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Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, A production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio Together Everything, So don't don't hello, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Worst Year Ever? Is this the way I'm opening the show?

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Speaker 1: I think it is. My name is Katie. You guys,

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Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. It's gonna get better. Oh, it can't

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Speaker 1: be better than this. The energy is at an all

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Speaker 1: time high. Speaking of Hi, Hi, I'm Cody. H I'm

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Speaker 1: also Cody, but better Cody. That's also true's leg and that.

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Speaker 1: But this information contradicts what I already know about you,

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Speaker 1: which is that you are Robert Evans. That doesn't sound

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Speaker 1: right the Robert Evans, you know, Katie. In journalism, we

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Speaker 1: require three sources to confirm a fact like that, and

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Speaker 1: I don't believe you have that much confirmation I've got,

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Speaker 1: and Cody confirming doesn't seem like Cody is confirming. I said, so,

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Speaker 1: I think I think this This is The Washington Post

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Speaker 1: would call this a disputed fact. We're at two and

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Speaker 1: a half pinocchios. Right, It's impossible to the truth. I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I could dig up a birth certificate, but

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Speaker 1: who cares. We've got to cody that thing a long

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Speaker 1: time ago to protect myself from the government. Can I

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Speaker 1: just say, can we just say Cody Squared, Cody's Johnson.

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Speaker 1: We're work shopping new bits that we can put on

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Speaker 1: T shirts. Maybe that's one of them. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one too. Send us your fan art.

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Speaker 1: We're work shopping new bits for T shirts. That's a

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Speaker 1: new slogan. That's the today. We're just cataloging new slogans. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about today, only that as these things.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the news. Yeah, um well, there's there's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of stuff to get through today. We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a Hodgepodge wild Bride, good time vibes all around. Um,

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Speaker 1: let's start with impeachment. Speaking of wild hodge Podge Wild,

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Speaker 1: what was your guys experience. I've been trying my best

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Speaker 1: to turn off the internet on the weekends at least

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Speaker 1: a little bit more stay away. I'll check in the morning, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, just to see what kind of likes I've

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Speaker 1: been showered with. Um, I think you had this viral overnight.

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Speaker 1: Um no, but then I I will maybe check in

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Or I think you

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Speaker 1: had the exact same thing as me on Saturday. Were

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Speaker 1: you unplugged, like right when they said they were doing

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Speaker 1: witnesses and then you went back and then he was acquitted. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's what I was building to. I had the exact

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Speaker 1: I read your dream. I was like, say, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: like up in the morning to the news that they

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Speaker 1: will be calling witnesses. There was that. Uh was at

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post that was reporting on Friday about the call.

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Speaker 1: Uh was Kevin McCarthy, Uh the day of the insurrection

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Speaker 1: on this phone with Donald Trump saying called him off,

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Speaker 1: called him off. And then Donald Trump was like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: those are a bunch of Antifa people, and he's like, nah, dude,

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Speaker 1: their Trump supporters. And then Donald Trump says something to

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Speaker 1: the lines of well, at least they care enough to

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Speaker 1: do something about it. And we've got people willing to

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Speaker 1: testify and talk about it, and we're all gung hope.

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Speaker 1: But then by the end of the day he had

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Speaker 1: indeed been acquitted. That was a wild ride for me, guys,

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Speaker 1: you but um, we did it. We held him accountable,

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Speaker 1: We held account got all the facts in front of everybody. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean they didn't even do that because they didn't

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Speaker 1: them in a bunch of witnesses and keep it going,

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Speaker 1: and everyone wanted to go home to get fucked or

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Speaker 1: open restaurants that were can have another. And it's like, God,

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Speaker 1: I'm just so that was disgusting first of all, so

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Speaker 1: black pilled right now because it's it's we couldn't do it,

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Speaker 1: couldn't do a proper impeachment, couldn't call all the witnesses

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Speaker 1: we need, couldn't impeach the guy, which I guess I

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Speaker 1: can forgive, just because the realities of how that vote

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Speaker 1: but I can't forgive. Is like the Democrats have completely

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Speaker 1: failed to get any kind of aid package out. They're

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Speaker 1: taking another week long break, and while we have no

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Speaker 1: aid package, people are not getting checks. A horrible winter

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Speaker 1: storm is hitting, the President is getting ready to start

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Speaker 1: touring again. Joe Biden decides that the next the next

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Speaker 1: when again, no one has a fucking aid package. Like,

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Speaker 1: important things such a believe. Right, So you're not doing that.

