1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: My brother ditched his own wedding and ruined his life. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: So my brother thirty eight has always been an a hole, 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: but this is next level even for him. He's a 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: drinker that has long stretches a sobriety before falling off 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: the wagon pretty hard. He has been drinking again recently, 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: but during his stagno a couple of weeks back, he 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: was completely well behaved. He was drinking most of the day, 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: was perfectly pleasant and responsible to everybody, and went to 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: bed with no issues. By the way, this comes from 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: the Mighty Hucks on the Okay storytime severed it Now. 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: On top of all of that, he's never been completely trustworthy, 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: always doing the minimum out of work he can to 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: get by, and often hooks up with the kind of 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: women that are lonely and willing to do everything for him. 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: For the last several years he's been with a very 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: kind lady who still fits that description. This girl can 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: do it all, painting, decorating, plumbing, fixing cars, anything she 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: sets her mind to, Absolutely the opposite of my brother. 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: She asked him to get married, and after he said yes, 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: she went to work, putting months of time and effort 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: into planning and buying everything to make it perfect, including 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: his own suit, shoes, et cetera. And she was working 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: overtime to make this happen. The night before the wedding, 24 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: she was up late decorating the venue, whilst he was 25 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: at the pub having a few beers with the father 26 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: of the bride and his best man. Around twelve am, 27 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: those guys decided enough was enough and it was time 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: for bed. My brother wanted to head into town, and 29 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: the guys were telling him not to be so stupid 30 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: and escorted him to his hotel room. Cut to around 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: eight am the next morning. My sister is doing the 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: bride's hair and makeup. My mother and Auntie are dressing 33 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: up the young bridesmaids, and everyone there is as happy 34 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: as you could imagine. Meanwhile, the father of the bride 35 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: and the best man are unable to contact my brother 36 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: and after gaining access to his room, realize he's not there. 37 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: And the bed was clearly. 38 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: It's the hangover. It's the hangover. 39 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen the hangover. 40 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: Classic movie Whee The Hangover was Counts and Keeps Bradley Cooper. 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: I might have seen that they're partying before the wedding. Yeah, 42 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: or they're partying in Vegas. They need to get back 43 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: to the wedding and where they're from. And then they 44 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: supposedly they do a lot of drugs and then they 45 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: lose the groom and they need to find the groom. 46 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: I have to get to the wedding in time. Yeah, 47 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: is what this is. 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: They start frantically trying to call and go out looking 49 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: services at twelve thirty pm. He finally answers at around 50 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: ten thirty, telling the best man to calm down, he's 51 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: coming back soon. Jim. It was a tiger or something 52 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: in There was a tiger there. There's music and laughter 53 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: in the background, and he's clearly at some kind of party. 54 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: He then hangs up and turns his phone off. An 55 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: hour later, there's still no sign, and the guys make 56 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: the decision to head to the Ladies hotel next door 57 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: and tell them. 58 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: What's ah not not bro not bro Cone. You gotta 59 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: find them on the midom fire before you tell the woman. 60 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure you can imagine. The scene is such a 61 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: happy morning turns to one of complete devastations. That's so sad, 62 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: with the father and mother of the bride balling into 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: each other's arms, the bride hysterical being consoled by my 64 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: sister and bridesmaids, my mother Auntie, and the best man 65 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: watching all of this and feeling heartbroken and also complete embarrassing. 66 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: Because they were like partying with him ye before messed up. 67 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 1: It got to twelve fifteen, with the bride holding out 68 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: hope for the final few seconds before realizing it was 69 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: over and they had to cancel. And that was that. 70 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: The next time my brother was seen was randomly by 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: a wedding reception guest that turned up at the wrong 72 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: hotel about three point thirty pm. 73 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: He was drinking in. 74 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 1: A bar over the road on his own, and when 75 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: asked what the heck he was doing, just played it 76 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: off with, Eh, what all the fuss about, No big deal, 77 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: we can do it anytime. 78 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: He has a point, they can't do it. Anytime you 79 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: do it, ain't die. Come on, we'll do it next week. 80 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: We got the whole day at the venue. 81 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: The guest left him to it, and we all met 82 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: at the perception this. 83 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: Guest was imagine. 84 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, aren't you you bot to get us 85 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: me at the wedding and he's like, hill, don't, don't 86 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: rush me. 87 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: Hey, there's a lot of pressure to put on. 88 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: The guest left him to it, and we all met 89 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: at the perception the bride I decided to go ahead 90 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: as a thank you to those who'd made the effort 91 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: to travel to be there, take days off, et cetera. 92 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: That I'm sure you can imagine how it all went down, 93 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: with people randomly breaking into tears or getting angry throughout the. 94 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: Night, that's so unfortunate. Yeah, having to do that, that's. 95 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: So embarrassed, so embarrassing to be like, uh, hey, guys, 96 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: no wedding, but we're gonna have a party. 97 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: You guys like cake. 98 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: You guys like cake. We're gonna all get our credit cards. 99 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: Out, anya the cake and cry together. 100 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: Now it's the next morning and the bride and her 101 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: family travel home. My brother's outside the house complaining about 102 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: being cold and to be let in. However, when he 103 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: sees the faces of the bride, her father, and her brothers, 104 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: he swiftly turns on the waterworks and starts apologizing to 105 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: them all about how he didn't mean it. 106 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: What does that even mean? You don't mean it? 107 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: He basically got chased out up the street. His bags 108 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: were packed and thrown out onto the lawn. His designer 109 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: clothes and shoes that she had paid for over the 110 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: years were sold on Facebook marketplace that afternoon. He has 111 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: no phone as he lost it at some point. His 112 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: Maanke account is empty as he spent everything on that 113 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 1: one drinking session, and he has nowhere to go. None 114 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: of us would take him in, and my mother is 115 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: going to stay with her for a few weeks to 116 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: take care of everything. Stay with oh the bride, Yeah, 117 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: I think so, Okay, So the groom's mom is going 118 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: to spend time with you, Yes, with her, because she's like, 119 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: sorry about my son. He's the worst. Wow, that's the story, 120 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: and now we're living with the aftermath. The news is 121 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: all over Facebook and everyone is feeling heartbroken and humiliated. 122 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: My mother has always been a wonderful, kind hearted lady, 123 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: but has never been able to have a happy life 124 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: since she left my abusive father and his I don't know, 125 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what that's. Yeah, she's been dealing with 126 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: my brother's issues ever since. I think she thought she'd 127 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: finally got him over the finish line with this wedding, 128 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: and now that hope has turned to dust. 129 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: Put in a frame of it seems like he has 130 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: like so crappy for the wife. Yeah, like such a 131 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: terrible situation for a family, absolutely awful. And also like 132 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: it seems like he needs help and support. Yeah, and 133 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: he's like struggling, which doesn't. 134 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: Necessarily mean Yeah, it doesn't necessarily mean that he has 135 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: to get that from the fiance or ex fiance now 136 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: for sure, but yeah, hopefully he can get that because 137 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: it does seem like it's an ongoing problem. Yeah, needs 138 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: hop My thoughts are with her and his lovely would 139 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: be wife, But I have a deep level of anxiety 140 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: and dread over what happens now with my brother. He 141 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: doesn't deserve to be allowed back into her life, and 142 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: obviously her family utterly despises him at this point, along 143 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: with most of my family, his friends, and best man. 144 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: I hear a neighbor has put him up in a 145 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: hotel outside of town for a few days, always a 146 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: bleeding heart for him to turn to to clear his head. However, 147 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: with no family phone home, it's in her name, car, 148 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: it's in her name or money. I just can't see 149 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: where he goes from here, but I know where you 150 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: can go from here. Joining us live every week to 151 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: have three PMPSD just to have a profile. I got it, actually, 152 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: and there is a little bit more SEP story. 153 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: OP. He is very resentful, I think so other and 154 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: like holds no empathy for him. 155 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: Well, I think this is behavior that OPI has. 156 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: Seen for I could understand that, which is. 157 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's like hard like for us. We 158 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: can see, you know, there's definitely he's got his own things. 159 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: The brother has his own things going on, and it's trying, 160 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: probably battling addiction and stuff. But I think when you're 161 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: close to that and you've been on the receiving end 162 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: of bad behavior, I think it's hard to. 163 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that it makes so much sense to 164 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: like build resentment. Yeah, and also like it doesn't seem 165 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: like he's done anything vidictive or malicious. He's one hundred 166 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: percent hurt people very much, but at the same time 167 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: it seems just like just major struggling. Yeah. 168 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: But I also think that with addiction you can only 169 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: give so much advice and like say, hey, I think 170 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: you should go, you know, go to rehab or stuff, 171 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: but they have to make that step too, which it 172 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he's at that point unfortunately. Yeah, And 173 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: garden pieces, Happy belated Halloween and Dwally. 174 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: Well, actually, I don't know. We don't know how the 175 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: conversations if there's just solely been blame, like you do 176 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: this and this and this, or coming from a point 177 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: of like you're obviously struggling. What do you need support? Like, 178 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: what do you need? What's going on? Yeah, you could 179 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: talk to us and be transparent. We don't Again, I 180 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: don't know if those conversations have happened. Maybe that happened 181 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: a long time ago and there's over them. I don't know, Petty. 