WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Angie Martinez

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<v Speaker 1>Question. Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So Ange, you don't know this, but you're actually part

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<v Speaker 1>of our theme.

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go. What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Suprema Supremo role, Suprema Supremo role, Suprema shut, Suprema.

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<v Speaker 1>Roll, Suprema. You're gonna get a verse supremo, he says.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, yeah, she's a genius. Yeah, better than three

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<v Speaker 1>heads all rise with Martinez Supremo Supremo role. Came Suprema

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<v Speaker 1>son So Supremo role.

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<v Speaker 4>My name is Fante and I'm doing it right there

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<v Speaker 4>with Angie.

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<v Speaker 5>Ma.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's ladies night.

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<v Speaker 3>Supremo son soun Supremo role called Suprema sun Supremo Roll.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm Sugar Steve. Ye'all spit a verse for you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>up close and personal.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like, yeah, you know that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And just like Angie, I made this last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure do it again.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm Sugar Steve. Y'all spit a verse for you. Come

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<v Speaker 6>get this, Sugar. Yeah, up close and personal.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the first.

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<v Speaker 7>My name is Edgie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm in the room. Yea.

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<v Speaker 7>They made me.

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<v Speaker 4>Supp sup sup Roll.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies. Another episode of Quest Love Supreme gonna be very

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting, Steve. That was hard for delivery.

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<v Speaker 6>I practiced for eight hours.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys could have given me a heads up. I

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<v Speaker 2>would have had some bars bars for you.

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<v Speaker 1>The joy of this show is watching people think quick

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<v Speaker 1>on their feet.

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<v Speaker 2>I had anxiety because we started the show in a

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<v Speaker 2>weird unique you.

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<v Speaker 1>Got our way. See, you can't put it out there

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<v Speaker 1>like that, And what do you mean you gotta you can't.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, I have to have to say, okay, manifest anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>Anxiety.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's have them mo of silence people.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, m hm.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to breathe in seven seconds in our nose,

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<v Speaker 1>hold it five seconds in our mouth, seven seconds in,

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<v Speaker 1>hold it five seconds out, seven seconds in, five seconds out? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>are we calm?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And we all got COVID. Now you have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>how much I needed that today.

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<v Speaker 7>Really, we just don't briefe. We don't don't put that

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<v Speaker 7>in the air. He just said, only put it.

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<v Speaker 1>In the air, Steve. Only Steve's humors is his defense

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<v Speaker 1>for emotions.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I'm very disappointed in my role, calls or whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>No, you're not more disappointed than me.

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<v Speaker 6>No, No, you actually beat me you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even hear the beat. My headphones are low.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's happenings.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So, ladies and gentlemen, all guest today

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<v Speaker 1>is a super legendary figure radio Hall of Fame inductee.

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<v Speaker 1>I should add, yes, you got it inducted when I did.

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<v Speaker 1>What year?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh well, I was the year before last?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it?

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<v Speaker 2>I heard a bunch of COVID time, so we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get in all the people.

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<v Speaker 1>All the people of color basically just got lumped in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what somebody was like, Hey, there's no people

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<v Speaker 2>of color here, let's get them all.

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<v Speaker 1>In this year, right exactly. She's a taste maker who

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<v Speaker 1>I feel her voice has raised generation after generation, a

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<v Speaker 1>very trusted voice on radio. I will also say Fante

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<v Speaker 1>reminded us that she was a Grammy nominated artist. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally forgot about Ladies night, I've come out about

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<v Speaker 1>right exactly. She's an activist. She is a legend. She basically,

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<v Speaker 1>like what I truly know Angie for is her legendary interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>of which she was kind of podcasting before podcasting was

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, Like you would do these legendary half hour

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<v Speaker 1>interview blocks. I always wondered how you were able to

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<v Speaker 1>get these sort of introspective interviews from your artists in

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<v Speaker 1>these blocks without playing a bunch of music in between.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think when I came up, there was only

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<v Speaker 2>one you know, there was only one place to go.

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<v Speaker 2>It was only one station, so there was no competition.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you have no competition, you could do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want.

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<v Speaker 7>That's right. It was just hot, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 7>just hot. It was just us.

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<v Speaker 2>We were the only place to get hip hop, so

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<v Speaker 2>we could pretty much do anything we want and we

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<v Speaker 2>would win.

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<v Speaker 7>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>When competition came, I almost had to light I was

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<v Speaker 2>so sad because I knew everything was going to change.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew interviews were going to have to get shorter

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<v Speaker 2>because we're in competition. I knew that the days of

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<v Speaker 2>like doing whatever we wanted, because how it felt, we're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of over. But so I was lucky enough to

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<v Speaker 2>come up at a time where it was really just

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<v Speaker 2>a free for all, kind of a free for all.

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<v Speaker 1>I see. Oh, by the way, ladies, let's get our

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<v Speaker 1>hands to get no.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, sorry, let's get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get it together. For Angie Martinez, thanks guy. Was

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<v Speaker 1>what was the highlight of your day.

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<v Speaker 7>This is the highlight of my day.

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<v Speaker 1>This was what time did you get You asked me

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<v Speaker 1>about my day. When do you get up in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I normally get up around seven. I had to worst

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<v Speaker 2>my grain last night, so I got up in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of night three am, and then I was up

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<v Speaker 2>for a couple hours and my sleep was all messed

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<v Speaker 2>up last night anyway. So I got up today because

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<v Speaker 2>we were doing an event earlier for this big podcast

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<v Speaker 2>that we did around the Life after Death. The celebration

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<v Speaker 2>of that, I saw miss to see there, which was

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<v Speaker 2>a really nice moment in my day because I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen him in so long. And then I just was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of been floating around today. It was a stressful

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit day. That's why when I came here

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<v Speaker 2>and you telling me about how I need to meditate

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, I was really receptive to this information

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<v Speaker 2>you were giving me because it's it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I think it's important, like you got to start

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<v Speaker 1>your day with positive, good intentions.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one thing to know that, and it's another thing

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<v Speaker 2>to exercise and do it regularly and be diligent about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of us, when we wake up, we grab our phone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we doom and gloom. Literally, grabbing your phone is like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>hand me my bottle of pain, handy my stress. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>just because I'm currently in that situation with organizing the

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<v Speaker 1>Roots Picnic and these movies I'm doing, and twelve other

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<v Speaker 1>projects that you know, if we don't, if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>go inward.

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<v Speaker 8>To I like what Fonte said a few months ago,

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<v Speaker 8>that first thing he does in the morning is take

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<v Speaker 8>like a whole bunch of deep breaths, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you got to. Yeah, man, you got to. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I started doing lately that has been

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<v Speaker 2>a thing for me is I started golfing at golf Now,

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<v Speaker 2>is that like the weirdest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even believe that's me.

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<v Speaker 7>I love golf.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm jealous of you assuming north of forty people, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that have taken up golf, because that's the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, like everyone my age is now like

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<v Speaker 1>going to the golf courses, Like various members of the

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<v Speaker 1>Roots are golfing, golfing and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's two things. It's the one thing I do that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not multitasking. There's no phone involved there. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to get better at this very specific thing

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<v Speaker 2>and this whatever it is, my short game. I look

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, and it's and you're outside in this

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful environment and the grass and the sky and.

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<v Speaker 1>The who taught you how to play golf?

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<v Speaker 7>Nobody.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my girlfriends who golfs, was like, come. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't know how to golf.

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<v Speaker 7>She was like, so what none of us do? Nobody's good.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I went to just ride the cart and

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<v Speaker 2>have a drink and chill, and I did it a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of times. And then I took a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>lessons from a guy at the range.

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<v Speaker 1>And her name is not Ashley, is it?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 7>But I have golf. I do golf with actually sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say I golf.

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<v Speaker 7>With actually a few times and then I.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a hustler, like I didn't know that she was

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<v Speaker 1>that good at it. So she's good.

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<v Speaker 7>She's been golfing a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Your child, Ashley Witherspoon actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Helps with me with my podcast, by the way, too.

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<v Speaker 2>She helps with a lot of the digital on my pie.

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<v Speaker 2>And and then when we GoF we golf last week

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<v Speaker 2>actually together.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing I won't do with Ashley is anymore

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<v Speaker 1>game nights. I brought her to one game night and

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<v Speaker 1>the ship almost ended in a fight. So she's very competitive.

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<v Speaker 1>She's very intense with game nights.

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<v Speaker 5>I got to say, I'm excited to see squads of

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<v Speaker 5>women on golf courses now, especially brown and black women,

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<v Speaker 5>because that's like a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you my other friend, Jamie, another woman,

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<v Speaker 2>she's she's a Callid's head of digital and she we

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<v Speaker 2>golfed and Compton together.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, and.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a golf course in Compton.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And I don't want to be correct me if

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<v Speaker 2>I might be right outside of Compton, but it's the

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<v Speaker 2>Compton golf course where you went there and it was

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<v Speaker 2>all people called it golfing, all black and brown people golfing,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was so dope to see that and feel that,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, most golf courses not that.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not that, that's not the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So if you're going to start.

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<v Speaker 2>At any point, go there and feel and get catch

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<v Speaker 2>the vibe, and then on my list, it's a good place.

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<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to start with miniature golf first and

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<v Speaker 1>then don't do that.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't do that place.

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<v Speaker 1>So golfing is where golfing is where you find yes.

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<v Speaker 7>For me, that's a thing, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't golf every day, So clearly I need to

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<v Speaker 2>do some type of meditation in the morning. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>I have to just I know what I need to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just about getting diligent about doing it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and now that my plate is filling up because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have all these things that I want to do

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<v Speaker 2>and achieve, and sometimes it all gets overwhelming, and like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, I have to get inside. It's the only

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<v Speaker 2>way to create it or really be creative and tap

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<v Speaker 2>into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually this is my last question, like what is it

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<v Speaker 1>that is still on your bucket list for achieving that?

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<v Speaker 2>Kidding, it's it's an endless list of things. But I

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<v Speaker 2>tell you right now, as I've been doing this pod

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<v Speaker 2>that I you know, I launched the podcast, paid for it,

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<v Speaker 2>we shoot it, we have a whole production team and.

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<v Speaker 1>Very professional looking Thank you. I like it.

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<v Speaker 7>And I did that because I just wanted to have conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want anybody anybody's opinion about who I booked

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<v Speaker 2>or what we talked about.

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<v Speaker 7>I really wanted to create something that with some of

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<v Speaker 7>my heart.

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<v Speaker 2>But I learned a lot about production from this process,

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<v Speaker 2>and it made me have a little bit of confidence

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<v Speaker 2>to to be able to feel like I could do

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<v Speaker 2>what I've been really wanting to do for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>which is tell stories kind of like you. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>funny because I heard you talking about being afraid to

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<v Speaker 2>direct for a long time and kind of shying away

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<v Speaker 2>from that feeling and I and I related to that

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<v Speaker 2>so much because I felt the same way. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I know how to tell a great story. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I have a vision that maybe some people

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<v Speaker 2>don't have. And I always felt a little scared because

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I didn't go to film school or I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go to you know. And so but now I've grown

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<v Speaker 2>the confidence to feel like I actually do have a

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<v Speaker 2>perspective and a vision and a clarity and a storytelling

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<v Speaker 2>ability that I'm not really exercising to the extent that

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<v Speaker 2>I should be. And so that's kind of what the

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<v Speaker 2>next couple of years hopefully looks like for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So now do you say that, like, how's your pursuit

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<v Speaker 1>of comedy going?

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<v Speaker 7>Why do you always put me on the spot with that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I got sometimes in the river.

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<v Speaker 5>It's hard when you I mean, I think Angie can

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<v Speaker 5>speak to this. It's like, it's hard sometimes pursuing your

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<v Speaker 5>passion when you got multiple jobs.

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<v Speaker 7>But I'm girl. First of all, I still have a

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<v Speaker 7>full time radio job. I got a pocket, I got

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<v Speaker 7>seventeen jobs, right, But.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you prioritize what's calling, whatever's inside you.

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<v Speaker 7>That's like screaming to get out.

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<v Speaker 5>As we're talking about prioritizing yourself and meditation is hard.

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<v Speaker 2>No, That's why I'm so receptive to what you saw,

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<v Speaker 2>how it came in the room as soon as I'm

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<v Speaker 2>receptive to that, because I know I cannot deliver at

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<v Speaker 2>the level I want to if I am not finding

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<v Speaker 2>a place to kind of center and get creative and

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<v Speaker 2>give myself that kind of.

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<v Speaker 5>So the answer to that question is, I'm working on

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<v Speaker 5>I'm listening to you and trying to figure out where

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<v Speaker 5>to make the space because obviously you have found it.

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<v Speaker 7>And are you doing it in the morning. Are you

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<v Speaker 7>meditating and stuff?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, meditation, meditation and the comedy thing that he said,

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of took a took a She.

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<v Speaker 1>Has a comedy, she has a comedy dream that she

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<v Speaker 1>wants to pursue, and comedy is hard. Because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the only way you're going to learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to be the greatest comic ever is you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell jokes, embrace but really like embrace for

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<v Speaker 1>failure in silence, And that's the way you figure out what.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, don't you have to tell yourself and believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>When you tell yourself that you are a comedian, that you.

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<v Speaker 7>Are sold that part. And I'm not. And this is

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<v Speaker 7>what I know. I know, I'm I say that that's

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<v Speaker 7>a probable way.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I say that to say that I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>there are funny people and we notice, right there are

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<v Speaker 5>people who are.

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<v Speaker 7>Funny, and then there are comedians.

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<v Speaker 5>And so what I did was when I moved my

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<v Speaker 5>last radio job, I got fired and feeling, and I

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<v Speaker 5>moved to LA to pursue like TV dreams, and I

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to make sure that my funny. I knew formulas

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<v Speaker 5>and things, I knew to call back and things. So

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<v Speaker 5>I started doing stand up and whatnot. But it's really about,

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<v Speaker 5>like you said, being a creative and putting your stories

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<v Speaker 5>out there. So, yeah, the comedy thing, but I have stories.

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<v Speaker 2>But the only way you could do that is you

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<v Speaker 2>have full confidence in your vision and confidence.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a word right now.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you need it, I'm sure, Like, let me ask

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<v Speaker 2>you this, let me ask not my podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, no, no, this is literally what this podcast is

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<v Speaker 4>teaching class.

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<v Speaker 2>You're teaching class, like you were, like, even when you

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<v Speaker 2>start calling yourself a director, it's something.

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<v Speaker 1>When I just started calling myself When you just.

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<v Speaker 2>Started calling yourself a director? Was it before the Academy

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<v Speaker 2>awarder after? Or like when did.

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<v Speaker 1>That I really fully accepted who I was and what

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<v Speaker 1>my mission in life is? Probably July of twenty twenty two. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was, did you. It's to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>Disney was like, dude, you're going to self deprecate yourself

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<v Speaker 1>out of this award if you keep on telling people

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<v Speaker 1>that you know you like what I mean that All shucks, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was in such a habitual routine of self

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<v Speaker 1>deprecating and and a lot of me why do we

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<v Speaker 1>do that? Because we want to manage the expectations of

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<v Speaker 1>people around us. You know, I'm thinking about if the

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<v Speaker 1>roots think I'm a nut or like, man, are they

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<v Speaker 1>talking behind my talking shit behind my back? Where my

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<v Speaker 1>friends think, well, these guys.