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Speaker 1: You spend these things up to not do that. But

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Speaker 1: it was more. It was more bipartisan than one would expect.

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Speaker 1: But also like, yeah, they did the thing. Also, they

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Speaker 1: also doing what a nine eleven commission style thing about

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Speaker 1: the January six, So like, that's so you're not actually

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Speaker 1: gonna the trials? Really offensive to me, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: it was not a trial because the jurors were also

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Speaker 1: the victims and also co conspirators, and also met with

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Speaker 1: it's like if you were putting a serial killer on

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Speaker 1: trial and the jury was an even mix of family

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Speaker 1: members of the people he killed and the folks who

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Speaker 1: sold him bone saws um. Also, one thing I'm very

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Speaker 1: upset about actually is that they deprived us of the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to see Donald Trump speak, yes at this trial. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: why why couldn't you at least give us that what,

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Speaker 1: watch him do his thing, give him to give him

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Speaker 1: a few minutes? Lawyer? Could you have made him come?

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Speaker 1: Because they were turned it down? Is there some protections

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Speaker 1: Katie So talking about Donald Trump semen I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: got about forty six pages prepared. Should we just he

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Speaker 1: prepares he produced a semen um. Yes, he's had a

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Speaker 1: long held theory that he's never had sex. So I

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he's had sex. You can produce

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Speaker 1: ever bitten into a fast food hamburger and then had

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Speaker 1: that believe it's called toothpasting. That's how he ejaculates. But

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Speaker 1: I also imagine that it smells exactly like apple cider vinegar. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Also the drip, I don't know that it's inside, it goes,

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Speaker 1: is corrupted apple cider vinegar. Yeah, it's like apple cider

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Speaker 1: vinegar that's been mixed with mayonnaise and left in a

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Speaker 1: apple cider vinegar sauce that's been left in jim shoes

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Speaker 1: Fiesta and a hundred and fifteen degree heat with nineties

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Speaker 1: started recording, he had a call to discuss T shirt designs,

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Speaker 1: as I I hinted at earlier in the episode, and

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Speaker 1: the only recurrent bit we could come up with was, um,

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Speaker 1: you know our discussion of politicians come and here we

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Speaker 1: are continuing that. Well, yeah, it's I don't enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Although to be serious for a moment, Okay, perhaps if

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Speaker 1: we let Donald Trump speak, um, uh, he would have

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Speaker 1: incited for violence. Honestly, there is absolutely something you've said

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Speaker 1: about that. Let's give him back a platform, Let's put

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Speaker 1: interfered with Congress's constitutional duties. Suit also names the Proud

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Speaker 1: not doing anything. Yeah, No, reconciliation is necessary because they're

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Speaker 1: and congratulations. Also like one of the I forget which

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Speaker 1: Is this like oh wow, the this in a bipartisan move.

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Speaker 1: He he comes out against Trump's like, no, he did

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Speaker 1: he helped he did it, and now he's this like,

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Speaker 1: it's just cancel culture, cancel culture, cure. I have so

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Speaker 1: many thoughts about cancel culture political strategy, because what cancel

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Speaker 1: culture actually is is the idea that like, doing bad

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Speaker 1: things should have consequences, and they've turned that into if

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Speaker 1: the Holocaust. That that's conservatism, right, That the idea that

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Speaker 1: we all contribute to each other's welfare is the same

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Speaker 1: as being a Nazi. That's that's where the Hitler was

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Speaker 1: a socialist. Stuff leads right. That is the essence of

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Speaker 1: the American right is that And this is this is

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Speaker 1: everyone has known this was coming. I was just one

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Speaker 1: of my very favorite UM blogs on pathos. Um it was.

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Speaker 1: It's by the same guy. Uh oh, jeez, I'm spacing

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Speaker 1: on his name right now. Um. But he he wrote

435
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: a very long series of views about the left behind

436
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: books he analyzes like evangelical culture. He put together an

437
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: article in like two thousand eleven pointing out that the

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Speaker 1: US power grid everyone knows is heading towards collapse. And

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00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: one of the points was that all of the infrastructure

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Speaker 1: in our national power grid was made on like a

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Speaker 1: thirty year cycle, and we're now past like fifty five

442
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: years without replacing most of it and upgrading most of it. Um.