182 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: Patty says, at a certain point, you have to walk 183 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: away from these types of family members. You can't help 184 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: someone who clearly doesn't want it yet. It's part of 185 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: why I'm no contact with my mother, which I do. 186 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: I think agree with that. I think putting yourself in 187 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: like harm's way in terms of emotionally when people are 188 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: constantly disappointing you and you're trying to help them, which 189 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: we don't know. Again, we don't know what their relationship 190 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: here is. But yeah, yeah, I think he has to 191 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: make part of that step too. 192 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, I have a friend whose mom has addiction issues, 193 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: and hearing my friend's perspective. Growing up with that is 194 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: like so heartbreaking, and so I could understand, like to 195 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: be on the receiving end of being in some form 196 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: of relationship with someone who abuses substances, how traumatizing it 197 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: is for them. And then obviously the person who does 198 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: have the substance addiction issues is probably traumatizing their own 199 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: right and is seeking solace from the substance. 200 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely, at almost forty, the days of him using his 201 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: boyish good looks and charmed to worm his way back 202 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: in or elsewhere are pretty much done, and the big 203 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: fears him that he goes down the same path hiss 204 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: Dad did. The bride my mother's sister and now possibly 205 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: her mother in his place, along with the kids, are 206 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: about to fly out on the honeymoon for ten days, 207 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: which I couldn't be happier about. At least they're using 208 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: that honeymoon. 209 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you deserve it. 210 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: That will really help him. My brother, however, is now 211 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: on his own, penniless, alone with his thoughts until he 212 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: has to check out on Monday morning. I have an 213 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: overwhelming sense of anxiety and despair. Cliffs brother is a 214 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: wiener And that is the end of that story. 215 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: What was that last line. Brother is a wiener who 216 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: said that. 217 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: I think op Opie was like Cliff's note. 218 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: Oh short version. Our friends tried to ruin our wedding, 219 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: but they just ended up ruining their own. I thirty 220 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: eight male, have been married to Mike, thirty five year 221 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 2: old male for three years, together for twelve years. Wow, 222 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: long relationship. We are very quiet, nerdy, nature loving guys, 223 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 2: not into flashy displays or drama at all. It was 224 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: a tail end of the pandemic and since the borders 225 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: were partially open, excuse me, we decided to road trip 226 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: to GiB Gibraltar. Gibraltar, so they decided a road trip 227 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 2: to Gibraltar and a lopem. I love a good eloping. 228 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 2: The pandemic was a great excuse not to invite anyone 229 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: to our wedding and just do what we wanted. And 230 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: by the way, this comes from you dash Uka forty 231 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: on the r okay storytime subreddit. So when we told 232 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: our lesbian friends d forty five year old female and 233 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: Ann sixty year old female a fun age age gap 234 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: slig slight big slite, what we were doing, they decided 235 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: on the spot that we were going to have a 236 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: double wedding and immediately started taking over, suggesting a bunch 237 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: of trashy, expensive things we didn't want. We initially decided 238 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: that we'd get a rental car together and split it 239 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: four ways, with Mike and D splitting the driving. A 240 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 2: month before the wedding, D and A decided to be 241 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 2: cheaper to take the train. Well, six trains actually across 242 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 2: three countries. That's kind of fun, but I immediately said no. 243 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: It turned out turned out D didn't even have her 244 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: driver's license. I've been driving illegally free. D Mike offered 245 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: to do all the driving if they split the rental 246 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: car with us. They declined because it was too expensive 247 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: and took the train instead. Obviously, it went terribly for them. 248 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: Trains were canceled, tickets were lost, and they missed out 249 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: on an entire night in Gibraltar because they were stuck 250 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: at a random train station in the Spanish countryside. Mike 251 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: and I had a wonderful road trip and spent a 252 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: magical night in an airbnb in Cartagena on the way. 253 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: Just think. 254 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: Their main tickets cost more than half of the rental car. 255 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: We initially agreed to get a really fancy airbnb in 256 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: Gibraltar with a hot tub and all that stuff, split 257 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: four ways we could get something really nice. Well, and 258 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: decided she want at a real hotel and pulled out 259 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: of the air MenB plan. After his book that's pretty rude. 260 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's messed up. You can't do it. 261 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: After his books, I found a gorgeous little one bedroom 262 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: place for us with a hot tub and a view 263 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: of the c DN. Ann forgot to book a real 264 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: hotel and ended up in a freaking off well place 265 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: by the port, like a place for merchant sailors to 266 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: crash while they're in port. It was on a busy 267 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: roundabout opposite Burger King, so meant there was no bath, 268 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: no balcony, and it was basic a f It was 269 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: more expensive than our lovely place. Ooh, that sucks. 270 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: That sucks. 271 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: They got no sleep because of the drunk sailors and 272 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: traffic noise. They didn't even get any towels provided. The 273 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: night before the wedding we met for dinner. They'd barely 274 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: been in Gibraltar for two hours, whereas we've been relaxed 275 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: since the day before with a little bath. At dinner, 276 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: things were tens but d was really trying at some point, 277 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: she signaled to the restaurant host, and the lady came 278 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: over with a super fancy VIP bucket with champagne on ice. 279 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: She popped the cork and gave it to d who 280 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: had a saying, just like the one I gave you 281 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: in New York. Baby. Oh, it was clearly supposed to 282 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: be the champagne. Oh baby, remember that other cork I 283 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: gave you? 284 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know. 285 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: It was clearly supposed to be a romantic moment. And 286 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: refuse the cork. 287 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the cork. 288 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: Why she refused the cork, I don't know. The host 289 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: poured two glasses of the champagne and gave the glasses 290 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: to D n N and took a sip and immediately 291 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: spat it out, announcing loudly it's corked. What does that mean? 292 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's all like it went bad. 293 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the cork fill in like it got stuck. 294 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: Okay. We all tried the champagne and told her it 295 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: was delicious. Mike and I don't really drink, but we 296 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: know what champagne taste like, and insisted the champagne was corked. 297 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: Andy announced they weren't paying for it. It's corked. 298 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: I don't I don't drink alcohol, so I need to 299 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: look this up. The term corked means that the wine 300 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: has been tainted by a chemical compound called two four 301 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: six trichloransol I do not want that is developed in 302 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: the cork and transferred into the wine. This can only 303 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: happen with wine that a seals with the natural quirk, 304 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: not a synthetic one. 305 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: The more you know, the more you know. She threatened 306 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: to call the police, like the manager of the host 307 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: in so D sheepestly paid for it. Yeah, So she 308 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 2: was like, it's COURTD. I don't want to pay for it. 309 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: The host was like, you better, we're gonna call the 310 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: police on you. So D paid for it and soaked 311 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: the rest of the night. I was so embarrassed, and 312 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: her whole evening was spoiled. Wow, nothing's going well by 313 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: this eloping. 314 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: How are you gonna not pay for seven hundred and 315 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: fifty dollars? Why did you even pay for seven hundred 316 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: fifty dollars? 317 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and soaked the rest of the night. I was 318 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: so embarrassed, and our whole evening was spoiled. When we 319 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: got back to our Airbnb to take a bubble bath 320 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: and eat java cakes. 321 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: I've never had a java cake. 322 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if I've had it. I told the 323 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: Mike there was no way I was going to allow 324 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: them to ruin another minute of our trip. But if 325 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: they wanted to ruin theirs, that wasn't my problem. 326 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: Damn. 327 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: The actual weddings went off okay, apart from the fact 328 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: that they were still drunk from the night before. 329 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: M why they were drunking their wedding? 330 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: But oh, are you get so drunk? Because they were 331 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: just like, f this I need to get Yeah, they 332 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: were like, this. 333 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Is seven hundred fifty dollars fifty pounds wines champagne. We 334 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: got to drink it. 335 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: We're paid. Yeah, honestly, you better drink that. So the 336 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: registry office was nice, and I married the man of 337 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: my dream major Sligh. Afterwards we brought we bought them 338 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: brunch to soak up the booth and faithfully walk them 339 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: around the park taking lovely photos of them. Do you 340 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: had her finger over the lens of every picture she 341 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: took of us? 342 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: No, she was, Oh, she was going like this, yeah, 343 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: pulling a little pulling a little figure on the like 344 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: on their wedding. Come on, but also, why were you 345 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: only taking pictures only? I don't know if that's true. 346 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: I was about to say it was they were just 347 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: with friends. 348 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just the four of them. 349 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 350 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: So when we were done, they suggested we all go 351 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: to the and why didn't you look at the Yeah? 352 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: I was pretty important. 353 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: Can you get some more grubby little thumbs all. 354 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: Thumber out of there? So when we were done, they 355 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: suggested we all go to the pub and get wasted. Wasted, 356 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: white girl wasted. As if they said. 357 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: What the heck? Okay, now I feel like you're not 358 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: that fun? 359 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: Are you fun or not? We dropped them off at 360 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: the pub and win our separate ways. Well, they're just 361 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: like Opie and their husband. They just got yeah, just 362 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: like like these guys be like this, this beer is corked. 363 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: It's corked, coolidge. But I was honest and just told 364 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: them I want to be alone with my husband. Quite 365 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: reasonable them. They couldn't really argue with that. The wedding dinner, Mike, 366 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: d and I all had fairly casual preferences for a 367 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: restaurant for the wedding dinner, but An insisted on a 368 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: fine dining fish restaurant that didn't even serve dessert. How 369 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: are you gonna get your java cakes? 