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<v Speaker 7>Think, what do your director friends think about you stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, for the longest, like I would go to

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks games, and you know, I was like, ah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Spike's not gonna you know. I went to this event

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<v Speaker 1>and if you remember his partner, Ernest Dickerson, who used

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<v Speaker 1>to juice right, shoot shoot stuff, Ernest came up to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, brother, I've watched your movie five times.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so emotional, so incredible, and I saw Spike's

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<v Speaker 1>ears prick up, and I realized, oh, okay, Spike didn't

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<v Speaker 1>watch the movie yet, which I actually understand. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>very popular, prominent MC who I refused to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>out of professional jealousy. No, but it's it's like that sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>like why you know, because sometimes you might internalize your

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<v Speaker 1>own failure based on someone else's success, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would feel some sort of way like a man

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<v Speaker 1>like or get it over analytical, and I didn't like,

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<v Speaker 1>music is too precious for me to even want to

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<v Speaker 1>like be that disparaging to someone else. But I found

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<v Speaker 1>myself having these professional jealous feelings to this particular person,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just refused to acknowledge their music and

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<v Speaker 1>unless I had to DJ it in the nightclub, and

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<v Speaker 1>I realized I was like, Okay, who is this person?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna go okay, fine, but I noticed. I

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<v Speaker 1>did notice though that in a week, based on the

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<v Speaker 1>energy that Ernest Dickerson brought me at this particular thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Spike finally hit me with a text like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked your movie. It was great, And then

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<v Speaker 1>he started talking. But in my mind I was also like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Spike ava all the going to look at me like

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<v Speaker 1>he think he's doing right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But did it switch for you when you could call

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<v Speaker 2>yourself a director? Do you show up differently after you

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<v Speaker 2>have the after you say to yourself, oh, man, I

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<v Speaker 2>am a director.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the second you have that high of a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>And what you have to realize is the Oscar is

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<v Speaker 1>the last stop on that journey. Like I've been spending

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<v Speaker 1>an entire year going to the awards ceremony, wards ceremony,

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<v Speaker 1>local ceremony, that film festival. Then I sun danced all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, and then after like like we were sweeping everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like the Thriller days. Like after the thirteenth Award.

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<v Speaker 1>I even asked Disney like, yo, like can we just stop?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you pull us out the thing? Because After about

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<v Speaker 1>a month of this, then suddenly I've noticed like people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sort of like here he comes to still

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas again, like that sort of thing. And I use

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<v Speaker 1>that and as an excuse to like again start self

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<v Speaker 1>deprecating and all that stuff. And then it started affecting

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<v Speaker 1>my personal life, Like I year with everyone like food

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<v Speaker 1>was my that was my cocaine. So my level binge

0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:08.040
<v Speaker 1>eating was getting very dangerous, very you know. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>hard to handle because I didn't want to pivot. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to grow up and get into my new life,

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<v Speaker 1>like part of me still wants to hang on to music.

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<v Speaker 1>I've yet to release the record that will let us

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<v Speaker 1>in Madison Square Garden, and I know I can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's our seventeenth rect week. And so even after the Oscar. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had, like, you know, two weeks after the Oscar,

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<v Speaker 1>I've probably had like four to five panic attacks. I

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<v Speaker 1>went to Mexico just to sit alone and whatnot. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I will say that probably around July. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>book by a gentleman named Jose Silva called The Silver Method,

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<v Speaker 1>and he teaches you how to talk to yourself, how

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<v Speaker 1>to advocate for yourself, how you know that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'll stay around Like August, that's when I

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<v Speaker 1>really started taking and owning what my purpose in life

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<v Speaker 1>is and that sort of thing and not being like

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to.

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<v Speaker 7>But are you calling yourself a director?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yah, yeah, I just wonder like once you by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I didn't know you went through all that.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't know you went through all of that. But

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<v Speaker 7>like how you say, like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't call yourself comedian or you don't call your self director,

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<v Speaker 2>like once you kind of own it. I just wonder

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<v Speaker 2>if you could lean into it more, like if you

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<v Speaker 2>can really fully.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm also leaningto like twelve other things, like this

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<v Speaker 1>week too much. This thing is now like oh I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a children's book author, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like each week is like a new challenge.

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<v Speaker 5>So and we're born on the same day. So I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just looking over here laughing because I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>You, we're all born in the same month.

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<v Speaker 5>So we responded, I'm going a quariers, oh January.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I'm December twenty.

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<v Speaker 5>Y'all got it, y'all you got your head on your

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<v Speaker 5>shoulders were over here when it's Quarius.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, what are you saying, Steve.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm just thinking about your conversation here and about what

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<v Speaker 8>you said about sort of accepting that you're just a

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<v Speaker 8>great storyteller this.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I feel like, you know, in the long

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<v Speaker 6>it took me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm fifty two, it's the one thing I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I could talk to young me.

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<v Speaker 7>But they were like, so I could tell myself a

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<v Speaker 7>different narrative is super?

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<v Speaker 2>You know how much work I could I would have

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<v Speaker 2>done if I told myself that earlier in life.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but it doesn't work that way.

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<v Speaker 7>That's true. You have to build up to it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Like I was going to say, like when you

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<v Speaker 8>start off, it's faked till you make it, and then

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<v Speaker 8>when you make it, it becomes imposter syndrome for a long time,

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<v Speaker 8>and then there's this acceptance of like, oh shit, I

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<v Speaker 8>can do this stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know? And is that our age is that

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<v Speaker 6>when this happens question.

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<v Speaker 7>I think for different people different times.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always fascinated when I see a young talent, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five thirty year old talent and they seem to just

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<v Speaker 2>have this confidence. So this that might be to fake

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<v Speaker 2>it no, No, I think of like a young Rihanna

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<v Speaker 2>going around thinking this girl believes I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean she is a unicorn, yes, But I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 2>there are people that at a young age, for some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>tap into a confidence about who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>She has something because she walked up to me once.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never spoken to well, I spoke to Rihanna first

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<v Speaker 1>before I spoke to Grace Jones. An, Wait, aren't they

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<v Speaker 1>from the same island? There are they?

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<v Speaker 5>Jamaica, Jamaican, She's from Trinidad, Barbado, Barbados.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, hey, Bill, when we need them right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So when she first walked up to me, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a young Grace Jones and she comes up to

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<v Speaker 1>me like you and I look like, oh ship, Rihanna

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<v Speaker 1>does know who I am. And she's like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to work with you, like and she she just had

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<v Speaker 1>this very.

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<v Speaker 7>Commanding the short hair, short hair Rihanna.

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<v Speaker 1>She was in Kanye's video for one of those songs

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<v Speaker 1>on Ato Eight's and Heartbreak where she's behind in the car. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I forget what it was, but like that's when def

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<v Speaker 1>Jam was like throwing video release parties for just videos

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And so good times. I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>are the eye of the storm of what many were

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<v Speaker 1>probably deemed the celebratory period of hip hop, which I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like between ninety seven and two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 1>where like every hype Whims video, the rise of the Rock,

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<v Speaker 1>like the ROC like you're the trusted like you're almost

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<v Speaker 1>like Switzerland. You are the trusted epicenter of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these artists. And I'm well, first of all, I'm curious,

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<v Speaker 1>like what was your entry into communication as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, just throw that young girl in here. She's the

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<v Speaker 2>only one here who really knows anything about hip hop,

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<v Speaker 2>and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Just jump in the pool looking at you again.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm working out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seventeen eighteen working at a station, a radio station,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was I was a mess with my mother.

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:08.919
<v Speaker 2>I got, you know, getting kicked out of school, and

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:10.240
<v Speaker 2>my mother was in radio.

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<v Speaker 7>She got me an internship. I was interning.

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<v Speaker 1>Your mom used to be on radio.

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<v Speaker 7>She wasn't on the air. She she did say she

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<v Speaker 7>used to do. She worked in the sales department.

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:21.880
<v Speaker 2>And when like this, when red Alert was like KISSFM

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:26.160
<v Speaker 2>read alert, you know, like kiss cards and like legendary

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Red Alert, young red. My mother was like a sales

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 2>rep there. Then she worked then she wounded up becoming

0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 2>a music director and program director at CD one to

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:34.520
<v Speaker 2>one point nine and stuff like that.

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 1>So she was in for a long time. So I

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 1>got an internship.

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 7>I was eighteen, So it was a dance station.

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<v Speaker 2>When I first got there, there was no commercial hip

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:41.680
<v Speaker 2>hop radio station.

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<v Speaker 1>So the place that was Hot ninety seven was.

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<v Speaker 7>For dance station.

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<v Speaker 2>I was you know, they play like you know, C

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<v Speaker 2>and C Music Factory kind of, you know, like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and so, but I was a hip hop head like

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:54.639
<v Speaker 2>and so when they when they were slowly transitioning, I

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 2>would get asked a lot of questions because I was

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 2>the kid who knew. I was like a nerd, like

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:00.920
<v Speaker 2>a hip hop nerd, and so I was in the

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.439
<v Speaker 2>right place at the right time. Then they brought Flex

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<v Speaker 2>in as going to be the head of this when

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 2>they decided to go hip hop, and then I had

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:10.160
<v Speaker 2>so I learned. I was running the boards for him.

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.399
<v Speaker 2>I was doing everything, getting coffee, doing everything. And then

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 2>they were like.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, in my mind, like what the idea of hit

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 1>ninety seven was like always here, So you're saying that

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 7>There was seven. It was it was dance music.

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 2>It was no There was no commercial hip hop radio

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 2>station in existence in New York City.

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 7>Just a show, maybe hip or not.

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 2>You would have to listen to Kiss or b LS

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 2>on the weekends, like you would have to listen to

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:37.439
<v Speaker 2>Red Alert Moll mister Magic. You have to listen on

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 2>the weekends and tape you couldn't. There was no There

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:41.880
<v Speaker 2>was no twenty four hour day hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying like ninety three ninety four is when this

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:45.440
<v Speaker 1>starts happening or ninety two.

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Ninety so bad this years? Well, you were eighteen, so yeah,

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:50.720
<v Speaker 2>I was eighteen. So you do the math and.

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<v Speaker 7>Y'all are setting like standard for the whole country.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, when you're in it and you're

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:57.400
<v Speaker 2>creating something and that in your babies, you're just doing

0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 2>it because you love it. There's no understanding of what

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 2>this could be, what it would evolve into, what it

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 2>could grow into. Even when I started doing interviews, there

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 2>was no understanding of one day these interviews could matter

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:08.919
<v Speaker 2>to somebody, or we could grow into something. It was

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 2>just like, oh my god, I love this Wool Tang album.

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe they're here. And then having these these conversations,

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 2>and this is what I miss about those times?

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:16.879
<v Speaker 7>Is there right now?

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel like everything is very agenda driven because people

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of have the codes and they know what works,

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and they know what you have to do to get results,

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 2>and you and people understand the business of it.

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.680
<v Speaker 7>There was no business of it. We really were operating under.

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:30.439
<v Speaker 2>There was just hard The people were operating under a

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 2>love for the music, for the culture. For we weren't

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 2>even calling it the culture then we did. We weren't

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 2>even organized enough to call it that. We we just

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:43.400
<v Speaker 2>were operating on sheer like love and connection.

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 5>And this is such a beautiful circle back because we

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 5>just talked at least the Cortez earlier, and I feel

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 5>like y'all both hit the scene around the same well

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 5>but still, I mean, ninety seven was the first, and

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 5>so it's the.

0:25:54.800 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Same thing the same time without hot ninety seven. How

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:05.119
<v Speaker 1>old were you when you How do you become a

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>radio personality? Did they put you on like four in

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the morning? First?

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was doing everything. I was running the boards.

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.119
<v Speaker 2>I used to run the boards for flex. I was

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.879
<v Speaker 2>like I was just I was pushing the buttons and

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 2>running the boards. And I was nice with the you know,

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 2>back then you just have to edit on the real reels.

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean nice with that and the tape, I'd have

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 2>cuts on my fingers.

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Nothing sexier than a female engineer. Yeah. The amount

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 1>of times where.

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Yo, when I tell you I was nice, I could

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 2>make somebody say something they didn't mean to say with

0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 2>the white marker.

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 7>And the raised blades and the I was nice.

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I saw the first time I met h Mecca of

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.879
<v Speaker 1>Diggable Planets, she was like, this is why when they

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 1>were recording a blowout come and she was like the tape,

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what the hell? I'm in love also, but.

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 7>What the hell?

0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 2>So I'm there, I'm this young girl who's a hip

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 2>hop nerve who knows everything. And then I can also

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 2>run the boards and be on the radio. And then

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 2>they brought flexing. I'm running his boards so that it

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 2>was like this put this girl on overnights and just

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 2>gives see what she got.

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>But don't you have to have the gift of gab

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and know how I had no.

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Gift to gab. No, no, I had no gift to gap.

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I learned gift a gab throughout the process of of

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 2>being on the radio, that I was god awful at

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 2>least two years of being terrible on the radio. For sure,

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Like if I went back and here tapes, I will

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 2>be mortified right now. And then over the years they

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 2>weren't always great. I really had the I had the

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 2>privilege of like learning how to be on the air

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.199
<v Speaker 2>while I was on the air. What I did have

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 2>going for me. The one thing I will say though,

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 2>is that from the beginning, my intention was always good,

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 2>and I think that that carried me because people wanted

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:47.719
<v Speaker 2>me to you know, people wanted me to win.

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 7>The reported me.

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:52.640
<v Speaker 2>You had a cheer for me, and so that that

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 2>that carried me for a while until I learned actually

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:56.640
<v Speaker 2>how to do how to.

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Do that right.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, we happened to have one of your tapes from your.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, wait, do you so I know, like

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>when you first were on the radio, would you like

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>afford yourself.

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Over over modulating smiling?

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember you like, who was the first person

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 1>you interviewed? I don't.

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 2>People have asked me that, and I don't remember for

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 2>some reason in my mind, and I know it wasn't them,

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.439
<v Speaker 2>because time wise, it was like group home or someone

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 2>like that. It was like, I don't know that for

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 2>sure it was them, but those were the early interviews

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:35.479
<v Speaker 2>that I remember at that time.

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>So when do you feel like you arrived when in

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>my bag? Like when they when they first all right,

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>can y'all explain to me? I know there's always a

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>morning show? And then I've learned that most in my

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>radio experiences of meeting people, I've met more midday mommies

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>than it's their formula.

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 7>They think they have a formula.

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Right, but it's always like you know, if you.

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Ask Salon Remy Salon REMI will tell you because he

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:05.959
<v Speaker 2>always says this, and I'm like Salom stops saying that

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Salam thinks that every like hip hop ratio station across

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 2>the country hired a Latin.

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 7>Girl because because of my success on.

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Hot like well, that was like they placed the Angiebartinas

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 2>that like He's like.

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 7>I'm going around the country, I'm seeing the place.

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>It's around ninety nine. Like literally, I've met more midday

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>mommies after your arrival that I didn't see the first

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 1>rounds of us having the travel radio stations, so.

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 7>I didn't realize their way. So but she wasn't the

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 7>first mid day one man.

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 5>But just that's how you feel because it's the era

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 5>in the time, because I.

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 7>Think that's radio. People swear that's a whole formula.

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 5>We put the woman I've never heard of man.

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>But I.

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 7>Did nights, which honestly is like a you know, for a.

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Girl, that's the prime spot.

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 7>They don't put women in the nights though.

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 2>It depends what you call a prime spot if you're

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 2>a radio person and you're selling ads morning show and

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 2>afternoon drive or the prime spot before a young girl

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 2>who's in the clubs and in the streets and it's

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 2>going to artists listening sessions.

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 7>You know.

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Night times is when in New York at that time

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>was it was popping, like it was popping.

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 7>So that's why I started. I started doing nights and

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 7>then and.

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 5>It's right before the shows, right, so then you also

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 5>got the guests because people don't realize night show n

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 5>ten o'clock, so folks was coming on your show because

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 5>it's like it's hit Angie before the show.