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Speaker 1: It is unbelievably reckless, and everyone knew this was going

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Speaker 1: to be a problem. The only power grid in the

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Speaker 1: nation for all that people shipped on California that's not

446
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Speaker 1: completely fucked right now is the West Coast power grid.

447
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: Even the East Coast grid's doing better than Texas is grid.

448
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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about why Texas has its own grid,

449
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: but it has. It has been overstressed, and the only

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Speaker 1: reason that it did not have a cascading failure the

451
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Speaker 1: last day or two is because Montreal gave us power

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Speaker 1: right um. And by the way, the only reason texas

453
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Speaker 1: is power grid didn't collapse entirely during a series of

454
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Speaker 1: storms in two thousand eleven is that Mexico contributed power.

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Speaker 1: So we're the equivalent of a guy who keeps going

456
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: into the doctor and the doctor says, hey, you're drinking

457
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: nineteen coca cola is a day and you're pre diabetic.

458
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: You have to cut down on the soda. It's the

459
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: single part of your diet that is pushing your body

460
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: towards calamity. And every year you go, well, fuck that guy, uh,

461
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Speaker 1: and then you wind up with horrific health consequences. And

462
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not a surprise, and that is what

463
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Speaker 1: we're doing. We have the ailment was diagnosed like twenty

464
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: years ago. The solution is very very clear. It is

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Speaker 1: not hard. It is not beyond our material capacity or

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Speaker 1: our financial capacity to handle. We chose not to deal

467
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Speaker 1: with this, and in part because we chose to invest

468
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Speaker 1: in foreign wars, but in part because there's just an

469
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Speaker 1: extreme distaste by many Americans and not just Republicans, because

470
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Speaker 1: Democrats don't like to spend money on infrastructure either, not really,

471
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Speaker 1: not in a way that's COMPREHENSI ever effective. Um, they're

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Speaker 1: better at it, Which is part of why I think

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about Texas is grid in the second it's

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Speaker 1: part of why Texas is doing the worst out of everybody,

475
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Speaker 1: because Texas has this commitment to right wing libertarian ideas

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Speaker 1: of deregulation. Um. But this, this, none of this is

477
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Speaker 1: a problem of This is not even really a climate

478
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Speaker 1: change problem. Right. The more severe weather is an aspect

479
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Speaker 1: of climate change. But the fact that we're dealing with

480
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Speaker 1: power issues is not climate change is fault. It's our

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Speaker 1: fault because we knew this was a problem and refused

482
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Speaker 1: to take action. Climate change stresses this in such a

483
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Speaker 1: way that shows the problem for what it is. But

484
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Speaker 1: if not this something else, we could have horrible climate

485
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Speaker 1: change related disaster and a functional power grid. Which is

486
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Speaker 1: not to say that we should be horrible climate change disaster.

487
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Speaker 1: If you're not going to take any action on climate change,

488
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Speaker 1: might at least have a functioning power grid. But we

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Speaker 1: we don't and we won't. I don't know. It's just

490
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: it's so important. Like we can criticize the Ted cruise

491
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: as we can criticize those dummies all we want, but

492
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: we have to also understand that it's on both sides

493
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Speaker 1: of people being ineffective, um, and that not we all

494
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 1: come together. This is nonpartisan. But yeah, we need some

495
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: people that are willing to be brave, be brave because

496
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: it is not the most popular thing to talk about.

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Speaker 1: And you know, but it's critical. It's just it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's um, it's completely critical. And I guess now

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00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: we should talk about why Texas is having a particular problem.

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Speaker 1: So Texas wind, it's wind's fault. There are it's we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about that too. There are three power grids in

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Speaker 1: the continental United States. There's the East Coast Grid, which

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Speaker 1: is not called the East Coast grid, but it's the

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Speaker 1: eastern chunk of the country. There's the western chunk of

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Speaker 1: the country grid, which is like from like Wyoming over

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Speaker 1: to California and north to south. And then there's Texas UM,

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Speaker 1: and all of Texas is not on the Texas grid.