370 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: Are you gonna get your freaking java cakes? 371 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: Outright refused, I don't eat fish at all. Quite reasonable 372 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: to not want to go there on your wedding if 373 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: you don't like fish. Yeah, and and was insisting on 374 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: the fish restaurant, so we decided not to meet up. 375 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: Fair and also sure convinced. Tried to convince us to 376 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: chip in two hundred pounds for a custom wedding cake 377 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: to get delivered to the restaurant, but we said hell no, Yeah, 378 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 2: if you're getting eloped like, who are you trying to impress? 379 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the point of an elopement is for it 380 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: to be cheap. 381 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. But also like if you want to have a 382 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: you know, expensive elopement, you want to put money into it, 383 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: go for it. But like op and their husband don't 384 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 2: want to do this. Spend a lot of money on 385 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: things that don't seem to matter at all. 386 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, we want to spend money on a 387 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: nice airbnb and not on like champagne. Yeah. 388 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they asked us, you know, to spend money on 389 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: that custom wedding cake and we were like, hell no, 390 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 2: Mike and I went to the best steakhouse in Gibraltar. 391 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: I had at one point to Kilo steak that sounds 392 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: so good, an amazing cheesecake for dessert. They got the dessert. 393 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: We had a lovely time and the wait staff went 394 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: out if the other way to spoil us. Around eight 395 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: p the message just where are you? And we ignored 396 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: the messaged message as it turned out, and forgot to 397 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: make reservations and the fish restaurant was fully booked, but 398 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: they couldn't leave and go somewhere else because they had 399 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: to wait for the cake to be delivered. Oh just 400 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: everything is going, Oh my god, what are they doing? 401 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: It was booked, so they said it was. The place 402 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: was fully booked, Yeah, but they couldn't make reservations. 403 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: No, so yeah, they were going to go to this 404 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: fish restaurant. It was fully booked, but they couldn't go 405 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: to somewhere else because the two hundred pound cake was 406 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 2: getting delivered. 407 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: You didn't check to see if it was booked before 408 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: you delivered a cake. 409 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 2: There, what on your wedding. It's like, there's not really 410 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: a lot of room for things to go wrong. They 411 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: ended up taking the cake back to their crappy hotel, 412 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: eating it with their credit cards because they didn't even 413 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: have cutlery and plates in the room. 414 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: You okay, I'm sorry. You chose not your hands, which 415 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: presumably are clean and you can clean. 416 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: You chose to eat it with credit cards. Oh they're 417 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: so dirt, so dark. So I don't like these people. 418 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: You guys suck the AIRBB was one thing. 419 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: But your credit card credit cards. You're disgusting, dude. 420 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: And it's like also almost a wedding thing to like 421 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: get the cake with your fingers, like put it on 422 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 2: your partners. It could have been it could have been Central, 423 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: it could have been Usual, and then you put your 424 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 2: dirty little credit card, dirty little credit cards. Just use 425 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 2: her hands. Watch those geez guys. This is a sad visual. 426 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: This is Yeah. They got hammer that night on supermarket vodka. 427 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: Mike and I had the perfect email. God, I loved it. 428 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: He's just like my time is great. 429 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like us fantastic. I took another bubble wrath 430 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: hands quite romantic. Central. We watched a movie. It was 431 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: beautiful everywhere. I was with the love of my life 432 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: and they were yelling over champagne. They're like galloming for 433 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: a cake with credit I can see like a movie 434 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 2: of this, and it's like romantic music of like them, 435 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 2: and then just cut some of them, like yelling like 436 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: trying to eat with a credit card, and like yelling 437 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: about the court champagne. I'm like, the restaurant's closed. I 438 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: want my fish. 439 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: But what a story they'll have to tell. 440 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna be happy with this. Mike 441 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: and I had the perfect evening. We got a taxi home, 442 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: smoked Devil's let us, smoked smoke Ganja on our balcony, 443 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: watched the stars and kissed for hours. If you want 444 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 2: to watch the stars and kiss us for hours, you 445 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: can go on live on YouTube every weekday at three 446 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: pm PST. Just tap our profile. Okay, my question is, 447 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: what's the intense of the stories? Are they just like 448 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: talking crap and then like literally just brag, keep bragging 449 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: about her own or their own eloping because it feels like. 450 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: It didn't really hurt you that much. 451 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: I don't think any of this it's hurting. 452 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: I think nothing just really affected you that much. 453 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: I don't even think they're mad. I think they're just 454 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: like idiots. 455 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: I don't have any other thoughts on this, just I 456 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: guess like, good for you. 457 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: We're done discussed. The next day, Mike and I set 458 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: out for a day of hiking in the UNSCO World 459 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: Heritage Site National Park. It was the best day ever. 460 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: Mike got robbed and bitten by a monkey, which was 461 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 2: effing hilarious. We ate a full English breakfast in the 462 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: Sky restaurant and explored Saint Michael's Cave. Unforgettable memories were made, 463 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: d and fought, decided it was Gibraltar's fault and spontaneously 464 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 2: excuse me, decided to leave. They booked a beach resort 465 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: up the coast somewhere in Spain, and headed on foot 466 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: to the train station. They were like, this place suck, like. 467 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: Something about gibraltars cursed. 468 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 2: We need to get out of here. There's monkeys and 469 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 2: bad champagne. We're leaving. 470 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: They stole my they stole my husband's. 471 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 2: No forts here either, only credit cards, credit cards. The 472 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: trains were all messed up. They got stranded somewhere in 473 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: Spain with all their luggage. 474 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: This is so sad, what a just crap series of 475 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: unfortunate events. Honest call Lemony snicket because these people are 476 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: going through something. 477 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: They really are, So it took them fourteen hours to 478 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: get to the resorts. They arrived at eleven pm and 479 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: were checked out the next morning. Mike and I spent 480 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: a few more nights enjoying our honeymoon and the road 481 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: trip home. We stayed in the same little place in 482 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 2: Cartonhena on the way back, and the host threw us 483 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: a little surprise party. It was magical. Dan Ann got 484 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: stranded again on the way home, lost half of their 485 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: luggage and caught COVID. 486 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, God, this isn't even honestly, at this point, 487 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: this isn't even dan Anne's fault. 488 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: This is like, yeah, this is the universe. This is universe. 489 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: It's like, I hate you guys, honestly. 490 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: I honestly feel like maybe they're there. Champagne was corked. 491 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: I feel like maybe it was, But it's gotten so 492 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: bad that potentially the stampagne was cork it might have 493 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 2: been corked. That's the end of the story. 494 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: The point of that, well, someone said the point of 495 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: it was a geography lesson. 496 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: I want to go no content with my child's dad, 497 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 3: cause he's in prison. 498 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 4: Won't be that hard to not be in contact. 499 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: I twenty six female. 500 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 3: I have a six month old sun with my ex 501 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: thirty one male of one month. I know what you 502 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 3: may be thinking, and yes, you read it right. Before 503 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: my son, I was a hopeless romantic and I accepted 504 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: love in all the wrong places. When I broke up 505 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 3: with my ex and soon after found out I was pregnant, 506 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: I learned my lesson about having relationships and being too 507 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: trusting of people I barely know. I have been single 508 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: and focusing on taking care of my son ever since. 509 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: A little background on the history of my ex and I, 510 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: and by the way, this comes from user routine librarian 511 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 3: eight eighty three on the Okay Storytimes subreddit. He met 512 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: on social media last year and he texted me first 513 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 3: with a line that I've never heard from anyone. It 514 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 3: made me laugh, so I thought I'd give him a chance. 515 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 3: He said all the right things to me and lied 516 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: about so much. For example, he lied about having a 517 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: twin sister and she's the same age as me, and 518 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: I fell for it. 519 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: What a weird lie. 520 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 4: Maybe people find lying attractive. 521 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: That was just a weird, compulsive lie. 522 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: We ended up meeting in person and he told me 523 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: that he loved me after a week or so being together. Oh, 524 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: a major red flag that I ignored. And that was 525 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: the very night I conceived my son. 526 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 4: Let's go I love you. 527 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 2: That's a love baby, I love you to go to 528 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: that's how I love you. Baby. 529 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: Shortly afterwards, I found out he was cheating on me 530 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 3: and he stole money from me. Then about a month later, 531 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: I found that I was pregnant and when I told him, 532 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: he was excited. 533 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 2: At first. 534 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: We kept a line of communication, but he made most 535 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 3: of my pregnancy stressful. He denied my child and told 536 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: people that I was pregnant. 537 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 2: When we met. We only had spicy sleep once. 538 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 3: We didn't, but if we did, the dummy doesn't realize 539 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 3: that it only takes one time to get pregnant and 540 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 3: that we were never in a relationship. In the same breath, 541 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: he was trying to cheat on his several girlfriends with me, 542 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: but I wasn't having it. I would also notify him 543 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 3: of appointments to check on the baby and he would 544 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: say he'll come and ended up being a no show. 545 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: I tried to keep him updated on the baby and 546 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: he would say that I didn't. 547 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 3: He had me involved in so much drama, and I 548 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: eventually found out he had two other women pregnant at 549 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 3: this same time as me. This guy's an overachieved suver 550 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: whoa very very strong swimmer, sharp shooter. He denies getting 551 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 3: one of those two pregnant, but I know he's lying. 