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 7>And then over the years, then they moved me to

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 7>afternoon Drive.

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Who do you feel is your most important interview during

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that time? Like I remember like a lot of your

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>jay Z interviews.

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jay was great for me in my career because

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 2>he gave me an opportunity to kind of like have

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 2>different types of conversations.

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>That he wouldn't have with anyone else.

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 2>He was just always so smart and he always had

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 2>such like I don't know, he just always wanted to

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>elevate the conversation.

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 7>So and he trusted me. So he wasn't doing a

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 7>lot of interviews all of it.

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:54.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there wasn't a lot of places to go

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 2>for interviews, especially back then. I probably think I probably

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 2>in New York, I had to have done this first one.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 2>I would imagine, I don't want to say that's wrong.

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was stretching Bob. Probably stretching definitely stretching Bob,

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 2>stretching Bob.

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 2>But we did a lot of them earlier on and

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 2>so those were some of my favorites at the beginning.

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 2>But honestly, it's hard to say, you know that, It's like,

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 2>what's your favorite show?

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 7>Do you have a favorite show? Like you can't say that, yeah,

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 7>you can for this show.

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like even though Jimmy Jammin.

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean like a roots show, no, oh no,

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>definitely really do you have a favorite roots song?

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 7>Right?

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Exactly?

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 7>I mean exactly.

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know my favorite until I get it.

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't say it.

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 5>Joe, I got a question, And have you ever worked

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 5>at another radio station besides Power?

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, when I was sixteen and I was getting I

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 2>got kicked out of my high school, I got kicked

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 2>out of John Doing in Brooklyn. No, No, I'm sorry, Yes,

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 2>I got I was getting kicked out of John Doing Brooklyn.

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I was sixteen.

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 7>My mother sent me to Florida to live with my aunt.

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>For two years from sixteen. Wait was it that bad?

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh? No, I didn't go to school like a juvenile

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.239
<v Speaker 2>delinquent or yeah I was.

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 7>My mother was a single mom. She was she worked late.

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 7>She I just was free.

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 2>I was a latch key kid. I did whatever I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do, like you know everybody on the block.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, What was young Angie Martinez like?

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<v Speaker 7>She was?

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<v Speaker 2>She thought, I don't she had no really understanding. She

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 2>loved hip hop music. All I would literally watch like

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Beach Street. I was like, I would see the whole

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 2>watch Beach Street and Wild Style and all those movies,

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<v Speaker 2>and and I would I would tape red Alert on

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the weekends, and then I'd spend all week listening to

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 2>the songs so I could memorize them and all the lyrics.

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<v Speaker 1>I was chuck wearing like oh yeah, I was it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, like lee belts and you know what I mean,

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 2>pants and belts and name belts and bamboo earrings and

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 2>all those things. And then my mom was working and

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, are you start hanging out, you're playing handball,

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 2>you're drinking for all English.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're doing this interview, so asked backwards. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>let me start. We're born, weren't I don't get there. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was literally like we normally.

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<v Speaker 7>Still over the place here, I mean you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what tho, No, no, but like normally yes, we

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>started the beginning and then work our way up.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, there's a formula.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right. What was your home life? Do you have siblings?

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<v Speaker 7>Single mom?

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<v Speaker 1>What burrow?

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<v Speaker 5>My?

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<v Speaker 2>Most of my family is from Washington Heights in the Bronx.

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<v Speaker 2>And then my mom was that she was that single

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 2>mom that was like trying to change her life and

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 2>it's going to self help and reading a lot. And

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm your horring ako, and you know she's My mother.

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Was always this episode right now.

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<v Speaker 2>She was always trying to do better. Her dad was,

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:47.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, battling alcoholism, and it was challenging for her

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of ways growing up, and she tried

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 2>to get out. So, so my whole family's uptown in

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 2>the Bronx. My mother took me. The two of us

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 2>went all the way to the other side of Brooklyn,

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 2>which is like a two hour train ride. So my

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 2>whole family's uptown. Me and my mom is on the

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 2>last stop by Corney Island in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really, Yeah.

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:08.879
<v Speaker 2>So we're out there and we're in the little one

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 2>bedroom apartment, me and her. My mother was so dope.

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 2>We had a one bedroom apartment. She let me have

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 2>the bedroom and she.

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 7>Would sleep in the living room and like this couch,

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:18.720
<v Speaker 7>just like this terrible green couch.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been there lately? Yeah, so you've seen the gentrification, like.

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 7>Oh, yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy.

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's even like luxury motels something.

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Even, by the way, I told you my family's from

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Heights. Even Washington Heights, it's a whole difference. They

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 2>changed that too, one hundred percent different from when I

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 2>grew up.

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for New York.

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy, so different. So yeah, but you know what,

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 2>my block wasn't bad, it was very I love that

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:49.319
<v Speaker 2>I grew up in a building where my next door

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 2>neighbor was from Trinidad, mother with two daughters over here,

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:58.240
<v Speaker 2>this Asian family, Korean family, so Russian family across a

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>super diverse building. And I think that it really create

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 2>created who I am. You know what I'm saying, Like,

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.279
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I can talk to anybody. I feel

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 2>like I can people feel it from you. Yeah, I

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 2>feel like I understand all different types of people. And

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 2>my neighborhood really had a lot to do with that.

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.839
<v Speaker 2>How I grew up in that in that building in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so I got I gotta get so Latin

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 1>coret is an extreme no no, no no, But did you

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>have earlier expansiones in like New York night life?

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<v Speaker 2>My first club was roseland Biz Marcky was performing. The

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 2>first that I went to a club, I was fifteen.

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 2>I snuck in with a fake ID. There was a

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 2>shootout inside the club the night I went first night

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 2>in the club. The crazy thing about it is that

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 2>after the shooting, everybody got back to partying, like the

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.800
<v Speaker 2>club wasn't closed.

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I will ask you. I will ask you like I

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 1>ask everyone else like and maybe this is me like

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>again like living and fear and safety or whatever, But

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>why would you go to a spot where the likelihood

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:15.320
<v Speaker 1>of something about the pop off would happen wouldn't deterry you?

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>It all like okay, oh yeah.

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Sure as a sensible adult, but as a fifteen year

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 2>old who can't believe that business marketing, it's in like

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 2>the touch, like distance, like he's right there and he's

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.919
<v Speaker 2>performing in the DJ and the scene and I can't

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 2>believe I'm in a club and the music is crazy.

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 7>I just was happy to be like I was. It was.

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:37.439
<v Speaker 7>It's crazy I hit the clubs when you were under age.

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't until I got older and I actually started

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:42.359
<v Speaker 2>getting to like a fear. It's crazy because my whole

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 2>career I had to go to clubs.

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, you, but I have to go

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:46.399
<v Speaker 1>to the tunnel.

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:47.760
<v Speaker 7>But I, oh, it was at the tunnel regularly.

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 1>What was the tunnel? Even though we I think we

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 1>performed at the at the end of like the era

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>of the tunnel. They finally like when the roots get

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>invited to the tunnel, then you know, it's over. There

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>was always it was like the roots in Eminem. Oh

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 1>wow wow, back when Eminem was exactly.

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:07.760
<v Speaker 7>You were never like in the trenches of the tunnel

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 7>at the Big.

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>No Not Shook Ones era, this.

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:11.800
<v Speaker 7>Urban legend of tunnel.

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I definitely saw mob deep and all those were my favorite,

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 2>like boot Camp, the tunnel was like all of those

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:18.760
<v Speaker 2>were crazy.

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Like Flex started being nice to us like ninety nine before.

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.359
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, I don't know if I feel him yet.

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, it sounds like Flex, right, I don't know

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 1>if I feel him yet. But you know, when he

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>wanted us to do the tunnel and I was scared,

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, we don't want to do the tunnel,

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 1>like we no, And it actually wound up being.

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:39.439
<v Speaker 2>The crazy thing is Flex was when I think about

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 2>him now, I was so in awe of how he

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 2>seemed to be like one of those people that we

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 2>were talking about, that he had this confidence about what

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 2>he was doing. He came there, he was like, we're

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:49.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna make this station, We're gonna get this is what

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna do.

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>He'd be in the.

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Tunnel, he like, I don't know, he just had this.

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:55.760
<v Speaker 2>He made merch, he made fun.

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 7>Flex jackets, and we all wore the leather jackets when.

0:37:58.360 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 2>We went by the way, we would go to the

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 2>in matching nothing but flavor folk Master flex jackets. And

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was I wasn't. I was so in

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.800
<v Speaker 2>awe that he even had this type of vision and confidence.

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 2>And I always, you know, I always felt a little unsafe,

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:14.760
<v Speaker 2>but not enough that I would want.

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>To leave, like what would have happened, what was a

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 1>typical night at the say Latin Quarter at the tunnel

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 1>at the.

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.919
<v Speaker 2>Tunnel, well for me already, because I was already running

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 2>around with flex so I was I'd be by.

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 7>The booth or I'd be like, you have the safety

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 7>of the booth.

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Somewhat, yeah, somewhat, because I did start to develop over

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 2>the years, I did start to develop a little bit

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 2>of phobia of crowds. I started to feel a little

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 2>like I would get a little anxiety when I when

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't move and I would get stuff.

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 7>And so that became a thing for me.

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>So save an unknown ill out scratch is waiting like

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm certain that when you're going in and out of

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 1>hot ninety seven happened to me, like you know, you

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>can you can feel in your peripheral that like, yeah,

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 1>five people over there waiting like for the moment to

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 1>double dutch their way to like, yo, here's our new

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>joint whatever, like have you.

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 7>Had most of the time.

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>And I've really been lucky in the streets of New York,

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Like and I used to run around by myself, like

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.720
<v Speaker 2>and even when I was young and like going to spots,

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I had no business by myself pulling up in the

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:14.799
<v Speaker 2>car by like.

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I willinez of course.

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 2>And I had this like I don't know, I had

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 2>this like false sense of security in this city. And honestly,

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 2>people made me feel that way.

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:24.839
<v Speaker 1>They made me feel that way.

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:25.720
<v Speaker 7>Like one time I got.

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 2>My car stolen. My car was stolen. I got on

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.399
<v Speaker 2>the radio and I was like, Yo, somebody stole my car.

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:30.880
<v Speaker 1>You know that.

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:33.399
<v Speaker 7>Somebody called the radio station was like, ang, we got you.

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 7>I know what it is.

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 2>It'll be downstairs by the time you get out of work.

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 2>And they returned my stolen car. This is how the

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 2>city made me feel, like treated me like, I don't know,

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 2>that's a that's beautiful. That's beautiful. Isn't that amazing? So

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I would walk around the streets and I felt a

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 2>sense of like love. Yeah, I would feel love. I'm

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 2>not stupid, like I wouldn't put myself in bad situations.

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 2>But I did feel maybe a little bit of a

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 2>full beautiful always like safe, and.

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't it's amazing because I don't know if I

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 1>would admit that my car, like because I don't want

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the world to know, like, oh, you can easily get

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>got quest love like that sort of thing. But but.

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 2>What are you talking about. Anybody in the planet could

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 2>get your car to get stolen. I don't think they

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>stole the car because they.

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 7>Knew it was mine. It was just randomly stolen.

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying Varner Building they liked that, where

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>like nah, like fuck it, I'm not gonna let nobody

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 1>know I got got that sort of thing.

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I had a couple of times I would leave

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 2>this and where the way High nine seven used to be.

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 2>It was like in the garment district. It was dark

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 2>over there. It was like nobody was there at night,

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 2>and I would leave by myself. I'd be like, it

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 2>wasn't no security, it was just me. I'd get on

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 2>the train two am, take the train like I was

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I was crazy.

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Like oh yes, Andrew Martinez.

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 7>You know, yes, absolutely.

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 5>That's why I asked you earlier about like that being

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:52.959
<v Speaker 5>your only station, because that kind of love is hard

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 5>to leave, right. And I know people tried to get

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 5>you because you you had the mold, you had the

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 5>model of what to do. I know people tried to

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:02.320
<v Speaker 5>get you to come to other cities many and many

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.439
<v Speaker 5>and many a times. But like, I don't know, you've

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:07.919
<v Speaker 5>never gotten going really from other stations.

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 2>I have to think about it. But nothing that like

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 2>out the gate. I mean when Power first came in,

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 2>there was definitely feelers out for me at the beginning

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 2>of that.

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:17.359
<v Speaker 5>Not even the beat in l A like I just

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 5>imagine like LA call like such a New York girl's

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying.

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even want to be syndicated because I didn't

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 2>want to have to like compromise.

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 1>At what point were you guys being syndicated?

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 7>No, I didn't. When people would say, are you interested

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 7>in that?

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't like what Time Joiner does.

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.479
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I wasn't interested because I know what that means.

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 2>It's this you have to kind of chair more localization,

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 2>you have to Yeah, And I just wasn't.

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 7>I was like Yeah, I'm good.

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm amazing. You see that as an opportunity, not for me,

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>because I got to change who I am.

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 7>And that's no judgment.

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Some people can do it, Like if you look at

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 2>the Breakfast Club does if they were only on in

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 2>New York, they'd be the same show that they are

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 2>all the way. But how I and how I deliver

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I think works for New York.

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying, all right, who who were those two

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the two guys that were on Hot ninety seven that

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>were like they were the originals? Yes, I was the

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 1>original Jesus and Mirror. Right, So you're saying to me

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 1>that as a New Yorker, you could have been like

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 1>crazy or whatever your personality was, But if you're syndicated,

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>then you really have to dial that back.

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 2>And also I didn't have that crazy. I was never

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 2>the Hey. First of all, I didn't do a lot

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.399
<v Speaker 2>of gossip. I didn't do I wasn't a shock jock.

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't I didn't have this crazy, over the top personality.

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 2>What I had was a knowledge in my city, an

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 2>authentic perspective about the music. People trusted me, and people

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.840
<v Speaker 2>feel like they know me, And I felt like I

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 2>just didn't want to compromise any of that I wanted to.

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.279
<v Speaker 7>I didn't want to. I didn't want to shift that

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 7>to like do a radio show that was like, oh,

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 7>you know, you got to talk to the.

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Specifically to New York anymore the other opportunities. And then

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 2>once the internet opened up, then why would I ever

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:13.840
<v Speaker 2>do that when people could watch my interviews on YouTube

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 2>and I could do it the way I do it without.

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 7>Having to kind of compromise.

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Was there ever pressure at any point, or in a

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>professional or even in a toxic way to.

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:27.760
<v Speaker 6>Do more?

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>That's something out of your zone all the time.

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know how all the time and every

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 2>turn sometimes. I mean, I'm sure there were points in

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 2>my life or my career where you try because you

0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 2>want to win, and you try to figure out a

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.839
<v Speaker 2>way you could do a certain thing, especially when people

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:45.279
<v Speaker 2>start looking at numbers.

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 7>And all that stuff. But I don't think at any.

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:48.919
<v Speaker 1>Point are you numbers good?

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:51.240
<v Speaker 7>I mean most of the time, not always.

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I all know you are, so I would tell you something.

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Though my whole career, people would tell me, oh, you're

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.439
<v Speaker 2>the number one, or you have this many. I never

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 2>look at ratings. I don't look at numbers. I don't

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:04.759
<v Speaker 2>look at ratings because I never wanted it to make

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I didn't want it to affect how I

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 2>show up right.

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, But they let you They let you know that

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 1>well for ignorance.

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 2>No, they were if we were in trouble, they'd say, hey,

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 2>maybe we need to tighten up on this, and I say, okay, well,

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 2>but the up and down of radio ratings is so

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 2>crazy that I didn't I never wanted to, like fall

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 2>victim to like watching that, and then also FLEX watched

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 2>it so hard I felt like I didn't have to.