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Speaker 1: Part of the Panhandle, like around Lubbock believe or Leah

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Speaker 1: around Lubbock is UM part of the West Coast grid,

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Speaker 1: and a little bit of the eastern side of Texas

511
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: is part of the East Coast grid. But about eight

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Speaker 1: percent of Texas is on its own grid, and it

513
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Speaker 1: is the only state that is like that UM. And

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Speaker 1: there are a number of reasons to it. There's a

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Speaker 1: great Texas Tribune article on it that basically says that

516
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Speaker 1: you can sum it up as fuck the Feds, right,

517
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Speaker 1: funk the federal government. UM. Texas did not want to

518
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: be not just like they didn't want to be part

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00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: of the federal government's grid. They didn't want to be

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Speaker 1: subject to regulation by the Department of Energy. Right that.

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Speaker 1: That's the key part of it UM. And as a result,

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Speaker 1: it allows because the system so deregulated UM, a decent

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Speaker 1: chunk of Texas functions under like energy monopolies. UM, and

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Speaker 1: you've got and it's you know, it's it's more profitable

525
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: and whatnot. There's there's most Most of the state is

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Speaker 1: run by a nonprofit called air COT, which is the

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Speaker 1: Electric Reliability Council of Texas UM, which is technically a nonprofit,

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Speaker 1: and they're the ones who are supposed to be managing

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Speaker 1: UM all of this ship. But it it because Texas

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Speaker 1: has its own grid that is not subject to Department

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Speaker 1: of Energy regulation. UM, they don't have to keep up

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Speaker 1: to the same standards, and as a result, while the

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Speaker 1: entire US power grid is in bad shape, Texas is

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Speaker 1: in Texas is in particularly bad shape. So let's talk

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Speaker 1: about wind power. People have been talking about how, oh

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Speaker 1: the wind, Like, the reason Texas failed is because the

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Speaker 1: wind power plants failed. That's literally the opposite of the truth. UM.

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Speaker 1: What people are pointing out is that the total amount

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Speaker 1: of wattage UH that that we're short by is slightly

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Speaker 1: more than the capacity that wind power should provide in Texas.

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Speaker 1: That's not accurate. We're out about thirty or four thousand

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Speaker 1: megawatts something like that. UM, it's about thirty thousand is

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Speaker 1: what UH Texas is. Windpower is potentially capable of generating UM,

544
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: but that's not what it ever generates, right, It's not

545
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: supposed to generate that much. It goes lower in the winter,

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Speaker 1: and based on their expectations for this month, windpower has

547
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: been punching about, has been over providing, it's been providing

548
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: more power than they anticipated for it to provide. The

549
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: reason that Texas had a shortfall is because natural gas

550
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: funked up in the weather. Right, Our natural gas plants

551
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: stopped functioning, and some of our nuclear our nuclear plant

552
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: has like a nuclear plant has gone offline as well. UM.

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00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: It is not wind energy that caused the shortfall that

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Speaker 1: is currently a problem for Texas. UM. It's more than anything.

555
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: Are outdated and and completely like predictable problem. And one

556
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Speaker 1: of the things that could have helped is we that

557
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: natural gas tends to have these kinds of failures in

558
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Speaker 1: these temperatures. If we were connected more to the rest

559
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: of the national grid, we could potentially be pulling power

560
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: from the West coast or something. UM. There are ways

561
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: they could have prepared for this. I found a good

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Speaker 1: article in the Houston Chronicle, UM, and I'm going to

563
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: quote from this now because it puts a lot of

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Speaker 1: the problems in context, and more broadly speaking, it puts

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Speaker 1: the issue that we are in the that are that

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Speaker 1: the US electric grid is in right now, in the

567
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: Texas electric grid is in right now in some context

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00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: that I think is interesting, especially given conservatisms dimensions in

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Speaker 1: this quote. Ed Hers, an energy fellow in the Department

570
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Speaker 1: of Economics at the University of Houston, blamed the failures

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00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: on the states deregulated power system, which doesn't provide power

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00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: generators with the returns needed to invest in maintaining and

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Speaker 1: improving power plants. The Aircot grid has collapsed in exactly

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Speaker 1: the same manner as the old Soviet Union, said Hers.