552 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 3: It was just all too much. Eventually we went no contact, 553 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: and shortly after he went to jail. He stayed for 554 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: the better half of the pregnancy and for about the 555 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 3: first month of him being incarcerated. We got back in 556 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 3: contact with each other again, and he tried to make 557 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 3: me do favors for him that I wasn't comfortable doing 558 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: because it would start drama or I just wasn't obligated 559 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: to do any of these things. 560 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: And this became a. 561 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: Huge problem for him since I was not doing what 562 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 3: he wanted. It turned into an argument and he told 563 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 3: me not to contact him again. So I told him 564 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 3: he wouldn't hear from me again and blocked him. Imagine 565 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 3: having the kahonas to be in prison and being like, 566 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 3: don't contact. 567 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: Me, you were done. Wow. 568 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: For months, he had strangers texting me on his behalf 569 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: asking me to contact him because he felt remorseful. I 570 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: blocked those numbers as well, because I didn't want to 571 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 3: stress anymore during the rest of my pregnancy than I 572 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: already have. Long story short, We were in contact on 573 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 3: and off, and he eventually was released from jail. He 574 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: didn't attend the birth of the baby because I didn't 575 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 3: want him there, Thank God. 576 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 4: Wow. 577 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 3: I wanted to have a peaceful labor and delivery, which 578 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 3: you deserve. After my son's birth, he was asking to 579 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 3: see him, but I didn't want him anywhere near us. 580 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: My mom made me change my mind by telling me 581 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: that I should let him see the baby because I 582 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 3: don't want to give him the chance to say that. 583 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 3: I never let my son see him if he were 584 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: to ask in the future why he couldn't come around him. 585 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: To this day, he has not physically seen my son 586 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 3: since he was born and has only helped once with him. Financially, 587 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 3: he's only seen him via FaceTime, and after a month 588 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: of my son being born, he went back to jail 589 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 3: for violating his probation. 590 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: Ever since, we have been on and off with communication. 591 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: He always tries to get back into relationship with me, 592 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 3: even when I have told him no several times, and 593 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 3: he knows why, but expects me to get over him 594 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 3: treating me like crap when I was pregnant. This guy 595 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 3: sounds like a great a scumbag. Don't get back together 596 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: with him. Probably keep your child away from him as well. 597 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: He flirts with me and calls me bay, even after 598 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: I would tell him to stop. We still fight from 599 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: time to time, and he always goes out of his 600 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 3: way to disrespect me. So now I don't answer when 601 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 3: he calls unless the baby is awake, and he says 602 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 3: things to me like when I call, you need to 603 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: and don't let anyone keep you away from me. These 604 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: are huge red like flags. Yeah, don't let him know 605 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 3: where you are, change a number, move, get out of 606 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: the area you're in. Yeah, you don't want this guy 607 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 3: mess around. He sounds like he's kind of going to 608 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 3: go off the deep end here. I don't want to 609 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: talk to him unless it's about our son. I've made 610 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 3: this clear to him several times, and he blatantly dismisses 611 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 3: it and gets angry because he can't get any control 612 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 3: over me. He doesn't respect me or my wishes, and 613 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with it any longer. But 614 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 3: I don't want to deny my son of his father. 615 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: I feel like he thinks he has some kind of 616 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: sense of ownership over me because I have his child 617 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: and it doesn't sit well with me at all. Would 618 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 3: I be the a hole if I stopped contacting him 619 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: because he makes me feel uncomfortable. You'll never make us 620 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 3: feel uncomfortable when you join us live on YouTube every 621 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: weekday at three PMPST, just tap on our profile. 622 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: I understand your consideration for your kid, not wanting him 623 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 4: to be angry at you that you never saw that 624 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 4: they never got to sell their father. I think it's 625 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 4: safe that if they make you feel uncomfortable, you don't 626 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 4: owe them the right. Just stay in contact and you 627 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 4: can explain that to your kid when they get older. 628 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 4: They may hate you for a little bit, but I 629 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 4: think it's you have to protect you and your own first. 630 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: The vibes I'm getting from this guy are definitely not 631 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: someone who would be safe to have around. Yeah, like 632 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 3: I think, literally for your safe, for the safety of 633 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 3: you and your son, it's probably best that he does 634 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 3: not ever find himself in a position where he could 635 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 3: have power or control over either of you. Thank all 636 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 3: of you that have been giving very helpful advice. I 637 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: really appreciate it. Also, any negative comments will be deleted 638 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: and you will be blocked. I know what I did 639 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: was not the best thing, but as I stated in 640 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: the beginning of this post, I learned my lesson. I 641 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 3: have an example this set for my son, and I 642 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 3: will never believe anything or trust anything another man tells 643 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: me unless I see some action behind it and he 644 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: matches it. 645 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: I'm not dating and don't intend to. 646 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: My main focus is on my healing and making sure 647 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 3: my baby is taken care of. Yeah, you don't need 648 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: to focus on dating. You just need to focus on 649 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: the healing and focus on raising your kid. 650 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 4: It'll be a minute, but be patient with yourself. 651 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, because if we don't heal, we can't really be 652 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: there for others if we don't be there for ourselves. 653 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: First, canceled my wedding after my ex cheated, but now 654 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: my sister's trying to steal my wedding. I was meant 655 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: to get married on the first of February, which was 656 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: my and my ex fiancees anniversary. We ended the engagement 657 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: shortly after the New year because he cheated on me. 658 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: That's so very sad, but at least it happened before 659 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: you got married. 660 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: That's that's true. 661 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: Thank god. The wedding was initially planned with just my 662 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: money but was very low key, and my parents asked 663 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: if they could put up some additional money to make 664 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: the whole thing a bit bigger. And by the way, 665 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: this comes from you dash deleted on the rs okay 666 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: storytime subreddit. So by the end, about sixty percent of 667 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: the wedding was paid for by me and forty percent 668 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: my parents contribution. My ex and I had agreed that 669 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: I would pay for the wedding while he covered the honeymoon. 670 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: Damn, you didn't even get to the honeymoon. 671 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. My ex left me to deal with canceling the 672 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: wedding as his money wasn't involved. 673 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: That's so messed up. 674 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: So he cheated on you. Yeah, and it was like, 675 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 2: deal with the wedding. Yeah, wow. And I turned to 676 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: my mother and sister for help because I didn't have 677 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: the mental or emotional capacity to call vendors and venues 678 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: and whatever else and cancel everything. My sister is engaged 679 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: and helped me with a lot of the wedding planning. 680 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: Next thing I know, my mother and sister are asking 681 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: me if I wouldn't mind my sister just taking my wedding. 682 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I understand, like optics here are not good. I 683 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: kind of get it. 684 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: It seems quite easy. It seems to cancel everything and 685 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: lose it all on that money. 686 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, as long as they're like, hey, we'll pay for it. Yeah, 687 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: that I would think we're gonna take it, and you 688 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: still have to be crazy. 689 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 690 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: But if it's just like hey, like I want to 691 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: pay for it, is it okay? If I take it, 692 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to go to waste that way that you 693 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: don't you don't have to go through canceling. 694 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: Did sister shoot with fiance? That was another story. If 695 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: you're if you're referencing that other story, yeah, oh that 696 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: was a wild one. 697 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: That was a wild one. 698 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: Every part of it, from the venue to the cake 699 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: and everything in between. The sole difference would be the 700 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: wedding dress. And even then she said, if she can't 701 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: buy off the rack, she might have to get mine 702 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: Taylor to fit her instead. I called off my engagement 703 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: less than three weeks ago. I am an e fing mess. 704 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: I reached out to my family to help me cancel 705 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: the wedding, and my sister is planning to take it 706 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: over and said okay, she asked you. Yeah, OPI seems 707 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: quite mad, but it seems like her sisters, her family's 708 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 2: trying to be like creative and find a way to 709 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: manage the situation. 710 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: I honestly, I totally understand she's going through a lot 711 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: of emotions right now. 712 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: Yes, but we will, we will recognize that. Yeah, my 713 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: sister has wrung round our family explaining that she's taking 714 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: over before she told me this. Okay, well that's. 715 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: That's a little bit. 716 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you can't just be like assume that, you know, Op, 717 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: he's gonna be chill with this, and then just start 718 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: telling the family so they are all attending. Her fiance 719 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: has contacted his family and given them the date he 720 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: will be getting married. Okay, I understand why mad so 721 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: before checking like, hey, this is a Crown show, can 722 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: we help out? I think creatively if we do that, 723 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: like this would really help out. But they're just like 724 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: assuming and they're like telling everyone and like making plans 725 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 2: around it. 726 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: That's not cool. 727 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: I found out all of this today. She asked me 728 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: if I was okay with this, Like she hasn't already 729 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: arranged everything. I told her to go f herself. I 730 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: have until the twenty third to cancel things and get 731 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: the money back. Oh, you get money all back? 732 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: Do you get all of the money back or you 733 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: get you probably lose the deposit. 