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I was going to lead back to him. I'm

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 1>not using him specifically as an example, but I guess

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I could use him as an example of which, you know,

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 1>I've heard a few times where people like, yo, man,

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 1>why don't you, you know, give up the keys of

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the kingdom to let someone else younger? And whatever? But

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>is there like how I'm not saying doggy dog? Is

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>it like how often do you have to look in

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the rear view mirror to figure out like.

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 7>Who's on my neck?

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And what is that?

0:44:58.440 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 7>Anybody on your neck?

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Someone new comes in, I have to wonder, like, oh,

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:05.799
<v Speaker 1>do they want my spot or like.

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you get I think probably a younger me was

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more aware of that than me. Now.

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 7>Me now is just like I'm supposed to be where

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 7>I'm supposed to.

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 2>This is no, it's not that I mean I welcome

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm always trying to get them to I don't know.

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 7>I welcome new energy, young energy, like around. So I

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 7>don't know.

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:27.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't really think about that, but I think at

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 2>some points I probably did. But but for short periods

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 2>of time, you can't let yourself. But you know, whenever

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 2>you're looking over there, it just alters your delivery, alters

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:41.320
<v Speaker 2>your state of mind, your old and I always is

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 2>aware of that. So even if I look over there

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 2>for a second, I'm right back here.

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the world that Steve and I belong to,

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 1>which is at thirty Rock University. Yeah, the sign of

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:58.720
<v Speaker 1>uh oh is when as as a not a staff person,

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:01.840
<v Speaker 1>but as a a union guy, like the guy that

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 1>does a camera, a guy that does the light, like

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 1>a crew guy. The sign of oh is when they

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 1>tell you you got to go to the Today Show. So,

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 1>because because of the way that New York has, like

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 1>union rules and all those things, you can't like fire

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.399
<v Speaker 1>someone or as you just put them on the ship job, right,

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you can't. You can't never get fired from like you

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 1>have to do something extreme, like kind of short of murder.

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I hate that, by the way, Well yeah.

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 7>Cool for radiople.

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm right. So when you work at thirty, like if

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:41.319
<v Speaker 1>you get in on my you're golden, and people fight

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>for the job because it's like you dental, like you

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 1>get insurance and all that stuff. I didn't that, so,

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:48.919
<v Speaker 1>but the thing is is that I don't believe that

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 1>what you.

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Know I come from, Like, if you're not if you

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be here, or you're not delivering or

0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:57.600
<v Speaker 2>this is not a good fit, then let's all let's

0:46:57.680 --> 0:46:58.839
<v Speaker 2>keep it moving, right.

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 1>But what I'm saying with him is that the thing

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:04.439
<v Speaker 1>is like you gotta go to the Today Show, which

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 1>means like a damn, I got it. Well, it's because

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 1>they can't fire you. Being on the Today Show is

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:14.879
<v Speaker 1>so inconvenient because now you got to wake up at

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>two in the morning to work at three and all

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. I guess they could do that you quit.

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:23.720
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, they'll put you on Sundays at two am.

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, out the passion that's not.

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Radio though, but if it's over, it's over. Well now,

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean now I'm at iHeart. That's a difference a

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 2>similar type of machine. It's like a big company. So

0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot more rules, and over the.

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Years there's more. So what's the undesirable hour?

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:40.399
<v Speaker 7>Like, what's the undesirable the undesirable hour?

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would imagine it's like overnights, even though I

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:45.760
<v Speaker 2>had a good time doing overnights, but I would imagine

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:46.800
<v Speaker 2>who I don't know, I don't know.

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:48.759
<v Speaker 7>I don't think that's a thing. Now, I don't think

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:49.239
<v Speaker 7>that's a thing.

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So all times are good times.

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 7>And no window is just so different.

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:58.479
<v Speaker 1>It's just so different asking these questions as the person

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 1>that clearly doesn't listen to great like this.

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 7>It's not even like a date. Everybody has a day

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:04.399
<v Speaker 7>part with a rule. Never perse.

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Somebody came to me and they were like, hey, Andrew,

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 2>were thinking maybe you should do Sundays at midnight. Now

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 2>that would be great, right. I'd be like, yeah, no,

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 2>thank you, though this has been good times. We can

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 2>we can easily just we could just go our ways.

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Now that that wouldn't work for me. But luckily I'm

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:19.799
<v Speaker 2>in a position in life where I can do other

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 2>things and and I'd be fine.

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 1>So so for you, what was your wildest like historical

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:35.400
<v Speaker 1>moment that you felt was that Hot ninety seven at

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 1>its peak?

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:39.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh jeez, you just reworded the question I didn't want

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 2>to answer before, which was what was.

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 7>Your favorite What was your biggest interview?

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:47.680
<v Speaker 1>You read?

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:51.920
<v Speaker 7>That's what you're not. That's what an interviewer does. They go,

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 7>they bring it back around if you don't answer it

0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:56.399
<v Speaker 7>the first way. That's what a good interviewer does.

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, I would figure that you would have like one

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:02.720
<v Speaker 1>I caught this freestyle, or I met at Kenchrick Lamar

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>for the first time, or.

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 2>So many But do you have do you have any

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 2>idea that this was my life for so many years

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:11.880
<v Speaker 2>that I did this every day, that every day it

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 2>was highlight And I'm in New York City at a

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 2>point where it's Woo Tang and jay Z.

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:21.560
<v Speaker 7>And Nas and mob Deep and uh you know what

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 7>I mean.

0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Just an endless stream artists every single night, coming every day.

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 1>Assuming that you were at Years Hot, assuming that you

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 1>were at Summer Jam during the Yes takeover period, like

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:38.400
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't weird to see like Michael Jackson just backstage

0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 1>at Hot ninety seven, like, oh.

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that was pretty great. That was pretty great. You

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:45.160
<v Speaker 7>just got a remind her because I see that so much.

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 2>That was that was pretty great. Okay, let me think

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:49.359
<v Speaker 2>a good one for you.

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Want to I want to campfire story. Damn it, damn you.

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm a nerd. You know I love that about you.

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 1>It's good.

0:49:56.640 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, you know there's you know, you

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:02.520
<v Speaker 2>know the Na's battle happened on my show, right? Did

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 2>you know that that we played records and the whole

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 2>city voted and that was the moment when that was

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 2>a huge moment.

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:11.959
<v Speaker 1>So what was that? What? No, this is what the two.

0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Records it was, which I thought was unfair, but it

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:21.279
<v Speaker 2>was really super ugly. Oh okay, it was super ugly

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.239
<v Speaker 2>versus ether and what happened.

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:27.560
<v Speaker 7>Yes, we were Wait wait, do you remember.

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 2>How I was saying earlier, like when there was no competition,

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:31.360
<v Speaker 2>you could do whatever you want. You want to do

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:34.280
<v Speaker 2>a twenty minute talk break. Good, where's everybody gonna where's

0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 2>everybody gonna go? They're not gonna go anywhere you can

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:38.719
<v Speaker 2>talk for twenty minutes. Now competition has come, right, now

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 2>there's two hip hop radio stations in the market, so

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:42.920
<v Speaker 2>now you have to be a little more careful and

0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 2>tighter otherwise you're giving it. So in the middle of

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:48.719
<v Speaker 2>this nas J thing, I don't I'm scared. I don't

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:51.400
<v Speaker 2>want any parts of it. Flex is like, if we

0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:54.320
<v Speaker 2>don't do this here, they're gonna do it down the block.

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:55.960
<v Speaker 7>Do you want that to have?

0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, Flex is a beast, right, So he says,

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna do this. I'm gonna start it on my show.

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 2>We're going to play the two records. People are going

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:06.879
<v Speaker 2>to vote all the way. We finish the voting your

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:08.320
<v Speaker 2>show in the afternoon tomorrow.

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 7>Brilliant, brilliant.

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:12.440
<v Speaker 2>It actually is kind of brilliant. I was resisting it

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:14.000
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't want to get in the middle of

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:16.400
<v Speaker 2>that because it's you know, it's NOTS and it's.

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:17.960
<v Speaker 7>J, and I don't want to. I don't want to

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 7>be in that Switzerland. But you know I was.

0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:24.600
<v Speaker 2>I was kind of thrown in it, and so it

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:27.839
<v Speaker 2>was huge. It was I hadn't nobody could anticipate how big.

0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't.

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Evening we sat there, We sat there, and it was like, honestly,

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of people in the room case

0:51:36.719 --> 0:51:37.719
<v Speaker 2>a rest and peace, God bless.

0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:40.120
<v Speaker 7>He was in the room, The interns were in the room.

0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.600
<v Speaker 2>There was like anybody who was The other DJs were

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:45.919
<v Speaker 2>hanging around because this was just a huge thing.

0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:47.239
<v Speaker 1>So people from the.

0:51:47.160 --> 0:51:50.080
<v Speaker 7>Sales department like were like popping in to see and

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 7>so we're sitting there answer in the in.

0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:55.319
<v Speaker 2>The board ups like with a tally with like one

0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 2>line two like we're doing this the two phones we're

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:00.200
<v Speaker 2>taking votes on.

0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Come on, I mean this story.

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:09.399
<v Speaker 2>I believe one either one. The crazy thing is Ether one.

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 2>And Jay was on his way to the station to

0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:16.920
<v Speaker 2>do an interview with me because coincidentally or just what

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 2>had happened was super ugly.

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:20.960
<v Speaker 7>People didn't like.

0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Super ugly. Why did he go against super ugly and

0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:29.759
<v Speaker 1>not think about the current?

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Got so all this time had passed that the takeover

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:36.200
<v Speaker 2>dropped Ether and then all of a sudden it was

0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 2>super ugly and everybody was like, oh God, which one

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:39.399
<v Speaker 2>of these diss records is better?

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I like the beat to I never liked Yeah, I

0:52:44.320 --> 0:52:47.799
<v Speaker 1>didn't either. Well, it's like I need to like you

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 1>need to dance to And I was like, this is

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 1>one of the things where I got to listen to

0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 1>it and I couldn't humme it now to save my life,

0:52:54.840 --> 0:53:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel you, Yeah, I definitely remember that anyway.

0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:03.160
<v Speaker 2>So as I'm announcing and the winner is, I could

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 2>see my peripheral in the window. I could see Jay

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:10.880
<v Speaker 2>walking in. The winner is Nas, and then Jacks.

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 6>In the room.

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:18.080
<v Speaker 2>As I'm saying it live, I could as I'm saying

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 2>the winner is, and I see j walking in from

0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 2>the peripheral.

0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:25.480
<v Speaker 1>My god, he said, door J. And so it was.

0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 2>I hated the I hated the whole moment. I hated

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:31.520
<v Speaker 2>is so uncomfortable. And then because I felt so uncomfortable,

0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:34.040
<v Speaker 2>then you know, Nas took it wrong that I was

0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:37.000
<v Speaker 2>being so like j.

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:38.319
<v Speaker 1>He was like, well what about me?

0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:42.240
<v Speaker 2>So then there was all this weirdness that happened. Luckily,

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:44.520
<v Speaker 2>after years, you know, all the years later, we all

0:53:44.560 --> 0:53:47.520
<v Speaker 2>are everybody anybody's great and I love to see either

0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:50.120
<v Speaker 2>one of them anywhere, and you know, but in that moment,

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:52.359
<v Speaker 2>it was, you know, when you're in it and you're

0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:54.279
<v Speaker 2>younger and you don't really have a perspective of where

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:55.760
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna land, it all.

0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:59.799
<v Speaker 7>Seems so heavy and serious in the moment. Now, we

0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:02.800
<v Speaker 7>can laughing, is it? But in the moment it felt heavy, man.

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:05.839
<v Speaker 2>Because the streets are listening, the streets are listening, and

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:07.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, oh my god, did.

0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:09.560
<v Speaker 7>I just help ruin Jay's career?

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Did I was I part of this? Is this going

0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 1>to ruin him? Because in the moment, in the moment,

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:18.160
<v Speaker 1>that's the biggest thing in everybody. You don't know in the.

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Moment, you think this could be the death of his career.

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, it sounds ridiculous now, but in the moment,

0:54:24.120 --> 0:54:25.839
<v Speaker 2>you don't know that. And I and it was.

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.880
<v Speaker 7>It was bad from what I recall, I think like

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:31.280
<v Speaker 7>he came on fine, obviously.

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:35.279
<v Speaker 1>But then he come on the air and he apologized. Yeah,

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I was about to say like it was a humbler,

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:41.400
<v Speaker 1>like okay, I've least I'm sorry. And you know, I

0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:42.160
<v Speaker 1>think he got a lot.

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Of calls, including from his mother who said that he

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 2>had crossed the and he so he just wanted to

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 2>be like, yeah, I cross that right there, and is

0:54:48.680 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 2>what it is.

0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 7>And he tried to say his stay.

0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:54.600
<v Speaker 2>It just was an awkward time. His timing was the

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:57.960
<v Speaker 2>whole thing was just nuts, all right. And then I

0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 2>got mad and me after because because he felt it

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:01.720
<v Speaker 2>wasn't fair.

0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:04.160
<v Speaker 7>What do you mean it was a fair you won?

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:08.360
<v Speaker 2>But I understand from his perspective also him sitting home

0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 2>and be like, hey, you should be happier for me,

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Like what's going on here now? In retrospect, I can

0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:17.600
<v Speaker 2>understand his feelings anyway, So you know, it's all growing pains.

0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:18.840
<v Speaker 7>It's all like growing pains.

0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:21.760
<v Speaker 6>Did Flex apologize to you for putting you in that situation?

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:26.040
<v Speaker 7>Well, he was like, this was great. We killed it.

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 7>You killed it, But you know it's history.

0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:31.000
<v Speaker 5>You haven't feel the pressure in that way because you

0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 5>had these beautiful relationships and long lasting relationships that when

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:37.359
<v Speaker 5>you are in your job asking questions, have you had

0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:40.319
<v Speaker 5>a moment where they might look at you like why

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:41.000
<v Speaker 5>are you asking me that?

0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:44.000
<v Speaker 7>You know, like, do you ever have those that kind

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:44.399
<v Speaker 7>of I.

0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Think a younger me, a younger me, a younger because

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:49.359
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I've changed a lot. But I think

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 2>a younger me maybe fell victim to that a couple

0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:53.960
<v Speaker 2>of times where I'd press because I'm like, the audience

0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:56.240
<v Speaker 2>wants to know. I think me as I got older

0:55:56.239 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 2>and I started realizing this really doesn't matter and it's

0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:04.160
<v Speaker 2>not worth it's not worth me a relationship sacrifice even

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:06.160
<v Speaker 2>about the relationship, because it's not about if we don't

0:56:06.200 --> 0:56:08.680
<v Speaker 2>have a relationship, that's fine, but it's not me worth

0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:12.560
<v Speaker 2>me disrespecting somebody or making somebody just putting somebody in

0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:14.920
<v Speaker 2>an awkward spot in my home. Like, I don't like

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 2>not only that moment, but I don't like what it

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:19.560
<v Speaker 2>says to the people listening how we should treat each other.

0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:21.920
<v Speaker 2>And so I think, you know, you know.

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 1>What, I think. I just remembered that. Actually, I think

0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 1>your best interviews were with fifty in which even I

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 1>hate to be this person that's like, but when I

0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:34.480
<v Speaker 1>first heard my first fifty cent interview, I was like,

0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:36.560
<v Speaker 1>oh yo, he's.

0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:38.040
<v Speaker 7>He's the best, the best interview.

0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I hate that. I hate well, I hate he's smart,

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and I hate that when people like you see so

0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:48.680
<v Speaker 1>well whatever. Yeah, but I no.