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00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: It limped along on under investment and neglect until it

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00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: finally broke under addictable circumstances. For more than a decade,

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00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: generators have not been able to charge what it costs

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00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: them to produce electricity, said Hers. If you don't make

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00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: your return on your money, how can you keep it up.

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00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: It's like not taking care of your car. If you

581
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: don't change the oil and tires, you can't expect your

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00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: car to be ready to evacuate, let alone to get

583
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: you to work. So again, all very predictable, all very reasonable,

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00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: all based on deregulation and a refusal to invest in

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00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: any sort of of community safety or welfare whatsoever. Um,

586
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: it's cool ship. I love my home state, and I

587
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: think that we can all expect to see some significant

588
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: changes being made in the near future to address this. No.

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00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: I think they're going to blame wind power and try

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Speaker 1: to cut funding the Wind Pact, and they're going to deregulate. Yeah. Um, yeah,

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00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: are going to invest in the free market. Yeah. Have

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00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: you guys seen any conversation or response about when they

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00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: can expect to be putting people, turning people to electricity

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00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: back on getting power back? Um geez. I think probably

595
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: later in the week. But we're getting another ice storm

596
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: and snowstorm tonight. Um. I don't genuinely worried about so

597
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: many people right now. Yeah, I don't think there's really

598
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: a good understanding of when things will get better or

599
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: how likely it is that they will get better. Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean this, this has the potential to be like

601
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Speaker 1: a Katrina level problem. I'm hoping it won't get that bad.

602
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: But four million Texans and change or have no power

603
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: right now. Last I checked, more than a hundred thousand

604
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: people in Dallas under a boil advisory because water treatment

605
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: plants failed as a result of the oil advisory. A

606
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: boil advisory means that the water treatment plants are not

607
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: treated water. So you need to boil snow or whatever.

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00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: You need to boil water that comes out of your

609
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: faucet in order to make sure it's clean. Actually, you

610
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: don't really thought it was a warning for people about

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00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: some condition that will give them boils. Um, No, it's

612
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: and and and now also Corpus Christie. I believe it

613
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: is on the coast is under a boil advisory, and

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00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure it will have spread more by the time

615
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: you hear this episode. Because just again, necessary basic infrastructure

616
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Speaker 1: that is required in order to maintain what we consider

617
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: to be the basics of modern life was not invested

618
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: in because it's expensive kind of money. Where would we

619
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: make that kind of money. Where would we get money

620
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: to to pay for these things? We're tapped out, got

621
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: these people asking for handouts. We've got to give the

622
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: rich people tax breaks, We've got to spend money on

623
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: the military, all of the money and the police. So

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry everyone, you just can't have electricity. I don't

625
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: think you're sorry, Hi, you're right. Yeah, it's rad It's

626
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: very frustrating. Also physically the lies, like the blatant lies

627
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: where it's like, well that's just not true. Um. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: There was a snort snow tornado in Texas that was

629
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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more, Katie snort. Um. On that note,

630
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: I think it's time for a little a break, no

631
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: day together everything, So don't don't We're bad. Oh I

632
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: should say one other thing about infrastructure and collapse and

633
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: ship um, because this is another another example of how

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00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: climate change is a massive problem, but also a lot

635
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: of the problems that we're having as a result of

636
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: climate change are actually problems as a result of us

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Speaker 1: to take very basic preparedness steps and preventative steps. Um.

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00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: In Portland's right, one of the big reasons why their

639
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: grid is so fucked and so many people are out

640
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: of power is that Portlands has above ground power lines,

641
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: which are not the best way to do power lines. Um.

642
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: The fact that it makes them you know, they get

643
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: they get shipped on them, they collapse. Uh. They Also

644
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: the reason we had so many fires in Oregon last

645
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: year is because power lines would go down in the

646
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: wind and then spark and then catch hundreds of thousands

647
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: of acres on fire, and people died as a result

648
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: of this. And there was there was a great video

649
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 1: at the time, because there are these all these myths

650
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: that Antifa was outstarting the fires. There was a wonderful

651
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: video of a group of wildlands a wildfire firefighters like

652
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: on their way to fight a fire, and one of

653
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: the guys was like, look, there's one thing starting all

654
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: these fires. It's fucking power lines. You know how I

655
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: know that because every year, for years, one thing has

656
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: been starting all of the forest fires. It's fucking power

657
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: lines getting blown down and then sparking. And we can

658
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: fix this because the twenty one century and we can

659
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: bury our fucking power lines. And it's again this like, yes,

660
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: the dry conditions, the increased wind, the increased heat, uh in,

661
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: the increased rain that leads more vegetation to burn, all

662
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: climate change related problems, but a lot of the fires

663
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: are just starting because we won't bury our goddamn power lines. Um.