734 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of things where I won't get 735 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: money back at the stage, but over two thirds of 736 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: it is still refundable. But is the sister going. 737 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: To give you That's what I want to know. If 738 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: this is and he's paying you everything, then that's different. 739 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, the money will be refunded to the card 740 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: it was paid by, so both me and my parents 741 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: will get the correct amounts back. Everything is shut right now, 742 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: but it's the twenty first tomorrow. As I've not been 743 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: in contact with these companies and it's my name on 744 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: all the contracts, I have full power over this wedding. 745 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: My sister said she'd pay me back eventually, but knowing her, 746 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: I'll never see that money again. Okay, so that's I think. 747 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: Well, I think what you can say is you can 748 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: have the wedding if you pay me. 749 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: Upfront or if you pay me by this date. 750 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah yeah, but oh he needs to cancel, so 751 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: it's like she might not get this money. 752 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: No, Like, are you gonna like, are you gonna agree 753 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: with me if we do this. Yeah, if you take 754 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: over the wedding, you will pay me by this date. 755 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess it's like, what if she doesn't 756 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: pay you by that date? Yeah, you can't cancel anything 757 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: for sure, So it's like I think that I think 758 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: you just have to say, like, okay, you have to 759 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: pay me by this or I'm just going to cancel 760 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: it because I can't be sure that you'll pay me. 761 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah again, so eventually, but knowing her, I'll never see 762 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: that money again. So would I be the a hole 763 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: if I wrung round everything and canceled update. 764 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: I think just have a conversation with her and say, hey, 765 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: that was like really inappropriate that you told everyone that 766 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: you were taking my wedding before. 767 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: You without consulting with me, like it possibly could have happened. 768 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I might have considered it, but you just assume 769 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: so much. And if you really want this wedding, I'll 770 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: consider it, but you need to pay me upfront for sure. 771 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: One hundred percent of conversation, Pixie. 772 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: Loved Us says, I'm so petty I would cancel without 773 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: communicating because she took over the date without. 774 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: Communicating Josephine, I'm just trying to you know. Update time, 775 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: I talked to my sister who would have thought and 776 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: explained how upset I was and how hurt this made 777 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: me feel, and she said that this was a good 778 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: thing and it would be therapeutic for me to see 779 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: good come from bad. I said, that is really not 780 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: what it's feeling like on my end, And to me, 781 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: it feels like I got cheated on a month before 782 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: my wedding, and my sister said she would cancel everything 783 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 2: for me and then decided that getting married in my 784 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: dress in the venue my ex and I picked out 785 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 2: together on my anniversary date. And this did not feel good. Yeah, 786 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 2: from her perspective, also totally could see like this was 787 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 2: the wedding. Oh my god, you're gonna have your wedding. 788 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: You're gonna marry this person, be with them for the 789 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: rest of your life. You get cheated on right before 790 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 2: the wedding, and then you have to watch your sister 791 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: have the wedding that would have been yours and get 792 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: reminded by to the detail of all the things you 793 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: could have had wedding dress too, and to the wedding dress. Yeah, yeah, 794 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: pretty messed up, I said, So this could have all 795 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: been avoided if the sister was like, just what about 796 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: this option and she's like, actually no, that would make 797 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: me feel like crap, and then it could have all 798 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 2: been avoided. I said. If she wanted to buy the 799 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: wedding off me, then I needed payment in full, okay, 800 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: like you said, for my sixty percent by the twenty third, 801 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 2: and I wanted to switch out our names on the contract. 802 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 1: Fair, very fair, very fair. 803 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 2: She said she was hoping for closer to a payment 804 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 2: plan where she paid me back fifty percent of the 805 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: sixty percent I put down in monthly installments over the 806 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 2: next ten months. 807 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: Well what about that last ten percent? Does no one 808 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: pay you back the last ten percent? 809 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 810 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: She's like, I'm going to pay you back fifty percent 811 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: of the sixty percent over ten months. Huh. So she's 812 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: just not going to pay back the ten percent the 813 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: last ten percent? 814 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: Oh okay, So she's yeah, yeah, it's. 815 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: Just an extra ten percent that she's not going to 816 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: pay back. 817 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. She wanted to pay me back 818 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 2: five percent per month for ten percent, and I still 819 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: want to get all of my money back. Yeah what Yeah, 820 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: I've made calls and canceled everything. Everything was paid for 821 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: by me and my parents' money, paid primarily for upgrades 822 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: to the things I'd already bought. The money will be 823 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: refunded who ever paid for it, so myself and my 824 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 2: parents will all get the correct money back. However, with some, 825 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 2: like the caterer, we've lost a deposit entirely. With some, 826 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: like the venue, they kept part of the money average 827 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 2: fifty percent, but some kept more and some kept less. 828 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 2: And with some like the baker who was a family 829 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: friend and had it started on the cake. Yet thank god, 830 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: they completely refunded it. We found out from the last 831 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: story how expensive cakes are. 832 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: Pretty expensive when you're in Gibraltar. 833 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 2: When you're in Gibraltar. I think the fact that I 834 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 2: was open that the wedding was off because he cheated 835 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 2: and made them feel bad for me and probably made 836 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 2: a few of them more lenient on refunds. Yeah, yeah, 837 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: like I got cheated on. I'm like, oh okay, yeah, 838 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 2: it's not like just randomly trying to change the day. 839 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, like you got left over. Yeah, 840 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 2: didn't just bring it up for the sake of it. 841 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: But most of them asked if he if I'd wanted 842 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: to reschedule on the whole, I've gotten a little over 843 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: half back, which is not as much as I thought. Really, Yeah, 844 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: that sucks. You could have got more if your sister. 845 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're willing to do the ten months plan. 846 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing is that I put these cancelations through 847 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: on the twenty first, and if i'd done it on 848 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: the eighteenth, two full week's notice, i'd had gotten more. 849 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 2: But they waited until the twentieth to tell me the 850 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 2: dates are now oh yeah, because she thought she was. 851 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: Supposed to be her sister was supposed to be canceling everything. 852 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, So she thought her family was going to cancel it. Yeah. 853 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: And then they tell her, no, we didn't do that. 854 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna take it from you. 855 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: And she's like, so the dates are not open, the 856 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 2: plans are now there. If she wants to rebook everything 857 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 2: in her name, she was welcome to. She helped me 858 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: with an f ton of planning, knows the details better 859 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: than I do, and she could easily rebook the exact thing, 860 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: same thing, or will probably be doing. The vendors a 861 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 2: favor of considering how close we are to the big day, 862 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 2: and if you want to have a big day every day. 863 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 2: You can join us live on YouTube every weekday at 864 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: three pm PST. 865 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: Just have our profiles happen. 866 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: Also, there's another relevant update. But let's discuss. But we 867 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 2: it feels like we disciscussed, we discussed, We've we decided, discussions, 868 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 2: discussions over. Yeah, So some refunds will be instant, some 869 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 2: will take a bit of time. Longest is two weeks 870 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: and I'm no longer going on my honeymoon, so once 871 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 2: all the refunds have come through, I might book a 872 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 2: week away somewhere. 873 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 874 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 2: It seems like in other stories when like I just 875 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 2: never seen someone do that. What blow your hair out? 876 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: I do it all the time. 877 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 2: Nice. It seems like in other stories where people like 878 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 2: like the wedding crashes or something, Yeah, that they just 879 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 2: go on their honeymoon. 880 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: I think you got it. It's like you're you got 881 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: the trip plant. Well, in this case, she doesn't have 882 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: a trip plan, but most times they have trip plans, 883 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: and you're like, I don't want it to go to waste. 884 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just kind of like so tainted. That's a curse. 885 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: Oh, this is fun. 886 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: I could have gone on this with my husband, but 887 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 2: I guess I'll go on it with my family. Were 888 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 2: going to cry in a hotel room in Spain now, 889 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 2: I guess, though I'm not sure what's happening with my sister, 890 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 2: mother family at large. In total, I would have gotten 891 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 2: more back from my sister than I would from the venues, 892 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 2: but it would be a year wait, I mean ten 893 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 2: months wait, yeah, on her repaying me versus a few 894 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 2: weeks on the venues. Currently drafting a Facebook post to 895 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 2: tell the family what happened without me looking like a 896 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 2: total b She's gonna post this. 897 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: Where are we why? Okay, let's like, let's think about 898 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: it and then not, Let's not do it. 899 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 2: Let's like make a different decision. 900 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: Let's not do that. 901 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 2: I have a the way people use Facebook, so like. 902 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about it and need it. I need 903 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: to let everyone know on Facebook. Yeah, oh wow, I 904 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: don't know what Chat's gonna think about this. 905 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 2: I have a feeling they've already guessed what went on, 906 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 2: but only one way to make sure. 907 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: And that is the end of that story. 908 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 2: Again, it's seals is pointless, like my X ruined our relationship, 909 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 2: but won't leave me alone. 910 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 4: Give me one more shot, one more chance. 