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, there is a there is a moment

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:53.040
<v Speaker 2>where you realize this is a this is not he's

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:54.200
<v Speaker 2>not just wild.

0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:55.400
<v Speaker 1>He's he's playing a character.

0:56:55.960 --> 0:56:58.960
<v Speaker 2>No, he's brilliant, Yeah, yeah he's and he's a marketer

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:01.839
<v Speaker 2>and he's a marketing kind of genius and he also

0:57:02.560 --> 0:57:05.359
<v Speaker 2>charming and yeah, all of those things. But I will

0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 2>tell you because I didn't always love some of the

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 2>things fifty fifty did, right, So I but I love

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:12.680
<v Speaker 2>that I could have interviews with him and like push

0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:13.439
<v Speaker 2>him a little bit.

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:17.160
<v Speaker 1>And so you're allowed to challenge if you don't if

0:57:17.200 --> 0:57:18.800
<v Speaker 1>he disagreed without.

0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Feeling yeah, I mean, if it's an honest conversation, I'm

0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:23.440
<v Speaker 2>not here to hurt anybody. But if I'm like, hey,

0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:25.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people feel like this, I kind of

0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:26.480
<v Speaker 2>feel like this too, what do you think about that?

0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:28.080
<v Speaker 7>And it's nice to get it be able to have

0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:29.320
<v Speaker 7>an open conversation like that.

0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:30.880
<v Speaker 2>But he has said to me over the years a

0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:32.800
<v Speaker 2>couple of times, He's like, I definitely left your show

0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:35.800
<v Speaker 2>bleeding a few times.

0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I love your show.

0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 7>I was bloody a few times, and I was like,

0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:41.240
<v Speaker 7>oh but please, just let's be friends.

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Though Okay, I never wanted to be feeling hard.

0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 2>That's the beautiful party, you know, great it because I

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:48.480
<v Speaker 2>also had respect for him, so.

0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:52.840
<v Speaker 1>He knows that. So how hard was it to transition

0:57:53.800 --> 0:57:56.720
<v Speaker 1>to being an artist? Oh?

0:57:56.760 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 7>That was tough?

0:57:57.920 --> 0:58:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Really? Like how so speaking of the whole imposter syndrome

0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:02.480
<v Speaker 1>thing or whatever.

0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:04.560
<v Speaker 7>Like, yeah, we talked about that was the prime of

0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:04.960
<v Speaker 7>it for me.

0:58:05.560 --> 0:58:07.280
<v Speaker 1>So how did you get talked into?

0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:07.840
<v Speaker 5>Like?

0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Where is this idea? Come up? Does electric come to you?

0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:10.640
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:11.800
<v Speaker 7>No, no. I'm at a club.

0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm hosting a party as the host and I'm talking

0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:16.240
<v Speaker 2>on the mic and doing a look you know one

0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:19.160
<v Speaker 2>two one two and karas One is there and Karras

0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:20.640
<v Speaker 2>One comes up to me after the party and.

0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Says, right, you're what I got next?

0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:24.720
<v Speaker 7>And he said, have you ever been on a record?

0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:26.360
<v Speaker 1>And you should? You know you got? You got in

0:58:26.440 --> 0:58:26.760
<v Speaker 1>the mic?

0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:28.480
<v Speaker 7>You sound good. I bet you could kill it. I

0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:29.240
<v Speaker 7>was like, now you're crazy.

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:30.600
<v Speaker 2>First of all, it is Karas One. He's one of

0:58:30.600 --> 0:58:33.600
<v Speaker 2>my role models. And then he invites me to the

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 2>studio and I do Heartbeat and we do Heartbeat with Redman.

0:58:36.320 --> 0:58:36.680
<v Speaker 7>So I'm in.

0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:40.120
<v Speaker 2>So it's imagine. It's like you're I always say like,

0:58:40.160 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 2>imagine you're like a little league baseball player. And Derek

0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Jeter says, come on down and hit a few balls

0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:49.840
<v Speaker 2>with us at Yankee Stadium and You're like, fuck, So

0:58:49.880 --> 0:58:52.320
<v Speaker 2>you this was me. I'm in the studio with Karas

0:58:52.320 --> 0:58:56.040
<v Speaker 2>One and Redman and we do this song and then

0:58:56.080 --> 0:58:58.040
<v Speaker 2>from there it was like a roller coaster. Then Ladies

0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Night happened, and then the labels start called, and I'm like,

0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:01.720
<v Speaker 2>what do you mean you want.

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:04.680
<v Speaker 1>To do a whole album? This is lazy. I have

0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:05.800
<v Speaker 1>for them things?

0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, because them things, And if I could go,

0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:11.280
<v Speaker 2>and all those records were from the album that came

0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 2>because I did the Kerason and then the Ladies names

0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:14.720
<v Speaker 2>and they came up.

0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:15.520
<v Speaker 7>Was just single because that.

0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 2>And also if I could go, which more people would

0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:21.800
<v Speaker 2>know if it wasn't stuck in streaming hiding away.

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:23.680
<v Speaker 1>From it, was like I can't we can't find it.

0:59:23.840 --> 0:59:24.040
<v Speaker 5>I know.

0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:27.560
<v Speaker 7>We just literally about a week ago finally got it cleared.

0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:28.240
<v Speaker 7>It'll go out.

0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 2>More, it'll go a little stream soon. We just literally

0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:35.439
<v Speaker 2>like a week ago, just finally clear.

0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:37.520
<v Speaker 7>You gotta do a whole marketing blitz for that now,

0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:43.200
<v Speaker 7>like you gotta know no come, I still oh my god,

0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:44.000
<v Speaker 7>please no.

0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:46.280
<v Speaker 5>No.

0:59:46.360 --> 0:59:52.760
<v Speaker 1>My not tune set is. It's so funny, it's so weird.

0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:54.240
<v Speaker 1>It's such a weird thing for me.

0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:57.400
<v Speaker 4>Did that give you I was gonna ask that being ours?

0:59:57.440 --> 1:00:00.000
<v Speaker 4>Did it give you a new respect for artists?

1:00:00.160 --> 1:00:00.240
<v Speaker 1>This?

1:00:00.400 --> 1:00:00.760
<v Speaker 7>I told you.

1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like a rap nerd, like I would recite

1:00:03.160 --> 1:00:06.520
<v Speaker 2>lyrics were for I could like recite like rock sand

1:00:06.640 --> 1:00:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Chantey lyrics, MC light lyrics not just them ll cool

1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:14.960
<v Speaker 2>J lyrics to the t. And so when that happened, Uh,

1:00:15.080 --> 1:00:17.640
<v Speaker 2>it was so much fun. It was like, oh shoot,

1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I love this, like I really loved it. But then

1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:21.880
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of criticism because people knew me

1:00:21.880 --> 1:00:24.680
<v Speaker 2>from the radio, and I think I let that get

1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:26.680
<v Speaker 2>in my head and it made me scared.

1:00:27.480 --> 1:00:28.880
<v Speaker 1>And so because a conflict.

1:00:30.120 --> 1:00:31.160
<v Speaker 7>No, no, no, just like.

1:00:31.120 --> 1:00:33.720
<v Speaker 2>Who do you think like imposta syndrome? Why do you

1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:35.200
<v Speaker 2>think you should be allowed to do that?

1:00:35.560 --> 1:00:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Are you allowed to spend your own records?

1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:41.240
<v Speaker 7>I didn't, I know, I didn't. I mean you could.

1:00:41.320 --> 1:00:43.520
<v Speaker 7>I guess I could. I mean lots of DJs do.

1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Wait, mistake a lot of spins. So it was I mean,

1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Lady Night was definitely a hit.

1:00:52.120 --> 1:00:53.720
<v Speaker 2>No, if I could go, it was a Lady's Night

1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:55.960
<v Speaker 2>was a hip for sure, and if I could go,

1:00:56.000 --> 1:00:58.560
<v Speaker 2>it was the top ten record also. But you know

1:00:58.600 --> 1:01:01.080
<v Speaker 2>what would happened if I could go? I mean some

1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:03.080
<v Speaker 2>of those songs Ladies' Night, like they'd play it on

1:01:03.360 --> 1:01:05.840
<v Speaker 2>the pop stations with ZE one hundred be playing Ladies Night,

1:01:06.080 --> 1:01:07.520
<v Speaker 2>and they would cut my verse out.

1:01:07.920 --> 1:01:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Really what I was going to ask.

1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Other radio stations, even across the country, if they were

1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:16.160
<v Speaker 2>deemed the competitive market, they would cut out the first.

1:01:15.880 --> 1:01:18.600
<v Speaker 7>Because it's because it's promo. You can't promo.

1:01:19.120 --> 1:01:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who is Like if you're a radio one with Helen,

1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:24.800
<v Speaker 1>what's heard, it.

1:01:24.640 --> 1:01:27.440
<v Speaker 7>Doesn't matter if we're talking about the internets. Yeah, they

1:01:27.680 --> 1:01:30.440
<v Speaker 7>they they would cut me, cut me out. So there

1:01:30.480 --> 1:01:32.400
<v Speaker 7>was like some weirdness, but that wasn't the thing. It

1:01:32.480 --> 1:01:33.880
<v Speaker 7>was me would imposter syndrome.

1:01:33.880 --> 1:01:36.000
<v Speaker 2>And it was honestly, I feel like I stunted my

1:01:36.040 --> 1:01:40.120
<v Speaker 2>own growth because yeah, you didn't. I didn't get I

1:01:40.200 --> 1:01:43.520
<v Speaker 2>was just starting to, like sometimes I see things and

1:01:43.560 --> 1:01:45.880
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh you was about to get better

1:01:45.960 --> 1:01:48.240
<v Speaker 2>right there, and you and I stunted my own growth

1:01:48.320 --> 1:01:50.760
<v Speaker 2>because I felt like like imposter a little bit and

1:01:50.800 --> 1:01:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I didn't, And it was just easier for me to

1:01:52.920 --> 1:01:53.560
<v Speaker 2>be on the radio.

1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:56.400
<v Speaker 7>So I just kind of leaned into that take.

1:01:56.320 --> 1:02:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Your own was awesome my joint too, huh yeah, yeah,

1:02:01.200 --> 1:02:03.000
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah.

1:02:03.960 --> 1:02:04.600
<v Speaker 7>And it was always so.

1:02:04.960 --> 1:02:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you something, It was always so because

1:02:06.680 --> 1:02:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I was always so insecure about it that whenever I

1:02:09.440 --> 1:02:12.360
<v Speaker 2>would see somebody that I'll never forget I was with.

1:02:13.160 --> 1:02:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I was in LA promote and I was very insecure

1:02:16.120 --> 1:02:18.880
<v Speaker 2>about it and I saw most most Death at the time,

1:02:20.280 --> 1:02:21.480
<v Speaker 2>and I saw him from the hotel.

1:02:21.520 --> 1:02:23.760
<v Speaker 7>He was like, Yo, you killed that.

1:02:23.880 --> 1:02:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I really And I was like, so anytime an artist,

1:02:27.080 --> 1:02:29.680
<v Speaker 2>somebody that I really respected would say something to like that,

1:02:29.720 --> 1:02:31.680
<v Speaker 2>it really like it meant a lot to me, and

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<v Speaker 2>you too, And then I live one time I saw

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere he had something nice to say.

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<v Speaker 7>It meant a lot because I was so insecure, and you.

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<v Speaker 5>Did something I don't think any other radio host has

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<v Speaker 5>done like you made history.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, how I feel to be nominated for Grammy

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<v Speaker 1>and imposter syndrome totally?

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<v Speaker 2>Why am I here? Who put me here? How is

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<v Speaker 2>this possible? And it was so quick. I went from

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<v Speaker 2>never doing a song too, I'm on the second song,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ever on and I'm at the Grand I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>the MTV Awards.

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<v Speaker 1>Say where did you guys? Performed it once? Somewhere? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so what was that recording session? Like, like, did you

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<v Speaker 1>It was a lot of.

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<v Speaker 7>It was peacemeal. My first time was by myself. Was

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<v Speaker 7>there already laid, was already there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I came in and I didn't even honestly, I

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<v Speaker 2>was so I was so green that I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't sure, like where the eight bars was supposed to end,

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<v Speaker 2>Like my bars weren't. I wasn't even counting bars properly,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I came there with a whole book of rhymes

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't know how much I was gonna need.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're in the studio, is it like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>get out the studio like, no, no, are you the person?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>It was my second time ever doing it in a room,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's no. And then so but then they had

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<v Speaker 2>me come back to do ad libs. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>was there left, I was there with me. Yeah she was,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was so she was like, oh you like

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<v Speaker 2>she was just so encouraging, so sweet, and she had

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<v Speaker 2>already she was left out from TLC, like she was

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<v Speaker 2>already you know, traveled the World International Group and so

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<v Speaker 2>that was that was encouraging.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, it was eight bars. It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 7>it was I felt like, Okay, I'm quick in and out.

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<v Speaker 7>This was good.

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<v Speaker 1>I did it. I just want to know.

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<v Speaker 7>Every single girl said, I'm like, what are Kim saying?

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<v Speaker 7>When she heard it? Was she like, damn girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember what Kim said, but she made me

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<v Speaker 2>feel so because you know, we all did the video together.

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<v Speaker 7>The video, we were all there together.

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<v Speaker 2>We weren't there for the song altogether, but the video

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<v Speaker 2>we were all there together, and everybody was dope.

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<v Speaker 7>Everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>It was such a beautiful experience. I always say that,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I'm really lucky to have had that experience

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, you're in a room and Mary J.

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<v Speaker 2>Blige and Queen Latifa and Little Kim and the Brat

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<v Speaker 2>and Missy could you imagine like this?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people there.

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<v Speaker 2>Told me the TLC is there all in one room

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<v Speaker 2>video and most of our minds.

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<v Speaker 7>Y'all was already friends anyway, So yes, I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know a lot of them, but not we hadn't really

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely never worked with any of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I started rapping.

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<v Speaker 7>It was my second song.

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<v Speaker 1>I was ever run Wait, did.

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<v Speaker 6>You well, Angie? We have a special surprise tape start.

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<v Speaker 7>You have the seventy two bars to make the song.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the circumstances when you left the station,

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<v Speaker 1>but even past radio, like, at what point did you

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<v Speaker 1>ever feel at any point like okay, I'm I did this,

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<v Speaker 1>or yeah, just like you know the artists or we're

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<v Speaker 1>younger than or that sort of thing, like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand this music or that sort of thing. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you wrestle with because even as a DJ now struggle

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<v Speaker 1>well fear all right, so I did. I got ambushed

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<v Speaker 1>with a play for the kids thing, and I've you know,

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<v Speaker 1>already said like, look, I'm just trying to do like

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<v Speaker 1>throwback adults, like that sort of thing. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do no more I do adult. I wanted to write,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know who's going to be there. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's the thing where you know, I had to hand

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<v Speaker 1>out a bunch of scholarships to a bunch of like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, needy kids, and the kids love you, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I got gassed and I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll DJ for the kids.

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<v Speaker 6>And then they were looking at you like wow, was

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<v Speaker 6>you playing?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Well? When I tell you I played litl uzi

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<v Speaker 1>Vert's joint like I made a fifteen minute mix I've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen. I'm so mad that shit's just an interlude.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that song's only one minute, That song's only

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<v Speaker 1>one minute and twenty song Because even when we got

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<v Speaker 1>in for SNL. I'm like, yo, y'all realize that this

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<v Speaker 1>is just a minute in twenty five seconds, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>an interlude. So I made a fifteen minute version of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course the kids were like crazy, Yeah, Baseline

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<v Speaker 1>only his voice, drums, his voice, like, I did a

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<v Speaker 1>billion versions of it. I just stressed it. But you're

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<v Speaker 1>also a personality, yes, So was there any time where

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<v Speaker 1>you felt like a disconnect where it's sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to pivot a little bit because when I say,

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<v Speaker 2>I started and I was old all about I was

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<v Speaker 2>a rap nerd, like I knew everybody's lyrics, I knew

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's album cut, I knew, I knew you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? At some point I had to I pivoted

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit because I could not keep up.