664
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of that in California too. There's

665
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: a ton of it in California. Modest investments in infrastructure

666
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: could fix these things. We won't do it though also

667
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: for forest fires, we could also look to that, especially

668
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: here in California mentioned this at the time. You're the

669
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: wildfire season here. We ignore the history of indigenous people

670
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: that lived here before us, and we do not respect

671
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: this earth that you know, And yeah, we just ignore

672
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: the advice and the wisdom that other people have accumulated.

673
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: Just do our own thing, and it's wrong and common

674
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: knowledge and sense all of that. But I think that

675
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: that's bears repeating, especially if we're talking about forest fires. Anyway,

676
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: We've got more topics to discuss this week. Uh, Robert,

677
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: you sent around that article, that VR article. Hell yeah,

678
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: I did want to dig into that. What were the

679
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: other things I want to talk about? Let's go with that.

680
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's yeah end on a really Uh, unless

681
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: you'd rather talk about gun reform legislation, No, let's let's

682
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: talk about let's talk about this VR thing into a

683
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: few a full world where everything is fine, guys. You

684
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: don't have to aspire to a better life. You don't

685
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: need to have things that other people have. You can

686
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: have it in virtual reality. Yeah, things like a house

687
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: that isn't freezing, that heat, food that isn't spoiling you know, UM,

688
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: a government that isn't run by kleptocrats who steal your

689
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: money in order to give it to Jeff Bezos so

690
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 1: that he can send a penis into space. We should

691
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: we should describe this article first. We should describe this article. Yeah,

692
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: we should talk about the article. Sorry you want you

693
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: want to go, Katie? I just talked to bunch. Uh uh,

694
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: well we should Uh we'll circle back to the space penis. UM.

695
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: This So this is an article about UM. Basically we've

696
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: been Here's the title Billionaire CVR is a Way to

697
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: avoid Radical Social Change, O contell Yeah, it's about using

698
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: the VR basically as as UM. You know, this tech

699
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: gets uh less and less expensive, more and more of

700
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: the poores can have it, which means that we can

701
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: create worlds within worlds UM to basically give people a

702
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: taste of what they do not have in order to

703
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: placate them UM and not think that, um, the material

704
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: world is changeable, that better things can happen in the

705
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: real world because you have a virtual world to escape

706
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: to the gist. It's it's one of those things, UM.

707
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: And I see you see this a lot with a

708
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: lot of these just fucking billionaire nerds um who have

709
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: like uh read every single like sci fi dystopia and

710
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: gone like I didn't learn anything from that. Let's do

711
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: the things. Yeah, here's here's a good uh quote. Uh.

712
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: This is from John Carmack, who is uh Doom co

713
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: creator and former CDO of Oculus um and and he says,

714
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: for this article, not everyone can have a mansion, not

715
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: everyone kind of a home theater. These are things we

716
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: can simulate to some degree in virtual virtual reality. Now

717
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: the simulation is not as good as the real thing.

718
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: If you're rich and you have your own home theater

719
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: or a a mansion or private island, good for you. You're

720
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: probably not the people that are going to benefit from this.

721
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: Most of the people in the world lived in cramped

722
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: requarters that are not what they would choose to be

723
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: if they had unlimited resources. So yeah, station is to

724
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: give them a very experience left to them. Meets a

725
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: virtual kidfit who is still relevant. Also, it's right, the

726
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: Doom guy. It's very Uh. It's an extra fascinating too

727
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: because um like Zuckerberg isn't like heavily featured this article

728
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: or anything like that. He's not one of the quota

729
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: is slightly too smart to be interviewed for this, Yes, UM,

730
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: but I would UM, I would highly doubt that he

731
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: um is not you know, thinking the same kind of

732
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: stuff UM about VR and it's usefulness. Um. I'm just

733
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: as I was reading this, I was contrasting it with