911 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 3: Hey, let me make your life a mess one more time. Firstly, 912 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 3: I have really struggled to write this all down. Our 913 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 3: friendship groups are so heavily entwined that it's got so 914 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 3: many people involved now and I don't even know where 915 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 3: to start. So much has happened, and I'm doing a 916 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 3: lot of work on myself after all this. 917 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: By the way, this. 918 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 3: Comes from users stressed pressy Messi on the r slash 919 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 3: Okay story time subreaddit I female twenty six started talking 920 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 3: to my ex j male twenty three in February. We 921 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 3: were in the same extended friendship group and I was 922 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 3: really worried about dating within this group. I already had 923 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 3: an ex in the group see who I had dated 924 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 3: five years ago before. He had met my friends through 925 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 3: work in a small town two years after we split. 926 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 3: He had no idea they were my friends until about 927 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 3: a year before a wedding we both attended. We're now 928 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 3: on good terms after a lot of work after a 929 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 3: messy split where Chester cheated on me with his ex 930 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 3: at a fest of a We don't hang out or 931 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 3: go for coffee or anything, but we do have a 932 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 3: chat and get on well enough. If we're both out 933 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 3: on a night out from the onset, Jay pursued me 934 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 3: and messaged me. Originally I thought he was gay, but 935 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 3: it turned out he wasn't. I ended up finally agreeing 936 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 3: to a date after our mutual best friend M female 937 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 3: twenty three pushed both of us to pursue the developing feelings. 938 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 3: We had an amazing first date and we talked all evening. 939 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 3: We went on more dates and the topic of spicy 940 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 3: Sleep started coming up more. I had made it clear 941 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 3: that I don't sleep with someone until a romantic connection 942 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 3: has really been established due to past trauma that made 943 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 3: it hard to connect. After Spicy Sleep, he really understood 944 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 3: it made me feel completely. 945 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 2: Safe and relaxed with him about it. We love that. 946 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 3: Our biggest disagreement was arguing over condiments and which are 947 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 3: the best. 948 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 2: He eats his. 949 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 3: Fries dry, and that is truly abhorrent to me. As 950 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 3: stupid as it was, it made me laugh and it 951 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 3: was like dating my best friend because he was already 952 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 3: my friend beforehand. When things started to progress, we finally 953 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 3: slept together and it was great. I didn't feel sick 954 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 3: having him in my bed, and he was the first 955 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 3: man to stay in my bed after my last boyfriend 956 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: who caused all my trauma. I'd told him everything about it, 957 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 3: in more details than I had with any of my friends, 958 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 3: and he'd been so understanding and supportive about my issues 959 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 3: and the commitment problems I've since faced after the severe 960 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 3: trauma I experienced. Glad to hear you're on the path 961 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 3: of healing op for real. We started planning further in 962 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 3: advance for things in May. We had two big date 963 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 3: nights planned. One was a work event for him and 964 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,720 Speaker 3: the other was going to be an event with friends. 965 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 3: My birthday was a few weeks before these things, as 966 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 3: it is at the beginning of May, and I'd asked 967 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 3: if he wanted to come on the day out with 968 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 3: my friends. I made it clear that there was no 969 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 3: pressure for me to come, and I just thought he'd 970 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 3: enjoy the day as a lot of our mutual friends 971 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 3: were coming, as well as a couple of my friends 972 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 3: from UTI in childhood. He didn't even hesitate when he 973 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 3: said yes. Our next date involved us going out for dinner, 974 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 3: where he started making Christmas plans for me to spend 975 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 3: time with his family. I ended up having a minor 976 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 3: panic attack at planning so far in advance because We 977 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 3: were in mid April at this point, and he stopped 978 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 3: immediately once I said I wasn't to talk that far 979 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 3: in advance. We'd agreed not to sleep with other people 980 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 3: after the first time we'd slept together, as we were 981 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 3: both serious about our developing relationship, or so I thought. 982 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 3: Oh no, oh, no, here comes the cold water. My 983 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 3: birthday came and we had an amazing time, despite the 984 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 3: little things that irritated me. He was over an hour late. 985 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 3: The boys had gone to the pub whilst I went 986 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 3: to brunch with the girls, and they all ended up 987 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 3: trashed and incredibly late. After a few stern words, they 988 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 3: eventually showed up. I had a bit of a wobble 989 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 3: about being the center of attention, but Jay took me 990 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 3: off for some time where I was one on one 991 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 3: with someone and talked me down from the incoming panic. 992 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 3: We rejoined my friends at the pub and he pulled 993 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 3: me for a chat about our future. 994 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: He asked me to be. 995 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 3: His girlfriend, but I told him I wasn't quite ready 996 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 3: for a label. We then agreed to complete exclusivity, where 997 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 3: we didn't see anyone else anymore and basically committed, but 998 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 3: without the official label. 999 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 2: According to Jay, interesting. 1000 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 3: After this, he spent the night chatting to my friends 1001 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 3: and told our married friends that he was going to 1002 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 3: take care of me and that he was serious about me, 1003 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 3: something They relayed the next out of happiness and excitement. 1004 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 3: All of my friends loved him and were so happy 1005 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 3: for us. We left at nine pm and he stayed 1006 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 3: the night, something that was becoming more routine. I loved 1007 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 3: spending time with him, and my work colleagues were all 1008 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 3: enthusiastically rooting for us, as I'd been single for three 1009 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 3: and a half years with very little luck in the 1010 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,280 Speaker 3: dating feel I was completely smitten with him and started 1011 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 3: to see myself falling head over heels in love with 1012 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 3: them who During our evenings, we'd talk about the days 1013 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 3: we were having, and he expressed his frustrations about his friends. 1014 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 3: Some of his opinions were questionable, to say the least, 1015 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 3: and were offensive. I called him out for the most part, 1016 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 3: but ashamedly I didn't make it clear enough that he 1017 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 3: was being mean and shouldn't have said some of these 1018 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 3: things at all. He was going out of the country 1019 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 3: to a festival with the boys and em a couple 1020 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 3: of days after my birthday. I had no issues with this, 1021 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 3: until EM had asked me how I was so chilled 1022 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 3: with the situation. I trusted him up until EM mentioned 1023 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 3: being chill. I am not famous for my chill amongst 1024 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 3: my friends. When I asked for more details, he explained 1025 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,720 Speaker 3: that his long term bad blood x L female twenty 1026 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 3: three and his ex fling B female twenty four were 1027 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 3: both going as well. He'd completely omitted this, but I 1028 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 3: just noted it and didn't mention to him. 1029 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: I knew as I started to get suspicious. 1030 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 3: During the week he was away, we'd gone from speaking 1031 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 3: every day to no contact at all. I'd assumed that 1032 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 3: he had no data, but he was viewing all my 1033 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 3: social media posts within ten minutes of posting. 1034 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 2: I knew something was up, but I had no evidence. 1035 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,760 Speaker 3: Oh come on, dude, this guy can't keep a secret. 1036 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 3: Once they were back, I still heard nothing. EM came 1037 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 3: over for dinner and proudly announced that nothing happened when 1038 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 3: they were away. I didn't believe her. I knew something 1039 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 3: had I just had no evidence. 1040 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 2: Still. 1041 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 3: Finally, after a drink, I asked to speak to Jay. 1042 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 3: He called me and I told him I knew everything, 1043 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 3: so this was his chance to tell me the truth. 1044 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 3: This was the biggest bluff of my life. Yo op, 1045 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 3: he's pulling the police interiator tactic. He immediately told me 1046 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 3: that he'd slept with Elle while they were away. 1047 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 4: Yes, come on. 1048 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 3: He even followed it up with I thought about you 1049 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 3: the whole time. Oh gross. Within five days of my birthday, 1050 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,919 Speaker 3: he'd slept with her. He didn't even apologize for any 1051 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 3: of it, not even those bad I'm sorry I hurt 1052 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 3: your feelings apologies. After some insults hurled from my end, 1053 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 3: I ended it. I didn't cry until I was finally 1054 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 3: off the phone, and EM was devastated. M shared a 1055 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 3: hotel room with Lisette, and she had lied about the 1056 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 3: night she'd spent with Jay. We had no idea if 1057 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 3: Lisette knew about me, and she lived with one of 1058 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 3: Jay's friends, so we had assumed she'd known, as Jay 1059 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 3: had told this guy about us. EM stayed with me 1060 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 3: that night as I was a total mess. She had 1061 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 3: never seen me so upset, as I normally have kept 1062 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 3: it together when things go wrong. She had known Jay 1063 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 3: for ten years and decided to cut him out. We 1064 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 3: called married friends so we could let them know the 1065 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 3: situation and that I wanted to stay away from Jay. 1066 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 3: But I wanted them to stay friends if they wanted. 1067 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 3: I told the married friends that em and I support 1068 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 3: their respective friendships with Jay. Realistically, I didn't want to 1069 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 3: be that girl who split up the group, and I 1070 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 3: didn't want them to choose between me and him. Prizingly 1071 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 3: to me, they all cut him off. Yeah, that's a 1072 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 3: good group of friends. They said that they all found 1073 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 3: his actions awful and were appalled by it all, especially 1074 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 3: after the way he'd acted less than five days before 1075 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,919 Speaker 3: with me and all my friends. Emma and I spoke 1076 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 3: about it NonStop so I could piece my feelings together 1077 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,439 Speaker 3: and work out where I stood. He'd made it clear 1078 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 3: that this was premeditated cheating during our breakup chat, and 1079 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 3: I couldn't fathom what I had done to deserve it. 1080 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 3: To be honest, you didn't do anything to deserve it. 1081 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 3: I can tell you that right now. I'm not perfect, 1082 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 3: and I never pretend to be, but I don't think. 1083 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 2: I deserve this. Jay idolizes Chester. 1084 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 3: In the weeks that followed, I was egged on to 1085 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 3: confront lysett for her part in all this. I reached 1086 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 3: out to Beth, who had heard on the grapevine about 1087 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 3: what had happened. I knew Beth through Jay and wanted 1088 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 3: to get to know her more before everything happened. We 1089 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 3: met for brunch and she just asked me what happened. 