because poor people. 0:55:25.400 --> 0:55:27.920 We just want to fuck with niggas and you might 0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:29.960 got some money. We want to change our life, so 0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:32.880 we're gonna let you in our door. I can't be 0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:35.600 mad at us, bro we poor. I can't be mad 0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:37.600 at the culture. We poor man. We just want to 0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.320 live a good life. And we think money is the problem. 0:55:40.400 --> 0:55:42.800 It ain't hit us shit that drugs is our problem. 0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:45.120 My call is our problem. Fucking bitch is not being 0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:47.280 with our kids. All problemly ain't hit us all the problems. 0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:49.360 That's the real problems white people created for us. We 0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:52.840 think the one problem in the community is money. Well, 0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:54.480 if I get some money, it's gonna fix everything. And 0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:57.000 it don't fix shit. So you let him fucking post 0:55:57.080 --> 0:55:59.719 malone up in this motherfucker and cousins wearing an Alan 0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:03.160 and Iverson jersey they got this Allen Iverson fucking jersey On, 0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:06.319 got this fucking Allen Iverson jersey on. And you're like, 0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:08.640 he's the white Iverson and he's doing donuts and a 0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:11.680 fucking phantom. Yeah, niggas is gonna fuck with it. He said, 0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:14.279 our favorite fucking guy got the fucking NBA and he 0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:18.120 got a fucking uh of Rose Royce doing donuts. Yes, 0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:21.160 we're fucking with it. And then he gets in the 0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:23.480 motherfucking door that we open for his whole ass, and 0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:25.359 then he's like, man, fuck y'all niggas, I'm not one 0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:29.320 of y'all. Bitch you just saying you was Iverson. Iverson 0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:33.400 is one of us. They all use hip hop to 0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:35.680 get in the fucking door and then they leave it 0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:39.839 for shit. And I'm tired of niggas acting like this, 0:56:39.840 --> 0:56:41.960 saying what's happening, because this is what. 0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:44.319 Happens, and it's been happening for a while. 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:47.440 And I respect all the letting him in. I respect 0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:49.399 all the brothers who letting him in because they want 0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:52.280 to change their lives. Shout out to my nigga drama. 0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:53.839 Shout out to all the niggas who want to change 0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:55.719 theiry life and came from these backgrounds and be like, 0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:57.840 you know what, I just want to win. I just 0:56:57.880 --> 0:56:59.640 want to make a living. But god damn it, we 0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:01.399 got the We can't act like we don't know what's 0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:03.880 going on. And You can't be mad at me, cousin, 0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:06.400 because I'm saying the truth. I'm not saying something you 0:57:06.400 --> 0:57:08.759 don't know. And if you didn't know, cause you need 0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:12.400 to listen and get school and get this work because 0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:15.520 it's important. The same thing happened to Rock, Bro, the 0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:19.240 same fucking thing happened to Rock, and you look up 0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:22.080 and now you can't get a black dollar into rock. 0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:24.280 And you know, niggas ain't finna do nothing, ain't gonna 0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:26.480 make him no money because they gotta change their life. 0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:31.479 They gotta change their fucking life, Bro, they gotta change 0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:35.120 their life. This is no shade to Drake, and I'm 0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:37.439 tired of niggas make it life. What I'm saying makes 0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:39.720 Drake not talented or makes Drake not though, and I 0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:42.120 don't gonna fucking Drake the mad glasses. Hey, nigga, I'm 0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:45.160 not hating on you, cuz I don't get a fuck 0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:47.720 not hating on you. Nigga. I'm happy for you. I'm 0:57:47.720 --> 0:57:50.160 glad you want, I'm glad you at the cool table. 0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:53.800 I'm glad you made it. But don't motherfucking forget it's 0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:55.920 a bunch of other ghetto niggas that you're not sign it. 0:57:57.880 --> 0:57:59.880 That's what this shit was made for, ghetto niggas to 0:57:59.880 --> 0:58:04.200 make take away out. You're not signing ghetto niggas, you 0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:07.520 sign it. Fucking what's the little dude? The fucking tools 0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:11.160 namt Maconaan, you're not signing ghetto niggas. 0:58:13.040 --> 0:58:14.479 Well. Macona might be good. 0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:19.840 No, he not. I'm not mad at that dog. It's 0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:23.080 not his responsibility. But you know what, it's our responsibility. 0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:26.640 And that's the thing about being black. Being black is 0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:29.160 not about how people treat you, because at that point 0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:32.720 everybody will feel black. Latino people will feel black, everybody 0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:34.840 will feel black if it's based off how white people 0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:37.919 treat you. Being black is how we treat each other. 0:58:38.240 --> 0:58:41.920 Being street urban especially is about us taking care of 0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:45.160 each other. That's what hip hop still is. 0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:50.120 The man the man is response before it all. 0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:57.840 Peter good looking out for tuning into The note Seller's podcast. 0:58:58.080 --> 0:59:01.440 Please do us a favorite, subscribe, rate, commentist share. This 0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:03.760 episode was recorded right here on the West Coast of 0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:07.120 the USA and produced by My Homeboy A King for 0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:10.760 the Black Effect Podcast Network and No Heart Radio. 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