734
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: UM Zuckerberg going on a virtual tour of Puerto Rico

735
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: that happened, but you're right, yeah, uh and talking about

736
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: how like it was actually it was to show how

737
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: useful virtual reality is to uh, to you know, give

738
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: people empathy, um, and be able to empathize with places

739
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: you're not. And it's just uh, it's so it's such

740
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: a great contrast to the article because it's like literally like,

741
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: oh yeah, if you're rich in this other in this

742
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: other society, uh, you can pop on the VR and

743
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: see the devastation that you don't have to experience. And

744
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: then if you are there, you get the worst VR

745
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: where you can pretend that you're you know, having a nice,

746
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: a nice cooked steak. There's there's another line in here,

747
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: um from Carmack. That's how the world gets better by

748
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: building technologies and distributing them to people so that they

749
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: have something better than they would have had if that

750
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: didn't exist. Okay, just the the image of you I

751
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: mean with this article is illustrating. Is also like how

752
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: these these tech companies um position themselves as you know,

753
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 1: changing the world, liberating the world. But it's actually quite

754
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: the opposite. And what are these virtual reality worlds that

755
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: are being built? Are you actually addressing systemic issues or

756
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: talking about stuff? No, you're you're I think the line

757
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: in here is like you're giving a glamorized version of

758
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: the world without the realities that we all face, you know,

759
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: without just tiptoeing around the ugliness, uh, so that people

760
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: can forget about it for a few minutes. Also, these

761
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: things are very expensive. Rich people are the only people

762
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 1: I can afford it. It's not even that I don't

763
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: even think the expense is the big part of it is.

764
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: What's so rational about this to me is the idea

765
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: that if you're living in a cramped, squalid home without

766
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: proper services, that is incredibly uncomfortable and bleak, putting on

767
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: a VR helmet doesn't let you simulate living in a

768
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: better home. It lets you look at a nicer home,

769
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: right Like, You're not You're not gonna feel like your

770
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: bed isn't a mattress you pulled out of the garbage

771
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. You're not going to feel like you

772
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: have hot water even though your hot water heater is broken.

773
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: You're not going to feel like you have a couboard

774
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: for full of food even though your check doesn't come

775
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: for another nine days and you've got nothing but two

776
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: packets of ramen in the house, Like, none of it.

777
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: You just get to look at a nice house. So

778
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: it's like, even within the concept of like what these

779
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: guys are saying it could do, the only actual impact

780
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: I imagine simulating wealth would have in virtual reality is

781
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: it would increase people's desire to pick up a set

782
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: of bolt cutters and break into the homes of the

783
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: rich and then do things that we can't talk about

784
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: in a podcast. He would hope, Yeah, I would hope it. Yeah,

785
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: it's um, it's uh selling people a picture of a

786
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: nice place, um and letting them look at it. It's

787
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: just scary. Also, you're like, I mean the goals ultimately, yeah,

788
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: make you feel happy with what you have content. Let's

789
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: let's scratch that urge without actually having to do anything

790
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: for you. But that's a dangerous dystopian novel to me

791
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: of all this Yeah, just sorry, No, that was the

792
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: end of every every just every day there's a new

793
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: thing like this that is just like and it's it's

794
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: such an easy go to but like, well that's a

795
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: black mirror episode. Well that's this sci fi dystopia. That's

796
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: that's that was warned about decades ago about what we

797
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: shouldn't do. And much like good power grids, right, like

798
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: just all this stuff. It's like, well, what do you

799
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: get out of those things? Um? Do you learn from them? Uh? Anything? Nothing?

800
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: You learned that Well, the people on top win, so

801
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: I should be one of those people and then make

802
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: life worse for everybody else. Um, it's just disgusting, uh

803
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: and bizarre, and we get closer every day and phrase

804
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: that he described peripheral, Yeah, God, I hate all of

805
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: these fucking people so much. Um, it's it must be

806
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: so frustrating to be one of the dudes who invented

807
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: cyberpunk back in the day as like a warning, seeing

808
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: instead everyone just be like, oh the aesthetics of this

809
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: are neat let's make it happen. Yeah, it's the miss

810
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 1: uh just misses the mark so much. Even his response

811
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: to like things that we're saying about um, like you know, well,

812
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: that's not really the real world. Then you're creating this

813
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: sort of false image of of like like you like

814
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: like you were saying, like you're you're showing them a

815
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: picture of what other people have. UM, And he's not right.