1090 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 3: I told her everything, sparing most details. She informed me 1091 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 3: that Lisette had no idea. I was so glad I 1092 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 3: hadn't confronted Lisette, but I had spoken horribly behind her back. 1093 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 3: I contacted Lysette that night to apologize for the things 1094 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 3: I'd said, and she immediately responded, apologizing for the part 1095 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 3: that she'd played in everything, and asked to meet up. 1096 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 3: I was hesitant, but we ended up going for dinner injury. 1097 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 2: Within a week. 1098 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 3: She told me everything about that night, including the fact 1099 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 3: that he wasn't as intoxicated as he'd made out. He 1100 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 3: used her grief from losing a parent to angle their closeness, 1101 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 3: and he'd even done something similar to her when they 1102 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 3: had dated the first time around. She explained about how 1103 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 3: he has since been saying that I was horrible and controlling, 1104 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 3: which is why he cheated on me. Garbage man. Throw 1105 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 3: this man into the deep space. I had one question 1106 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 3: for her. Realistically, in the month after the split, I'd 1107 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 3: unpaused my dating apps on one of them, someone had 1108 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 3: liked me using my late partner's name and photos of 1109 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 3: us from before his death. I was shaken to my core. 1110 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 3: The married friends automatically said they thought Jay was behind 1111 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 3: the fake profile. I wasn't sure, but they were almost certain. 1112 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 3: I tore him to shreds in our breakup call, but 1113 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 3: surely not enough to warrant this. 1114 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 2: I needed to know if she thought he was capable 1115 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 2: of this. 1116 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 3: Lisette informed me that something similar had happened following their breakup, 1117 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 3: but she never knew if it was him. For Lisette, 1118 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 3: this confirmed it was him who had done this to her. Yeah, 1119 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 3: I feel like, oh yeah, that's too much of a 1120 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 3: coincidence not to not line up. 1121 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 2: You both break up. 1122 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 3: With this dude, and then you both get ghost profiles 1123 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 3: of your previous lovers who are now dead. 1124 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 2: Like he's trying to traumatize you, guys. This guy sucks. 1125 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 3: I was devastated. It ended up being a rather lovely 1126 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 3: eve where I felt connected to my body and she's 1127 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 3: actually really lovely. We are quite good friends now. In fact, 1128 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,800 Speaker 3: Lisette had a go at Jay for his behavior that evening. 1129 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 3: After leaving, Beth cut off Jay as well as her 1130 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 3: and I hang out so regularly now that she didn't 1131 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 3: want the negativity he brings around anymore. I heard rumblings 1132 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 3: that Jay has since said we weren't together, so it 1133 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 3: wasn't cheating, and that I'm exaggerat it hurts, but I 1134 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 3: didn't want to keep it going. Really, those who knew 1135 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 3: what happened knew. Those who didn't want to be involved 1136 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 3: had my full support. I just wanted to heal and 1137 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 3: move on, to be honest, And if I'm being honest, 1138 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 3: you guys can join us live on YouTube every weekday 1139 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 3: at three PMPST. 1140 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 2: Just tap that profile. 1141 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 4: This guy's dirt bag and you've got a friend out 1142 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 4: of it. 1143 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you did. 1144 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 3: It sounds like you got really a lot of solid 1145 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 3: friends out of this. For the whole married friend group 1146 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 3: to cut him off. 1147 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 4: I would encourage you to maybe look for some ways 1148 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 4: to like continue to heal yourself because I know you 1149 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 4: got cheated on, you have a late partner, you got 1150 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 4: cheated on like twice. It seems like you've got a 1151 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 4: lot of stuff to work through and you're probably already 1152 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 4: working through it. Yeah, like maybe finding a therapist to 1153 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 4: help you. Therapists can go with this stuff and be 1154 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,439 Speaker 4: like because it's emotionally heavy, so that brings us to now. 1155 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 4: He was called out by Lysette's housemate. 1156 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 3: The housemate met up with Jay, who was acting as 1157 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,919 Speaker 3: if he hadn't done anything wrong. Housemate and I were acquaintances, 1158 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 3: but he is close with Lisette, Beth and M, so 1159 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 3: he knew everything at this point. The housemate was angry 1160 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 3: at him for his conduct and told him as such. 1161 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 3: He made the point that he has split everyone up 1162 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 3: and everyone is angry. So Jay got whiny and upset 1163 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 3: and sent apologies out. He sent one to M detailing 1164 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 3: how upset he was about the situation and how he's 1165 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 3: left it so many months because he was so scared, 1166 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 3: but he's done loads of growth. He sent one to 1167 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 3: Lysette about how he was so sorry for his treatment 1168 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 3: of her and he's sorry for not telling her the 1169 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 3: details about the week away. I had been reduced to 1170 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 3: the details. Lisette had two apologies. M had one, and 1171 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 3: I'm still waiting. The married friends want apologies for his 1172 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 3: behavior and the lying on my birthday because he clearly 1173 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 3: wasn't serious about me. I don't think an apology would 1174 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 3: have changed anything for me, especially one he only sent 1175 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 3: because he was told off by his housemate, but I 1176 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 3: do think it would have given me that last bit 1177 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 3: of closure. I don't really know why I shared this, 1178 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 3: but I just think I needed to get it out. 1179 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 3: It's been months of working on my self worth and 1180 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 3: just connecting with my friends. Friends and time are the 1181 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 3: best healers for everything, and on that I certainly agree. 1182 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:31,240 Speaker 4: I agreed. 1183 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 2: I'm glad that you have. 1184 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,280 Speaker 3: You have yourself a nice little friend group that's supporting 1185 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 3: you during this. I knew my husband was perfect for 1186 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 3: me because I stalked him. 1187 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 4: I think it just makes your relationship easier. 1188 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 2: You're just putting in the extra effort. Ope, I see you. 1189 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 3: I twenty four female, married my husband twenty eight mail, 1190 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 3: about a year and a half ago. The first time 1191 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 3: I saw my husband, I was a freshman in high 1192 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 3: school and he was a freshman in college. He was 1193 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 3: walking his dog at the park when he stopped to 1194 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,760 Speaker 3: talk to my brother twenty seven male, because they happened 1195 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:58,720 Speaker 3: to go to high school together. 1196 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 2: That was the moment I became hooked. Oh my god. 1197 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 3: That same day, I found his Instagram, his family social media, 1198 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 3: and also where he lived, since my brother offered to 1199 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 3: walk him home while I tagged along. When I got 1200 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 3: home that day, I knew I wanted him, but of 1201 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 3: course I was only fourteen while he was eighteen. 1202 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 2: So I came up with a plan. 1203 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from user hot relation eight 1204 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 3: ninety nine on the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. I 1205 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 3: found out his younger brother was only one year younger 1206 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 3: than me and would be attending my current high school. 1207 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 3: I figured that I had to befriend his younger brother 1208 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 3: by any means possible next year when he moves up 1209 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 3: as a freshman while I become a sophomore. 1210 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 2: And I did. 1211 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 3: It took about halfway of my junior year, where we 1212 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 3: became best friends and he invited me over regularly to 1213 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 3: his house to hang out. This is where I was 1214 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 3: able to befriend my current husband's mom, and God did 1215 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 3: she love to talk about him. 1216 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 4: Flip was switched and this is in Crazyville. We were 1217 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 4: in Crazyville. 1218 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 2: Hey, this is just a girl who knew exactly what 1219 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:53,240 Speaker 2: she wanted. 1220 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 3: Yes, at fourteen, knew exactly who her husband was going 1221 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 3: to be and was like, I have a plan. 1222 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 2: From her. 1223 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 3: I found out what college he goes to his past girlfriends? 1224 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 3: What is elementary slash middle school was his favorite slash 1225 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 3: least favorite foods, his pet peeves, what he likes, et cetera, 1226 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:12,320 Speaker 3: et cetera. 1227 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 2: This is actually starting to scare me. This is scary. 1228 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,399 Speaker 4: It's also scary like knowing what's going through your head 1229 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 4: right now and talking to the mom to get all this. 1230 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,359 Speaker 4: At least she's not snooping. She's just asking questions. I mean, 1231 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 4: she's not snooping yet. 1232 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1233 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 3: It seemed like she think day one she snooped, Bro, 1234 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 3: you're talking about day one. She has idoctored him. He 1235 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 3: was fully doffed no, and. 1236 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 4: She found out where he lived. You can do a 1237 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 4: little social media stock, but once you find where they live. 1238 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 3: Eventually, when my visits started getting more and more frequent, 1239 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 3: I formally met current husband again. 1240 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 2: Current husband, who i'll call e it's call Ethan. 1241 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 3: Ethan would come over every other week and stay for 1242 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 3: either Friday through Sunday or Saturday to Sunday. On those days, specifically, 1243 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 3: I would wear my cutest outfits to impress him and 1244 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 3: also joke around with him a lot. Eventually I befriended 1245 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 3: him as well. A little background on Ethan. He's the 1246 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 3: school record holder for a certain sport at my school, 1247 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 3: which I just so happened to do. And around halfway 1248 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 3: through my senior year, Ethan came back during the season 1249 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 3: to help coach the current high school athletes, which included me, 1250 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 3: in order to get some more volunteer work hours in, 1251 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 3: and I got to spend a lot more time with him. 1252 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 3: I loved every second of it. We were friends before, 1253 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 3: but then we became much closer since I got to 1254 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 3: spend lots of extra time with him after school, where 1255 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 3: sometimes he would even drive me home since we lived 1256 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 3: relatively close. Oh boys, I can only imagine like the 1257 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 3: little trophies and trinkets that this girl was like secretly 1258 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:33,879 Speaker 3: like taking, like. 1259 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 2: From his car. 1260 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,720 Speaker 3: Like she would just like run her finger like over 1261 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 3: the like the dashboard, and like a hair was on there, 1262 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 3: and she would just like to just eat it. 1263 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,839 Speaker 2: This is what true love looks like. Don't let anyone 1264 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 2: tell you this. 1265 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 4: Goodness, gracious, this is some of this was cute. 1266 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 2: What's not cute is that this guy became her husband. 