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 2>So, but what you can do is that everybody's human.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's having an experience of creating and sharing and being vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I started talking to people a little maybe

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<v Speaker 2>less about their craft.

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<v Speaker 7>And on who they are more. And that to me

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<v Speaker 7>is timeless.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you can talk to you can talk to

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<v Speaker 2>people about who they are and what they're creating forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're a hardcore New Yorker, so I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>ask you this question. Yeah, So I think in ninety

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<v Speaker 1>seven is the first time that I heard ha by

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<v Speaker 1>Juvenile on Hot ninety seven, which to me was like

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<v Speaker 1>a pivotal That was a moment. Even when I heard

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<v Speaker 1>the radio, I was like, whoa like?

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<v Speaker 7>And then we played there them We had to hit

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<v Speaker 7>the remix this right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, David, of course, you know, David was like on

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<v Speaker 1>top of it. But when I heard it, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>having it. We had a conversation. I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>only played the remix. I'll be honest, No, you played

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<v Speaker 1>the original version first?

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<v Speaker 7>And are you sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm definitely. I remember us having a conversation. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, wait, what girls he from? Because in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind it's like New York and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>his tip if somebody played, uh somebody played for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Notori stugs by Big And you know I has

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<v Speaker 1>a notoriously long intro, right, it was like they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to test my face, like yo, listen to this, and

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<v Speaker 1>they put it on and I was like, what was this?

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<v Speaker 1>Like boone Fuck's army whatever, And so a minute goes in,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like what am I listening for? And when I

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<v Speaker 1>heard Biggie Rhyme, I was like, wait, is this allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to happen? Like it was? That was such a crucial

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<v Speaker 1>moment and then how happened? And I always wanted to know,

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<v Speaker 1>from like a New York DJ's perspective, what was the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like when suddenly it's like, oh, we gotta, we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be more national include.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think I don't know if that moment was

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<v Speaker 2>the moment, because then it was it was still niche.

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<v Speaker 1>It was still like I don't remember any down South

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<v Speaker 1>song before.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm just saying it didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>That we have to This was like a one, It's

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<v Speaker 2>a it's a splash of it.

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<v Speaker 7>It was just a little splash.

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<v Speaker 2>We we weren't fully immersed in opening up to everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I say we, I'm just saying New York

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't. I was never want to pick the music.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think that was it was, you know, that

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<v Speaker 7>was the one record that was kind of cool and

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<v Speaker 7>it was great and it.

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<v Speaker 1>But eventually there had to be a memo.

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<v Speaker 7>Where it at one point the floodgates open, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's funny because I was on aternity leave, I

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<v Speaker 2>had just had my son, and I was out from

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<v Speaker 2>and I came back to the radio. And by the

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<v Speaker 2>way I came back to the radio, my first big

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<v Speaker 2>interview was Jay Z R. Kelly after the concert.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and I remember that.

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<v Speaker 7>Get back to that.

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<v Speaker 4>But we did get back to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I listened to the interview and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it was funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Thoughts asked me a question, trying to answer the question

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<v Speaker 2>now about the answer. No, No, I came back from

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<v Speaker 2>maternity and we're playing now this is how this is

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<v Speaker 2>like we're playing laughy taffy that we were playing. I

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<v Speaker 2>wish I had a list of all the songs that

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<v Speaker 2>were out at that time, because I feel like.

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<v Speaker 7>There was like seventh how I was saying, like I

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<v Speaker 7>was out.

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<v Speaker 1>It was dope.

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<v Speaker 7>We liked it, but it was just the one song.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I came back from attorney leave, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like I came back to a different land and it

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<v Speaker 2>was cool, but it.

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<v Speaker 7>Felt I felt out. I was like, wait, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 4>All of these was the two thousands, five six, There

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<v Speaker 4>was two thousand, two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, my son was born in two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, she said, she said, laughy Tavvy. That was only

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<v Speaker 4>because Lavy Taffy was like, oh five, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Feel like, yeah, I don't think that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Around that time, I could.

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<v Speaker 5>Be you couldn't get their play because they were playing

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<v Speaker 5>Laffy Taffy and you couldn't get the airplace, so you wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I could be crediting them for a

1:11:26.920 --> 1:11:28.479
<v Speaker 2>moment that it wasn't that song.

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<v Speaker 7>Now I got that in my head though, y'alls thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>I believe it was that song. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going to look it up right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Daffy was two thousand and five? Really was five?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so then it must not have been laughing Tabby?

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<v Speaker 2>What was two thousand and one too?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean southern song. It was a bunch of oh

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<v Speaker 1>maybe was it? Like emotion was starting to become a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>a juvenile slow motion was a thing.

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<v Speaker 7>Definitely played. I was thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was about it in ice cream about it? That was nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, back that ass up. I mean, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know that I remember, yo, they did. This

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<v Speaker 1>was such a genius move where I remember once the

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<v Speaker 1>Spice Girl's label just purchased commercial time on Hot ninety

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<v Speaker 1>seven to play wanna be like they purchased dude. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the most shocking thing ever. Like you ever read

1:12:21.280 --> 1:12:23.400
<v Speaker 1>a magazine Sometimes you're like, wait, what the hell is

1:12:23.439 --> 1:12:24.880
<v Speaker 1>this doing there? And you see at the very fine

1:12:24.920 --> 1:12:28.120
<v Speaker 1>print that's out like special advertisement, like it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>part of my but try to trick you to be like, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the Spice Girls at one point purchased like two minutes

1:12:37.520 --> 1:12:41.799
<v Speaker 1>and thirty seconds of commercial time. That's crazy, no, Because

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<v Speaker 1>I would be in a car with a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people and we would have these hip hop debates or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Yo, they're playing the Spice Girls

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<v Speaker 1>on Hot ninety seven right now. But then I heard,

1:12:51.840 --> 1:12:55.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, like commercial, you know, like it.

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<v Speaker 7>Was the smart tactic at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was, but at the time where I thought it

1:12:58.720 --> 1:13:02.519
<v Speaker 1>was like them playing it for real and then but

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<v Speaker 1>I always wanted to know just how did you guys

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<v Speaker 1>feel about that paradigm shift of south friend of shit?

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<v Speaker 1>Not only that, but now you got to bring them

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<v Speaker 1>on the air and talk to them, and some of

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<v Speaker 1>them have chips on their shoulders and some.

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<v Speaker 7>Of them did.

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<v Speaker 2>But I always look at like when I when I

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<v Speaker 2>was saying how I make a pivot to like really

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<v Speaker 2>talking about people who they are and where they're from.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, that opens up a I don't know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you love about hip hop? Right even when we start,

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<v Speaker 2>even when the West Coast was first happened, it was

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<v Speaker 2>the first time I learned about West Coast living was

1:13:33.520 --> 1:13:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I never went to California. I didn't know what that

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<v Speaker 2>felt like until we started to be able to interview

1:13:37.360 --> 1:13:38.920
<v Speaker 2>artists that were from the West Coast because the West

1:13:38.920 --> 1:13:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Coast was pop But I kind of looked at the

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<v Speaker 2>South kind of blowing up like that as an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to learn about what was happening there too, because I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really I'd never really spent time in the South.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even I didn't know anything about the.

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<v Speaker 7>Lifestyle of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So when those artists started flooding in and maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't as familiar with them.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a better person than I was, exactly. I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>minded because I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I felt a little disconnected because I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>the roots of maybe where some of them came from,

1:14:04.320 --> 1:14:06.400
<v Speaker 2>which all the New York artists, I knew the roots

1:14:06.439 --> 1:14:08.799
<v Speaker 2>of that. So I felt a little disconnected in that sense.

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<v Speaker 7>But as you get to talk to people.

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<v Speaker 2>People are people, right, everybody has a story to tell,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I kind of just looked at it like that,

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<v Speaker 2>like an opportunity. I was never somebody who felt like, oh,

1:14:18.320 --> 1:14:20.800
<v Speaker 2>why is I mean to me? That's why to me,

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<v Speaker 2>we're always evolving. We should always be evolving. I was

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<v Speaker 2>always open minded to that, and some of the records

1:14:25.720 --> 1:14:27.959
<v Speaker 2>was fired, like so I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, well in retrospect now, like I then, well I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be revisioned. It's like, yeah, I always played this, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I could maybe I could be Maybe that's grown up

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<v Speaker 7>me talking.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you if you were to rewind the time machine,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there was a guess what?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? So where was the story you had about

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<v Speaker 1>that interview? It was, yeah, it was the night it

1:14:50.520 --> 1:14:53.519
<v Speaker 1>was after it was after the night with jay Z.

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<v Speaker 1>R Kelly. It was the last night that he was on.

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<v Speaker 1>He felt like somebody was trying assassinate it.

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<v Speaker 7>Were you at the concert?

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<v Speaker 1>I was at my house in North Carolina, account never

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<v Speaker 1>in R Kelly's presence ever interview. I think I heard

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<v Speaker 1>the interview.

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<v Speaker 7>Fascinating I heard the interview.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember because first it was like jay Z was on,

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<v Speaker 4>but then like I think R Kelly came. I forgot

1:15:25.200 --> 1:15:27.559
<v Speaker 4>the order, but anyway, but R Kelly he was talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the night and he was on stage, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was just oh my god, it was it was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was just YouTube and I hear this in the depths

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<v Speaker 1>of like the internet, all these tapes.

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<v Speaker 2>Just digitized them a couple of years because you know

1:15:43.240 --> 1:15:46.040
<v Speaker 2>eventually you're gonna have to have like Congress, you want

1:15:46.080 --> 1:15:50.080
<v Speaker 2>to direct my documentary, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard we were listening to it on the and

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<v Speaker 4>it was yeah, you know, I came on stage and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just I saw a guy.

1:15:57.240 --> 1:16:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying appreciation woke up like it was him.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like talking about he came on stay. I

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<v Speaker 4>guess he said it was like whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember. He was talking about how he got

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<v Speaker 1>sprayed with Mason ship Mason I was on tour O

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<v Speaker 1>and okay, I mean on the reason because yeah, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually I was just it was my I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 4>been on stage I rock, you know for so many years.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, in my Lightning.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, and I was like my light my lightning and

1:16:46.479 --> 1:16:48.760
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, he's saying lighting man, but like

1:16:48.840 --> 1:16:54.240
<v Speaker 4>it sounded like but dude, it was just it was.

1:16:53.360 --> 1:16:58.040
<v Speaker 1>It sounded like he sounded bad, shipp insane. It was crazy.

1:16:58.240 --> 1:16:59.080
<v Speaker 1>It was the crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>It wasn't even my shift.

1:17:00.520 --> 1:17:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the radio station from the show because

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<v Speaker 2>I was at the show when the whole thing unraveled.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was getting my parking lot get in

1:17:08.479 --> 1:17:10.320
<v Speaker 2>my car and Mike Michael Kais had called me.

1:17:10.360 --> 1:17:11.840
<v Speaker 7>It was like Jay wants to get.

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<v Speaker 1>On the radio.

1:17:12.439 --> 1:17:14.280
<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, well he can come by my

1:17:14.320 --> 1:17:16.439
<v Speaker 2>show tomorrow afternoon. He was like, no, no, no, he

1:17:16.520 --> 1:17:17.120
<v Speaker 2>wants to go on.

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<v Speaker 7>The radio right now and we'll only talk to you,

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<v Speaker 7>and he wants to.

1:17:19.840 --> 1:17:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had to call the program take off. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was Big Dennis was on at that time.

1:17:24.200 --> 1:17:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember who was on.

1:17:24.880 --> 1:17:26.519
<v Speaker 7>But they had to get off so I could get

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<v Speaker 7>on because.

1:17:28.200 --> 1:17:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Like people do some sort of way like he will

1:17:30.080 --> 1:17:31.960
<v Speaker 1>only talk to else.

1:17:32.160 --> 1:17:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so I went up there and I was like, Okay.

1:17:35.120 --> 1:17:36.720
<v Speaker 2>The funny thing is I was at the parking lot,

1:17:36.800 --> 1:17:38.600
<v Speaker 2>but right outside of Manster Square Garden. It was like

1:17:38.640 --> 1:17:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I was waiting in line because I didn't want to

1:17:40.640 --> 1:17:42.639
<v Speaker 2>be like a jerk and like run to the front.

1:17:42.640 --> 1:17:44.040
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like waiting in line for my car. But

1:17:44.080 --> 1:17:45.640
<v Speaker 2>then when I got the call from Kaias, I was like,

1:17:46.600 --> 1:17:48.280
<v Speaker 2>jay Z wants to get on the radio. They were like,

1:17:48.360 --> 1:17:51.880
<v Speaker 2>let her go, let her go, because only in the

1:17:51.920 --> 1:17:53.519
<v Speaker 2>line had just come out the concert.

1:17:53.840 --> 1:17:56.880
<v Speaker 1>They knew what happened. Jay Z's about to get on

1:17:56.920 --> 1:17:57.240
<v Speaker 1>the radio.

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<v Speaker 7>Let edg you get her car.

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<v Speaker 1>So they let me go. What happened and don't know like, oh, well,

1:18:05.120 --> 1:18:09.120
<v Speaker 1>a concert went down, both worlds.

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<v Speaker 7>In the best of both worlds.

1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:11.960
<v Speaker 1>And then the lights go out.

1:18:12.120 --> 1:18:13.000
<v Speaker 7>Have it consued?

1:18:13.520 --> 1:18:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Allegedly, Peppers break R Kelly backstage and then and then R.

1:18:18.080 --> 1:18:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Kelly left and Jay Jay had to finish the rest

1:18:20.680 --> 1:18:23.599
<v Speaker 2>of the show at Madison Square Garden by himself, and

1:18:23.640 --> 1:18:24.560
<v Speaker 2>he called.

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<v Speaker 7>On people quickly to take Mary.

1:18:27.160 --> 1:18:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Mary came out, Usher came out. People kind of came

1:18:30.160 --> 1:18:31.000
<v Speaker 2>to rescue Jay.

1:18:31.200 --> 1:18:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Lenny told me, okay, so Lenny rescue Jay. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

1:18:34.560 --> 1:18:35.679
<v Speaker 7>He needed a show.

1:18:35.800 --> 1:18:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I remember Kodak. Lenny actually said that he had to

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<v Speaker 1>run up and down the aisles and see like people, Yeah, literally,

1:18:41.920 --> 1:18:43.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, come up and do your joint or whatever.

1:18:43.600 --> 1:18:44.559
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, to pack us.

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<v Speaker 2>He was playing Usher songs from his phone and then

1:18:47.240 --> 1:18:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Usher came and performed, and because peck Us worked at

1:18:50.520 --> 1:18:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Arista at the time, right or right?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? Is that right Arista?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm so bad at like those little and you're

1:18:56.720 --> 1:18:59.400
<v Speaker 2>telling me that, like, so the whole So everybody in

1:18:59.400 --> 1:19:02.400
<v Speaker 2>the concert knew what was happening. So then when we left,

1:19:02.400 --> 1:19:03.959
<v Speaker 2>we were like, yo, that was crazy.

1:19:04.040 --> 1:19:05.160
<v Speaker 7>What happened? We don't know.