816
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: It's not a holidack. AND's not like I live in Dallas,

817
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: it's a hundred degrees here. Well not anymore, it's a

818
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: hundred degrees there. We change the world around us and

819
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: all that we do. We live in air conditioning. People

820
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: don't generally go, oh, you're not experiencing the world around

821
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: you because of air conditioning. That is what human beings do.

822
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: We bend the world to our world. That's not what

823
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: you're doing virtual reality. That's actual reality. You're creating a

824
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 1: condition that's habitable through air conditioning, so that it's not

825
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: it's not all it's real. It's real cold that a

826
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: person in air conditioning doesn't think like, oh, wow, this

827
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: is a picture of somebody looking cooler than than the

828
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: heat outside. No, it's literally you feel that way. I

829
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: think it's also important to acknowledge something that is acknowledged

830
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: in the article, which is that people keep saying virtual reality,

831
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: well we'll take over and you know, really take hold,

832
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: and we haven't seen that happen. Like, you know, there

833
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: has been a bit of a modest increase in virtual

834
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: reality headset sales during the pandemic UM, but not compared

835
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: to video games in general. Part of that is the

836
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: fact that it is cost prohibitive for most people. The

837
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: article discusses how eventually it will become more affordable for

838
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: the masses, and that's like the general goal, but it

839
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: isn't taking root. You know. I'm sure that's a distraction,

840
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: but it's not doing the thing that people want it

841
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: to do. And that's kind of what this feels like.

842
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: How do we make this drug more affordable and addicting

843
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: to people, to the people that actually could benefit from

844
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: virtual reality versus the people that are wealthy enough to

845
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: spend a most disposable income on a toy like this.

846
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: How do we subdue how we more efficiently subdue uh

847
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: people in poor conditions um and keep them there without

848
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: complaining too much? H put some soma in the water.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I take it too far. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it is it is all like it's all that

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Speaker 1: stuff that I know, I just get weird quoting dystopian

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Speaker 1: novels seeing how often the right does it to us

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Speaker 1: about there in the wrong way, Like well that's the

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Speaker 1: thing they don't Yeah, they don't. Um, they don't do

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Speaker 1: it in the right way, even like they talk about

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Speaker 1: whenever they talk about any movie, like well did you

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Speaker 1: watch the movie? Did it? Yeah? Like what do you say?

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Speaker 1: How did we get suit very different messages from this?

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Speaker 1: How do you watch these things? Um? But it's like

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Speaker 1: what the ending of Ready Player? One bad movie, terrible book?

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Speaker 1: Why is this the future that people are serious towards,

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Speaker 1: they're striving towards it. It's so bizarre because like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not only is it bad, it's a bad books, a

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Speaker 1: bad movie. Um, it's also not desirable. That movie ends

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Speaker 1: with the special boy winning the game and so he

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Speaker 1: controls the company, and like the victory is that like

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Speaker 1: he gets a nicer apartment. He does, and then people

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Speaker 1: like need to log off every once in a while.

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Speaker 1: They still have the terrible dystopian world in which they live,

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Speaker 1: which they can escape from via VR. It's still shit.

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Speaker 1: It's utter ship. It's so good, Cody. I think what

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Speaker 1: you meant to say is things are heading in a

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Speaker 1: good direction. We're on our way towards more free thing

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Speaker 1: is so sal sal salid. It's solid, it's solid, it

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Speaker 1: is fine, and no one's freezing today. We like the world.

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Speaker 1: Now things are better every we like the world and

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Speaker 1: all things are better and everyone's happy. I think that

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Speaker 1: does it for us today. Yeah, we can talk about

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Speaker 1: gun control another time. Yea, all the time in the world. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Send us on vacation. Don't worry about it. Yeah, don't

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Speaker 1: worry about it. Like like Congress, we're going on go

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Speaker 1: cashing in early, not having done our full job, because

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Speaker 1: what are you? What are you gonna do? What are

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Speaker 1: you gonna do? Listen to listen to another podcast? You

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Speaker 1: fucking you're gonna listen to another You gonna listen to

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Speaker 1: the Chopos or the Cumtowns. No, you're not. You're addicted.

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