1267 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 4: Like I think I got married. It's all planned out. 1268 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 4: That's what I don't like it. It's like all methodically 1269 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,959 Speaker 4: planned out. Then I come then I get her mom, 1270 00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 4: then I get her Yeah. 1271 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 3: It was like this of like first I'll get to 1272 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 3: the little brother, yeah, and then I'll work my way up. 1273 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 2: It's pretty scary. 1274 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how i'd feel if I was the 1275 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 3: husband reading this. Fast forward to when I had to 1276 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 3: move away to New York City for college. Ethan moved 1277 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 3: with me since he coincidentally got a job near my college. 1278 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:14,879 Speaker 1: Edit. 1279 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 2: I lied, It wasn't a coincidence. 1280 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 3: I found out he got a job offer and applied 1281 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 3: to a college nearby his workplace. 1282 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 2: This girl's going the extra extra mile. 1283 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 3: Being each other's only friends in a new state, we 1284 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 3: became incredibly close. We started dating when I was a 1285 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 3: sophomore in college. He proposed to me after I graduated, 1286 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 3: and we just got married almost a year ago. He 1287 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 3: knows absolutely nothing about how I truly know him and 1288 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,359 Speaker 3: believes it is fate that brought us together through his 1289 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 3: younger brother. Lately, I've been debating on whether or not 1290 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 3: I should tell him, or at least tell his younger 1291 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 3: brother the truth, since the only reason I befriended him 1292 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 3: was to get closer to Ethan. I feel guilty every 1293 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,280 Speaker 3: time he tells others our love story, because the truth 1294 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 3: is I've known him for ten years, while he's only 1295 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 3: known me for about seven. This also started at fourteen. 1296 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 3: Think about a fourteen year old brain. The level of 1297 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 3: an infatuation that this fourteen year old had with this guy. 1298 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 4: Oh boy. 1299 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,359 Speaker 3: I told him this fourth of July, after the fireworks 1300 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 3: mostly ended and we were heading back, I asked him 1301 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 3: in the car, wouldn't it have been weird if we 1302 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 3: had met each other before the first time we actually met, 1303 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 3: but we just didn't think of each other as significant 1304 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 3: at the time. He smiled and he said, that's impossible. 1305 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 3: There's no universe where we would have met, and I 1306 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,240 Speaker 3: would not think of you as significant. That statement struck 1307 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 3: me in my heart because I knew I would soon 1308 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,320 Speaker 3: prove that sentence very wrong. 1309 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 2: But I continued on with my plan. Anyway. Oh my god, girl, 1310 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 2: your commitment. 1311 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 3: What if I told you we have met each other 1312 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 3: before before that time I was introduced as Ethan's little 1313 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 3: brother's friend. He looked at me like I was crazy. 1314 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,800 Speaker 3: So that's when I pulled over on the side of 1315 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 3: the road and pulled out my phone to show him 1316 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 3: the post I put up here before that explained everything. 1317 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,839 Speaker 2: She showed him this post. Oh my god, you are 1318 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 2: built entirely different. 1319 00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 4: This would be such a good movie. 1320 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 2: This is a good script. 1321 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 3: He took about eight minutes to read the whole thing, 1322 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 3: and when he finished, he put the phone down and 1323 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 3: stared straight ahead like he was dumbfounded, scared, confused, all 1324 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 3: at the same time. I started throwing out every excuse 1325 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 3: an apology I could muster at the moment for about 1326 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 3: fifteen minutes straight when he decided to tell me to stop, 1327 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:19,439 Speaker 3: and I did. 1328 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 2: Then he just sat there. 1329 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 3: And sobbed uncontrollably for about ten minutes before he finally 1330 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 3: asked me how much of our relationship and how much 1331 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 3: of my identity was fabricated according to his liking. I 1332 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 3: told him the honest truth that none of my personality 1333 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:34,920 Speaker 3: or identity was fabricated for him. 1334 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,879 Speaker 2: Girl, do you believe that? That's because if you believe that. 1335 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 4: So I was playing this whole game, some of the 1336 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 4: parts of it would be like my TRUSSEEU, I probably like, 1337 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 4: I'm really not that into. 1338 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 3: Star Trek except for the fact of how we met. 1339 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 3: The only thing I ever changed about myself to make 1340 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,760 Speaker 3: him like me more was lying about liking Chinese food 1341 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 3: because I hate Chinese food. 1342 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, that's what okay? 1343 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 2: Oh cool. 1344 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 3: Well, that's one thing. It's one thing, But other than that, 1345 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 3: everything else was real. Although my friendship with his young 1346 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 3: your brother was built upon ill intentions, my friendship between 1347 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 3: his brother and I is now one of the most 1348 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 3: genuine friendships. 1349 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 2: That I have. 1350 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 3: He just cried and told me that he doesn't want 1351 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 3: a divorce at all, but he does want us to 1352 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 3: have some time of part so that he can absorb 1353 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 3: the truth that I gave him. He also said that 1354 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 3: he expects me to tell his brother and mom this Friday, 1355 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 3: because they deserve to know the truth just as much 1356 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 3: as he did. I told him okay, and we drove 1357 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 3: the rest of the ride home in silence. When we 1358 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 3: got home, he hugged me and cried for about five 1359 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 3: minutes before he got out of the car, packed his 1360 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 3: stuff and said that he'll be staying at a nearby 1361 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 3: hotel for now. He said that he knows that he 1362 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 3: still loves me, but does not yet know how to 1363 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 3: react to the fact that the beginning of our relationship 1364 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 3: was very, very orchestrated. To sum it all up, I 1365 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 3: guess telling him was a success. I honestly don't know. 1366 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 3: He sent me a good night and I love you 1367 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 3: text last night while he was at the hotel, so 1368 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 3: I guess he's not so much mad as he may 1369 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 3: feel betrayed. 1370 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 2: And there's another update. 1371 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 4: I think they filled it portrade. 1372 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,920 Speaker 3: Can you imagine if you felt like you had been 1373 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 3: tricked for ten years by your wife that you just 1374 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 3: married a year ago, Like if you like your girlfriend, 1375 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 3: like if she if she's secretly told you, like, yeah, 1376 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 3: I've known you for seven years, and that random happenstance 1377 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 3: how we met wasn't random at all. I entered that 1378 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 3: contest to win that. 1379 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 2: So that he would bring me there so I could 1380 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 2: meet you. 1381 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 3: Hey, what did I say at the beginning? Guys, find 1382 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 3: you a girl who actually likes you this much? Well, 1383 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 3: it scares you? 1384 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 2: Oh right? 1385 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 4: My response is, oh, that's cute. But I've never been 1386 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 4: that deep into it, So I don't really know. 1387 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 3: How many people have really been in that deep where 1388 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 3: it's like somebody is scheming for ten years. 1389 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 4: I do kind of have like someone that kind of 1390 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 4: stalks me a little bit, but like I'm not interested 1391 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 4: in them. 1392 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 2: Okay, see, but it's you already know about it. 1393 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I already know. 1394 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 3: I did I know about it until a year into 1395 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 3: their marriage. I woke up this morning to find out 1396 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 3: that the hubby not only lied about going to a 1397 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 3: hotel to stay at, but also lied about not wanting 1398 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 3: a divorce through a text message. Well, if I can 1399 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 3: just interrupt the real quick, I don't think he was 1400 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 3: necessarily lying. I think he was just trying to compute 1401 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 3: one of the most unbelievable things he's probably heard in 1402 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 3: his entire life. 1403 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 4: And he's probably scared. 1404 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't know what to say it that moment. 1405 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 3: He probably meant it. In that moment, He's like, I 1406 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 3: don't want a divorce. I just need time to think. 1407 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 3: Then he thought about it and he was like, yo, 1408 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 3: I need a divorce now. He went to his family's home, 1409 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 3: not a hotel, and then told the entire story himself, 1410 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 3: probably exaggerated it too to make me seem crazy. 1411 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 4: That could be boss, you know what. 1412 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't want to say. That's impossible. 1413 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 3: His whole family wants nothing to do with me and 1414 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 3: claims I'm a psycho. He said that he lied about 1415 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 3: going to a hotel because he knew if he told 1416 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 3: the truth, I would try to stop him. Honestly, I 1417 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 3: feel so betrayed. Shut the hell up, girl, you lied 1418 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 3: to him. The entire time you with. 1419 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 4: This happens, they're like, you can't do this, you can't 1420 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:37,920 Speaker 4: do that, you can't do this, can't do that. And 1421 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 4: the second they do one of the things, while they're 1422 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 4: doing all these other things, it's like, watch you do that, 1423 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 4: you trade me, And it's like huge double standard. 1424 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 3: It's like you got to be able to understand that 1425 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 3: this guy just had the biggest like truth bomb of 1426 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 3: all time dropped on him, this woman he's in love with, 1427 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 3: and thought it was all just magical fame. Now has 1428 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 3: all been thrown completely upside down. And by the way, 1429 00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 3: you can join us live on YouTube every weekday at 1430 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 3: three p MPSC just tap our profile. 1431 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 2: I tried to be a good wife by showing him 1432 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 2: the true me. 1433 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 3: This person is completely unhinged and this is what he does. 1434 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 3: I did all this work just for it to end 1435 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 3: up like this. Honestly, I kind of deserve it. I 1436 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 3: didn't even tell him in the first place because I 1437 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 3: felt bad. I told him because I had a suspicion 1438 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 3: that he was catching on to the fact that I 1439 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 3: knew him for two and a half years before he 1440 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 3: knew me, largely because I found out he was keeping 1441 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 3: my old phone in his work desk, my old phone 1442 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 3: that has screenshots of a lot of his old Instagram posts, 1443 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 3: plans in my notes app about him, et cetera. So 1444 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 3: I guess he never truly loved me if he can't 1445 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 3: even get past an honest confession like this one. I 1446 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 3: might update this in a few years when I find 1447 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 3: a new husband. 1448 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 4: New project. 1449 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 3: Shout out to the unfortunate soul that becomes this person's 1450 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 3: next husband.