1:19:05.800 --> 1:19:08.720
<v Speaker 2>And then from there it was Jay wants to go

1:19:08.720 --> 1:19:10.679
<v Speaker 2>on the radio and talk about it. So now anybody

1:19:10.720 --> 1:19:12.320
<v Speaker 2>who was at the concert is listening. And then I

1:19:12.320 --> 1:19:15.080
<v Speaker 2>don't know how everybody would hear it because everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>A somebody posted at the time. Honestly, I feel like

1:19:20.400 --> 1:19:23.320
<v Speaker 4>somebody posted it okay player, right no, no, no, no, no,

1:19:26.479 --> 1:19:27.880
<v Speaker 4>so yeah, somebody.

1:19:27.520 --> 1:19:29.519
<v Speaker 7>From I never knew how everybody heard it.

1:19:29.600 --> 1:19:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, somebody up in New York.

1:19:31.040 --> 1:19:33.880
<v Speaker 4>And I can't remember what who it was or you

1:19:33.920 --> 1:19:37.400
<v Speaker 4>know what the okay player was, but somebody in New York.

1:19:37.439 --> 1:19:39.280
<v Speaker 4>It might have been a thirty thirty but I can't

1:19:39.280 --> 1:19:44.599
<v Speaker 4>remember it. Take somehow had taken the stream or had

1:19:44.880 --> 1:19:48.920
<v Speaker 4>recorded you on the radio, and then like they posted

1:19:48.920 --> 1:19:50.559
<v Speaker 4>a link for us to check on okay player, and

1:19:50.600 --> 1:19:51.960
<v Speaker 4>so that was how we heard the interview.

1:19:52.160 --> 1:19:54.559
<v Speaker 7>So Jay cames up to tell his what happened.

1:19:54.560 --> 1:19:56.320
<v Speaker 2>He was so frustrated and he was like, look, you

1:19:56.360 --> 1:19:58.000
<v Speaker 2>know this guy, we've had problems.

1:19:58.640 --> 1:20:02.280
<v Speaker 1>We called it. This guy like discussed. He was very.

1:20:02.080 --> 1:20:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Frustrated, and then he was We got a call from

1:20:05.880 --> 1:20:07.960
<v Speaker 2>from Tracy was programm director at the time. She was like, listen,

1:20:08.040 --> 1:20:09.519
<v Speaker 2>we have to be fair. R Kelly called he wants

1:20:09.520 --> 1:20:11.040
<v Speaker 2>to come up and tell his side of the story too.

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<v Speaker 7>The middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>So I say, I tell Jay R Kelly wants to

1:20:16.240 --> 1:20:17.800
<v Speaker 2>come up, because like, that's fine, you could talk to him.

1:20:17.800 --> 1:20:21.080
<v Speaker 7>I'm almost done anyway, I'm about to leave. Jay leaves.

1:20:21.479 --> 1:20:24.479
<v Speaker 2>R Kelly shows up five ten minutes later, I could

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<v Speaker 2>be it could have been twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

1:20:26.080 --> 1:20:28.439
<v Speaker 7>It was a few minutes later. It's all live on

1:20:28.479 --> 1:20:29.160
<v Speaker 7>the radio.

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<v Speaker 4>A moment in my show and his eyes I say,

1:20:31.880 --> 1:20:37.200
<v Speaker 4>calling Tyrone and the audience say, but but you wouldn't

1:20:37.200 --> 1:20:37.960
<v Speaker 4>know that you're not a fan.

1:20:39.800 --> 1:20:43.240
<v Speaker 1>This is on the air, like we'll listen, yo yo

1:20:43.320 --> 1:20:45.040
<v Speaker 1>bro right. In fact, it was I remember this now.

1:20:45.040 --> 1:20:45.720
<v Speaker 1>It was I was over.

1:20:45.880 --> 1:20:49.400
<v Speaker 4>I went to ninth brid ninth. I feel like I

1:20:49.439 --> 1:20:51.360
<v Speaker 4>don't know what's christis with maybe a homie Mike.

1:20:51.280 --> 1:20:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Bird was with it. But anyway, crib and we're listening.

1:20:54.280 --> 1:20:58.360
<v Speaker 4>I had no idea, like like what I don't.

1:20:58.240 --> 1:21:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I do know that after that, people will come up

1:21:00.080 --> 1:21:01.479
<v Speaker 2>to me from different places and tell me. And I

1:21:01.479 --> 1:21:04.479
<v Speaker 2>don't always curious how did everybody because it wasn't that.

1:21:04.520 --> 1:21:05.360
<v Speaker 7>Wasn't like you know what I mean.

1:21:05.400 --> 1:21:10.280
<v Speaker 1>So player was the social media. It was like we

1:21:10.120 --> 1:21:12.599
<v Speaker 1>we are definitely black Twitter, yeah for sure, like we

1:21:12.680 --> 1:21:14.680
<v Speaker 1>started black Twitter. Yeah.

1:21:14.720 --> 1:21:17.000
<v Speaker 2>So then so then that happened and R Kelly showed

1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:19.040
<v Speaker 2>up and his eyes were all red from the pepper sprays.

1:21:19.040 --> 1:21:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Still it just come from.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he I don't I could be wrong,

1:21:24.560 --> 1:21:25.960
<v Speaker 2>but I think he went to the hospital first for

1:21:26.040 --> 1:21:27.200
<v Speaker 2>them to like look at his eyes, and then he

1:21:27.240 --> 1:21:27.880
<v Speaker 2>came to the station.

1:21:28.000 --> 1:21:29.200
<v Speaker 7>And so this was the middle of the night. Now

1:21:29.200 --> 1:21:30.640
<v Speaker 7>I'm interview and R Kelly in the middle of the night.

1:21:30.680 --> 1:21:33.000
<v Speaker 7>It was it was nuts and remind us I'm sorry

1:21:33.000 --> 1:21:34.000
<v Speaker 7>because mirror wasn't there.

1:21:34.000 --> 1:21:39.400
<v Speaker 5>He doesn't know what what R Kelly said.

1:21:39.960 --> 1:21:42.080
<v Speaker 1>He I mean, listen, I just remember he was. R

1:21:42.200 --> 1:21:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Kelly was very he.

1:21:43.200 --> 1:21:45.759
<v Speaker 7>Said somebody was in the crowd who had a gun.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say, Angie, you were always professional, but like

1:21:49.680 --> 1:21:52.719
<v Speaker 4>you handled that interview really well because we were literally

1:21:52.760 --> 1:21:54.960
<v Speaker 4>on the other side listens like yo, this nigga pre

1:21:55.040 --> 1:21:58.080
<v Speaker 4>Gail King like yo, We were like, yo, he sounds crazy,

1:21:58.120 --> 1:21:59.559
<v Speaker 4>but yeah he was somebody you talked about.

1:21:59.560 --> 1:22:04.200
<v Speaker 1>You saw some with a gun and yeah it was was.

1:22:05.160 --> 1:22:07.400
<v Speaker 2>J side of the story was he was uncomfortable because

1:22:07.479 --> 1:22:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Jay was killing it every night and R Kelly was

1:22:09.800 --> 1:22:11.200
<v Speaker 2>in his feeling, so he wanted to leave.

1:22:11.240 --> 1:22:13.360
<v Speaker 7>He just wanted to leave. He didn't want to finish.

1:22:13.680 --> 1:22:14.639
<v Speaker 7>That was Jay's story.

1:22:14.800 --> 1:22:16.519
<v Speaker 2>R Kelly's story was he wanted to leave because it

1:22:16.600 --> 1:22:19.080
<v Speaker 2>felt he was threatened because somebody was in the audience

1:22:19.080 --> 1:22:20.960
<v Speaker 2>with a gun and he saw it from the stage

1:22:21.400 --> 1:22:22.400
<v Speaker 2>and he wanted to leave.

1:22:23.880 --> 1:22:26.920
<v Speaker 1>But he said it like R Kelly, not out there, okay,

1:22:27.760 --> 1:22:32.160
<v Speaker 1>freaking I saw. I'm not saying what it was like.

1:22:32.200 --> 1:22:34.000
<v Speaker 4>I was like, Yo, you saw somebody and you asked

1:22:34.000 --> 1:22:35.519
<v Speaker 4>you was like, so he had a gun. I'm not

1:22:35.560 --> 1:22:37.840
<v Speaker 4>saying what he had or what he didn't have. I'm

1:22:37.840 --> 1:22:40.040
<v Speaker 4>saying I saw a guy. I saw a guy.

1:22:40.680 --> 1:22:43.400
<v Speaker 1>It was. It was very much like the the to

1:22:43.800 --> 1:22:45.439
<v Speaker 1>like when you say teenage how we talk.

1:22:45.720 --> 1:22:47.920
<v Speaker 4>It was the precursor to that like it was you

1:22:47.960 --> 1:22:51.720
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. But yeah, but he saw a guy.

1:22:52.000 --> 1:22:53.639
<v Speaker 2>The wild thing is, I would love to know put

1:22:53.640 --> 1:22:55.760
<v Speaker 2>this in the air. Somebody was in the room with R.

1:22:55.840 --> 1:22:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Kelly that night, and and this is early. I didn't

1:22:58.880 --> 1:23:02.719
<v Speaker 2>use the video tape my interviews back then, never so, but.

1:23:02.720 --> 1:23:05.400
<v Speaker 7>Somebody was with R. Kelly who had like a big

1:23:05.439 --> 1:23:06.320
<v Speaker 7>old camcorder.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised.

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<v Speaker 7>Somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, hey guys, thanks for having me. It's really fun

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<v Speaker 2>to be here on the podcast. My point is that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a video probably somewhere that interview. Yeah, somewhere, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>has it. Somewhere in somebody's basement. There's a video of

1:23:27.400 --> 1:23:30.920
<v Speaker 2>that interview.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great. Yeah, thanks, That's probably most legendary interview.

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<v Speaker 7>There's other ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Was smoking and no one.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm smoking and saying that wasn't her. It's been so

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<v Speaker 5>many I'm with her.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just saying it just for me. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the one for me because you.

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<v Speaker 7>Have how about the locks and the locks fighting for.

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<v Speaker 2>The publishing that happened on my show.

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<v Speaker 7>And then puff the next day with receipts and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Still understand this was very much.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I signed like before we like our little

1:24:15.680 --> 1:24:17.920
<v Speaker 4>brothers start going and stuff. So I would just be

1:24:18.120 --> 1:24:20.720
<v Speaker 4>like hot ninety seven and all that. That would just

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<v Speaker 4>be our window into kind of what New York was,

1:24:25.040 --> 1:24:27.519
<v Speaker 4>and we was just I remember me just being at

1:24:27.520 --> 1:24:29.320
<v Speaker 4>home in the South, just looking like yo, all these

1:24:29.360 --> 1:24:33.559
<v Speaker 4>niggas are crazy, Like, no, I don't need to do this.

1:24:34.000 --> 1:24:35.800
<v Speaker 1>So I was just come when I came to New York.

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<v Speaker 4>I just come to New York, do my shows whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>like see my people whatever, get my money, and I

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<v Speaker 4>leave because I'm just like, dude, this I listened to

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<v Speaker 4>I list.

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<v Speaker 1>None of these niggas sound happy.

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<v Speaker 7>So you have I was waiting for your No.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I have a question about since we're talking about

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<v Speaker 8>your archives and you said your digitized them, do you

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<v Speaker 8>of any kind of plan of how to release those somehow.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm trying to figure that out. I have I have

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<v Speaker 7>so many that I don't really know.

1:25:07.439 --> 1:25:12.360
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's damn. It's also like, no, it's

1:25:12.400 --> 1:25:15.360
<v Speaker 2>not about waiting for the offer. I really because I

1:25:15.400 --> 1:25:16.960
<v Speaker 2>need a lot of money on the table. My whole career,

1:25:16.960 --> 1:25:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I've left a lot of money on the table. I

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<v Speaker 2>really operate from a place where I want to until

1:25:22.200 --> 1:25:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I can figure out a way to do it. That is,

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<v Speaker 2>it honors it and it's interesting and it's different. It's

1:25:27.200 --> 1:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>dope like I do it doesn't need to I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to do something just to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I assure you as as a person that works in

1:25:34.400 --> 1:25:38.400
<v Speaker 1>that world. To you now, it's just like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>got my radio shows, and ten years it'll be like

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<v Speaker 1>oh back in the day, I got no no no.

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<v Speaker 1>But I swear to God, like your Oscar future lot

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<v Speaker 1>like forty years from now, like when you when you're

1:25:51.560 --> 1:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>seventy seventy five whatever, that will be like a piece

1:25:56.360 --> 1:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>of history that if told right, where did that come from?

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<v Speaker 6>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>I got to pass the rasp on.

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<v Speaker 6>Totally clips of the heart.

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<v Speaker 1>No, if if told correctly, like please, I beg of you,

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<v Speaker 1>because even now I will at what point were you

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<v Speaker 1>fine with your radio journey? And how hard was it

1:26:30.600 --> 1:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>to pivot into TV personality and more specifically with up

1:26:35.760 --> 1:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>closing person like with.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the thing that's kept me in radio

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<v Speaker 2>so long is that I always, at different points in

1:26:43.080 --> 1:26:45.680
<v Speaker 2>my career, played around something else just to keep the

1:26:45.720 --> 1:26:48.519
<v Speaker 2>creative juices going, whether it was music or whether it

1:26:48.600 --> 1:26:52.479
<v Speaker 2>was you know, little cameos and movies or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote a book.

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<v Speaker 7>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I always the radio became almost like just

1:26:58.160 --> 1:27:00.799
<v Speaker 2>part of who I was, and it was just not easy,

1:27:00.840 --> 1:27:03.360
<v Speaker 2>but it's just it's just a fabric of what I do.

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<v Speaker 7>But I needed to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Creatively, you know, challenged, and so that's kind of why

1:27:09.320 --> 1:27:11.479
<v Speaker 2>I would venture off and do different things here and there.

1:27:11.560 --> 1:27:16.519
<v Speaker 1>And in your vision board or just in your life,

1:27:16.560 --> 1:27:24.040
<v Speaker 1>do you ever foresee you becoming the station owner or

1:27:24.640 --> 1:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>he always wants to do that.

1:27:25.680 --> 1:27:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't have any desire to.

1:27:32.080 --> 1:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>It's not my heart.

1:27:33.920 --> 1:27:36.320
<v Speaker 7>It's not where my heart is. My heart is in storytelling.

1:27:36.640 --> 1:27:39.400
<v Speaker 2>My heart is not running a business to help a

1:27:39.479 --> 1:27:42.439
<v Speaker 2>media company, like it's not where my heart is. My

1:27:42.479 --> 1:27:45.320
<v Speaker 2>heart is in storytelling. And so whether it be during

1:27:45.320 --> 1:27:47.080
<v Speaker 2>an interview on the radio or just getting on the

1:27:47.120 --> 1:27:47.959
<v Speaker 2>radio and talking.

1:27:47.720 --> 1:27:49.760
<v Speaker 7>About something that I feel like is storytelling or.

1:27:49.640 --> 1:27:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Creating or writing or like writing is something writing for

1:27:53.800 --> 1:27:56.960
<v Speaker 2>me is probably like what like for you, like how

1:27:57.000 --> 1:27:58.440
<v Speaker 2>you kind of finally.

1:27:58.040 --> 1:28:00.600
<v Speaker 7>Have got com about it?

1:28:00.600 --> 1:28:02.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, I wrote that book, and I always looked

1:28:02.360 --> 1:28:03.880
<v Speaker 2>for other people to help me because I thought I

1:28:03.920 --> 1:28:06.680
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a writer enough. And then as I would go

1:28:06.840 --> 1:28:09.800
<v Speaker 2>try to hire people, I realized, actually I could. I'm

1:28:09.840 --> 1:28:12.519
<v Speaker 2>better at this part of the story than me.

1:28:12.960 --> 1:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>And so what was the hardest part about writing the

1:28:16.000 --> 1:28:16.400
<v Speaker 1>book for you?

1:28:17.400 --> 1:28:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, all of it, because writing all of those pages,

1:28:20.080 --> 1:28:23.160
<v Speaker 2>and it took me like years to do that. And

1:28:23.200 --> 1:28:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I did have some help, you know, they brought I

1:28:25.360 --> 1:28:29.080
<v Speaker 2>learned a lot about storytelling from this woman named mem Reavis.

1:28:29.560 --> 1:28:31.280
<v Speaker 2>But she also taught me that I was actually a

1:28:31.280 --> 1:28:34.519
<v Speaker 2>great writer. She gave me that confidence. So my book

1:28:34.560 --> 1:28:35.360
<v Speaker 2>was pretty much done.

1:28:35.439 --> 1:28:38.240
<v Speaker 7>See, it's crazy that you didn't realize that you're the combination.

1:28:39.120 --> 1:28:40.519
<v Speaker 7>It's different. It's different.

1:28:40.640 --> 1:28:43.840
<v Speaker 2>And thinking you could write a few bars versus writing

1:28:43.840 --> 1:28:46.519
<v Speaker 2>a story and writing like or.

1:28:46.479 --> 1:28:48.720
<v Speaker 5>Being a storyteller. Is what I'm saying, is saying that

1:28:48.800 --> 1:28:51.720
<v Speaker 5>you are a storyteller. And I think, isn't that. So

1:28:51.720 --> 1:28:53.920
<v Speaker 5>here's two examples. So number one, the book I tried

1:28:53.960 --> 1:28:55.400
<v Speaker 5>to get all these writers, I didn't like it. I

1:28:55.520 --> 1:28:57.400
<v Speaker 5>do it myself, but I had I still didn't have

1:28:57.520 --> 1:28:59.960
<v Speaker 5>I still didn't feel it books Best New York Times

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<v Speaker 5>be so I still feel it was.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you're okay, thank you, Oh thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Something? Can I get that something?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Jeez, No, but then I probably felt like you after

1:29:10.880 --> 1:29:13.200
<v Speaker 2>you ask, I still don't feel like a real writer.

1:29:13.240 --> 1:29:15.280
<v Speaker 7>I feel like, oh, that was my memoir. Of course,

1:29:15.320 --> 1:29:16.520
<v Speaker 7>that was easy.

1:29:16.600 --> 1:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>And then I say, I have this other idea, and

1:29:19.800 --> 1:29:21.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to get a script done, and I go

1:29:21.520 --> 1:29:24.320
<v Speaker 2>to mad people and I go to stuff and I

1:29:24.400 --> 1:29:26.400
<v Speaker 2>and so I start writing it by myself during COVID

1:29:26.400 --> 1:29:28.599
<v Speaker 2>because I'm home, and why not, who cares?

1:29:28.640 --> 1:29:31.640
<v Speaker 7>I wrote like two scripts while I started.

1:29:31.360 --> 1:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>During COVID, and so now I'm well, both of them

1:29:37.240 --> 1:29:41.800
<v Speaker 2>are done. One of them needs a little tweaking. Well,

1:29:41.840 --> 1:29:44.400
<v Speaker 2>it's not about me, no, but it is from my lens.

1:29:44.840 --> 1:29:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Anything I do is gonna be from my lens because

1:29:47.160 --> 1:29:50.080
<v Speaker 2>it is what it is, right. But you know, I'm

1:29:50.080 --> 1:29:52.000
<v Speaker 2>starting to feel I'm starting to get in my bag

1:29:52.000 --> 1:29:55.360
<v Speaker 2>with it. I'm starting to feel like confident about my

1:29:55.439 --> 1:29:58.800
<v Speaker 2>storytelling ability as a writer and also as a creator.

1:30:00.080 --> 1:30:01.720
<v Speaker 2>And so I think it's gonna be interesting to see

1:30:01.720 --> 1:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>where the next couple of years bring me. I've never

1:30:04.040 --> 1:30:11.160
<v Speaker 2>operated with this level of confidence or just clarity.

1:30:09.240 --> 1:30:10.040
<v Speaker 7>Through my whole career.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was asking about the hard parts of writing

1:30:11.880 --> 1:30:13.720
<v Speaker 4>the book, I meant more so emotionally, like were there

1:30:13.760 --> 1:30:15.760
<v Speaker 4>any parts of your life that were hard.

1:30:15.840 --> 1:30:17.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeah's scary to tell your whole story.

1:30:17.560 --> 1:30:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Scary to say your father was on drugs and you

1:30:19.920 --> 1:30:22.400
<v Speaker 2>ain't seen him since you're ten, or you dated this

1:30:22.439 --> 1:30:24.439
<v Speaker 2>person and that was terrible for you and your heart broke.

1:30:24.439 --> 1:30:28.320
<v Speaker 2>It's scary to tell family things and personal things.

1:30:28.479 --> 1:30:29.240
<v Speaker 7>But I did.

1:30:29.360 --> 1:30:32.360
<v Speaker 2>I wrote everything down, and I told myself when it's over,

1:30:33.240 --> 1:30:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I'll take out.

1:30:33.920 --> 1:30:36.760
<v Speaker 7>Anything that I don't want to share. But once you

1:30:36.800 --> 1:30:39.240
<v Speaker 7>get it all out, you realize it's just my story.

1:30:39.280 --> 1:30:39.759
<v Speaker 7>It's okay.

1:30:40.680 --> 1:30:42.519
<v Speaker 2>It's so scary to share, you know what I mean.

1:30:42.560 --> 1:30:44.400
<v Speaker 2>But then once this hour, you feel good. I don't know,

1:30:44.439 --> 1:30:47.200
<v Speaker 2>it's just you could be yourself more in a weird way.

1:30:47.280 --> 1:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Does your son see you as like mom? Or does

1:30:49.800 --> 1:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>he like know the lineage of the nah? He does?

1:30:53.000 --> 1:30:55.640
<v Speaker 7>He respects it. He definitely respects it. I think he

1:30:55.880 --> 1:30:56.280
<v Speaker 7>likes to.

1:30:56.240 --> 1:31:04.680
<v Speaker 2>See the way people kind of react entertainment. No, my

1:31:04.760 --> 1:31:07.160
<v Speaker 2>son plays ball, he plays. He wants to be in

1:31:07.160 --> 1:31:09.879
<v Speaker 2>sports business. He's studying sports management, sports business.

1:31:10.400 --> 1:31:11.280
<v Speaker 7>He's a good kid.

1:31:11.880 --> 1:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I have.

1:31:13.400 --> 1:31:15.479
<v Speaker 7>He's about to be twenty and June he'll be twenty. Yeah,

1:31:15.560 --> 1:31:19.800
<v Speaker 7>he's he's a big boy. Remember is like, yeah, that's

1:31:19.800 --> 1:31:20.720
<v Speaker 7>what made me think of that.

1:31:21.840 --> 1:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm like, I knew you when you're playing chess

1:31:24.160 --> 1:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>at the age of six, and now you might be

1:31:26.439 --> 1:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>managing me and like a couple.

1:31:28.840 --> 1:31:30.040
<v Speaker 7>We remember when Angel's pregnant.

1:31:30.040 --> 1:31:32.080
<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm like, so I have him, So he's

1:31:32.080 --> 1:31:34.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty and then I have a bonus, my bonus son

1:31:34.400 --> 1:31:38.680
<v Speaker 2>who lives with me. He's seventeen Christian. He's doing amazing too.

1:31:38.800 --> 1:31:41.640
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know they. I think that they like,

1:31:42.080 --> 1:31:44.519
<v Speaker 2>I think that they respect my history and my career,

1:31:45.439 --> 1:31:48.120
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think neither one of them are like

1:31:49.240 --> 1:31:52.559
<v Speaker 2>really they don't care about celebrity doesn't really impress them much.

1:31:52.840 --> 1:31:54.479
<v Speaker 1>I love that about gen Z.

1:31:55.439 --> 1:31:57.840
<v Speaker 2>They're not like, yeah, they like people who they just

1:31:58.000 --> 1:32:00.880
<v Speaker 2>like people, but they're not really you know, like, hey,

1:32:00.920 --> 1:32:02.160
<v Speaker 2>you want to go over to such and such a

1:32:02.200 --> 1:32:06.080
<v Speaker 2>self man, No, I'm okay, rather be over here doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>So and you're sure that you don't want to just

1:32:09.560 --> 1:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>own the radio station?

1:32:11.760 --> 1:32:14.080
<v Speaker 7>Why would I want to do that in twenty twenty three?

1:32:14.160 --> 1:32:15.640
<v Speaker 7>Like what why would I want to?

1:32:16.560 --> 1:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Wait?

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<v Speaker 7>Wait, wait, thank you people, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A listen to me.

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<v Speaker 7>How many summers do we have left?

1:32:24.320 --> 1:32:24.559
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1:32:24.760 --> 1:32:25.000
<v Speaker 6>Right?

1:32:25.120 --> 1:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>The sky's the limit.

1:32:26.400 --> 1:32:30.679
<v Speaker 2>No, no, you're not. Most people don't live to two hundred, right,

1:32:30.720 --> 1:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>so you have a limited amount of summers left here.

1:32:33.040 --> 1:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and this.

1:32:34.240 --> 1:32:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Life and this body stress and is being a radio

1:32:38.400 --> 1:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>station owner? How I want to live out the next

1:32:42.080 --> 1:32:43.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty thirty, forty whatever.

1:32:43.439 --> 1:32:44.320
<v Speaker 7>I'm lucky enough to.

1:32:44.280 --> 1:32:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Get the radio station owner. But I would think that.

1:32:48.240 --> 1:32:50.680
<v Speaker 2>You can't do that part time. That's your life, that

1:32:50.720 --> 1:32:53.320
<v Speaker 2>becomes your life. Then that's not I'm not willing to

1:32:53.320 --> 1:32:54.280
<v Speaker 2>do that with my life.

1:32:54.360 --> 1:32:56.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to figure out a way to rubbert, like

1:32:56.520 --> 1:32:59.719
<v Speaker 1>to stop micromanaging. Like I'm in the game now where

1:32:59.760 --> 1:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>like establishing like a production breaking mortar thing, and.

1:33:05.160 --> 1:33:06.160
<v Speaker 7>I haven't learned how to do that.

1:33:06.240 --> 1:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Eventually I'll get to a place where I can rubber

1:33:10.160 --> 1:33:14.320
<v Speaker 1>stamp ship and micro Now. Yeah, Tika and I are

1:33:14.360 --> 1:33:19.559
<v Speaker 1>like micromanaging everything. But one day I can build an

1:33:19.560 --> 1:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>empire and let it run by itself, and then I

1:33:21.880 --> 1:33:24.559
<v Speaker 1>could truly do nothing. When is that gonna happen? Right?

1:33:26.400 --> 1:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not like literally.

1:33:28.800 --> 1:33:30.680
<v Speaker 7>Far I don't know that.

1:33:31.920 --> 1:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>It's your fifties, trust me, I got this. What do

1:33:41.680 --> 1:33:43.519
<v Speaker 1>you think? I'm just talking in circles on the show.

1:33:44.439 --> 1:33:46.759
<v Speaker 2>But don't you think it's you that has the gift?

1:33:47.040 --> 1:33:50.400
<v Speaker 2>That's that is the nuances of that, isn't it you?

1:33:50.720 --> 1:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to walk away. So what I'm trying

1:33:53.320 --> 1:33:55.479
<v Speaker 1>to do is figure out a way to keep this

1:33:55.640 --> 1:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>running and I don't have to be here. Luck with that.

1:34:01.840 --> 1:34:03.080
<v Speaker 7>I hope you do. I wish you well.

1:34:03.240 --> 1:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I just don't mother other once family, and to be president.

1:34:06.800 --> 1:34:08.320
<v Speaker 7>You might have to let go of some things to

1:34:08.360 --> 1:34:09.120
<v Speaker 7>have that balance.

1:34:09.560 --> 1:34:14.559
<v Speaker 1>There is an exit plan because you cannot survive in

1:34:14.640 --> 1:34:16.720
<v Speaker 1>the level of stress that I'm living in now. I'm

1:34:17.160 --> 1:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking this on now so that when I am

1:34:20.320 --> 1:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>sixties seventy eighty ninety, I don't have to do this anymore.

1:34:24.320 --> 1:34:26.040
<v Speaker 7>And there's an operation running. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm determined to be the first black professional that

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<v Speaker 1>actually retired. You remember, like Jay was like, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm retired after my second album or whatever, like the

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<v Speaker 1>don't entire me. I mean, I'm not gonna retire.

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<v Speaker 7>Killing it over here, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you, Thank you, guys.

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<v Speaker 7>This is fun.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our first real real conversation as you're a coerson.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean we've had niceties and pleasantry. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been on your show. But it's also like to promote

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<v Speaker 1>my product. But I feel like I got.

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<v Speaker 6>To know you bro, your team of Supreme over here

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<v Speaker 6>is comatose.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get invited to a game night because you

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<v Speaker 2>invited me one time and I couldn't go. And I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like because I couldn't go that one time, I

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<v Speaker 2>have never been invited again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I will invite you the game night.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm a little aggressive. But I've gotten better as

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<v Speaker 2>I've gotten older. I know how to I know how

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<v Speaker 2>to behave well.

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<v Speaker 1>I also I don't play the game anymore because I

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<v Speaker 1>had to host it.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh that's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's more fun because if I'm in the game

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<v Speaker 1>games you play? Sorry, what do we play? Well, A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people in their their pandemic pivot haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>a game. So I have like just a room full

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<v Speaker 1>of like unused games that they want my opinion, like questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I.

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<v Speaker 2>You know I have on my bucket list in life?

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<v Speaker 2>What is to host the game show?

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<v Speaker 1>That? Really? I feel you do you know how much fun?

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<v Speaker 7>Because that to me will be so much fun every.

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<v Speaker 1>To be like I got you you got one for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you did you watch?

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<v Speaker 7>First of all, I'm offended that was.

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<v Speaker 4>A bold ask questions as that game show, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that show has been on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, she said, you don't know what motherfucker y. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I want from Popeye exactly, come on exactly, buddy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thank you so much for going on the

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<v Speaker 1>show on behalf of Sugar Steve and PEPERI. Did he

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<v Speaker 1>go out for more cigarettes?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, he'll come back.

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<v Speaker 6>He's unpaid. How can you how could you ask for why?

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<v Speaker 1>Three? Frantico and uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, I apologize, yes as a fellow, like hearing

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<v Speaker 4>did you talk about the way you move and the

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<v Speaker 4>way you choose, like it really resonates with me so

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<v Speaker 4>like much expecting love just for what you do, for

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<v Speaker 4>the way you're doing, like staying true to yourself and me,

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<v Speaker 4>and like, nah, I don't want to do that. That

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<v Speaker 4>ain't for you know, you said, I turned down a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of money in.

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<v Speaker 2>This game to say, but also proud to say, all right, we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna end the way that we started, and we're all

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<v Speaker 1>gonna all live in our integrity. We're not gonna self sabotage,

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<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna dismiss our dreams. How are we gonna breathe?

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<v Speaker 7>How are we gonna end breathing?

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<v Speaker 1>Or we've been breathing. Actually, I'm cold as ship. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get out of this room myself. Yes, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh Supreme, We'll see all next week. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>We's love.

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